This was not a boring video. This was a very smart, educational video that spoke to positive decisions being made in an industry full of risks. You made a public video showing severe hazards and could possibly help save someone's life as they take a step back and think oh okay if he is walking away from this I definitely shouldn't attempt it. Good on ya Jacob, stay safe and keep climbing.
Man, that thing gave me the chills. Glad you handled that like you did. There are many far worse tree videos out here, trees are no joke. That's also one of the alluring thing about felling them. Live to fight another day! RIP Jed❤️
I've had jobs I chose to walk from, and probably will again down the road. I'm sure others here probably have as well. No shame in it whatsoever. Important to know what you're comfortable with and when something may be outside of your capabilities or is simply too dangerous for you to want to attempt. Appreciate you taking the time to share this.
It can be hard to say no... And even if the tree falls and hits a house. The house can always be replaced! There's only one of you Jacob! Better to be safe than sorry.
Thanks for not doing it. I just got my ccb and only have 3 years of experience climbing/falling and this video kinda opened my mind to the fact I don’t ever need to do a dangerous job and if I wanted I could probably only do trees that are 99% safe (it’s never 100% safe) for the rest of my career. I’m still eager for my next dead fir to top but this video made me realize how easy it is to walk away. I really appreciate you Jacob and you’re videos it’s taught me so much especially after Jed video. Honestly your videos have/will probably save someone’s life if not mine.
Hey Jake, this is not a boring video, this is an Absolutely needed video. Knowing when not to risk it. Shows that not every job is worth the risk. Great reference for others that has the same job as you. Thank you for being a genuine content creator & human being by posting this. This shows humility on you.
45 yr arborist here. I have installed a chain and binder in split trees in order to fell them. (My climbing days are over) Absolutely right about liability. Stay Safe!
It is harder to walk away from danger under peer pressure than buckling under the pressure and then get killed. Good call! And what a tree! Really something special. Cool to see that split moving.
Your comment reminds me of a tree I climbed early in my career. Probably should have told the boss no but didn't have the balls to. Though we got the job done, it wouldn't have taken more than one wind gust stronger than the others to have blown the tree over with me in it.
Yet another great video. Funnily enough the videos you aren’t sure about releasing are the ones I return to. I love your ramblings, I feel like you’re confiding in a buddy. Congratulations to you & your family on your baby news 🥳🇬🇧
One of the best videos you have made! Or at least, perhaps one of the most important to share! It's easy to share when stuff goes well, or badly. But sharing the "hard decisions" of NOT doing anything, those are likely even more important!
Jacob, Walking away was the best decision for sure. It has also given us a glimpse of how to process a situation that we could find ourselves in one day. Good job and and thanks for posting this video.
I could see that tree expanding while you were filming! You were absolutely right not to climb that tree!. Saftey first always! Great video Jacob on what not to do for any amount of money!
That is terrifying and insanely dangerous! Glad you walked away from that one! I do sort of wish you'd check back and see if it made it through that storm or not. I'm so curious! Very smart to walk away from that one.
I appreciate you making a video about walking away. Its something I think all of us small contract climbers struggle with. We all WANT to do the work but sometimes its better to just call in a crane and live to climb another day.
Not only contract climbers. Company climbers also need to be willing to tell their boss no if its too dangerous to do in the current conditions or with the current set up. Doing so takes more balls than I had early in my career.
There no harm in saying “no” to a job or any awkward or unsafe situation you can put yourself or anyone else in! Keep up the hard work you are doing great same as everyone! Stay strong stay safe much luv👍🏻👍🏻
Glad you walked from this one. I know that you know, how quickly things can go bad. This is a good lesson for all the people watching too, you've gotta know your limits with the equipment you have.
jake your a fool and not for walking away from this but for thinking that it makes a bad video. this video is an amazing one because it shows what to do if you are not confident in the saftey of a job or a site and shows that even expireinced profetionals like you can have setbacks or situations that they are not equipped to tackle. great video and good luck on the next job.
First day in school, they told me, if the gut feeling tells no, walk way. Life is much more valuable. Wifey, the kids, and the baby on the way will forever thank you. Hope the pregnancy is going well Jacob🙂
It's good that you know your comfort and safety levels, it ensures that you don't wind up in a situation that you get hurt or wind up causing damage to something. More people need to be like you in this respect, if your not properly equipped to do the job and don't feel safe walking away from it is the best thing for everyone involved.
You don't have to explain or make any excuses.. you went there you evaluated the situation look at it utilizing several different ways. And angles to get it on the ground. Don't know you but I am damn proud of you...
You are absolutely right by recommending someone who has the best equipment to handle the job and keeping yourself safe and out of harms way. Very smart thinking and you have to always remember that they will be very appreciative that you took rhe time to make sure it was safely done and that you were looking out for them also. Keep up the great content and thanks for sharing this with everyone who appreciates your work and challenges... Former tree Arborist Joe Ennis Jr of Joe Ennis and Son tree service of Pennsylvania now retired..
This video made me think of a few videos that have really stuck in my mind in the last few years. Reg Coates " danger tree's" and "dead tree traverse" as well as Climbing Arborist "climbing on a DMM XSRE". They're all pretty applicable to this situation.
As someone who is thinking about a career tree change, thank you for sharing an example of what should not be climbed, but not only that, but what to do if you just can't. Like with my lack of experience I would have said "yeah nah forget it" then walked away, you went further and probably helped save another small business (the landscaper) from getting themselves into a massive quagmire and still helped the customer by referring them to two known good companies that have their own crane.
It is in your every right as a professional & a person to make judgment calls based on logistics of whatever we encounter. This line of work is extremely dangerous as it is, no need to take on any of these kind of extraordinary risk like this when you don’t have the equipment! Good call!
You were absolutely right. I refused a completely hollow walnut a while ago. You have to know how to put your equivalents aside to promote safety. Good luck and take care of yourself :D
Circle of Death. This tree is the perfect example. I've heard people talk about the trunk splitting apart and crushing the climber in the circle of death, this is the first time i've seen a tree where that is my immediate thought. No way i'd touch that tree without some 3" ratchet straps holding it together, with one immediately below each trunk cut to prevent the trunk separating when the cut is made. One of the most important things in tree work is knowing your capabilities and being willing to walk away from something beyond them. Thanks for sharing with us.
Wow! Fascinating and terrifying footage. Totally the right call. No excuses necessary. Totally agree with your thought process and with all comments below. You did the right thing, no question.
Makes sense. Not the same but I work for a small cybersecurity company and my company has passed on work because it was too risky or complex for us. Referred them to a bigger fish. Sometimes the fish has passed small stuff back to us. Its part of the process
I'm getting into cyber as well. Do you have certs or did you just head-dive into all of the cyber work and then landed a cyber job? Also, what's the company called?
Better to let it fail and have the insurance handle it than to lose a life and family. Mad respect. Even if I had straps, chains, and a crane I most likely wouldn’t have done it in that wind.
good on you jacob... never feel embarrassed or shamed about backing out.. theres always an extra couple hours anyday to do it a different time,, theres only one you.
The crazy part is this tree has been like that for quite a while.The healing along the edge of the crack says at least a year to me. (It is possible the recent wind made the damage worse; but the crack is not fresh.)
Risk is the product of the worst possible outcome, multiplied by the chance of it happening. In this case, that is, respectively, a "catastrophic and uncontrolled collapse while there are people around", and "I'd be stunned if it doesn't..." Great decision, Jake. And an especially big 'well done' for suggesting Eastside. That was very gracious of you. You're a good guy, Jake, keep it up. 👍🪓🇦🇺
Enjoyed the video. That's quite a tree. Subject to fail at any time. You made the correct decision to pass on it. Maybe on calm day you could anchor in to adjacent tree and swing over and eliminate the top branches and see how it goes from there. Good luck.
Wise choice man. Within the first minute of watching that thing open and close my mind was set on that being a crane gig. Even if you were starving for work, there’s no sense in getting so caught up in the mentality of “I need to feed my family” that you put yourself in a position where you end up injured/crippled/dead and unable to provide for them for the long term. It’s an inherently unsafe job in an inherently unsafe industry. You can’t make the job safe and still accomplish anything. Risk assessment and mitigation is up to the individual, all you can really do is make the best choice you can with the evidence available to you and hope it all turns out okay. And there is no shame in ever telling a customer that “this is a crane job. Here’s a couple of companies with cranes who I know can do this job well”. I do it frequently, and despite people freaking out at the thought of a crane, when you explain that the savings in man hours they usually come around to the idea that a crane isn’t going to end up costing them any extra
Of course not in the wind, but did you consider using a few load binders? they're used to hold down very heavy loads so they would likely hold the tree together. Would you cut perpendicular to the crack? Of course it's never wrong to recommend someone better suited to the task.
But I don't blame you for walking away from it. And I would have walked away from it too. Until the winds died down? But I don't know what is in the distance. So I don't know how much room there was to let the limbs go out fast?
I have a tree that I was working just yesterday on my channel that looks just like this one. However I wouldn't have to climb it. You absolutely made the right call walking away from that
This is a video every young man and noobie with chainsaw should watch, too many guys with “I can cut that down additude“ instead of the “should I cut that down“ additude. I still consider my self a noobie and have been scared shitless a few times. It's a important thing to teach.
knowing when to bag it is key to long working life. In one of your vids you were talking chain for 16" bar/chain. I do 99% forest climbing, majority of work is topping for snag creation. I run husky's but found that the stihl chain 63PS 56E chain is best for doug fir. It has a wider kerf and is basically a round file chisel bit chain. It eats wood and with larger kerf makes it more wedge friendly.
We can dance 🕺 if we want too, we can leave you're unsafe trees behind, cause if your friends don't climb then their no friends of mine 🎶🎵. Great job reminding and teaching. Have a great weekend 😀 with the family. 🤘😎✌️
Textbook example of correct "Risk Management". I applaud Jake for his wisdom and courage to decline this gig. This tree is waaay beyond sketchy. I don't remember seeing a tree this wicked in my career (28 years USFS Wildland Fire). Boring context: In contrast partially burned trees are usually easy to figure out. Had we found a tree such as this along the fire line that needed to be dropped, we would have, most likely, flagged the area off, piled fuel around it and burned it down. Of course, this would take time and would likely need to be pushed forward to follow on crews- but the right thing to do.
Never regret the dangerous situations you walk away from. I learned that a long time ago
Man they come around every now and then @guiltyoftreeson. We'll done for walking away!
what happened?
Don't blame ya one bit, even without the crazy crack it's too windy to be that high. Stay safe Jacob. Walk away today, live to play another day.
Its not a boring video Jacob. Its a great lesson for people to really think about everything before cutting a tree down. Stay safe, always.
I really wanted to see him chain-wrap that split trunk.
Just scary to see it. Video not boring at all. Fully educational, shows the true danger. Saving lives, that's how I see it. 👍👍👍
@@billrobbins5874 Well said
As a new climber, it's valuable to see examples of trees that I should also walk away from. Thank you.
This was not a boring video. This was a very smart, educational video that spoke to positive decisions being made in an industry full of risks. You made a public video showing severe hazards and could possibly help save someone's life as they take a step back and think oh okay if he is walking away from this I definitely shouldn't attempt it. Good on ya Jacob, stay safe and keep climbing.
Man, that thing gave me the chills. Glad you handled that like you did. There are many far worse tree videos out here, trees are no joke. That's also one of the alluring thing about felling them.
Live to fight another day!
RIP Jed❤️
I've had jobs I chose to walk from, and probably will again down the road. I'm sure others here probably have as well. No shame in it whatsoever. Important to know what you're comfortable with and when something may be outside of your capabilities or is simply too dangerous for you to want to attempt. Appreciate you taking the time to share this.
It can be hard to say no... And even if the tree falls and hits a house. The house can always be replaced! There's only one of you Jacob! Better to be safe than sorry.
So true.
Thanks for not doing it. I just got my ccb and only have 3 years of experience climbing/falling and this video kinda opened my mind to the fact I don’t ever need to do a dangerous job and if I wanted I could probably only do trees that are 99% safe (it’s never 100% safe) for the rest of my career. I’m still eager for my next dead fir to top but this video made me realize how easy it is to walk away. I really appreciate you Jacob and you’re videos it’s taught me so much especially after Jed video. Honestly your videos have/will probably save someone’s life if not mine.
1000% agree
Hey Jake, this is not a boring video, this is an Absolutely needed video. Knowing when not to risk it. Shows that not every job is worth the risk. Great reference for others that has the same job as you. Thank you for being a genuine content creator & human being by posting this. This shows humility on you.
45 yr arborist here. I have installed a chain and binder in split trees in order to fell them. (My climbing days are over) Absolutely right about liability. Stay Safe!
It is harder to walk away from danger under peer pressure than buckling under the pressure and then get killed. Good call!
And what a tree! Really something special. Cool to see that split moving.
Your comment reminds me of a tree I climbed early in my career. Probably should have told the boss no but didn't have the balls to. Though we got the job done, it wouldn't have taken more than one wind gust stronger than the others to have blown the tree over with me in it.
As a small business owner myself, one of the hardest things I ever had to learn was when to say no and walk away. Great video jacob!
It wasn't boring at all!! I've never seen a tree pulsing like that!! It's always good to know when it's not safe to work on it!! All the bests!
Yet another great video.
Funnily enough the videos you aren’t sure about releasing are the ones I return to.
I love your ramblings, I feel like you’re confiding in a buddy.
Congratulations to you & your family on your baby news 🥳🇬🇧
One of the best videos you have made! Or at least, perhaps one of the most important to share!
It's easy to share when stuff goes well, or badly. But sharing the "hard decisions" of NOT doing anything, those are likely even more important!
Jacob,
Walking away was the best decision for sure. It has also given us a glimpse of how to process a situation that we could find ourselves in one day. Good job and and thanks for posting this video.
I could see that tree expanding while you were filming! You were absolutely right not to climb that tree!. Saftey first always! Great video Jacob on what not to do for any amount of money!
You grow wiser with age my friend. I often struggle to do the same, want to be the guy who fixes the problem.
Congrats on your maturity!
Well done showing this video,more important to show these days in work rather than the normal or tricky jobs.
Great video. It's so important to know when to walk away but it can be a hard thing to do. Thanks for showing how to do the hard stuff
Well said.
That is terrifying and insanely dangerous! Glad you walked away from that one! I do sort of wish you'd check back and see if it made it through that storm or not. I'm so curious! Very smart to walk away from that one.
Definitely curious to see if it survived the storm!!
Such a solid call on your part. This video could save a life just through the example you set.
I appreciate you making a video about walking away. Its something I think all of us small contract climbers struggle with. We all WANT to do the work but sometimes its better to just call in a crane and live to climb another day.
Not only contract climbers. Company climbers also need to be willing to tell their boss no if its too dangerous to do in the current conditions or with the current set up. Doing so takes more balls than I had early in my career.
Congrats to 500' subs😍
There no harm in saying “no” to a job or any awkward or unsafe situation you can put yourself or anyone else in! Keep up the hard work you are doing great same as everyone! Stay strong stay safe much luv👍🏻👍🏻
Not boring. Wise, externalized internal dialog ! It was worth every minute I watched it.
With the events of the past coming to mind, this was a very positive decision on your part
Glad you walked from this one. I know that you know, how quickly things can go bad. This is a good lesson for all the people watching too, you've gotta know your limits with the equipment you have.
Wow totally insane, way to play it safe and when to walk away
jake your a fool and not for walking away from this but for thinking that it makes a bad video. this video is an amazing one because it shows what to do if you are not confident in the saftey of a job or a site and shows that even expireinced profetionals like you can have setbacks or situations that they are not equipped to tackle. great video and good luck on the next job.
Safety over profit is the best tree video!!! Always!!! Have a great weekend in FL?!
First day in school, they told me, if the gut feeling tells no, walk way. Life is much more valuable. Wifey, the kids, and the baby on the way will forever thank you. Hope the pregnancy is going well Jacob🙂
You made a great decision your life is worth on how you evaluate it And like you said it's too dangerous
Fireman 🔥🔥🔥
Made the right call. Safety is always first.
This video was as instructive as a any tree cutting video out there. Sometimes you just gotta walk away.
It's good that you know your comfort and safety levels, it ensures that you don't wind up in a situation that you get hurt or wind up causing damage to something. More people need to be like you in this respect, if your not properly equipped to do the job and don't feel safe walking away from it is the best thing for everyone involved.
Extremely valuable video
This channel deserves 1, 000, 000 / 1 MILLION-IN-SUBSCRIBERS!!!!
THIS IS THE BEST VID !!! ANY TREE SERVICE COULD SHARE ! EVERYONE SHOULD WATCH THIS.
You don't have to explain or make any excuses.. you went there you evaluated the situation look at it utilizing several different ways. And angles to get it on the ground. Don't know you but I am damn proud of you...
Respect, can't do them all. Safety first. Like the song“know when to fold them“
Wow!!!
That was crazy how the tree was breathing. Know when to walk away. Good decision. Stay safe
You are absolutely right by recommending someone who has the best equipment to handle the job and keeping yourself safe and out of harms way. Very smart thinking and you have to always remember that they will be very appreciative that you took rhe time to make sure it was safely done and that you were looking out for them also.
Keep up the great content and thanks for sharing this with everyone who appreciates your work and challenges...
Former tree Arborist Joe Ennis Jr of Joe Ennis and Son tree service of Pennsylvania now retired..
Gooood afternoon from central Florida! Hope everyone has a great afternoon! Safety Safety Safety... good job using the grey matter.
Good on you to walk away from that!
Totally a great call. Working in trees has so many factors to consider and I congratulate you on a very wise call.
This video made me think of a few videos that have really stuck in my mind in the last few years. Reg Coates " danger tree's" and "dead tree traverse" as well as Climbing Arborist "climbing on a DMM XSRE". They're all pretty applicable to this situation.
As someone who is thinking about a career tree change, thank you for sharing an example of what should not be climbed, but not only that, but what to do if you just can't. Like with my lack of experience I would have said "yeah nah forget it" then walked away, you went further and probably helped save another small business (the landscaper) from getting themselves into a massive quagmire and still helped the customer by referring them to two known good companies that have their own crane.
Really glad u walked away, you got a family to think about and you lost a friend not long ago so best be safe than dead 👍🏻
Excellent decision. Your safety is paramount.
I’m with ya. I think you dander the right decision. If you got hurt, your done. That’s what it comes down to. Good call man, on to the next one 👍🏾
We believe you made the right decision - ALWAYS go with your gut. You are a smart man!!
It is in your every right as a professional & a person to make judgment calls based on logistics of whatever we encounter. This line of work is extremely dangerous as it is, no need to take on any of these kind of extraordinary risk like this when you don’t have the equipment! Good call!
You were absolutely right.
I refused a completely hollow walnut a while ago. You have to know how to put your equivalents aside to promote safety. Good luck and take care of yourself :D
Circle of Death. This tree is the perfect example. I've heard people talk about the trunk splitting apart and crushing the climber in the circle of death, this is the first time i've seen a tree where that is my immediate thought. No way i'd touch that tree without some 3" ratchet straps holding it together, with one immediately below each trunk cut to prevent the trunk separating when the cut is made.
One of the most important things in tree work is knowing your capabilities and being willing to walk away from something beyond them. Thanks for sharing with us.
Wow! Fascinating and terrifying footage. Totally the right call. No excuses necessary. Totally agree with your thought process and with all comments below. You did the right thing, no question.
Say NO to crack!
Crazy tree! Wise choice to leave it behind, good sign of professionalism. Safety first!
Wasnt a boring video Jacob! Even though I don't do tree work anymore this seems insane to me!
Another great video. We love it❤
Jake is bummed.🌲
But thanking everyone for their support.
👍Lol. We are with you, bro. 🌲🌲🌲
Way to stay safe Jacob.
The best tree cutting video is any one that gets you home to do it all again tomorrow.
Good job knowing your limits , looking at the danger, and walking away Jacob. Congrats on the new baby. Nice jacket. I have the same one at home.
Yah!!! , That Tree Looked Like It Was Ready To Go!!
Seeing a pro like you walk away from a job is a great example for beginners to learn that it's ok to say, no to jobs.
Makes sense. Not the same but I work for a small cybersecurity company and my company has passed on work because it was too risky or complex for us. Referred them to a bigger fish. Sometimes the fish has passed small stuff back to us. Its part of the process
I'm getting into cyber as well. Do you have certs or did you just head-dive into all of the cyber work and then landed a cyber job? Also, what's the company called?
Good call. Cool video.
Yeah, that’s a no go!
Absolutely the correct thing to do. That is about as crazy as it gets. Good for you Jacob.
Better to let it fail and have the insurance handle it than to lose a life and family. Mad respect. Even if I had straps, chains, and a crane I most likely wouldn’t have done it in that wind.
good on you jacob... never feel embarrassed or shamed about backing out.. theres always an extra couple hours anyday to do it a different time,, theres only one you.
Smart move young man looking out for yourself and the others working around ya.
Good Job
The crazy part is this tree has been like that for quite a while.The healing along the edge of the crack says at least a year to me. (It is possible the recent wind made the damage worse; but the crack is not fresh.)
Risk is the product of the worst possible outcome, multiplied by the chance of it happening. In this case, that is, respectively, a "catastrophic and uncontrolled collapse while there are people around", and "I'd be stunned if it doesn't..." Great decision, Jake. And an especially big 'well done' for suggesting Eastside. That was very gracious of you. You're a good guy, Jake, keep it up. 👍🪓🇦🇺
Enjoyed the video. That's quite a tree. Subject to fail at any time. You made the correct decision to pass on it. Maybe on calm day you could anchor in to adjacent tree and swing over and eliminate the top branches and see how it goes from there. Good luck.
Wise choice man. Within the first minute of watching that thing open and close my mind was set on that being a crane gig.
Even if you were starving for work, there’s no sense in getting so caught up in the mentality of “I need to feed my family” that you put yourself in a position where you end up injured/crippled/dead and unable to provide for them for the long term.
It’s an inherently unsafe job in an inherently unsafe industry. You can’t make the job safe and still accomplish anything. Risk assessment and mitigation is up to the individual, all you can really do is make the best choice you can with the evidence available to you and hope it all turns out okay.
And there is no shame in ever telling a customer that “this is a crane job. Here’s a couple of companies with cranes who I know can do this job well”. I do it frequently, and despite people freaking out at the thought of a crane, when you explain that the savings in man hours they usually come around to the idea that a crane isn’t going to end up costing them any extra
That’s crazy I’ve lived in the PNW my whole live and never seen that. Good call on walking away.
Excellent, INTELLIGENT choice sir!
Of course not in the wind, but did you consider using a few load binders? they're used to hold down very heavy loads so they would likely hold the tree together. Would you cut perpendicular to the crack? Of course it's never wrong to recommend someone better suited to the task.
As Dirty Harry would say.... "a man's got to know his limitations"...
Safety First Jacob!
Listening to fear and common sense, will usually save the day.
But I don't blame you for walking away from it. And I would have walked away from it too. Until the winds died down? But I don't know what is in the distance. So I don't know how much room there was to let the limbs go out fast?
I have a tree that I was working just yesterday on my channel that looks just like this one. However I wouldn't have to climb it.
You absolutely made the right call walking away from that
That's insane! Amazing footage. Not boring at all. It's good to know what your limits are, and not yeet yourself into oblivion
Better to walk away and see another day than, well, I won't even mention the alternative.......good work man!
Excellent video, well done!!
This is a video every young man and noobie with chainsaw should watch, too many guys with “I can cut that down additude“ instead of the “should I cut that down“ additude. I still consider my self a noobie and have been scared shitless a few times. It's a important thing to teach.
Family comes first every time, you made the right decision.
How the heck did I miss the flip to 500. Congrats
knowing when to bag it is key to long working life. In one of your vids you were talking chain for 16" bar/chain. I do 99% forest climbing, majority of work is topping for snag creation. I run husky's but found that the stihl chain 63PS 56E chain is best for doug fir. It has a wider kerf and is basically a round file chisel bit chain. It eats wood and with larger kerf makes it more wedge friendly.
Very good choice on walking away from this one!
yea i would of passed on that one to my friend! i don't blame you the wind was way to strong for that tree!! great call shows a good leader as well
SMART call, I'd be no where Near that thing, seeing it split, then that wind😱😬
We can dance 🕺 if we want too, we can leave you're unsafe trees behind, cause if your friends don't climb then their no friends of mine 🎶🎵.
Great job reminding and teaching.
Have a great weekend 😀 with the family.
🤘😎✌️
Textbook example of correct "Risk Management". I applaud Jake for his wisdom and courage to decline this gig.
This tree is waaay beyond sketchy. I don't remember seeing a tree this wicked in my career (28 years USFS Wildland Fire).
Boring context: In contrast partially burned trees are usually easy to figure out.
Had we found a tree such as this along the fire line that needed to be dropped, we would have, most likely, flagged the area off, piled fuel around it and burned it down. Of course, this would take time and would likely need to be pushed forward to follow on crews- but the right thing to do.
“I’m not starving for grocery money “ 😅 congrats on the chitlen on the way , Jake. Wise man has spoken!
Never second guess your gut feeling in situations like this. Smart move.
Very smart decision, that crack was wild,