MY DAILY BREWER: Kono Dripper and My Two Recipes
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- Most days, I pull the Kono Dripper out for my cup of coffee. It's easy, forgiving, and consistent. Try these recipes out! If you don't have a Kono, try really blasting water into a small V60 to get the paper as suctioned to the walls (inside the crevices) as possible! With enough force, you can almost replicate this!
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For the below recipes:
12g coffee to 200g water
Medium-Fine Grind benchmark-- lighter coffees, go finer. darker coffees, go coarser.
Water Temperature should be decided based on roast development and density. Lighter and/or more dense coffees, higher temp. Darker and/or less dense, go cooler.
RECIPE #1:
30g, swirl, wait until 1 min
30g, swirl, wait until 2 min
70g, gentle swirl, wait until 2min45sec
70g, gentle swirl
RECIPE #2
40g, swirl, wait until 2 min
100g, gentle swirl, wait until 2min45sec
60g, gentle swirl
0:00- Introduction
0:40- Design Analysis
4:15- 2 Recipes Overview
9:26- Recipe 1
14:22- Recipe 2
18:50- Conclusion
Link for Gagne's book referenced- www.scottrao.com/products/phy...
Find him on IG - / jgagneastrocoffee
FOR PEOPLE IN NORTH AMERICA:
You can order the Kono through Rogue Wave Coffee in Canada. I bought mine from there and do not get any financial incentive for saying this. I genuinely don't know another distributor on the continent.
Equipment Used:
Baratza Vario with steel burrs
Fellow EKG Kettle
Kono Meimon Dripper
Hario Untabbed Paper Filters
Cafec Medium Roast Paper Filters
Coffee was a Washed Yunnan from Rabbit Hole I got from a subscription 
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Hey Lance, if you're willing to teach us some more latte art wisdom, I'd be interested in knowing how to steam and pour for smaller drinks and cups, like a cortado.
Hey! Steaming for that is the same as steaming for anything else! And pouring, as well. Just need to work on control of flow rate
Thanks for the content. I think it would have been helpful to have a zoom in on the grind size with a mm ruler for reference.
I choose not to do that because I find that unhelpful. What might look like majority grind size on my grinder will likely not help the majority of viewers as their grinders will undoubtedly have a different particle distribution.
Thanks for watching!
Always fun and funny, really good stuff, rock and roll
What a weekend treat! Kono is just waiting to get unboxed! So stoked to try your recipes! Thanks much Sir Lance! 🙌
Heck yes! Stoked for you. Let me know your thoughts!
Discovered your channel two weeks ago. Watched most vids by now. You’re now my new favourite coffee RUclipsr! Keep it up! 👌🏼
incredible! Thank you so much! That means a lot
With every new videos of yours, you just reinforce the fact that you've become one of my favourite person XD
🥺🥺 thank you! Im just excited you enjoy the videos 🤗
Tried the first recipe and man... I made the best cup of coffee I've ever made! (it was a single origin from Burundi, with notes of red currant, raisin, and sugar cane). Thank you!
Incredible! So stoked you enjoy it!
After a couple of years using V60, I got my hands on a Kono, and I made a funny discovery. I expected, that because of the lower bypass and longer brewtime, I have to grind significantly courser in order not to overextract. But in my experience, I can grind even finer than with V60 and have a suprisingly nice cup of coffee. My theory is that in case of the V60, if you use too fine grounds, you increases the amount of bypass because of the higher resistence of the coffee bed, which causes the grounds on the edges to overextract, and the middle to underextract. With the Kono, it extracts the coffee more evenly, because the water cannot bypass the coffee bed, so even if you overextract a little bit, it will taste good.
Lance! Thank you for sharing about the Kōno! I love it!
I got mine a while back after watching your video.
I'm finding amazing brews with a single pour method.
I just ground some Light medium roasted Costa Rican Tarrazu red honey processed coffee at a setting just courser than espresso with a 1Zpresso Q2. Using a cafec Abaca brown filter paper. Using water just off boil. Made a single pour at a fairly fast pour rate (similar to the pour on Hario's Mügen V60 video). Total brew time was just about 1 minute. (Kudos to 1Zpresso)
Tastewise, It does seem on the very high side of extraction. Highly floral, good sweetness. Keeping with the same variables except grind size... Slightly more course grind introduces even more sweetness and acidity. And more course than that, more acidity, no/low florals, as you might expect.
I got a very high extraction tasty brew!
I've had such great results with this dripper just about every different way I've brewed with it. It works great with light through dark roasts. Single, double, triple pours.
The only way I've brewed a bad cup with the Kōno is the 1st few times I couldn't seem to get the paper filter to stick to the sides of the dripper. Now pressing the filter deeper in and using the sink tap to wet it... no problems. Thanks for that high flow paper wetting tip!
Great video, my broski! Thanks again
Just tried the first recipe, and man, maybe the sweetest cup I’ve ever brewed. I’ve been trying to tame the acidity of a new natural processed Ethiopian that I’m trying and this definitely did the trick
It's so amazing how changing just a few variables can make such a huge difference in flavor. There's no end to the exploration of coffee brewing (and roasting).
This is nice. I still do v60 sometimes when I'm not busy just to experiment but mainly using a clever dripper now to avoid the trouble of all the variables from pour-overs.
Love the Hoffmann spin!
Love all your presentations. So informative, clear, a pleasure to watch & learn 👏
Thank you so much! Means a lot, friend.
This video convinced me to purchase a kono dripper and I’m very glad I did. I have been using the flair espresso maker almost daily but this is a good way to change things up. Currently enjoying a Costa Rican Tarrazu coffee made with the second recipe. Thanks Lance!
Heck yeah! Stoked you love it. Such a good brewer!
Perfect timing, I got a Kono for my bday a few days ago. 😊
Yes! Incredible gift that will keep giving lol
@@LanceHedrick brews have been tasty, thanks for informing us of such a lovely brewer.
Absolutely! So stoked you got one. They're the best
I've been making this using my Gevi 4in1. Consistently fantastic results. Thanks @Lance
Tried the first recipe with Roguewaves Colombia decaf this evening! Delicious! Juicy with an awesome texture and oh so sweet. Only change was I tightened the ratio to 1:16 and used a 22 on a Comandante MK4. Great work.
I just got the Kono, because of this video. And must say, it is an amazing brewer and recipe from you! I tried it with 2 ethiopian light roasts, had a longer draw down with the hario untabbed of around 8 to 9 minutes (ground on the 1zpresso q2 heptagonal at a 15) so still need to adjust the parameters a bit. Nonetheless it was really delicious and just a tad of bitter notes which will probably disappear on further dialing in.
The swirl?? That’s Jerry Seinfeld’s move!! You and David Puddy stole his move.
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Loved it again mate, bangin vid🙌
Thank you! The support means everything
First RUclips post ever but had to. Loving the content Lance. I picked up a Kono after watching this video and it is making some of the best, juiciest, sweetest cups I’ve made. I’m enjoying a washed Kenyan right now and it’s crazy. I’m finding I’m able to grind much finer with my Weber EG1 with low fines burrs without channeling/stalling. Looking forward to an upcoming review of the EG1.
Thank you! And working on it. With end game type grinders, I tend to take 3 months minimum to gather enough feeling and data on the grinder
I don’t have a Kono so I tried this with a V60 and as another commenter already mentioned it gave me an extremely juicy cup. I dosed up a little bit more (15/250) and followed the recipe from there. It was delicious. I used the Ethiopia Beriti from Onyx which I’ve been enjoying a ton, but this provided such a different texture in the cup. Absolutely worth a try if anyone else out there wants to give this a go but doesn’t have a Kono. Thanks, Lance!
Edit: I followed the 1st recipe.
Awesome! Thanks for trying it. And the beriti is a really nice natural. Glad you snagged a box!
This is such a great video. Thank you as always!,
Thank you so much for the kind words! Stoked you enjoyed it
Lance,
Thanks for the recipes. I’m an espresso lover and just starting to get into pour overs. I have an Organic Peruvian coffee that I just don’t love as espresso. I tried your pour over recipe to enhance sweetness and extraction. It was good, but when I tried your 2nd recipe to enhance acidity, this coffee really popped - super delicious! I enjoy learning strategies to tweak the cup to enhance different elements.
Also, I’d love to hear your thoughts on how long to rest a coffee after roasting. I’ve been roasting (usually Full City to Full City+), but I start drinking them after a day or two. I notice I got a LOT of bloom when making this as a pour over. The coffee was roasted about 4 days ago. Should I be resting longer?
Crazy to think it has been around so long. I think i read it was made in the 70's. Looking forward to a no bypass brewer video.
It was made in the 20s from what I've read! Predates most Brewers! Crazy. They nailed it long ago haha
Hey Lance, I've had my large Kono for a few weeks and I'm getting very tasty results but I often get clogging (6+ min brews) which I think is from the extra agitation of the high pour for turbulent flow. I'm using 23g to 390 water. I do use 3 pours after the 2 bloom pours. Would you suggest changing the pour style to be less turbulent or maybe I should cut back to 2 pours? Another option would be grinding coarser but that doesn't eliminate fines. Thoughts?
I would be less aggressive on swirling! That's more than likely what is causing the clogging, not turbulence. But, you could also try pouring with more laminar flows near the end!
Reading rainbow song for the win!!! Yes yes yes! You are now officially my favorite coffee expert!!!!
Lance! Thank you for the fantastic video. I am thinking about purchasing a Kono brewer based on this. What size brewer would you recommend if I alternate between brewing for one person and two people, and do you have a recipe for a 400 or 500 ml batch?
Hey Lance, what's the most grams of coffee you would/could/suggest brewing with the Kono?
Super fun and informative, nicely done, thank you
Fantastic! Really appreciate you taking the time to comment. Thanks!
@@LanceHedrick your welcome sir
Just came across your channel tonight and absolutely love it! Looking forward to more. How many clicks would this grind size be on a C40 as a starting point?
Maybe 28
Love your videos Lance!! Learning so much!! Just wondering what you think about the Clever Coffee cone dripper - sort of a cross between French press and pour over?
Clever is great! Really forgiving. Makes solid cups.
Heck yes scrubs! Great episode too. “Guuuuy love!!”
Everything comes down to poo, from the top of your head to the sole of your shoe, we can figure out what's wrong with you by looking at your poo
I've got a couple of questions regarding this recipe and how it's possible to get even better results with your V60 recipe applying some advices you gave in this video.
1st the blooming water temp should be at boiling point or not? Even with darker roasts?
2nd would it be better using a 2 min blooming and keeping the rest of the recipe the same?
3rd laminar vs turbulent flow, which one to choose when using that V60 recipe? It looks like you used a laminar flow there.
4th would you keep the little swirls just behind the center when using a gooseneck kettle in the V60 recipe?
5th any chance on making an improved V60 recipe video considering these coffee geek information you stated on the Kono video?
Thanks!
Just tested the recipe with the v60-02 (I don't have a Kono) and scaled up to 20g-340g. Well, that was (by a lot) the sweetest and juiciest extraction I had from this coffee I'm drinking so far. Pretty impressive. The 2 minutes bloom seems like the main difference here. Looking forward to test it with others coffee. Thanks, Lance.
Awesome! And yes. The 2 min bloom will improve any pourover extraction. Try it out!
I’m gonna try the two minute bloom with my last serving of gesha 🤞
@@olam1234 Update?
Haha yes! Would love an update!
Does the 2 min bloom applies to 3 cups chemex as well?
1. Hi Lance, any guide on the flow rate? 6-7 g/s maybe?
2. Do you still recommend the turbulent flow as in the ultimate pourover method you use laminar?
3. Do I get this right: with acidic coffee use the 1st method and with low acid coffee use the 2nd one?
Wonderful recipe
Thank you! Glad you enjoy it
Hi Lance, any reason why you use size 2 and cut it? I bought the kono dripper and was able to find cafec medium in size 1 that perfectly fit to it.
Would the same ratios of bloom/pours transfer into 300-400ml brews (for example your first recipe of 15% + 15% bloom, 35% + 35% pours)? Or, at what point would you typically add one more pour? Thanks!
Yes! It would! I wouldn't add another pour unless you wanted to increase agitation and contact time
Hi Lance this one is cool. A 2min bloom that is long. Curious to test this. I have a regular kettle. I cannot hold temp that long. So I would have to reheat it on full power again after the first bloom. But you drop temp a bit on the third pour right? I may let it go by then or else I would do a double boil and have constant high temperature. Or is there an other thing use people with a standard (non temp control) goose neck can do?
There is an important study coming up to prove this saturation point for LRR. And I would reheat to fill for second bloom then let temp go down naturally for rest
Which one to get, the md (normal version) or the mdk (extra reduced bypass)? Thank you so much🙏
Hey, would you use your method with decent entry-level grinders like an Encore or Timemore C2? Or would the not super-consistent grind they do (compared to the next levels of grinders) not work well?
It'll work! Might want to be a little gentler with agitation using the encore but the timemore should be fine
@@LanceHedrick What Grind setting would you suggest for encore or virtuoso?
I have not used a virtuoso in a couple of years. It used to be my home grinder. I am not sure what I would recommend but I'm thinking it would be somewhere in the 15 to 20 range?
I want to make you a question? Can I use Kono #4 for any of the recipes? Or could you suggest one that I could use for the Kono #4?
there are three kinds! the ridges are shorter on some. which one are you using and recommend? Kono - MDK-21 (shortest ridges), Kono - MD-21, Kono - Meimon MDN-21
Going to buy and try the Kono now 😁
Would you say the Kono is also suitable for the single pour technique? It looks like the Hario Mugen (also with hardly any ribs) which is said to be the best dripper for single pours.
Lance, with the times between pours being so long, do you set the EKG kettle to re-heat the water between pours?
Thanks.
Yup! I even reset the temperature in the video and discuss that briefly.
@@LanceHedrick thanks! Sorry, I missed that.
All good! I talk a lot haha
Hei Lance, how does it compare to hario mugen? I think there will be less bypass on mugen. Is less bypass always better?
Are you using the sette 30 or used to? I’m looking at getting a grinder and I’m in between the 30 and 270. Would like to save the money on the 30 if it’s good for espresso. Thanks!
Yeah! The 270 is incredible. I'd recommend that, for sure!
Hey Lance, is the Kono still your daily driver? I’m looking to get into V60 style of pour over, you still prefer the Kono?
Given his thoughts in his Next Level VS. Hario Switch video, I think he would prefer the Kono.
Lance, love your videos.
I have a V60-03 size so I can make enough coffee for my wife and I. I usually use around 40g-50g of coffee in my brews depending on how much coffee we want for that day. I really don’t see any recipes for the V60-03 size. Do you have an recommendations for this size? Thank you!
Bought one because of this video (Sadly, only the pink one was available. My girlfriend loves it though) and the I didn't expect the difference to my V60 to be this huge.
Pretty much same recipe (4:6) 20g/300ml and just now I brewed 12g/200ml. Slightly weaker but clearer, I think? I'm not good at coffee speak 😄
Gonna go a bit finer (currently 3.0 on a M47 Classic) and and experiment more but I'm flabbergasted how much the dripper does for taste. Might buy a aeropress as well now and explore more.
Your coffee speak was perfect! Yes. A wider ratio would lower the strength (tds) but increase clarity.
And glad you're enjoying it! Pink is my color of choice for the Kono hahaha
Your trick for wetting the paper with a big pour of water helps with the V60 too. With a normal slow pour from the kettle to wet it, sometimes it doesn't stick evenly down in the bottom half where most of the brewing goes on, which I think probably hurts extraction and consistency.
Another very informative and detailed explanation. Thanks, Lance! I have my Konos (the one where you can boil it all day and still be crackless) and tried brewing with the first method. I had a TBT of 5mins. It was really tasty but it also have bitter dominating flavors. I try to grind as much as I can because as you said before and as I've read with Gagne's blog posts that we are wasting coffee if we grind coarse.
If I get a bitter cup, what are the parameters I need to tweak? Should I try to grind a little coarser?
Try swirling less aggressively is the number one piece of advice.
Second is to use a lower dose. That specific version has really low ribs, which means the more coffee, the more it stalls.
Last, I'd consider lower water temp
Thanks for the answer @Lance! Lowering the dose means just less coffee with the same water, right?
Will, in this case I mean literally less coffee in the brewer so the depth of the bed is less. Can be same ratio if you'd like
@@LanceHedrick Ahhhh. Can be same ratio but lower dose. Got it!! Though my dose is 12g. I'll try 10g then!
Yeah. I do 10g on the clear one with high heat ability. The ribs are so so low that 12g sits well above them, causing some flow issues
Lovin' the vids and info. And love the idea of brewing smaller cups and having different coffees - or just not letting things get cold... I usually have at least 1/2 my cup too cold before I get to it. BUT I usually make coffee for my wife as well. If I were to brew a "full" batch with the Kono so I can split the cup with my wife, would you just double all coffee/water amounts and keep the timing and grind the sale, or should I adjust otherwise? [Grinding on K-plus with light-to-med roasts, usually ~1-2wks off roast]
You can try doubling. For sure. But I'd probably, after the double bloom, take the rest of the brew water and divide by three pours instead of two.
Hi! Fantastic video. Just ordered mine following watching your video!
Do you could give some hint on the clicks on the Comandante? Would 20 be a good starting point?
Yes! 20 would be OK though I'd play closer to 18!
@@LanceHedrick Thank you very much for your fast answer! Just recently stumbled upon your channel and it has quickly become my favorite third wave coffee channel on RUclips.
Oh wow! That means so much! Thank you, friend
Would the kono work with even smaller brews (100ml) as well? And would you be looking for the same brew times 4-4,5 minutes, or less?
Yes! Absolutely can. Just know once below 10g, there will be bypass.
Lance… can you do a grinder setting overview? Breville smartgriinder Pro is amazing but dialing in for aeropress/v60/espresso is challenging. Love to know what you use for that grinder, plus all your others. Always would be good to see what you have as a starting point on that grinder for v60.
Lance, great videos…!
Do you have a video on how do use the Breville smart grinder Pro for different coffees, such as espresso shots, poor overs, drip coffee, etc.
Noticed that you had a SGP in the background and also see the Niche grinder in your vids.
Hey! I don't currently have plans to make a SGP centric video, but I'll consider it!
Thanks for all this amazing content! Question: If ribs are leading to a lot of bypass, why are they there at the first place? Would it not be better to have no ribs at all?
I'd there was complete suction, the drain time would be forever haha! The room for escape would be tiny real estate. That, plus the purpose of a conical device, imo, is that stratified extraction. You can enhance different parts of the coffee. For a no bypass solution, I'd recommend the tricolate. I'll do a video soon!
If you want to mess around with a brewer with practically less ribs (technically there are some but I doubt they do anything) there's always the hario mugen
Awesome video!! As I’ve gotten deeper into my pour over journey, ive seen how the Kono seems to be such a consistent dripper. What, if any, tweaks would you consider when brewing naturally processed coffee vs washed?
Also, any suggestions for a starting grind size for lightly roasted coffees?
Natural will extract more readily, so maybe lesser temp or coarser grind.
@Lance Hedrick Thank you for this awesome brew method I really love it! Which roast level do you prefer for it?
I always prefer lighter roasts, bug it can be adapted to any roast level with grind size and water temp
I see you would only go up to 15g of coffee for the smaller kono. I really like 18g coffee and 300ml water. I emailed Rogue Wave to see if 18g coffee would go above the ribs for the larger kono. They said 18 grams sits even with the top of the ribs, so it does not go above them. So which size should I get?
If doing 18, I would recommend the larger one, for sure
Hi Lance, love the video. Two questions. The first one: Do we just scale down the amount of water as we scale down the weight of grounds?.
The second one: Should we use the same grind size as in your V60 method?
First is correct. Second is finer than that. Unless using darker roasts
@@LanceHedrick Thanks a lot! I just tried the first method using a washed Kenyan coffee using V60 01, ground at 22 clicks for thr C40.
It's really sweet, sweeter than any cups of the same coffee I've had before. Really looking forward to trying with a Kono dripper
once I get mine
Incredible! Try going a couple clicks finer 😉
And what Kenya?! I'm always on the hunt for a really well roasted Kenya
@@LanceHedrick it's the Tegu from Squaremile. I think it's already out of stock cuz they have another new Kenya out. I liked their last Kenya more though. I found that one gave me more sweetness than the Tegu.
Oh gotcha! Yeah they tend to flirt with going a bit too developed for me. Coffee collectif and Tim Wendelboe have some really nice ones right now!
Great, now I have to buy a Kono! ;) Great vid, Lance. Thanks! Can you share a bit about the grind size? Is it similar to a v60? Or would you recommend to go finer/coarser than that?
Just a smidge finer than v60! For these small doses, that is.
@@LanceHedrick thanks man! Keep up the good work :)
Hey Lance. I’m intrigued in the Kono after watching your video. Do you have any insight on where to pick one up?
Rogue Wave coffee! If you're in North America. They ship free for orders over $50. Tell them lance sent ya haha!
Hey Lance! Great video as always. Do you find that the Stagg EKG kettle works best for turbulent flow? Your other brewista allows for faster flow rate and I assume higher pouring height before the water breaks. Any thoughts? Thanks! 👌 Just got a kono 2 days before this video haha. PERFECT TIMING!
I do like the Stagg 's flow. I find for my pour style, and the flow rate I like to employ, it's ergonomics match well. Trying to hit certain speeds and angles asking with turbulence. It serves me better than the brewista as I've been learning into non laminar
@@LanceHedrick good to know, I was going for a brewista but I preferred the smaller base of the Stagg.
For sure! And the knob is far and away better than the touch buttons on the brewista. So annoying.
With this double-bloom technique in Kono, do you still get lower EY compared to normal stagg x brew?
Depends on what you mean by normal! The way I brew the Stagg x, I get higher ey with it consistently. Hard to compete with a flat bottom brewer when you suction a trapezoid filter in like I do with a double walled high thermal retention brewer
Great video, as always. So, this is an old school hario mugen, or they cant be compared?
I haven't tried one yet! They always seem to be sold out
Ok,.. I am a scrubs fan, but the way you knew the season and episode of "My Musical" blew my mind.. ok back to the coffee..
I sadly know scrubs way too well🤣🤣
Watched almost nothing else from 2006 to 2012 or so
Are you using the ceramic burrs in the Vario Lance? Or did you switch to another set?
54mm ditting steel burrs
Keep eyes peeled for next week's video
Would the Hario 02 filter papers fit into the larger Kono dripper (4-person version) without having to cut it?
Yes! No need to cut. I do it because I hate how ugly it looks lol
Tried the first recipe on my 155 kalita and it was so good!
heck yeah ! that is awesome to hear
I can't really find the kono where I live, would sanding the grooves flat on a v60 be madness?
Where are you at? There is likely a distributor near
Lance - try the kono silky! quite comparable to the cafec light :)
Amazing video!
I have! It's a fun one, for sure. Thanks so much for watching!
Dang your vid's got me wanting more gear. If you could only get one, would you get a 4 cup Kono, Hario Switch, or a tricolate? I've got a v60, Kalita wave, and aero press. And need to brew 30g
Do you find that there’s a correlation between say, washed process or natural process, that determines which recipe you use?
I hope you make a video about the clever dripper, it seems like people have forgotten about it. Wondering whats your opinion on it
It's a great dripper! Immersion focused, but versatile!
What would be your recommendation on grind setting on an ode with 1.1 burrs? Light roasts like an Ethiopian?
Great video Lance! Do you have the 2 or 4 person Kono?
2 person Kono! I do just small doses
I went ahead and grabbed a kono but I am having a hard time determining what temperature and grind size to use on my fellow ode for a lightly roasted washed Etheopian coffee.
Lance, thanks for the video! Where can we find those sweet coffee tumblers you use?
Magnolia mountain! There may be a Collab coming soon, so hold tight 😁
Would you recommend these recipes to robusta & liberica coffee?
Not a fan of using plastic to brew coffee but that’s just my opinion. Do these come in ceramic or stainless?
Curious if you know about the new v60 Mugen dripper, and how it might compare with the kono dripper, as it appears to have minimal bypass
Yeah! It stalls flow a bit more than this but it is quite similar! Might need coarser grounds to emulate times
@@LanceHedrick Seems like a good alternative then. The kono is so hard to come by at a reasonable price in the UK, and I'm a bit weary of plastic drippers still
@lancehedrick ...what comandante clicks would you start at for American light roasts with either recipe? :) please and thank you
Hi Lance would these recipes work for the staff X?
Hi, What's your usual grind size range on the fellow Ode for both recipes? Thanks
The current ode can't quite go fine enough, unless you put in the SSP burrs!
@Lance Hedrick in Gagne's blog post he says "You can achieve this by pouring just a bit lower than the point where you can hear a splattering sound as the stream enters the slurry."
This is not what you said in a previous comment discussion here and the video.
Was there any difference between Gagne's book and his blog post concerning the pour height "at the splattering sound" or "just above the splattering sound". Do I have to hear the splattering sound or not?
Liked, subscribed and hit the bell because of the Scrubs reference
Another brewer to add to the line up!
If you didn’t cut the filters, wouldn’t they just come up higher? Or does it cause other issues?
Yeah, they'd just be higher. I just think it looks ugly haha!
@@LanceHedrick there’s always something to be said about aesthetic. There wouldn’t be whole section of philosophy about aesthetic if it wasn’t important 😂
Agreed! Partial to Adorno, personally 😍
Yoooo Lance!!! Our Kono just arrived, and we are stoked! Question (I've asked a similar one on your V60 video): what's the largest dose that you would brew on the Kono. My wife and I like to share a cup, and while I'm never against doing two brews, sometimes there isn't the time. I'm thinking of doubling your dose for starters, but would appreciate your opinion. Thanks man!
If you have the larger 4 cup Kono you can double dose. Otherwise, I think Lance said he'd max out at 15g for the small Kono
Hi Lance, what to change or improve if my TBT is 6 mins or more?
Grind coarser?
I have a timemore crystal eye and it also has a smooth upper part for full 360 contact. Will try these recipes tomorrow!
Heck yeah! Haven't tried that brewer. Let me know how it goes!
@@LanceHedrick loved it! Used it with a Thailand light/medium roast. Very balanced and sweet, taking back the acidity a bit. But the killer tip was the quick pour to make the filter stick to the sides easy.
Heck yeah! Stoked you enjoyed it. Did you try recipe one or two? Sounds like two would be better for ya
@@LanceHedrick tried recipe 1. Will try 2 when I’m back from vacation, I only brought my cafelat robot. What will make recipe 2 fit better?
Recipe two will help accentuate acidity! Lessening by one pour negates some agitation and helps pop up the acidity. The big second pour allows sweetness to not get lost in the lesser extraction. (This is my speculation based on my observations)
I am so grateful for you taking the time to share 😊
As high up away from the dripper, you hold the kettle is it really necessary to cut the filter?
Also, Kinto makes a filter in the size you cut that one to 😊
Could you make a video on the stagg X or XF. Or elaborate on what you do with them. I’ve got the XF and really like it. I do large pours usually. 35g coffee then 80g bloom. Then 120g first pour. Then 200g pours to 600 total.
Love the energy
Yeah! It's my other favorite brewer. Will definitely do a video
About to order a Kono but I'm curious, is your "goto" the coloured Meimon ones or the clear MDK-21? It states the MDK-21 has shorter ridges and drips slower. Thanks!
I just managed to order the 4 cup version and I didn't even realize there was a difference between Konos, but it looks like you're right. Shorter ridges would be less bypass so I hope I didn't make a bad choice since I think mine is the meimon.
@@jamesbrightman3997 I prefer larger brews than the ~200ml in the video, so maybe the higher ridges might be okay if the grounds cover it, Small difference either way I'm sure!
Can you scale this to 16g with the same pour structure?
how many clicks of the comandante would you suggest to start with this filter?
Hey Lance, great video as usual! Have you heard of or seen the new Hario Mugen dripper? It doesn't have any ribs on the inside. Would love to see you test it out.
Yes! They're always sold out here. Hoping to get one soon
Thoughts on the kono meimon vs konos when brewing the same recipe and same dose of 12g?
So, the konos will drain slightly slower. I'd probably go just slightly coarser
Great video! What decanter are you using?
It is a st Anthony decanter!
Hey Lance, just wanted to ask what the Comandante grind size would be for recipe 2?
Hey! Around 18-20 depending on coffee!
@@LanceHedrick oh wow! Thanks a lot, never would have guessed that. Ive been grinding closer to 30 clicks, will definitely try this tomorrow morning 😁👍