I do think Fantastic is a sleeper pick. If you are consistent with his full rotation and properly understand how Elasticity works, he's borderline unkillable. It's literally the insane sustain issue Panther had in Season 0 but now the entire hero is built around entering that state of sustain.
Agreed, I've played Mr.F this season on maps where BP is not good ro the comp just doesn't allow me to use him to his full potential and I almost never die with him unless I am literally jumped by the entire team. That is insane value, the common trap I see with other Fantastic players is they don't know when(or how) to switch off his inflate to keep the shields and use his other abilities. His ult needs a buff but it's still good when used along with other more devastating ults to keep people from running away or in low ceiling areas where the damage comes faster. Edit: OH and he doesn't care about Magneto or Strange shields he goes right through them AND can hit multiple people at once!
His diaper walk totally tanks a storm ult. My man is strong. If he could use diaper walk in his buff form and he gained shields during his ult he’d be OP.
@@elite18commander7 It could use maybe a little more damage, but even as is I've been having success with it. After I complete a cycle to 100 and jump on the backline with big boy mode, I'll get a hit in or two and people naturally try to kite away. I think this is one of the best times to use his ult, the slow stacks and damage stacks make them trying to get out much harder and even if he isn't doing tons of damage, the space created and slows make them easy clean up for the team and if they retreat into a small room, even better. I rarely ult thinking I NEED a kill, and especially never to try and solo ult someone. I do it more when they try to back out, and/or to create much needed space.
He's amazing at peeling off divers from his supports as well. The most fun I've had with him is being like a guard dog to the supports against a dive heavy team. His lingering hitboxes and command grabs make it not very mechanically demanding either.
I swear every streamer says Hulk is S tier but I have never seen a good hulk player, including me. I jump anywhere near the enemy team I’m baby banner instantly IT’S BAD
Fellow Mr Fantastic players, constantly be in big form with other tank, and go for back line. Squishies absolutely crumble so his area dmg in big form.
You can hit multiple ppl with his auto attack, when swinging like with Reinhard. Never saw someone mentioning it, or using it. Tho you only get the charge once.
THANK YOU for the good opinion on Rocket, you actually describe him properly, he's decent and at best good, he's NOT bad and he's NOT as good as the other supports.
I’m okay with people saying Scarlet Witch is cheeks because she’ll just get buffed but I do well with her and have made it to Diamond 3 with her, Mr. Fantastic, and C&D
Rocket is a low death hero, it's a healer that can kill any character that takes it 1v1 if you hit headshots he can dash, he can climb on walls. he can shoot while escaping and still heal himself and the team. If you just want the whole team to basically be always healed slightly then rocket is the best. He's surprisingly what id consider to be a great dive healer. If your teammates are out of position you can bounce the heals down halls and it wont be used by others
facts. people are sleeping on rocket alot. you can easily defend yourself and weasel your way out of tricky situations. i top heal on rocket easily just by staying in the backline and bouncing heals around.
@ rocket’s job is to make everyone feel like they have a damage reduction. He’s the only one that can solo heal a bad positional team. He’s held back by his ult not changing the tide of the game. Buffing his healing just made good even better. I will say the one thing that stinks about him is not being able to shoot while healing. You won’t get any dmg output if you’re healing and his damage drop off being so short ruins his midrange potential which is where he doesn’t have to constantly heal
I've basically been maining Magneto (I call it being in Magneto jail cause I don't tend to have a choice in the matter, but he's fun) and he feels extremely strong even in the situations of being the only tank on the team. He just doesn’t die sometimes. I think the one issue he has is that his ultimate varies in strength a lot depending on the enemy team. His other major flaw is that his team up is crippled by Wanda being a throw pick right now which is kinda sad because the sword beams make him way more scary.
Absolutely killed me when he was naming every hero that counters Jeff ult and all of them had counters to it, but "he's probably fucked" with Hawkeye lol.
I think as the season progresses people will get more used to fighting Storm and she won't really be considered quite as op as some people think. She has a pretty big weakness in that she's very slow, and being a flying character that can't really hide behind your tank, and no movement ability like Iron Man, as people get more used to aiming at her with Hulk jumps, or the Helas, Star Lords, and Punishers up in the ranks, she'll go lower in people's op vision. Though at the moment I do agree she's probably the best Duelist just for the fact she buffs everyone else around
Disagree entirely. Storm is a character you want to play closer to the ground, and for 3 main reasons. - 1, your boost Aura may have a massive radius, but you also want to catch enemies in it when you activate the amp, since the damage aura will strike enemies with lightning for tons of burst, and the speed aura will actually slow enemies and allow for easy chasedowns. - The 2nd reason isn't as obvious, but it's her primary fire. Her wind blades actually pierce targets, and you can build ults INSANELY fast against grouped up enemies. There have been games where I get ult before or right after capping the point on domination. - The 3rd and final reason is because she's a flying character, and you do NOT want to have people sniping you out of the sky with ease. Play lower and around cover, and you'll live way longer. Also this: Storm is NOT slow. She may FEEL slow because she doesn't move much in her animations, but she's quite quick just because of speed aura. Her ability to fly also means she wastes less time getting to high ground via. stairs or otherwise. Her kit is kind of loaded. Plus she CAN go to the sky box if needed to go over rooftops or play around tall Pillars and distract enemies by forcing them to look up. I just wouldn't default to that.
Thats the thing, LOUD. In a shooter game you reward players paying attention on 'footstep sounds' and those who expect it. Buy ironman? they make the sprint and E a no skill level of loud to hear it. They fking kill big portion of his gameplay. No other duelist bullshits themself like this.
What do you all think is an example of a 'best' designed character? 'Best' is obviously subjective but I really appreciate Magik being a combination of good strengths and weaknesses, definitely requiring skill to play, while not having a one button big AOE high DPS ult. I'd still prefer if her dash was easier to hit (cuz I'm bad) and her ult to not have so much animation lock going in and out but I'm pretty satisfied with how she plays right now.
There's nothing scary about Mr Fantastic though, he just slowly walks forward takes damage, activates his shield and then walks back. He pads out his numbers by doing this but isn't really having that much impact on the game. Even his damage numbers are padded because he's not really finishing people off, he's just poking them and feeding the ults of the enemy healers.
Ima be honest, give it 2 weeks or so and im guessing that SQ pick rate will go nuclear. That burst damage is no joke when you get the aim down, and a stun that can ricochet? The only weakness is really her hitbox, but that's what happens when you get blessed with them ultra thick genes 💔
As a Magneto main I’m pleasantly surprised to see him placed so high. His kit feels very solid and he has tons of staying power but I always thought his ult left a lot to be desired, especially compared to other powerful Vanguard ults like Strange and Groot. I feel like it needs a higher cap on its damage absorption considering it can get insta-cancelled by certain Duelist ults which is exactly what it’s supposed to counter.
I think instead of ult breaking magneto should be just forced to throw it in 1 secondish duration after it hits the limit. I don't think removing the break mechanic would make him OP tbh.
his ult is fine if you just save for a support ult, especially cloak. also really good against star lord ult. if ur expected to pull up meteor and tank an entire punisher ult idk what to tell you, thatd be stupid.
It's an instakill for the vanguard role, you don't need its absolute damage absorption quality AND the benefit of the one shot if you absorbed too much. That's your decision; learn to throw it after a little absorption.
As a Rocket main, I'm starting to learn Invisible Woman more for those times I don't have a Punisher on my team. In general, though, I think people play Rocket incorrectly and that's why people rag on him so much. Either they don't reach his fullest potential, or they have teammates who don't. They hear that he's _just_ a healbot, so that's how they play.
I may be Bronze but I think that Jeff's ult has more nuance than just spitting ppl off the map. I do think it's also good to set up ambushes/surprise attacks by swallowing ur own teammates and spitting them out on the enemy when they least expect it
6:40 You assume Widow has to play long sightlines all the time or should primarily do that but she really plays at whatever range is best in the moment. Sometimes thats hardscoping into a choke from really far back, sometimes its mid-range in your backline and sometimes its close-range when someone is diving you or a support. People focus way too much on the 1shot-headshot thing when you can literally true-combo her kick into a kill on someone whos not getting healed. (like someone diving you)
@@thegaspoweredjohnnyjohn3972 I dont think she has a specific job and is somewhat versatile. I'd say she depends more on which map is being played but don't take my word for it, thats just my own experience. I don't care for the enemy comp or my comp as much as I care which map im on.
@@Gressil8020 that’s still a problem tho, versatility can also mean a “jack of all traits, master of none” situation, the character has multiple uses but isn’t the best in any of those uses, Hawkeye has reliable one shot, Wolverine has great dive capabilities, Mr fantastic has survivability, storm has consistent high damage, so they shine the most in their respective roles Maps are a strong point too, but the thing about the map is that as long as you know the routes and layouts, you’re typically already on the right track
@@thegaspoweredjohnnyjohn3972I think Widow outputs some decent damage if you’re hitting her shots. She is pretty versatile and does not need as much team comp built around her as you might think. What she has over Hawkeye and Hela is her mobility with her constant jumps unlike Hawkeye which has 1 jump and a “get of me slash”, or hela which has her crow escape which is good. I find with widow you can constantly take different angles more consistently. I think she definitely needs buffs but I would at least put her in the decent category she is not as bad as some people think.
@jihadmuhammad8492 I think a lot of it is self fulfilling. Everyone keeps repeating that she's bad so very few players take the time to player her. I think she needs a slight fire rate buff and maybe a buff to her batons, but otherwise she has all the tools to be a good hero. I don't remember if plasma burst one shots through support ults, but if they made it do so she's jump up a few rankings instantly
On the spiderman question, I'm pretty fine with seeing him without venom. But I play Squirrel Girl so mostly I'm appreciating that OP web bomb lol. I'm sure he enjoys the +15% damage though, I imagine that shortens his combo at best or eats through heals better at worst
Rocket best support in the game. Makes every fight a 7v6, and his ult can make it so you can actually burst through other support ults. And he just never dies. In triple suppprt meta, he’s absolutely an A tier hero. With punisher, he’s S.
I think Mr Fantastic has a similar situation as Cap. They're just disruptive and difficult to kill. I've seen some comps with either Cap or Fantastic to supplement high damage output picks with Bucky, Squirrel, or Hela. They make it SO difficult to actually penetrate the front line, and even if they aren't getting kills, they just apply so much pressure and disrupt forward playing tanks because they just don't die. I've seen more of them with triple support using them as a supplemental pseudo support.
Luna can auto counter most offensive pushes or instantly bail out your team with her ult. It's just an auto not lose button. If you are getting run on the front line though, she can get taken advantage of. Also i think Storm + Magneto can still one shot her easily. It's mostly resource management and baiting her ult though. She's def still S tier.
Yeah, Storm + Squirrel are slamming with triple support. If you face Storm, Squirrel, Luna, Mantis, Strange + 1 you're probably getting run through. Seen a strong combo with those and Bucky for high damage pressure and subbing for C&D for even more support. Unkillable comps in some situations and they're also just dishing out loads of damage and wipe potential. Add Magneto to that comp and you get even more. Very strong comp rn. I think Storm, Squirrel, Strange, Magneto or MK, Luna, C&D is pretty meta rn.
honestly the best list i have seen true on all of the picks especially moon knight every one be sleepin on him thinking he bad I literally get MVP every game with him and for Mr. fantastic he is indeed a sleeper i know some one who mains him and when I play with him he be taking my MVPs away from me and carry's hard
I scream internally every time I match up with an insta-lock Spider-man. Still have never been paired with a good one, and I've lost every game with a Spider-man player.
I believe Adam is the only one who really struggles against Dive. His only option is to kill the divers meanwhile Luna can freeze and just run, Jeff can run, Mantis can sleep and run, Loki can swap/turn invis or use rune and scream help in the meantime, Susan can push and turn invis, racoon do racoon stuff etc.
Most supports can survive dive just fine. Most have a self healing and cc to not be one-shot by a dps, they can stay with the other support and be healed mid dive and not die, an escape ability able to gain time for your team to help and the best ultimates in the game that makes them stall for so fucking long.
Glad this is your opinion based tier list because it's a dumb one 😂Squirrel girl in my gm lobbies sometimes gets banned due to how she has such high damage and cc 🙏she's definitely an A tier easily
Anyone saying Hulk isn’t S tier, Hulk is absolutely menacing for divers on their team… which means he is absolutely dominant in defending the backline. Ex. If your team isn’t being dived, or your not getting much action in the flanks, jump to the back line and get 2-3 hits on their support, then jump back. Tanking hits and creating aggro is killer when playing Hulk. You don’t go Rambo with Hulk like you would expect to like you do with Thor or Venom, you actually play conservative, and methodical on how you approach. Defending with your healers is just cake, and when you find a lone strangler on their team that you can take out while still being in LOS of your healers… easy kills, easy damage building to Big Hulk and to me, that is what gets me completely off the charts when I play him.
in bronze if you are not playing with hulk, Venom, thor, Scarlet, you you lose way more than you win, especially scarlet is going like 40-50/1-2 or something almost every game
I played Storm in Season 0, and seeing more people play her makes me glad and sad cause she gonna get nerfed, but I don't know if its ME but her Wind aura feels more fluid. Idk if its cause im so use to it but something feels better about it too
17:10 Squirrel Girl ultimate can kill through Luna snow or mantis ult. I'm not sure if Invisible Woman ultimate slows it down, or how fast Cloak and Dagger ult kills it but I know it can kill through them also.
Only in really closed in areas really+ you need to land every shot on Luna+ You need the team to shoot her. I’m not saying she’s not good(I actually think she can be excellent on some maps), just saying she can’t cancel it consistently
Hot take: with the recent Hawkeye nerf, he is only “slightly better” than Black Widow. He has a slower “reload” time per shot than Black Widow, and that is only if you are focusing on one-shot headshot kills. The head shot kill is the only thing that makes him better than Black Widow. Literally, Black Widow now has immensely better movement than Hawkeye with her recent movement buff. Her melee is better now that the range has increased and she can stun opponents and combo off it. I think what would make her even better, without giving her a one shot kill, is making her “reload” faster per each shot. That way she is balanced and viable, but not broken.
KarQ, do you intend to bring back the "One ___ tip against every hero" series for Rivals? That always helped me learn mat huos back in the day, id love to see that for this game
Punisher loki is so good rn. I get my ult before most of my team and can copy him when an enemy support pops their ult to counter it. Other 1 shot ults are good but there's just something about hearing "JUDGE. JURY. EXECUTIONER." and ripping through a luna ult like butter
I switch Cap with Hulk, I don't care what math or coordination there is. Cap is more mobile, can actually block damage, and has an ULT that lets him continue being good at everything instead of one thing (shooting projectiles, which is not Hulk-accurate).
The trick with Jeff is you HAVE to pay attention to timings. If you're able to do that, and you INSTA your ult, you can do some pretty strong ults with Jeff Just... make sure you spit out your teammates before tossing the enemy team off the edge (or jumping off to almost guarantee it.) Also pay attention to Jeff's sounds, because his little gurgle is a warning that you have like a second before he spits everyone out automatically. ANOTHER thing a lot of people don't understand about Jeff mains... is that we CAN be very VERY distracting... and a distraction that actually does the job well, is an ASSET to have on your team. Besides... Jeff cute and if you're the type of player that wants to be friendly with people, it's a good morale booster. (ESPECIALY, again, and I can not stress this enough... if you are a GOOD Jeff main.) I respect the position you placed him in, because I understand a LOT of people don't play Jeff the way I do... and plenty of others do play him very similarly... buuuut calling him niche is a bit of an understatment. I know he's a 1 star difficulty hero but that's because he's very VERY easy to learn how to play... but it takes an actual MINDSET to play him WELL. And it's a mindset most gamers these days, don't have.
He's also fantastic on an offangle/flank with a flanker. Enabling your flanker with a speed boost then jumping in the ground and swimming away makes him impossible to kill. He's a great duo queue pick
I think that Rocket is actually really good right now, but only in a 3 support comp. His ult kind of serves as a counterpoint to the usual stalling of the other top supports since his amplification actually allows to push through some of that bullshit if done right, especially if you also make use of the team-up with Punisher/Bucky. He's also a surprisingly effective tank shredder himself if he's actually allowed to attack instead of being relegated to heal spamming. Personally I see him in a similar role to Mantis in the current meta where he really shines as a more offensive off-healer. If we're looking at regular 2 support comps though, well.. he sucks. period.
lol no. rocket is pretty good even if you're playing 2 supports, especially if enemies have dive characters. rocket is really slippery with his jetpack and wall climb.
@@notsonatahe can stay alive and be pesky, but the other supports are just better. Its not really rockets fault because hes a balanced character and the other supports are not. But Luna Snow's ultimate is literally just better in every way.
The problem is that the meta is just so ult focused that his lack of 'win the fight' ult just makes him bad. If they have three supports with healing ults, and you bring rocket, you have one less than them. So as you trade ults in the team fight, they win.
Invis is really strong too. Just because invisibility is ridiculous. The push ability is pretty disruptive in these cqc stack fights too. You think you're gonna focus her down? Naw, she just disappears and there's nothing you can do. Seeing her run wild against range comp teams. Sue is causing a lot of fights to essentially be endless.
I think mobility is king rn. Hawkeye has terrible mobility. His one shot potential is not as strong anymore because everyone is spamming defensive ults and abilities. So just being really stagnant on the map and also struggling to be consistent has caused him to drop i feel.
In season zero storm had really good dmg once you got people within your circle. It was basically as gross as is now, just a tad less so. So if you played corners really well you did insane dmg. Now with them practically removing the dmg fall of and increasing her projectile speed, she does that disgusting dmg the entire time from across the map. I think now they just need to reduce her primary fire dmg slightly to compensate for the big buffs, and also probably revert the dmg increase to her right click because it was already very strong before the buffs.
@@Anivia92 she definitely got over buffed. I thought she was good on season 0 tbh. Not like the best, but not unplayable either like a lot of people claimed she was. I wouldn’t be surprised to see her damage or something get nerfed for the mid-season update
@ if the only thing they did was increase her projectile speed on her primary fire, it would’ve made her a meta character, imo. She didn’t need the damage buff on her primary. The falloff thing is nice but I don’t really think was necessary
@dreyfus37_65 I think the better thing to do now would be to meet somewhere in the middle of where it is now vs where it was before the buff, because the other thing people forget is she's an anchor character this season so she also has a 5% dmg buff, and if and when that falls off I don't want her to be bad again. Haha
I like the consistency on her primary, and if they kept changing it it'd be real annoying to relearn to aim every season. I think adjusting her falloff range and honestly, increasing her ult cost, would be quite effective. Her ult is way too strong to be that easy to get.
@@superkun3478 She'll be in every wining 6 if picked. Just because of the primary attack. Sanctum Sanctorum map is just perfect for her because of the lots of small rooms. Even her ult is not trash when there is 4 walls and ceiling preventing you from escape. She easily steals other people frags. Also everyone picking dps, which have a small amount of HP and if she comes to you from behind you'll probably loose it. This mode and map is best conditions she'll ever got. Vanguards are counter her pretty good tho because of huge amount of HP
@Аноним-д3я i mean 6 people is a lot but even then I see more Bucky, black panther, magick, Spider-Man. Mister fantastic is also better than her in there but he's not picked as much cause he's new and weird. Yea I think she's better in doom just by the nature of the mode. But again, that doesn't mean she's meta in there.
I just love the war going on between tierlist makers and Peni fanboys. Just cause the enemy team is too stupid to shut Peni down doesn't mean she's a good char. Literally every character in this game does well if you don't stop them. It's how the char can adapt when the enemy team is actively putting effort into stopping them that determines the power of a char. I've convinced that the exact reason Peni has access to stun every 3 seconds is because the devs are very aware of just how bad of a tank she is otherwise.
@ It happens every now and then, but rarely. It's usually when a dps is doing so bad they swap to be a third support, by then its too late. Only seen it attempted in sincerity like twice.
I got to one above all (152) maining storm in season 0. Last season, my TEAMMATES would ban Storm so I couldn’t play her. It’s just such a huge turn around to where she’s always banned now cause she’s so good.😭
I get its opinion, HOWEVER scarlet witch is not top tier, BUT she is actually a very good pick for backlining the supports im in high diamond and I still run games taking out the supports and taking control. She has a skill ceiling and you just gotta know how to use her correctly. But hey thats just my opinion ;P
My only hope is that all the ults in this game will get nerfed, especially the ult rate of everyone and 5 support “nobody dies for 8-12 seconds” buttons. Triple support with def ults is pure cancer.
literally every time i see a tier list and people put storm in S i get confused because honestly not much changed she got slight damage buffs on her right click and chain lightning that are not really noticeable to me and her basic attack got higher speed which i think is a really good buff and i feel it alot but people really only talk about how her attack pierces and her ult, but they were not touched. I will die on the hill that she was always good people just sucked at playing her
Her ult has always been good it’s just since nobody played her it really wasn’t a problem so now people are realizing how crazy her ult is. I think she is stronger now because she is more consistent outside of her ult, she just has more pressure and presence in matches.
@mactallica9293 I played storm for about half of season 0 and main her now and the damage buff is not really noticeable the speed buff on her primary is but still nobody talks about them they only talk about her alt and her pierce
tbh i don't really care about adhering to or abiding by the tier list, i just want to make Winter Soldier say AGAIN as many times as possible and feel like i was responsible for winning fights because i personally killed every single enemy.
@percthug you do realize that winning with a 44% winrate character takes more skill than winning with a 54% winrate character, right...? bah what am I saying, you're not gonna listen anyways
@percthug playing a statistically weaker champ means you need to put in more effort/have more skill in other aspects of the game (macro for example) in order to succeed
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Play whatever you want tbh
You say that and then "you'll be avoided" category. Like my guy. You wanna play with them or not?
@@proseedda3941 nope, but you're allowed to play whatever you want you'll just be avoided
Why does the community want widow to not one shot in ow but wants her buffed in marvel?
@@GladiatorInBed I don't want her buffed, I'm glad the sniper is low tier in this game and I think they should keep her there
@@GladiatorInBed I don't want to be one shot across the map thanks
The only time i ever see a good Spiderman is on the enemy team when I'm healing.
Every damn time
He's the Genji of Rivals I swear
And always teamed up with a Venom.
28:56 ohhhh it's FEAR magneto, not FEEL magneto lmao
Facts
Ahh, the nostalgia of all the old OW creators having their comeback is pure bliss
Seeing all the overwatch creators views go crazy right now is amazing
I’m so happy that you’re uploading more videos about the game
Not like there’s any overwatch content to make 😢
@@okokokok1457 Nobody watches overwatch anymore, so I completely understand him
@@Аноним-д3яYes people do
I do think Fantastic is a sleeper pick. If you are consistent with his full rotation and properly understand how Elasticity works, he's borderline unkillable. It's literally the insane sustain issue Panther had in Season 0 but now the entire hero is built around entering that state of sustain.
Yeah same but I think his ult needs some major buffs
Agreed, I've played Mr.F this season on maps where BP is not good ro the comp just doesn't allow me to use him to his full potential and I almost never die with him unless I am literally jumped by the entire team. That is insane value, the common trap I see with other Fantastic players is they don't know when(or how) to switch off his inflate to keep the shields and use his other abilities. His ult needs a buff but it's still good when used along with other more devastating ults to keep people from running away or in low ceiling areas where the damage comes faster.
Edit: OH and he doesn't care about Magneto or Strange shields he goes right through them AND can hit multiple people at once!
His diaper walk totally tanks a storm ult. My man is strong. If he could use diaper walk in his buff form and he gained shields during his ult he’d be OP.
@@elite18commander7 It could use maybe a little more damage, but even as is I've been having success with it. After I complete a cycle to 100 and jump on the backline with big boy mode, I'll get a hit in or two and people naturally try to kite away. I think this is one of the best times to use his ult, the slow stacks and damage stacks make them trying to get out much harder and even if he isn't doing tons of damage, the space created and slows make them easy clean up for the team and if they retreat into a small room, even better. I rarely ult thinking I NEED a kill, and especially never to try and solo ult someone. I do it more when they try to back out, and/or to create much needed space.
He's amazing at peeling off divers from his supports as well. The most fun I've had with him is being like a guard dog to the supports against a dive heavy team. His lingering hitboxes and command grabs make it not very mechanically demanding either.
I swear every streamer says Hulk is S tier but I have never seen a good hulk player, including me. I jump anywhere near the enemy team I’m baby banner instantly IT’S BAD
He does better in higher elos with good coordination.
Well yeah you could say that with any character from any game ever
Probably a conspiracy then.
His team up makes him good
I suck as hulk, but I love having a hulk as strange. The team up is just so strong that idc what the hulk player is doing, as long as they're hulk
Fellow Mr Fantastic players, constantly be in big form with other tank, and go for back line. Squishies absolutely crumble so his area dmg in big form.
yeah every game i play my team just ignores mr fantastic and he never diess
Thank you that’s me homie. I consistently get mvp or svp as Mr fantastic bc he generates so much value and he has a pull to cause chaos
You can hit multiple ppl with his auto attack, when swinging like with Reinhard.
Never saw someone mentioning it, or using it.
Tho you only get the charge once.
Thumbnail made me think I had watched this video before with the red bar. :o
me too I was confused for a sec
Yeah I really hate when creators do that, so I'm only going to bother watching parts of the video instead of the whole thing.
Your opinion sucks. My Bronze opinion is better.
you're onto something
KarQ really hit us with that Eminem pose in the thumbnail 😭
THANK YOU for the good opinion on Rocket, you actually describe him properly, he's decent and at best good, he's NOT bad and he's NOT as good as the other supports.
I’m okay with people saying Scarlet Witch is cheeks because she’ll just get buffed but I do well with her and have made it to Diamond 3 with her, Mr. Fantastic, and C&D
This guy is sick not to like Scarlet Witch 🤢🤮🤢
Rocket is a low death hero, it's a healer that can kill any character that takes it 1v1 if you hit headshots he can dash, he can climb on walls. he can shoot while escaping and still heal himself and the team. If you just want the whole team to basically be always healed slightly then rocket is the best. He's surprisingly what id consider to be a great dive healer. If your teammates are out of position you can bounce the heals down halls and it wont be used by others
facts. people are sleeping on rocket alot. you can easily defend yourself and weasel your way out of tricky situations. i top heal on rocket easily just by staying in the backline and bouncing heals around.
@ rocket’s job is to make everyone feel like they have a damage reduction. He’s the only one that can solo heal a bad positional team. He’s held back by his ult not changing the tide of the game. Buffing his healing just made good even better. I will say the one thing that stinks about him is not being able to shoot while healing. You won’t get any dmg output if you’re healing and his damage drop off being so short ruins his midrange potential which is where he doesn’t have to constantly heal
I've basically been maining Magneto (I call it being in Magneto jail cause I don't tend to have a choice in the matter, but he's fun) and he feels extremely strong even in the situations of being the only tank on the team. He just doesn’t die sometimes. I think the one issue he has is that his ultimate varies in strength a lot depending on the enemy team.
His other major flaw is that his team up is crippled by Wanda being a throw pick right now which is kinda sad because the sword beams make him way more scary.
25:29 KarQ singing the jeff song is something I didn't know I needed
Absolutely killed me when he was naming every hero that counters Jeff ult and all of them had counters to it, but "he's probably fucked" with Hawkeye lol.
I think as the season progresses people will get more used to fighting Storm and she won't really be considered quite as op as some people think. She has a pretty big weakness in that she's very slow, and being a flying character that can't really hide behind your tank, and no movement ability like Iron Man, as people get more used to aiming at her with Hulk jumps, or the Helas, Star Lords, and Punishers up in the ranks, she'll go lower in people's op vision. Though at the moment I do agree she's probably the best Duelist just for the fact she buffs everyone else around
She’s not really meant to be played high up. The higher you go, the less you’re boosting your team.
Her being able to fly doesn’t mean you have to be high up in the sky - you can (and should) still play near your tank, and around cover.
Disagree entirely. Storm is a character you want to play closer to the ground, and for 3 main reasons.
- 1, your boost Aura may have a massive radius, but you also want to catch enemies in it when you activate the amp, since the damage aura will strike enemies with lightning for tons of burst, and the speed aura will actually slow enemies and allow for easy chasedowns.
- The 2nd reason isn't as obvious, but it's her primary fire. Her wind blades actually pierce targets, and you can build ults INSANELY fast against grouped up enemies. There have been games where I get ult before or right after capping the point on domination.
- The 3rd and final reason is because she's a flying character, and you do NOT want to have people sniping you out of the sky with ease. Play lower and around cover, and you'll live way longer.
Also this: Storm is NOT slow. She may FEEL slow because she doesn't move much in her animations, but she's quite quick just because of speed aura. Her ability to fly also means she wastes less time getting to high ground via. stairs or otherwise. Her kit is kind of loaded. Plus she CAN go to the sky box if needed to go over rooftops or play around tall Pillars and distract enemies by forcing them to look up. I just wouldn't default to that.
So they DID make iron man louder? I was wondering why he was so loud now
They fixed a bug he had, he made no sound before
Thats the thing, LOUD. In a shooter game you reward players paying attention on 'footstep sounds' and those who expect it. Buy ironman? they make the sprint and E a no skill level of loud to hear it. They fking kill big portion of his gameplay. No other duelist bullshits themself like this.
@@MICROKNIGHT3000 he’s a flying character that can go unnoticed without it, if u think he’s to loud that just an opinion
@@darwinmiclis2342he’s extremely loud now though like you can legit hear him behind multiple buildings
What do you all think is an example of a 'best' designed character? 'Best' is obviously subjective but I really appreciate Magik being a combination of good strengths and weaknesses, definitely requiring skill to play, while not having a one button big AOE high DPS ult. I'd still prefer if her dash was easier to hit (cuz I'm bad) and her ult to not have so much animation lock going in and out but I'm pretty satisfied with how she plays right now.
Loki
Loki
Spidey, wolverine, hulk , mr fantastic, rocket
And obviously winter soldier
Loki, C&D, Invisible woman, winter solider and honestly.. Moon Knight
yo bro thanks for having the thumbnail be exactly what you put down for the tier list. no need to watch the video now, thanks!
Mr Fantastic is to supports what Wolverine is to tanks. If you focus squishes and learn his buttons you can dominate
I think supports fear black panther way more than fantastic
Support mains really dont fear fantastic lol. They fear psylocke,star lord and black panther
Players don't understand that you don't NEED to kill a Support necessarily, you just need them out of a fight so your team can get picks
I can simply just sleep or freeze you and slowly walk away.
There's nothing scary about Mr Fantastic though, he just slowly walks forward takes damage, activates his shield and then walks back. He pads out his numbers by doing this but isn't really having that much impact on the game. Even his damage numbers are padded because he's not really finishing people off, he's just poking them and feeding the ults of the enemy healers.
"When people are spit off the map in this game, their soul still exists."
Your takes on cloak and dagger, invisible woman, and Jeff are spot on!
All the supports!! (I’m a support main💀)
Ima be honest, give it 2 weeks or so and im guessing that SQ pick rate will go nuclear. That burst damage is no joke when you get the aim down, and a stun that can ricochet? The only weakness is really her hitbox, but that's what happens when you get blessed with them ultra thick genes 💔
As a Magneto main I’m pleasantly surprised to see him placed so high.
His kit feels very solid and he has tons of staying power but I always thought his ult left a lot to be desired, especially compared to other powerful Vanguard ults like Strange and Groot. I feel like it needs a higher cap on its damage absorption considering it can get insta-cancelled by certain Duelist ults which is exactly what it’s supposed to counter.
his ult could do with a buff but you gotta save it for healer ults, then its amazing
I think instead of ult breaking magneto should be just forced to throw it in 1 secondish duration after it hits the limit. I don't think removing the break mechanic would make him OP tbh.
his ult is fine if you just save for a support ult, especially cloak. also really good against star lord ult. if ur expected to pull up meteor and tank an entire punisher ult idk what to tell you, thatd be stupid.
It's an instakill for the vanguard role, you don't need its absolute damage absorption quality AND the benefit of the one shot if you absorbed too much. That's your decision; learn to throw it after a little absorption.
surprised? why? he's consistently been one of the best tanks for the entire time it's been out...
As a Rocket main, I'm starting to learn Invisible Woman more for those times I don't have a Punisher on my team. In general, though, I think people play Rocket incorrectly and that's why people rag on him so much. Either they don't reach his fullest potential, or they have teammates who don't. They hear that he's _just_ a healbot, so that's how they play.
Namor groot and Loki are busted together, it’s a freaking tower defence game
My thing with Spider-Man is even if you kill him he comes back from his spawn in the next 15seconds I would vote for him to be higher (imo)
Good tier list bro
Cool video, anyway, omw to force penni every map
As a Spider-Man player, I gotta say KarQ-
...wtf is wrong with you, you forgot the hyphen on the time stamp-
Edit: Thanks for fixing babe, love you ❤
I think he fixed it
I may be Bronze but I think that Jeff's ult has more nuance than just spitting ppl off the map. I do think it's also good to set up ambushes/surprise attacks by swallowing ur own teammates and spitting them out on the enemy when they least expect it
6:40 You assume Widow has to play long sightlines all the time or should primarily do that but she really plays at whatever range is best in the moment. Sometimes thats hardscoping into a choke from really far back, sometimes its mid-range in your backline and sometimes its close-range when someone is diving you or a support. People focus way too much on the 1shot-headshot thing when you can literally true-combo her kick into a kill on someone whos not getting healed. (like someone diving you)
I don’t think it’s that she’s bad per se, it’s just that there are multiple characters that are just capable of doing her job, but way better
@@thegaspoweredjohnnyjohn3972 I dont think she has a specific job and is somewhat versatile. I'd say she depends more on which map is being played but don't take my word for it, thats just my own experience. I don't care for the enemy comp or my comp as much as I care which map im on.
@@Gressil8020 that’s still a problem tho, versatility can also mean a “jack of all traits, master of none” situation, the character has multiple uses but isn’t the best in any of those uses, Hawkeye has reliable one shot, Wolverine has great dive capabilities, Mr fantastic has survivability, storm has consistent high damage, so they shine the most in their respective roles
Maps are a strong point too, but the thing about the map is that as long as you know the routes and layouts, you’re typically already on the right track
@@thegaspoweredjohnnyjohn3972I think Widow outputs some decent damage if you’re hitting her shots. She is pretty versatile and does not need as much team comp built around her as you might think. What she has over Hawkeye and Hela is her mobility with her constant jumps unlike Hawkeye which has 1 jump and a “get of me slash”, or hela which has her crow escape which is good. I find with widow you can constantly take different angles more consistently.
I think she definitely needs buffs but I would at least put her in the decent category she is not as bad as some people think.
@jihadmuhammad8492 I think a lot of it is self fulfilling. Everyone keeps repeating that she's bad so very few players take the time to player her. I think she needs a slight fire rate buff and maybe a buff to her batons, but otherwise she has all the tools to be a good hero. I don't remember if plasma burst one shots through support ults, but if they made it do so she's jump up a few rankings instantly
Strange in bronze-plat is so good. To force a group up with a portal is such a nice thing to have in a TEAM GAME. *PLEASE GROUP UP*
Strange is good from Bronze to eSports, he's good everywhere 🤣
On the spiderman question, I'm pretty fine with seeing him without venom. But I play Squirrel Girl so mostly I'm appreciating that OP web bomb lol. I'm sure he enjoys the +15% damage though, I imagine that shortens his combo at best or eats through heals better at worst
Groot combo ult to team wipe is crazy rn. Groot + MK or Storm or even WS ult auto wipes, it's insane.
Rocket best support in the game. Makes every fight a 7v6, and his ult can make it so you can actually burst through other support ults. And he just never dies. In triple suppprt meta, he’s absolutely an A tier hero. With punisher, he’s S.
I think Mr Fantastic has a similar situation as Cap. They're just disruptive and difficult to kill. I've seen some comps with either Cap or Fantastic to supplement high damage output picks with Bucky, Squirrel, or Hela. They make it SO difficult to actually penetrate the front line, and even if they aren't getting kills, they just apply so much pressure and disrupt forward playing tanks because they just don't die. I've seen more of them with triple support using them as a supplemental pseudo support.
Luna can auto counter most offensive pushes or instantly bail out your team with her ult. It's just an auto not lose button. If you are getting run on the front line though, she can get taken advantage of. Also i think Storm + Magneto can still one shot her easily. It's mostly resource management and baiting her ult though. She's def still S tier.
Yeah, Storm + Squirrel are slamming with triple support. If you face Storm, Squirrel, Luna, Mantis, Strange + 1 you're probably getting run through. Seen a strong combo with those and Bucky for high damage pressure and subbing for C&D for even more support. Unkillable comps in some situations and they're also just dishing out loads of damage and wipe potential. Add Magneto to that comp and you get even more. Very strong comp rn. I think Storm, Squirrel, Strange, Magneto or MK, Luna, C&D is pretty meta rn.
honestly the best list i have seen true on all of the picks especially moon knight every one be sleepin on him thinking he bad I literally get MVP every game with him
and for Mr. fantastic he is indeed a sleeper i know some one who mains him and when I play with him he be taking my MVPs away from me and carry's hard
Reminder: DON'T get influenced by content creators, play any character u want and try to actually get GUD at it
I scream internally every time I match up with an insta-lock Spider-man. Still have never been paired with a good one, and I've lost every game with a Spider-man player.
Good list, most others put way too much chars in Meta/S tier.
One thing slept on is besides racoon cloak and dagger is probably the only other support that can stay alive vs dive, i gues invis woman too
Mantis can survive if you can lands shot and she has some distance
loki and jeff
I believe Adam is the only one who really struggles against Dive. His only option is to kill the divers meanwhile Luna can freeze and just run, Jeff can run, Mantis can sleep and run, Loki can swap/turn invis or use rune and scream help in the meantime, Susan can push and turn invis, racoon do racoon stuff etc.
Most supports can survive dive just fine. Most have a self healing and cc to not be one-shot by a dps, they can stay with the other support and be healed mid dive and not die, an escape ability able to gain time for your team to help and the best ultimates in the game that makes them stall for so fucking long.
@FransizSefKurbaga you don't run mantis and luna can kill every diver.
Glad this is your opinion based tier list because it's a dumb one 😂Squirrel girl in my gm lobbies sometimes gets banned due to how she has such high damage and cc 🙏she's definitely an A tier easily
Anyone saying Hulk isn’t S tier, Hulk is absolutely menacing for divers on their team… which means he is absolutely dominant in defending the backline.
Ex. If your team isn’t being dived, or your not getting much action in the flanks, jump to the back line and get 2-3 hits on their support, then jump back. Tanking hits and creating aggro is killer when playing Hulk. You don’t go Rambo with Hulk like you would expect to like you do with Thor or Venom, you actually play conservative, and methodical on how you approach. Defending with your healers is just cake, and when you find a lone strangler on their team that you can take out while still being in LOS of your healers… easy kills, easy damage building to Big Hulk and to me, that is what gets me completely off the charts when I play him.
in bronze if you are not playing with hulk, Venom, thor, Scarlet, you you lose way more than you win, especially scarlet is going like 40-50/1-2 or something almost every game
I played Storm in Season 0, and seeing more people play her makes me glad and sad cause she gonna get nerfed, but I don't know if its ME but her Wind aura feels more fluid. Idk if its cause im so use to it but something feels better about it too
As a peni main I see this as an absolute win because it means she's getting a buff next season. Right?
17:10 Squirrel Girl ultimate can kill through Luna snow or mantis ult. I'm not sure if Invisible Woman ultimate slows it down, or how fast Cloak and Dagger ult kills it but I know it can kill through them also.
Only in really closed in areas really+ you need to land every shot on Luna+ You need the team to shoot her. I’m not saying she’s not good(I actually think she can be excellent on some maps), just saying she can’t cancel it consistently
Hot take: with the recent Hawkeye nerf, he is only “slightly better” than Black Widow. He has a slower “reload” time per shot than Black Widow, and that is only if you are focusing on one-shot headshot kills. The head shot kill is the only thing that makes him better than Black Widow. Literally, Black Widow now has immensely better movement than Hawkeye with her recent movement buff. Her melee is better now that the range has increased and she can stun opponents and combo off it. I think what would make her even better, without giving her a one shot kill, is making her “reload” faster per each shot. That way she is balanced and viable, but not broken.
Raw lock in Spider-Man leaves the most "GG go next" feeling in my soul. You just know you have to carry for 20 mins.
Nah iron fist is not that bad if you actually know how to use his kit
How so? He can't actually kill anything.
KarQ, do you intend to bring back the "One ___ tip against every hero" series for Rivals? That always helped me learn mat huos back in the day, id love to see that for this game
Believe he already has one for Namor and he said he's cooking up one for Cap
Why would anyone watch the video when the entire list is in the start
I just got Lord on Hulk yesterday. It's a great season.
Everything that can counter support defensive ults:
Magneto ult
Moon Knight ult
Punisher ult + damage boost
Namor ult
Iron Man ult
Scarlet Witch ult
Hawkeye primary
Widow primary + damage boost
Punisher shotgun
The zoom in on all the sus commentary is peak editing😂😂😂
Bump Magik up. She has the second highest win rate this season in GM+ lobbies (I’m #45 on the leaderboard this season)
Instalock Spider-Man is such a meme at this point. They’re always feeding and go 3/12 - “gg no heals”.
Punisher loki is so good rn. I get my ult before most of my team and can copy him when an enemy support pops their ult to counter it. Other 1 shot ults are good but there's just something about hearing "JUDGE. JURY. EXECUTIONER." and ripping through a luna ult like butter
I switch Cap with Hulk, I don't care what math or coordination there is. Cap is more mobile, can actually block damage, and has an ULT that lets him continue being good at everything instead of one thing (shooting projectiles, which is not Hulk-accurate).
The trick with Jeff is you HAVE to pay attention to timings. If you're able to do that, and you INSTA your ult, you can do some pretty strong ults with Jeff
Just... make sure you spit out your teammates before tossing the enemy team off the edge (or jumping off to almost guarantee it.)
Also pay attention to Jeff's sounds, because his little gurgle is a warning that you have like a second before he spits everyone out automatically.
ANOTHER thing a lot of people don't understand about Jeff mains... is that we CAN be very VERY distracting... and a distraction that actually does the job well, is an ASSET to have on your team.
Besides... Jeff cute and if you're the type of player that wants to be friendly with people, it's a good morale booster.
(ESPECIALY, again, and I can not stress this enough... if you are a GOOD Jeff main.)
I respect the position you placed him in, because I understand a LOT of people don't play Jeff the way I do... and plenty of others do play him very similarly... buuuut calling him niche is a bit of an understatment.
I know he's a 1 star difficulty hero but that's because he's very VERY easy to learn how to play... but it takes an actual MINDSET to play him WELL. And it's a mindset most gamers these days, don't have.
He's also fantastic on an offangle/flank with a flanker. Enabling your flanker with a speed boost then jumping in the ground and swimming away makes him impossible to kill. He's a great duo queue pick
I think that Rocket is actually really good right now, but only in a 3 support comp. His ult kind of serves as a counterpoint to the usual stalling of the other top supports since his amplification actually allows to push through some of that bullshit if done right, especially if you also make use of the team-up with Punisher/Bucky. He's also a surprisingly effective tank shredder himself if he's actually allowed to attack instead of being relegated to heal spamming. Personally I see him in a similar role to Mantis in the current meta where he really shines as a more offensive off-healer. If we're looking at regular 2 support comps though, well.. he sucks. period.
lol no. rocket is pretty good even if you're playing 2 supports, especially if enemies have dive characters. rocket is really slippery with his jetpack and wall climb.
@@notsonatahe can stay alive and be pesky, but the other supports are just better. Its not really rockets fault because hes a balanced character and the other supports are not. But Luna Snow's ultimate is literally just better in every way.
The problem is that the meta is just so ult focused that his lack of 'win the fight' ult just makes him bad. If they have three supports with healing ults, and you bring rocket, you have one less than them. So as you trade ults in the team fight, they win.
Groot is SO underrated still. Walls are just an area-dependent mercy blue beam. So far dps don’t like to shoot stuck enemies yet. All in due time.
Thor is insane if you play like a dive bombing duelist from heights lol. So much fun!
Invis is really strong too. Just because invisibility is ridiculous. The push ability is pretty disruptive in these cqc stack fights too. You think you're gonna focus her down? Naw, she just disappears and there's nothing you can do. Seeing her run wild against range comp teams. Sue is causing a lot of fights to essentially be endless.
I've seen way too many Lord Spideys that whiff so hard even with a Venom and never use it
I think mobility is king rn. Hawkeye has terrible mobility. His one shot potential is not as strong anymore because everyone is spamming defensive ults and abilities. So just being really stagnant on the map and also struggling to be consistent has caused him to drop i feel.
In season zero storm had really good dmg once you got people within your circle. It was basically as gross as is now, just a tad less so. So if you played corners really well you did insane dmg. Now with them practically removing the dmg fall of and increasing her projectile speed, she does that disgusting dmg the entire time from across the map. I think now they just need to reduce her primary fire dmg slightly to compensate for the big buffs, and also probably revert the dmg increase to her right click because it was already very strong before the buffs.
@@Anivia92 she definitely got over buffed. I thought she was good on season 0 tbh. Not like the best, but not unplayable either like a lot of people claimed she was. I wouldn’t be surprised to see her damage or something get nerfed for the mid-season update
@dreyfus37_65 i definitely thought she needed some love, but they have her a lot of it haha
@ if the only thing they did was increase her projectile speed on her primary fire, it would’ve made her a meta character, imo. She didn’t need the damage buff on her primary. The falloff thing is nice but I don’t really think was necessary
@dreyfus37_65 I think the better thing to do now would be to meet somewhere in the middle of where it is now vs where it was before the buff, because the other thing people forget is she's an anchor character this season so she also has a 5% dmg buff, and if and when that falls off I don't want her to be bad again. Haha
I like the consistency on her primary, and if they kept changing it it'd be real annoying to relearn to aim every season. I think adjusting her falloff range and honestly, increasing her ult cost, would be quite effective. Her ult is way too strong to be that easy to get.
Rocket i feel people underestimate the value of the beacon. Getting someone instantly back into the fight is strong value
I main Namor. When I see Spider Man, I see my takoyakis gonna have spider for lunch.
OWtubers getting hit by that BORN AGAIN is just great
Getting Vietnam flashbacks to Mercy res
Bc of the new storm projectile speed I've seen black widow and storm be nasty bc of the hitscan one tap
Scarlet Whitch is meta for a doom match. You know what I'm talking about if you are 1% of people who actually play this mode
Please tell me I been wanting to play her
I've played it a decent amount, id say she's definitely popular but idk about "meta"
Bucky is meta if you are good, Iron Fist if you are bad.
@@superkun3478 She'll be in every wining 6 if picked. Just because of the primary attack. Sanctum Sanctorum map is just perfect for her because of the lots of small rooms. Even her ult is not trash when there is 4 walls and ceiling preventing you from escape. She easily steals other people frags. Also everyone picking dps, which have a small amount of HP and if she comes to you from behind you'll probably loose it.
This mode and map is best conditions she'll ever got. Vanguards are counter her pretty good tho because of huge amount of HP
@Аноним-д3я i mean 6 people is a lot but even then I see more Bucky, black panther, magick, Spider-Man. Mister fantastic is also better than her in there but he's not picked as much cause he's new and weird. Yea I think she's better in doom just by the nature of the mode. But again, that doesn't mean she's meta in there.
Are we gonna get karq monthly videos on marbel rivals?
Everyone is loving Cloak and Dagger and they have a 43% win rate in GM and above.
Is this Sajam Slam participant KarQ??? Huge
I just love the war going on between tierlist makers and Peni fanboys. Just cause the enemy team is too stupid to shut Peni down doesn't mean she's a good char.
Literally every character in this game does well if you don't stop them. It's how the char can adapt when the enemy team is actively putting effort into stopping them that determines the power of a char.
I've convinced that the exact reason Peni has access to stun every 3 seconds is because the devs are very aware of just how bad of a tank she is otherwise.
I'm only a lowly gold player currently, but man am i kinda glad. Triple support rarely happens in gold, and 3 support meta sounds AWFUL and unfun.
triple strategist happens in bronze
I’m between high silver and low gold right now and about 75% of my games I have 4 Damage heroes, 1 Tank and 1 Support lol
@ It happens every now and then, but rarely. It's usually when a dps is doing so bad they swap to be a third support, by then its too late.
Only seen it attempted in sincerity like twice.
i think triple support is overrated and a equally good 2-2-2 comp will always beat it but triple support is viable
@@ArmedandDangerous918this tbh. I think triple dps especially cooks it because you win in the neutral
I was gonna say!! When did they add the Ironman flight sound… it’s so obnoxiously loud you can’t sneak anymore.
I got to one above all (152) maining storm in season 0. Last season, my TEAMMATES would ban Storm so I couldn’t play her. It’s just such a huge turn around to where she’s always banned now cause she’s so good.😭
I get its opinion, HOWEVER scarlet witch is not top tier, BUT she is actually a very good pick for backlining the supports im in high diamond and I still run games taking out the supports and taking control. She has a skill ceiling and you just gotta know how to use her correctly. But hey thats just my opinion ;P
When ever I play against her in diamond I just simply self heal and burst her down.
I had the most demonic spiderman yesterday, he lost both games I was in but most ppl had like 20 kills and he had 50, his name was skibidi rizz 😭😭
The way he perfectly described the only game where i got mvp as widow
I've legit seen Squirrel players dropping 40k + damage. The burst and insanely high damage potential is running lobbies. Seriously.
Who else just go straight till the end of the video to see the tier list 😂😂
idk why but i like your takes more than flats'
Wait so why do you say invisible woman can jump out of Jeff’s ult, but Hawkeye can’t? Are their jumps that drastically different?
Height wise yeah.
You forgot rockets dps being a tank shredder on close range
(ALSO using rockets ult + ammo overload has one of the most powerful dps ive ever seen)
Jarvis, invest in quieter stealth armor pronto
My only hope is that all the ults in this game will get nerfed, especially the ult rate of everyone and 5 support “nobody dies for 8-12 seconds” buttons. Triple support with def ults is pure cancer.
literally every time i see a tier list and people put storm in S i get confused because honestly not much changed she got slight damage buffs on her right click and chain lightning that are not really noticeable to me and her basic attack got higher speed which i think is a really good buff and i feel it alot but people really only talk about how her attack pierces and her ult, but they were not touched. I will die on the hill that she was always good people just sucked at playing her
Her ult has always been good it’s just since nobody played her it really wasn’t a problem so now people are realizing how crazy her ult is.
I think she is stronger now because she is more consistent outside of her ult, she just has more pressure and presence in matches.
That made her attack stronger and faster.
It's like when they made soldier 76 do more damage per shot.
Dramatically changes them
@mactallica9293 I played storm for about half of season 0 and main her now and the damage buff is not really noticeable the speed buff on her primary is but still nobody talks about them they only talk about her alt and her pierce
@drake753 Killing people faster is noticeable lol that's the point of the game
tbh i don't really care about adhering to or abiding by the tier list, i just want to make Winter Soldier say AGAIN as many times as possible and feel like i was responsible for winning fights because i personally killed every single enemy.
I think they quietly buffed sg's ult, i used to not die as it and it's been bouncing at weird angles to hit me in succession
i got 2 accounts in eternity with wanda, she really just needs a reliable ult and bug fixes
doesnt deserve a reliable ult when character takes 0 skill or planning
@percthug you do realize that winning with a 44% winrate character takes more skill than winning with a 54% winrate character, right...?
bah what am I saying, you're not gonna listen anyways
@@hedidit55 44% winrate doesnt make the character difficult
@@hedidit55 47% winrate btw
@percthug playing a statistically weaker champ means you need to put in more effort/have more skill in other aspects of the game (macro for example) in order to succeed
Cloak and dagger is insane
Squirrel girl can jump out of the Jeff ult. I’ve done it multiple times
I always thought you had to keep Adam's rez hidden. So the squad doesn't get destroyed coming back in then soul bond.