Is the Bitcoin Cycle Broken? With The Rational Root

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  • Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
  • The Rational Root is a Bitcoin on-chain & cycle analyst. In this interview, we discuss the Bitcoin ETF flows and how this cycle compares to previous ones, where we are on Root’s spiral chart, the supply dynamics at play and how liquid supply is dropping rapidly.
    “Personally I don’t really need those models, I believe Bitcoin is going to go eventually to a million dollars…and I expect at least prices above $140K this cycle.”
    - The Rational Root
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    00:03:57 Spiral Chart 3D
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Комментарии • 134

  • @lifeisgood5410
    @lifeisgood5410 19 дней назад +94

    I drive Uber and use that money to stack sats…I listen to this podcast while I uber… thank you for this content brother keep being great I’m locked in

    • @BoronKrypton2
      @BoronKrypton2 19 дней назад

      Keep stacking 🤜🤛

    • @robertgross9580
      @robertgross9580 19 дней назад +2

      JOE KENNEDY, a famous rich guy in his day, exited the stock market in timely fashion after a shoeshine boy gave him some stock tips. He figured that when the shoeshine boys have tips, the market is too popular for its own good, a theory also advanced by Bernard Baruch, another vested interest who described the scene before the big Crash:
      "Taxi drivers told you what to buy. The shoeshine boy could give you a summary of the day's financial news as he worked with rag and polish. An old beggar who regularly patrolled the street in front of my office now gave me tips and, I suppose, spent the money I and others gave him in the market. My cook had a brokerage account and followed the ticker closely. Her paper profits were quickly blown away in the gale of 1929."

    • @Securethemsats
      @Securethemsats 19 дней назад +3

      I do the same thing bro 🔥

    • @MrMr-dn7vs
      @MrMr-dn7vs 19 дней назад

      Fuck yes. Love to hear it! Great job mate.

    • @matthewmaguire3554
      @matthewmaguire3554 18 дней назад

      Doordasher here…Can’t say how much listening to podcasts while driving have helped in my Bitcoin education and realizing how need to listen to a three hour talk and walk away with one new insight…and it’s worth it.🐇

  • @eddiek5966
    @eddiek5966 19 дней назад +23

    BEEN IN THIS MARKET FOR 7 YEARS, and let me tell you nobody i mean NOBODY has a fucking clue but HOPE.PERIOD

  • @wickedsmartbitcoin
    @wickedsmartbitcoin 19 дней назад +34

    Dope spiral animation, root. Next level, m8. 🍻

  • @rkalla
    @rkalla 19 дней назад +5

    Amazing amount of information worked into that spiral chart - gold

  • @greganastas
    @greganastas 19 дней назад +6

    Thought I was watching you on rumble switching now! Cant wait until all content creators I watch post there...Preston

  • @juanllauro3799
    @juanllauro3799 14 дней назад

    Awesome as usual, thanks for sharing your insights

  • @technotarzan4044
    @technotarzan4044 18 дней назад +1

    anyone know the name of the book on RR shelf under the BTC Standard?

  • @seandarrah828
    @seandarrah828 19 дней назад +1

    Perfect timing for this video… Thanks, Peter we needed this…

  • @junipersnow1
    @junipersnow1 19 дней назад

    So fun, really like all the charts. Finally understanding Rational Roots focus, was over my head a few years ago.

  • @johngammon963
    @johngammon963 19 дней назад +3

    This is key regarding Power law = it does well on 'historic data'.

    • @Campy1
      @Campy1 14 дней назад

      What other data are you supposed to use? Data from the future?

  • @domenicofornas
    @domenicofornas 14 дней назад

    Rational Root charts are amazing! Thank your for this episode!

  • @LeeJF1
    @LeeJF1 19 дней назад

    Good show thanks bro 🤝

  • @adrianlopez3373
    @adrianlopez3373 19 дней назад

    Fantastic chats!

  • @MD97123
    @MD97123 18 дней назад +1

    The new spiral chart is very cool!

  • @Mark-yy2ki
    @Mark-yy2ki 19 дней назад +1

    Does anyone know what rational root's tshirt means? Because I saw someone wearing it yesterday in the supermarket.

    • @PreciousMetalinvest
      @PreciousMetalinvest 18 дней назад

      It means BTC

    • @dospy1
      @dospy1 17 дней назад

      It's the math ecuation for the total Bitcoin supply.

  • @TheBitcoinBlock
    @TheBitcoinBlock 19 дней назад +21

    Buy the dip!

    • @LongDefiant
      @LongDefiant 19 дней назад

      Veggie dip?
      🥁

    • @astroNexx
      @astroNexx 19 дней назад

      bro I've been deployed for over a year, no more funds

    • @recongraves
      @recongraves 19 дней назад

      Get in them Fiat mines son​@@astroNexx

  • @mazza3137
    @mazza3137 19 дней назад +4

    Thanks Peter. You keep bringing great guests to the table. ❤️👍

  • @XLeration
    @XLeration 19 дней назад +20

    We're so bullish with these charts the price went down 10% right away

    • @astroNexx
      @astroNexx 19 дней назад +2

      good. more time to stack

    • @cesuntbanii
      @cesuntbanii 19 дней назад +3

      lol. yeah, bitcoin stores value it just so happens that the value dropped

    • @adiintel1
      @adiintel1 19 дней назад

      Short term?​@@cesuntbanii

    • @relbik66
      @relbik66 16 дней назад

      What is 10%? 😂

  • @Bertol.Gretch
    @Bertol.Gretch 18 дней назад

    34:55 Supply decrease supposed to be bullish but in that chart seems directly correlated with price..

  • @gregoryw9
    @gregoryw9 19 дней назад +8

    Just when I thought the spiral chart couldn’t get any better - 3D with hashrate now! So bullish 🔥

  • @michaellehmann2803
    @michaellehmann2803 18 дней назад +1

    Anyone know what the formula on Root’s shirt is?

    • @dospy1
      @dospy1 17 дней назад

      Math ecuation for Bitcoin total supply

  • @pauljge
    @pauljge 11 дней назад

    What brand is the cap Danny is wearing? Looks cool 😎

  • @MiroPribanic
    @MiroPribanic 19 дней назад +1

    long live the Root....always interesting to listen to the Carrot ;-)

  • @arloc24
    @arloc24 18 дней назад +2

    I’m 52 hoping to end the rat race by 60 with above $1M. I know money is a liability to be exchanged for assets with real value like real estate (properties for rent) stocks (dividends) bonds (interest) But, what is it with bitcoin? I hear a lot about it and I'd love to diversify my portfolio.

    • @PreciousMetalinvest
      @PreciousMetalinvest 17 дней назад

      Hearing that you won’t have to sell you can rent bitcoin to the banks etc
      We’ll have to see

  • @crisper1614
    @crisper1614 19 дней назад +2

    If he drinks carrot juice. Does that make him a vampire? 🤔

  • @stevenp3050
    @stevenp3050 19 дней назад +3

    Great podcast Peter and team!
    Mayor Mccormick 🎉

  • @BradleyT2p2
    @BradleyT2p2 19 дней назад

    That spiral is badass

  • @markpalmer8083
    @markpalmer8083 18 дней назад

    More video podcasts? I thought you did them in person.

  • @rewolfer
    @rewolfer 10 дней назад

    The charts need horizontal gridlines. Hard to line up prices with the chart

  • @TheRealDerekS
    @TheRealDerekS 19 дней назад +7

    Root is good. But multiple astrophysicists have confirmed one equation:
    Price = 10^-17 days ^5.83
    This is the power law. If you dont understand the power law, you have no idea what's actually happening here. BTC is a scale invariant force of nature. It takes Roots model to the next level.
    Credit to Geo and Steven... get them on!

    • @mbshawaii
      @mbshawaii 18 дней назад +1

      Danny doesn't like math lol

    • @aussieman8738
      @aussieman8738 18 дней назад

      Most of astrophysics is bull.sh.. the earth is flat. Can't get out of the dome.

  • @westra4
    @westra4 19 дней назад +1

    Nice

  • @bitcoinpoemspro1406
    @bitcoinpoemspro1406 19 дней назад

    Thx

  • @adamkasprowicz
    @adamkasprowicz 16 дней назад

    People often see connections where there are none. On charts, they ignore points that disprove a thesis and focus on lines that support it. The truth is, if you work with the data long enough, you can fit a dog shape into a chart. Random footsteps in the snow can create interesting patterns, yet they are just noise. This is exactly what's happening here.

    • @adamkasprowicz
      @adamkasprowicz 16 дней назад

      *said a man who lost a ton of wealth following S2F and other gurus last cycle. When the music stops playing, it's a hard stop, not just a pause. The BTC tech is superb, yet most of the gains come from the liquidity in the legacy fiat system.

  • @antoniomiguelcabrileslocci7862
    @antoniomiguelcabrileslocci7862 19 дней назад

    What a great video, charts, data and more data, my head is boiling. Please Follow up in six Months to see how it plays out.

  • @LL-wn8yw
    @LL-wn8yw 19 дней назад

    That tool is some space x rocket building level ap

  • @kestreljc1559
    @kestreljc1559 19 дней назад

    I think the HODL Model S more accurately reflects the fact of all the bitcoin lost and continuing to be lost since inception.

  • @DonBrott-jz8it
    @DonBrott-jz8it 19 дней назад +1

    We in the 2nd ammendment USA have an unpleasant high speed lead surprise for theives...I will NOT HESITATE!

  • @ploutosroman4206
    @ploutosroman4206 19 дней назад

    Does rational root have a Twitter handle?

  • @X_x77x_X
    @X_x77x_X 19 дней назад +7

    It's hilarious how people don't understand power laws. Power laws don't make things; things make power laws, Danny. Denying that Bitcoin has been making a power law is like riding in a car going 60 miles per hour and arguing that it's not going that fast when you're in the car looking at the speedometer. And why the US dollar holds the power law the best is because it is the slowest to inflate; every other fiat currency inflates faster.

  • @antoniomiguelcabrileslocci7862
    @antoniomiguelcabrileslocci7862 19 дней назад

    Thanks Carrot man!!🥕🥕🥕🥕🥕🥕

  • @markwalker8374
    @markwalker8374 19 дней назад

    3-D spiral chart in orange - very carrot like

  • @haraldclark6206
    @haraldclark6206 18 дней назад

    Would be great to see Maya on the show, great hope for Suriname!

  • @mtc_77
    @mtc_77 19 дней назад +1

    long live Danny Knowles, first of his name, king of the andals and the first men and lord of the seven kingdoms.

  • @alivarfan1009
    @alivarfan1009 19 дней назад

    Great interview, can you please invite him once a month, Please?

  • @off-roadingcars
    @off-roadingcars 16 дней назад

    Can you get Plan B on?

  • @noname-yk3dr
    @noname-yk3dr 18 дней назад

    What if you looked at that circular graph as the earth's core?

  • @lastsonofkrypton3918
    @lastsonofkrypton3918 19 дней назад +1

    Never try to catch a falling knife.

    • @relbik66
      @relbik66 16 дней назад

      Right thats why you HODL bro 😅

  • @DrYahtzeeFish
    @DrYahtzeeFish 15 дней назад

    Give us the fucking spiral chart!

  • @tenmike
    @tenmike 18 дней назад

    Root is the best

  • @JeganBedpal
    @JeganBedpal 19 дней назад

    Thanks Mate, the sad truth is that no one has a clue, we all react to what happens as it happens and try to analyse it but can’t predict an iota of what is going to unfold in the markets… content creators are like amplifiers, when times are good they affirm it and try to tell you why it’s good and that it’s looking bullish but then all of a sudden the market turns bearish and everyone affirms it again and try to analyse why… it’s so sad that many are so powerless and it's not about guessing the market's next move; it's about playing it smart and steady during trading...managed to grow a nest egg of around 2.3Bitcoin to a decent 19Bitcoin in the space of a few months... I'm especially grateful to Kerrie Farrell, whose deep expertise and traditional trading acumen have been invaluable in this challenging, ever-evolving financial landscape.....

  • @Johnylabb
    @Johnylabb 18 дней назад

    One thing is not reflected there, is the fact that 100KUSD now are half the value of the same money 4 years ago. In other words, the real all time high Will be when we reach like 140k.

  • @josephcohen9480
    @josephcohen9480 18 дней назад

    Whenever guests on shows say 1 million$ BTC they need to say what that is worth in 2024 purchasing power. 1 mill in 5 years will be what 200k is today

  • @88gcllc
    @88gcllc 19 дней назад +1

    Cycle isn’t broken, “they” r simply trying to shake out retail. BTC 2 make new ATH’s soon enuf, b patient and DCA while cheap

    • @adiintel1
      @adiintel1 19 дней назад

      You mean turn the ship around?

  • @Notjoefresh
    @Notjoefresh 17 дней назад

    Is it really that different from criminals breaking into houses and demanding your bank card and PIN number?

    • @markpalmer8083
      @markpalmer8083 14 дней назад

      Yes. You're not likely to have easy access to a few million with your bank card and PIN.

  • @modelmark
    @modelmark 17 дней назад

    It's summer, it's nice e weather outside... not where you and me live carrot man, NL summer cancelled

  • @daxion9416
    @daxion9416 19 дней назад +1

    Need to be institutions to carry BTC above 70k , retail don’t buy BTC above 70k,why not make a split like they do to stocks for the price be lower? Or start utilizing the price in sats.

    • @relbik66
      @relbik66 16 дней назад

      How do you know?

  • @Joel_G_NZ
    @Joel_G_NZ 19 дней назад +1

    Who else let out an audible "Ooh!" when the spiral chart flipped 3D

  • @disco4535
    @disco4535 16 дней назад +2

    It cracks me up how this happens multiple times EVERY. SINGLE. CYCLE. And every single time people lose their minds. Not sure if they think they're going to get rich quick? Those days are LONG gone

  • @LongDefiant
    @LongDefiant 19 дней назад

    I don't know why people are so excited about the ETFs.
    ETFs just short the coin back into the market. They don't reduce BTC supply. Maybe the miners do better but they haven't juiced the coin price.

  • @RichardHowells1234
    @RichardHowells1234 19 дней назад

    AI and endo-cannabinoids
    Like the spiral!

  • @Annnnndbitcoinfixesthis
    @Annnnndbitcoinfixesthis 19 дней назад +1

    Always carry a pew pew.

  • @PeterPan30000
    @PeterPan30000 19 дней назад +3

    Omg, this is a literal porn chart

    • @XLeration
      @XLeration 19 дней назад

      The current bitcoin price isn't though...

    • @MiroPribanic
      @MiroPribanic 19 дней назад

      meant to make you hot...on BTC ;-)

    • @junipersnow1
      @junipersnow1 19 дней назад

      If this were porn charts I ejaculated at the Spiral chart, could not hold out to the end. There I said it. 🤣😂🤣

  • @robreke
    @robreke 16 дней назад

    I’m not sure I can take since dude with a carrot over his face seriously. Wait, yes I’m now sure - I can’t.

  • @Ohanxx
    @Ohanxx 19 дней назад

    This narrative is based on that the economy stays stable as is for the next years. Remember that if the fiat economy tanks, it will drag btc down as well. Things are looming in the shadows

    • @MoonSWGOH
      @MoonSWGOH 19 дней назад +1

      In a way. Each time a bank fails, Bitcoin gets stronger.

  • @mmcrypto2403
    @mmcrypto2403 19 дней назад +1

    Since I became so rich in cryptocurrency I realise that crypto is the future cuz I invested 10k and made up to 36k as weekly profit I appreciate the help of your channel 😃🙂.....

    • @skipondowntheroad5833
      @skipondowntheroad5833 19 дней назад

      Please refer us to your totally legitimate trading guru with three totally not weird names.

  • @oldgreenbus
    @oldgreenbus 16 дней назад

    SIK.. waffle cone

  • @l00k210
    @l00k210 19 дней назад +1

    25:10 outflows due to high fees? BS.. even you?

  • @pejuangreceh4220
    @pejuangreceh4220 17 дней назад

    Buy buy #notcoin

  • @dasfahrer8187
    @dasfahrer8187 19 дней назад

    BTC doesn't have any reason to go any higher at this point as it's adoption and ownership is currently saturated. It's going to have to have a massive innovation break-thru somewhere to spur another round of demand if it's to get back above $75k. Otherwise expect $25k BTC by the end of 2025.

  • @Jesus_Lied_ReadTheBible
    @Jesus_Lied_ReadTheBible 19 дней назад

    Support is broken the bull market is over. Great run up in March, sucks if you were chasing!

  • @jackc1222
    @jackc1222 4 дня назад

    Let me save you an hour of your time. No.

  • @meridianheights6255
    @meridianheights6255 18 дней назад

    What is wrong with this guy? I don't listen to talking veggies.

    • @ericwilson2632
      @ericwilson2632 17 дней назад

      😂🎉😂🎉😂so you listen to people that eat meat 🤣

  • @PeerkeP
    @PeerkeP 19 дней назад

    And if we don't reach 140k this cycle, you can always draw some different lines to fit a new narrative and explain why the bull run didn't take off. Really reminds me of PlanB and his delusional predictions. Get ready to be disappointed by Bitcoin and all the "Technical Analysts" once again.

  • @johannesburgreal441
    @johannesburgreal441 16 дней назад

    what a terrible guest. he's lame - why give him attention?

  • @John-wf5if
    @John-wf5if 19 дней назад +7

    In recent times, I don't know a single person who has (positively) brought up the topic of Bitcoin, let alone bought Bitcoin. Retail money is drying up and new participants are few and far between. A wildly fluctuating store of value with no transactional utility (due to fees and cap gains on all transactions) is apparently not a solid foundation for adoption.

    • @Chris_Richard
      @Chris_Richard 19 дней назад +9

      You should get out while you still can. We’ll keep the light on for you

    • @P__114
      @P__114 19 дней назад +7

      I bet you own Cardano or Bcash

    • @nated80
      @nated80 19 дней назад +6

      You have no idea what you're talking about.

    • @geoms6263
      @geoms6263 19 дней назад

      retail lost money in the past cycles .... do you think they did not learn their lesson?

    • @formxshape
      @formxshape 19 дней назад +2

      How are you measuring recent times? The last few hours? Days? Weeks? Years? Decades?

  • @markjaramilloGTA
    @markjaramilloGTA 19 дней назад +1

    Then Germany and Mt Gox pushed out the ⏲️ time

  • @paulkieffer1189
    @paulkieffer1189 19 дней назад

    Bought 332k at 54k. That was all my liquid cash on the sidelines. I’m all in bitcoin. Can’t buy anymore dips. I’m 100% all in now.

    • @user-bj3qp4cu9k
      @user-bj3qp4cu9k 19 дней назад +1

      Bought 2 BTC at 17 K. Even at this price I'm up 300%! I'm all in, HODLing and Buying The Dip. 25% drawback is NORMAL 2 or 3 times, hist. The MEGA Run isn't even SUPPOSED to start until October or so if the Cycle repeats the previous 3 patterns. It's worth the risk for poten10× more. Even 3× more is a huge win for ANY asset.