Might be interesting if you develop a quiz people can take to help identify where they fall on the spectrum of each of these types. Thank you for all you do, by the way! Love your books and videos!
@@TonyEbukaSG Are you bored? Is “calling people out” on RUclips for stupid things like this where you get your daily thrill? I just said it might be interesting.
I think I’m siren and coquette. Siren wise, I’m a sensual dancer, I like dressing pretty, and makeup a lot. Coquette-wise, I know I jump around a lot with how I act and feel about people.
1. Siren =like Cliopetra, you can feel their sexual energy like she will destroy you if you get involved with her 2. Rake = attracted to women, but never satisfied with one, research about nature of women he understand them very well. 3. Dandy = Rudolph valentino 4. Natural = child like energy 5. Coquette = they just know how to play to get. 6. Star = kind of distance, we imagine about them 7. Charismatic = sexual seducer, we can feel their energy , so intense confidence.
@@johnman9386 what if that person doesn't speak English as a first language and yet made the effort to help others by summarizing what he remembered? That's an A+ for effort, meanwhile you failed at being a nice person.
I relate most to the coquette. Life has made me quite the loner from a young age. I am introverted and thoughtful, i dont like being around people all the time. I feel insecure in social situations because J always feel I need to give but when I give it comes out unnatural and inauthentic. Embracing the side of me that is more naturally calm, reserved and meditative and knowing that I can accentuate these traits of mine to be seductive is nice to know. Thanks.
I think I’m a mix of the Natural, Charismatic and the Star. I tend to give off very innocent and naive energy. A lot of people that end up connecting with me are people that tend to want to take care of me or to be a knight in shining armor. I also think I’m a charismatic because I’ve had numerous people tell me that they are always inspired by me and the passion that I have for life and my goals. And people tell me I’d be a good motivational speaker. The last one, The Star, is because people tell me that it never seems like I’m fully present. That I have a very blank face, and that they can never tell what I’m thinking. Also, people tell me that I seem very confident.
It's difficult to judge your own type. Because it's so much based on the sense that other people have about you. I'm guessing the natural for me, because people always estimate me younger than I am and it's a little bit based on looks but also the energy I project, I think. Maybe a bit of charmer/charismatic in me, though that's one I need to consciously develop more.
Its best not to over think it if any don't jump right out at you. I would go with the first one that comes to mind though, personally I have no idea why I can attract attention until he mentioned the Natural, honestly it was very insightfull and makes sense to me based on past experiances and comments others have said to me. I'm in my 40s and people that don't know me underestimate my age, even at my age I can be naive about some things, I get a long better with people younger then me or those older people that don't have the constant super serious i'm an adult vibe. Just be yourself, take note of any traits you see in yourself but don't chase after a type if it doesnt seem natural for you, if you have you force it then maybe its not who you are.
The natural type is easier to identify actually. I saw several people who really embodies this and they are quite popular. People forgive them easily for saying something inappropriate sometimes because they thought these people just being themselves and honest, not that they have malicious intentions/ want to make people feel bad. Maybe you have read the book? It will help you to identify. Usually the natural type is also very curious (because they are childlike)
1. The siren 2. The rake 3. The dandy 4. The natural 5. The coquette 6. The star 7. The charismatic This requires introspection. I really relate to a couple of these-- in nonsexual ways though/ it's just my personality. Mostly the siren-- I sort of easily and regularly find myself within a magnetic attraction with someone who I find mutual interest, acceptance and apprecition-- unfortunately our cultural training is to think of it as sexual, but for me it's just basic pure love for other humans. So I have to maneuver, trying to not offend because I don't feel romantic + be comfortable myself. And the natural-- I have a strong Peter Pan archetype. My default mode is happygolucky even in circumstances that others would call difficult and I kind of live in my own reality because of it. Both of these traits make up my Incarnation Cross is in my Human Design chart-- Right Angle Cross of the Vessel of Love 2. Anyone can cast a free HD chart and look up your Incarnation Cross-- would be interesting to see the correlations with these 7 archetypes
That's interesting! I love how you connected this with HD. As far as I know there are morecthan 700 incarnation crosses. I doubt that all of them matches a seduction type. I have the Cross of Incarnation. I would rather look at the Gates, for example the Gate of Desire, and the Gate of Authenticity, or Gate of Alertness.or the profiles, for example, 4th profile like to change their looks to attract others, while people with 1st profile like to try out new abd different things.
if you have trouble identifying these within yourself, try doing it for people you know. If you can easily recognize these qualities in other people it will become easier to do so in yourself
I love rakes - it doesn’t matter at all that they can’t be lifelong mates… they’re such lovely men, and have such affection for women. I like men who genuinely like all women.
I think I'm a little bit of them all, yet the coquette is where I'm most comfortable. Not that I try to blow hot and cold, yet it's how my attachment style is perceived by another person. Just because I don't need to be with someone all the time, or share my feelings like most people doesn't mean I don't care. I find my own company comfortable, and I like making the rules to my life on my own terms.
I relate to that so so much. I don't try to do that but I've a fearful attachment style and I'm an ambivert who leans towards being a bit introverted. If someone takes me for granted, then I kind of turn cold (unless they're really close to me, then I communicate). Not to punish them but because I'm trying distance myself in case I get hurt. I am detached and self sufficient. I was wondering if I can be called coquette at all but Ig you can be a coquette unintentionally.
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nah I would say this is very important, I believe I'm a good-looking guy. Many girls were interested in me and even made first approach with me, but the thing is I don't know any of the suduction or how to talk. They either get bored of me and ghost me, dry, or lose interest
@@imsomething4432 I do agree. What I was trying to point out was that just these psychological aspects won't help you to win a man you desire. For that good looks is absolutely necessary as far as a female is concerned.
A friend of mine whom I trust, very smart guy that reads all your books says I’m an ideal lover. At first looking at it from being Casanova like I never agreed until I read about JFK.
I like to think of myself as the Natural - although I am still working on reconnecting with my childhood while finding a balance with my adult shadow/dark side. I have also been a victim of the Coquette...Thank you for the informative video and books 👌🔥
1. the Rake (stud; bad guy) 2. the Dandy (androgynous) 3. the Natural (childlike energy) 4. the Coquette (hot & cold; dismissive avoidant) 5. the Star (imagined celebrity) 6. the Charismatic (confidence) 7. the Charmer (makes women feel comfortable) 8. the Ideal Lover (uses the woman's desires as his image) I'm the Dandy and the Coquette. Crazy. I might also be a Charmer.
This is quite interesting, however, the Cleopatra you describe is Cleopatra of Macedonia (long face, thin nose). The statue that is attributed to her is not her. Plutarch describes Cleopatra VII as quite beautiful and that everyone was énamouréd with her exoticness. He does not mention her personality except that she was highly intelligent and had a lilting and pleasant voice. Plutarch said that at 21 she was girlish when she met Julius Caesar but into her 30s and 40s, that “she was at the height of her beauty and intellectual power”. All statues of Cleopatra VII were destroyed except for one which portrays her as Isis. (She believed herself to be the reincarnation of ISIS) and in this statue she had a heart shaped face and cat shaped eyes. As a historian, I thought you might want to know… 😊
I thought it seemed odd that Marc Anthony would be so enamored with someone like her if she wasn't beautiful. Especially given how much he went through to be with her.
I think i have many traits but they are of different seducers Firstly The Siren = i love dressing and looking attractive all the time . Many boys had got attracted to me and nowadays i am getting a lot of attention from boys.😂 Then,The Natural= i irritate my best friend all the time with my childish behaviour. I always do unpredictable things that make her embarrassed 😂i always do weird things.i am cute . Then,The Coquette= i am a hard to get person. Many boys had tried to make me fall for them but i never cared i ignored everyone . Sometimes i make too sweet and sometimes i become too rude .i am hard to understand.😅 And the last is,The Charismatic= I'm an energetic type of person.when i enter in the room i grab everyone's attention without any effort . I fill the room with energy and light up everything 🎉 Now i understood That why everyone gives me more attention . Everyone loves me a lot . I can make anyone fall for me just at a single glance . Wow , I'm such a perfect seducer.🎉🎉🎉 party party yeah
I have mostly three traits, 1. Dandy for always trying to look the best in situation, 2. Couquette because i can be a warming person 1 day and the next day i behave like i never knew the person, 3. A little bit of natural, because i don't have much experience in social situations i always give a childish and naive vibe
Combo of charismatic, dandy and star. However, I tend to be Coquette with people I truly disdain . Which is not good according to Rob Greene (Narcissistic traits it would seem uh oh 😅) . Great video! 😊
Thank you for this video Robert. It's a bit difficult to know my type. All I know is that I tend to attract the same type of women and they are bold, confident, assertive, extroverted. These are women who studied law, love sports, cars. They have a masculine temperament according to me. One thing is for sure, I don't attract shy prudish women like the Rakes. But I don't know why only these types get attracted to me. Where would I fall into ? Maybe a coquette. I honestly don't know.
What personality traits do you have? Maybe you're a bit of an effeminate man (no offence) that attracts masculine women. My bad if you're not that type of guy at all
I would say as a male the one I identify with the most is the Rake. The main problem with this archetype is that it leads to unfulfillment. And the coquette is the most attractive female for me, but also the most painful. She will act interested, but the next day won't be anymore and will even act very bad. But then all of the sudden she'll come back and show interest again, troubling you and making you forgive her. Her craziness is weirdly attractive in a way.
Art Of Seduction Is Definitely One Of My Best Reads By Robert Greene, However How Can We Define One Who Possesses All These Seductive Traits With Awareness. .
Hello Robert, huge fan of your books and I recently read the Art of seduction, and I noticed one thing all the seductive people mentioned are dead so I had one question, you probably get asked this question a lot, who are the most prominent seductive people of our time in your opinion?
I think it has become much more about looks with time because people see more beautiful people because TV celebrities and then internet. Therefore the strategist gets as good looking as possible without losing the thread.
these concepts are very interesting. only thing that is sad when you master these is sometimes you actually feel lonely inside because people are scared to approach you.
50% dandy 50% natural I like being intense, present, curious, playful, teasing and even flamboyant. I am not a rake nor a star. I think dandy and star are quite the opposite, to be honest. Dandy show their energy hard, more the more seductive, but the star doesn't, show fantasy projection is possible.
I got coquette, dandy, and star. I could relate a lot with corvette and star since I tend to avoid those I like while making sure I'm seen, stands out, and sweet to them when their around but also cold and nonchalant at times. I wonder tho, how's a dandy like? I don't know why I keep getting dandy because I can only partly relate with it. I love coming off intellectual and all but most of my image is still wrapped up in looking and being feminine. I'm pretty adventurous tho and wants to come across as challenging. I just have this more stylish elegant appearance and then would slowly reveal this more spontaneous side (on one-to-one). Does that sound like a star-dandy-coquette to you? How do you imagine this type to be and do you even think it's possible? I mean, as you said, dandies and stars are the complete opposite.
Oh and I meant ignore. I avoid those I used to like and no longer do lol. As for the projection thing, yeah. I'm just a walking mannequin sometimes. I can be very reactive at home but that rarely or never shows in public. Anyhow, I really relate to the whole teasing thing! Aren't Coquettes like that as well!? I believe my third type can either be dandy or natural, I'm just not quite sure yet! Can you elaborate how they manifest differently? Like how do you distinguish them? Thanks.
Definitely a combo of the natural and the charismatic. Not neccessarily in sexual relationships, but just social. I have an odd ability to seduce those i work for with my confidence and personality. Almost to my own detriment because it puts me in situations I really am not prepared for and allows me to get jobs I really shouldn't. I would like to use it as a skill to better my career but all the jobs I have done, I have either hated but was good at them, or liked at least a bit but could never get good enough so I have constantly found new jobs and never had the chance to use the ability to I guess prgress in my career. I am not even 23 and have had 8 jobs across 7 industries, and about to be number 9. I am hoping this new one is a better fit as I lean more and more towards what I want to do.
@@lucid2184 my Myers Briggs changes with the environment I am in which I find quite interesting. Other than that, I do the Hexaco personality test once every 6 months or so to track my fall comings
@@reddrift3022 astrology, numerology and Human Design are not quizzes -- not about logic and do not change. They are about your mechanics when you were born that you can refer to in order to maneuver and live your highest potential. Life changing studies.
@@lucid2184 It's far more in-depth and it's what a lot of universities use for research if they need to map personalities for a study. And if you have ever heard of someone mention success people being high in conscientiousness, they are referring to this test.
Robert please have a talk or an interview with Teal Swan. She is a true siren and a charismatic and hyperintelligent. You will love her. I think you will have an amazing conversation together!!
Johanna I second that. I've been listening to her for over 10 yr even before she changed her name. She is truly gifted and amazing. Her videos and insight got me through some really rough times. She has helped me heal on so many levels and my relationships with myself and others are better because of her wisdom ❤. We're talking paradigm shifts here! That is why I love Robert Green too. He is so amazing and intelligent- I love listening and learning from people like this.
❤ Seduction is the first book by Robert Green that i read & turned me on 💯 % to ALL of ROBERT GREEN BOOKS Great analysts / informative & helpful to navigate life fun read & beneficial = success🎉
Why I think whatever Robert is saying may be true and not a hypothesis Or why I think whatever Robert is saying hypothetical How do I know whatever he is saying is right and not a fiction ?
I read this book, and he claimed in that too that we all had at least one seducer in us. First I thought maybe the Siren (the sex siren sub-type), as I am feminine and have natural curves in my body shape that I didn't notice until it got attention, similarly to the anecdote about Monroe's tight fitting sweater. I also have the childlike girl like quality because people seem to want to help me a lot, to take care of me (the siren was described to have a childlike, innocent nature to them). Then I thought about the Dandy, not because i play with my appearance but because I have stereo typically masculine traits and interests (i work in stem for example) And I thought about the cold coquette too, since I am naturally shy and elusive of most people. If I was asked about another person i know well I could probably say what kind of seducer they are in a heartbeat. In my normal daily life I probably come across The Natural, The Charmer and The Charismatic the most. Sometimes also the Siren. The Ideal Lover and The Star for sure is the most rare seducers, ive never come across anyone who fits that type. The book made me much more aware of how someone is seducing me and how the methods he describes in the books are actually things many people do naturally and sub consciously (ie entering their spirit, people do this all the time through personality mirroring). Its interesting suddenly becoming aware of why someone is attracting me and realising im being seduced.
I'm none of these. I'm 50 and haven't had a single relationship and now doomscroll for enjoyment since I don't have the courage to actively hurt people
Im a combination of dandy, natural and star. I can be a coquette when Im trying to get away from somethingnI cant say no too. I really dislike other Naturals esp and Rakes in general are boring.
I am fascinating reading everyone’s idea of who they are. I would love to see if the people who know all of you would agree!! I’m so freakin curious!!!
So easy to understand women with logic made confident decision about start her own family and she is picking the totally opposite of herself ( roller coasters lovers ) because she is better loved with the labyrinth of her knowledge mindset. Same thing with a man - logic man often attracts better with Merlin Monroe . How to change mindset for safety ride with roller coaster? One solution is to tight him to her BELT like her keychain
i might be the charimatic cause whenever i talk everyone listen to me and want to stay around me trying to befriend me and making me laugh so i think they are cool and stuff like when i go in a new place people want to befriend me in any way trying to conserve with me
I would say I’m a star 🌟 for sureee, judging off how people describe me, not that this is at all my first instinct to think of myself as one. I’m have a somewhat unconventional look, I often feel like I’m on a stage I’m public, I’m very intentional with my movements and keep my face blank and a dreamy expression (only because I am shy and nervous) and often have people go out of their way to compliment me or ask me out. I don’t reveal a lot about myself, except with close friends, however people often say they see themselves in me. People even my close friends describe me and mystical, also cat like with my calculated movements but contradicting this I am also seen as very free and expressive. 🤷♀️
@MyMotif i think a star is more like a mystery. Someone who is more distant, reserved and mysterious. Hard to discover his true self and leaves room for alot of imagination. Strong eye contact also yes.
@MyMotif that's a good sign. Always wise to not reveal everything about yourself at the beginning anyway. Leaving room for imagination is very important. I like to give very vague answers to questions from the start. You can feel the heightened senses from her immediately and it can transition boring conversations into excitement very fast but only if she's atleast somewhat interested in you from the start.
@MyMotif i'm an INTP and I think we match mostly with the charmer, i don't think it's mentioned in this video but they have great understanding of others and are very flexible overall
What if 'The One' have all of these quality and can effect not only human but also anything that present in nature like Sky, Air, Fire, Water and earth but don't want to use it for personal wellbeing because the purpose is the "Awakening of the soul" of humankind... Then whome to effect?
I think if I were to approximate which type i am closer to, none in my opinion, when thinking of how people perceived me: they all saw me as a naive person because i have more of a childish face I guess because of the big eyes? It bothers me that this is the kind of vibes I give off. It's almost as being seen to be a stupid idiot, cuz that what naive means. I am shocked to hear it could ever be a good thing to be perceived like this.
I’m a natural I guess…I feel like I’m more like a victim in search for a saviour…like a child. And for some reason, children are drawn to me - maybe because they sense this childlike energy in me and feel safe.
Na bro, that’s not what that is. You watch to much porn that’s why you feel like a victim and need a savior. Quit beating your meat and you’ll see your personality changes. The natural, and being child like in nature doesn’t mean you want someone to save you, it means you’re more playful with people and play along with them or talk to them in an innocent manner. Don’t give me that “I don’t watch porn” lie and save yourself. If you do that, watch your personality drastically change.
Might be interesting if you develop a quiz people can take to help identify where they fall on the spectrum of each of these types. Thank you for all you do, by the way! Love your books and videos!
I thought the exact same thing
Yes! It's extremely difficult to asses yourself from the inside. There needs to be an external assessment.
So you need a quiz to identify how what you’ve inside, even with all he explained, nothing touched you like it’s maybe close to your character.
@@TonyEbukaSG Are you bored? Is “calling people out” on RUclips for stupid things like this where you get your daily thrill? I just said it might be interesting.
@@derek_jesio i agree with ya bud
I definitely have “the Natural “ i was always semi aware of this quality . Makes people trust me and open up to me so easily 😂
Same here
I think I’m siren and coquette. Siren wise, I’m a sensual dancer, I like dressing pretty, and makeup a lot. Coquette-wise, I know I jump around a lot with how I act and feel about people.
Your appearance is different than your archetype. You are coquette from the core but maybe you look like a siren.
1. Siren =like Cliopetra, you can feel their sexual energy like she will destroy you if you get involved with her
2. Rake = attracted to women, but never satisfied with one, research about nature of women he understand them very well.
3. Dandy = Rudolph valentino
4. Natural = child like energy
5. Coquette = they just know how to play to get.
6. Star = kind of distance, we imagine about them
7. Charismatic = sexual seducer, we can feel their energy , so intense confidence.
This is written poorly.
Shit got so many errors. Where tf is the charmer?
@@johnman9386 stop complaining, start making. please! make another that I get help from that
@@johnman9386 what if that person doesn't speak English as a first language and yet made the effort to help others by summarizing what he remembered? That's an A+ for effort, meanwhile you failed at being a nice person.
@@johnman9386🫵🤡
I relate most to the coquette. Life has made me quite the loner from a young age. I am introverted and thoughtful, i dont like being around people all the time. I feel insecure in social situations because J always feel I need to give but when I give it comes out unnatural and inauthentic. Embracing the side of me that is more naturally calm, reserved and meditative and knowing that I can accentuate these traits of mine to be seductive is nice to know. Thanks.
I think I’m a mix of the Natural, Charismatic and the Star.
I tend to give off very innocent and naive energy. A lot of people that end up connecting with me are people that tend to want to take care of me or to be a knight in shining armor. I also think I’m a charismatic because I’ve had numerous people tell me that they are always inspired by me and the passion that I have for life and my goals. And people tell me I’d be a good motivational speaker. The last one, The Star, is because people tell me that it never seems like I’m fully present. That I have a very blank face, and that they can never tell what I’m thinking. Also, people tell me that I seem very confident.
OMG twins!
It's difficult to judge your own type. Because it's so much based on the sense that other people have about you. I'm guessing the natural for me, because people always estimate me younger than I am and it's a little bit based on looks but also the energy I project, I think. Maybe a bit of charmer/charismatic in me, though that's one I need to consciously develop more.
Please don't expect overnight growth
Its best not to over think it if any don't jump right out at you. I would go with the first one that comes to mind though, personally I have no idea why I can attract attention until he mentioned the Natural, honestly it was very insightfull and makes sense to me based on past experiances and comments others have said to me. I'm in my 40s and people that don't know me underestimate my age, even at my age I can be naive about some things, I get a long better with people younger then me or those older people that don't have the constant super serious i'm an adult vibe. Just be yourself, take note of any traits you see in yourself but don't chase after a type if it doesnt seem natural for you, if you have you force it then maybe its not who you are.
The natural type is easier to identify actually. I saw several people who really embodies this and they are quite popular. People forgive them easily for saying something inappropriate sometimes because they thought these people just being themselves and honest, not that they have malicious intentions/ want to make people feel bad. Maybe you have read the book? It will help you to identify. Usually the natural type is also very curious (because they are childlike)
Look at your past, what do you have an inclination to? Humans usually have patterns.
@@chitralima2208i love this
1. The siren
2. The rake
3. The dandy
4. The natural
5. The coquette
6. The star
7. The charismatic
This requires introspection.
I really relate to a couple of these-- in nonsexual ways though/ it's just my personality.
Mostly the siren-- I sort of easily and regularly find myself within a magnetic attraction with someone who I find mutual interest, acceptance and apprecition-- unfortunately our cultural training is to think of it as sexual, but for me it's just basic pure love for other humans. So I have to maneuver, trying to not offend because I don't feel romantic + be comfortable myself.
And the natural-- I have a strong Peter Pan archetype. My default mode is happygolucky even in circumstances that others would call difficult and I kind of live in my own reality because of it.
Both of these traits make up my Incarnation Cross is in my Human Design chart-- Right Angle Cross of the Vessel of Love 2.
Anyone can cast a free HD chart and look up your Incarnation Cross-- would be interesting to see the correlations with these 7 archetypes
Cool
That's interesting! I love how you connected this with HD. As far as I know there are morecthan 700 incarnation crosses. I doubt that all of them matches a seduction type. I have the Cross of Incarnation. I would rather look at the Gates, for example the Gate of Desire, and the Gate of Authenticity, or Gate of Alertness.or the profiles, for example, 4th profile like to change their looks to attract others, while people with 1st profile like to try out new abd different things.
if you have trouble identifying these within yourself, try doing it for people you know. If you can easily recognize these qualities in other people it will become easier to do so in yourself
Charismatic it is for me. I talk through my energy more than my words.
I love rakes - it doesn’t matter at all that they can’t be lifelong mates… they’re such lovely men, and have such affection for women. I like men who genuinely like all women.
One of the greatest seducers, a Dandy, was Prince!!! 💜🙌🏾💜
I started reading your books last year and I will not stop. They have been so great and eye opening. Its a great book.
I have The Rake, The Natural, and The Charismatic in me. From my personal experiences with women, this is clear.
Combo of siren, charismatic and natural!
I think I'm a little bit of them all, yet the coquette is where I'm most comfortable. Not that I try to blow hot and cold, yet it's how my attachment style is perceived by another person. Just because I don't need to be with someone all the time, or share my feelings like most people doesn't mean I don't care. I find my own company comfortable, and I like making the rules to my life on my own terms.
I relate to that so so much. I don't try to do that but I've a fearful attachment style and I'm an ambivert who leans towards being a bit introverted. If someone takes me for granted, then I kind of turn cold (unless they're really close to me, then I communicate). Not to punish them but because I'm trying distance myself in case I get hurt. I am detached and self sufficient. I was wondering if I can be called coquette at all but Ig you can be a coquette unintentionally.
The wisest thing that should be on everyone’s mind currently should be to invest in different streams of income that doesn’t depend on the govt. Especially with the current economic crisis around the world. This is still a good time to invest in Gold , silver and digital currencies (BTC,ETH..).
One of the best on our nature. Thank you Robert Greene
طلعت ناتشورال مكس مع الانواع الثانيه،نايس💅🏻 wonderful video as always,
Seduction is very easy for those with good looks. I don't think anything else is that powerful.
nah I would say this is very important, I believe I'm a good-looking guy. Many girls were interested in me and even made first approach with me, but the thing is I don't know any of the suduction or how to talk. They either get bored of me and ghost me, dry, or lose interest
@@imsomething4432 I do agree. What I was trying to point out was that just these psychological aspects won't help you to win a man you desire. For that good looks is absolutely necessary as far as a female is concerned.
A friend of mine whom I trust, very smart guy that reads all your books says I’m an ideal lover.
At first looking at it from being Casanova like I never agreed until I read about JFK.
I like to think of myself as the Natural - although I am still working on reconnecting with my childhood while finding a balance with my adult shadow/dark side. I have also been a victim of the Coquette...Thank you for the informative video and books 👌🔥
1. the Rake (stud; bad guy)
2. the Dandy (androgynous)
3. the Natural (childlike energy)
4. the Coquette (hot & cold; dismissive avoidant)
5. the Star (imagined celebrity)
6. the Charismatic (confidence)
7. the Charmer (makes women feel comfortable)
8. the Ideal Lover (uses the woman's desires as his image)
I'm the Dandy and the Coquette. Crazy.
I might also be a Charmer.
So you R hot AF 😉❤❤
Clicked on this knowing I'm not any of them 😂
based, same
Lmaooo ohh Betty 😂😂😊
Same
This is quite interesting, however, the Cleopatra you describe is Cleopatra of Macedonia (long face, thin nose). The statue that is attributed to her is not her. Plutarch describes Cleopatra VII as quite beautiful and that everyone was énamouréd with her exoticness. He does not mention her personality except that she was highly intelligent and had a lilting and pleasant voice. Plutarch said that at 21 she was girlish when she met Julius Caesar but into her 30s and 40s, that “she was at the height of her beauty and intellectual power”. All statues of Cleopatra VII were destroyed except for one which portrays her as Isis. (She believed herself to be the reincarnation of ISIS) and in this statue she had a heart shaped face and cat shaped eyes. As a historian, I thought you might want to know… 😊
Pleasant read ty
Amazing
I thought it seemed odd that Marc Anthony would be so enamored with someone like her if she wasn't beautiful. Especially given how much he went through to be with her.
I think i have many traits but they are of different seducers
Firstly The Siren = i love dressing and looking attractive all the time . Many boys had got attracted to me and nowadays i am getting a lot of attention from boys.😂
Then,The Natural= i irritate my best friend all the time with my childish behaviour. I always do unpredictable things that make her embarrassed 😂i always do weird things.i am cute .
Then,The Coquette= i am a hard to get person. Many boys had tried to make me fall for them but i never cared i ignored everyone . Sometimes i make too sweet and sometimes i become too rude .i am hard to understand.😅
And the last is,The Charismatic= I'm an energetic type of person.when i enter in the room i grab everyone's attention without any effort . I fill the room with energy and light up everything 🎉
Now i understood That why everyone gives me more attention . Everyone loves me a lot . I can make anyone fall for me just at a single glance .
Wow , I'm such a perfect seducer.🎉🎉🎉 party party yeah
I think we have to stay away then😅
I find it cap, you won’t seduce me
Alternatively, you're delusional and need to grow up
There are even people who can be all to achieve their goals
I have mostly three traits, 1. Dandy for always trying to look the best in situation, 2. Couquette because i can be a warming person 1 day and the next day i behave like i never knew the person, 3. A little bit of natural, because i don't have much experience in social situations i always give a childish and naive vibe
Combo of charismatic, dandy and star. However, I tend to be Coquette with people I truly disdain . Which is not good according to Rob Greene (Narcissistic traits it would seem uh oh 😅) . Great video! 😊
coquette with people you disdain sounds like immoral dick
Thank you for this video Robert. It's a bit difficult to know my type. All I know is that I tend to attract the same type of women and they are bold, confident, assertive, extroverted. These are women who studied law, love sports, cars. They have a masculine temperament according to me. One thing is for sure, I don't attract shy prudish women like the Rakes. But I don't know why only these types get attracted to me. Where would I fall into ? Maybe a coquette. I honestly don't know.
What personality traits do you have? Maybe you're a bit of an effeminate man (no offence) that attracts masculine women. My bad if you're not that type of guy at all
Maybe natural
The Dandy probably
I would say as a male the one I identify with the most is the Rake.
The main problem with this archetype is that it leads to unfulfillment.
And the coquette is the most attractive female for me, but also the most painful.
She will act interested, but the next day won't be anymore and will even act very bad.
But then all of the sudden she'll come back and show interest again, troubling you and making you forgive her.
Her craziness is weirdly attractive in a way.
Rakes like the chase , challenge and obstacles
As a coquette, I'm strangely attracted to Rakes 🤷♀️ But I never get too close to them
You’re attracted to the player and she’s attracted to the game 🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽
Art Of Seduction Is Definitely One Of My Best Reads By Robert Greene, However How Can We Define One Who Possesses All These Seductive Traits With Awareness. .
I have three of these qualities. The Rake, The Dandy, and The Natural.
Dating isn't that hard for me.
Hello Robert, huge fan of your books and I recently read the Art of seduction, and I noticed one thing all the seductive people mentioned are dead so I had one question, you probably get asked this question a lot, who are the most prominent seductive people of our time in your opinion?
I am all of the above, its just depends on who im talking to 😂
I think it has become much more about looks with time because people see more beautiful people because TV celebrities and then internet. Therefore the strategist gets as good looking as possible without losing the thread.
these concepts are very interesting. only thing that is sad when you master these is sometimes you actually feel lonely inside because people are scared to approach you.
Im definitely the charismatic, i always smile and light up at people, as a man.
50% dandy
50% natural
I like being intense, present, curious, playful, teasing and even flamboyant.
I am not a rake nor a star. I think dandy and star are quite the opposite, to be honest. Dandy show their energy hard, more the more seductive, but the star doesn't, show fantasy projection is possible.
I got coquette, dandy, and star. I could relate a lot with corvette and star since I tend to avoid those I like while making sure I'm seen, stands out, and sweet to them when their around but also cold and nonchalant at times. I wonder tho, how's a dandy like? I don't know why I keep getting dandy because I can only partly relate with it. I love coming off intellectual and all but most of my image is still wrapped up in looking and being feminine. I'm pretty adventurous tho and wants to come across as challenging. I just have this more stylish elegant appearance and then would slowly reveal this more spontaneous side (on one-to-one).
Does that sound like a star-dandy-coquette to you? How do you imagine this type to be and do you even think it's possible?
I mean, as you said, dandies and stars are the complete opposite.
Oh and I meant ignore. I avoid those I used to like and no longer do lol.
As for the projection thing, yeah. I'm just a walking mannequin sometimes. I can be very reactive at home but that rarely or never shows in public.
Anyhow, I really relate to the whole teasing thing! Aren't Coquettes like that as well!? I believe my third type can either be dandy or natural, I'm just not quite sure yet!
Can you elaborate how they manifest differently? Like how do you distinguish them? Thanks.
He had forgotten to mention the ideal lover which I strongly resonate with but I also see myself as a little bit of a coquette.
Also missed out the charmer
I’m a mix of; The Siren, The Ideal Lover, The Charmer, The Charismatic and The Coquette. Also called “The Empathic Enchanter”. According to an AI.
You are everything. The perfect seducer lol
Was it chat gpt
KEEPING the WORKSLAVES distracted and antagonistic!
I’m a mix of natural and coquette. I can be bubbly one sec when I have the energy then cold and aloof the next.
Definitely a combo of the natural and the charismatic. Not neccessarily in sexual relationships, but just social.
I have an odd ability to seduce those i work for with my confidence and personality. Almost to my own detriment because it puts me in situations I really am not prepared for and allows me to get jobs I really shouldn't.
I would like to use it as a skill to better my career but all the jobs I have done, I have either hated but was good at them, or liked at least a bit but could never get good enough so I have constantly found new jobs and never had the chance to use the ability to I guess prgress in my career. I am not even 23 and have had 8 jobs across 7 industries, and about to be number 9. I am hoping this new one is a better fit as I lean more and more towards what I want to do.
Have you looked at your charts for career information that you are made for? Astrology, numerology, human design, Myers Briggs, enneagram?
@@lucid2184 my Myers Briggs changes with the environment I am in which I find quite interesting. Other than that, I do the Hexaco personality test once every 6 months or so to track my fall comings
@@reddrift3022 astrology, numerology and Human Design are not quizzes -- not about logic and do not change. They are about your mechanics when you were born that you can refer to in order to maneuver and live your highest potential. Life changing studies.
@@reddrift3022 I've never heard of hexaco personality test-- gonna check it out 👊
@@lucid2184 It's far more in-depth and it's what a lot of universities use for research if they need to map personalities for a study.
And if you have ever heard of someone mention success people being high in conscientiousness, they are referring to this test.
Robert please have a talk or an interview with Teal Swan. She is a true siren and a charismatic and hyperintelligent. You will love her. I think you will have an amazing conversation together!!
Johanna I second that. I've been listening to her for over 10 yr even before she changed her name. She is truly gifted and amazing. Her videos and insight got me through some really rough times. She has helped me heal on so many levels and my relationships with myself and others are better because of her wisdom ❤. We're talking paradigm shifts here! That is why I love Robert Green too. He is so amazing and intelligent- I love listening and learning from people like this.
I really like this characterization of philosophy.
❤ Seduction is the first book by Robert Green that i read & turned me on 💯 % to ALL of ROBERT GREEN BOOKS Great analysts / informative & helpful to navigate life fun read & beneficial = success🎉
I’ll classify myself among the charmers and charismatics.
lol nice
Why I think whatever Robert is saying may be true and not a hypothesis
Or why I think whatever Robert is saying hypothetical
How do I know whatever he is saying is right and not a fiction ?
Sirens are alerting, abnoxious and loud. Lol
I read this book, and he claimed in that too that we all had at least one seducer in us.
First I thought maybe the Siren (the sex siren sub-type), as I am feminine and have natural curves in my body shape that I didn't notice until it got attention, similarly to the anecdote about Monroe's tight fitting sweater. I also have the childlike girl like quality because people seem to want to help me a lot, to take care of me (the siren was described to have a childlike, innocent nature to them).
Then I thought about the Dandy, not because i play with my appearance but because I have stereo typically masculine traits and interests (i work in stem for example)
And I thought about the cold coquette too, since I am naturally shy and elusive of most people.
If I was asked about another person i know well I could probably say what kind of seducer they are in a heartbeat. In my normal daily life I probably come across The Natural, The Charmer and The Charismatic the most. Sometimes also the Siren. The Ideal Lover and The Star for sure is the most rare seducers, ive never come across anyone who fits that type. The book made me much more aware of how someone is seducing me and how the methods he describes in the books are actually things many people do naturally and sub consciously (ie entering their spirit, people do this all the time through personality mirroring). Its interesting suddenly becoming aware of why someone is attracting me and realising im being seduced.
Ahh but when the siren meets the rake 🥵😳 lol
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As someone who definitely identifies as a siren, I dated a rake. Fun and passionate for sure but it's short-lived.
I just realized. I am the Rake.
Charming and both charismatic
Ready to hear people’s experiences in the comments with all these types and who they preferred and who they had most difficulty’s with dealing!
The siren, the natural and the coquette 🤍
I'm none of these. I'm 50 and haven't had a single relationship and now doomscroll for enjoyment since I don't have the courage to actively hurt people
Wish there was an in-details
video based on IDEAL LOVER
Im a combination of dandy, natural and star. I can be a coquette when Im trying to get away from somethingnI cant say no too.
I really dislike other Naturals esp and Rakes in general are boring.
I'm definitely a natural and I see characteristics of the rake and charismatic
I assume I'm the coquette & dandy.. and attracted to the ideal lover (not mentioned in this video).
My female ego is too big to go after rakes..
Please make another video including the ideal lover
Listening to this and hearing all the types, and not fitting in to any. Realising I have no seductive quality. Life is pain
I am fascinating reading everyone’s idea of who they are. I would love to see if the people who know all of you would agree!! I’m so freakin curious!!!
Rake is my strongest suit but I also embody the natural and a star
Im the rake and natural
i’m male siren
So easy to understand women with logic made confident decision about start her own family and she is picking the totally opposite of herself ( roller coasters lovers ) because she is better loved with the labyrinth of her knowledge mindset. Same thing with a man - logic man often attracts better with Merlin Monroe . How to change mindset for safety ride with roller coaster? One solution is to tight him to her BELT like her keychain
I think I fall in category of natural and charismatic
i might be the charimatic cause whenever i talk everyone listen to me and want to stay around me trying to befriend me and making me laugh so i think they are cool and stuff like when i go in a new place people want to befriend me in any way trying to conserve with me
I would say I’m a star 🌟 for sureee, judging off how people describe me, not that this is at all my first instinct to think of myself as one.
I’m have a somewhat unconventional look, I often feel like I’m on a stage I’m public, I’m very intentional with my movements and keep my face blank and a dreamy expression (only because I am shy and nervous) and often have people go out of their way to compliment me or ask me out.
I don’t reveal a lot about myself, except with close friends, however people often say they see themselves in me. People even my close friends describe me and mystical, also cat like with my calculated movements but contradicting this I am also seen as very free and expressive. 🤷♀️
Oh god i am a siren, but would hate a rake
The coquette
Question so would you guys say a star is a person of mystery, quiet and distant??
i don't recognize any of this behavior in my self
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Yea thats my issue I feel like I relate to different seducer traits. Hard for me to pinpoint myself
The personality type "logician" (INTP) and the star work very well tovether i think.
Interesting
@MyMotif i think a star is more like a mystery. Someone who is more distant, reserved and mysterious. Hard to discover his true self and leaves room for alot of imagination. Strong eye contact also yes.
@MyMotif that's a good sign. Always wise to not reveal everything about yourself at the beginning anyway. Leaving room for imagination is very important. I like to give very vague answers to questions from the start. You can feel the heightened senses from her immediately and it can transition boring conversations into excitement very fast but only if she's atleast somewhat interested in you from the start.
@MyMotif i'm an INTP and I think we match mostly with the charmer, i don't think it's mentioned in this video but they have great understanding of others and are very flexible overall
I am the Natural and the Star.
I think I'm a natural mixed with a dandy at time but when I'm in an outfit I love and make up I give off siren energy but that's just in my opinion
I think I'm dandy or maybe rake because I'm too much interested in women❤
Im definitely a rake.
Do you guys think, that one of the seductive type is stronger then the other one? Or can they be evenly strong when used?
Did he miss The Charmer? That was my favorite from his book.
Can you elaborate the types of relationships that exist between the rake and the coquette, or a rake and a siren.
I think I am a Rake and Charisma seducer
The ideal lover and the coquette
I have 2 if I pushed myself can possess 3 thank you for the video
I am definately a Coquette, its somehow narcissistic I would say.
What if 'The One' have all of these quality and can effect not only human but also anything that present in nature like Sky, Air, Fire, Water and earth but don't want to use it for personal wellbeing because the purpose is the "Awakening of the soul" of humankind... Then whome to effect?
Rake/dandy and sometimes natural
I worked a lot in ma game
Now we even have seduction nerds
What is the different between siren and pervert
I don't know if Kaun counts as a rake bit his offspring number definitely is something to take seriously
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I think if I were to approximate which type i am closer to, none in my opinion, when thinking of how people perceived me: they all saw me as a naive person because i have more of a childish face I guess because of the big eyes? It bothers me that this is the kind of vibes I give off. It's almost as being seen to be a stupid idiot, cuz that what naive means.
I am shocked to hear it could ever be a good thing to be perceived like this.
I'm surprised he didn't mention prince as a famous dandy 😮
I don't think siren is limited to women tho
the charismatic x
I’m a natural I guess…I feel like I’m more like a victim in search for a saviour…like a child. And for some reason, children are drawn to me - maybe because they sense this childlike energy in me and feel safe.
Na bro, that’s not what that is. You watch to much porn that’s why you feel like a victim and need a savior. Quit beating your meat and you’ll see your personality changes. The natural, and being child like in nature doesn’t mean you want someone to save you, it means you’re more playful with people and play along with them or talk to them in an innocent manner. Don’t give me that “I don’t watch porn” lie and save yourself. If you do that, watch your personality drastically change.
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I’ve been the dandy for years without knowing. More I read about it the more I know I’m a dandy. Even societies reaction to me