I'm pretty sure it's mentioned in this game that she was a leo as well. Everything in two truths and a lie is stuff you hear about rachel in the first game.
You can find out she's a Leo in the first game too if you read the letters she wrote to Frank. One of them mentiones "I'm a Leo, and we never look back."
Luke Hindle everytime I play LiS again and they mention Rachel I’ll just start crying... she was really good character and it’s heartbreaking knowing she’ll die.
I never really thought frank was a bad person and the reason why he was liked that was because he hated himself and he blames himself for Rachel disappearing so i don't blame him
Same here but I was super pissed cause I rewound after warning her and didn't realize how far back I rewound, and then found her dead I was like aw man wtf 😒
He may not always show it but, Frank really is a good man. Rachel’s story is so complicated to lots of people are getting pretty smart theories of her.
Why is everyone overlooking the fact Frank was a grownass man in his 30s getting it on w a 17-18 y/o and their relationship started when Rachel was a minor
This game was set in 2013. And most teens at that time were not aware of pedophilia and abuse. And to be fair, frank is not a predator. He genuinely cared about Rachel.
@@BulkBogan1920 All of this is assuming that she started dating him before she was 18 years old. I feel like you guys are just assuming she was underage even though the game doesn't mention it lmao. Having an older boyfriend at 18 years old isn't the best decision, but it definitely isn't pedophiliac in nature
I told him, but I really didn't want to tell him the details. I felt like he should know she's gone, but it felt wrong to immediately be like "yeah she got tortured and drugged to death and then crudely buried sorry man". Poor guy
Ones who seemed so violent and obsessed were actually damn good people who just hurt their fragile minds. One asshole who seemed so perfect and nice was actually goddamned psychopath who deserves to be slaughtered 10 times harsher than his victims. And while I could bring justice to Jefferson and his minion('s family), still there was no way for poor souls to be saved no matter what I choose. Fuck you game... This was the first time I cried after "game".
James Watson If she was smart enough, yes. But she is only a teenager who obviously cannot consider all the consequences that her act may cause. I feel sorry for possibilities she missed but I do not blame her.
lead writer o lis before the storm said :'' We’ve loved working in the Life is Strange universe and would consider any opportunity that felt right to return to Arcadia Bay, for sure.''
they can make a season 2 with Frank's scar-like mark on his throat area and his relationship with Rachel , mrJeffersonn, how rachel dissapear and more!!!!!!!But For now dontnot games have announced they are working on a life is strange 2 !(google ''A special message from DONTNOD Entertainment'')
That would be awesome and I still have hope that someday we'll get all the answers we want. But at the moment, the developers stated that new Life is Strange 2, will be with a complete different cast and that makes me sad but excited at the same time 'cause we'll have the opportunity to fall in love with new characters and a brand new story!
Frank's darkest hours, he's lost everything, his home, his product, all his stuff, literally laying on the floor with no first aid kit to mend his wounds. Can life possibly get any worse? "Frank you know that girl you loved, Rachel..... yeah she's dead". "Sorry Frank" Frank's got a good soul. Let his Lioness Rest In Peace
Frank became my favorite character by the end of this series. ✱(Spoilers below)✱ ⬇ ⬇ ⬇ ⬇ And when they showed him at Chloe's funeral, not with everyone else but still there, watching alone with Pompidou from a ways off behind a tree, it made me sob my heart out. Geez, I'm actually starting to tear up right now, just remembering and writing about it, seriously😢😭. Idk, it was just one of the most heart-wrenching scenes I've ever watched. Guess it's because I can totally relate, because me and my dog are just like how Frank and his dog were: always together, just the two of them, only having each other 😔😟
i know its kinda impossible but it would be so good if they make a rachel's prequel, like they did with chole , or if they make a story about max living in seattle before she comes back to arcadia bay
I would love to see more about Rachel's relationships, but I think that after Before the Storm we won't have the chance to see her anymore. Since Dontnod said they are planning to make a sequel to Life is Strange, I'd like to play maybe as Nathan and to try to save her. You may think I'm weird, but I'd like to see something about Jefferson too. In a letter that Rachel's never delivered to Chloe, you can read that she had met someone who changed her life, who she hung out near the school with and who had experienced some weird shit too. I'd like to know more about that, 'cause it's obvious she's talking about Jefferson.
What Max could do is find a picture of herself at the time around Rachel disappearing. Then she could go back to that pic and travel to Blackwell to warn/save Rachel.
The Programmer of video games The person means what if Max found a photo OF HERSELF around or before the time Rachel was missing. She then could have gone to Arcadia bay and saved Rachel
i feel so angry and so bad for all of them being manipulated by jefferson. after playing through before the storm, i don't see any way out because the town has suffered so much - warren and kate, frank, victoria, david and joyce, it goes on... even nathan was manipulated by jefferson and didn't deserve to die. they all deserve a second chance after being put through hell, and i think the only way to get that is to sacrifice chloe :(
for me not, all that city was hell, and you already left Chloe alone,why you want to do It again?:) I find it much better to let her live, on the other hand some part of Chloe died with her father, which happens to some of us too, from that point of view, yeah,put her out of her misery,but for me It's only right to save her, those who will want to run out of city, will run,those who want to keep wealthy shit will stay. :)
Lauris Medus to be honest, I completely understand your perspective completely as well! that’s why I couldn’t actually bring myself to sacrifice chloe even though I thought I would when I first played through LiS. the emotions are too real :’(
i want Rachel Aliveeeee!. i hope DONTNOD makes another season of Life is Strange but it would be named... Life is Strange: After The Storm. then Max an Chloe would find Rachel
+MrMint ,Max can only travel,through photo that she's in,Max has never met Rachel prior to life is strange or before,so that's out. and The developers already told us that season 2 was going to be a new story entirely with different characters. So Max and Chloe's stories are done.
goldsoul Rachel didn’t actually treat Chloe well. She was there, but not like Max was. She lied a lot, and she cheated a lot. Not just with Jefferson and Frank, but with other guys too. Chloe deserved better
@@beth641 Rachel used frank, Rachel only wanted to be photographed by Jefferson since she wanted to be a Model all the things Jefferson said in the dark room like for example “Rachel was in love with me that’s not my ego just look at our sessions he’s probably just saying that
I personally think Frank is the most underrated character in the entire series. Sure, he's a dealer so of course you think he's heartless. But when you look at his relationship with Rachel, you see he was truly a stand-up guy.
Exactly,Rachel was only using him…but about frank having good intentions,we can see in the note she wrote for him that he was acting aggressive with her that’s why she left him
It's so so sad. This game brings the topic a lot of people won't talk about and people forget it happens irl. All Rachel wanted was to be happy and leave Arcadia bay. Chloe sacrificed almost everything. And max saw all the deaths and outcomes of people and had to fix it and it still didn't make a difference because either way almost everyone dies in both endings.
@@rickrossstagedive3490 there’s a rumour that the next life is strange game will be that you play as Rachel amber and see her P.O.V when she hangout with Frank and Jefferson but that’s not 100% confirmed
I think what changed Frank from before the storm was killing Damon. Wasn't proud of it but the first person he killed. He wasn't a bad man he just made some bad choices
Man, Frank isn't all that bad like people say. He's doing what he can to survive. I think it's sad that first of all, the only light in his life is gone and he has to live with the guilt that he sold to Nathan what killed her. He didn't kill her himself at least.
i noticed at Rachel's photo with nathan in the dark room. I'm still hoping that Rachel is still alive because when Jefferson took that shot of Rachel, Nathan was with her am i right? and also rachel is a great actress, it could be possible that Rachel posed for those pics. according to the wise old lady, Everything in Arcadia Bay was Connected to Rachel so i assume that the old lady knows who rachel is and what rachel is aware of. i think that like Max, Rachel has a Gift. Rachel knows everything, she even knows what chloe did to the security guard at the mill even though she wasn't there.
Isn't it weird that you could've chosen "No" when he asked Max if she saw that it was Rachel? I mean they didn't see her they only found a dead body but they didn't take a look. They only assumed that it was her. Maybe she is still alive somehow...
In Life Is Strange, Chloe says that Rachel "met someone who changed her life" before disappearing, that person was Mark Jefferson, and she also had romantic interests in it
she hooked up with him. he fell in love with her, but she didn't feel the same as she was dating Chloe; she just was using him to fuel her drug dependence/possibly addiction.
I was so happy when Frank helped but I was so mad when there was no option to first call Frank after finding the corpse! I would have called him and made him watch the corpse!
so Nathan Prescott was the one whom killed Rachel Amber wit that overdose joining forces with Jefferson? this is what I've heard in that cutscene I've just watched.
frank is a really complex character. i dont like him, but at the same time, i love him as a character. i dont know, he just acted as a general uncle figure, and truly loved rachael and wanted the best for her.
SPOILER WARNING FOR BEFORE THE STORM!!!! In light of episode 3 of before the storm - I agree much more. Plus he's wrestling that he killed his 'best friend' - and could have prevented even more harm coming to Rachel if he had intervened earlier. He turned a blind eye to the actions of Damon, and let the person he cared about most get hurt because of it. Its also important that (in this video Frank learns) Rachel was killed with an overdose - in the same way that Frank was there when Sera died in the same manner. He feels even more responsibility therefore for his involvement, even if it was simply supplying the drugs used to both Damon and later Nathan - and because of the untraceable nature of them, Frank knows that he is unlikely to face legal justice. He hates himself, and hates the actions that he has taken. And while he blames himself for Rachel's death. While I don't think he is a bad person, Frank certainly considers himself this way - which adds to the tragedy of his character.
honestly glad to know the redeeming qualities of him, nathan and david cuz i really liked them even before i saw much of those good qualities, probably because they weren't bad on purpose...?? eeehhhhhh idk love them even more now tho, i liked mr jefferson too because he SEEMED like a great teacher but i was too lost on finally seeing a dreamer become a teacher to see the obvious =((
I didnt like Frank. Selling drugs to the kids and then getting with rachel who was literally a kid and him being twice her age. She wanted to use these guys to get out of arcadia bay but he didnt have to say yes lol. I liked how he let chloe off and stuff but that rachel part was just creepy. And of course giving these kids all these drugs to mess them up more.Love this game though. Really wish they'd continue with max and these characters. it was all about her powers and now it's changed so much. More of the backstory would be great too.
im upset rachel and frank were a thing because it meant rachel was lying to chloe the whole time they were hanging out in the end scenes of before the storm
@@minhphuongnguyen576 I mean, i guess your right on that part. though facial animation would have contributed alot to that, and the first game was not very... well for a lack of better words good at that.
Jefferson could have been a good actor he was just playing a role so no one gets suspicious about him. He tried to look like the gentle and charming teacher at school but it was really just an act he was trying to hide his sick personality and manipulated everyone with lies. He was like a snake that could change his skin so other people can't suspect him
When Frank finds out that Rachel is dead, he say "I killed my lioness". In Before the Storm we find out that Rachel is leo.
slavo held Ikr 😍 how sweet
yeah but something is wrong about that, on her wiki page it says she was born july 22nd, and that would make her a cancer and not a leo.
Dedea actually I don't know. Different websites say different things... I got Leo, and you got cancer.
I'm pretty sure it's mentioned in this game that she was a leo as well. Everything in two truths and a lie is stuff you hear about rachel in the first game.
You can find out she's a Leo in the first game too if you read the letters she wrote to Frank. One of them mentiones "I'm a Leo, and we never look back."
Frank is a stand up guy. Since playing Before the Storm, I saw his humanity finally. He's just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
i mean how would you react if suddenly your girlfriend just disappear, not to mention rachel's freaking hot af.
So true😊. Frank is my favorite character by a long-shot, no competition
yes but in the dark room max comments: "how did frank sell all this drugs and not ask questions" or something like that.
Tola Vong not his girlfriend
wasn't rachel still underage when they got involved? "stand up guy"
I actually liked Frank. He was a cool character. Nice to see him returning to Life is strange before the storm.
Cynex frank is awesome.
TJ Calhoun also at the end in front of a trailer
Fuckin' read it in Rick's voice "I-I actually really li-liked Frank *BURP* He-He was such a cool character"
Indeed Obama, indeed
Hey Rick I am pretty sure in another timeline you went to Chloe and Rachel are happy together right?
"My lioness." Awww. That's so sweet and sad at the same time.
Remembered Shae from Game of Thrones for no reason at all.
Rachel's sign is Leo as well
I keep on forgettting she is a leo
She sais shes a leo but her birthday doesnt land in leo look it up. Pretty sure shes a virgo.
Dominic Hartford she is definitely not a Virgo, I think you’re getting her mixed up with max. She was born on July 22, with makes her a cancer.
its even more depressing knowing Rachel is dead after playing before the storm
17 missed calls killed me
Luke Hindle everytime I play LiS again and they mention Rachel I’ll just start crying... she was really good character and it’s heartbreaking knowing she’ll die.
@@klarkaa9 ok that's a bit over dramatic don't you think?
@@turtlemaster2957 Yeah
I never really thought frank was a bad person and the reason why he was liked that was because he hated himself and he blames himself for Rachel disappearing so i don't blame him
nico yazawa u
nico yazawa Well...i should tell him that I'm sorry then
I've been dead for a while...
Victoria Chase A little, he did try to save me though..
I always liked Frank. He's a really cool dude.
I was eating those beans
By Tidux in ep2 Of before the storm, in the backtalk challenge, his logo is a can of beans 😂
By Tidux lol dem beans😂😂😂😂
Geovone
And if you open one of the cabinets on his RV, you'll see a lot of bean cans. This guy has a problem 😂😂😂
I’m sorry but like I can’t stop laughing.
I W A S E A T I N G T H O S E F U C K I N G B E A N S
I killed my lioness. God you can hear the guilt and blame so loud in that sentence. :(
I'm glad I warned the homeless woman! :0
Same here but I was super pissed cause I rewound after warning her and didn't realize how far back I rewound, and then found her dead I was like aw man wtf 😒
Same!
He may not always show it but, Frank really is a good man. Rachel’s story is so complicated to lots of people are getting pretty smart theories of her.
He isn't a good man. He's done bad things. But saying that, he's by no means a bad man, as he's done good things too
@@gosling4391 Ya like he isn't the best guy but he has a heart
@@gosling4391 😊😊
yes good men sell drugs to kids and groom them all the time
Why is everyone overlooking the fact Frank was a grownass man in his 30s getting it on w a 17-18 y/o and their relationship started when Rachel was a minor
This game was set in 2013. And most teens at that time were not aware of pedophilia and abuse. And to be fair, frank is not a predator. He genuinely cared about Rachel.
@@evenstevensteven Dude you know paedophilia was around before 2013? Like most people despised that. Nowadays it's slowly being accepted...
@@BulkBogan1920 All of this is assuming that she started dating him before she was 18 years old. I feel like you guys are just assuming she was underage even though the game doesn't mention it lmao. Having an older boyfriend at 18 years old isn't the best decision, but it definitely isn't pedophiliac in nature
Rachel wasn't a minor she was 18 at the time she dated Frank Chloe says it was 6 months ago
@@evenstevensteven
So if a 50 year old genuinely cares about a 14 year old it’s okay? 🤔
I lied to him, I guess I just didn't want to make him feel worse than he already did with everything else going on.
I told him, but I really didn't want to tell him the details. I felt like he should know she's gone, but it felt wrong to immediately be like "yeah she got tortured and drugged to death and then crudely buried sorry man". Poor guy
Jane Tris he may b a drug dealer, but he's more likeble than Chloe.
@@katiebayliss9887 actually chloe is a sheep in wolves clothing.
I loved Frank, and now I love him even more after playing Before the Storm
Twenity ツ Considering the game has lesbian/bisexual options that I explored, yeah, I might be hella gay.
lol i didnt mean that seriously
Twenity ツ I didnt take offense. I just felt it was the best response I could come up with at the moment, haha
I sorta liked frank in life is strange but after before the storm he became one of my firm favourite characters
Well, after I play before the storm, I still don’t like him. He groomed Rachel
Ones who seemed so violent and obsessed were actually damn good people who just hurt their fragile minds. One asshole who seemed so perfect and nice was actually goddamned psychopath who deserves to be slaughtered 10 times harsher than his victims.
And while I could bring justice to Jefferson and his minion('s family), still there was no way for poor souls to be saved no matter what I choose. Fuck you game... This was the first time I cried after "game".
박희찬 Oh come on, it's not like Mr. Jefferson did anything more than drugging them and taking pictures of them without their consent.
Are you defending him!?
Pretty sure she's being sarcastic...
박희찬 Max can reverse time using photographs, she could stop Rachel and Chlie from dying and put Jefferson away and stop people from dying in the storm.
James Watson If she was smart enough, yes. But she is only a teenager who obviously cannot consider all the consequences that her act may cause. I feel sorry for possibilities she missed but I do not blame her.
That was soo freaking sad!
Jared Kleinman his acting was bad!!
^Like your comment...
Watching this after ep 3 of before the storm breaks my heart. There so many unaswered questions... maybie a sequel to the prequel ??? (Please)
lead writer o lis before the storm said :'' We’ve loved working in the Life is Strange universe and would consider any opportunity that felt right to return to Arcadia Bay, for sure.''
warriorgt7 Gr That gives me hope
they can make a season 2 with Frank's scar-like mark on his throat area and his relationship with Rachel , mrJeffersonn, how rachel dissapear and more!!!!!!!But For now dontnot games have announced they are working on a life is strange 2 !(google ''A special message from DONTNOD Entertainment'')
Yea I know, and Im happy that we get a season two but Ive grown so attached to the whole arcadia bay cast, its hard to let go :(
That would be awesome and I still have hope that someday we'll get all the answers we want. But at the moment, the developers stated that new Life is Strange 2, will be with a complete different cast and that makes me sad but excited at the same time 'cause we'll have the opportunity to fall in love with new characters and a brand new story!
Frank's darkest hours, he's lost everything, his home, his product, all his stuff, literally laying on the floor with no first aid kit to mend his wounds. Can life possibly get any worse?
"Frank you know that girl you loved, Rachel..... yeah she's dead".
"Sorry Frank"
Frank's got a good soul.
Let his Lioness Rest In Peace
I played before the storm before the first life is strange and I fuckin teared up knowing bb girl Rachel was gonna die
I guess you can say , warren never saw it coming
Ducky Lucky THIS AINT PERSONA D:
Warren would have never seen it coming, even if it hit him in the face 😂
I killed Chloe so Pompidue the doggo wouldnt die. worth it
Joel i did too lol
Joel i love you
Joel thx
joel i love you
Chloe Price Well, there you are again lol. I didn't expect to see you here.
Pompidou is so cute
He puts his head on your lap if you decide to sit down in one of the booths.
Frank became my favorite character by the end of this series.
✱(Spoilers below)✱
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And when they showed him at Chloe's funeral, not with everyone else but still there, watching alone with Pompidou from a ways off behind a tree, it made me sob my heart out. Geez, I'm actually starting to tear up right now, just remembering and writing about it, seriously😢😭. Idk, it was just one of the most heart-wrenching scenes I've ever watched. Guess it's because I can totally relate, because me and my dog are just like how Frank and his dog were: always together, just the two of them, only having each other 😔😟
Rebecca Taylor you have to play before the storm you seem more frank and how he help Chloe
Yea Rebecca play the other part too.
True even tho his relationship with Rachel was weird. Like I get that he cared and she wasn't a minor it's still weird. But hey the guy has a heart.
Now, i'm so sad about Rachel's dead. I'm just was cold about this, when i playing in episode 5.
KorsaTuS THINK ABOUT BEFORE THE STORM AND YOU'LL FEEL EVEN MORE SAD :CCCCCCC
i know its kinda impossible but it would be so good if they make a rachel's prequel, like they did with chole , or if they make a story about max living in seattle before she comes back to arcadia bay
Max living in Seattle would be amazingly boring
"What about Rachel?"
"Let's just say.... just get your shotgun Frank... we have work to do.... teachers to hunt.... a monster to kill..."
His Lioness? That's so cute...
No it's not
No it's not
I would love to see more about Rachel's relationships, but I think that after Before the Storm we won't have the chance to see her anymore. Since Dontnod said they are planning to make a sequel to Life is Strange, I'd like to play maybe as Nathan and to try to save her. You may think I'm weird, but I'd like to see something about Jefferson too. In a letter that Rachel's never delivered to Chloe, you can read that she had met someone who changed her life, who she hung out near the school with and who had experienced some weird shit too. I'd like to know more about that, 'cause it's obvious she's talking about Jefferson.
Yes the devs confirmed the guy in the letter was Jefferson
I actually like Frank after this conversation as he was misunderstood even though he is a loving guy. He just missed his "lioness".
Why didn't Max go to get a photo from before Rachel died and stop Rachel from dying?
Juliya Casias because max isnt in the photo
Fire Walk With Me why does she need to be in the dang photo 😒
Juliya Casias because the story would end too happy
What if max died instead of Rachel?
Juliya Casias then i die too
Seeing this again after playing before the storm and knowing that the good times with rachel aren't going to last makes me sad for Chloe
thats storm is like hurricane irma
lekkere pizza goed the eclipse was real too😮😮😮
JosephHarn totally nothing funny tho...
TRUEE
Brysi Gamer so damn fuunny
It’s a Sharknado
Can you tell Joyce about Chloe?
SuperNickBowser nope
Keyser Söze How about that she's dead??
Keyser Söze how about you growing up?
No, that she is a hella steampunk.
Keyser Söze awh the sweet copy and paste ♡ nah thanks kiddo
Chloe (17 missed calls)
17 likes how ironic
Stop it ima cry
*I W A S E A T I N G T H O S E B E A N S*
What Max could do is find a picture of herself at the time around Rachel disappearing. Then she could go back to that pic and travel to Blackwell to warn/save Rachel.
Max can only travel to photos she's only in! .Rachel can't be saved let it go!.
The Programmer of video games The person means what if Max found a photo OF HERSELF around or before the time Rachel was missing. She then could have gone to Arcadia bay and saved Rachel
@@GhostFan-ev4di No! Don’t be d pessimist!
Frank is a real hero after all.
I liked frank he was just mean because he thought it was his fault for Rachel being gone and that he lost her but franks a cool dude
Warren still sounds kinda joyful and silly even when he’s self hating
i feel so angry and so bad for all of them being manipulated by jefferson. after playing through before the storm, i don't see any way out because the town has suffered so much - warren and kate, frank, victoria, david and joyce, it goes on... even nathan was manipulated by jefferson and didn't deserve to die. they all deserve a second chance after being put through hell, and i think the only way to get that is to sacrifice chloe :(
for me not, all that city was hell, and you already left Chloe alone,why you want to do It again?:) I find it much better to let her live, on the other hand some part of Chloe died with her father, which happens to some of us too, from that point of view, yeah,put her out of her misery,but for me It's only right to save her, those who will want to run out of city, will run,those who want to keep wealthy shit will stay. :)
Lauris Medus to be honest, I completely understand your perspective completely as well! that’s why I couldn’t actually bring myself to sacrifice chloe even though I thought I would when I first played through LiS. the emotions are too real :’(
That’s why they all need to die
Rachel and frank are my favourite characters in the life is strange series
i want Rachel Aliveeeee!. i hope DONTNOD makes another season of Life is Strange but it would be named... Life is Strange: After The Storm. then Max an Chloe would find Rachel
Kehaianah Abaya the already found her in the ground because SHE DEAD
they didn't even opened the garbage bag. they just smelled the stinky scent
Max can travel back in time. So why not a LiS about Max and Chloe trying to save Rachel?
Yeah but fans will be torn between Max x Chloe and Chloe x Rachel... damn... i wanted Rachel and Chloe bc it was damn canon... but Max and Chloe uhh
+MrMint ,Max can only travel,through photo that she's in,Max has never met Rachel prior to life is strange or before,so that's out. and The developers already told us that season 2 was going to be a new story entirely with different characters. So Max and Chloe's stories are done.
not even halo nor any other game had touched me so deeply, thank you DONTNOD
Imagine if there was an ending where max sacrificed herself so Rachel could live
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻LOVE THAT
“My lioness” He’s like twice her age e w
i fucking love frank
same
god,GOD,the feels!,poor frank,poor,rachel,poor chloe,poor nathan,poor everyone! ;.;
Im so angry that rachel hooked up with frank because i ship amberprice so bad
goldsoul Rachel didn’t actually treat Chloe well. She was there, but not like Max was. She lied a lot, and she cheated a lot. Not just with Jefferson and Frank, but with other guys too. Chloe deserved better
@@beth641 Rachel used frank, Rachel only wanted to be photographed by Jefferson since she wanted to be a Model all the things Jefferson said in the dark room like for example “Rachel was in love with me that’s not my ego just look at our sessions he’s probably just saying that
seems like rachel was the one good thing is everyone’s life.
even mine.
Your life is good, so much time to make it your own. 🙂
I personally think Frank is the most underrated character in the entire series. Sure, he's a dealer so of course you think he's heartless. But when you look at his relationship with Rachel, you see he was truly a stand-up guy.
I don’t thing Frank is the most underrated but he’s definitely kinda underrated he’s personally my favourite character in the series
I mean yeah Frank had good intentions with Rachel but he was a lil too old for her and she only used him for his moola anyway
Rachel never loved him.
Exactly,Rachel was only using him…but about frank having good intentions,we can see in the note she wrote for him that he was acting aggressive with her that’s why she left him
But.. didn't Rachel & Chloe fall in love?
QveenHailsGaming Looks like they did... I think Rachel was using people to help her with running away with Chloe, but made friends
Rachel hooked up w Frank when she was high. She loves Chloe but Frank loves her.
source?
I think she used Frank to meet her mother.
@JokerBlacky go download second part of life is strange
It's so so sad. This game brings the topic a lot of people won't talk about and people forget it happens irl. All Rachel wanted was to be happy and leave Arcadia bay. Chloe sacrificed almost everything. And max saw all the deaths and outcomes of people and had to fix it and it still didn't make a difference because either way almost everyone dies in both endings.
How did him and Rachel get so close? Like wtf
Rachel had daddy issues so she went for older guys e.g. Frank and Jefferson
@@ImamMurrahTheTimeTraveller Exactly she had daddy issues
Even though I loved Before The Storm, I really wish they explored Rachel seeing multiple people at once more instead of glorifying her
@@rickrossstagedive3490 there’s a rumour that the next life is strange game will be that you play as Rachel amber and see her P.O.V when she hangout with Frank and Jefferson but that’s not 100% confirmed
@@lynxregions6724 omg that would be amazing
It’s disgusting that he liked a 17 year old teenager
She was 18
@@hsd287 that doesn’t change the fact that it was disgusting
I think what changed Frank from before the storm was killing Damon. Wasn't proud of it but the first person he killed. He wasn't a bad man he just made some bad choices
That was probably the biggest catalyst. Then Rachel disappearing seemed to have really devastated both Frank and Chloe.
rachel was a pure human :(
Man, Frank isn't all that bad like people say. He's doing what he can to survive.
I think it's sad that first of all, the only light in his life is gone and he has to live with the guilt that he sold to Nathan what killed her. He didn't kill her himself at least.
Frank was actually an awesome guy.
He was a good guy forced to do bad things to survive
i noticed at Rachel's photo with nathan in the dark room. I'm still hoping that Rachel is still alive because when Jefferson took that shot of Rachel, Nathan was with her am i right? and also rachel is a great actress, it could be possible that Rachel posed for those pics. according to the wise old lady, Everything in Arcadia Bay was Connected to Rachel so i assume that the old lady knows who rachel is and what rachel is aware of. i think that like Max, Rachel has a Gift. Rachel knows everything, she even knows what chloe did to the security guard at the mill even though she wasn't there.
Kehaianah Abaya they found her in the ground though..
that's what they think. they didn't even open the bag.
She is dead.
Kehayanuhhh Meiyn they did open the bag
Kinda accurate, but Rachel is dead unfortunately
knowing rachel’s fate in playing before storm hurts. alot.
I like how the whales diner says “Die” :)
Isn't it weird that you could've chosen "No" when he asked Max if she saw that it was Rachel? I mean they didn't see her they only found a dead body but they didn't take a look. They only assumed that it was her. Maybe she is still alive somehow...
They did see her body, it's just that we didn't. But they clearly were looking into the shallow grave that they dug out and they must have seen her.
Sorry, she's not alive.
@@erithywen421 🖕🏻
@@youtubetv3474 Lol
@@youtubetv3474 you're deluded my good sir
I can only imagine how guilty he feels knowing that it was his drugs that ended Rachel’s life.
I dont understand, what is his relationship with Rachel? will not show explicitly in the game?
Rachel was his girlfriend. I guess Rachel and Chloe didn't end up together in Before the Storm
In Life Is Strange, Chloe says that Rachel "met someone who changed her life" before disappearing, that person was Mark Jefferson, and she also had romantic interests in it
I wonder if the fire that William mentions is her
she hooked up with him. he fell in love with her, but she didn't feel the same as she was dating Chloe; she just was using him to fuel her drug dependence/possibly addiction.
BRAINWASHED She never dated Chloe. Lmao.
Let's all try to imagine what it would be like if Frank Bowers actually found Mark Jefferson alive!
I feel so sorry for him, he actually isn't a bad person. 😔
truly the best game of 2013-2014
I didn't say to Frank that Rachel died because of an overdose... I knew that he would blame himself.
Why isn’t Joyce asking about Chloe? Maybe I’m missing something?
Frank is surprisingly the most likable drug dealer character ever.
i vomited in my mouth a little when he called rachel his lioness
I was so happy when Frank helped but I was so mad when there was no option to first call Frank after finding the corpse! I would have called him and made him watch the corpse!
Samuel killed Rachel!!
It was all Samuel!!!
Samuel is a time traveler!!!!!!11
So he like a terminator?
Who is samuel
@@youtubetv3474 The janitor.
so Nathan Prescott was the one whom killed Rachel Amber wit that overdose joining forces with Jefferson? this is what I've heard in that cutscene I've just watched.
3:32 your welcome
Thank you...
video starts at 3:08
i felt so miserable playing this part :( ........ :.(
Um I'm confused in before the storm Chloe and Rachel r together did they break up I guess ? That's so sad there great together
She hooked up with both
BTS was 3 years before LIS1 so plenty of time for Rachel to hook up with Frank
Rachel and Chloe Weren’t together
Clearly Frank didn’t deserve that
But I still think Chloe and Rachel are way more cute
I can’t disagree max is a little weird but she’s also the character I relate the most with
This scene took me forever to finish
“god no please no not rachel she can’t fucking be” same frank.
frank is a really complex character. i dont like him, but at the same time, i love him as a character. i dont know, he just acted as a general uncle figure, and truly loved rachael and wanted the best for her.
1:23 is that officer berry? Oh my god... never notice this 😢
maybe its just me but Frank kinda looks like a blonde version of Norman Reedus.
davidevgen Bruh i used to watch your mkds videos 8 years ago
@@LtLogan nice :D i still make mkds video actually :P
SPOILER WARNING FOR BEFORE THE STORM!!!!
In light of episode 3 of before the storm - I agree much more. Plus he's wrestling that he killed his 'best friend' - and could have prevented even more harm coming to Rachel if he had intervened earlier. He turned a blind eye to the actions of Damon, and let the person he cared about most get hurt because of it.
Its also important that (in this video Frank learns) Rachel was killed with an overdose - in the same way that Frank was there when Sera died in the same manner.
He feels even more responsibility therefore for his involvement, even if it was simply supplying the drugs used to both Damon and later Nathan - and because of the untraceable nature of them, Frank knows that he is unlikely to face legal justice.
He hates himself, and hates the actions that he has taken. And while he blames himself for Rachel's death. While I don't think he is a bad person, Frank certainly considers himself this way - which adds to the tragedy of his character.
honestly glad to know the redeeming qualities of him, nathan and david cuz i really liked them even before i saw much of those good qualities, probably because they weren't bad on purpose...?? eeehhhhhh idk love them even more now tho, i liked mr jefferson too because he SEEMED like a great teacher but i was too lost on finally seeing a dreamer become a teacher to see the obvious =((
I lied to him. I couldn't tell him the truth, he wasn't a good person, but fuck if he loved Rachel. It broke my heart
I didnt like Frank. Selling drugs to the kids and then getting with rachel who was literally a kid and him being twice her age. She wanted to use these guys to get out of arcadia bay but he didnt have to say yes lol. I liked how he let chloe off and stuff but that rachel part was just creepy. And of course giving these kids all these drugs to mess them up more.Love this game though. Really wish they'd continue with max and these characters. it was all about her powers and now it's changed so much. More of the backstory would be great too.
@FlyingSpaceKatt in before the storm she was 15-16 and before the storm takes place in 2010 and the main game is in 2013
I miss you Maxxx for fuck sake
this scene breaks me every time.
Frank is definitely my favorite character.
It's kinda silly frank always called max kid or little girl. this bit cute
*I WAS EATING THOSE BEANS*
im upset rachel and frank were a thing because it meant rachel was lying to chloe the whole time they were hanging out in the end scenes of before the storm
Am I the only one who thinks that Mr. Jefferson is not creepy enough? Like I wish they would make him more intimidating that he is
i dont know, drugging, kidnapping, and taking photos of unconscious women seems pretty creepy to me.
KoiKoi his actions are definitely creepy but I'm talking about his character in general
@@minhphuongnguyen576 I mean, i guess your right on that part. though facial animation would have contributed alot to that, and the first game was not very... well for a lack of better words good at that.
Jefferson could have been a good actor he was just playing a role so no one gets suspicious about him. He tried to look like the gentle and charming teacher at school but it was really just an act he was trying to hide his sick personality and manipulated everyone with lies. He was like a snake that could change his skin so other people can't suspect him
Giann Antoe ye but still, like even in his basement he could have been creepier in a sense.
"have a noce day"... It was chloe from L.I.S before the storm? (episode 1)
rewatching this after playing LiS Before the Storm i am scared af that Rachel actually did this
by burning the forest?
@@bereal2479 yes
Rachel's the storm;(
poor frank dude he technically is the reason rachel’s dead. yes it is nathan’s fault completely but he sold him the drugs and ik he regrets it.