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    Stephen A. Smith, Max Kellerman and Jay Williams weigh in on Carmelo Anthony's claim on an Instagram Live chat with Dwyane Wade that he would have multiple championship rings if he was drafted by the Detroit Pistons over the Denver Nuggets.
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  • @BrejetyKirby
    @BrejetyKirby 4 года назад +804

    I rarely feel bad for max, but when Stephen a ALWAYS disses him and says he doesn’t know basketball, I hurt for him a little bit cause that’s got to get old hearing it over and over again.

    • @GotmerKed
      @GotmerKed 4 года назад +126

      Max should reply that Stephen A ONLY knows basketball. Sometimes its joke when you hear him talk about football and baseball.

    • @grizz7167
      @grizz7167 4 года назад +193

      Stephen A doesn’t know basketball as much as he thinks he does

    • @prestonwingate7836
      @prestonwingate7836 4 года назад +24

      Lol that’s cause he is always wrong Max flip flop more than any analyst on TV. He be trying to make these dumb arguments using words he think people can’t understand to make his point sound good. Just like the Tom Brady cliff theory lol. Brady done got two rings since then, and watch what he do with Tampa!

    • @adultadventures1597
      @adultadventures1597 4 года назад +13

      SAS really thinks he's smarter than white max 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • @jacksonbryant3325
      @jacksonbryant3325 4 года назад +5

      john He is I mean look at the net worth when SAS was max age. As a black man you have to be really smart

  • @moorstring
    @moorstring 4 года назад +632

    The bottom line is:
    There is nothing to watch sportswise on TV.

    • @Blackwaifus
      @Blackwaifus 4 года назад +10

      U need 1 million likes for this one

    • @SocraticMind89
      @SocraticMind89 4 года назад

      Big faccs

    • @AysarAburrub
      @AysarAburrub 4 года назад +1

      truer words were never spoken

    • @cliffishot2def
      @cliffishot2def 4 года назад +1

      Lol when all they do is talking about Lebron people say, "oh boy they can't stop talking about Lebron. When they dont talk about Lebron people say, "they really have nothing else to talk about ". Lol.

    • @Flowerz__
      @Flowerz__ 4 года назад

      I like watching the old games n stuff actually

  • @stevejobs8751
    @stevejobs8751 4 года назад +987

    "I'm not wearing any pants and here's why." - Stephen A

    • @dreamteam709
      @dreamteam709 4 года назад +3

      what?

    • @Ldmendez
      @Ldmendez 4 года назад +1

      HAHAHAHAHA

    • @landonp8531
      @landonp8531 4 года назад +38

      Max:I don't care that you aren't wearing any pants
      Stephen A: Here's why you are wrong

    • @romandavidovich754
      @romandavidovich754 4 года назад +7

      This won the internet for me today lol

    • @malacefromthepalace5657
      @malacefromthepalace5657 4 года назад +5

      He got an explanation for everything 😑😆

  • @drainmei5404
    @drainmei5404 4 года назад +416

    Stephen “THEY WERE IN A CLUB” A Smith.

  • @yayah22
    @yayah22 4 года назад +274

    Max: There were people who maybe hypothetically considered and thought is it possible Melo could potentially have gone first in the 2003-2004 draft before LeBron?!
    Stephen A: I just received a text from my sources regarding your sources that back in the day, they were high at the time.

    • @micolockett252
      @micolockett252 4 года назад +4

      yayah22 🗣 STAY OFF THE WEEEEEEED !!!!!

    • @MrDangelo7777
      @MrDangelo7777 4 года назад +2

      @Quentin Coberley THANKS ! they scrut Melo.

    • @kc1hotboy
      @kc1hotboy 4 года назад +1

      yayah22 Lmmfao

    • @Geeandrezzi
      @Geeandrezzi 4 года назад +1

      Quentin Coberley slight reach.......... 🧢

    • @shakadeveaux6851
      @shakadeveaux6851 4 года назад +1

      @Quentin Coberley I always said tht an ppl countered melo had the better team

  • @TreyLeday
    @TreyLeday 4 года назад +374

    “Hold on I’m givin you knowledge; fall back!” -Stephen A. Smith 2020

    • @clarencesmith467
      @clarencesmith467 4 года назад +11

      Savage 🤣🤣

    • @BlessedOne686
      @BlessedOne686 4 года назад +1

      😂😂😂😂

    • @TheLildude47
      @TheLildude47 4 года назад +30

      Entertaining but put respect on Max , your coworker

    • @ALYoungFuture13
      @ALYoungFuture13 4 года назад +6

      We The Brothas, Gnna have To Use This All 2020 !

    • @viilord2679
      @viilord2679 4 года назад +15

      That was disrespectful tbh

  • @prophetfromthex
    @prophetfromthex 4 года назад +168

    Also when Melo was 3rd in MVP and had 54 wins with NY, Rasheed Wallace was on that team.

    • @realniggashit3
      @realniggashit3 4 года назад +9

      Counterpoint: When the Nuggets won 57 games, it was with Ty Lawson and Andre Miller. Melo and Billups were both gone.

    • @scatpackty5936
      @scatpackty5936 4 года назад +12

      Thank you! Melo is not LeBron. Melo needs a leader, he was never a leader.

    • @prophetfromthex
      @prophetfromthex 4 года назад +3

      America First Productions no wonder it was a first round exit. They also had iggy and them boys, had a better team than when Melo was there. Had the nuggets had that 2013 team with Melo, that would’ve been a finals appearance for melo

    • @realniggashit3
      @realniggashit3 4 года назад +2

      ​@@prophetfromthex Doubt it. West was stacked. Melo and Billups would've also lost in the 1st or 2nd round if they didn't get lucky with seeding. They had the 2nd seed despite the same record as Spurs and Blazers and only 1 more win than 5th seed Rockets. And then Mavs did them a favor by upsetting Spurs in the 1st round. Spurs would've been a matchup nightmare for Denver. Denver was never a legit championship contender at any point.

    • @prophetfromthex
      @prophetfromthex 4 года назад

      America First Productions May be true but Melo never had true help. Bron did Bron things in the east. Went to LA which was a decent team and couldn’t make the playoffs. Yes injuries were a factor but the year after gets AD and help. Melo stood in NY and the best he got was JR. Melo needed another guy in 2013. They beat Miami 3-1 in the regular season. Had it not been for Tyson being injured, they would’ve beaten Indiana. A lot of should’ve could’ve would’ve but one thing for certain is Melo being a leader. Just needed another star to mesh with him. Amare wasn’t it, and the A.I/ Melo duo was short lived...

  • @miguellafortune
    @miguellafortune 4 года назад +240

    DET was team first mentality. I can understand why some would doubt a young melo would have trouble fitting in that system but honestly I think he would be just fine. Vets like sheed and Big Ben will make sure melo knows his role 😂

    • @lysanias876
      @lysanias876 4 года назад +11

      ShowTimeGaming thank u bro 🙏🏽

    • @he8500
      @he8500 4 года назад +10

      Melo said he was immature and an egotistical person at the time so I don't think he'd have brought into being a defensive worker to, he just wanted to stat pad and put up good numbers being a leading scorer, bj

    • @miguellafortune
      @miguellafortune 4 года назад +8

      H E true but with vets like Billiups and Big Ben and Larry Brown who dealt with a player very similar like Melo in AI, I think they could make it work

    • @JoeBro915
      @JoeBro915 4 года назад +4

      H E you can’t get away with that as a rookie no matter how talented you are. That squad would have checked him if he was shooting too much or not enough effort on D

    • @loumoney1018
      @loumoney1018 4 года назад +1

      FAXX!!!

  • @underdawgapparel
    @underdawgapparel 4 года назад +111

    Pistons with Melo instead of darko would’ve won a couple chips. Period

    • @Dnizzle227
      @Dnizzle227 3 года назад +2

      Point Blank

    • @jonjohnson1978.
      @jonjohnson1978. 3 года назад +5

      Pistons were about teamwork and hustle...melo would of disrupted that

    • @underdawgapparel
      @underdawgapparel 3 года назад +5

      @@jonjohnson1978. you become your environment or what you see on the daily. Melo would’ve had no choice but to adapt

    • @Dnizzle227
      @Dnizzle227 3 года назад +1

      @@jonjohnson1978. glad we got a psychic to tell us the other possibilities of what melo would of done....stfu

    • @jonjohnson1978.
      @jonjohnson1978. 3 года назад

      @@Dnizzle227 no

  • @Sephiroth766
    @Sephiroth766 4 года назад +72

    Fair point to make is that Larry Brown already dealt with Allen Iverson so I can bet he could have dealt fine with Carmelo

    • @raymondbembridge5319
      @raymondbembridge5319 4 года назад +1

      He didnt win the chip with A.I though but I get your point

    • @daswolio3204
      @daswolio3204 4 года назад +7

      Sephiroth766 different circumstances. He built an entire style of play and roster around AI. What made the ‘04 Pistons so great was their grit and grind, defense, and chemistry. Throwing in a shot chucking, ball stopping, poor defender seems problematic

    • @dannydaphantom2362
      @dannydaphantom2362 4 года назад

      DaSwolio U dint kno anything about ball bro

    • @daswolio3204
      @daswolio3204 4 года назад +1

      Danny K you don’t know English bro

    • @daswolio3204
      @daswolio3204 4 года назад +1

      kiyan west says a guy who doesn’t even provide a rebuttal lmaooo

  • @need-em
    @need-em 4 года назад +175

    I'M GIVING YOU KNOWLEDGE, FALL BACK💀

    • @jayjoe77
      @jayjoe77 4 года назад +4

      Need Em that hit hard 😂😂

    • @ThreadStoppa
      @ThreadStoppa 4 года назад +4

      😂😂😂

    • @Anthonycheesman33
      @Anthonycheesman33 4 года назад +16

      Yea the guy whose been wrong the last 7 finals lol

    • @HustleMan31
      @HustleMan31 4 года назад +2

      😂😂😂😭😭😭😭🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @fredygrijalva1359
      @fredygrijalva1359 4 года назад

      I would tell him that when he talks mma, boxing, or baseball

  • @mr.devindavis4353
    @mr.devindavis4353 4 года назад +212

    Max look like he want to shed a tear

    • @bornagain22
      @bornagain22 4 года назад +3

      Mr. KnowitALL deadasss😂

    • @victorpetrescu6586
      @victorpetrescu6586 4 года назад +11

      I mean, I'd be annoyed too if someone who is routinely giving idiotic takes acting like he's some basketball genius. I like Stephen A Smith, but he's downright delusional sometimes.

  • @borood1188
    @borood1188 4 года назад +293

    '04 Pistons won in his rookie year, so that's one automatically. '05 they went 7 with SA in a very low scoring series that could have gone either way. Melo definitely could have made the difference in that one. '06 lost to Miami, again needed some scoring punch. '07 lost Ben Wallace, so it's doubtful they would have beaten SA without him. By '08 they were finished. So one for sure, two very strong possibility and maybe three, but also Larry Brown left after '05.

    • @knoda2603
      @knoda2603 4 года назад +33

      Bo Rood your comment describes the situation very good

    • @phinaddict4857
      @phinaddict4857 4 года назад +10

      so your saying this pistons team coulda been a dynasty with melo. i still dont understand how they stopped big diesel and black mamba in 04.

    • @Doatello1991
      @Doatello1991 4 года назад +18

      @Andres Torres Kobe got locked up by Tayshaun Prince. Shaq was fat and out of shape. He was still an offensive juggernaut but his numbers were nothing like his performances from the Lakers’ 3-peat.
      Got to give credit to Ben Wallace and the Pistons’ bigs for wearing down Shaq even though he make 60% of his attempts for the series. Ben Wallace was able to force key turnovers from Shaq.

    • @yvans.
      @yvans. 4 года назад +3

      Doatello1991 bro shaq destroyed Ben Wallace in 04 out of shape or not 😂 Kobe was the one who killed the Lakers

    • @basketballgod2791
      @basketballgod2791 4 года назад +6

      The thing is though Carmelo was such a Beat scoring-wise and rebounding that I think it was easily two or three rings I mean with the amount of Defense they would have put around Carmelo that would have been ridiculous

  • @JewelAhmed23
    @JewelAhmed23 4 года назад +19

    Melo was a prospect. Winning NCAA and being the most outstanding player in the tournament. All the ingredients to be a championship winning player.
    I think Melo with a group of vets teaching him the game. He would transcend him self to a top player.

  • @markdemesa8322
    @markdemesa8322 4 года назад +72

    Molly isn't here yet I'm still telling her in my mind to be quiet. LMFAO.

  • @chrisbalseiro1505
    @chrisbalseiro1505 4 года назад +15

    Jay said “ I seen Anthony play defense ...in high schoool.” 😂 bruh

  • @balleralert3470
    @balleralert3470 4 года назад +76

    yall are screaming about something melo said so calmly

    • @jleww8959
      @jleww8959 4 года назад +4

      Gotta get them views

    • @Shiv23
      @Shiv23 4 года назад +4

      Nah it’s just Stephan a

  • @AttuideAdjuster101
    @AttuideAdjuster101 4 года назад +7

    “I’m giving you knowledge. Fall back” 😭‼️I cant wait to have kids so I can use that

  • @Wodz30
    @Wodz30 3 года назад +8

    I watched those Pistons teams and I watched them carry the trophy. Truly incredible. I will never forget witnessing history like that.

  • @gamingharness15
    @gamingharness15 4 года назад +40

    “HOLD ON I’m giving you knowledge , FALL BACK” 🤣🤣🤣 I gotta start using that lmao

  • @BILLADO
    @BILLADO 4 года назад +10

    Max has a way of twisting the questions when he peep he messed up 🤣🤣

  • @rememberme7056
    @rememberme7056 4 года назад +38

    Leadership according to Stephen a Smith:
    Point your finger to the exit in a crowded night club.

  • @thomasross7201
    @thomasross7201 4 года назад +42

    Stephen A gets so much factually incorrect, so often that it's laughable for him to suggest that he's educating anyone on anything.

    • @dDddddddddddddhhh
      @dDddddddddddddhhh 4 года назад

      Thomas Ross John Salley said Carmelo should have gone no.1 on Vlad TV recently but Stephen A knows every ‘officando’ in basketball so I probably imagined that Vlad TV interview.

  • @tobyhawthorne9150
    @tobyhawthorne9150 4 года назад +65

    “If you add a great player it doesn’t necessarily make you a better team” end debate max is correct. Ya’ll never heard of the chaos theory?

    • @luny2nez281
      @luny2nez281 4 года назад +24

      Carmelo is a rookie. How much can a rookie scoring machine do to make a team worse? Carmelo wouldve been coming off the bench anyways

    • @jordanndombe4537
      @jordanndombe4537 4 года назад +15

      But you adding a rookie not an all star who gonna demand things.
      That's a kid coming on a great team he can only listen

    • @ganzvv3726
      @ganzvv3726 4 года назад +1

      Plus the pistons themselves said that they wouldn’t have won a ring that year anyway. Why? Because they also understand the power of team play. As a pistons fan I’ll tell u that melo wouldn’t have made any difference because we had all of the tools and the opportunity to get that other chip. We all said the same thing when melo joined the thunder and we’ve seen how that turned out.

    • @jow8480
      @jow8480 4 года назад +14

      @@ganzvv3726 melo joining okc wasn't the best example as melo had arguably already gone past his peak form like stephen a smith said melo left it way too late to leave the knicks

    • @ALYoungFuture13
      @ALYoungFuture13 4 года назад

      European Nonsense Theories

  • @lamonteaton3490
    @lamonteaton3490 4 года назад +82

    Carmelo would have won with them if he stayed in locker room.

    • @bornagain22
      @bornagain22 4 года назад

      Lamont Eaton deaddddd

    • @richb7338
      @richb7338 4 года назад

      Lamont Eaton 👀🤣🤣🤣☠️☠️☠️

    • @nhlakaniphoevacueezitha5977
      @nhlakaniphoevacueezitha5977 4 года назад

      Cold😂

    • @LILCHAIN24
      @LILCHAIN24 4 года назад

      Exactly!

    • @mrmaninred22
      @mrmaninred22 4 года назад

      Literally the only way it works. Putting him on the team and not like him disrupt what they already had going on.

  • @scruffd0g193
    @scruffd0g193 4 года назад +29

    A Pistons team with Richard Hamilton, Chauncey Billups, Rasheed Wallace, Tayshaun Prince, Ben Wallace and Carmelo Anthony would win TWO NBA Finals.

    • @Myleslambeth
      @Myleslambeth 4 года назад +1

      Scruff D0g minimum!!!

    • @Geeandrezzi
      @Geeandrezzi 4 года назад +2

      Myles Lambeth different dynamics, can’t just assume that...

    • @trysephiroth007
      @trysephiroth007 4 года назад +2

      Who's knows if they would have even got Sheed if they drafted Mello. They traded for Sheed because Darko wasn't playing like a number two pick.

    • @Loganbub
      @Loganbub 4 года назад

      Troy Moore ok but either way they still needed a big and would of absolutely traded for Sheed regardless of if they had Melo or Darko

    • @Geeandrezzi
      @Geeandrezzi 4 года назад

      Pouch King the blazers could’ve asked for a different return in the trade. They could’ve wanted tayshaun included in the trade. Which would have made that team WAYYY different defensively......

  • @DenizCDemir
    @DenizCDemir 4 года назад +7

    Max said nothing wrong. His Indiana point was not wack. He wasn't even forcing it. He just said he would have doubts to whether or not the Pacers would have exploited the defensive liability the is 'Melo. The series already went 7 games as it is. Small things make a difference in series this close.

  • @sports3117
    @sports3117 4 года назад +72

    Stephen A. is keeping ESPN afloat during the time of crisis

    • @Ronbon
      @Ronbon 4 года назад +4

      Sports 311 he would keep them afloat regardless of what’s happening

    • @joelnjabo5820
      @joelnjabo5820 4 года назад +3

      He keeps them afloat in normal conditions.

  • @machomunkey482
    @machomunkey482 4 года назад +106

    Watching Max’s face every time he’s getting Schooled is hilarious

    • @damarimoland1613
      @damarimoland1613 4 года назад +1

      Macho Munkey 💀

    • @zack7569
      @zack7569 4 года назад +21

      No he was making that face because Stephan a. is annoying

    • @mkadoza
      @mkadoza 4 года назад +11

      @@zack7569 Was Stephen A wrong tho? Jay Williams was also lookin at Max crazy for that take.

    • @machomunkey482
      @machomunkey482 4 года назад +1

      Goodnight Gaming you sound mad 😢

    • @zack7569
      @zack7569 4 года назад +8

      Macho Munkey I’m not mad I just feel bad for max sometimes

  • @lifeinthenight8613
    @lifeinthenight8613 4 года назад +6

    Stephen A always saying Max doesn't know basketball, but he's the same dude that changes his 'best player in the world' every other day lol!
    You're not any better Stephen A!!

  • @kamenshepard1110
    @kamenshepard1110 4 года назад +22

    “They were in a club, they were in a club, they were in a club.. wait hol up they were in a club”.

    • @derrick5112
      @derrick5112 4 года назад

      The Lazy Gator 🤣🤣🤣

  • @8ElliottScott
    @8ElliottScott 4 года назад +26

    “The Tayshaun Princes of the World”

    • @JohnSmith-wh2ob
      @JohnSmith-wh2ob 4 года назад

      Mark Scott and those boys

    • @zaincasey9203
      @zaincasey9203 4 года назад

      I would love to meet them lmao

    • @8ElliottScott
      @8ElliottScott 4 года назад

      @@JohnSmith-wh2ob not to mention John Smith, WHO CAN BALL!

  • @lysanias876
    @lysanias876 4 года назад +45

    Max is only playing devil’s advocate. We all clearly know Melo would’ve had a few chips if Melo started in Detroit

    • @erikpuka2627
      @erikpuka2627 4 года назад

      But he didnt.He didnt win

    • @olofacosta3192
      @olofacosta3192 4 года назад

      @@erikpuka2627did you read the comment?

  • @patrykgadek5503
    @patrykgadek5503 4 года назад +22

    "You see Max you see this is why I have difficult time listening to you with basketball sometimes"
    Stephen A. straight away

    • @bron3376
      @bron3376 4 года назад

      Patryk Gadek I laughed 😂😂😂

    • @darkkiwi6312
      @darkkiwi6312 4 года назад

      LMAOOOO just realised bro im laughng

  • @Laurent_08
    @Laurent_08 4 года назад +15

    Max is fully right. The Pistons were great because of their identity, they were tough, they were sometimes mean, they defended every second, they were a true "team", they had no individual ego, Melo would not have been a good fit at all. And by the way, Melo wouldn't have accepted to start on the bench, no way.

    • @playahdub5287
      @playahdub5287 4 года назад +1

      As a rookie he had no Choice

    • @jordanndombe4537
      @jordanndombe4537 4 года назад

      They not talking about all star melo but an 18yr old rookie coming to a great team.
      He could only listen to them

    • @blaccpanther8715
      @blaccpanther8715 4 года назад +2

      No 18 year old is coming into the NBA and refusing to play off the bench. Also Melp was never a bad defender, he just wasnt a good defender. Like they said, in that system he merely needs to be serviceable. It's a better fit than Melo going to a team with bad defense lol

    • @Laurent_08
      @Laurent_08 4 года назад

      @@blaccpanther8715 Melo was a NCAA superstar, with already a huge ego, no he wouldn't have accepted to start on the bench.

    • @Laurent_08
      @Laurent_08 4 года назад

      @@playahdub5287 You have the choice to be unhappy about it and let everybody know you're unhappy...Melo was a superstar coming into the draft, no way he would have accepted to not being a starter.

  • @lalogia2020
    @lalogia2020 4 года назад +12

    Max is absolutely right here, he’s too intelectual...

    • @southernaviator7010
      @southernaviator7010 4 года назад

      Right?! These fools literally do not understand Max. Team chemistry is the most untrackable metric there is. Assuming Melo makes the even the same yet alone better is lazy thinking. One piece that doesnt quite fit can ruin the whole puzzle.

    • @saintdockery5740
      @saintdockery5740 4 года назад +1

      @@southernaviator7010 Melo took a 17 win nuggets team to 43 wins

  • @FierySpiritMaury
    @FierySpiritMaury 4 года назад +38

    “He Maybe gets one” like upgrading darko with melo jeopardizes that 2004 chip

    • @mattlarghi
      @mattlarghi 4 года назад +2

      tayshaun prince locked down kobe
      melo wouldve let kobe get 30 every game. Does rookie melo score enough to make up the difference? Unless you're saying rookie melo could've come off the bench for 2004 Detroit, which fine, I guess he could've won a title as a bench guy

    • @KimarKurosaski
      @KimarKurosaski 4 года назад +5

      Camari they probably don’t get Rasheed Wallace who everyone in this comment section pretends was already on the team and not a midseason pickup. Without Melo there they probably don’t pick him up and no Sheed = no rings period.

    • @tli7657
      @tli7657 4 года назад +2

      @kiyan west exactly I hate when folks try and be cute with obvious, common sense arguments. Cool, Prince shut down Kobe but he gave them 10 ppg. Pistons as a whole were a defensive juggernaut, inserting a 20ppg scorer in Melo wouldn't make them worse.

    • @LILCHAIN24
      @LILCHAIN24 4 года назад

      Lmao exactly

    • @patjenkins1308
      @patjenkins1308 4 года назад

      @kiyan west maybe they would not have the money to get him midseason if Melo is there already

  • @patrickhanlon2325
    @patrickhanlon2325 4 года назад +36

    Anyone from that draft wouldve won a chip if they joined Detroit

    • @davesims4590
      @davesims4590 4 года назад +1

      Facts

    • @benjacobs2560
      @benjacobs2560 4 года назад +7

      Thank you. I would’ve won 6 rings if the Bulls drafted me with Michael and Scottie

    • @joejenkins1827
      @joejenkins1827 4 года назад +2

      People forget they drafted Darko to be a four he bombed so they trade for sheed no telling of that trade happens if melo or bosh gets drafted and neither was the offensive or defensive player sheed was at that time

    • @patrickhanlon2325
      @patrickhanlon2325 4 года назад +2

      @@joejenkins1827 I actually did forget about that, without sheed there I'm not so high on melo winning with them

    • @JrKdM
      @JrKdM 4 года назад

      they could have atleast gotten chris kaman who was solid as a center

  • @3waytrayy444
    @3waytrayy444 4 года назад +6

    Bruh rookie melo was giving starters 20 a game, you bring him of the bench against second stringers?? He probably would've been 6th man of the year easy.

  • @h1xlockz117
    @h1xlockz117 4 года назад +42

    1:05 jay Williams loving this 😂😭

  • @Hadad-ln9ww
    @Hadad-ln9ww 4 года назад +22

    melo stops ball movement. Great scorer, thats all. No rings. Pistons were good cuz of a balanced team off. and def.

    • @troyduffie3836
      @troyduffie3836 4 года назад +4

      X2 Kings You gotta go watch the last video. Jay talked about ego and understanding of the game getting shaped by your first team. The same is true of melo. He HAD to score in Denver and in NYC.

    • @BigDilf3
      @BigDilf3 4 года назад

      Troy Duffie that’s what people don’t understand melo gets drafted by us he’s already a great scorer they would’ve made him a great defender too

    • @Hadad-ln9ww
      @Hadad-ln9ww 4 года назад

      @@troyduffie3836 Whether you HAD to score or not doesn't dictate whether you play defense or not. They guy has been in the league over 15 years. Sooner or later you evolve into more than a scorer if your a great player.

  • @Bhagos2
    @Bhagos2 4 года назад +10

    If Melo came off the bench he would have won but if he started over Tayshaun I 100% agree with Max

    • @MugiwaraMattB
      @MugiwaraMattB 4 года назад +1

      But bro the most important detail of this is that Melo was a rookie. No way he’s starting. He would have been a champ and 6th man of the year

    • @lukebashian5591
      @lukebashian5591 4 года назад

      Mugiwara MattB I dunno Melo probably would expect to start

    • @Stonecoldalston
      @Stonecoldalston 4 года назад +2

      Ben Hagos they win whether Melo start of come off the bench either way that combo of Melo and Prince would have so worked Melo dropping buckets then prince coming in and shutting down Melo man wearing him down then Melo coming back in putting more pressure on him to stop him

    • @TheProdigyJohn
      @TheProdigyJohn 4 года назад

      I think sheed comes off the bench he only played 20 games that season either way they’re winning with melo

    • @trysephiroth007
      @trysephiroth007 4 года назад +1

      @@MugiwaraMattB Sheed wasn't even on the team then so Mello would be starting and they might not have even traded for Sheed.

  • @Gunners4life629
    @Gunners4life629 4 года назад +32

    Carmelo doesn't really need a ring to be a Hall of Famer he just has to be great that's all 👍👍🌟🌟 shout out to Carmelo Anthony greatest Denver Nuggets player ever

    • @davidvidda8515
      @davidvidda8515 4 года назад +5

      Jokic will pass him if he stays healthy

    • @youtubeburr
      @youtubeburr 4 года назад +1

      David Vidda Key word: if

    • @bryanroberts5409
      @bryanroberts5409 4 года назад +3

      Y'all had a player by the name of Alex English who was pretty decent...

    • @mgvocals4058
      @mgvocals4058 4 года назад

      Chauncey done more in Denver's than melo

    • @mgvocals4058
      @mgvocals4058 4 года назад

      And he isnt better than david Thompson

  • @scruffd0g193
    @scruffd0g193 4 года назад +1

    A Pistons team with Chauncey Billups, Richard Hamilton, Tayshaun Prince , Rasheed Wallace, Ben Wallace and Carmelo Anthony as your sixth man would absolutely win multiple NBA Championships.

  • @dvon1097
    @dvon1097 4 года назад +4

    That story of Chauncey at the club tellin everyone to get out is epic

    • @brianbanks8570
      @brianbanks8570 4 года назад

      SAS used to bring this up all the time back in his early days on First take.

  • @coltonbeebe8779
    @coltonbeebe8779 4 года назад +16

    First take is giving me at least some sort of entertainment through this tough time. Stephen A can make anything entertaining

  • @petermarkbuay8573
    @petermarkbuay8573 4 года назад +3

    Max is breaking my heart with his argument... Melo could have been a two way player if was drafted by Detroit... imagine pistons are always in the Finals (04 & 05) and ECF (06,07 & 08)... and they still will not win with Melo? 🤦‍♂️

    • @derekllp23
      @derekllp23 4 года назад

      The question is, did Melo have the mindset to be a two-way player? Most guys who have that defensive mentality don't have to be taught it at the pro level. They just have that dog in them to be a defender. We can't assume he'd just develop that because he'd be on the Pistons.

  • @gusto2954
    @gusto2954 4 года назад +5

    The question is do they make the move for Rasheed, if Carmelo is playing well?

    • @blackbehemoth6073
      @blackbehemoth6073 4 года назад

      Vance Terry very true. If they pull the Rasheed trade without losing much, they would have gone back to back

  • @trippy1938
    @trippy1938 4 года назад +25

    This the same dude that said Kawhi has more clutch moments than Kobe😭😭

  • @lexxluggur5277
    @lexxluggur5277 4 года назад +30

    Stevens A’ s face 3:44 😂😂😂

    • @you1680
      @you1680 4 года назад +1

      Lexx Luggur jajajajajja

    • @Arashi嵐
      @Arashi嵐 4 года назад

      @@you1680 we don't speak that way. Its hahahaha

    • @stevenbnd
      @stevenbnd 4 года назад +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @drainmei5404
      @drainmei5404 4 года назад +1

      Lexx Luggur Look at 1:50 🤣🤣💀

  • @turbografxx
    @turbografxx 4 года назад +3

    Are they implying that a group of defensive minded players in the pistons wouldn’t influence a rookie Carmelo to become a decent defender???

  • @EmacMac-ph2zd
    @EmacMac-ph2zd 4 года назад +1

    It’s funny because Mark Wilburhn who works for ESPN said he thought Carmelo maybe the better prospect than Lebron. Max is right

  • @WavyJazzyBanks
    @WavyJazzyBanks 4 года назад +3

    I always said Melo’s legacy was lost on draft day! They had THE squad in the East for years...with Darco!!!

  • @nathanrobertson1223
    @nathanrobertson1223 4 года назад +1

    SAS seems like he feels intellectually threatened by Max sometimes, which is why he gets so easily defensive

  • @Mrgiftedsoul
    @Mrgiftedsoul 4 года назад +13

    I’m having a hard time deciding what jay Williams looks like more a genius food critic turtle or an uncover black kebler elf

  • @theoakman80
    @theoakman80 4 года назад +1

    And Max is wrong. The Bulls had the best defensive team. Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Harper. The Pistons team was an absolute defensive force.

  • @chauncey123mcallister7
    @chauncey123mcallister7 4 года назад +10

    Aye my name is Chauncey, and I like hearing S.A.S saying my name...I feels good 😂

  • @SILMANTV
    @SILMANTV 4 года назад +1

    SAS tried to act like he’s sum basketball genius when he picked 7 finals wrong IN A ROW speaks in generalities,hypotheticals,psychological and intangibles more than anybody

  • @nothingspecial8114
    @nothingspecial8114 4 года назад +4

    0:28 But yet they always want to bring up Jon Gruden taking over Tony Dungy’s team LOL

    • @nothingspecial8114
      @nothingspecial8114 4 года назад

      darcoman2 Larry Brown was white it not a racism thing Stephen A is just being biased and hypocritical

  • @drakevick1646
    @drakevick1646 Год назад +1

    For the first time ever, I agree with Max. The whole thing with the Pistons was how they maximized each position’s speciality. This was because each gave them exactly what they needed, so inserting Carmelo into that lineup sort of ruins the whole system in place.

  • @iismellgood
    @iismellgood 4 года назад +5

    I can't wait to see this as baby Stephen A Smith

  • @sharpcheddah9385
    @sharpcheddah9385 3 года назад

    I just became a Stephen A Smith fan with him telling max when he tried to interrupt him "fall back, I'm giving you knowledge".

  • @marlonthemightysmith7836
    @marlonthemightysmith7836 4 года назад +4

    I love how they say mello don't play d. On that team he wouldn't of had to! Not to mention I seen games in mellos prime where he locked down kobe

    • @Antygrvity69
      @Antygrvity69 4 года назад +1

      Marlon Smith: What game / games did you see Melo Lock down Kobe? Melo is a stiff defending 4 @ best, guarding an all time great 2 in Kobe is ridiculous.!

    • @Antygrvity69
      @Antygrvity69 4 года назад +2

      @kiyan west : No need to, I'm old enough to have watched that series when it was actually going on. I'm 49 years old.
      Melo was not going to be a good fit w/ that Pistons team. That Pistons core group was a very close & special group. What many of you seem to forget is that "w/ the exception of Tysuan Prince", each one of them had either failed on other NBA teams, or had worn our their welcome. They came together & proved everyone wrong..
      Melo was coming off an NCAA Championship, felt he should've been # 1 & had a huge ego (understandably so).. That team moved the ball very well & played for each other. The ball stops w/ Melo

    • @Antygrvity69
      @Antygrvity69 4 года назад +1

      @kiyan west: By the way Kobe averaged 34pts / 5rbs/ & 5.8 assists in that playoff series against the Nuggets, & the Lakers beat them 4 games to 2. Maybe I'm missing something. So Please explain to me how Carmelo Anthony shut Kobe down?

  • @DrowningAreYou
    @DrowningAreYou 4 года назад +1

    So in Max's logic, Darko was a good defender because he didn't make the Pistons lose against the Pacers.
    If you take out Darko and insert Melo into the roster, the Pistons win chips as long as they keep that team together until they got too old.

  • @ArshdeepSingh-yl5fr
    @ArshdeepSingh-yl5fr 4 года назад +4

    Pistons don’t win a ring if they draft Melo, as that likely means Tayshaun Prince off the bench plus they likely don’t even trade for Rasheed Wallace, and Melo was a ball dominant player

    • @jleww8959
      @jleww8959 4 года назад +3

      Naw .. melo off the bench . Pistons wouldn't Need melo To start , until later on in his Career

    • @hassanhaulcy
      @hassanhaulcy 4 года назад

      Arshdeep Singh THANK YOU PPL SLEEP ON PRINCE’S impact

    • @jordan12118
      @jordan12118 4 года назад +5

      They would've brought Melo off the bench. Y'all Melo haters something else

    • @lysanias876
      @lysanias876 4 года назад

      J Leww facts

  • @SoulofPimpC
    @SoulofPimpC 4 года назад +1

    When Steven A. told Max to fall back I lost it! lolololololol

  • @docrussojr
    @docrussojr 4 года назад +3

    Melo would've had a Kawhi-like development.

    • @TheBINIBALL
      @TheBINIBALL 4 года назад

      Honestly, this is a legit "what-if" situation

  • @jamesloch3023
    @jamesloch3023 4 года назад +1

    Max is struggling to be the heel . But he is smiling throughout. He got lit up and took it well. Love this show

  • @CalixSteez
    @CalixSteez 4 года назад +17

    Yeah Max gotta chill with this one lmao I usually side with him but he’s crazy.

    • @jamellbrown7315
      @jamellbrown7315 4 года назад +3

      Troubled Boy side with him about what!!!?!!!

    • @rouzmajlessi1233
      @rouzmajlessi1233 4 года назад +1

      Ppl forget is they probably would have not treated for Rasheed Wallace if they had Carmelo

    • @EBee_Z
      @EBee_Z 4 года назад

      @@rouzmajlessi1233 why not? They play different positions and Carmelo would have probably been an understudy to Tayshon Prince.

  • @Woidso
    @Woidso 4 года назад

    Detroit fan here. We talk about this all the time. If we draft Melo, we don't trade for Rasheed in the 03-04 season. SAS is incorrect stating that Rasheed would have been on the roster.
    Drafting Darko was one of the biggest mistakes any franchise has made in the last 20 years, but the trade for Rasheed, true defensive identity, and selflessness got us that title. I don't think we'd have won it any other way.

  • @reginaldhill8082
    @reginaldhill8082 4 года назад +7

    Stephen A : put ppl around melo that can defend like they did iverson ...
    also stephen A ... melo has only been to one conf finals

    • @TheProdigyJohn
      @TheProdigyJohn 4 года назад

      Reginald Hill lol whats your point 😂

    • @OfficialTyrellP
      @OfficialTyrellP 4 года назад

      Exactly they didn’t surround melo wit great defenders like that that’s why he only made one conf finals

    • @brown_xkmd486
      @brown_xkmd486 4 года назад

      people always say thay philly team was trash but they specifically built that team around AI. got guys who did all the defense/rebounding so AI could just focus on scoring. that’s why they made the finals and why larry brown won coach of the year

    • @reginaldhill8082
      @reginaldhill8082 4 года назад

      ce and not to mention they stole a game from LA ..... IN LA .. clearly overmatched

    • @brown_xkmd486
      @brown_xkmd486 4 года назад

      Reginald Hill they were one of the best defensive teams in the league that year, that helps. that kind of roster set up is the only way I see a team making the finals if their star player is primarily just a scorer like melo/AI

  • @SILMANTV
    @SILMANTV 4 года назад +1

    1:50 what happens when u don’t listen and get over emotional kuz that’s exactly what max said SAS is just up in his feelings kuz he doesn’t logically think they would win 2 or 3 rings wit Melos serious gap in defense which is a solid argument for THAT specific team

  • @bc1406
    @bc1406 4 года назад +5

    Max caught in a web of his lies

  • @travieetreproductions943
    @travieetreproductions943 4 года назад +1

    Jon Salley said he thought Melo should’ve went #1 over LeBron

  • @CookieGrandson
    @CookieGrandson 4 года назад +4

    Max always got that little smirk when he know he done pissed Stephen A off lol

  • @darkkiwi6312
    @darkkiwi6312 4 года назад +1

    0:00 the disrespect and look at max face too smh

  • @ziggygotdajuicetv4086
    @ziggygotdajuicetv4086 4 года назад +8

    Nobody:
    Stephan A Smith: *Loud Noices*

  • @lagrove350
    @lagrove350 4 года назад +1

    Why do they constantly talk about this man when he hasn't done anything newsworthy in years?

  • @anthonysegree571
    @anthonysegree571 4 года назад +25

    Max have something personal against Melo I’m convinced lol

    • @toddymcgann6129
      @toddymcgann6129 4 года назад +1

      Yeah cause he never brought the knicks anywhere

    • @youtubeburr
      @youtubeburr 4 года назад +1

      Toddy McGann be bought them to their first playoff series win since 2002. That was the only time he had an actual team around him

    • @austin78993
      @austin78993 4 года назад +2

      He's scarred by the mismanagement of the Knicks and Melo's selfishness is the epitome of post golden-age Knicks that don't care about winning. Max grew up in New York and he knows a selfish player when he sees one.

    • @youtubeburr
      @youtubeburr 4 года назад

      austin78993 how was melo selfish? Let me guess “he KicKed LiN oUt”

    • @youtubeburr
      @youtubeburr 4 года назад

      kiyan west and meanwhile lebron who got his coaches fired and tried to get spo fired is viewed as unselfish. These media narratives have gotta stop

  • @joanlucas2254
    @joanlucas2254 4 года назад +2

    if the Pistons had caught him we would have another 2 titles it hurts a piston fan to see the Bulls with 6 titles and we only have 3 because they come down to Jordan, and we've always had competitive teams throughout history

  • @johnmickns
    @johnmickns 4 года назад +9

    Those pistons teams underachieved actually. They shoulda at 2 chips at the least and add melo instead of darko...

    • @Isthatthegrimreaper170
      @Isthatthegrimreaper170 4 года назад +2

      john mickins no they didn’t, beating the lakers in 04 is still regarded as a massive upset
      They had no superstar, average offense, and the west had like 4 contenders, at least, what do you mean?

    • @johnmickns
      @johnmickns 4 года назад

      @@Isthatthegrimreaper170yeah they lost to the spurs the next year i get that. Spurs were VERY solid. But they had absolutely no business losing to the heat in '06 in 6, or the Cavs in the '07 also in 6 both in the ECF

    • @JrKdM
      @JrKdM 4 года назад

      @@johnmickns yea they should have won against the cavs atleast but gotta give props to Lebron

    • @johnmickns
      @johnmickns 4 года назад +1

      @@JrKdM I'm a HUGE lebron fan. He put on one of the greatest playoff performances of all time. I also thought it was poor coaching on the late flip saunders part as well

  • @RealestatePape
    @RealestatePape 4 года назад

    As a pistons fan We finally got coverage years later they used to hate the pistons we got no tv coverage back then

  • @RatoyaBanks
    @RatoyaBanks 4 года назад +4

    At 1:01 I thought max was gonna cry. Hurt my feelings lol

    • @NeoMicy
      @NeoMicy 4 года назад

      Why do all the hot women live in the USA? xD

    • @phinaddict4857
      @phinaddict4857 4 года назад

      @@NeoMicy noooo not true. all over the world especially in europe theirs lots of hotties. go take a trip to europe or south america and check out dem hotties. bring one home or a couple your preference. its worth your money. I live in Cali so I get to see the hot cali blondes everywhere.

  • @reginaldpolk6446
    @reginaldpolk6446 4 года назад

    Kenyon Martin came out and said they never even coached/practiced defense in Denver, they just relied on him and Camby. Which is why he hated George Karl saying Melo didn't play defense. If Melo was drafted to a great defensive team with good leadership, there's no way he wouldn't be a different player.

  • @2khoward77
    @2khoward77 4 года назад +10

    Max really is such a downgrade from skip. He has ruined first take

  • @Jayherbo23
    @Jayherbo23 4 года назад +3

    “I’m giving you knowledge fall back “ 😂😂

  • @BootsieTheGreek
    @BootsieTheGreek 4 года назад +2

    A player talking about rings he could have had when he has ZERO is like some jo schmo saying yeah I could make the NBA🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @davesims4590
      @davesims4590 4 года назад

      Facts

    • @TheProdigyJohn
      @TheProdigyJohn 4 года назад

      No it isnt 😂😂its like saying put melo on a championship team over darko and hed have some championships 💀💀

  • @LUX-lx6fb
    @LUX-lx6fb 4 года назад +5

    " I love you son"
    Stephan a: "Mom your wrong n here's why"

  • @mikecallan5165
    @mikecallan5165 4 года назад +1

    "Wait, wait, wait Max! You're telling me, that Carmelo Anthony would not have won a championship, had he been on the 96 Bulls?!?!" I love Melo, but how deep in fantasy hypotheticals can ESPN get before we realize, First Take is running out of material? "Would this player, win a championship, with this team, that had already won a championship, using the same roster?"
    "No" -Max Kellerman (Time Lord)

  • @mitchfricano
    @mitchfricano 4 года назад +3

    It’s funny because they literally have nothing to talk about

  • @zeaferjones1404
    @zeaferjones1404 4 года назад

    Max forgets when Carmelo has a great team and is motivated he does play pretty good defense. Both in 2008 and 2012 Carmelo played great defense.

  • @johnngaruiya5173
    @johnngaruiya5173 4 года назад +3

    Some guys are just not champions; Melo, CP3, Charles Barkley it always seems like something will happen and they don't win, that Larry O'Brian trophy is just allergic to them

    • @ALYoungFuture13
      @ALYoungFuture13 4 года назад

      Dumb comment, Melo would have a Ring Ef Pistons Organization wasn’t Clueless, So Your point automatically invalid

  • @shaneryan6244
    @shaneryan6244 4 года назад

    I always thought max had a cold sore. just found out dude bit an electrical cable when he was a kid and seared his lips together ... lmaoooo

  • @marcusgarvey630
    @marcusgarvey630 4 года назад +13

    Max clearly doesnt know basketball

  • @lsutyga21
    @lsutyga21 4 года назад

    Max is right.... Adding great players doesn't make the team better. They keep bringing up how the Pistons beat the Lakers without Melo, but that Lakers team was the perfect example of Kellerman's argument... Can Stephen A. make a point without yelling?

  • @he8500
    @he8500 4 года назад +4

    Melo won the ncaa so he was good already, he would've provided scoring alongside all those defensive titans at detroit,

  • @BasketballJunkie1324
    @BasketballJunkie1324 4 года назад

    Stephen A. ranting on Max is always high quality TV. hahahaha

  • @KarmaBeats151
    @KarmaBeats151 4 года назад +3

    Melo on that team would’ve been dynastic.

    • @Anthonycheesman33
      @Anthonycheesman33 4 года назад

      Or he would of lost in the first round like he always does

  • @runnin_ramen4869
    @runnin_ramen4869 4 года назад +1

    This is the same stephen A smith, that claimed carmelo would do just fiiiiiiiine in OKC cause he was mature enough to play with 2 other superstars😂😂

  • @northernlight1000
    @northernlight1000 4 года назад +1

    I may be wrong.. but did the pistons not get sheed Wallace in a mid season deal?? I don't see that happening if they draft Carmelo which changes ALOT.. Don't know why no one brought that up