Checking out the Tapuino Reloaded
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Checking out the Tapuino Reloaded that Edu Arana made and sent me. A nifty little device based on an Arduino emulating a C64/C16/VIC-20 Datasette. The "Reloaded" version is a reworked SMD flavor of the original. Best of all, the whole project is open source so you can make your own if you want to!
You can buy the Tapuino Reloaded from Edu's Arananet: www.arananet.n...
Here's the GitHub of the project with all files necessary to make the hardware yourself: github.com/ara...
The original Tapuino project by sweetlimre is here: github.com/swe...
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My favourite RUclipsr is back! Yay!
Thanks Neil. *blushes*
Have to follow then!
stop apologising! real life gets in the way. you don't owe us anything. it's great to see you back, keep up the good work.
You're probably right. Still felt a bit weird to get all the support without doing anything really so I needed to say it again (it's the last time I apologise, I promise... ;)) Feels good to be back. :)
OMG! this review is so cool, also you come back! thanks for the review Jan!
Thanks Edu! It's a cool little device I'm going to use a lot in the future. :)
I vaguely remember you mentioned a case for the thing on Twitter. Is it available somewhere or did I get that wrong?
Jan Beta no case. But maybe i could design one in 3d 👍
Yay!! Love your back!!
Thanks Howard. Feels good to be making videos again. :)
"It has a spring sound...*bwoingoingoing* You shoudn't do that, probably" :D
It was an accident!! ;D
I am glad you're back! Boy I remember those days of datasettes. :) I had one for my Atari 800xl and my C64. :) I saved all I could to get a disk drive (and a fastload cart. hehe.)
Welcome back, sir!
Thanks James! Yes, the glorious days of the datasette. :)
Nice to see you back Jan, love your uploads.
Thanks Kent! Feels good to be back. :)
Cool that you sorted out the personal stuff. Welcome back Jan.
Thanks mate. :)
Welcome back and thanks for all great videos 🤗
Thanks for sticking around. :)
Thumbs up even before I watched the video. Welcome back! Now on to the show!
Thank you kind sir. Hope you enjoyed the show. :)
Great to see you back Jan, i have a similar device for my c64c and Atari 800xl, such a brilliant invention
Thank you. Yes, these are very handy. Hope to experiment with saving stuff soon, too. :)
Good to see you back Jan. Looking sweet! All the gang are in the comments too. Great to have you back.
Thank you sir. It's a relief to be back. :)
Welcome back =D
Thanks Chris. Good to be back. :)
Finally the start of the new season of my favorite German retro computer renovation TV show! I was worried the host had sold out, moved to Los Angeles, and this channel would now be a cooking show or something. :D
Haha, I'm not a bad cook actually (at least that's what I am told). Maybe I'll do a second channel sometime. ;)
I’m a newcomer to your channel and absolutely love the videos. I have a cased Tapuino which works great and I also love the loading sequences, especially US GOLD games!
Keep up the great work!
Andy, UK
Good to see you back, we missed your videos.
Thank you. Feels great to be back to making videos. :)
good to have you back Jan. hope you are doing ok mate. Keep doing the great videos!!
Thanks Nick! Feels good to be back to making videos again. :)
Hi Jan ihave problem with my tapuino it say device not found what it can be?
Fantastic to have you back, Jan! \o/
Thanks Paul. Feels great to be making things again. :)
sometimes a good break does a world of good, it's good to have you back Jan look forward to new videos
Thanks Brad. Feels good to make videos again. :)
Jan Beta no worries always love your videos thinking about getting myself a commodore 64 so watching your videos has been a HUGE help with some aspects and recommendations of owning one
ahhh thats the stuff, loading bars, and sloow loading, good to see you back :)
Yes, can't beat the nostalgia of tape loaders. :)
Great to have you back, Jan.
Thanks Rob. So good to be back. :)
Just lit up when I saw your post notification! Great to see you back tinkering, Herr Beta.
Thanks! Feels great to be back. :)
Great to have you back!
Great to see you back!
Thanks! :)
It is really great gadget and easy to make. All you need is arduino nano, optoocupler, one resistor, LCD or OLED, few pins/connectors/sockets and dupont wires (all-in-all some 10$). I made one with vero board and other with my home made single layer PCB. I had to redesign the original PCB layout a little, to be easier to make at home. Original design is hard for the toner transfer and etching at home.
Welcome back! Glad you’re doing better.
Thanks Robert. Feels good to be making videos again. :)
GREAT! I make games with your videos playing in the background, lovely to hear you playing with the C64 again.
Oh, that's humbling. Glad you enjoy the videos. :)
I'm glad you make them Jan, I love my C64, I still play on it and it still inspires me, now stop reading comments and MAKE MORE VIDEOS :)
Glad you are back Jan.
Thank you! Feels good to be back. :)
Another great video. Thanks Jan.
Good to have you back Dude! Hope all is well with you! Alles bestens hoffentlich :)
Thanks, yes, all is (reasonably) well. Feels good to be making videos again and diving into the community. :)
So happy to see you back! Sometimes life gets in the way, hope you´re good and thank you for another great video!:)
I'm fine, thank you. :)
Good to see you back!
BTW. I've done tape drive emulator on Arduino before but I am still struggling to make floppy drive emulator in AVR. It works fine in ARM and FPGA but it's kind of difficult to do in AVR (not enough memory for a track).
pvc
Try an ESP32. ;)
I think they have 512KB of SRAM, and the dual-core 240 MHz CPU. Usually only around £4-5 now.
They should have plenty enough IO pins for a floppy emu. Would still require input buffers and open-drain drivers, of course.
I believe they do also support 4-bit SDIO for talking to the SD card, but that may take more tweaks to get working, and of course not necessary for a floppy emu.
I was attempting to read from a floppy drive using FPGA (DE1 board) last year. It was the first time I'd ever really worked with MFM decoding, and it hurt my brain for a while. lol
it made it a lot easier after I wrote a quick spreadsheet that listed all of the valid byte-to-MFM values though.
I also added some cells where I could input the data bits between the clock pulses, and it would generate the correct MFM word and data byte.
The FPGA reader was intended to be hooked up to an 8" floppy drive for reading some Quantel Paintbox disks, but I couldn't reliably even read a standard 3.5" PC format floppy.
The hardest part seemed to be knowing when to start shifting in the bits so I could lock on to the MFM words correctly.
It would work about 30% of the time as the disk rotated, so I don't really know what the main issue was.
In the end, somebody kindly offered to loan us a Kryoflux. lol
Most of the 8" disks where just font disks, so no real exciting images nor logos from the BBC in the 80s or 90s, sadly.
Rather than reinvent the wheel, would it be worth porting the FlashFloppy firmware to the ESP32 or other device?
Or are you doing it mainly for the technical challenge? :p
I may be attempting the MFM thing again soon, but this time for a big "SMD" hard drive (see the spin-up vid on my channel).
This is part of yet another Paintbox related thing, to try to recover the images from its original giant Fujitsu "Eagle" hard drive, which has a far scarier 1MB/s data rate.
Hopefully the MFM it spits out will be cleaner and more repeatable than a floppy drive, though. The NEC drive is just to experiment on, but at only £40 on eBay, I couldn't resist. lol
Wow, that reply ended up being quite a bit more of an essay than I intended. Apologies for the wall of text, but I will admit to being a tad hungover this morning. lol
I am doing it just for the fun. I don't intend it to be commercial product and just I like to squeeze as much as possible from underpowered hardware ;)
Great to see you back! Glad you're feeling better too!! :)
Only thing I'm not liking with the Tapuino is the pressure it's putting down on the socket when you press the buttons, not sure I'd be happy with that! if they could put more reactive buttons on or front mount them (so you can put your fingers on the back to support it), I think I'd be happier :)
Thanks mate! Feels good to be back! :)
I agree. The pressure on the board and connector is about the only downside to the form factor. That being said, you can of course attach an extension cable or something to prevent that.
You could go that, the screen would no longer be facing you though, it would lose cool points :p
Welcome back Jan 🙂
That arduino based datasette emulation is one of the most addon i am curious about. I am looking forward to new videos about it, especially about speed.
Thanks mate! Feels good to be back. There's definitely going to be more appearances of the little device in the future. :)
1541 Ultimate feels luxury... Welcome back BTW!
Yes! It is a luxury device for sure. ;)
Ah. Yes. The lights make a huge difference to the quality of the video, which looks great.
Great video Jan, nice to see you back
Thanks! So good to be back. :)
Nice to see you back!
Thanks Linus! Feels great to be back. :)
Holy Shit, you're alive. Welcome back mate
Thanks! Feels good to be back. :)
Nice to see you back! hope the best!
Thank you! Glad to be back. :)
Good to see you again Jan! I've missed you're videos and your enthusiasm to all things 8bit in nature :)
Thanks so much! Really glad to be back! :)
Mein Guter. Schön das du wieder sendest. Alles Gute für dich und lass dich nicht ärgern
Danke Dieter. Fühlt sich gut an, wieder Videos zu machen und mich auf die schöneren Dinge zu konzentrieren. :)
When you scroll through the list of games, do you have to press that button repeatedly or can you hold it down and scroll quickly? Thought of pressing that over and over sounds exhausting.
Looks like somebody is keeping up with the Commodore. 😎
Now it's time for me to watch a backlog of your videos with like 4 or 5 things in a row. My "Watch later" playlist is 47 item long at this point :)
Wow, hope you have fun and don't get bored too soon. ;)
Brilliant, just ordered one, mentioned you in the order notes.
I have one of these but its got a 2x16 display, and has a case that looks like a C2N that went through the spin dryer and shrunk. Good for showing friends who boast about their game load times on their whiz bang pcs what it was like in the 80's :)
I also thought Novaload was rather amusing when it first opens the grey and black screen and makes all the squeaks and pops before the game title screen appears. You missed it as you forgot to turn your speakers on until after the turbo loader had loaded
Check out my DIY tape emulator with direct TAP / PRG / SID loading through cassette port:
ruclips.net/video/SH20xUKPreI/видео.html
Wow, that's one cool device you have there. Great work sir!
All looks better when Jan Beta reviews it :)
Hey, I wanted this to be an honest review!! ;)
Very good to see you back. Interesting device. I hope they will increase the font size. Other than that a really great achievement by the tapuino team :)
Good point about the font size. It really is tiny! :)
See's a Jan Beta video.... can't click Play FAST ENOUGH! :) Welcome back Jan!
Thanks Dave. Feels great to be back. :)
Get a joystick and a nice one like a competition pro or similar then you'll appreciate that awesome machine. Commodore 64 computers have the best sound for its era and was just a joy to play back in the 80s. Good video BTW :) .
Thanks! I have plenty of joysticks and a lot of love for the C64. :)
Fantastic, you're back 🤗
Yay! So glad to be making videos again. :)
Welcome. We've been expecting you
Ha, thanks for sticking around! :)
Hoowee! Jan is back!!!
Missed you man.
Thanks Wim! :)
It's great to hear your voice again Jan, welcome back. Stay strong brother.
Thanks mate. Feels good to be back. :)
No worries it takes time to make these masterpieces
:)
Good to see you're back. Nice review, it's an interesting new approach although I like the Tapuino mini a tad more :)
Thank you sir. :)
Hi,
Could you please tell me the model or where you got your SD card connector? That's the hard part to find!
I found your Github (github.com/arananet/Tapuino-Reloaded/blob/master/bom.txt) and some of the details I am not sure of in the BOM w/r/t gerberb v0.3 of your board.
1) Is the LP298XS taking in 5V and has a 3.3V output to drive the LCD? Also, the BOM says it's a SOT23-5 package, but your board does not say so. In fact, your board is using something like the LM117 regulator.
2) The SOIC 16-pin 74HC4050D. Is that wider version or normal version of SOIC?
3) OK2 is the opto-coupler chip?
4) And, of course, you don't post the code. Is this truly an open-source project?
Would be great if you could clarify the above for C64/VIC-20 enthusiasts to make use of your open source project.
Thanks!
IIRC there are devices that can emulate the Floppy Disk Drive. So what's the point?
Welcome back Jan! Health and well-being first, awesome RUclips videos second :)
Thanks Stu. I'm fine now and the videos are coming again. :)
This is a cool device, but not sure how much I would use this over SD2IEC or my Turbo Chameleon 64 V2 to be honest. But at the same time, the whole tape loading is a big part of the nostalgia
I worry a bit that pressing does buttons cause some damage after enough time of usage, as it pushes the whole PCB+connector down every time. However the mentioned case may helps. Yeah, and welcome back, some channels even copies the "Jedi hand move" (at least how I name it, don't mean offensive, I like it) of introducing with "Hi, it's Jan Beta" :)
Yeah, that's about the only downside to this Tapuino version I could see, too. I'm not so sure about the case. Edu mentioned one in a tweet but I couldn't find it. I'll have to ask him about it.
The Jedi comparison is flattering. ;)
I thought a case for this sweetie which has mechanical support by fitting into the C64's case precisely (or would have "legs" downwards to the table) would help to stabilize things. However then, it should be a specific case for C64 (even for breadbin/new style in case of the "legs"), and probably others for other computer tapuino is compatible with. Though, I am still wondering why there are settings mode for C64/C16/etc, I had the assumption that cassette port behaves the same on all Commodore machines ...
A ribbon cable connecting the board to the datassette port would fix the issue.
I think i would prefer an SD2IEC for most things but it would be really nice to just watch those tape load screens for a bit some days
Finally. RUclips was borring the Last weeks.
Ha, thanks mate. I think there still were "some" not too boring channels around. ;)
So it seems that you use a scart to hdmi converter or something. Why? Don't you get a nice quality image using a good scart cable like the one from RetroComputerShack in a modern Tv?
The monitor I'm using here is my PC monitor that only has HDMI and VGA inputs so I have to use the adapter on this one (it's s-video mini DIN/composite to HDMI).
Great to see you back 👍
Thanks Rob! It's good to be back. :)
Brilliant piece of hardware! I guess that if you connect a real datassette to the tapuino (inverting the read/write line on the connector and using a male to male adapter) you can write/read to a real cassette
Welcome back Jan 😋 great review of the tapuino Jan 😋 Kim 😋😋😋
Thanks Kim! It's good to finally be back. :)
Jan Beta is BACK with some wonderfull stuff :) Love your videos, keep em coming :)
Thank you! :)
Welcome back, we missed your videos.
Thanks Rodrigo. Feels good to be back. :)
Awesome video as always
Do you know of any DYI-/OPenSource hardware that emulates 1541? Kind of like the Ultimate II+, but you can build it your self?
Yes, the SD2IEC hardware/software is open source. There's a variety of different versions floating around the web.
I can't find a feature list, but it would be cool to be able to do a LOAD "$" and get back a directory of games on the SD card. Not sure if there is enough logic back and forth between the tape drive and the C64 to load a specific file without loading through them all.
I think there are devices that can do that. This just pretends to be a datasette for the C64 so there's probably no way of seeing a directory from the computer side.
Thats a nice little nifty gadget :)
Ghost and Goblins is a true classic, still love to play it even i suck more at it then when i whas younger.
Yeah, G'n'G is a reeeeally hard game to play. I rarely get any further than the first "angel" enemy thingy. :/
i used to play it all round till it started again, these days with luck i get past to first two stages. Still a great game even when it is so hard. And the kids today complaining about theire 4k reso 7.1 dolby atmos games, in our time things were more difficult!!. Well i start to sound like a old fart now. /waving the walking stick.
Is there a msx version of this?
does this work on c128 to in 64 mode ?
great video, good to have you back :)
Thanks. Feels great to be making videos again. :)
it is strange that they did not go for an ESP8266 platform with integrated cursor buttons and OLED like the WeMos D1 Esp-Wroom-02
Maybe they chose the cheaper option? (Just guessing obviously...)
Why is the brand logo on the tv half covered up
I tend to cover up logos sometimes because I don't like inadvertently advertising stuff. In this case I covered it up half way and thought it would be funny to leave the word "LIPS" as a joke.
Do you know something like this for a floppy drive by chance? Does such a device exist?
Yes, there's the SD2IEC. It's open source also and there's a variety of different flavors available. It emulates a standard 1541 without much support for fastloaders (only a few chosen ones work). If you need cycle exact floppy drive emulation, I'd recommend the 1541 ultimate.
Found it shortly after posting my comment and wanted to come back to tell you guys. So sorry ;)
But thanks anyways.
let me guess... devorced? btw your are master my friend ... my german master :-) is there a Tapuino diy kit available or complete system ?
Welcome back Jan;)
Thanks. Good to be back. :)
woohoo!
Welcome back Jan! How does the Tapuino work when you need to rewind the "tape" like for example in Turrican?
Thanks! I think you would just have to select the TAP file again and it would start from the beginning. The motor sense line is connected and working just like on a real datasette so the c64 can stop/start the "tape" itself.
Jan Beta Great! Thanks Jan, I'll order up the parts and give it a try!
Hey Jan. Good to see you're back.
Could this little device help me "rip" my tape images from actual tapes?
Thanks! I can't think of a way to use the tapuino for ripping tapes. Might be there's some clever way of doing it though. I successfully ripped some tapes using WAV2TAP on a PC and a hifi cassette deck in the past.
Of course! I should give that a try. I think there was a device called audiotap. In theory, your device should be able to connect to a datasette (converter required) and record the audio. Which would be a stellar idea with so many tapes still around!
Easiest way is with a 1541 Ultimate II+ (with tape adaptor.) It's a bit expensive though but it's very simple and produces pristine recordings and backups.
As Damien has already said, you can do this with the Ultimate II, which you own already. Doh.
Yeah, the tape adapter. I know it exists, I just don't know what it does. I've always thought the tape adapter was to load .TAP images to the tape interface of the commodore. Not to load actual tapes to the Ultimate....I'll have another look at it. Thanks!
Didn't Louis Wu have one of those?
WB Jan, life is great!
Thanks Vincent. Good to be back. :)
Very interesting device. Hope all is well. :)
Thanks Mark. All good at the moment. :)
great
Thanks! :)
First, welcome back! I think this is more like Jan Beta Reloaded. A great post-hybernation video. I've never seen this Tapuino in action - a very nifty design - the little OLED screen is cute and handy.
Also. I like the new lab setup, a nice and bright improving the video quality, as well, or is that the new camera? Great work.
Thanks Mark! Feels good to be back. :) Still using the old phone for filming mostly but new lights and a new lavalier microphone (I got as a donation a while back).
Crikey did the turbotaped games take that long to load? Can't remember it being that bad.
I had the feeling the tapuino was slightly faster than an actual datasette actually. I'm going to make a comparison when I get the chance.
yay . welcome back sir!
Thanks Ollie! I'll be in touch soon (when I have managed to set up Skype properly...).
Is it just me or is the Tapuino actually slower than the original Dataset?
I had the feeling it was a tad faster (as I mentioned I made a tape from the exact Ghost'n'Goblins TAP file) than a real one but I might be mistaken. Will do a comparison as soon as I get the chance.
Actually, tape is "so lo-fi", that a tape recording using Dolby-S can be better quality than a CD if the proper recording equipment and decent quality tape is used... I was really surprised about this.
Was it Techmoan who did a video about that? You are absolutely right. High end tape can sound pretty decent although it still needs a lot of tricks. ;)
I have a question. 🙋♂️
I have this set up for a c64. How easy is it to change my tapiuno to a c16 drive?
Ps. Life goes on. You owe us nothing ❤
Using the tapuino with a C16 should technically just be a matter of making an adapter for the mini DIN connector that the C16 uses for the datasette. The devices are exactly the same, just with a smaller connector. The original Commodore datasettes came with an adapter at one point in time, even. :)
Welcome back!
Thanks mate. It's good to be back! :)
So, so good to have you back mate!!
And this device looks brilliant. I wish the SD2IEC had this kind of usability with the screen etc.
You said there was a case available?
Thanks mate! There actually is an option to connect a display to an SD2IEC if I remember correctly. Would be really interesting for disk changes and the like. Edu tweeted about a case a while back but I was unable to find it. I'll have to ask him where to get it.
Righto. I’ll google that SD2IEC screen. Thanks mate.
Good you’re back! :)
Thanks Sergiusz. It's quite a relief to be making videos again. :)