@@vegasj305not how they type of thing works, players are prohibited from being at the facility or having their personnel when "off" But their trainers are allowed to talk to the team
I think Love's contract should be incentive based, since he only had 9 wins in 2023. Nine wins doesn't sound like a $60 million a yr contract to me. If Love gets 12 wins in 2024, which is very doable with the schedule they have, then give him the $60 million a yr. Maybe, the Packers can have two contracts written up... one for if he have 12+ wins, and the other contract for if he doesn't get it. BTW... I think the Packers should be able to get 13 wins in 2024. Love needs to get much better with his accuracy on the deep balls. Receivers are always needing to stop to catch them. If J. Love plays hardball, we still have Pratt and Clifford waiting to show their stuff.
Now I understand why Brian said that he was going to draft a quarterback every year. He can't afford to keep paying them without jeopardizing the structure of the team's strengths
You don’t pay a player for what they’ve done you pay them pay them for what they will do for you anybody who watches football regardless of who you root for can tell how good he is
So what if GB had traded AR a year earlier and JLove now had two full seasons under his belt and finished the 2023 just as he did. Everyone of you would be saying pay the man now. It was not his fault that GB did not move on from AR earlier and give him more snaps before this contract extension was staring them in the face. They sat him for 3 years and when they finally gave him the reigns he progressed throughout the year into an elite QB we all wanted and expected. Other contemporary QBs have a larger sample size but their production is no better than what JLove did and they are getting their payday. So this whole argument about his small sample size means he shouldn’t get a big payday now is weak. JLove and his agent have the leverage on the Packers in this. Gutey knew that this scenario was possible. Give the guy only 1 year of snaps before the last year of his contract and he rises to the occasion and now you can’t risk him hitting the open market next year. They should have closed the deal in May if they wanted to save money.
His first contract should not re set the market at all, that is an awful take. Just because another QB got X amount of money does not automatically mean that everyone now deserves more. Love played one season with only 8 games that were good. He should be paid off his performance and not what joe burrow or Trevor Lawrence are making.
Try telling his agent that..............and if you dick around too much, Love just decides to wait until next year and the price is only going to go up
If you think he is great, pay him now. If anything, you pay more now so you can pay less later. It's similar to a stock price. If Jordan has another great year, with the looming salary cap increasing his price will go up again. If the Packers want to win this negotiation, offer more now than what they are asking for. I would try for at least a 6 year deal. A 5 year deal would be ok but I want my advantage to really hit in two or three years. If we can save 5 or 6 million, that goes to the weapons we would like to keep. I would offer a 5 year extension worth 300 million. That's 320 million in total money over the next 6 years. I would make the signing bonus something crazy. Say 200 million. Cut down the guaranteed portion of the contract to provide insurance against an awful injury.
I couldn’t agree any better with Peter on a lot of things he really hit on with salaries that guys like Lawrence, Goff, and Burrow make, I think GB may wind up giving this man very close to $60 million cuz Love is a top 10 QB now and he well deserves that money, that Packers team last season shocked the whole league and we are definitely the team that can develop a qb and then manage to keep that guy for the next 10 plus seasons, they absolutely cooked this offseason too, to where they’ve got the well deserved SB hype talks cuz that team is LOADED offensively and defensively, it’s SB caliber built now.
@OGkush710 I would offer him around 40 million a year for 5 years So out of 17 games, he played well in 9 of them. So you are willing to give him the world.
It's NOT ABOUT WHAT HE HAS DONE!!!! ITS ABOUT WHAT HE WILL DO.... IN THE FUTURE. last year was a lets see what you are year..... HE SHOWED EVERYONE WHO HE IS...not to mention if the packers continue to wait it will be alot more then 60 mil.... on top of the fact that JLOVE IS BETTER THEN AND HAS GONE FURTHER THEN BOTH HERBERT AND LAWRENCE....HE HAS A CASE!!! AND HE WILL COME OUT VICTORIOUS
I think that the base AAV for Love should be low-$50Ms, but with incentives that make it high-$50Ms for yards, TDs, playoff/SB wins, etc. That way he has a market-rate base, with top-of-market incentives.
I have a problem with this!!.......,i understand the issue of scarcity....and the economic landscape of the NFL......however....COME ON!!!....Love has a little over twenty starts in his career (including the playoffs)! Whats more....he showed promise and legit top 12 QB potential here BUT.......he's not the second coming of Brady or Manning or Elway!.....nor may he ever be that! What if.....the bone headed interception he threw against the niners while under pressure and with the game on the line......ends up being his propensity for his entire career!? My point is .....there has to be atleast a semblence of common sense in these contracts from here on.... Or else...the going rate in a few years will too 100 million and a couple years beyond that...125 million....and on and on... Until QBS...price themselves completely out of all but the wealthiest markets!!!
The smartest thing Jordan love could do it take 10mil per year under the top deal but ask for it 100% guaranteed. He could buy a voice in the roster. Buy more weapons. Buy respect from fellow veterans who know he’s legit and wants to win like Brady! If he took a 3 year deal at 10mil under and they went all out to get him weapons it would make his stats better, make his win loss record better and most likely buy him a superbowl in the next 3 years if not 2! If Love blew up from becoming the best statistical QB because he had elite receivers he would make way more in endorsements! He would easily make that 30mill back in endorsements from the increased performance. He would have way more fans in the media for taking a cut and more fans in the street to buy merch! Then after the 3 years you decide again if you want to be the highest paid now that you have a ring or 2 or if you want to win 2-4 more rings and keep taking less. Brady doesn’t regret taking a pay cut a day in his life. Rodger’s wouldn’t be able to spend all his money if he tried. He wouldn’t even notice his accounts being 30 mill short right now. But Rodger’s would be the GOAT with 2 more rings.
I said that when he came in when favre was there and groomed the rookie Rodgers he doesn’t get enough credit until he leaves then they’ll be throwing bouquets.
Russ "Hard" Ball backed us into an unfortunate corner here. Just agree on a number before Trevor Lawrence resets the market. Love camp is absolutely right to be like, "Yo, Jordan is better..."
There is not a world where anyone is worth 60m from only a man. The last games of his 1st season looks good. Market b.s. is going to ruin teams overall unless everyone can get huge contracts
For now the packers WRs for at least 3 years are on their rookue contracts that will give packeslrs wiggle room. I think this will be a NFL problem and they may incorporate a Larry Bird type of cap rule giving QBs cap exemption
It's all about spacing, like he said there is 15 mill cap space this year, meaning if he gets a 60 mil contract it'll be spread out over the next 4-5 years he won't see big big money for at least 2-3 years giving the packers a nice window with all these rookies and maybe some cap space for signing a few players to boost the production of another super bowl
He's getting married dude, once QB's get married their career tanks bigly!! Give him $49 million just for worrying more about marriage than the team right now!!
Love's done nothing. he doesn't "deserve" anything. he's going to get crazy money simply because of market insanity. dumb luck. he's good. I hope he stays that way and Gute can keep the roster turned over with good, cheap, players 🤞🏻...no more market setting deals if they can possibly avoid it. no more cap issues, no more pushing money back. no more paralyzing contracts nailing their SB window shut like the last half dozen years.
You are 100% correct on Tom Clements, his work with Rodgers and now with Jordan Love speaks for itself. Good stuff Peter.
Yet Jordan works with "his QB coach" whenever not at Lambeau!! Why don't the Packers add "his guy" to the staff??
@@vegasj305not how they type of thing works, players are prohibited from being at the facility or having their personnel when "off"
But their trainers are allowed to talk to the team
I think Love's contract should be incentive based, since he only had 9 wins in 2023. Nine wins doesn't sound like a $60 million a yr contract to me. If Love gets 12 wins in 2024, which is very doable with the schedule they have, then give him the $60 million a yr. Maybe, the Packers can have two contracts written up... one for if he have 12+ wins, and the other contract for if he doesn't get it. BTW... I think the Packers should be able to get 13 wins in 2024. Love needs to get much better with his accuracy on the deep balls. Receivers are always needing to stop to catch them.
If J. Love plays hardball, we still have Pratt and Clifford waiting to show their stuff.
Now I understand why Brian said that he was going to draft a quarterback every year. He can't afford to keep paying them without jeopardizing the structure of the team's strengths
No accuracy issues and slow release
Its amazing how much money Jordan Love has made since mid-January without even throwing a pass
It's ridiculous
You don’t pay a player for what they’ve done you pay them pay them for what they will do for you anybody who watches football regardless of who you root for can tell how good he is
So what if GB had traded AR a year earlier and JLove now had two full seasons under his belt and finished the 2023 just as he did. Everyone of you would be saying pay the man now. It was not his fault that GB did not move on from AR earlier and give him more snaps before this contract extension was staring them in the face. They sat him for 3 years and when they finally gave him the reigns he progressed throughout the year into an elite QB we all wanted and expected. Other contemporary QBs have a larger sample size but their production is no better than what JLove did and they are getting their payday. So this whole argument about his small sample size means he shouldn’t get a big payday now is weak. JLove and his agent have the leverage on the Packers in this. Gutey knew that this scenario was possible. Give the guy only 1 year of snaps before the last year of his contract and he rises to the occasion and now you can’t risk him hitting the open market next year. They should have closed the deal in May if they wanted to save money.
The highest paid quarterbacks never win super bowls
except if they have a young roster behind him that don't need any new contracts like the packers do
Context matters
@@TheGreenZone4 Best do it in a year or two before the rookie contracts expire.
It's a team game????? Who knew!!
Cough Mahomes Cough 🤷♂️
His first contract should not re set the market at all, that is an awful take. Just because another QB got X amount of money does not automatically mean that everyone now deserves more. Love played one season with only 8 games that were good. He should be paid off his performance and not what joe burrow or Trevor Lawrence are making.
Try telling his agent that..............and if you dick around too much, Love just decides to wait until next year and the price is only going to go up
If you think he is great, pay him now. If anything, you pay more now so you can pay less later.
It's similar to a stock price. If Jordan has another great year, with the looming salary cap increasing his price will go up again. If the Packers want to win this negotiation, offer more now than what they are asking for. I would try for at least a 6 year deal. A 5 year deal would be ok but I want my advantage to really hit in two or three years. If we can save 5 or 6 million, that goes to the weapons we would like to keep.
I would offer a 5 year extension worth 300 million. That's 320 million in total money over the next 6 years. I would make the signing bonus something crazy. Say 200 million. Cut down the guaranteed portion of the contract to provide insurance against an awful injury.
he definitely had more than 8 good games try 10-12
Yeah it sucks but its reality.
He’s going to be one of the more elite QB pay him now before you have to pay him more in the future
I couldn’t agree any better with Peter on a lot of things he really hit on with salaries that guys like Lawrence, Goff, and Burrow make, I think GB may wind up giving this man very close to $60 million cuz Love is a top 10 QB now and he well deserves that money, that Packers team last season shocked the whole league and we are definitely the team that can develop a qb and then manage to keep that guy for the next 10 plus seasons, they absolutely cooked this offseason too, to where they’ve got the well deserved SB hype talks cuz that team is LOADED offensively and defensively, it’s SB caliber built now.
We all love Jordan Love. But he's not worth sixty million on only nine games
In 1 of those 9 games he thru 2 inteceptions
so what would you do? If you dont pay him he just gets more expensive later or he goes and gets paid else where and is a top 5 QB there. PAY THE MAN
@OGkush710
I would offer him around 40 million a year for 5 years
So out of 17 games, he played well in 9 of them. So you are willing to give him the world.
It's NOT ABOUT WHAT HE HAS DONE!!!! ITS ABOUT WHAT HE WILL DO.... IN THE FUTURE. last year was a lets see what you are year..... HE SHOWED EVERYONE WHO HE IS...not to mention if the packers continue to wait it will be alot more then 60 mil.... on top of the fact that JLOVE IS BETTER THEN AND HAS GONE FURTHER THEN BOTH HERBERT AND LAWRENCE....HE HAS A CASE!!! AND HE WILL COME OUT VICTORIOUS
@@crystaldye6495
My point exactly
those two guys got paid too much
Now the market is 50 plus
@@OGkush710 incentives
DC that everyone knew was horrible except MLF🤣🤣🤣
Well said Peter🎯
I think that the base AAV for Love should be low-$50Ms, but with incentives that make it high-$50Ms for yards, TDs, playoff/SB wins, etc. That way he has a market-rate base, with top-of-market incentives.
I have a problem with this!!.......,i understand the issue of scarcity....and the economic landscape of the NFL......however....COME ON!!!....Love has a little over twenty starts in his career (including the playoffs)!
Whats more....he showed promise and legit top 12 QB potential here BUT.......he's not the second coming of Brady or Manning or Elway!.....nor may he ever be that!
What if.....the bone headed interception he threw against the niners while under pressure and with the game on the line......ends up being his propensity for his entire career!?
My point is .....there has to be atleast a semblence of common sense in these contracts from here on....
Or else...the going rate in a few years will too 100 million and a couple years beyond that...125 million....and on and on...
Until QBS...price themselves completely out of all but the wealthiest markets!!!
Make that $70 million
While I think he is worth the big payout I'm concerned about how it will hit our salary cap over next 4 years
The smartest thing Jordan love could do it take 10mil per year under the top deal but ask for it 100% guaranteed. He could buy a voice in the roster. Buy more weapons. Buy respect from fellow veterans who know he’s legit and wants to win like Brady! If he took a 3 year deal at 10mil under and they went all out to get him weapons it would make his stats better, make his win loss record better and most likely buy him a superbowl in the next 3 years if not 2! If Love blew up from becoming the best statistical QB because he had elite receivers he would make way more in endorsements! He would easily make that 30mill back in endorsements from the increased performance. He would have way more fans in the media for taking a cut and more fans in the street to buy merch! Then after the 3 years you decide again if you want to be the highest paid now that you have a ring or 2 or if you want to win 2-4 more rings and keep taking less. Brady doesn’t regret taking a pay cut a day in his life. Rodger’s wouldn’t be able to spend all his money if he tried. He wouldn’t even notice his accounts being 30 mill short right now. But Rodger’s would be the GOAT with 2 more rings.
Todd McVay said Love had the most upside of any qb in that class
I said that when he came in when favre was there and groomed the rookie Rodgers he doesn’t get enough credit until he leaves then they’ll be throwing bouquets.
Russ "Hard" Ball backed us into an unfortunate corner here. Just agree on a number before Trevor Lawrence resets the market. Love camp is absolutely right to be like, "Yo, Jordan is better..."
Kyle Murray had his best year under Clements
The market has already exploded. When they gave those 2 guys too much money, for their talent
i would let him play one more year so he can really develop hes performance like he started doing 2th half las season
Why is your video glitching?
ZERO sense if he gets 60mil a year
Please do not give Jordan Love $60 million dollars. It'll cripple the team's salary cap just like when Rodgers was with the Packers
I agree. What's Love going to do if he is offered a mere $50 million? Go to another team and start over? I don't see it.
There is not a world where anyone is worth 60m from only a man. The last games of his 1st season looks good. Market b.s. is going to ruin teams overall unless everyone can get huge contracts
MIC 🎤 CHECK!!!!! GO PACK GO!!!!
How are we gona sign/resign players next year and so on if JL is gettin $60m a year
For now the packers WRs for at least 3 years are on their rookue contracts that will give packeslrs wiggle room. I think this will be a NFL problem and they may incorporate a Larry Bird type of cap rule giving QBs cap exemption
Other teams manage: I trust Russ Ball and Gutey to make it work
salary cap keeps going up so there will be room/money.
It's all about spacing, like he said there is 15 mill cap space this year, meaning if he gets a 60 mil contract it'll be spread out over the next 4-5 years he won't see big big money for at least 2-3 years giving the packers a nice window with all these rookies and maybe some cap space for signing a few players to boost the production of another super bowl
He did the same with Kyler Murray
Lawrence got 55; keep Love's contract at or below 55.
No, "and then." That's all i want!
In 5 or 6 years prolly be 100,0000 $ qbs.
And Love might never get accuracy on his long passes, and we can't win Super Bowls without accurate long passes.
He's getting married dude, once QB's get married their career tanks bigly!! Give him $49 million just for worrying more about marriage than the team right now!!
Shut up look at Phillp Rivers He was married and played great
And she is a volleyball player
@@travisbaker2001 When he was 40 years old??
@@travisbaker2001 A wife is a wife unless you are into dogs!!
Go Lions
Love's done nothing. he doesn't "deserve" anything. he's going to get crazy money simply because of market insanity. dumb luck. he's good. I hope he stays that way and Gute can keep the roster turned over with good, cheap, players 🤞🏻...no more market setting deals if they can possibly avoid it. no more cap issues, no more pushing money back. no more paralyzing contracts nailing their SB window shut like the last half dozen years.
We need love take a Brady Contract Brady was never highest paid that's why he won 7 rings
Rodgers lives rent free in this guys head 😂😂😂
@Whalers860 I had a Topps 84-85 card of a Whaler. One of the best team names out there, and it's a bummer they're not around anymore.
@@ShiloStigen huh?
@Whalers860 Sorry, I was trying to make a joke, and I apologize if it didn't work. Didn't mean anything personal. I think your Whalers logo is cool.
@@ShiloStigen oh no problem I was just confused lol thank you yea whalers we’re great
@Whalers860 Thanks, and Whew! I would've hated it if my joke went sideways and offended you. Have a great week!
I heard popping of the mic to start the show. Be better do better. 2/10 show
Those 2 guys are not worth that much money. They were just with a team that had no choice
Get off this page if you don't think Jordan Love Deserves it
@@travisbaker2001
OK
@@travisbaker2001 The Lions want you to give him $70 million