China vs. Germany? Why The Future of The German Auto Industry Will Be Decided in China

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  • Опубликовано: 2 июн 2023
  • The future of the German auto industry will be decided in China. Win-win or meltdown for German manufacturers - who will win the global duel for dominance in the multi-billion "mobility" business?
    Has Germany fallen asleep at the wheel in China?
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  • @obsidianstatue
    @obsidianstatue Год назад +558

    Don't blame China for German carmakers' slow transition to electric vehicles

    • @lucisleesion8824
      @lucisleesion8824 Год назад +105

      When DW posts vids about China, you know the content already 🤣🤣🤣

    • @calc1657
      @calc1657 Год назад +17

      The piece didn't blame China. The piece questioned the strategy of German industry and government.

    • @anirudhkapoor1996
      @anirudhkapoor1996 Год назад +28

      Agreed. But there's more to it. German manufacturers have lost their way entirely. There was a time they built solid machines, but now I can only see them concentrating on adding technology for the sake of technology, which really just makes things worse - climate controls on a touchscreen being a common example of the same.

    • @Gladiatorking7
      @Gladiatorking7 Год назад

      It is a German state media.. expect NATO propaganda only.

    • @allenlau3923
      @allenlau3923 Год назад +3

      @@lucisleesion8824 This video is all about China

  • @tobyli52
    @tobyli52 Год назад +354

    DW is so shallow. This is why Germany is falling behind

    • @alexlo7708
      @alexlo7708 Год назад +76

      It is actually German's BBC. They are under Anglo manage.

    • @lucisleesion8824
      @lucisleesion8824 Год назад +3

      @@alexlo7708 Anglo? What does it mean?

    • @rabbitazteca23
      @rabbitazteca23 Год назад +26

      @@lucisleesion8824 anglo meaning under US, UK, and AUS

    • @calc1657
      @calc1657 Год назад +3

      @tobyli52 What was your issue with the piece?

    • @JohnZoetebier
      @JohnZoetebier Год назад +30

      The entire west including Germany is in a complete state of denial about the current state of affairs. The pace of development in China is breathtaking and the west simply cannot keep up anymore.

  • @silasyuen2996
    @silasyuen2996 Год назад +287

    German cars are not fighting against Chinese cars, they’re fighting against EVs, including Tesla. And the fight is not in German manufacturer‘s favor.

    • @alexlo7708
      @alexlo7708 Год назад +31

      They even lose to Tesla in their home country.

    • @SR-pr2xz
      @SR-pr2xz Год назад +5

      EVs are a red herring. They only shift the hydrocarbon problem, to an environmental problem you don't see as readily. But they still rely on finite resources and create a far bigger environmental problem not to mention running cost e.g. replacing batteries every 5-8yrs. Hydrogen while maybe inefficient to produce now at least had the door open for further technological advancement with an infinite resource

    • @harlentu64
      @harlentu64 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@alexlo7708 Tesla No.1

    • @cowubl
      @cowubl 11 месяцев назад +2

      German Era is over for ever

    • @Walawala459
      @Walawala459 8 месяцев назад

      The press media usually bark up the wrong tree.

  • @yeetian2774
    @yeetian2774 Год назад +231

    DW has no balls to mention Japan, South Korea and US car makers. Germans got slapped so bad in North America by Toyota, Honda and Hyundai KIA

    • @alexlo7708
      @alexlo7708 Год назад +10

      Until they had to move the factory to Mexico. The American ridicule it is Mexican Mercedes.

    • @IamHandsome4u
      @IamHandsome4u Год назад +14

      Germany is not even in the competition, japan is the biggest competitor for china.

    • @tooltalk
      @tooltalk Год назад +11

      @@IamHandsome4u : Japan looks extremely vulnerable. China already forced out South Korean automaker Hyundai (global #3) who once had 10% of the Chinese auto maker, though they managed to climb from global #5 to #3 today. Germany is probably next.

    • @yuxiangluo8614
      @yuxiangluo8614 11 месяцев назад +14

      @@tooltalk Nobody forced Hyundai out. It just can't survive in China market. Hyundai cars are terrible compare with local Chinese cars. Also, Chinese cars overtook Korean Cars in Southeast Asia. If the US open its market for China auto brands, Hyundai won't be able to survive in the US market as well.

    • @MrGanbat84
      @MrGanbat84 11 месяцев назад

      All double standard and racism

  • @passby8070
    @passby8070 Год назад +273

    This story made it sounds like without the Germans, China will still be in the stone age. The reality is that China will forge a path forward even if Germany was not there in the first place. Given long enough peace, China will prosper and thrive like so many times in history, this time is no different.

    • @noblephantasmx
      @noblephantasmx Год назад

      Sorry, but this is absolutly not true. China has always been, and always will be, an opportunistic country. The Chinese economy is only so strong because they stole Western technologies and completely dominate the market with their strict access regulations. Without the West, China would not be where they are now. This has been an ongoing process for decades and not just since yesterday.

    • @andreig475
      @andreig475 Год назад +4

      Why china started Only 30 yeras ago?

    • @tpndtbk
      @tpndtbk Год назад +38

      @@andreig475any nation has up and down period. Look at China 500 years ago

    • @togifashion8737
      @togifashion8737 Год назад +1

      @@andreig475 Because the west gangsters robbered a lot of wealth from China in the past 200 years. You can find the same problem from Afraca, Latin America, India, Mideast, and Southeast asia. But China is lucky, they are too brave and diligent....

    • @markosmataasii2000
      @markosmataasii2000 Год назад +29

      @@tpndtbk Not just 500 years but more than 2000 years ago. Written history itself shows CHINA was always a powerful and leading nation. Since its first unified as one nation way back 221 BC it has become the birthplace of eastern civilization and center of trade.

  • @aburetik4866
    @aburetik4866 Год назад +108

    I sold my Porsche and get a BYD U8.

  • @havencat9337
    @havencat9337 Год назад +136

    WHY demonise them? EV + solar = planet saved!!! their GOV was smart to support the future tech and this should be celebrated. I really despise seeing subjective reporting from DW!

    • @havencat9337
      @havencat9337 Год назад +38

      Also i have seen that DW has increasingly subjective and anti-China reporting. This world needs peace

    • @calc1657
      @calc1657 Год назад +3

      China wasn't demonized. DW had simply highlighted issues German industry was facing.

    • @joem0088
      @joem0088 Год назад

      DW is gocernment funded. You tell me the rest.

    • @gabrielamponsah2612
      @gabrielamponsah2612 Год назад +36

      I struggled to understand this hatred towards China... The world was okay when German cars were dominating the Chinese market but it is now a problem when China is now leading

    • @calc1657
      @calc1657 Год назад +2

      @@gabrielamponsah2612 The hatred is in your imagination. You didn't understand the video.

  • @aannddrroommaann
    @aannddrroommaann Год назад +46

    Such a hawkish documentary. Showing so much army and cannons as though there is an active war going on.

  • @MGZetta
    @MGZetta Год назад +112

    I think one of the reasons German car manufacturers fleeing to China is the lack of cheap energy from NS1 and NS2. Tbh, It surprised me how ready Germany is to fall.

    • @allenlau3923
      @allenlau3923 Год назад +13

      German even don't care about who did it.

    • @jianyang6281
      @jianyang6281 Год назад +13

      @@allenlau3923 what else they can do if they found it was their master did it. Now they find out it was Ukraine did it....but no one buy the story.

    • @walhdamaskus2408
      @walhdamaskus2408 Год назад +4

      ​@@allenlau3923, they are not didnt care who blew the pipeline. They just afraid to much to care, because they knew who did it.

    • @user-lj8kg4jd1l
      @user-lj8kg4jd1l 11 месяцев назад

      Scholz is the warmonger

    • @kkhalifah1019
      @kkhalifah1019 8 месяцев назад

      Annalena Baerbock: "LET MY PEOPLE FREEZE, I DON'T CARE!!!"
      Let them have it.

  • @rodrigomohr1277
    @rodrigomohr1277 Год назад +109

    China is far ahead of Germany!

    • @takuan650
      @takuan650 Год назад

      China is already in free fall!! Down the cliff.

    • @ManAssome
      @ManAssome Год назад +1

      In terms of what, you have to be specific. And they will still catch up and surpass them even in that field too eventually 😂

    • @rodrigomohr1277
      @rodrigomohr1277 Год назад +9

      @@ManAssome EV production, spare parts manufacturing, battery manufacturing. China has far lower energy costs, which makes them way more competitive than Germany. I know since I am a German living in Europe!

    • @ManAssome
      @ManAssome Год назад +3

      @@rodrigomohr1277 oh sorry I read it wrong..

    • @rodrigomohr1277
      @rodrigomohr1277 11 месяцев назад

      @@DjSokYchannel That might have been the case in the past, but not anymore!

  • @nanxingluo4902
    @nanxingluo4902 Год назад +61

    Germany fears its automotive sector will suffer the same fate of its once booming solar sector and rightfully so.

    • @jasonmugridge
      @jasonmugridge Год назад +11

      Germany should of watched what happen to the once great British car industry.

  • @arunanarina1316
    @arunanarina1316 Год назад +85

    Go China🇨🇳💪
    From your Brother, Indonesia🇮🇩

    • @user-ci5vz8yv6u
      @user-ci5vz8yv6u Год назад +7

      thank you

    • @user-hb9jq7wb7l
      @user-hb9jq7wb7l Год назад +6

      👌🏻好的,我的印度尼西亚朋友!

    • @subasthapa8323
      @subasthapa8323 Год назад +1

      Thanks brother 👍

    • @alinux09
      @alinux09 Год назад

      This is the Asian century! All Asian nations will be successful

    • @ScoobieDoo-zy1rh
      @ScoobieDoo-zy1rh Год назад

      China will win this out because they control the battery production.

  • @Andrea70swb
    @Andrea70swb Год назад +102

    German auto makers are already doomed. And they know it…

    • @bobcharles7716
      @bobcharles7716 Год назад +8

      German [or any] auto makers are doomed the moment they did not embraced EV OR have something that leapfrogs EV!

    • @SeattleFSD
      @SeattleFSD Год назад +1

      Agreed!

    • @Andrea70swb
      @Andrea70swb Год назад +4

      @@bobcharles7716 they choosed EV only because China choosed this technology. In Europe we did not need EV. But German company made money with Chinese market… they shoot to their own foot.

    • @bobcharles7716
      @bobcharles7716 Год назад +13

      @@Andrea70swb Maybe America don't need EV, but you are fooling your self if you say Europe don't need EV. Europe is not exactly oil rich.

    • @lucisleesion8824
      @lucisleesion8824 Год назад

      They know it, then they come up with propaganda to defame China.

  • @zhurongonmars6256
    @zhurongonmars6256 Год назад +22

    German automobile sector will now use DW to say that German is no.1🤣

  • @user-st3im5ge7f
    @user-st3im5ge7f Год назад +66

    How about Tesla in China. Tesla is biggest competitor with Germany car companies in China.

    • @SeattleFSD
      @SeattleFSD Год назад +3

      Insane!! 🤯 Just after Elon's reception in China! China ❤ Tesla!!!

    • @user-st3im5ge7f
      @user-st3im5ge7f Год назад

      @@SeattleFSD
      If USA treating China as biggest enemy , China is USA’s biggest enemy .
      Elon ,Cook ….USA’s business men are China’s best friends,so they all are enemies against USA government‘s China policy.

    • @carinatao9974
      @carinatao9974 7 месяцев назад +1

      Tesla price in China has decreased a lot, which is not regarded as a premium car anymore, and it’s dethroned by BYD.
      Btw Tesla buy battery from BYD for its fanciest model.
      It was a smart and bold decision that China gov brought Tesla in 2019 to build gigafactory in Shanghai, which extremely pushed local Chinese EV brands to work&innovate harder to compete.

  • @willengel2458
    @willengel2458 Год назад +149

    DW REV totally ignored what makes German products competitive in the world market. Aside from quality of products, it's cheap Russian energy. the destructions of NS1 & NS2 and the Inflation Act changed all that. German funds and manufacturing headed to US and China to survive.
    German products manufactured in Germany with high priced LNG won't be competitive anytime soon.

    • @alexlo7708
      @alexlo7708 Год назад +7

      Yes , and its household appliance such Bosch electric tools are losing to many US and Japanese brands such Makita , Milwaukee , DeWalt, etc.

    • @randeepsingh9147
      @randeepsingh9147 Год назад +3

      Very intelligent person

    • @lvjinbin28
      @lvjinbin28 Год назад +12

      Germany knows but they have to ignore, or what you expect? investigate USA?

    • @AB-fi5jt
      @AB-fi5jt Год назад

      DW along with many Germany now days think “democracy” will solve all problems

    • @questionmore4675
      @questionmore4675 Год назад

      The reports ignore all that , they're now blaming china not been democracy, money business don't care if you're a democracy or not, money is a universal language the businesses understand.

  • @suheybabdi2070
    @suheybabdi2070 Год назад +45

    What a dump take at the end. Any investment in any country for a critical sector you are dealing with that country's government rules and regulations whether you like it or not. Also, why would any country not use their economy to get up in the chain of production and self-reliance.

    • @lagrangewei
      @lagrangewei Год назад

      furthermore this is written in WTO rules, if developing countries are not allowed to develop their industry, no one will join the WTO. this is why you always see US threatening to leave and not China. because US knows its in the WTO rules. and now they are pretending that the rules they setup are "unfair", what a joke.

  • @gunsroses1293
    @gunsroses1293 Год назад +86

    The Germans always mistakenly think that it is the Chinese and they learned the car manufacturing technology. This is German narcissism. In fact, China's own development of automobiles began in 1950. In 1958, China began to produce its own brand of "Hongqi" cars.

    • @user-hb9jq7wb7l
      @user-hb9jq7wb7l Год назад

      这是不对的,

    • @tooltalk
      @tooltalk Год назад +3

      >> In fact, China's own development of automobiles began in 1950

    • @lucisleesion8824
      @lucisleesion8824 Год назад

      I heard that story, 1950's hongqi, but I also heard they are just the old Buicks bought from GM.

    • @DR.Don1899
      @DR.Don1899 Год назад +1

      As a native of China, I want to correct you. China's automobile industry has learned a lot from Germany. In 2015, my first car was Volkswagen Magotan. It has been eight years.There is no problem.but it will eventually be eliminated like Nokia's mobile phone. The future belongs to new energy vehicles, just like smart phones replace old-fashioned mobile phones. China is far ahead in new energy vehicles, so my next car should be a China car.

    • @user-gn8nf7fv1t
      @user-gn8nf7fv1t Год назад

      @@DR.Don1899我也是上一辆日产,上个星期我已经定了零跑C11了..真不是一个时代的东西!

  • @VshapeDino
    @VshapeDino Год назад +29

    The topic is on cars and the first thing they show is military. The G7 are masters of economic coercions themselves.

    • @xucg
      @xucg Год назад +7

      It was the daily flag-raising ceremony in China, as well as the ceremony held to welcome foreign heads of state. In DW's view it was a sign of dictatorship.

    • @user-kb1dw9kg9j
      @user-kb1dw9kg9j Год назад +5

      its literally in every video about china, doesnt matter which topic it is.

  • @kapamilyatalks5420
    @kapamilyatalks5420 Год назад +23

    The fall of Western Autoimakers.. Here in Manila we are excited and more admired of those Chinese EV made vehicles like BYD

  • @johnpersie9328
    @johnpersie9328 Год назад +16

    what is Tawian have to do with your automotive supremacy?...why can't DW just do topic without mentioning china treat,Tawian invasion?

    • @lagrangewei
      @lagrangewei Год назад +1

      DW thinks Taiwan is Ukraine, but actually Taiwan is Crimea...

  • @richardlee3971
    @richardlee3971 Год назад +18

    in previous years, german car companies earn tens of billions dollars every year in china, German media said that these companies are too dependent on chinese market, if i can get so much money from others, i would be glad to be dependent on these persons, today, German car OEMs face great challenges due to your own slow movement and now you can it threat, so either way, China is bad per your narrative, interesting...

  • @songnianzhang366
    @songnianzhang366 Год назад +75

    Dw never drop its arrogance and sense of superior ,as always!

    • @nehcooahnait7827
      @nehcooahnait7827 Год назад +1

      Condescending is the word you are looking for

    • @captives6479
      @captives6479 Год назад +5

      @@nehcooahnait7827 It's Anglo arrogance and their sense of superiority.

    • @yashpatel261
      @yashpatel261 Год назад

      White people are going to get humbled in this decade

    • @DR.Don1899
      @DR.Don1899 Год назад +1

      气急败坏and无能狂怒。你得理解,你得享受盎格鲁撒克逊人的这种情绪。未来会越来越多。🤭🤭🤭

  • @user-dc9ew8qv4j
    @user-dc9ew8qv4j Год назад +23

    China is 1.4 billion ppl, I belive it is still in the beginning if China gets a bit bigger it will be as big as Jpana S Korea and USA and Germany and France and Britain and Canada and Australia and Netherlands and Italy combined, I achtuly think China is very underrated and it has a bright future just like elon musk said China will be at least 2 times economically bigger than USA or 3 times at most, so let them invest more in Scince and let the competition be more fierce they are very strong and we should challenge them even more.

    • @lagrangewei
      @lagrangewei Год назад

      BRICS is already bigger by GDP than the G7... the G7 really can't change the trajectory of the world anymore, it isn't just "China rising"... the entire world has changed...

  • @izumi6704
    @izumi6704 Год назад +45

    Growing up, my family had multiple cars from the VW group including VW, Skoda, and Audi. But since my mom had an Accord, the only car we buy now is Japanese.

    • @yeetian2774
      @yeetian2774 Год назад +15

      Exactly, the real competitors are Japanese and South Koreans. DW just don’t want to talk about it on purpose.

    • @mnldgbD
      @mnldgbD Год назад

      Japanese are exactly like the Germans, lagging behind in their past success.

    • @davidk.d.7591
      @davidk.d.7591 Год назад +11

      ​@@yeetian2774 Not for EVs. The Japanese are very late to the Ev market and are losing even more market share than the Germans in China. They're actually in more danger than VW and the others. Koreans are trying tho

    • @lucisleesion8824
      @lucisleesion8824 Год назад +7

      But honestly, the Japanese do not even have a car like VW ID series.

    • @yeetian2774
      @yeetian2774 Год назад

      @@davidk.d.7591 EV is still a tiny little market. Hybrid and combustion is still the main stream. Besides China don’t really export anything to EU

  • @markosmataasii2000
    @markosmataasii2000 Год назад +24

    Where would German Companies go? India? lol. Indians can even barely fund basic Infrastructures and average purchasing power of Indian is still very minuscule compared to CHINA. Besides, India has its own domestic car companies and they prefer those cheap affordable cars. Southeast asia, same case with India and not that huge market actually vs CHINA. Africa and Latin America? They prefer affordable cars. The future of german companies is very dark. And this goes to blame their govt for blinding the side eye and still following US hegemony despite the fact that US is constantly trying to de industrialize Europe itself. LOL...

    • @davidmoss2576
      @davidmoss2576 11 месяцев назад

      This comment deserves more Likes!

    • @erenyaeger9407
      @erenyaeger9407 9 месяцев назад

      You seem to live in age old delusional world

    • @cyborg029.
      @cyborg029. Месяц назад

      Lol Tesla setting up plants in India, Musk to visit in APRIL keep living in delulu.

  • @michaelloong964
    @michaelloong964 Год назад +21

    Progress comes from competition just like in sports competition, the winner can be from any country. All the sports participants learn from one and other. Europeans learnt from China in early centuries about metal casting, printing and navigation and paper making. Now China can run faster than Germany , then Germany has to learn from China to compete. Germany cannot afford to stay still not to innovate and improve.

  • @Quancept
    @Quancept Год назад +56

    Any Indian watching this, our competition should be with China, not Pakistan. The Chinese have improved leaps and bounds in almost everything even though we both started our journey together as dirt poor nations. We should observe and learn from them. Anyway congrats to the Chinese, you guys deserve this success.

    • @nehcooahnait7827
      @nehcooahnait7827 Год назад

      Yes india’s one-sided competition and obessesion with China that China doesn’t even notice.

    • @gogosmkkk5138
      @gogosmkkk5138 Год назад +6

      India No1, only the US can be competition

    • @driver5347
      @driver5347 Год назад +7

      Nice bro. India and China should work together against the US

    • @user-kb1dw9kg9j
      @user-kb1dw9kg9j Год назад +9

      india should continue competing with pakistan, china is way above india's league. India and China are not compareable

    • @DR.Don1899
      @DR.Don1899 Год назад

      China, a friend of India, is totally dismissive of competing with India. There are too many problems in your country, and you don't have any strength to compete with China.

  • @Mao11622
    @Mao11622 Год назад +8

    It's so odd every piece DW makes about China has to include its military parade.

  • @user-pp8jb5ko9m
    @user-pp8jb5ko9m Год назад +5

    German auto companies have increased their investment in China and have in-depth cooperation with Chinese auto-related companies. Now the biggest decline in sales in China is Japanese cars, not German cars.

  • @nicholasl5247
    @nicholasl5247 Год назад +7

    Unbelievable biases and Hypocrisy ; BYD Have struggled in the market More then 20 years ; Nowadays they take the lead by constantly investing and spend more then 20 years in R&D ,and
    They dare to take the risk to bet on EVS . and finally it paid off .
    Currently The war ignite right now , Competition is good for customers . We hope all company embrace for Competition .

  • @user-tn7nq9vk8p
    @user-tn7nq9vk8p Год назад +14

    لماذا دوماً القناة تحاول شيطنة الصين لم تعد هذة القناة محايدة

    • @doffy2192
      @doffy2192 Год назад

      No

    • @loooongtimeago
      @loooongtimeago 3 месяца назад

      They never had been neutral , it was the Germans who mastered propaganda 80 years ago after all.

  • @lwty
    @lwty Год назад +8

    If you have competitive product, you will survive the competition. But without the Chinese market, it is impossible to roll out competitive products, especially for EV cars.

  • @I_dont_want_an_at
    @I_dont_want_an_at Год назад +5

    China uses economic influence as a weapon? Say that about yourself first and we can have a conversation

  • @mochen9282
    @mochen9282 Год назад +25

    I thought that Germany lost that battle to Japan long time ago.

    • @bobcharles7716
      @bobcharles7716 Год назад

      Not in China because the Chinese have a thing about the Japanese something to do with killing 30 million people in China and still don't acknowledge it to this day.

    • @lozkko
      @lozkko Год назад +3

      Have you seen net profit margins of BMW and Mercedes compared to Japanese carmakers? You must be joking

    • @johnsmith-cw3wo
      @johnsmith-cw3wo Год назад

      @@lozkko Tofaş Türk Otomobil Fabrikası have higher net profit margins than Tesla (and all behind Tesla) what's your point ?
      also Mahindra and Maruti have higher net profit margins than VW... I guess India is SUPERIOR to Germany 💪💪

    • @byhyew
      @byhyew Год назад +1

      German ICE cars far outcompete Japanese brands in China.

    • @bobcharles7716
      @bobcharles7716 Год назад +2

      @@byhyew true. So did China saved the German auto industry like it saved Buick?

  • @Intudesia8792
    @Intudesia8792 Год назад +27

    Watching DW is like listening to any American news outlet who emphasise mainly one risks and threats without acknowledge their own shortcoming. Just like other countries, Chinese work very hard to improve life and strive to success. If China does things better these is because they have invested and learned a lot from others.

    • @VostockR
      @VostockR 3 месяца назад

      dw is manipulation, they want you hate china.

  • @subasthapa8323
    @subasthapa8323 Год назад +7

    So you are blaming the competition, lol.

  • @directxxxx71
    @directxxxx71 Год назад +7

    Tesla even beats German in their home turf 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ecrush5080
    @ecrush5080 Год назад +10

    WHY it have to be "VS" ??

    • @johnsvensson6540
      @johnsvensson6540 Год назад +6

      Because click bait

    • @nielseixler7986
      @nielseixler7986 Год назад

      @@johnsvensson6540 „&“ might be better?

    • @ecrush5080
      @ecrush5080 Год назад

      @@johnsvensson6540 Hmm maybe... but we can see the tittle is changed. :)

  • @OhmUdomvanich
    @OhmUdomvanich Год назад +9

    Chinese will not leave Mercedes-Benz behind because BAIC and Geely own almost 20% in Mercedes-Benz

  • @ffgftgfgfgf6434
    @ffgftgfgfgf6434 Год назад +4

    auto industry is a game between us and china,nothing to do with german,german is not a player anymore

  • @mnldgbD
    @mnldgbD Год назад +22

    German companies had a long time to start seriously inovate and transition to electric cars, but they preferred to stay ( and some still prefer) to keep on their old polluting and high maintenance cars. Their lack of investment and interest in programming and electronics didn't help at all. I dislike chinese politics but on this one they were right and their companies were amazing in moving forward without excuses

    • @alexlo7708
      @alexlo7708 Год назад +4

      Blaupunkt stereo in Benz or BMW dash is so bad and obsolete.

    • @hkonhelgesen
      @hkonhelgesen Год назад +1

      VW and BMW made their first electric cars in the 1960s. They started early and moved slowly. Now they go all in. With VW ID-cars, BMW i-cars and Mercedes EQ-cars.

    • @hkonhelgesen
      @hkonhelgesen Год назад +1

      @@alexlo7708 Becker Mexico retro DAB is nice in all oldtimers.

    • @morbid747
      @morbid747 Год назад +1

      They became complacent after owning a big chunk of the market share. Just like Nokia and Motorola in the 1990's.

    • @DR.Don1899
      @DR.Don1899 Год назад

      @@hkonhelgesenI'm sorry, I haven't seen any intelligent vehicle system comparable to China on German Car.Antiques decades ago do not represent modern electric cars.

  • @MrGanbat84
    @MrGanbat84 11 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you China for making nice car more affordable. here in DW all are double standard and racism

  • @hi4806
    @hi4806 Год назад +9

    😂😂Germans used to laugh at Tesla and China electric cars.

  • @markdc1145
    @markdc1145 Год назад +3

    The flood gates of cheap and high-quality Chinese EVs are opening wide while German auto manufacturers and unions are debating the transition to EV technology. This is looking more and more to be a repeat of what happened to the British auto industry in the 1970s.

  • @worldabc428
    @worldabc428 Год назад +3

    quite strangely, Germany says its most important martket is a risk...

  • @Roman-lv1zt
    @Roman-lv1zt Год назад +5

    DW is getting roasted in the comments section 😂😂

  • @humansarecrazybeing5730
    @humansarecrazybeing5730 Год назад +8

    DW, this is not colonial period era anymore so stop blaming other non white countries for everything

  • @kimchiba4570
    @kimchiba4570 Год назад +4

    The first thing the video shows about China is the military..

  • @pxidr
    @pxidr 11 месяцев назад +3

    When you know that Mercedes almost do 50% of their sales in China and that Chinese people starts to slowly discard German cars towards their national car makers, that are now almost as well built (or better) than german cars, yeah, German car industry is in deep trouble.

  • @duolayang
    @duolayang 11 месяцев назад +4

    Mainland China and Taiwan are not neighboring countries. As a serious media, please don't make mistakes on common sense issues. Mainland China and Taiwan are two regions in a state of civil war, and both regions are regions of China.

    • @loooongtimeago
      @loooongtimeago 3 месяца назад

      I bet most of the western audience being brainwashed by the media like DW don't know Taiwan's official name is Republic Of China 😂

  • @rabbitazteca23
    @rabbitazteca23 Год назад +5

    U blew up ur own Pipelone from Russia thus causing ur car prices to soar.... Who's fault is that?

    • @modfus
      @modfus 10 месяцев назад

      No, it was Joe Biden who blew up the pipeline. With "friends" like the USA, who needs enemies?

  • @ericzong1189
    @ericzong1189 Год назад +1

    what is the music used in the video ? anyone knows?

  • @peterrathod
    @peterrathod Год назад +2

    Not just Germany, Japan is lagging behind too

  • @dangdaiwu4690
    @dangdaiwu4690 Год назад +9

    The United States often says that China has a war risk, which is the means it uses to cope with the competition with China

    • @lagrangewei
      @lagrangewei Год назад

      the irony is US is the greatest war risk to germany... you don't even need to be at war for them to bomb your pipeline and they will even make you shut up about it... xD

  • @togifashion8737
    @togifashion8737 Год назад +2

    I watched the same topic from CNBC, the EV battle between China and USA......

  • @Antipius
    @Antipius Год назад +3

    As a German, I hope German car makers (besides Opel) go under. Terrible, unethical business model. Extensive lobbying and tampering with public opinion..
    And completely outdated engineering. It wouldn't be a loss for humanity.

    • @pass3d
      @pass3d Год назад

      不要这样想,汽车工业上下游产业带动了很多就业。如果德国本土汽车制造商营收萎缩,倒闭,你的生活收入也会受影响的。中国现在电动汽车发展非常快,德国人应该加快速度转型,否则就是以后的NOKIA。

  • @Athrunwong
    @Athrunwong Год назад +4

    Don't really care, whomever makes the best products with the best offering price wins the customers.

  • @ALWH1314
    @ALWH1314 11 месяцев назад +3

    The name of the country Taiwan and four other islands is “Republic of China”, and their constitution and map includes mainland China.

  • @themiddlekingdom9121
    @themiddlekingdom9121 7 месяцев назад +1

    40 years ago, the German automakers didn't have risky bet at all in China.

    • @ARUchannel1
      @ARUchannel1 7 месяцев назад +1

      germany wanted quick cash, but now chinese makers are better

  • @gouwkimdjoe2522
    @gouwkimdjoe2522 Год назад +5

    Yi loong ma is already built new gigafactory in Shanghai 😂

    • @bin.s.s.
      @bin.s.s. Год назад +1

      We call him 马一龙

    • @HafiZzZzZz
      @HafiZzZzZz Год назад +3

      President XI should have also invited Yi Long MA when Elon Musk visited shanghai earlier

  • @Leitalks
    @Leitalks Год назад +4

    Germany is doomed one way or another

  • @jimmylam9846
    @jimmylam9846 Год назад +1

    It is just like TBM......they have surged ahead German makers with price ( 50 % cheaper ),quality and services (7/24 live online technical service) beating them in export market hands down.

  • @joenewcfd
    @joenewcfd Год назад +14

    I think German companies are able to turn more to the States and try to sell more cars there by beating the Japanese companies. There are no risks.

    • @gustavomercado1599
      @gustavomercado1599 Год назад +2

      You didn't account for the Koreans, which are making very decent electric cars

    • @joenewcfd
      @joenewcfd Год назад +4

      @@gustavomercado1599 I only know German cars are better.

    • @gustavomercado1599
      @gustavomercado1599 Год назад +4

      @@joenewcfd Except that objectively they aren't. The VW ID family of cars have terrible software and German cars are not considered reliable in the states

    • @joenewcfd
      @joenewcfd Год назад +1

      @@gustavomercado1599 As I know, even VWs are regarded as luxury. German car companies are making and can make a lot of money in Northamerican. People who own German cars are pretty proud.

    • @lvjinbin28
      @lvjinbin28 Год назад

      why not Germany hate BYD not Tesla?

  • @cklim3614
    @cklim3614 Год назад +1

    Which businss has. No risk?

  • @fengxiaoma
    @fengxiaoma Год назад +4

    The biggest threat to German car makers is Tesla, is Elon Musk, who can define the EVs industry now and future...It so sad that you can't realised this fact until today...it also partially explained why German car makers are doomed.

    • @umu-i-d2785
      @umu-i-d2785 Год назад

      Tesla will be old news in a matter of a few years

    • @taiwanstillisntacountry
      @taiwanstillisntacountry Год назад

      And where does Tesla buys its batteries from?
      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @weird-guy
    @weird-guy Год назад +7

    In my country (Europe) German car are still in the top 10 but top 3 are still French brands 😊

    • @lucisleesion8824
      @lucisleesion8824 Год назад

      Then I guess you are french

    • @alexlo7708
      @alexlo7708 Год назад +3

      Don't forget there are many German cars hiding behind some European brands such as Skoda and Seat.

    • @chrisbell238
      @chrisbell238 Год назад

      Excellent brother... tell you friends not to support the end of your industry with Chinese cars. IF they come to US, people say they will destroy them on street which will mean insurance will no longer cover (happened with kia) and sales will plunge. .... so bring it CCP car

    • @CM73878
      @CM73878 Год назад

      French manufacturers have more to fear from China as France produces no premium brands such as Audi, BMW and Mercedes. Their future is in doubt as they scramble for market share at the bottom of the pile. No-one “aspires” to own a French car. They are a commodity. I say this with a huge sense of regret but in future I doubt that the a French manufacturers will be able to compete against Chinese and other Eastern Asian manufacturers such as Vietnam. This will have a devastating effect on jobs in Europe and prosperity.

    • @alexlo7708
      @alexlo7708 Год назад +1

      @@CM73878 French car brands have already sold to Stelantis. So they don't worry.

  • @ibexturbo367
    @ibexturbo367 Год назад

    Opel will be happy with this fact, but also sad because none will buy them in comparison to the era when even a few people chose Opel cars except majority Opel cars are either Astra or Corsa.

  • @bgg2249
    @bgg2249 Год назад +6

    Are you serious? The future of cars is obviously the trend of electrification, only China and the United States are leading the way, while the traditional Germany and Japan have already lagged behind.

  • @mjwalkabout8737
    @mjwalkabout8737 Год назад +33

    Crying babies! There are no excuses for incompetents

    • @hartoz
      @hartoz Год назад +1

      There's no excuse for bad spelling either. But then again you are in China ;-)

    • @jasonmugridge
      @jasonmugridge Год назад

      Complacency

    • @mjwalkabout8737
      @mjwalkabout8737 Год назад

      @@hartozSure & Noted!

    • @directxxxx71
      @directxxxx71 Год назад

      ​@@hartoz his second language skill might be better yours

  • @johncompassion9054
    @johncompassion9054 Год назад +8

    Germany and Europe in general is lagging behind compared to Japan, S. Korea and China when it comes to electronics and software systems. This did not happed yesterday, things are this way for decades and when cars started to include more and more electronics, and tend to rely less on mechanical systems, this problem is starting to get the attention from the general public. Europe needs to invest a lot into this and genuinely do a deep and humble study to figure out
    1. Why European/German car electrics fall apart after a few years while Japanese electronics hold up (like super complex Toyota Prius)
    2. Why East Asian softwares (car infotainment systems) feel much modern, things are laid out rationally utilising advanced tech while European/German cars' infotainment systems feel like they are still in dark ages. I am not insulting anyone, this is a reality Germany (my childhood hero car country) has to wake up to.

  • @koonsiang0345
    @koonsiang0345 Год назад +1

    Who are u going to blame for the deindustrialisation strategy that resulted in shutting down of german auto industry?

  • @ccei638
    @ccei638 10 месяцев назад +1

    If invest in china is an increasing risky business, why the German manufactures are doubling down on investing in China? DW is talking rubbish.

  • @oussamarahhab1128
    @oussamarahhab1128 Год назад +3

    I will buy a chinese EV in the near future and encourage everyone in my surroundings to do the same. German cars are getting lame by the minute !

  • @lukeecle117
    @lukeecle117 Год назад +2

    Mercedes S class car OS vs NIO ES6 OS => Nokia 1610 vs iPhone 14

  • @modfus
    @modfus 10 месяцев назад +1

    In future, these German brands will either go out of business or be owned by China. I can see the day coming when Mercedes is a Chinese-owned brand (like Volvo and MG)

  • @nelcalb
    @nelcalb 11 месяцев назад +1

    So Germany victimizing itself because the student surpassed the master.

  • @miskomarkovic3446
    @miskomarkovic3446 Год назад

    Thank you

  • @captives6479
    @captives6479 Год назад +1

    It no longer makes sense to the Chinese to buy expensive German premium EV's from Benz, BMW and Audi. German car industry will only decline.

  • @crishhari5903
    @crishhari5903 Год назад +9

    More videos like this and I am sure Germany will lose even more market share to the domestic and American car makers.
    There is truth in the video but the tone is full of arrogance.

  • @nicktan8600
    @nicktan8600 Год назад +1

    Just compete. All will have their own share.

  • @tvm73836
    @tvm73836 11 месяцев назад +2

    In Apple we used to mention that “what got you to where you are is not enough to keep you there”. This applies to German car companies too. The arrogance and hubris has brought them to this point, not China. Apparently India is one market they could dominate but they have their head way up their a… and are likely to miss that one too.

  • @Fiend1sh3
    @Fiend1sh3 Год назад +2

    Go, China! Go!

  • @nicks.2627
    @nicks.2627 Год назад +2

    German car lack of karaoke app? Seriously baseless and subjective imagination. Even the German documentary tries to ignore the key problem. The German EV cars have the lowest battery density compared to the others and lack connectivity thinking. They are still hoping consumer buy their cars because of their brand, but VW can't even compete with Tesla. neither the quality nor the user experience.

  • @johnfrancis4401
    @johnfrancis4401 Год назад +2

    It’s too late. VW, BMW and Daimler are going bust.

  • @tomo1168
    @tomo1168 Год назад +1

    german car makers already lost the biggest market.
    now they hve to fight for their own market - europe - against the chinese. or let the eu set high tarifs. and we didn't even mentioned tesla.

  • @questionmore4675
    @questionmore4675 Год назад +4

    Don't GO to china if you want talk about democracy , not every country most practice democracy and why bring Taiwan issues Into auto businesses?

    • @lozkko
      @lozkko Год назад

      Your comment is a non sequitur (true statement from which it doesn't follow a logical conclusion). Regardless of what one takes on democracy is, Taiwan produces the majority of semiconductors. With Covid, there were chip shortages everywhere, and you couldn't get lots of goods, with massive waiting lists. Cars need lots of chips. How can you not think about Taiwan if you are in the business of making cars😂😂😂

    • @questionmore4675
      @questionmore4675 Год назад +2

      @@lozkko they're talking about china aggressiveness towards Taiwan this is not business

    • @lozkko
      @lozkko Год назад

      @@questionmore4675 you are a company making cars. Let's suppose China invades Taiwan. Let's suppose you don't care as a country, and want to remain neutral. You still care about semiconductors. Taiwan's production of chips is disrupted, down say 70% and the Chinese obviously redirect the chips to local production. You should care for this reason, even if you don't give a fig 🤦🤦

    • @user-ci5vz8yv6u
      @user-ci5vz8yv6u Год назад

      你根本就不懂什么是民主,中国人的民主
      You don't even understand what democracy is, Chinese democracyn

    • @josephkibeera2416
      @josephkibeera2416 Год назад

      China's meritocracy vs western democracy , it's seems China's political model is more efficient because only the best talented people can be in political leadership

  • @donkeykong516
    @donkeykong516 Год назад +1

    China is in the drivers seat, no pun intended

  • @bandwsf
    @bandwsf Год назад +2

    EV is a disrupter. Everyone has to adjust to it. The process is going to be painful.

  • @arturperrellaglukhovskyy9888
    @arturperrellaglukhovskyy9888 10 месяцев назад +1

    When I heard "French carmakers as Stellantis", I thought about how much Italy is disappearing from the industrial scene. Does the world really think that Stellantis is only French if it was created by an Italo-American AND French group? 🤔

  • @xrc5540
    @xrc5540 Год назад +2

    As expected this clickbait video is another opportunity to bash China. So tired of it.

  • @hectorcardenas2171
    @hectorcardenas2171 16 дней назад

    Oh shit! China became innovative, something I thought would NOT happen. 😮

  • @godzillamothra5983
    @godzillamothra5983 Год назад +1

    watching this "news", is like watching horse cart manufacturer complaining about ford stealing their tech and replacing them

  • @bobbyfit92
    @bobbyfit92 Год назад +3

    Now you want to copy from them but they West hate when China learn from them 😅

  • @Voxabonable
    @Voxabonable Год назад

    It's no like someone's pointing a gun at you to go to China. It's no like anyone over there will stop you from leaving either.

  • @sastravithkhieu9353
    @sastravithkhieu9353 9 месяцев назад

    Great news!!❤

  • @hsbio
    @hsbio 2 месяца назад

    Nobody Wants Electric Cars here in germany. We Even haven‘t enough power to recharge 😂

  • @jslchan9734
    @jslchan9734 Год назад +1

    What kind of journalism is this? Contrast German cars with Chinese military parade. This is so low.

  • @Leitalks
    @Leitalks Год назад +2

    Blame Elon Musk instead of China

  • @lcwin1
    @lcwin1 Год назад +2

    EV is a revolution in how cars is made . German n Japan hv put huge long term investment n no willing to switch to EV as profit margins r way higher generally in ICE with crazy amount of parts needing overpriced maintenance few years down the road. EV is way simpler for a basic car .