Four Reasons I Left Christianity...
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Many people ask why I left Christianity. It was a decision that was anything but easy. The struggle with religion can be one of our most challenging battles. Today, we delve into the profound impact of dogmatic indoctrination, and how it played a pivotal role in my life.. I shed light on my own experiences, in hopes it may help others who are on a similar journey.
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It seems like those of us who were sincere in the church system are the ones that left and deconstructed. Most of the people i met in the church systems were insincere, hypocritical, and yet highly judgemental of others
🎯Ohhhhhh u said it. I say this all the time. Them church ppl be so judgemental and hypocritical it's crazy...
@@k-9inethaboss780 maybe one day they will awaken but the church uses fear to keep them in lies. God's love and goodness always
yep like my "super-christian" brother.. 👽
@@KOZMIK101OFFICIAL I have these religious types in my family also. They're afraid of everything: meditation, subconscious programing, law of attraction geez!! I've learned so much once I deconstructed from the church system
@@seane.9937 I agree 👍 I've learned so much since escaping that former religion. It proved to be nothing more than fear tactics, brainwashing and controlling others. What a croc!
Bro.... grew up a JW... took me 20 years to get my mind right. Love to you man!
There not Christians
@@BoxingSavedMe well they believe in Christ so....
@@adddad9779 yeah in a different one
Me too, also JW
Absolutely different one
Your channel is the first one that taught me about RTS. In my country it´s not even known as a term/diagnosis. An eye opener. I wasn't just a devout christian, I was a pastor. Ater leaving (which took some time) it took me a very long time to heal (there was no support whatsoever) and some things will always be sensitive. The human spirit is so much more than religion. We're totally free allready. Thanks for sharing your message. Lots of love from the Netherlands.
I was scared of going to hell even tho I didn't believe in any of it. The unknown makes you worry like "what if it is real". I eventually got over it but this channel sealed the deal for me that it wasn't a thing.
Religion was important because it's one of the first step to know whose God we should be dealing with. God also commanded to keep His Church always in everyone's watch. So if one sinned, the rest must support and be a brother's keeper. The Church isn't matured yet like a pregnant woman so everyone must keep learning and gathering and endure the world until the 2nd coming. It's written the only thing that makes you guilty is your sin, it happens when you didn't fully abandoned it. Don't lose your soul over wrong view and antichrist teachings.
i was also brought up in a cult, and ive always wondered why i have certain responses in situations, and why i find it hard to keep freinds, well now i know why. religion is a rash on the body of the spirit, you gotta avoid the things that cause it and never go back to it again, thanks for all your work morgue.
isn't morgue a fuckin cult leader tho? what hahahahaha
@@gregorymurphy6115No.
I honestly feel that many folks just don't want to think for themselves. It takes work, time and consciousness. It's easier to just go with the flock. That is one way they get you.
I agree with you. most people just want to trust the government to take care of them , their kids, their grandparents,
you know because the government always wants to best for us. You are right we are little sheeples. Even those hypocrites that say I follow the science, when in reality probably over 90% of their life choices are made by their feelings. That is why our society needs to become like China, sot of like the democrat party in the great USofA,
where everyone has to think the same way or oh boy we'll get the thought police after you, we'll cancel you, we'll
get you fired, if you don't think like us. You are so correct. Are you trying to convert me to Christianity. ? You little devil you.
after 10 years in Jehovah's Witnesses and 7 years in the Pentecostal movement, I can only say that religion makes people hate religion. JV's is a doomsday sect that scares its members with Armageddon etc. and the Pentecostal movement scares with its burning hell.
I have suffered from PTSD for over 40 years now but am getting help through trauma therapy.
Found your channel and I feel "at home" with what you say. 🥰
Because the strategy is also they scare you not to listen to other ( faulse) prophets ,so you don,t dare to think if youre religion is correct or not , such religion is evil itself.Glad you and we here are free consiousness spirits and share real Cristconsiousnees ❤
Those mainstream religion is not about salvation or liberation. It's about control.
God bless you Nike. It's normal to wonder why we had to go through that trauma but there is a silver lining I believe. Those of us who deconstructed are the more spiritual ones now. Idk
Yep. Grew up in the Pentecostal movement, born and raised and knew nothing else. What a joke/croc! I still see some of the same ignorant (dumb like I was) folks giving the same lame praises while still struggling mentally and physically. Haven't changed one bit except for their ages.
You can still believe in Christ, he still loves you, read the real bible and you will find out what's the truth, start with the gospels
Milions of people were/are brainwashed, i was one of them, and luckily i had the same doubts- how loving god- like father- would hurt his children, especialy i remember- those who believed in another god, also would go to hell, and i just knew it didnt make sense, it took me a long time, but i freed myself, and found peace. But what you are doing is so needed, i really appretiate it. I remember when the famous Jane “Nightbirde” Marczewski from ‘America’s Got Talent’ was dying, i sent her a message about Dr Joe Dispenza, who teaches people how to heal cancer,and more, and i healed myself from my health issues, and its wasnt even a miracle,its all science...but Jane,her family were not interested in any other option but only trusting god,and Jesus was supposedto save her. Im not saying one bad word about this beautiful singer, and her family, im pointing only to how much damage religions( not all of them probably) do.
Yep so sad. Beauty of a person and artist. Tragic!
Wow thank you I just looked him up!
Began as a conservative Evangelical 25 years ago, became a traditionalist Catholic 7 years after that, and now (as of December ‘22) am an extremely grateful deconverted pantheist/religious pluralist. Also have extensive religious trauma and suffered considerable spiritual and psychological abuse.
Good for you brother.
Christianity tears families apart, and breaks ppl up.
I was raised deeply Christian conservative, as well. I remember pondering whether or not I’m the only conscious human as a child. I have no idea how I came up with such a profound question but I kept questioning throughout my life. These days I’m a strong proponent of non-duality. Life has blossomed for me because of the realization of my true nature. Everyone is supposed to do this. Religion needs to be dropped because it only causes conflict. Non-duality can be seen as fact when you actually look inside yourself. You actually see the living Truth.
Thank you for the mention of non-duality. I am also on a journey, like so many others, and have never heard of non-duality. I am researching/meditating about it. Thanks again for your sharing. 🙂
@@melodys.portlandoregon556 You’re welcome! The non-duality journey is the craziest thing I’ve ever encountered but I wouldn’t change any of it if there was an ‘I’ here to do it! Once I saw fully what ‘we’re all one’ really means, life completely changed!
@@Cheese-is-its-own-food-group ♥
@hollowvegeta9172 it makes life infinitely easy. It’s beautiful.
If we should dropped it because generates conflict we should do the same with almost everything, the Truth brings conflict always, its not a reason to stop believing.
I left Christianity too. I grew up from a Catholic family, and went Sunday school learning the church teachings. But since I was 18 years I ended up in Europe for work and it took me almost 10 years. That whole time I got a chance to met people from all walks of life. Especially from Israel , different beliefs. Muslims, Buddhism and etc..but I still can't get the fact that is all different in many ways. So I questions every beliefs and found out that no one is certain in their own ways..so I did a few researches and concluded that I still believe that there's a creator but I will never believe in religion and how it all unfold around the world...Religion to me is just the same as a business and it is all about Control and power to control people with limit access to knowledge and wealth...
So now I'm a free person from Religion and Christianity.
Thank you for every video. It really plays a big part in my belief.
Now it's time to get back into Christianity, my Christianity that is.
Google 'papaSon academia' click the first link that pops us and read the paper titled "SUMER." Everything will be explained.
P.s youtube does not permit me to post pdf
Hearing about this type of upbringing always breaks my heathen mom heart. 💔 I’ll support you and this work forever. 🖤
I can vividly remember the crushing pressure of the first time I was told as a kid that I wasn't good enough. It was at a Vacation Bible School I begged to go to with my friend. My mom had already been through religious abuse so she said no at first but it sounded so fun. It was made just for kids and there would be people there. I was an only child who lived in the country. We spent a lot of our time away from home so that we could be around people.
The pastor had the older kids stay behind. I was somewhere between 7 and 9. The theme was the Good News Corral or something Western with a name close to that. He told us about two roads that we had to choose right now. If we wanted to go down the road that led to Heaven or Hell. If we decided to get saved you went up in front of everyone and repeated the sinners prayer. I was sick at my stomach and so torn between preserving my dignity and avoiding hell. I ended up staying in my seat that time but I teared up. I was absolutely horrified. Then in my second year of high school when life was finally working out for me. I was scared into a more strict sect of Christianity by a message so scary it made the first experience with Christianity look like a kitten.
I hope you dont believe in that crap anymore. The hell doctrine was probably invented by the church a few hundred years b.c.
Think about it this way. If there is a God who did create all the people on Earth. Why would he do so if he sent most of them in to eternal damnation and suffering?
Its insane.
In Christianity you are not a divine soul, you are a sinner very much segregated! In Buddhism you are the little Buddha and soon to becomes a perfected Buddha! Never segregated and perfected Buddhas are not overlords and never determines what your fates will be! And yet it is our perfected Teacher's of all time that we can ever imagined. Takes full refuge in the triple jewels and vowed to be a perfected Buddha one day in the future time! You will never never left out of your wish. Because that is what perfected Bodhisattvas and Buddhas also vowed and willing to accomplished your wishes! Guaranteed! Namo Buddhaya Namo Dharmaya Namo Sanghaya. Namo Amitabhaya 🙏 🙏 🙏
I abandoned religion when I was 15 for the same reason, it just don't add up. Another thing they don't practice what they preach but wants you to practice what they preach. Good work man keep it up.
It’s unfortunate that religious communities aren’t infiltrated by theologians who bring logic and reason into their communities. Many churches have done a lot of good and charitable work but it comes at the cost of mind control, to children at a young age that interfere with their ability to make rational decisions. They carry that with them into adulthood. That’s why we have people watching tic toc and that’s causing adult illiteracy. We need more more philosophers and anthropologists. People who can read 300 pages of a book before they go to bed. I read contracts, know alot about contract law and even legal books are written and structured like the Bible. Reading a bible can prepare you for legal research. But it seems like people are becoming more illiterate. So, all I really wanna say is if you read a book like “the secrets of mental math”, it will teach you to be a better problem solver. If you read a book like “a concise introduction to logic” it will help you become better at proving a point or getting us closer to what’s true. The miracles may exist in the next life or in this life depending on the way you define “miracle”. I think people themselves are miracles. To quote Shakespeare ~ “What a piece of worke is a man! How Noble in reason! How infinite in faculty! In forme and mouing how expresse and admirable! In Action, how like an Angel in apprehension, how like a God! The beauty of the world, the paragon of animals-and yet, to me, what is this quintessence of dust? Man delights not me- nor woman neither, though by your smiling you seem to say so.’’ 17:00
Logic is the way to The Truth.
The biggest lie is that both sides (religious & nonreligious) are both right & wrong. Choose the middle road and be free. Rather than choosing trying to disprove another's beliefs instead try to prove them right, this is the way to the truth for either side of the argument. Follow logic and you will walk in god's footsteps. Do not view time as a linear construct, time only exists in that form from our perspective stuck in a mortal body/single dimension.
When you come to the conclusion that all is of one mind, one body, and one spirit... being good/well intentioned to yourselves (and each other) is the only sensible choice. Remember who you are.
Darkness itself could not exist without light to cast a shadow, light requires nothing to exist and so light precedes darkness. Light always was, always is, and always will be.
God does not require worship, god requires nothing. Anything claiming the contrary is a falsehood only designed to lead you into darkness. I wish I could be less ambiguous but most are not ready to receive the plain and simple truth. Perfect understanding will cast out all hatred, anger, and malice from your hearts.
❤❤❤ Same for me Morgue...spent years trying to undo the trauma.And I'm very happy doing the research.I just don't listen to Churches or Preachers or Zealots
Christians is why I left Christianity, it's a beautiful book, but many of people who claim to follow it, are the furthest thing from it,
.... thanks for sharing your experience
May I ask which beautiful Bóók you're talking about?❤
Beautiful my ass, it’s a book that traumatizes and controls people. It’s done way more harm than good
Christians are why I left Christianity but the other reason is because it is not a beautiful book. You cannot be in the bible every day and not be fundamentally changed by horror stories of abuse, incest, sacrifice, r*pe, war, etc.
Did you ever get to know the Christ. To me you speak such truth and Yeshua did that too. You and Jesus Have a lot of similarities. I like and love you both!!! Thanks for sharing and helping so many get set free from that religious spirit.
Bro I am so sorry that Christianity caused you so much harm. I am a Christian and I assure you that at times I felt your pain during this video and it moved me honestly. I luckily live and growed up in a situation very different than yours and one of the reasons I am Christian in fact is that the people around me where really empathetic and caring which is something important no matter your faith (more than any "intellectual" reasons to believe honestly, which I have just like you nonetheless). I hope God will bless you and your family even if you don't believe.
My friend, the problem is much deeper:
1 What kind of a demand is it to have to accept Jesus as a god, when he just appeared one time, only to a few people, telling them he is the only true god? And that 295k years after we humans came up and in a very small area while the rest of the Earth was already full of people? Around 55 billion people never had even the chance to know him. Till today 2/3 of the world population isnt following him as they were socialized in other religions and they wont betray their gods for a "god" that didnt even talk to their folk.
2 A good god?
There is huge animal suffering and struggle for survive every single day.
Of course thats not because of human “sin” or human “free will”:
Animals existed millions of years before humans came up.
If god created those animals, they suffered and suffer because of him.
3 The strikt anti-scientific postion of the abrahamic religions agaisnt homosexuality , a natural heathy born orientation with an evolutionary meaning, is no longer acceptable.
This are only 3 of the more profound reasons why people leave Christianity (and hopefully also Islam).
As a Deist myself I send you a lot human love :)
I totally feel the same. Thank you, @Morgue. ❤
It got me almost crazy. All the false underlying things in the darkness of Christianity ❤
You are right, Christianity has twisted the true message of Christ and has made the world insane. I was one of them. Awaking from the religious matrix is mind-blowing and incredibly freeing. I am now more aware of the "Father/God/Source/Eternal consciousness etc.) being at one with me but without the religious baggage. The true spiritual journey starts outside of religion, not within it.
By the way, I do see CLEARLY that you have and feel the true "Holy Spirit" in/as you. I see "the fruits of the spirit" in you, I see how it is changing you. It's what's driving you to do the work you're doing. It's the LOVE & desire you have to help free people and change the world for the better. In fact, you feel and have it more than others I have seen. You will continue to do even greater work for the good of all! May you grow in freedom, light, and LOVE my brother!
Peace
Guess you have never heard the phrase "bloviated sophistry".
@@downenout8705 Are you saying that I'm a bloviated sophist or directing it towards "religion"?
Peace
I’m a new Christian. It seems to me that the various churches are the biggest obstacles to people connecting with the teachings of Jesus. So far my journey has been mostly solitary, sticking to the true messages of caring for my fellow man and always telling the truth. Jesus specifically warns us that the people in positions of power are almost always our enemies lol
If a belief system cannot confront ALL questions by skeptics then it is illegitimate imo. I was a life long atheist so I’ve approached Christianity with such skepticism.
My friend, the problem is much deeper:
1 What kind of a demand is it to have to accept Jesus as a god, when he just appeared one time, only to a few people, telling them he is the only true god? And that 295k years after we humans came up and in a very small area while the rest of the Earth was already full of people? Around 55 billion people never had even the chance to know him. Till today 2/3 of the world population isnt following him as they were socialized in other religions and they wont betray their gods for a "god" that didnt even talk to their folk.
2 A good god?
There is huge animal suffering and struggle for survive every single day.
Of course thats not because of human “sin” or human “free will”:
Animals existed millions of years before humans came up.
If god created those animals, they suffered and suffer because of him.
3 The strikt anti-scientific postion of the abrahamic religions agaisnt homosexuality , a natural heathy born orientation with an evolutionary meaning, is no longer acceptable.
This are only 3 of the more profound reasons why people leave Christianity (and hopefully also Islam).
As a Deist myself I send you a lot human love :)
I was raised catholic started questioning around the same age as you and left the Catholic Church at 18. I went to church almost everyday for youth group, retreats, catechism, confirmation, all of the above, all of it was branded into my brain and I’ve struggled with letting it go it’s gotten a lil easier but I catch myself thinking oh no is god gonna be mad at me for making this decision. Literally caught myself thinking of it rn as I’m typing this out it’s been hard letting it go and worrying about the fear of going to hell that was also my biggest issue with the catholic religion, it instilled a lot of fear in my life ever since I was a kid I’ve always lived in fear and I’m tired of living in fear. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to suffering great saying by yoda, and I ain’t trying to live like that no more. Im ready to be free from the fears of that religion. I just wanna live a peaceful life and know not everything is gonna be peaceful in life because it’s life but it’s one step closer to peace and that’s alright. I’m not gonna raise my future kids in that lifestyle I’m gonna raise them to be good moral human beings and teach them to respect others and to defend people who can’t defend themselves we need more good people in this world. I’m 25 now and slowly getting free from the fear
Awesome video! Thanks for being so candid about your experience.
Thank you 4 ur opinion its so lovely to see ppl actually asking the questions no one wants to talk about as it is such sensitive subject and all structured religions is difficult 4 me to wrap my mind about. As i grew u stonshly muslim and nw am agnostic trying to find why we are here.
You can find the answer in the Bible, the real word of God.
You can find it in the Quraan , Injiel, Torah and the Bible with humble response i hv found good values in them all bt the cnfusion lies in man. If you look at earth its beautiful bt its not so beautiful 4 the begger on the street or those who want to exscape dis hell they use illegal substances. Something is rong and we should seek the truth not for ourselves but for those who are struggling. The word should be peace and the word should be strength bt we cnt choose wat is in the holy text and leave oit the rest as it does not sut us.
@@zainab5674 you can't find it in the Quran and injiel, Bible is very clear with the fact that there will be no more prophets after John the Baptist and that even if an angel proclaim any other gospel will be cursed . And about the truth, there is a problem there, because even if we don't like it it's still true, as you can't read the Constitution of any country and say, Im not gonna follow these rules because they don't suit me, you can't say to God, you know what I know that you are God but still I don't believe you are right just because you don't like his rules. Don't let the devil tempt you into this escape from God.
@@ChristianAnimator oh well than if u read carefully we all going to hell than. Shhh dnt say Nabi Isa(as) name saved u. In the word u will still be punishished even those who pretend to be perfect bt are fake or over the top. Thats y u never agree or aknowledge, love and care for ppl who are different in their believes.
@@zainab5674 I'm catholic I know that saying that Jesus is the savior won't save me, but in the Bible says that trying to convert a person is love. Leaving them in their error is not what you are supposed to do. Love is not please everyone, love is also the truth, that's why Christ said that he didn't come to bring peace, but conflict, because truth always creates conflict. You can still get on the right path.
Thank you for this message. It met me where I am.
I Got Completely And Utterly Emotional From Watching The Video Because I Can Absolutely Relate Since I Have Both Religious Trauma Syndrome And Cult Trauma Syndrome I Am So Broken And Damaged From All Of The Trauma That I Have Been Through And I'm Never Ever Going To Be Fixed Due To Religion And Religious People I Just Hope That I Can Find Some Help To Cope With It And I Feel Like I Will Have A Mental Breakdown Sometime Soon And I Don't Know What I Should Do I Totally Need Some Advice On What I Could Do For The Trauma That I Have Been Struggling With I Have Been Suffering For Way Too Long And I Know That It's Probably Going To Keep On Just Getting Worse Instead Of Better If I Don't Get Any Sort Of Treatment For The Trauma
Back in the mid 1980's, I was invited to a "Church" in upstate NY, which, after being there for a while, it became very psychologically destructive. They taught the "6000 year old earth" kind of theories which, I know to be wrong (read any scientific book on Cosmology), but was pressured to accept. They also kept you on a thin line between maintaining and losing salvation, so you were constantly worried about ending up in the lake of fire. I had to leave this place as it was using this fear to control their followers. Internally, this set up a strong repulsive (defensive) barrier for those trying to lure me into any kind of religious organization (this still persists), although churches want to tear down this barrier. Inner turmoil over this lasted for decades, and I finally had sort out what parts of Christianity were good teachings, and which ones were corrupt teachings (with corrupt I mean that someone created a belief or fear that they try to force on others to manipulate for their own benefit). I also have issues with the current corrupt political systems, that force you to work so you can feed in part of your paycheck to it, allowing it to continue to go on. Then it devalues any savings by inflation, money printing, to ensure you can never break free from it. Almost seems like a beast that keeps people chained to itself to prevent them from reaching their true potential. Quite a horrible disposition.
Wow, I've felt the same since 1997 when I escaped a fundamentalist church.
Wow! Wow!!! A million times Wow!! It seems you were describing my feelings and experiences of anguish and fear of hell and not feeling "the presence" of Jesus or the holy spirit and feeling guilty for my sexuality. I am pretty sure I suffer from religious trauma syndrome and I'd love if you could share some ideas on how to completely heal from it if that's even possible. I still feel there's some traces of all the fear I felt while being religiously abused for more than 20 years. Thank you ❤
That completes me and why I find studying Christianity to be interesting to me because I hate to hear myself talk, and also I would like to get aware as soon as their is some percieved or real flaw in what interests me to think along with many of the basic thoughts of a Christian, it is pleasant to be kind.
Funnily enough my experience with religion wasn't awful.
I was raised Catholic and attended a Nun School for most of my life, but contrary to the norm, they were very lax, accepting, open-minded and well intentioned. I truly believe most of them truly had a calling and it showed through their kindness...
But after a few years and after seeing humanity for myself and learning about as much as I could in different topics (history, filosophy, art, religion, etc.) I "fell out of love" with Christianity and Institutional Religions at large.
I consider myself agnostic at the moment and I try learning as much of other religions as possible, but in an academical way.
It is my opinion that people should have something to believe in, anything, it doesn't matter what od you pray to as long as you have something to look up to and makes you strive to be a better person; after all, a life without direction is very hollow and meaningless, in a way.
And when I talk about belief I mean ANY belief, science, ethics, religions, filosophy, whatever.
One should find what one can use to be better and look up to.
But one should be weary of the fine line that separates a belief serving you... and you serving a belief; because then it becomes zealotey and dogma.
I'm a Catholic and I disagree with just about everything you said. According to your thinking one should follow any belief, even if it's false, as long as it makes you a better person. How can a false belief make someone a better person?
Merry Christmas, I dont have à problem with Christianity, it works quite well for me personally, but Im pretty much à solitary Christian, I dont associate with many people.
It was Bible schools and things like that for me growing up and I completely understand where you're coming from and I am 100% agree with everything that you're saying right now because it just I don't know some of it doesn't make sense and it didn't for a long time for me and I'm really glad that I have someone like you to listen to and do the research that you do I listen to your videos daily and it's something that has become part of my life and I also look into a lot of the same things that you do research on and no I'm not that fast in it I am just a beginner but I have feel like one time I thought what is wrong with this religion like maybe there is religion that makes sense maybe there's something more to this maybe I'm getting it wrong is there something that I'm missing well I guess it took me quite a long time to finally realize that there are many things that I wasn't meant to understand because they made it that way and there are a lot of things that were doctored and changed and mistaken for what was true and I think that is what a lot of people believe today is the problems that we face on a daily basis when it comes to plagues and war and peace not having peace and things like that are really based off how everyone just lives in this modern-day society and I'm nowhere near perfect and trust me I am not 100% accurate on the things that I know because I'm not getting 100% accurate information and that is probably not my fault but at the same time don't ever quote what I say is 100% accurate because I go based off what I feel or basically what I'm being taught and so that was the biggest mistakes for me growing up is maybe thinking one way and life in general being one one-sided or one direction and I really should have looked at things all around and kind of took it for what it was worth and maybe looked for the bigger picture but I'm glad that I'm doing it now and no none of this is facts that I'm saying and none of this is literally fact but it's based off what my personal experience is and maybe someone else might agree with me as far as how they feel but it's just how I feel
Rely on your reason not your feelings or beliefs. Trust yourself. You are not an evil sinner like you may have been told.
It's okay to search for the answers to your questions. It's ok if you find out that you're wrong, it's ok if you find out that you're correct. For many of us who left very emotionally manipulating faith groups, these issues appear to us more easily. It doesn't look like abuse, i didnt consider myself abused at the time. I loved God with everything in me. Until the questions began to appear and i realized it wasnt what i thought it was at all. I left when i was 28. I am now 60 and have struggled with the toxic ideas i was indoctrinated in all my life. I have spent the last three yrs seriously concentrating on my deconstruction/conversion
spiritual abuse “is when a spiritual leader-such as a pastor, elder, or head of a Christian organization-wields his position of spiritual authority in such a way that he manipulates, domineers, bullies, and intimidates those under him, as a means of accomplishing what he takes to be biblical and/or spiritual goals.”
Good Show. Didn't it say somewhere that a day for God is a thousand years?
Bravo well stated for encouraging honest higher learning no matter what perspective one comes from. One should always leave the door open for an impressionable child to be free. I really loved your take on the good teacher that encourages others to bypass their level of education.
I was raised catholic and it totaly broke my heart when i learned the truth. My whole life i was lied to 😢.
Thank you for your content ❤❤❤
What was the truth ??? Maybe I can clarify them for you
You're still being lied to.
Yeah, like you really know the truth now. Sounds to me like it were the very lies you think are the truth, that pulled you out of the truth of Catholicism.
@@ChristianAnimatorget outta here your not welcome. These people including myself suffer trauma and your not going to help matters.
@@MartinMeshiathat person is now free from a horrible cult. They are not still being lied to .
Thank you for what you do. I'm Wiccan and proud it.
Follower of Jesus Christ here. I find this subject fascinating.
Just a few observations.
I've listened to a lot of deconstructionists on RUclips and have read many of the comments made by other deconstructionists. A very common thread that nearly all deconstructionist exhibit is that they became Christians at a young age, had a religious household, and were members of a very dogmatic authoritarian church, or of a Pentecostal bent of some sort.
Also, most deconstructionists appear to have been taught bad theology; eg. young earth, anti science, and other non biblical ideas that are meant to create an us versus them attitude amongst the particular church's adherents.
I have never heard of a deconstructionist who became a believer later in life (as an adult) who then deconstructed. Not saying that there aren't any, just never encountered one.
I grew up in a "Christian" household and church, but was allowed and encouraged to have questions. My church is nondenominational yet holds to orthodox Christian beliefs, it does not teach whacky, extra biblical ideas; such as a distrust of science.
BTW, I am now 66 years old, I am perfectly at ease in my faith and I don't feel at all threatened or alarmed by those who don't believe as I do; even former believers. However, I am saddened by the harm done to you folks by the many manipulative folks in the church, who due to their apparent lack of true faith, have wounded so many.
My friend, the problem is much deeper:
1 What kind of a demand is it to have to accept Jesus as a god, when he just appeared one time, only to a few people, telling them he is the only true god? And that 295k years after we humans came up and in a very small area while the rest of the Earth was already full of people? Around 55 billion people never had even the chance to know him. Till today 2/3 of the world population isnt following him as they were socialized in other religions and they wont betray their gods for a "god" that didnt even talk to their folk.
2 A good god?
There is huge animal suffering and struggle for survive every single day.
Of course thats not because of human “sin” or human “free will”:
Animals existed millions of years before humans came up.
If god created those animals, they suffered and suffer because of him.
3 The strikt anti-scientific postion of the abrahamic religions agaisnt homosexuality , a natural heathy born orientation with an evolutionary meaning, is no longer acceptable.
This are only 3 of the more profound reasons why people leave Christianity (and hopefully also Islam).
As a Deist myself I send you a lot human love :)
@@user-hr8dx9qw4n The Bible teaches that God is a god of justice, everyone has the opportunity to yield to God wherever and whenever on the planet earth they lived.
Regarding death and suffering; there are things worse than death. Physical death is a natural process.
There are many misunderstandings of what the Bible actually teaches. Unfortunately most people will read their biases into it.
@@LTD99649 - "The Bible teaches that God is a god of justice"
@@user-hr8dx9qw4n Who gave you the authority, or even the supposed ability to judge what is good versus what is not good?
@@LTD99649 Thats easy according to your religion:
Laws and other indications in the Pentateuch and the rest of the Bible make it clear not only that cruelty to animals is forbidden but also that compassion and mercy to them are demanded of man by God.
BUt animals , if they are created by god, are suffering in the most cruel way every day and that since 3,7 billion years before we humans came up. They are suffering because of the way that god created them.
God shows no mercy on them in this life and as he didnt give them a soul there will be also after death nothing for them (accoirding to your religion).
Here is no escape for your religion my friend.
my husband used spiritual abuse to manipulate and guilt me into not divorcing him - twisted alot of scripture and told me I was a SINNER and that God would punish me. It really messed with my head and it was horrible. He told me Eve was made for Adam not the other way around and thus I must submit to him, etc and let him control everything even down to what I eat and weigh.
Hope he's an "ex" now 🙏
many blessings
You should do a video showing how all the prophecies of the bible never came to pass like you said. The bible does say if a prophecy does not come to pass then the one who proclaimed it is a false prophet. Once you clearly show that they never happened then the bible will condemn itself.
Deconstruction from Christianity seems to be the theme in the purpose of my life so far, I felt lost for a really long time and didn't actually fully step away until my 33rd birthday...the entire year before, I engrossed myself in everything Jesus and knew that he was helping me leave religion, he led me away from the belief in hell and the devil and I instantly felt lighter....of coarse it was way more than than but I like to tell people I found Jesus and left religion if they ask questions because making them go down the rabbit hole when they aren't ready never felt right. Cognitive dissonance is real
The more you study the Bible and the 1st century social, economic, political, and religious thinking looking for objective facts and truth with an unbiased mind, the more you understand the evolution of Christianity. The more you learn that it consists of smoke and mirrors and wishful thinking.
If you believe Jesus is God, newsflash, you are religious by definition
Exactly what has happened to me thus far. I have been studying Judaism and all that and clearly Christianity did a real good job at indoctrinating the world.
33rd birthday, huh? Oooookay.
I was a Christian for 30 years, I went thru a phase of hideous fundamentalism. Im permanently damaged mentally as a result. Deconstruction and deconverting was a painful experience but I am better for it.
Once I realized how stupid, timid, and dependent God made us that's when things shifted for me.
I did an experiment of not praying or reading the Bible yet putting in all my efforts to get ahead of my finances and goals. Turns out better things happened to me when I stopped. One of my Baptist friends kept saying when I talked about my accomplishments " glory to God hw is so good ". I'm thinking...wait...I did all the work lol. The less problems I had the more we had less in common because he still God's sheep with constant depressing conversations . He became toxic I had to block him.
I just tell my Christian friends to be careful and I'm always there if they have doubts or concerns..
I have seen a ufo 300 feet in front of my face. It was hovering above a tree making very little noise. The tree itself was not blowing back and forth. It was in the shape of a rectangle with no wings blueish white circles of light underneath. Not aerodynamic at all kinda like a flying dump truck or mobile home.
Any religion is a good tool to overcome trauma , however we have need to recognise the fact that all religion is made. The next step for the human civilisation in evolution is spiritual awakening. We have endless power within us that we’ve barely discovered.
Some true believer could explain to us how Balaam's Donkey story in Numbers makes any sense . . . I mean, other than as an unmarked fable.
Even if you assume the talking donkey is a miracle of God, according to the story, even Balaam himself does not think it was miraculous at all. Instead, he reacts like a talking donkey is totally normal, like it happens every day. He even insults and then threatens his 'miraculous' donkey.
The story reads just like a fable of old which often had talking animals. And just like in a fable it doesn't have to make sense since you just play along with the make believe parts for fun.
But if the Balaam's Donkey story is an unmarked fable it begs the question: what else in the Bible is unmarked fable, myth, legend or metaphor? Maybe a lot. Maybe most of it.
Just wondering but why do it the like button before he gets on with the topic? How would you know if you like it before you hear the content?
This is why men mansplain. You like the video beforehand because if you're a follower of "whoever", you like them, you want them to succeed and do well. Knowing that likes effect metrics, which makes content creators either more or less visible on their platform, you like the content to support them. Whether or not you like the specific video has nothing to do with it.
You can always unlike it if you change your mind
This is incredibly sensible stuff, thank you. Your explanation on how to talk to young people is spot on.
You have very good points. I love your videos and I appreciate the amount of effort you put into them to enlighten people to leave this horrible religion for their own good.
Hi Mr. Morgue, First of all I'd like to congratulate you for not hesitating to be yourself. You're a brave individual. Second, I'm glad that you are honest and is not ashamed to admit that you might be wrong. I believe I understand your emotions. I grew up in a Hindu household ( I'm 13 now), at the age of 11 I started to edge towards Christianity and was a a very God fearing person and criticised Satanists and atheists. But after I turned 12 i began to analyse the scriptures of lot of religions including Hinduism, Christianity, Greek, Muslim and Norwegian. I concluded that most of these scriptures were false, I might be wrong but right now I believe so. Now, I'm 13 and I'm an agnostic, self worshiper and Slender worshipper . I revealed it at school recently and now everyone criticises me for my convictions, but I'm alright. You're a great person Mr. Morgue, i support you and admire you a lot, please keep up your good work Sir.
Love you my friend you are a guiding light to so many,I followed you on my superdad falcon profile on RUclips,I created this RUclips to spread my self awareness of self music to awaken those to there inner flame,most of my Devine music is on instagram but slowly converting most of that music of divinity infinite of unity here, I really appreciate you as a soul awakening those to true reality neogenians ♾️
I loved the video especially the positive message at the end! I also think Jesus meant (if he existed, which is fairly irrelevant) that we all are sons and daughters of God, and the kingdom of heaven is a place on earth for us to create.
Man I wasn’t a Christian. The whole life I was living in sin. didn’t believe that God exist. But the day when I got tired of my lifestyle I was seeking someone who’s more powerful. And he heard me and washed away my sins he’s the most High and his name is lifted up and bigger than all names he’s the one who saves and forgives Jesus Christ. He loves you and waits for you. I was seeking happiness in this world and I found a truth happiness in Jesus Christ. It’s always a choice to follow God or no if it was a forced decision to follow God then it’s not Love. But slavery but he’s desires to have an relationship with each person and so everyone would not person but live everlasting life with him in his Glory and we decide follow him or live our own life without God.
Dude this guy is on here telling you he was abused by a religious family and here you are trying to continue the abuse... is that what jesus would do? Force himself on people who don't want him? Just because this guy has different beliefs does not make him evil or any less-than. This guy is doing exactly what jesus asked people to do... leave him alone. Be open minded, you might learn something from him.
Loving God and following the example of Jesus Christ is a different thing than religion. You don't have to belong to a religion to serve God. In fact I recommend you stay out of religion and seek the God presence within you. Religion is a business concerned with money. Loving God and Jesus is not religion.
@@seane.9937 well said
@@whiteglovestudio I'm glad these truths are manifesting more and more lately. God's love and goodness always
There is no god
Anything that tried to control you through the use of fear tactics for example burning for eternity in Hell or not having eternal life...well right there you can see the energy of this is Fear not Love...I think just about everyone you ask would agree that God is Love no matter what they call their God so why is it so hard for them to understand that the energy of Love doesn't operate in the frequency of Fear???????
Big hugs, has it takes time to unwind from the things that you have been taught and learn how to test them safely without religious persecution.❤
I am just curious what you think about the millions of near deat experiences that say they went to hell and the similarities are so crazy? Thanks !
RUclips is ridiculous placing latter day saint ads on your channel.
I wish I had friends irl who agreed with most of these points
Same situation
Thank you, from the author of The African Holistic Motivational Healing Guide
Bruh... I feel you soo much. I have Catholic upbringing and, ngl, it traumatized me, too. As much as it hurts my psyche, I do perceive good things that came from my religion. I mean, my moral values are quite stable - that's because in my childhood I felt confident for naturally wanting to be soft, modest, and chaste goody-two-shoes person. I still believe in God, I just think that he's grey, imperfect, that he can also do mistakes, be angry, be sad, just like us.
Your opinion about Jesus, that he wanted to show that every human can be divine too, is soo ambiguous...
I'm sticking to my own interpretation, that Jesus just wanted to lead by his own example of how to be a genuinely compassionate and merciful person. That empathy, love, acceptance is the right way. Truly, Jesus was a nicest and chillest dude in the world, that's it. If everyone is similar to him, whether for being religious or having a high emotional intelligence, then that person is near to God. The problem is that being a good person is not that simple in this cruel world, so everyone must find their own way of how to reach it. Ofc, my way is studying psychology - that's how I can explain myself why I do wrong things and what should I do about it.
Thank you for sharing your story.
Dude I think you're awesome and my mom is just in love I know you have a good heart because you care about other people
I've been watching many of your videos and for some reason i felt terrified. And had nightmares two nights in a row :') in another video you said Yahweh isn't God and i looked deeper into it and it somehow made sense but i started feeling opressed.. like literally going into a nervous breakdown. Why?
you are told by the people around you, brainwashed that's its either Jesus or something totally terrifying that you are believing in or praying to something like a very ugly monster who is waiting for your blood in hell.
Thanks for your input, it is a miracle that you got aware of the programming...
You are a truth seeker helping others in need!
Just came across you. A lot of your story is mine. Ty for sharing.
Thomas twin doubting...truth Seeker
Church praise and worship music just induces emotionalism
I am a Christian and I completely agree
I was taught that eternity has a number. That is truth taught to me by family. There is a number to eternity.
What did you smoke in your pipe when you wrote that?
Thankfully i had a dad and brother who look out for me who were both athiest. They were both no nonsense kinda men. So i really wasn’t allowed to talk back. It helped me to learn how to help others & do my part and be responsible.
But i don’t wanna be too responsible because i’m hoping i can have a husband someday
the self expression creativity thing is so true i felt like i couldnt draw certain things because of my religion and i felt like i was walking on eggshells, for example dragons and snakes were considered demonic so some of the people would look at me weird for what i draw, i always felt and still feel like theres eyes on me every time i post because everyone in my family is christian
I am loving your teachings❤T.hank you❤
i dont disagree. but i also dont despise christianity because some people do need it. believing in Jesus or Buddha is better than non-belief. being an awakened being is better than being religious. but how many people are really ready for awakening?
I always rejected being a Christian. I would say I am a follower of Christ, which I guess makes me a Christian. But I am very open minded and think doe myself.
They are not sheep. They resonate with the truth.
I really appreciate you opening up about this. Many of us are recovering from religious trauma and abuse, but after a person educates themselves a bit, its hard "not" to see Christianity for what it is. I've had similar experiences as you growing up and deconstructing from it all has been quite the process. I highly recommend buddhist teachings to aid in the process. Christianity fails to give a sense of self worth, not to mention any degree of self knowledge. It reduces a person to a fear driven narcissist who somehow finds begging synonymous with prayer. The God of the Bible never seemed like an enlightened, kind, loving (or even emotionally mature diety) at all. It's the oldest form of fear based mind control I can think of. A how to guide on how to reduce a divine being into an obedient slave.
I remember watching a video call a wiccan walk through the Bible it put my experience in Christianity in perspective.
Great video, very truthful. Thank you for sharing. Xx
Because it's man made
So is a Cup.
Maybe also because women make stuff too
@@giuseppeLizzi-rj3ernot as bad as this particular subject
So is mathematics. Religion is a coherence theory of truth (with its corollary; degrees of truth) as opposed to a correspondence theory. So, the test for religious truth is comprehensiveness and internal consistency. It's up to you as what to believe. A religious worldview is totally incompatible with a scientific worldview, so we shouldn't cross language games. A sceptic is not being phobic.
@@joefearn9694 nah. Maths is the codification of tangible things. The Bible is origins of Earth fanfiction.
I guess it does become confusing when it doesn’t let you live comfortable in your sin
Mon-ah-tur-ing = Monitoring😅 I totally felt you there haha! I have the same problem sometimes lol
Edit: you are very intelligent I can tell!
I am Catholic baptised and had my full education in Catholic schools, so I feel offended when I hear people attack the Catholic religion to 'defend' their own religious (or anti-religious) standpoint/church. I like Catholicism because of the RICH culture - the music, the paintings, the Latin that gives everything a sacred vibe. I think that they have changed history several times to keep the idea of having a designed future, but the 60% average (between the 20% upper and the 20% lowest) is still the majority. I worked on a model that has more flexibility to understand the normal, but therefore not the mainstream trends and called it *the ka-ba-la:*
ka = female & spiritual, the Teacher, Source => Consciousness
ba = male & material, the Master, God => Identity
la = body (~ ba) & nobody (~ ka), the Student, Ego (an external ego ~ ba + an internal ego ~ ka) => Facade (ba) & Worth (ka)
If one would use the image of a house to describe the 'levels', ka is the attic, ba is the basement (foundation) and la is everything in between. In Duch (my mother tongue), we speak about a 'boven' (above) bewustzijn and an 'onder' (below) bewustzijn. God is the Master of masters or the King of kings => that proves that He is part of the ba instead of the ka. I wrote in my manuscript (Words are like water, they can take any form ...) that man has the power to maintain a certain situation, but the women have the strength to CHANGE what serves us no longer. Knowledge is only real when shared and every attempt to keep knowledge hidden ended in a catastrophe. Nobody can teach you a lesson, but within each lesson lies the price to learn ...
The Christian walk is not an easy walk, but there is no room to quit because what do you expect, its eternity with God as a child of God. There is no greater blessing than that. 80 years is not a long time compared to eternity, that is why God makes things hard for His believers because to test a 80 year old for billions of years, that has got to be tough to stay persistent and consistent. Do not hate God for it but embrace it because faith is beautiful when its done prop3erly and the mind is focused on God. Its the only way we can be suited for eternity. God can change our circumstances and "manipulate" the surroundings but He cant make someone focused on Him. If he could everyone would be Christian.
Agnostic is the most honest way to be agnosticism can be summed up in four simple words I do not know
Doubt is an uncomfortable position certainty is a ridiculous one
So there can be religious minndsets within Christian culture. Though i think part of what youre highlighting is calls to be 'set alart' and look to 'repent' we're acknowledging that we're but its not through good works we're saved. Romans 3:23. I can understand the concerns about folk being martyred, and sadly in Revelation we're told hell wasnt meant for humans. Im Christian but dont call myself religious far from it, you can be authentic. I can testify however that the Holy Sprit is real, my spouse was healed in a worship service :)
You have a lovely heart that wants to help, I can clearly see it. Just try to remember some Christians find great comfort in Christ. My grandmother was just one of them. Like I have said a thousand times if my grandmother was not welcomed into heaven by Jesus Christ himself there will be hell to pay and trust me hell will pay if she spent one moment unsure or frightened. So what I'm trying to say is I believe you have an important message to share with those that have no belief systems in their lives. Just a tiny bit gentler approach might be helpful.
Remember Lord Krishna's words
Howsoever you approach me with sincerity so shall I receive you for all men and women follow me in all their paths.
You are not an ordinary human...
You are a Master...
Very powerful...
And, by the way, very handsome one...
I wish to know which one...😊
God does exsist each one of you will have to give youre account to god as why you did not worship him and why you never accepted god when you kno he came down as jesus or may i say immanuel meaning (god with us). Ech one of you will go before him at the end of youre life or breath which ever comes first
I guess I will be a part of those comments made in the past. I’m glad you did this video and it shows a lot just because you so cool study scriptures and grew up in a so-called Christian home. There’s not make you a Christian and does not mean that you understand or understood what you was reading. And a lot of by what you said today actually shows that you definitely did not at all. No disrespect intended. whatever organization that you might been involved in, that might have shook on the label as Christie does not make it so many claim to come in his name. But at any time I will be willing to go over our view and eliminate misunderstandings of the scriptures.
Congratulations on such a fine example of the no true Scotsman fallacy.
Thank you. Have you explored the workings of Jonathan and Matthieu Pageau? They are Christian but focus a lot on symbology. They are pretty great.
The light bulb moment for me was when I started fearing heaven, it sounds as bad as hell to me now. That and prayer stopped making sense, why am I trying to bargain with earths dictator who already has his own plan 🤷♂️
I love you and how you’ve changed
The Flood represents “Wisdom”
Epiphanies if you will
Yes, it was wise for God to destroy most of humanity. I guess.
The Ark was about evolutionary practices
Cleanliness
Hygiene
Clothes
Social Status
Personal Habits
Kinetic Energy As A Collective Whole
Language
Merchant Trading
The Ark is Metaphysical and it still works
It still exists
i quit Xtianity for the first time after learning of inconsistencies in the NewTestament since i was a Bible reading Church going believer and the Torah made me so sad for all those slaves who were begging to go back to slavery for having to live in the desert with no food or water😿it was very difficult for me to read and at times i had to stop just to get thru it
but i gave the Trinity another chance to show me personally what they are made of
You was talking about people for about 1 hour say hi thanks Hi thanks Hi thanks I come here to list yours words not to listen that you thanking your followers.just say them thanks and go to your points bro! Thanks
He does a live to interact with followers and answer really interesting questions then edits these down later. If you’re not into live chats, just wait til he edits the video…
He has answered one of my questions live.😊
@@jackiesesthetics88 it makes sense!
another good lecture and i am glad that you believe in having an open mind. not because i'm religious, i'm not but because i think there are miracles on this earth and its always mind blowing when it happens. today however, is a day of sorrow, i had to put to sleep my beloved kitty Quimby. So sad. i;m not necessarily talking about religious miracles either.
Thank you I am hurt from doing tarot readings to being told it was bad, to be confused about my intuition and how that can be wrong, so much trauma from investigating evangelical extremism Christianity. I felt so disempowered and sad and scared and traumatized in a constant state of fear, anxiety, and depression and I am still going through it. I hope God is a Loving God and Jesus too. I definitely am struggling though RTS right now. I do believe in prayers. I just don’t want anyone to be sent to that place called hell. Not me or anyone I love. I believe in God and Jesus but I invesitugating so much and came to the conclusion that I didn’t agree with a lot of what they said so my fate was set. I prefer to be a loving and accepting person. I was hoping that the evil things were written by men and not by God. I l ow exorcists are real and evil is real which is why I turned to evangelical Christianity hoping for God’s protection. The more I studied that religion the more trauma accrued way worse than the initial trauma of simply leaving the Tatum community because I developed feelings and a a romantic situationship with a tarot reading RUclipsr on here who broke my heart and shattered my faith. That was the start of my spiritual crisis. One began as comfort in Jesus escalated into constant torment being fearful I was going to hell for believing in and entertaining psychics, and also being in myself to a certain degree. I also love and support gay people. I also don’t like the disempowering sexism of the extremism evangelical religion. It is utterly confusing and harmful and I believe that is causes a lot of people to experience such extreme trauma and obsession, and even worse self harm and the other s word. I am confused. I thought when I was little Jesus! Truth was simply to love and forgive unconditionally and try to do better each day. Not that we deserved hell simply for being sinners by birth until his bodily sacrifice. I am scared. Confused and trying to maintain my Faith while also keeping my sanity. I would appreciate more videos like this and of course prayers. I am a believer but I think that most if what is written in the Word of God which I do believe has a lot of reverence and power was actually distorted by men of power and influence. I am looking more and more for supporting evidence based on my suspicion of this. I just want to be happy Carol Ann again. The one that loves everybody and isn’t afraid of Hell. The one that trusts benevolent f psychic mediums again who actually connect with deceased loved ones through their God given gifts and nothing evil or scary or satanic.
First things first I love your channel... Second I'm somehow crazy enough that I want to believe in the ark... Which would leave us in the fourth Earth... However if we say no ark was... We still have an ice age and a comment which still leaves us in the third Earth if we judge the ice age the comet and the ark we would be in the fourth Earth.... Thoughts...?
Thanks for posting this video sir.
The channel of 'Mellisa Denice' named: 'Love covered life' gave me strenght. I learned a lot seeing her NDE stories and her talk 'deconstructing christian faith'.
For me personally whas always the question immanent: How can we be christian, or, leaving christianity when in fact christianity never existed. Its nothing more than a name for one milion different ideas. So, I was never christian, and I never left it. But, the ideas of Jesus concerning moral standards, are in my heart for ever. Because those ideas were with me from birth and recogniceable as general truth. For all mankind. I think that the word of the gospel in Matth.... "save and blessed is every one that is pure in heart and soul," is enough for all mankind. The rest of theological teaching might be manmade. But, I am stil wondering and questioning......
Greeting from Holland!