this aint nothing compared to i-80 in central iowa in 1963! we had to pull the scrapers thru the mud with a 100 foot cable! felt sorry for the laborer that had to hook us up! like to have a dollar for every load of mud i hauled that summer!
In thick mud and very rocky cuts you always pick up your can and close the apron before you turn. If you turn you'll make the dozer catch a tire, and you'll get stuck.
saudade do 619 dacaterpila 621 e das maquinas mais antigas que eram com guincho e a cabo e com embriagem e acambio o D8 36a da caterpila que tempo bom era aquele da marmita.
Lol. Funny stuff. Company I worked for had a policy. If you got stuck, no big deal. If you got stuck in the same hole with the first guy stuck,you got fired! Simple solution here guys. Don’t think that dozer is invincible. It’s heavy, and it will sink! Get a clue. Pans aren’t made to haul mud. Bring in the other pan, no way you can stick 3 machines...ha ha ha
I operated a 621 for several years. It is difficult to pick up loose dirt. The machines are designed to operate in uncut ground. The loose dirt is what is causing the scrapers to get stuck. Scrapers that have paddles can pick up loose dirty very easily.
That guy on the D8 didn't know what he was doing. Pushing while he's turning, lifting the scraper's back wheels off the ground, digging himself a hole he couldn't get out of.........
the dozer man was no good,he wouldnt a got stuck at all if he wasnt pushing and turning at the same time,he dug himself a hole,he shoulda squared up on the back of the scraper before trying to push it
They can load the Boal high even those the it wet the dozer just has to do a longer push.that all.. the dozer driver can only push .you as to lift ur boil and get of there fast
Looks to me like the dozer driver, (notice I said driver, not operator) fiddled around till he stuck it on purpose. He was comming out in forward every time but the last. He'd always stop and back it back in and spin a little deeper till he couldn't pull forward no more. Then shows that he was right about it being too wet by throwing his hands up. The boss ort to give him a shovel and make him dig around and under it the rest of the day. Doing that would get rid of a bad attitude one way or the other. He'd respect his job or leave.
when I was a kid , I bogged my grandfathers tractor to the arse, he gave me a shovel and I spent the whole day digging it out. I have never taken a shortcut across a paddock or bogged a tractor since
Without knowing how deep the mud is, it's a bit hard to say what should be done. I would have tried to load out further down and try to get down to some firm ground. Then you could start loading further back as you progressed, this would also save having fully loaded Scrapers stirring up the mud, as they came through. I don't think twin engined Scrapers would have done much better, in that situation.
Lol bit off to much running down that hill. I’m no brainiac but you can tell the way those tracks was digging up that soil way to easy. You know it’s gonna bite ya in the ass soooner than later
2nd 621 operator sucked. His bowl was full, he should had dropped the apron and lifted his cutting edge sooner. I've been in that muck before and you can't cut too long or you just build up a huge barrier.
instead of the 2nd scraper starting a new cut to the right, he should have went in the same cut as the 1st scraper to try and get a decent road or path through that shitty topsoil --- then work your way over to the right --- half a bowl at a time --- scrapers were loaded to heavy --- d8 operator should have signaled to the scraper guy to pick-up on bowl sooner and push him out w a lighter load
@jamiemasterson1 What you say is true, the 2nd scraper should have gone the way of previous or to the left of the cut, if you look at the beginning of the video operator of the D8 instructions on where they should go, but they tend during cutting to go right, and the 2nd scraper was even more, we demonstrate a lack of attention to what was possibly happen before with the 1 that almost got stuck too
He dug too deep and got a full load too quick. Could've skimmed it a bit more shallow and got all the way to the end of the cut b4 being loaded. Wouldn't have been stuck. Never dropped his apron either. Just a little inexperienced...lol
I see multiple things wrong here (through no real fault of the operators): - Using single engined scrapers, used 637's. - Not following the same line - digging waaayyyyyy too deep too early, they had half a bowl ful in one length! - Going over uneven ground to the point where a rollover danger becomes real - Dozer not leveling out/compacting the soil - Not push/pulling (need 637's).
no one knew that there was wet at that point and sink, and treacherous terrain, the entire region is nearly 1 meter of topsoil, after arriving at the firm
First off, use twin engines in mud. If not, you don't doze more mud to end of cut. Need an exit from the cut , not more tailings. Foreman can't see what's happining?
Não fale assim, infelizmente esse acontecido foi uma sequencia de movimentos que deram errados e outros que foram se sucedendo, o oporador do D8, disse para todos irem por um lado e os scrapers foram por outro, e dai foi causando os problemas, como gravei ai podemos ver os erros, mas na hora as vezes isso não é possivel, vida que segue!
ela se carrega sozinha, mas o trator serve para o carregamento ser mais rapido, vc faz carregamentos de 14 metros em 30 segundos, esse tempo de carrgamento é o mesmo para os maiores, ate o 666 se estiver com a maquina certa se carrega 40 metros em 30 a 40 segundos. Isso se chama carregamento por empuxo.Obrigado pela visita
THE KEY NUMBER HERE IS 4:20.......GET OFF THE DOPE ! ....At exactly that time this whole job went South with the birds,as these dirt jockeys should have.At 4:25 scraper jockey #2 should have lifted his can and steered to the left followed the first ones tracks.....AT 4:50 dirt jockey 2 made fatal move..left turn, can down (steers very well in mud like that) at 6:0 it was all over but the crying...........PRODUCTIVE DAY, huh?
that dozer operator is just not up to par, he put the blade all the way done and picked up the front of the dozer , then tried to back up, looks like he is a kid that was told to jump on the dozer and push some dirt
no fim do video tem o link na tela do D8N sendo rebocado pela escavadeira!! olha la, ou vai nos meu videos enviados e voce vai encontrar la, obrigado pela visita!
Cats hate water. Use a Terex the would,have crawled through. Used one for years and we were slower than cats bit we could load mud when the couldnt even drive through it
commented that it is a truth, we had no way of knowing how much depth and no one knew about it, that there would be this point of instability on the ground, scrapers in tandem no good I guess, but as already said the operator had already scraper said at the beginning of the video to go left the court and not by right, to go taking the hardest material and then cut it softer, but only after the mistakes that can make correct judgments than would have been done
But why did the dozer man push that stuff up the hill? Left undisturbed he might've had a chance with the pans with a light cut, like 4 inches and get about 3/4 full and go. But that's the way it goes sometimes. Gooey black topsoil-ish stuff.
Esses vídeos nunca serão apagados da memória história de luta e coragem parabéns Deus abençoe sempre
Que época boa que tive trabalhei muito tempo em uma construtora, sempre gostei de estrada contribui muitas obras pelo o nosso belo PAÍS
Ni CT
Ni
Когда был СССР , работал на скепере и автогрейдере, работы было много, было хорошее время. Сейчас Раша, работы нет, и платят мало😢
I love all these armchair operators.
That throbbing noise that can be imagined starting at about 6:00 is the foreman's blood pressure escalating.
That looks like a serious mud pit. A stuck 8N is a serious mud pit for sure... Good Luck Guys.
Quit turning
He didn't get squared away on him you don't push in a circle GOD does that
Me lembro bem na empresa Cowan tinha essa máquina bruta...que trabalha muito bem...muito ágil
Olá amigo eu jatraballei com vó seis Wilson moso com o pai de le traballei lá em Cuiabá em perus um abração
que bom, eu conheci um dos filhos onde esse video foi feito, empresa boa, pena que não esta mais na ativa.
this aint nothing compared to i-80 in central iowa in 1963! we had to pull the scrapers thru the mud with a 100 foot cable! felt sorry for the laborer that had to hook us up! like to have a dollar for every load of mud i hauled that summer!
Been there, done that. That is one job I don't miss.
Very Nice Very good
In thick mud and very rocky cuts you always pick up your can and close the apron before you turn. If you turn you'll make the dozer catch a tire, and you'll get stuck.
The ground is very bad for scrapers. Very nice and intersting catch!
Those guys are what’s referred to as a “heartbeat on a seat”. Lol
saudade do 619 dacaterpila 621 e das maquinas mais antigas que eram com guincho e a cabo e com embriagem e acambio o D8 36a da caterpila que tempo bom era aquele da marmita.
Obrigado pela vistia, sim vejo que o Sr. é das antigas, tempo bom que se foi, espero que tenha gostado video, e dos outros!
Lol. Funny stuff. Company I worked for had a policy. If you got stuck, no big deal. If you got stuck in the same hole with the first guy stuck,you got fired! Simple solution here guys. Don’t think that dozer is invincible. It’s heavy, and it will sink! Get a clue. Pans aren’t made to haul mud. Bring in the other pan, no way you can stick 3 machines...ha ha ha
I operated a 621 for several years. It is difficult to pick up loose dirt. The machines are designed to operate in uncut ground. The loose dirt is what is causing the scrapers to get stuck. Scrapers that have paddles can pick up loose dirty very easily.
Tyⁿ.. 0
Instead of digging himself in hole in reverse , He had enough room to lock right track and get out of that mess.
Exactly..
Hello! He's a mexican. 99% can't figure out how to operate machinery like that correctly.
Eu gostei muito do trator de esteira mesmo
Maquinário fera a geografia dO terreno . calma tudo vai dar certo ok
They are like a bunch of kids playing!
I reckon half these vids are staged,, fake
That guy on the D8 didn't know what he was doing. Pushing while he's turning, lifting the scraper's back wheels off the ground, digging himself a hole he couldn't get out of.........
the dozer man was no good,he wouldnt a got stuck at all if he wasnt pushing and turning at the same time,he dug himself a hole,he shoulda squared up on the back of the scraper before trying to push it
Бульдозерист и кэт красавчики
These are skilled operators all they need is another dozer on site to push the stuck one backwards and out and they would continue on their way.
I love it when they start pointing.. and yelling..
tj0
Sonho de criança aos 12 anos tive minha chance Caterpillar 621 B coisa de louco
That has to be his first day on a dozer oh my God !
Hope their not on by the hour
.gees
They can load the Boal high even those the it wet the dozer just has to do a longer push.that all.. the dozer driver can only push .you as to lift ur boil and get of there fast
Well lad's let's head on over to Pub....
AI SIM É MAQUINA MUITO BOM
Its a bit rough digging . But didn't the old scraper sound well .She roared out like a gooden .Bring back the straight through exhausts .
Scrappers are fair weather macines they do not do mud. Silly rockys......
Sou operador destas máquina não tou mas na ativa mas sinto paixao
Looks to me like the dozer driver, (notice I said driver, not operator) fiddled around till he stuck it on purpose. He was comming out in forward every time but the last. He'd always stop and back it back in and spin a little deeper till he couldn't pull forward no more. Then shows that he was right about it being too wet by throwing his hands up. The boss ort to give him a shovel and make him dig around and under it the rest of the day. Doing that would get rid of a bad attitude one way or the other. He'd respect his job or leave.
when I was a kid , I bogged my grandfathers tractor to the arse, he gave me a shovel and I spent the whole day digging it out. I have never taken a shortcut across a paddock or bogged a tractor since
Steve D Yes sir, it's amazing at how much knowledge and skill ye can soak up by spending an enjoyable day on the end of a good D-handle
Steve D
Nonickname I love shovelling almost as much as running equipment, I just like moving dirt
Bet them tires got big chunks cut out of them from dozer blade.....
Without knowing how deep the mud is, it's a bit hard to say what should be done. I would have tried to load out further down and try to get down to some firm ground. Then you could start loading further back as you progressed, this would also save having fully loaded Scrapers stirring up the mud, as they came through. I don't think twin engined Scrapers would have done much better, in that situation.
To much weight in the back
Lol bit off to much running down that hill. I’m no brainiac but you can tell the way those tracks was digging up that soil way to easy. You know it’s gonna bite ya in the ass soooner than later
A Lopes moço tá contratando tratorista, gostei dos máquinario
2nd 621 operator sucked. His bowl was full, he should had dropped the apron and lifted his cutting edge sooner. I've been in that muck before and you can't cut too long or you just build up a huge barrier.
instead of the 2nd scraper starting a new cut to the right, he should have went in the same cut as the 1st scraper to try and get a decent road or path through that shitty topsoil --- then work your way over to the right --- half a bowl at a time --- scrapers were loaded to heavy --- d8 operator should have signaled to the scraper guy to pick-up on bowl sooner and push him out w a lighter load
The error is at 4:53. The dozer operator stops and reverses at the most critical moment for him to continue pushing.
that dozer should never stop moving if you're tending to scrapers
Eu sempre gostei de máquinas antigas
Wonderful, these chaotic operators
@jamiemasterson1
What you say is true, the 2nd scraper should have gone the way of previous or to the left of the cut, if you look at the beginning of the video operator of the D8 instructions on where they should go, but they tend during cutting to go right, and the 2nd scraper was even more, we demonstrate a lack of attention to what was possibly happen before with the 1 that almost got stuck too
Thats why you strip that junk sod off with the dozer first and pile it up to the side then have them scrape it later
621 é uma máquina maravilhosa, top
Porque fais vidio tremendo eu tor assistido oki
Não entendi. Tremendo? Pode explicar melhor? Obrigado pela visita
why are they trying to lead mud? yeh, pick up the back of the scraper, that`ll made it work better. I`d be real proud of that video
Nossa o terreno ta encharcado forca demais o equipamento !!!!
But the operators lack in brains.
Remedy: Fire the forman. What a clusterfuck
Muito louco meu chapa doideira pura
Top parceiro
لا يمكن أن يعمل الترنبول او بلدوزر في مثل هاذي الأرض يحتاح إلى أرض قوة جدا كي تتحمل هاذي المعدات الثقيلة
Isso Acontece ficar tranquilo ok.
That's what I thought....a bit too mucky to be doing that on that day there.
He dug too deep and got a full load too quick. Could've skimmed it a bit more shallow and got all the way to the end of the cut b4 being loaded. Wouldn't have been stuck. Never dropped his apron either. Just a little inexperienced...lol
It takes some hard won skill to mess that up this badly
Hai perfettamente ragione e' sempre una Caterpillar amico.
I see multiple things wrong here (through no real fault of the operators):
- Using single engined scrapers, used 637's.
- Not following the same line
- digging waaayyyyyy too deep too early, they had half a bowl ful in one length!
- Going over uneven ground to the point where a rollover danger becomes real
- Dozer not leveling out/compacting the soil
- Not push/pulling (need 637's).
NickHey Let me guess..... 🤔 You operated a 637.
You forgot to mention the operators. Had those machines had REAL operators, this would never have happened.
Who taught him to drive a Cat???
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Both got fired and had their greencards revoked!
Hggoi
I'm not an operator or anything like that but how come the guy in the D8 couldn't tell that he was just digging a hole for himself?
Because he doesn't have much in the brain pan.
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moral of the story -- don't try to find the bottom of a triassic basin
I want to know where this was - is it in the UK? The landscape looks like England.
Brasil que pena
Brasil
And let that bloke in the dozer work it out.. incredible....
no one knew that there was wet at that point and sink, and treacherous terrain, the entire region is nearly 1 meter of topsoil, after arriving at the firm
Aí.sim. saudade
As I understand it dug so I can better push the scraper, but was also jamming
Glad that was not my job--nor my equipment, nor those operators working for me.
First off, use twin engines in mud. If not, you don't doze more mud to end of cut. Need an exit from the cut , not more tailings. Foreman can't see what's happining?
tudo tem solução . Pensar
uma maquina que show de bola
Eita enxada mau amolada 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Não fale assim, infelizmente esse acontecido foi uma sequencia de movimentos que deram errados e outros que foram se sucedendo, o oporador do D8, disse para todos irem por um lado e os scrapers foram por outro, e dai foi causando os problemas, como gravei ai podemos ver os erros, mas na hora as vezes isso não é possivel, vida que segue!
FAZE CRÍTICA DE LONGE É FÁCIL DIFÍCIL É SER O OPERADOR DO D8
If the idiots would not overload scrapers they would still be rolling.
crap...doesnt pay to not load them fully.
tem muita força
The dozer guy gets paid based on how fast he can get stuck
Let's see how you do, numb nuts.
GoD
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Pause half way through, why are they still trying to scrape when it's so hard just going?
Just wondering if that dozer operator can be any more inefficient and hopeless?
Probably not. I mean they're not the brightest bulbs in the box to begin with, and these 3 seem less so than most
You’re all fired, call the union hall and get some trained guys.
kkkkkkkk
6:44 what he did is he dug the whole underneath him even more by lifting the top.
É muito irado estas máquinas D+++++
Qual a vantagem duma maquina dessa ? Que precisa de.outra pra empurrá.
ela se carrega sozinha, mas o trator serve para o carregamento ser mais rapido, vc faz carregamentos de 14 metros em 30 segundos, esse tempo de carrgamento é o mesmo para os maiores, ate o 666 se estiver com a maquina certa se carrega 40 metros em 30 a 40 segundos. Isso se chama carregamento por empuxo.Obrigado pela visita
THE KEY NUMBER HERE IS 4:20.......GET OFF THE DOPE ! ....At exactly that time this whole job went South with the birds,as these dirt jockeys should have.At 4:25 scraper jockey #2 should have lifted his can and steered to the left followed the first ones tracks.....AT 4:50 dirt jockey 2 made fatal move..left turn, can down (steers very well in mud like that) at 6:0 it was all over but the crying...........PRODUCTIVE DAY, huh?
great video! start digging LOL
auch hier bin ich voll begeistert.....
that dozer operator is just not up to par, he put the blade all the way done and picked up the front of the dozer , then tried to back up, looks like he is a kid that was told to jump on the dozer and push some dirt
Man that's some horrid sticky shitty mud. Trying to fill the bowl too much. Better using excavators and dump trucks in shit like that.
THIS show is: "TRACKS ONLY" !!!
Why a backup alarm on a dozer?
Será que já consegui desativar a D8
no fim do video tem o link na tela do D8N sendo rebocado pela escavadeira!! olha la, ou vai nos meu videos enviados e voce vai encontrar la, obrigado pela visita!
They all need to go back to play school.
I built logging roads for 20+ years in Washington St. We NEVER used a scraper cuz they HELPLESS IN MUD !!!
muskrat691 what part of Wa ? I work on the north side of St Helen's . Bob
Yeah this is a combo of way too wet and heavy material and a dozer operator who’s not worth a darn.
Cats hate water. Use a Terex the would,have crawled through. Used one for years and we were slower than cats bit we could load mud when the couldnt even drive through it
the scraper driver would have been better off with a smaller load and he would not
get stuck
Usually; the Eight man cuts mud off the top; unless you're stripping topsoil.
commented that it is a truth, we had no way of knowing how much depth and no one knew about it, that there would be this point of instability on the ground, scrapers in tandem no good I guess, but as already said the operator had already scraper said at the beginning of the video to go left the court and not by right, to go taking the hardest material and then cut it softer, but only after the mistakes that can make correct judgments than would have been done
But why did the dozer man push that stuff up the hill? Left undisturbed he might've had a chance with the pans with a light cut, like 4 inches and get about 3/4 full and go. But that's the way it goes sometimes. Gooey black topsoil-ish stuff.
Going to wait for Sommer now......
Volvo trucks and excavators would work circles around this mess
why would the dozer operator dig himself deeper?
Terrible dozer operator