That’s like a X1,000,000 that Phil is holding. And it’s just floating around the house. The box that created the soundtrack of my youth and a diamond selling album is in a junk drawer. Amazing.
LOL...hilarious...in a junk drawer is right. You envision these rock stars with meticulously organized houses full of stuff then you realize they are like everybody else with their kitchen tools...oh honey where is that certain mixing spoon we used in that other recipe....oh it might be in that junk drawer in the food pantry....LOL It's hilarious when he has to walk around that room looking for this Tom Scholz masterpiece device and well it might be somewhere.
First Tom Scholz writes, plays and records a debut album that is pure gold. Then he proceeds to build a box that gets used to record another monster album. The man is a legend!
This is definitely the best rock n roll interview I've ever seen !!! Our favorite guitar hero unearthing THE Rockman and reminiscing about the 80s gear he used for the iconic Hysteria album !!! Wow !!! Phil is awesome !!!!!
@@JeremyWhiteShow Great interview! I love the Hysteria album a lot. Wicked guitar on it and everything else as well. I still have my Rockman X-100, but it needs fixing. Still looks great on the inside.
It’s crazy how amazing that album sounds with that little box of magic! There’s this really special crispness to the sound in the Rockman that is truly special!
Amen. But it def makes sense freq wise. The Rockman cuts a lot of lows & highs which made room for the other instruments and allowed them too stack lots of guitar parts. But yeah, even the lil built in chorus sounds killer. Tom Scholz def knew his stuff.
Hysteria is like that song that is just so melodic and perfect. It's musical perfection and you realize how masterful they were as musicians. Pyromania and Hysteria are the best one two punch for back to back albums. Pyromania is more raw in my opinion and Hysteria is more melodic and interesting for just a more polished sound in a way but crazy good hooks. Every song on Hysteria is perfect. Pyromania though is amazing also.
On the automated EQ thing. Mike Shipley confirmed that he and Mutt used some kind of fancy (potentially prototype) programmable digital graphic EQ to sequence filter changes during mixes. In that instance Mike was referring to using it to tweak a vocal performance so literally every syllable sat in the mix just so (because Mutt being Mutt, perfection is the only suitable outcome). So it’s entirely feasible such EQing was done elsewhere in the mix, but then again it might be just the combination of strummed and picked parts mixed together (as Sav has confirmed for the bridge of ‘Hysteria’ many a time before) that gives it that shimmery tonality. It’s unlikely to ever happen, but if Mutt Lange ever decided to do a proper full blown interview deconstructing many of his greatest hits, it would be a world shattering event for every audio engineer and producer on the planet….
Phil is one of the best players out there. He also has a strong understanding of studio dynamics. The studio is such a different world from the live show, that a thing that may sound great in one scenario may not work at all in the other. I've used a Rockman to record as well. They kind of help keep things nice and tidy with the combination of chorus and compression. But live, I could never use one. They sound too compact for a live situation, not open enough. The brilliance of Mutt Lange is that he understands how to layer in a rich texture from different tracks. You mix a clean track with a slightly dirty track, and you get a big, full sound.
The 1988 Def Leppard Hysteria tour was the first time I saw them live (in Ottawa), I was 17. What an amazing show and still one of my top-5 ever! The stage in the middle of the arena was an awesome experience, also a first for me. The energy that night was off the charts. The last time I saw DL was in 2019 when they opened for Bon Jovi in Munich. I wanted to leave after their set 😅but my friends convinced me to stay.
This guy just went BEHIND the curtain of OZ! Wow, So it was a STOCK x100.... Wow Phil's such a classy guy phenomenal player...he is the 80s guitar sound! Oh yea I got it right here... Smh unreal
i'm pretty surprised all that sound mostly was that Rockman. that's pretty impressive. i'm sure there's some mixing going on but the basic sound has always impressed me with Hysteria. the thing about Hysteria that made it have such a signature Def Leppard sound to me was how the guitars actually sounded like an animal growling. i can't tell if that was intentional but you hear stuff like the beginning of Rocket or the dive bomb just after the chorus in Hysteria before it's about to go into the duet and you hear this very distinct growl. that tone/sound just added so much depth to that album.
Love Phil Collen, seems like a good bloke in addition to being a beast of a player. Btw if you have a Kemper, producer Mbritt got a rare Rockman stack unit profiled into one of his packs. It is dead on, though the chorus effect cant be profiled with it. But I get cd perfect boston tones and probly these tones as well from it with feedback and everything.
Yup! that's what it took to make that sound on Phil's Gtr. Trk. by recording seperate Trks for the Chiming GTR. of cour the other Gyt Trk was similar but w/ a CHord and Temelo whilke they webt back & forth! Litle different those days vs. today :)
Amazingly cool,thanks for sharing. Ha,I played in a cover band in the 80's using one of those Rockman's permanently duct taped to the back of a Flying V. Hundreds of gigs,all kinds of weather,venues. Never failed-- Ugh,listening back,I hate that chorus.
Indeed. Through the ‘90s and early ‘00 they couldn’t give them away at guitar shops and Pawn Shops. They were $50 to $75 and would seat there for months, if not years.
Phil Collins is looking great. His hair grew back. /s I wish I knew what happened to my Rockman. Bought one when they came out, but somewhere along the way it disappeared... :-(
I put a Rockman ace in front of a Johnson and Def Leppard sound immediately popped out. Really iconic sound. ZZtop used them also. Very distinct and I can hear it on a lot of albums.
I love all the studio trickery to get certain sounds and results. The end being the songs we all come to love and remember. But how all this is pulled off live is a mystery. If it even is.
Somebody needs to do a Robert "Mutt" Lange analysis as a record producer. His style, his albums and how he has worked to shape the sounds of so many great bands.
Im wondering if your talking about the GK amps that were really small with 2 small speakers that was a combo amp that had an awesome chorus sound? I remember seeing those amps at guitar center in chicago when I was teenager, it was an amp I always liked but never bought one.
@@jeffreyklaproth7794 Hi! yes it is those amps, the one Gary Moore used Iron Maiden and so on, there is the 250 ML (combo) and a 250 RL(rack mounted) later they made the 206MLE but they did not become as popular.
You should have said, at some point: “Can you repeat that? I didn’t hear you because my outfit is too loud” 😜 Here’s another one: Did that outfit come with an Ox box so you can turn it up to ten? 😜 All kidding aside, love the lighting and the purple foam. Just got my EVH Special in metallic purple and it just smokes. Nice vid!
😂🤣😂 That jacket was actually an homage to his custom painted Jackson’s I had done by Christian Benner! He makes incredible art on jackets. Check out his IG!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
I have 2 of those but you can't get a huge sound like Leppard out of those boxes alone. there was some Mutt magic put in there on top of it. don't know what it is. lots of overdubs and processing involved maybe. only Mutt knows but he doesn't talk
The Rockman x100 just can't be replicated. You can get close, but the cleans are to die for. There is a clone however called the DHS Rockbox. All collecters items.
Anyone have a manual for Rockman2 with adapter 12volt and how can I run it into Amp is it a stereo output headphone so you use a 1/4 headphone to guitar adapter. Please and thank you and another question is it battery powered or just DC 115 to 12volt adapter. Much thanks.
SOMEBODY GET ME AN AUDIOLOGIST! I agree that most sounds on DL albums are excellent. except, Except, EXCEPT..... the backing vocals. There is a distortion in the high end. It follows every album and most tracks. Headphone Hysteria and listen to the backing vocals. Please tell me what you hear. If I don't get any similar responses, I will chalk it up to my own hearing.
still hard for me to wrap my head around the fact that Mutt Lange produced Def Leopard AND Shania Twain (among many others, I know)...talk about musical opposites...
This is so funny!! t Phil is so cool and looks like a regular guy. Whoever this other guy is a regular guy trying so hard to look cool!!! but looks like a real poser!!
That’s like a X1,000,000 that Phil is holding. And it’s just floating around the house. The box that created the soundtrack of my youth and a diamond selling album is in a junk drawer. Amazing.
RIGHT?! I hope he wills it to me 😂
LOL...hilarious...in a junk drawer is right. You envision these rock stars with meticulously organized houses full of stuff then you realize they are like everybody else with their kitchen tools...oh honey where is that certain mixing spoon we used in that other recipe....oh it might be in that junk drawer in the food pantry....LOL It's hilarious when he has to walk around that room looking for this Tom Scholz masterpiece device and well it might be somewhere.
Funny that if he ever needs an extra million dollars... "Honey, let's sell that little plastic box.."
Just shows how laid back and down to earth Phil is
One of the best sounding best mixed albums to come out of the 80’s such good tones and sounds.
Thanks Mutt, Nigel and Mike!
@@JeremyWhiteShow well you haft to thank Tom Scholz too, because most of the sounds came from the Rockman X100
First Tom Scholz writes, plays and records a debut album that is pure gold. Then he proceeds to build a box that gets used to record another monster album. The man is a legend!
The result of an MIT engineer who works at Polaroid with a passion to perfect his music
This is definitely the best rock n roll interview I've ever seen !!! Our favorite guitar hero unearthing THE Rockman and reminiscing about the 80s gear he used for the iconic Hysteria album !!! Wow !!! Phil is awesome !!!!!
This is why I thank God for Tom Scholz........he is most responsible for my favorite music sound.
Boston...Def.....the list goes on!!!!
Would love to interview the man, so much history!
@@JeremyWhiteShow Great interview! I love the Hysteria album a lot. Wicked guitar on it and everything else as well. I still have my Rockman X-100, but it needs fixing. Still looks great on the inside.
Great guitarist, excellent sound, the necessary notes, variety, nice guy... excellent musician.
It’s crazy how amazing that album sounds with that little box of magic! There’s this really special crispness to the sound in the Rockman that is truly special!
Yeaahhh buddy!! And the Rock Box… 🤘🏻
Amen. But it def makes sense freq wise. The Rockman cuts a lot of lows & highs which made room for the other instruments and allowed them too stack lots of guitar parts. But yeah, even the lil built in chorus sounds killer. Tom Scholz def knew his stuff.
The guitar sounds on the track, Hysteria, are absolutely amazing, so melodic, love listening to that tune.
Agreed!! So pleasurable.
Hysteria is like that song that is just so melodic and perfect. It's musical perfection and you realize how masterful they were as musicians. Pyromania and Hysteria are the best one two punch for back to back albums. Pyromania is more raw in my opinion and Hysteria is more melodic and interesting for just a more polished sound in a way but crazy good hooks. Every song on Hysteria is perfect. Pyromania though is amazing also.
very interesting and thanks for having him go into detail about this often-fabeled (and now confirmed) lore from this landmark album!
Thanks bro!
Absolutely awesome!
That's my time in life and I owned a Rockman. The eighties were the best.
Thanks so much 😃
You ask the best questions Jeremy 😁
On the automated EQ thing. Mike Shipley confirmed that he and Mutt used some kind of fancy (potentially prototype) programmable digital graphic EQ to sequence filter changes during mixes. In that instance Mike was referring to using it to tweak a vocal performance so literally every syllable sat in the mix just so (because Mutt being Mutt, perfection is the only suitable outcome). So it’s entirely feasible such EQing was done elsewhere in the mix, but then again it might be just the combination of strummed and picked parts mixed together (as Sav has confirmed for the bridge of ‘Hysteria’ many a time before) that gives it that shimmery tonality.
It’s unlikely to ever happen, but if Mutt Lange ever decided to do a proper full blown interview deconstructing many of his greatest hits, it would be a world shattering event for every audio engineer and producer on the planet….
Love Phil Collen.
Phil is one of the best players out there. He also has a strong understanding of studio dynamics. The studio is such a different world from the live show, that a thing that may sound great in one scenario may not work at all in the other. I've used a Rockman to record as well. They kind of help keep things nice and tidy with the combination of chorus and compression. But live, I could never use one. They sound too compact for a live situation, not open enough. The brilliance of Mutt Lange is that he understands how to layer in a rich texture from different tracks. You mix a clean track with a slightly dirty track, and you get a big, full sound.
I bet there were all kinds of Rockmans on the 80's albums. The distortion was enough for pop rock, and that chorus!
I'm here for this.
Yeaaahhh buddy!!
The 1988 Def Leppard Hysteria tour was the first time I saw them live (in Ottawa), I was 17. What an amazing show and still one of my top-5 ever! The stage in the middle of the arena was an awesome experience, also a first for me. The energy that night was off the charts. The last time I saw DL was in 2019 when they opened for Bon Jovi in Munich. I wanted to leave after their set 😅but my friends convinced me to stay.
Wow amazin you saw Steve tell me about him!!! memories in the round!! Please!
I could listen to these interviews all day.
I’m so glad this channel found me. It’s my new favorite channel. I love all the guitar talk, and the host is great!
Phil is just so cool. Such an underrated player! Great interview
Yea I really like his personality, just so cool and laid back
This guy just went BEHIND the curtain of OZ! Wow, So it was a STOCK x100.... Wow Phil's such a classy guy phenomenal player...he is the 80s guitar sound! Oh yea I got it right here... Smh unreal
What an awesome interview item! ❤❤ great chemistry and I just love them both enjoying the proces and result. Great!
I love the rockman x100 sound on megadeths peace sells and so far so good so what those two albums have my favourite guitar tones
i'm pretty surprised all that sound mostly was that Rockman. that's pretty impressive. i'm sure there's some mixing going on but the basic sound has always impressed me with Hysteria. the thing about Hysteria that made it have such a signature Def Leppard sound to me was how the guitars actually sounded like an animal growling. i can't tell if that was intentional but you hear stuff like the beginning of Rocket or the dive bomb just after the chorus in Hysteria before it's about to go into the duet and you hear this very distinct growl. that tone/sound just added so much depth to that album.
Love Phil Collen, seems like a good bloke in addition to being a beast of a player. Btw if you have a Kemper, producer Mbritt got a rare Rockman stack unit profiled into one of his packs. It is dead on, though the chorus effect cant be profiled with it. But I get cd perfect boston tones and probly these tones as well from it with feedback and everything.
Yup! that's what it took to make that sound on Phil's Gtr. Trk. by recording seperate Trks for the Chiming GTR. of cour the other Gyt Trk was similar but w/ a CHord and Temelo whilke they webt back & forth! Litle different those days vs. today :)
Amazingly cool,thanks for sharing. Ha,I played in a cover band in the 80's using one of those Rockman's permanently duct taped to the back of a Flying V. Hundreds of gigs,all kinds of weather,venues. Never failed-- Ugh,listening back,I hate that chorus.
Just got a Rockman X100 today, original box AND headphones! I can’t attest, this is the exact sound of Hysteria and Boston. It’s wild!
Thanks Jeremy, great interview
Wish I had kept my X100 - they're ridiculously priced now. Great interview Jeremy!
Thanks bud!!
Indeed. Through the ‘90s and early ‘00 they couldn’t give them away at guitar shops and Pawn Shops. They were $50 to $75 and would seat there for months, if not years.
I've always wanted to ask Phil if he still has the Destroyer that he used on Pyromania.
Still got mine...
Phil Collins is looking great. His hair grew back. /s I wish I knew what happened to my Rockman. Bought one when they came out, but somewhere along the way it disappeared... :-(
I just saw this now! Excuse me while I whip out rock n roll history ( that’s just laying around here) holy shit
I wonder what they used live, surely some kind of actual amp. I saw the Adrenaline tour and they sounded great in any case.
Marshall rack mounts, different chorus and delays and Randall power amps!
I put a Rockman ace in front of a Johnson and Def Leppard sound immediately popped out. Really iconic sound. ZZtop used them also. Very distinct and I can hear it on a lot of albums.
I love all the studio trickery to get certain sounds and results. The end being the songs we all come to love and remember. But how all this is pulled off live is a mystery. If it even is.
Somebody needs to do a Robert "Mutt" Lange analysis as a record producer. His style, his albums and how he has worked to shape the sounds of so many great bands.
Jeremy love the jacket interview was great lil late for it but made it
Thanks Tazz!! Cheers 🤘🏻
Andy Summers is now watching all these Leppard interviews ;)
i have 2 of those Gk amps the 250 ML it is simmilar to the tom sholtz sound, pretty 80's but good amps
Im wondering if your talking about the GK amps that were really small with 2 small speakers that was a combo amp that had an awesome chorus sound? I remember seeing those amps at guitar center in chicago when I was teenager, it was an amp I always liked but never bought one.
@@jeffreyklaproth7794 Hi! yes it is those amps, the one Gary Moore used Iron Maiden and so on, there is the 250 ML (combo) and a 250 RL(rack mounted) later they made the 206MLE but they did not become as popular.
Does anyone know if the guitars on Hysteria were mic'd or recorded direct through soundboard?
You should have said, at some point: “Can you repeat that? I didn’t hear you because my outfit is too loud”
😜
Here’s another one: Did that outfit come with an Ox box so you can turn it up to ten?
😜
All kidding aside, love the lighting and the purple foam. Just got my EVH Special in metallic purple and it just smokes. Nice vid!
😂🤣😂 That jacket was actually an homage to his custom painted Jackson’s I had done by Christian Benner! He makes incredible art on jackets. Check out his IG!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Thanks
I have 2 of those but you can't get a huge sound like Leppard out of those boxes alone. there was some Mutt magic put in there on top of it. don't know what it is. lots of overdubs and processing involved maybe. only Mutt knows but he doesn't talk
The Rockman x100 just can't be replicated. You can get close, but the cleans are to die for. There is a clone however called the DHS Rockbox. All collecters items.
I heard that they ran the Rockmans through a Palmer speaker sim and EQd the S*** out of it
And lots of layers and stacks too! Lots of processing in the mix for sure. Automated EQ an what not. BUT! The performances were also perfect…
Anyone have a manual for Rockman2 with adapter 12volt and how can I run it into Amp is it a stereo output headphone so you use a 1/4 headphone to guitar adapter. Please and thank you and another question is it battery powered or just DC 115 to 12volt adapter. Much thanks.
In a world where some people trying to be lazy buggers and use AI to make music, these guys are the true talented artists 🤘🤘❤❤
I still have my x100..rockman..
WOW
That must mean Adrenalize some of Retro Active must be a Rockman IIB Ultralight.
Run These into (2) Tube amps with some dirt and Bang 💣
Mutt Lange was a LAYERING GENIUS.
His strings sounded SUPER buzzy! What's up with that?
Yep.... Looooowwwwwwww action, sounds like. Maybe isn't so audible live, or maybe he picks with less force when actually using the guitar live.
SOMEBODY GET ME AN AUDIOLOGIST! I agree that most sounds on DL albums are excellent. except, Except, EXCEPT..... the backing vocals. There is a distortion in the high end. It follows every album and most tracks. Headphone Hysteria and listen to the backing vocals. Please tell me what you hear. If I don't get any similar responses, I will chalk it up to my own hearing.
Come on Phil Colon.
I have a Rockman Soloist
still hard for me to wrap my head around the fact that Mutt Lange produced Def Leopard AND Shania Twain (among many others, I know)...talk about musical opposites...
Well since Shania was his wife i dont think he had much choice...lol
🔹Rock Man 🔶Tom Scholz ♦BOSTON 🌈☣
Why is that dude dressed up like Ronnie Van Zant?
The interviewer sounds like Jiminy Glick: ruclips.net/video/skoPvB0kUPk/видео.html
I’ll take it as a compliment!
@@JeremyWhiteShow It was meant as one, Martin Short's character cracks me up!
you don't need an amp with speakers to make a hit album just need some talent
BTW Phil, No. The XPR rackmount, was not for YOU.
Marshall stack
This is so funny!! t Phil is so cool and looks like a regular guy. Whoever this other guy is a regular guy trying so hard to look cool!!!
but looks like a real poser!!
Thanks man! Please like and subscribe for more poser content 🤘🏻
Time to act like an adult. Dude
Disliked. It’s not him and you didn’t even get the name or band right.
You are probably thinking "Phil Collins", totally different person ha ha
This is Phil Collen, lead guitar player for English rock band Def Leppard!