*TIMESTAMPS//SHOW NOTES* 00:00 Opening 10:11 Sophie grabs coffee 13:12 And Converses About Books 14:53 Sophie critiques the opening of "The Uninhabitable Earth" while talking about her upcoming video on climate doomerism (this is really good, don't skip this) 26:07 A preface to the InfoWars commentary 28:13 _Nick Fuentes is a horrible little Nazi slug who sucks_ 30:11 Weekend at BernYe's - some much needed nuance about how the accountability/actions of people with mental illness are manipulated/perceived 32:16 "Image", celebrity, feeding into anti-Semitism, control over image 36:18 An interesting comparison (elder abuse), hypothesis: abusers controlling/benefitting from finances/assets or value of brand 39:41 _A spectre is haunting Mars - the spectre of Mildred_ 40:54 [Insert Curb Your Enthusiasm theme here] 43:07 Sophie is based 43:14 _Thank you Kanye, very cool!_ 45:09 Decontextualised cryptofascist propaganda B-roll 46:07 Sophie is still based 47:14 _Boymoder fit_ 48:00 Again, being derealized and saying harmful things are not mutually exclusive; Sophie invites Jewish viewers to share their perspective 48:37 Very interesting tangent: the Talmud is not Jewish law, it is contradictory because it's a sum of interpretations; Fuentes is unquestionably lying {also see _m. error_'s comment} 54:42 _Net and Yoohoo_ (FUCKING END ME) 56:30 Sophie quotes Abed from Community and then leaves 58:16 _Return with the Elixir_ 59:58 Interesting point: Ye's current informational flow is a system of control to manipulate him and his belief system 1:04:26 Being directed to be a mouthpiece for Nazi talking points 1:06:44 Ye's/Tim Pool's/Nick Fuentes' place in the right wing media ecosphere (and the show is called Timcast lmao, what a great name) 1:09:32 Jimmy Kimmel decontextualising Nick Fuentes is detrimental 1:12:44 The only purpose in Sophie talking about the manipulation, is her trying to talk about a process by which Nazis are using people who have a large platform to leverage media attention to propagate their ideas - and not attempting to determine their belief systems 1:13:37 _A playground understanding of history_ 1:17:54 *[You will take 10 Psychic Damage listening to this]* 1:18:06 An interesting side note: a theory about a prepared set of points, an exercise of power through internal politics; a choreographed dance 1:24:21 The measurable overlap between someone who would be called paranoid and the conspiratorial style of politics; laundering talking points between cranks and grifters; contrasting Jones'/Ye's talking points in terms of being carefully constructed and cohesive and deliberating serving an agenda 1:29:30 Reactionary pundits competing in furthering internal Republican Party politics 1:30:39 Identifying several recurring anti-Semitic tropes 1:31:16 *[Combo x 2: +10 Psychic Damage]* 1:31:48 Empathising with Alex Jones 1:32:28 *[OH GOD PLEASE FUCKING MAKE IT STOP]* 1:32:48 Sophie synthesizes a very good summary of everything we've been unfortunate enough to witness thus far 1:42:41 Rewording one of the main points: the significance of all of this? It's all an attempt of the successfully-deplatformed alt-right manipulating Ye's goodwill/brand in order to try to integrate the explicitly Nazi ideals into the fringe-but-still-mainstream Trumpist Republican movement or even the "anti-woke"/ostracised fanbase through a process of acceptance 1:47:13 The difference between Christian dominionism and Nick Fuentes, reiterating the culpability of Ye *End notes:* _(Hi!)_ I feel like you've concisely said what people haven't, but if they tried to, they would fail - both in terms of the false dichotomYe (I'm sorry), and of the objectives/motives of his new entourage/leeches/puppeteers/abusers. I feel like the main points condensed down would do really well as a very short and concise video, because I've seen people both not taking this seriously enough or missing the point of what's so sinister about what's happening. Having said that, I don't know whether it would be like the style of videos most people are used to/will watch on the main channel. Speaking of which, because of that interlude of breaking down the book, I'm really looking forward to that climate doomerism video coming up. Best wishes.
Jones and Feuntes had very different goals here. Jones wanted to use Ye to make money and Nick wanted to use Ye to spread antisemitic propoganda. Alex Jones declared bankruptcy the day after this interview; so only one of them was successful
Jones has plenty of cash, he's just trying a hamfisted combination of asset diversion and bankruptcy declaration to evade his massive penalty in the Sandy Hook case. Not very well either.
@@UnreasonableOpinions this was separate from his early pretend bankruptcy. Tho I have no doubt he has plenty of gold dubloons buried under a tree somewhere
Oh don't worry, Alex made lots of money on this that he's currently winding through dozens of shell companies. He just declared bankruptcy because he doesn't want to pay the Sandy Hook families.
30:11 This. This right here is what has been driving me up the wall about the coverage of Ye. I work with people with psychotic disorders on a daily basis. The ways in which the people around them influence them and their beliefs is really important to understanding their particular form of psychosis. The easiest way to express that is that psychotic delusions follow cultural trends: until the UFO craze began, very few people with schizophrenia would believe that aliens were causing the voices in their heads. Similarly during the satanic scare there was a sudden increase in the belief in satanists among those with psychotic disorders. In my work during the pandemic, we saw an uptick of people with schizophrenia who believed in Qanon conspiracies. This is not because everyone who believes those things is psychotic, but people with psychosis will often grab on to the most culturally or personally relevant points of reference to explain their experience, and conspiracy theories or moral panics do a good job of slotting in.
Exactly!! I had a friend w/ Schizophrenia who learned about COINTEL & MK ULTRA when doing her college degree, so delusions about being stalked by the govt or being given drugs which were causing her hallucinations started up. It's such a complicated matter...
I can’t get over how bad Alex Jones is at interviewing people. You’d think he’d at least be able to keep a conversation going, or be able to redirect it when it goes in a direction he doesn’t want, but so much of the interview is just him going “ah” or awkwardly pausing at Ye’s answers. I know he’s a talentless hack, but even talentless hacks can pick up minor skills after so many years of doing the same job. I guess I’m glad that he’s so ineffective at what he does, it really does limit his audience to people who are already deep into the fascist pipeline.
You know for all the years my dad blasted Jones through the house when I was a kid, I can't remember him having many guests on. Seemed like every episode was him rambling on and on about the end of the world and Sandy Hook and "crisis actors"
I just want to quibble here: the Talmud is not 'Jewish law' in the same way Mishnah (kinda) is, but it is a series of texts in which the Rabbinic era sages argue out rulings on halakhic (which: the core of Jewish law) subjects, among other things. And these decisions and pronouncements are part of what later rabonim and poskim (rabbis and judges of law) use to derive later rulings and interpretations of how the core laws of halakha are to be enacted in the world. None of Sophie's characterisations of what it is are precisely wrong either- Talmud is a lot of things! But it does absolutely form part of the interpretative chain from which modern readings of what halakha *is* derive from, for most, not all, Jews on Earth. So: Fuentes is fucking wrong and what he is saying is also still wrong (nothing in the fucking Talmud is straightforward or binding because it's extremely internally contradictory and allusive and complicated, bc it's a bunch of stories about the arguments and actions of a bunch of magical rabbis who do absolutely berserk shit and spend the rest of the time arguing), and what he is saying is actually an antisemitic shibboleth, but. But. There is a relationship between the Talmud and halakha and that shouldn't be downplayed. (also: Sophie, if you see this, congrats on the study, may knowledge be ever sweet [and confusing and perverse and frankly kinda bugfuck]
As someone who's experienced psychosis personally and as someone with a parent with untreated bipolar depression, this is much more like a severe hypermanic episode. Not just through the symptoms Ye's showing (which are textbook for a severe bipolar manic episode), but also because: we already KNOW kanye has bipolar depression. It makes more sense to look at this as a continuation of an ongoing health crisis for kanye, rather than a new crisis. he even said himself a few years ago that he was discontinuing the medication that got him stable the last time he became manic (and got diagnosed) in this way. and since that time, we've seen him become progressively more and more erratic, with mania symptoms worsening (inappropriate laughter, word salad, erratic racing thoughts and speech patterns, poor financial management, paranoia about being under threat of death or surveillance, etc) it's just that this time, nazis were ready to lovebomb him and groom him into their puppet.
Hearing the story about Musk and Ye gave me just lethal amounts of psychic damage. I have come back as a ghost to say that DJ Muel was right, and ghosts are real.
out of everything from the kanye alex jones interview the thing i keep thinking about is when ye goes "hey, DUCKING auto-correct, right?" with the clear expectation of laughter and praise
After the 2016 Trump interview and now the Fuentes thing I’m getting very close to thinking Kimmel might just be a crypto-fash. Like he continues to platform fascist ideas and figures without any caveats and then when he gets called out he just goes “whoops” like…you have infinite resources with which to find out who these people are, what these ideas mean and at this point he’s either refusing to do so or actively ignoring it and either way he should be seen as directly oppositional to progressive ideas
Another sad secondary effect of this whole thing (at least IMO) is also how this will help clean the images of Tim Pool, Alex Jones and whatever other pundit. Putting themselves beside an even bigger antisemite/extremist will make them look tamer by comparison, and will posture themselves as "reasonable", pushing the Overton window further.
11:05 nooo! We love you both! I'm sorry if we make you feel like we prefer Pinko! Edit: the full face mask *_has_* to be a "plausible" denial tactic. An extremely bad one, yeah, but one.
christmas can be a weird and shit time, if you're alone and feel up to doing any kind of silly little stream I'm sure lots of us are in the same boat and would keep each other company 💖
This is a detail, but because Sophie is going to do a video on the book I think is worth to point it out to avoid fair criticism that would distract from the actual point. While the passage and the discussion she read at the beginning are clearly geographically deterministic BS etc., the US are correctly labelled as "a temperate country". Sophie reaction was to think of specific local climates, but the description was intended as a global one. So temperate does not indicate a specific temperature, but the position on the planet. To be clear, the US mainland is temperate, and so are China, most of Europe, and also Morocco and Libya And many others). Basically the globe is divided in zones based on the parallels, the most relevant for this discussion are the equator at 0°, the 30° parallels (north and south) and the 60° (again, north and south), due to the movement of the earth and other factors. Basically this phenomena is behind the winds movements and creates the major currents that trades hot and cold air, influencing climate: the equatorial wind (from east to west), the trading winds (northeasterly and southeasterly) between the equator and the 30° parallels, and then the westerlies from the 30° to the 60°. You can see this phenomena really clearly by looking at a satellite view of South America, in the Andes you can see the 30° as in the northern part, closer to the equator the amazon forest is on the east side of the mountains and the westerner side is arid and deserter, while south to the the 30° parallel the situation inverted, with the west side covered in forest and the east side arid. It's because of the winds and the mountain. The Andes forces humid air to drop and causes heavy rains on the side they impact, creating a "shadow of rains" in the other side. As the mountain are almost perpendicular to the 30° parallel the line is very visible. Because the mainland US is located between the 30°N and the 60°N (Florida and Texas are on the 30°North and partially south to it, hence warmer climates, but still close enough to the line to exchange winds), so they are in a temperate zone. Not as hot as the equatorial countries (tropical and sub-tropical, between the equator and the 30° parallels) and not as cold as the arctic and sub-arctic ones (between the 60° and the pole). This will never changes, unless drastic changing in the orbit of the planet, as if the planet gets warmer, the tropical zones will always be hotter then the temperate and the arctic zone will always be colder. Now the rest of the discussion in the book was correctly identified as BS, furthermore, being in the temperate zone does not influence how much climate change will impact (it will hit everybody all over the globe, wealth is a much better indication of who will be able to react better...), but it will impact which phenomena will happen. Moreover some specific climates can exists only at certain latitudes, but being in the temperate zone doesn't imply the same thing. Example, the US are often hit by tornadoes, this is not the case for Europe, China, Australia or Argentina. This is because of Atlantic current and similar, which makes the US often on the trajectory. Climate change may causes more tornadoes and make more damages in the US than in other temperate countries. For Europe drought and flooding are more likely. Oh, look, how weird, we literally got both in the last years... Well, sorry for the wall of text...
Don't be sorry at all for the wall of text!! Those were very important distinctions you made & I think they will help Sophie to refine her points, so her essay is able to cut to the core of the issue w/o being immediately dismissed over technicalities [as many pedants are wont to do]. To specify... YOU weren't being pedantic - you were being informative.
To explain the Ari Emanuel thing - Ari is a very big power player in the music industry (his brother Rahm is the former Chicago mayor) and one complaint against him is that all of his live music festivals (which are like... all the big ones) have very restrictive contracts that prevent artists from performing in the same city for years after the festival. Wouldn't be surprised if Ye had some conflict with him about that.
That’s so fascinating to me, that bit about the story of Noah’s ark. I was raised in the Roman Catholic Church (now atheist), and that story was always very much told in a “Noah was so special, and it serves all those dead people right for being so ungodly, and it’s a good thing that god wiped the Earth clean” sort of way (not quite that explicitly, but you get it). It really drives home for me how much Christianity (at least, modern Christianity) is a religion built on absolute obedience to a higher power, with no arguments or objections. It was reflected in our schooling too, I remember asking a lot of why questions as a kid, and the answer was usually “because it is”. The idea that the story of Noah could have been a cautionary tale about NOAH’S actions, rather than the wickedness of everybody else, is sort of blowing my mind a little rn.
It is so incredibly funny that Caleb Maupin is just being roasted, called a worm, for like 20 minutes (with an intermission), to Sophie's confusion. I'd suspect it was deliberate except that it might gratify Caleb. Not even kinkshaming him, that is seriously why i know it was an accident.
1:32:27 Small correction here. This is flipping the Mau Mau Uprising with the Second Boer War. The latter is the one where the British invented concentration camps, the former didn’t happen until the 1950s
The standard I have for people pushed into actions from their mental illness/instability is the quote from I think one of the Last Podcast guys and it's "It's not your fault, but it's is your responsebility." I can't help my depression, it's not my fault I have depression, but how I act, and what I do is still my responsibility. Ye is responsible for his actions, but it's not his fault that he's in the state of a full episode. Mayo and Fentes-anyl over there is clearly the ones calling the shots and absolutely are to blame for much of this. It's sad really how easily they were able to wrap Ye around their little fingers.
Really good stream, going into the details on every sentence pretty much. A lot of people don't realize how bad things already are and it needs to be examined
Sophie think you’re absolutely right about Ye’s delusional thinking. It can be hard to recognize the difference between religious sentiment and a true psychotic break, but having close experiences with both I think we are looking at the latter. Anyhow I find the subject matter hits close to home as my mother has Jewish ancestry and my father also happened to think he was the second coming of christ. I hope you get as much joy out of DS9 as I do and I hope Nat gets well soon. Live long and prosper 🖖🏼
Your summary/conclusion at the end of this is a really good distillation of so many ‘why is this happening and where is it going” pieces that have been discussed across leftist essays. Feels cohesive enough to share with all the people I keep suggesting watch 1-2h videos. Really great work I’m also looking forward to the climate essay, the doomerism is so stifling and pushback is really important
Im sorry for the horrible comment below, i might be alone too and im just gonna make myself mulled wine and roast chicken and watch blazing saddles! We can still have a nice time :)
Awh, I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope you're able to make the best of your holidays!! If it will give you a chuckle, you get to be the first who is to hear the gift I'm getting for a friend! I'm pretty fucking broke [yay being disabled], so I can't afford much, but... I'm buying little silicone dicks you can put as covers on lightswitches. And next time I go over to my friend's house, I'm gonna covertly put dicks on all of his lightswitches. They're only a few bucks on Etsy! Even tho I can't get him something special, I hope he'll get a laugh.
I want to go back in time and tell someone that in 2022 kanye west is on infowars waving a net and a bottle of yoohoo around while claiming that there is a jewish conspiracy to destroy him.
I mean, at this point I gotta ask, how tf is this actually good for the nazi? One would assume that seeing Ye talk gibberish about Instagram porn, the second coming of Jesus, horrific anti-semitism and 1920s fresh antisemitic jokes, while wearing an EYELESS, MOUTHLESS BLACK HOOD, would be a pretty powerful wake up call for lots of people about how MAYBE they kinda have lost track of their lives, if they're politically rooting for these guys.
It's good for nazis because it's pushing the Overton window; having someone be so agregiously antisemitic makes milder antisemitism seem more acceptable because they're not "as bad" while also bringing the open bigotry into the public consciousness
It really isn't. If you sneak around fash circles, you can see they love this. Any of the weird shit they don't like they blame on Ye being black. They are eating this up.
1:31:49 If Alex Jones is overwhelmed by someone's word salad, there's definitely more at play than a political agenda. The guy couldn't stay on topic to save his life.
Sorry I might comment as if this is live for me even though I'm watching back. Oh no! No more economics nooooo I love what economics does for my life.. who will exploit me now?!
*TIMESTAMPS//SHOW NOTES*
00:00 Opening
10:11 Sophie grabs coffee
13:12 And Converses About Books
14:53 Sophie critiques the opening of "The Uninhabitable Earth" while talking about her upcoming video on climate doomerism (this is really good, don't skip this)
26:07 A preface to the InfoWars commentary
28:13 _Nick Fuentes is a horrible little Nazi slug who sucks_
30:11 Weekend at BernYe's - some much needed nuance about how the accountability/actions of people with mental illness are manipulated/perceived
32:16 "Image", celebrity, feeding into anti-Semitism, control over image
36:18 An interesting comparison (elder abuse), hypothesis: abusers controlling/benefitting from finances/assets or value of brand
39:41 _A spectre is haunting Mars - the spectre of Mildred_
40:54 [Insert Curb Your Enthusiasm theme here]
43:07 Sophie is based
43:14 _Thank you Kanye, very cool!_
45:09 Decontextualised cryptofascist propaganda B-roll
46:07 Sophie is still based
47:14 _Boymoder fit_
48:00 Again, being derealized and saying harmful things are not mutually exclusive; Sophie invites Jewish viewers to share their perspective
48:37 Very interesting tangent: the Talmud is not Jewish law, it is contradictory because it's a sum of interpretations; Fuentes is unquestionably lying {also see _m. error_'s comment}
54:42 _Net and Yoohoo_ (FUCKING END ME)
56:30 Sophie quotes Abed from Community and then leaves
58:16 _Return with the Elixir_
59:58 Interesting point: Ye's current informational flow is a system of control to manipulate him and his belief system
1:04:26 Being directed to be a mouthpiece for Nazi talking points
1:06:44 Ye's/Tim Pool's/Nick Fuentes' place in the right wing media ecosphere (and the show is called Timcast lmao, what a great name)
1:09:32 Jimmy Kimmel decontextualising Nick Fuentes is detrimental
1:12:44 The only purpose in Sophie talking about the manipulation, is her trying to talk about a process by which Nazis are using people who have a large platform to leverage media attention to propagate their ideas - and not attempting to determine their belief systems
1:13:37 _A playground understanding of history_
1:17:54 *[You will take 10 Psychic Damage listening to this]*
1:18:06 An interesting side note: a theory about a prepared set of points, an exercise of power through internal politics; a choreographed dance
1:24:21 The measurable overlap between someone who would be called paranoid and the conspiratorial style of politics; laundering talking points between cranks and grifters; contrasting Jones'/Ye's talking points in terms of being carefully constructed and cohesive and deliberating serving an agenda
1:29:30 Reactionary pundits competing in furthering internal Republican Party politics
1:30:39 Identifying several recurring anti-Semitic tropes
1:31:16 *[Combo x 2: +10 Psychic Damage]*
1:31:48 Empathising with Alex Jones
1:32:28 *[OH GOD PLEASE FUCKING MAKE IT STOP]*
1:32:48 Sophie synthesizes a very good summary of everything we've been unfortunate enough to witness thus far
1:42:41 Rewording one of the main points: the significance of all of this? It's all an attempt of the successfully-deplatformed alt-right manipulating Ye's goodwill/brand in order to try to integrate the explicitly Nazi ideals into the fringe-but-still-mainstream Trumpist Republican movement or even the "anti-woke"/ostracised fanbase through a process of acceptance
1:47:13 The difference between Christian dominionism and Nick Fuentes, reiterating the culpability of Ye
*End notes:* _(Hi!)_ I feel like you've concisely said what people haven't, but if they tried to, they would fail - both in terms of the false dichotomYe (I'm sorry), and of the objectives/motives of his new entourage/leeches/puppeteers/abusers. I feel like the main points condensed down would do really well as a very short and concise video, because I've seen people both not taking this seriously enough or missing the point of what's so sinister about what's happening. Having said that, I don't know whether it would be like the style of videos most people are used to/will watch on the main channel. Speaking of which, because of that interlude of breaking down the book, I'm really looking forward to that climate doomerism video coming up. Best wishes.
Jones and Feuntes had very different goals here. Jones wanted to use Ye to make money and Nick wanted to use Ye to spread antisemitic propoganda. Alex Jones declared bankruptcy the day after this interview; so only one of them was successful
Jones has plenty of cash, he's just trying a hamfisted combination of asset diversion and bankruptcy declaration to evade his massive penalty in the Sandy Hook case. Not very well either.
@@UnreasonableOpinions this was separate from his early pretend bankruptcy. Tho I have no doubt he has plenty of gold dubloons buried under a tree somewhere
Oh don't worry, Alex made lots of money on this that he's currently winding through dozens of shell companies. He just declared bankruptcy because he doesn't want to pay the Sandy Hook families.
Nowhere near as antisemitic as The Squad but they of course get a pass as Democrats.
@@jack-of-all-trades1234 I hear that if you make up enough enemies in your own head you get a free coffee at Starbucks.
Sophie: "This Stream will be boring."
Me, a nerd: "Yes! YEEEES!"
30:11 This. This right here is what has been driving me up the wall about the coverage of Ye. I work with people with psychotic disorders on a daily basis. The ways in which the people around them influence them and their beliefs is really important to understanding their particular form of psychosis.
The easiest way to express that is that psychotic delusions follow cultural trends: until the UFO craze began, very few people with schizophrenia would believe that aliens were causing the voices in their heads. Similarly during the satanic scare there was a sudden increase in the belief in satanists among those with psychotic disorders. In my work during the pandemic, we saw an uptick of people with schizophrenia who believed in Qanon conspiracies. This is not because everyone who believes those things is psychotic, but people with psychosis will often grab on to the most culturally or personally relevant points of reference to explain their experience, and conspiracy theories or moral panics do a good job of slotting in.
Exactly!! I had a friend w/ Schizophrenia who learned about COINTEL & MK ULTRA when doing her college degree, so delusions about being stalked by the govt or being given drugs which were causing her hallucinations started up. It's such a complicated matter...
While Pinko is a gem, we're here for you, Sophie!
I can’t get over how bad Alex Jones is at interviewing people. You’d think he’d at least be able to keep a conversation going, or be able to redirect it when it goes in a direction he doesn’t want, but so much of the interview is just him going “ah” or awkwardly pausing at Ye’s answers. I know he’s a talentless hack, but even talentless hacks can pick up minor skills after so many years of doing the same job. I guess I’m glad that he’s so ineffective at what he does, it really does limit his audience to people who are already deep into the fascist pipeline.
You know for all the years my dad blasted Jones through the house when I was a kid, I can't remember him having many guests on. Seemed like every episode was him rambling on and on about the end of the world and Sandy Hook and "crisis actors"
I just want to quibble here: the Talmud is not 'Jewish law' in the same way Mishnah (kinda) is, but it is a series of texts in which the Rabbinic era sages argue out rulings on halakhic (which: the core of Jewish law) subjects, among other things. And these decisions and pronouncements are part of what later rabonim and poskim (rabbis and judges of law) use to derive later rulings and interpretations of how the core laws of halakha are to be enacted in the world.
None of Sophie's characterisations of what it is are precisely wrong either- Talmud is a lot of things! But it does absolutely form part of the interpretative chain from which modern readings of what halakha *is* derive from, for most, not all, Jews on Earth. So: Fuentes is fucking wrong and what he is saying is also still wrong (nothing in the fucking Talmud is straightforward or binding because it's extremely internally contradictory and allusive and complicated, bc it's a bunch of stories about the arguments and actions of a bunch of magical rabbis who do absolutely berserk shit and spend the rest of the time arguing), and what he is saying is actually an antisemitic shibboleth, but. But. There is a relationship between the Talmud and halakha and that shouldn't be downplayed.
(also: Sophie, if you see this, congrats on the study, may knowledge be ever sweet [and confusing and perverse and frankly kinda bugfuck]
As someone who's experienced psychosis personally and as someone with a parent with untreated bipolar depression, this is much more like a severe hypermanic episode. Not just through the symptoms Ye's showing (which are textbook for a severe bipolar manic episode), but also because: we already KNOW kanye has bipolar depression. It makes more sense to look at this as a continuation of an ongoing health crisis for kanye, rather than a new crisis.
he even said himself a few years ago that he was discontinuing the medication that got him stable the last time he became manic (and got diagnosed) in this way. and since that time, we've seen him become progressively more and more erratic, with mania symptoms worsening (inappropriate laughter, word salad, erratic racing thoughts and speech patterns, poor financial management, paranoia about being under threat of death or surveillance, etc)
it's just that this time, nazis were ready to lovebomb him and groom him into their puppet.
Hearing the story about Musk and Ye gave me just lethal amounts of psychic damage. I have come back as a ghost to say that DJ Muel was right, and ghosts are real.
out of everything from the kanye alex jones interview the thing i keep thinking about is when ye goes "hey, DUCKING auto-correct, right?" with the clear expectation of laughter and praise
After the 2016 Trump interview and now the Fuentes thing I’m getting very close to thinking Kimmel might just be a crypto-fash. Like he continues to platform fascist ideas and figures without any caveats and then when he gets called out he just goes “whoops” like…you have infinite resources with which to find out who these people are, what these ideas mean and at this point he’s either refusing to do so or actively ignoring it and either way he should be seen as directly oppositional to progressive ideas
Another sad secondary effect of this whole thing (at least IMO) is also how this will help clean the images of Tim Pool, Alex Jones and whatever other pundit. Putting themselves beside an even bigger antisemite/extremist will make them look tamer by comparison, and will posture themselves as "reasonable", pushing the Overton window further.
It probably says I'm in too deep but somehow the explicit antisemitism was easier to deal with than the whole Net and Yoohoo bit.
If it helps at all, my Mom was specifically mad about that detail too.
11:05 nooo! We love you both! I'm sorry if we make you feel like we prefer Pinko!
Edit: the full face mask *_has_* to be a "plausible" denial tactic. An extremely bad one, yeah, but one.
Its not, Ye has been going around in a mask in public appearances for a long time, including performances.
personally i hate Pinko lol
christmas can be a weird and shit time, if you're alone and feel up to doing any kind of silly little stream I'm sure lots of us are in the same boat and would keep each other company 💖
This is a detail, but because Sophie is going to do a video on the book I think is worth to point it out to avoid fair criticism that would distract from the actual point. While the passage and the discussion she read at the beginning are clearly geographically deterministic BS etc., the US are correctly labelled as "a temperate country". Sophie reaction was to think of specific local climates, but the description was intended as a global one. So temperate does not indicate a specific temperature, but the position on the planet. To be clear, the US mainland is temperate, and so are China, most of Europe, and also Morocco and Libya And many others).
Basically the globe is divided in zones based on the parallels, the most relevant for this discussion are the equator at 0°, the 30° parallels (north and south) and the 60° (again, north and south), due to the movement of the earth and other factors. Basically this phenomena is behind the winds movements and creates the major currents that trades hot and cold air, influencing climate: the equatorial wind (from east to west), the trading winds (northeasterly and southeasterly) between the equator and the 30° parallels, and then the westerlies from the 30° to the 60°. You can see this phenomena really clearly by looking at a satellite view of South America, in the Andes you can see the 30° as in the northern part, closer to the equator the amazon forest is on the east side of the mountains and the westerner side is arid and deserter, while south to the the 30° parallel the situation inverted, with the west side covered in forest and the east side arid. It's because of the winds and the mountain. The Andes forces humid air to drop and causes heavy rains on the side they impact, creating a "shadow of rains" in the other side. As the mountain are almost perpendicular to the 30° parallel the line is very visible.
Because the mainland US is located between the 30°N and the 60°N (Florida and Texas are on the 30°North and partially south to it, hence warmer climates, but still close enough to the line to exchange winds), so they are in a temperate zone. Not as hot as the equatorial countries (tropical and sub-tropical, between the equator and the 30° parallels) and not as cold as the arctic and sub-arctic ones (between the 60° and the pole). This will never changes, unless drastic changing in the orbit of the planet, as if the planet gets warmer, the tropical zones will always be hotter then the temperate and the arctic zone will always be colder.
Now the rest of the discussion in the book was correctly identified as BS, furthermore, being in the temperate zone does not influence how much climate change will impact (it will hit everybody all over the globe, wealth is a much better indication of who will be able to react better...), but it will impact which phenomena will happen. Moreover some specific climates can exists only at certain latitudes, but being in the temperate zone doesn't imply the same thing. Example, the US are often hit by tornadoes, this is not the case for Europe, China, Australia or Argentina. This is because of Atlantic current and similar, which makes the US often on the trajectory. Climate change may causes more tornadoes and make more damages in the US than in other temperate countries. For Europe drought and flooding are more likely. Oh, look, how weird, we literally got both in the last years...
Well, sorry for the wall of text...
Don't be sorry at all for the wall of text!! Those were very important distinctions you made & I think they will help Sophie to refine her points, so her essay is able to cut to the core of the issue w/o being immediately dismissed over technicalities [as many pedants are wont to do]. To specify... YOU weren't being pedantic - you were being informative.
Um. I WILL actually watch this tomorrow but I just wanted to say you look so pretty Sophie 😭💕
To explain the Ari Emanuel thing - Ari is a very big power player in the music industry (his brother Rahm is the former Chicago mayor) and one complaint against him is that all of his live music festivals (which are like... all the big ones) have very restrictive contracts that prevent artists from performing in the same city for years after the festival. Wouldn't be surprised if Ye had some conflict with him about that.
That’s so fascinating to me, that bit about the story of Noah’s ark. I was raised in the Roman Catholic Church (now atheist), and that story was always very much told in a “Noah was so special, and it serves all those dead people right for being so ungodly, and it’s a good thing that god wiped the Earth clean” sort of way (not quite that explicitly, but you get it). It really drives home for me how much Christianity (at least, modern Christianity) is a religion built on absolute obedience to a higher power, with no arguments or objections. It was reflected in our schooling too, I remember asking a lot of why questions as a kid, and the answer was usually “because it is”. The idea that the story of Noah could have been a cautionary tale about NOAH’S actions, rather than the wickedness of everybody else, is sort of blowing my mind a little rn.
It is so incredibly funny that Caleb Maupin is just being roasted, called a worm, for like 20 minutes (with an intermission), to Sophie's confusion. I'd suspect it was deliberate except that it might gratify Caleb. Not even kinkshaming him, that is seriously why i know it was an accident.
Thank you very much for the content warning about psychosis i appreciate it
The shout out to Minnesota in this video made me trans
Stream begins at 5:06
and again 22:50
1:32:27 Small correction here. This is flipping the Mau Mau Uprising with the Second Boer War. The latter is the one where the British invented concentration camps, the former didn’t happen until the 1950s
And to clarify the British did also use concentration camps in Kenya during the Mau Mau Uprising
The standard I have for people pushed into actions from their mental illness/instability is the quote from I think one of the Last Podcast guys and it's "It's not your fault, but it's is your responsebility." I can't help my depression, it's not my fault I have depression, but how I act, and what I do is still my responsibility. Ye is responsible for his actions, but it's not his fault that he's in the state of a full episode. Mayo and Fentes-anyl over there is clearly the ones calling the shots and absolutely are to blame for much of this. It's sad really how easily they were able to wrap Ye around their little fingers.
Really good stream, going into the details on every sentence pretty much. A lot of people don't realize how bad things already are and it needs to be examined
Also, he's acting the way I do when I'm VERY drunk, following thought trains as they appear.
The Maupin audio intro confused me so much, i thought i had clicked on the wrong video, and then it looped, lol
Sophie think you’re absolutely right about Ye’s delusional thinking. It can be hard to recognize the difference between religious sentiment and a true psychotic break, but having close experiences with both I think we are looking at the latter. Anyhow I find the subject matter hits close to home as my mother has Jewish ancestry and my father also happened to think he was the second coming of christ. I hope you get as much joy out of DS9 as I do and I hope Nat gets well soon. Live long and prosper 🖖🏼
Thank you for the fun video Sophie, here’s to a lonely holiday together 🎉
Your summary/conclusion at the end of this is a really good distillation of so many ‘why is this happening and where is it going” pieces that have been discussed across leftist essays. Feels cohesive enough to share with all the people I keep suggesting watch 1-2h videos. Really great work
I’m also looking forward to the climate essay, the doomerism is so stifling and pushback is really important
I'm spending christmas alone and presentless as well
People that are so confused that can't figure out their sex orientations end up spending a lot of time alone before they commit suicide.
@@cheeseball3204 wow thanks, I feel better now
Im sorry for the horrible comment below, i might be alone too and im just gonna make myself mulled wine and roast chicken and watch blazing saddles! We can still have a nice time :)
@@okayokayfineilldoit Imma bake some weed brownies and marathon God of War all day :3
Awh, I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope you're able to make the best of your holidays!!
If it will give you a chuckle, you get to be the first who is to hear the gift I'm getting for a friend! I'm pretty fucking broke [yay being disabled], so I can't afford much, but... I'm buying little silicone dicks you can put as covers on lightswitches. And next time I go over to my friend's house, I'm gonna covertly put dicks on all of his lightswitches. They're only a few bucks on Etsy! Even tho I can't get him something special, I hope he'll get a laugh.
Frying Latkes for Hanukkah prep, loving Sophie!
I want to go back in time and tell someone that in 2022 kanye west is on infowars waving a net and a bottle of yoohoo around while claiming that there is a jewish conspiracy to destroy him.
Hearing someone else openly talk about knowlege fight makes me feel less crazy.
Ye ? More like Nay
Jeez, I'm starting to feel bad for Alex Jones.
Milo has left the Ye train.
I mean, at this point I gotta ask, how tf is this actually good for the nazi?
One would assume that seeing Ye talk gibberish about Instagram porn, the second coming of Jesus, horrific anti-semitism and 1920s fresh antisemitic jokes, while wearing an EYELESS, MOUTHLESS BLACK HOOD, would be a pretty powerful wake up call for lots of people about how MAYBE they kinda have lost track of their lives, if they're politically rooting for these guys.
It's good for nazis because it's pushing the Overton window; having someone be so agregiously antisemitic makes milder antisemitism seem more acceptable because they're not "as bad" while also bringing the open bigotry into the public consciousness
It really isn't. If you sneak around fash circles, you can see they love this. Any of the weird shit they don't like they blame on Ye being black. They are eating this up.
About 1.33.10 The expression on Alex Jone's face is (chef's kiss) And Nick's grin... Well. I hope he gets what he deserves
Circa 00:52:30
Ye and Fuentes: "Jews are pdf files and that's bad"
Ye and Fuentes: friends with Milo Phucking Yianopolis, famously pro-pdf filing
Looks like the interview has around 3 million views, not 30 million.
Alex Jones lying, I'm shocked haha
Completely off topic but you’re so pretty
Always welcome
Audio doesn't seem to be working
Nvm I fixed it :P
No audio? for me?
5:00
1:31:49 If Alex Jones is overwhelmed by someone's word salad, there's definitely more at play than a political agenda. The guy couldn't stay on topic to save his life.
Sorry I might comment as if this is live for me even though I'm watching back. Oh no! No more economics nooooo I love what economics does for my life.. who will exploit me now?!
This is… a lot worse than I thought it was going to be.
video and stream start at the same time? what is this, professionalism?
This is difficult to watch. I knew it would be bad, but like
Ye on InfoWars I mean, not the stream. The stream is lovely and insightful.
„In number of Holocausts“ jesus christ, way to make an important message approachable to a broad audience, „uninhabitable earth“ author 🙄
Ye. Is. UNHINGED. 🙃🤪🤯😥😱🤬😞😵