DAWSON'S CREEK Writers Room Reunion // ATX TV Festival // Season 4
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2015
- ATX's first writers' room reunion, featuring some of TV's most prolific and influential creative forces as they discuss the inner workings and emotions of the writers' room, and what they learned during their time spent working on one of the most iconic teen dramas of our time. #DawsonsCreek
Panelists: Kevin Williamson, Paul Stupin, Rob Thomas, Jenny Bicks, Gina Fattore, and Anna Fricke
Moderator: Julie Plec
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Kevin Wiliamson is one of the kindest men in Hollywood. Years ago I sent him fan mail on Myspace, never expecting to hear anything back. He responded the very next day, thanking me for writing him. He had looked at my profile and saw I was a fan of VC Andrews and Flowers in the Attic. He told me he met her at a bookstore when she was doing a signing. He then gave me the same advice she gave him, which was," You say you want to be a writer? Then write." I took his advice and have since then published 2 books, working on my third.
What are your books about? Where can they be found?
Aww Kevin Williamson is amazing
Joey and Pacey ALL DAY LONG! Thank you, Kevin!!
I WISH SOMEONE ASKED WHY JOEY WENT BACK TO EDDIE AND SAID IT DIDNT FEEL RIGHT TO BE WITH PACEY
Yes Yes Yes! watching these writers especially the lady at far right -they didnt seem to get it . Pacey as a broker and the introduction of Charlie and the whole season 5 was brutal!!! And you know why ? They didnt value the staying power of Katie and Josh! My goodness they created the slow burn of season 3 and the beauty of their relationship in most of season 4 . Yes a momentary split is always needed to re energize but to keep them apart for a season and then have them find their way back to each other in Castaways -the most beautiful episode of the series save for season 3 finale and the first time episode. And have her REJECT Pacey for Eddie. WTF!!! Couldnt ONE of them realize what we wanted and they started the journey back for the star couple and then CRUSHED it as Joey would never make that decision without days of introspection and burying her feelings for Pacey. Next thing you know she is back in Eddie's bed and heading to Paris with him and not one shred of Pacey and the beautiful night they stayed together in the kmart. This will never make sense to me and love to hear why they reversed course after laying the groundwork for their reunion.
@@jerilane4420 I think it was just a way to prolong the 'will they won't they' aspect of the Joey-Pacey-Dawson love triangle since Eddie leaves her almost immediately after lol. It's a cheap tactic and frankly lazy writing to keep viewers guessing till the finale, which is why I dislike love triangles - the plot and character development goes for a toss. They took away Joey's agency and made her seem supremely indecisive and didn't even explain it properly. I would've understood if she wanted more time and was scared about getting back into a relationship with Pacey because he did hurt her badly at Prom when they broke up; but making her leave him for a rando like Eddie was the wrong path to take in my opinion
So true , I couldn’t understand that part and it bothers me till today .. why did Joey go back to Eddie, unless he was going to die !!!! I’m m Pacey Joey fan .. but finale just didn’t convince me enough the reason for Joey choosing Pacey
@@jerilane4420I think they thought they needed to stay apart for their big finale reunion. It was a 2000’s cliche.
@@Gh-em2yjwhen she went back to Eddie, she looked pretty miserable if I’m being honest. The look in her eye when they hugged was so emotionless.
Thank you for sharing this for those of us who couldn't be there. In many ways, the writing on Dawson's inspired my work as a young adult writer/screenwriter today. Great interview.
Changing it to Pacey was the best decision. So glad Kevin changed his mind 😄
It's just a commercial move, S1 is the real Dawson's Creek, after the show jumping the shark.
@@VNn2023 Okay cool story
@@VNn2023I agree I hate the series finale. It felt rushed and messy. To me I feel like Kevin Williamson sold out with having it be Joey&Pacey when the premise of the show was about the love between Dawson&Joey. Also I feel killing off Jen was a disrespectful move towards the character and Michelle Williams. Too me the finale should have been “Joey Potter and the Capeside Redemption” That episode would’ve been a better send off. Too me its Joey&Dawson and always will be. I wanted Pacey to get back together with Andie. She appeared in the finale but they cut her scene out. Which I thought was stupid.
@@dinozzo97 To me the show is about how Dawson and Joey will always be soulmates, the most important person in eachothers lives. And they learn they can be soulmates without being lovers. They grow up and learn that their love for eachother goes beyond friendship and beyond lovers. So, Joey ending up with Pacey is the best ending possible, because it meant Dawson and Joey grew up.
I agree! I loved Joey ending up with Pacey and redefining the term soulmates. I couldn’t imagine it ending any other way.
They need to have an official reunion. with the casts.
I remember watching the show and being kind of a casual fan around seasons 1-2, and then being absolutely obsessed during season 3! Never seen such great buildup/foreshadowing for a relationship before or since Dawson’s Creek.
I loved the show ! It was so beautifully written!!!
*"...Today it's texting[while driving], in the Dawson Creek days, it's ice-creaming.."*
Love this. This is fantastic to watch.
And, long live *The WB!* I wish this network continued. ...Everwood probably would have gotten a fifth season, but that's another story..
For some reason they canceled Everwood but gave 7th Heaven their 75 season… I’m still salty to this day!
I love this show! It would be a dream to write on a show like this someday. It makes my little girl heart happy. Love Kevin so much.
MySunshine234 do you want to be a screenwriter?
Jack was the very first gay character on TV that made me feel like it was ok to be gay. He made me feel like gay people were just regular people leading regular lives.
Loved the show as a young teen and i recently rewatched and 1-4 seasons the best .
Pacey made joey feel alive, he inspired her by buying her a wall, and challenged her in ways nobody else thought possible. He was very selfless with her. Joey also encouraged pacey every step of the way, and helped him reach his potential. Andy and pacey did not have the same chemistry in my opinion. Pacey and joey were the most passionionate couple on Dawson's creek, the reluctant relationship just created such great sexual tension. Dawson held joey back, kept her in this child like fantasy and unrealistic idea of 'soulmates' that prevented her from following her passions. He was selfish around her, and joey was passive around him. It wasn't a healthy relationship at all. Pacey and joey made Dawson's creek. I'm so happy they ended up together.
I love how most people forget that Pacey crushed Joey at Prom and was a complete a-hole. Neither of them should have ended up with Joey. The best ending would have been for her to find someone else.
@@jennifertimlin1371 If that prom was their last interraction, you would be correct...
@@jennifertimlin1371 there is more to their relationship than one shitty action he apoligised for lmao
@@vicky-ee1ie Really? Did you watch that episode? Because he was horrible. Apology or not. Joey should have just chosen option C and not either Dawson or Pacey
S1 is the real Dawson's Creek! After it's just garbage.
Watching it now and I can tell there was a lot of attention to detail and delight you had in creating this show. It was noticeable!
Season 3 was the best!
after season 4 the show was not the same,,, season 3 and 4 pacey and joey was the best storyline
Agreed
no way. Stopped watching when they got together.
Really? I only watched because of pacey and joey. Pacey made joey feel alive, he inspired her by buying her a wall, and challenged her in ways nobody else thought possible. He was very selfless with her. Joey also encouraged pacey every step of the way, and helped him reach his potential. Andy and pacey did not have the same chemistry in my opinion. Pacey and joey were the most passionionate couple on Dawson's creek. Pacey and joey made Dawson's creek. I'm so happy they ended up together.
I loved season 2 and seeing Andie and pacey together more TBH than Joey Joey I liked at first but she really started to piss me off
After season 1!
Loved this and I too was Team Pacey.
Pacey ❤ Joey
nostalgic... listening to this makes me smile😊 makes me wanna watch DC again
I LOVED THIS SHOW!! IT WAS AMAZING!
A character that really worked and I felt should of CONTINUED was that little kid Pacey was taking care of. Lmaoo he was a rascal and it was pretty funny
Team Pacey forever!!
What a talented Group of people!
I don't know why ppl are saying pacey should've been with andie... joey and pacey was the only thing that just made sense
S1 is the only thing that just made sense, after the show just jumping the shark so who care who end with who!
That's their opinion. Everyone has their own unique perspective on things
Team pacey all the way💃❤❤
Incredible panel
That was great. Thank you.
A wonderful series.
I love Dawson's creek. I've watched the series multiple times and fall in love with it each time. I love that Dawson was Joeys soul mate but not her true love. Pacey was always Joey's true love. Soul mate and true love aren't the same thing. The reason Joey and Dawson didn't work was because they didn't work romantically. They worked better as friends. Where as Pacey and Joey had that spark, and they fitted so well together. I'm so glad that Pacey and Joey ended up together but I hate that Jen died. It ruined the finale for me. I wanted Jen and Dawson to end up together and her baby be Dawson's. Jen and Dawson had the spark. Loved that Jack and Dougie ended up together 😊
Unpopular opinion but I really wanted Andie and Pacey to end up together Andie changed Pacey for the better she made Pacey into the man he was after Season 2 and Loved him no matter what I was really pissed when she slept with that other guy
I wanted Jen and Dawson to be together originally but then it looked as though Jen just wasn't attracted to Dawson anymore. But I feel like Jen was the one person Dawson can be himself around without worrying about hurting someone unlike Joey who seemed to instigate most of the problems
Jack and Doug I actually never pictured together but they're really good together having watched the last two episodes
blackham7 I was sooo pissed when Andie cheated on Pacey. I understand what you mean but I feel Pacey and Joey had better chemistry. Partly to do with Katie and Joshua dated throughout season 1/2 in real life. Joshua was her first love. I feel that the chemistry was real between them because they had it previously before. I agree I wanted Dawson and Jen together. I think some time apart and their spark would have come back. Love Doug and Jack together 😊
@@blackham7 This! Joey instigated most of the problems between her & Dawson
Así es ! Mientras Joey y Pacey estaban juntos no tenían la necesidad de buscar a alguien más, siempre fueron fieles el uno al otro, a diferencia de cuando Joey estaba con Dawson, siempre buscaban algo más.... He ahí porque siempre fueron Joey y Pacey❤
I love the Thanksgiving episode.
I was a team Joey/Dawson fan. With that, I wasn't thrilled when Joey ended up with Pacey. I think I would have found it more acceptable if there was a explainable reason Joey chose Pacey. I felt like when the show ended in current time and then move forward 5 years, I didn't clearly know why or how this Joey/Pacey thing happened. Watching all the shows back recently, I think I was able to see things more clearly because I wasn't as deeply invested with the characters like I was when I watched the original airings of the show. Putting all that together, I wish Joey told Dawson she had to let him go simply because his Hollywood dream and environment was ultimately not conducive with what she wanted for her future. I still wouldn't have been excited with the Pacey choice, but it would've made sense.
This is a cool panel
I wish they would have even just quickly touched on some of the smaller characters...dawsons parents, joeys family, paceys family, grams, jacks dad, audrey and maybe joey's season 6 boyfriend....just to get what needs to be said about them, said. Also, no one ever mentioned Gretchen....felt weird not knowing what any of them thought of her...
Agree
Really interesting
I blame Paul Stupin for turning Dawson a boring character between season 3 and season 4. James Van der Beek said that Dawson's dialogues and story lines never be the same after Kevin left the show and he was right.. the show turns to Joey and Pacey's Creek show.
the audience loved Joey & Pacey so didn't bother with the other characters.
that's true as someone who watched dawsons creek I mostly thought it was a boring show and the only reason I tuned in for it was joey and paceythey were my fav characters and the title character just wasn't for me kind of like how elena was my least fav character on vampire diaries I almost stopped watching cause I didn't get the hype but then season 3 came and then halfway through the pacey and joey romance happened and that's what really really got me into the show and that's when I fell in love with it and when they got together in the finale I was so happy cause I thought she was going to end up with dawson who had literally became the most unlikable character on tv ever
Seasons 1-4 : Dawson's Creek
Season 5-6: Joey's Boston
Fernanda Blunt Krasinski Really? I thought Dawson was a twat during seasons 1-3 lol I thought he became tolerable later
very true!!!!!
pacey forever
Donde puedo ver esta reunion en ESPAÑOL ????? 😢
I want to read Fattores novel!
The constant Dawson Joey break-up and getting back as a couple was lame. I get that the conflict was neccessary to prolong the series, but it became too repetitive. The relationships got even shorter in season 6, which was NOT good storytelling.
Jen lirey should have ended up with dawson. Her character was so fit for it. Its so sad the directors and writers find ways to torture her with all the different relationships and break ups and ending up killing her. Andy or jack should have been the one
Literally when i saw the finale all i could think was that they never gave jen a break, she was constantly screwed over in the show and honestly was just really sad to see
@@fabinicole7877I agree. 😞
i think they would have hated the ending less, if they brought back Gretchen for dawson.
So who decided to kill Abby Morgan?
Not sure, however it was the actress's decision to be written out!
Without Joey and Pacey romance show was just ok Pacey made that show what it was. I hope josh got paid more than James.
No, S1 made the show, after it's just commercial garbage.
a tv series for people to not think what is going on in their country...
RazorFX Why do people make lame comments on here?
Isn't that the entire point of television, religion, drugs and alcohol? Want to take a stab at one, take a stab at all our opiates.
This is great but Pacey and Dawson were barely friends let alone soulmates.
Dawson and Joey forever, S1 is by far the best and they are THE couple and still in love I'm sure.
Totally, in my mind they are lovers after Pacey and Joey got married
Andie and Pacey forever!
YES!
tell me about it. I literally fell apart when they destroyed them and in such a predictable way. Ruined Andie's character in the process too. I still feel so sorry for Meredith Monroe, she was treated diabolically.
I've just watched another TV series where they've done the same to the female lead I liked too, broke my heart again !!!
Pacey made joey feel alive, he inspired her by buying her a wall, and challenged her in ways nobody else thought possible. He was very selfless with her. Joey also encouraged pacey every step of the way, and helped him reach his potential. Andy and pacey did not have the same chemistry in my opinion. Pacey and joey were the most passionionate couple on Dawson's creek. Pacey and joey made Dawson's creek. I'm so happy they ended up together.
She cheated on him 💁♀️👋
Noooooooooo
Too many rational desitions. Live is no like that.
👍🐝✈️⚖️🇺🇸🍺
The show peaked in the first season. There were sections of subsequent seasons that had good elements but season 5 and 6 are just a waste. The flash forward finale years later was a good idea.
I loved the beginning. Hated when Joey broke up wit Dawson and made up with every other guy that came her way. I lost any respect for her character right there. I loved Dawson, Andie and Pacey was my favorite. However, the ending sucked. Dawson and Joey should have end up together. As actors they had the best spark. Pacey should have been with an another girl.. Andie would have been great! These writers ruined the show!! Even Dawson with Jen would have been better than this ending!
First, sorry for my bad english. Dawson and Joey are the true, the real and the best love couple of the show, S1 was simply perfect! 13 perfect episodes! Sadly then the show lost all his magic and became a bad teen soap opera so I don't care at all about the season 6 finale like I don't care about number 2 in movies, to me the show end with Dawson and Joey kiss each other at the window in 1.13, period.
effing b'stards. Ruined the brilliant Andie, (Meredith Monreo) to get Pacey with Joey **PUKES**
Pacey made joey feel alive, he inspired her by buying her a wall, and challenged her in ways nobody else thought possible. He was very selfless with her. Joey also encouraged pacey every step of the way, and helped him reach his potential. Andy and pacey did not have the same chemistry in my opinion. Pacey and joey were the most passionionate couple on Dawson's creek. Pacey and joey made Dawson's creek. I'm so happy they ended up together.
Joyce Gibbs Thaaaank goodness lol
No bastards, just humans and barney
Team Dawson forever ! The ending sucks!
The more I listen to this garbage, the less sense it makes. So they say that Joey and Dawson were supposed to end up togehter but the show had evolved so they felt it was feasible to have Pacey end up with Joey, Andie was meant as a short term romance, but it evolved to not be that way, but they forced the break up anyway.
Garbage.
Pacey made joey feel alive, he inspired her by buying her a wall, and challenged her in ways nobody else thought possible. He was very selfless with her. Joey also encouraged pacey every step of the way, and helped him reach his potential. Andy and pacey did not have the same chemistry in my opinion. Pacey and joey were the most passionionate couple on Dawson's creek, the reluctant relationship just created such great sexual tension. Dawson held joey back, kept her in this child like fantasy and unrealistic idea of 'soulmates' that prevented her from following her passions. He was selfish around her, and joey was passive around him. It wasn't a healthy relationship at all. Pacey and joey made Dawson's creek. I'm so happy they ended up together.
Nomam Clark How does it not make sense to you? lmao Andie was brought on while Kevin was still with the show. Dawson and Joey being end game was Kevin's main focus. He was not there during Joey and Pacey's romance or when Andie came back from therapy so since there were new writers writing for the show after Kevin left, the show took a different direction. So when Kevin was asked to write the finale, he was still thinking in terms of when he was still there but realized that during his absence, the show changed and was different from what he had envisioned and that it made more sense for Joey to choose Pacey because of the direction the show took during his absence.
i kind of really hate the ending of that tv series dawson's creek. pacey should have ended up with andie because i think they were really good for each other. joey should have ended up with dawson because they were meant to be since childhood. if they really want pacey with joey, they should have at least put a love interest to dawson at the end lets say with pacey's sister gretchen whom i think was the most loyal woman to dawson in the series. joey and pacey ended up with good careers and a great love life while dawson had good career and zero love life. ending was a messed especially with jen being dead and pacey was having sex with wife of the others and joey knows that but yet she still chose pacey. it would have been great also if jen ended up with dawson since jen was the first official gf of dawson and they've been with each other through heartbreaks and suffering. i should have not watch the final episode it was all messed up and it sucks!.
Ah no, Pacey and Joey were meant to be, he made her feel emotions Dawson could never
sooo true. Andie & Pacey are my joint favourite couple EVER on TV. I stopped watching when they get rid of her, (very poorly too).
Pacey made joey feel alive, he inspired her by buying her a wall, and challenged her in ways nobody else thought possible. He was very selfless with her. Joey also encouraged pacey every step of the way, and helped him reach his potential. Andy and pacey did not have the same chemistry in my opinion. Pacey and joey were the most passionionate couple on Dawson's creek. Pacey and joey made Dawson's creek. I'm so happy they ended up together.
Fist Bump Ew no lol Pacey never stopped loving Joey, he broke up with Andie and fell in love with Joey during the same season so it was written as Joey being the love of Pacey's life so it ended right in my eyes
Madison Peterson Exactly. Pacey allowed Joey to grow, supported her, encouraged her, taught her to drive, helped her find her courage to follow her heart and when she went back to Dawson a few yrs after their breakup, and when she chose Eddie over him, he didn't give her any ultimatums or anything. He continued to be her friend and eventually said her happiness was the most important thing to him and that just being in love with her was enough no matter who she was with. He was always like that with her. Pacey was written as the better boyfriend... and friend to be honest lol
Everybody on that panel is a bootlicker they got paid nobody on that panel would want their daughter to end up with a guy like Pacey those parents want their daughter with a guy like Dawson somebody with ambition and goals IPC sailing on the Open Seas for 3 months but nothing but none of them is going to admit that they're just going to get Williamson prays for his bad decision
Jesus, cynical much! Pacey had a heart of gold and evolves over the course of the show. He makes good in the end. He had the best story ark in my opinion. Btw, it's "praise" not "prays"
As teenagers Dawson was ideal, whereas Pacey was the challenge. As adults Dawson was career driven to the point of alienation! Pacey was a successful business owner - both had a successful, honorable career. However, Dawson's true love was filmmaking, no woman not even Joey would ever supersceeed filmmaking. It would always take precedents over his romantic relationships, even his relationship with Joey. Pacey was able to separate himself from work and place Joey first.....
Gina Fattore ruined Dawson's Creek. Williamson abandoned the show and left it to people who knew nothing about the show.
That’s why he wrote the finale and had Pacey and Joey together in the end. 😂
@@October_JennJenn to ruin the show even more
1- Andie ❤ Pacey (T2)
2- Dawson (character) S*cks & boring. Ever.
3- Wtf with the Abby (Nelly Olson) character 😂🤢🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️. Seriously.
4- Abby in the Mirror = Jump the Shark of DawsonCreek.
5- What school did Jen's jock lovers go to? Were they abducted?
6- Andie had depression and anxiety. She was treated with a psychiatrist, and a very good social circle. the screenwriters don't. Epic fail.
7- Andie + Pacey = From unstable adolescence to human maturity. Emotional responsibility, true love, human development. (T2)
8- T3 & T4 = just very lucrative fan service and marketing for josh a holmes faces in magazines.
9-- Dawson = Zack Morris + Woody Allen (Mia Farrow era, and post toxic perv*** era) + Random cinema director aspirant without talent.
10- Sorry for my very bad english 😂
PD. Temp1 I think that is the most consistent. naive and with a toxic protagonist in love with spielberg and his own toxic ego. but the most consistent. Then... the improvisation festival begins.
PD2: Team Pacey 😁.
i love dawson and joey end up. the worse is pacey and joey season.