Rosharan murder mystery idea. A person is found with a spanreed stabbed through their heart, and the detective has to figure out who is on the other side.
As an engineer, I find the notion of the perception effects really interesting. Trying to design something as complicated and dangerous as the 4th bridge based on such a fuzzy, potentially unreliable mechanism sounds terrifying.
If perception really is arbitrary. Gravity is hardly deniable, so "down" will be "down". I would love to know what happens if an earthquake hits Urithiru.
@@oneukum I'm pretty sure perception only matters with regards to magical elements of the Cosmere. An earthquake is probably just an earthquake in Roshar, caused by tectonic activity, given that Roshar is made of tectonic plates. I'm not sure if that's something brandon has confirmed or not.
@@carlsmith4568 Brandon has confirmed that there is no tectonic activity on Roshar because the planet and continent were grown for unknown reasons by Adonalsium
I have considered this for a while, I think I understand how the suppression worked. 1. The suppression that the tower uses was designed to stop the Fused. Trying to get enough power to stop unmade was not worth the cost. That is why the Unmade can fight the tower. 2. Oath 3 Radiants and Fused are on the same level. We see this with Kal fighting the heavenly ones. The reasoning being that both Odium and Honor needed these beings that they are supercharging with their investiture to yield to the shard ideal. So, each step up of power requires a new Oath that is supposedly more difficult. Honor's logic is that the proportionate amount of power the being has is inversely proportional to how strict they have to be with their Oaths (not that the first are lenient, but having more than 1 oath compared to 1 is obviously more strict). Odium has a similar thought, except to be more in line with him instead of Oaths. 3. The important bit: Odium didn't have time or was too eager. He found the spot at which he was ok with. Giving X power to someone without ensuring they stay on track. So, Radiants take longer, but they have a higher ceiling than fused. 4. Abilities - The reason that Kal couldn't use gravitation and Lift couldn't become awesome is a 2 parter: A. The design of the suppression is to stop Fused, and Fused only have 1 surge. B. The surges that Kal and Lift lose are the ones that they are most familiar with. Kal uses gravitation much more often and Lift does much more sliding than healing. 5. The suppression still sort of blocks the other, but it is much weaker. I'd guess if you could get a level 1 or 2 radiant awake they wouldn't break through to the second surge.
MY crackpot theory for Suppression fabrials and how Kaladin overcame it: Stormlight (and other invested light) pulses to a specific rhythm. When radiants are using a Surge, (I suspect) they are amplifying particular sections of the waveform to make *stuff* happen. Suppression fabrials work by messing with the waveform, stopping the patterns from playing out correctly; like stones being thrown onto a lake, disrupting the wave patterns on the surface. The reason this knocks radiants out is the messed up pattern is something their brains really struggle to process, so it ends up like neurons firing incorrectly - resulting in a kind of seizure. Really POWERFUL individuals have that pattern deeply ingrained in them, so disruption is harder - dropping stones into the ocean doesn't effect the waves much. That's why Kaladin (and probably Jasnah and Dalinar) was able to stay standing. As for why *Adhesion* specifically works weirdly, maybe the pattern to surge the Stormlight waveform into Adhesion is the exact waveform as Stormlight. If Gravitation is hitting 3 important notes of a C Major Scale, Adhesion is all 8 or something. This would mean that increasing the amplitude of the pattern is much easier, even if someone is disrupting. Kinda like singing a basic scale is easier than a complex song when someone is screaming in your ear.
Surely with enough time they could make it so the ship can be moved by moving a counter weight in a circle instead of a straight line whilst rotating the orientation of the gems appropriately.
Kinda like what navani was saying with windmills! But they're in the conceptual stage of that and they're just planning on using em to recharge the weights
1. If you can repel air, you have a jet engine. 2. It is not force multiplication. It is distance multiplication. The force is minute, you have to overcome only aerodynamic drag.. Force is conserved as far as we know. 3. Building an oathgate would do Odium no good, It has to connect to the network. 4. Powerful spren can make gems: Yelig-Nar
@ 31:17, I find that the easiest way to visualise how the glove works is basically that the weight is dropping down, where down is the front of the glove no matter what. When turned off there's no effect, but when turned on its as if the weight is pulling you in the direction the glove faces because that's now what it considers the direction of gravity.
Yes! Another Shardcast. I gotta say I'm definitely a Huio stan. Also, so impresses you folks are able to break down fabrial mechanics in such a clear way.
I think Raboniel could use her abilities on the pillar room because the protections had failed in that part of the tower. The Midnight mother was squatting there for who knows how long and to me it stands to reason that her presence in that room for so long could deteriorate the protections that far. Just a theory.
I always thought that the spren which "are" a fabrial were kind of the same thing as shardblades. When their Radiant broke the bond, they didn't become a blade, they just manifested as a fabrial.
So, if I remember right, the suppression fabrial not only messed with Stormlight abilities but also suppressed the connection between Stormlight powered knights radiant and their spren (Can't remember if Wydle was affected). My guess is that adhesion was less affected because it is an ability that comes from the human side of the Nahel bond. Since "Honor lives on in the hearts of men", I think that part of the spiritual connection is relatively easier for Kaladin to tap into. This would be one of the possible reasons why the Fused can't use it. An interesting case to prove/disprove this theory would have been if Rlain ever became a Windrunner. Also to answer your other question: Evgeni
Iirc The dagger Navani used to kill Raboniel that was used to kill her daughter. She simply tossed the dagger after killing her daughter and never took it away.
Could the gems in a soulcaster be providing a similar service as gems in individual pieces of shardplate? Stormlight-infused-gem-powered-shardplate is a post-recreance phenomenon, right? Maybe stormlight-infused-gem-powered soulcasters are post-recreance, too? Maybe the housings were originally for the non-deadeye spren's conscious manifestation?
I wonder if we'll see similarities between the AonDor and fabrial cages. Both cases the intricate shape of something directs investiture to do something.
We see ancient fabrials like soulcasters and healing/regrowth fabrials in Dalinar's visions of Aharetiam and such so I would wager hear are pre-recreance. My guess is that they transformed into these fabrials to help out even without a human partner because they couldn't find one or didn't want to go through the pain of losing one when they died etc.
With adhesion working for teft, they specifically say they don’t know how well it would work for each radiant. Remember they had best case plan where the windrunners would climb down until gravitation activated or worse case plan where the would fall down until it activated so they weren’t sure how well it would go for each radiant.
The suppressor works in much the same way Brando described Plate as protecting the wearer from investiture, "super saturation." Being so close to the 4th meant he was more heavily invested than the others. Syl is more deeply entwined with him so it didn't force her away
I wasn't expecting so much discussion on conjoined fabrials. They seem to work on the same principles of sympathetic magic, which exists in dozens of fantasy series, and famously in the Kingkiller Chronicles. Weiry mentioned sympathy, but I thought that would be a bigger part of discussion to simplify it.
1. Soul casters are considered divine artifacts and are normally under control of ardents. 2. We don't know how much Navani has interacted with soulcasters, as opposed to regular fabrials. 3. We never hear that Shallan's soulcaster was successfully repaired. I believe Navani is theorizing about how it might be fixed, but she did not know for sure, and may have been wrong. Because she did not actually know what a soulcaster was, and they don't work like regular fabrials.
The Oathgates having two spren on each platform makes me think maybe you need two spren for Surge fabrials, one of each order's spren. So a Transportation fabrial would need an inkspren and a lightspren, and a Soulcaster would need a Cryptic and an inkspren. And personally I like the theory that they formed during the Recreance. Like maybe after it started, they noticed they become stuck as Blades, and had conversations with their Radiants about how leaving weapons behind like that could be a bad idea, and how they would prefer to become Surge fabrials to serve as more useful items.
So I think the idea that the Sibling was sleeping was a total ruse when Roboniel came in. She was in contact with Navani, and Roboniel stated that she new instantly she was not sleeping or dead once she touched the pillar. She was possibly high enough, like 4th ideal level, that she was able to use her abilities.
I feel like you could make a pair of skywalker boots by having a conjoiner in each with the other half linked to an unmovable anchor on the ground. Just have it connect whenever you step down, somehow.
I think the soulcaster metal is more like shardplate instead of shardblade in terms of durability. I am assuming this because for one the spren don't manifest in the physical realm completely like the radiant bonded spren but are more like lesser spren manifesting only a bit of themselves. Not to mention that they are pretty thin and light like jewellery so they don't have a lot of metal to begin with, which would further weaken them and be easy to break. Fixing them is probably similar to what you would do with shardplate.
As I see it... a fabrial needs 3 parts. A Spren to create an effect; Metal to modulate the effect; And investiture to power the effect. In modern Fabrials, the spren is captured inside a gemstone, a metal cage is built and you infused the gem with Stormlight. In ancient Fabrials, the spren becomes the metal, and you can then place a gem in it with stormlight to power it. To an external observer both have a gem with metal. But while in the modern fabrials the spren is in the gem, making it have the double duty of creating and powering the effect. In ancient fabrials the spren is "in" the metal, having the double duty of creating and modulating the effect, while the gem only powers it.
I assumed the Spanreed 'orientation' simply to mean it has a top/bottom and left/right side. The pen only works on one side of the 'paper' and if you have it upside-down the message will be written backwards or something.
Regarding the orienting for the spanreeds, isn't it just the simple answer? They always place the spanreed in a certain corner of the desk in comparison to the paper, that gives it the proper frame of reference.
Conservation of motion means that the entire setup of paper and pen need to be facing the same direction. If one is facing east and pen is in upper right hand corner then the paper is just southwest of its resting location. And the pair is facing west and the paper is just SE of the resting location. Then the initial motion SW bring the pen to paper means the spanreed would still move SW and that would not be over the paper
@@jharkey3 I agree, and I wonder if the fact that the ruby is affixed to the side of the spanreed also plays a role in it as well. Perhaps a combination of user perception and always having the ruby side of the spanreed a certain way (towards paper, away from paper, North, Stormward?)
@@dwdanko Yeah, a combination would make sense. I've been opposed to the idea the gem orientation alone matters (which I think some suspect). Because otherwise making a reverser would be as trivial as pairing them with the gems facing opposite directions.
I wonder... does Odium have his own truest surge? Because there are 9 brands of fused, but they can't mimic Honor's; that means they either _can_ mimic Cultivation's for some reason, or Odium has his own.
I think soulcasters aren't "true" radiant spren; they're "cousin" Radiant spren; basically, elsecaller/lightweaver Shardplate option 2. The soulcasters were a way for the orders with transformation to "share" their powers with others, the same way windrunners can "share" their Shardplate by getting it to fly over and protect people. This explains why it's so many pieces - because it's made of a bunch of little spren. (It doesn't explain why it's a single figure in the CR - cognitive mumbo jumbo, maybe.) And the different "power levels"/number of modes (1, 3, or 10) depend on what level of oath the Radiant was when they made their sprens into a soulcaster. That's it, that's my theory.
What would happen if a spren bonded a mistborn... and then the spren changed into a bead of metal and let the mistborn burn them? What would happen? There must be a WOB on this, right?
So crackpot here. If you reverse the glove of going: ya'all were saying that whatever direction you point it is the new conjoined direction, and off ya go. What if you reverse the direction of translation so that it points to the glove instead of translating the (whichever) direction to when in that direction? Then place a copy of these at known points, say at each of the silver city (jump?) Plateau points. Attach that to a span reader (reed?) To it and have the other in Urithuru. Combine each of the readers on a map at the corresponding plateaus. Now you have the sending device on a character or object, that tells the receiving part of the glove which direction they are in in relation to the plateaus, a span Reed sending that info to Urithuru, and a map room with each span reader pointing at where they are, which pinpoints, say the fourth bridge on the map. Convoluted? Yeah. But 4th Bridge GPSing time. Or you know, you could just send a message that they're over the hills of such and such town.
With force multiplication I feel like you could really mess up someone's day, by throwing the big gem into a high storm. The small one would be like a bullet or worse. Maybe if you needed some artillery in the west you could use that trick, by throwing the big gem in the storm at the beginning. Just make sure the small one is somewhat aimed at a city. Also do it with like 100 of them and shred the city to pieces.
I thought the Kharbranth Palaneum had stormlight lifts. Whether or not they are ancient in design is unclear, but considering the structure dates back to the Dawnsingers it is possible.
@@jharkey3 when Shallan was running from the Cryptics and sketching them looking down at her as she descended I don't recall there being a parshmen with her in the lift. But that may be because it really isnt relevant to the dramatic action of the scene.
@@ramblingsofgabby Yeah, not sure if they're explicitly mentioned in that scene. I recall them being mentioned a few times though, particularly when Jasnah reveals her research and Shallan notes how common and forgettable they are.
@@jharkey3 I guess my brain jumped to the Palanaeum because of all the buildings weve seen on Roshar if any had ancient fabrial lifts the Palanaeum would be a good candidate. Now I'm trying to remember if Navani was amazed or not when they found fabrial lifts when they discovered Urithiru.
1. Are manifested spren as fabrials still visible in the cognitive realm. 2. If that's the case, how did Jasnah not notice the change of her fake fabrial with a real one that has a spren visible in the cognitive realm. She would have seen it after soulcasting anything. 3. What if the spren manifested as fabrials are manifested onto/over/with a premade metallic structure so they can take the shape needed + maybe the right metals to function the way required? Nice theories as always.
I have just watched the WOB episode where Shardblades were spoken about and where are they all? I have a theory what If Radiants could chose to manifest their Spren in to a Soulcaster alternatively to a Shardblade? we saw a battalion of Windrunners drop their shards what if other orders had the ability to manifest Spren as Soulcasters and chose to give humans these opposed to swords which only destroyed? Discuss...
Very unrelated question but a question popped into my head and I don’t know who else to ask... if someone who identified as a Furry become a knights radiant... would their ideal form be their anthropomorphic persona? I hope this question doesn’t come of as disrespectful or insensitive. Just legitimately curious.
...if I do this thing, this is genuinely the first time it has been pointed out to me. I certainly don't *intend* to put a 'k' into the middle of the word. (Nor do I know if I was even one of the perpetrators.) Then again, I also didn't notice anyone else doing it when we recorded. It might be a "we are talking too fast oops there's an accidental glottal stop oh well moving on" sort of thing.
Rosharan murder mystery idea. A person is found with a spanreed stabbed through their heart, and the detective has to figure out who is on the other side.
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@@KwanzaaJuice I'd be thrilled to do so.
As an engineer, I find the notion of the perception effects really interesting. Trying to design something as complicated and dangerous as the 4th bridge based on such a fuzzy, potentially unreliable mechanism sounds terrifying.
im morbidly curious as to if there were any "osha" like violations during the creation of the 4th bridge.
If perception really is arbitrary. Gravity is hardly deniable, so "down" will be "down". I would love to know what happens if an earthquake hits Urithiru.
@@oneukum I'm pretty sure perception only matters with regards to magical elements of the Cosmere. An earthquake is probably just an earthquake in Roshar, caused by tectonic activity, given that Roshar is made of tectonic plates. I'm not sure if that's something brandon has confirmed or not.
@@carlsmith4568 Brandon has confirmed that there is no tectonic activity on Roshar because the planet and continent were grown for unknown reasons by Adonalsium
I have considered this for a while, I think I understand how the suppression worked.
1. The suppression that the tower uses was designed to stop the Fused. Trying to get enough power to stop unmade was not worth the cost. That is why the Unmade can fight the tower.
2. Oath 3 Radiants and Fused are on the same level. We see this with Kal fighting the heavenly ones. The reasoning being that both Odium and Honor needed these beings that they are supercharging with their investiture to yield to the shard ideal. So, each step up of power requires a new Oath that is supposedly more difficult. Honor's logic is that the proportionate amount of power the being has is inversely proportional to how strict they have to be with their Oaths (not that the first are lenient, but having more than 1 oath compared to 1 is obviously more strict). Odium has a similar thought, except to be more in line with him instead of Oaths.
3. The important bit: Odium didn't have time or was too eager. He found the spot at which he was ok with. Giving X power to someone without ensuring they stay on track. So, Radiants take longer, but they have a higher ceiling than fused.
4. Abilities - The reason that Kal couldn't use gravitation and Lift couldn't become awesome is a 2 parter: A. The design of the suppression is to stop Fused, and Fused only have 1 surge. B. The surges that Kal and Lift lose are the ones that they are most familiar with. Kal uses gravitation much more often and Lift does much more sliding than healing.
5. The suppression still sort of blocks the other, but it is much weaker. I'd guess if you could get a level 1 or 2 radiant awake they wouldn't break through to the second surge.
MY crackpot theory for Suppression fabrials and how Kaladin overcame it:
Stormlight (and other invested light) pulses to a specific rhythm. When radiants are using a Surge, (I suspect) they are amplifying particular sections of the waveform to make *stuff* happen. Suppression fabrials work by messing with the waveform, stopping the patterns from playing out correctly; like stones being thrown onto a lake, disrupting the wave patterns on the surface. The reason this knocks radiants out is the messed up pattern is something their brains really struggle to process, so it ends up like neurons firing incorrectly - resulting in a kind of seizure.
Really POWERFUL individuals have that pattern deeply ingrained in them, so disruption is harder - dropping stones into the ocean doesn't effect the waves much. That's why Kaladin (and probably Jasnah and Dalinar) was able to stay standing.
As for why *Adhesion* specifically works weirdly, maybe the pattern to surge the Stormlight waveform into Adhesion is the exact waveform as Stormlight. If Gravitation is hitting 3 important notes of a C Major Scale, Adhesion is all 8 or something. This would mean that increasing the amplitude of the pattern is much easier, even if someone is disrupting. Kinda like singing a basic scale is easier than a complex song when someone is screaming in your ear.
Surely with enough time they could make it so the ship can be moved by moving a counter weight in a circle instead of a straight line whilst rotating the orientation of the gems appropriately.
Kinda like what navani was saying with windmills! But they're in the conceptual stage of that and they're just planning on using em to recharge the weights
Attach it to a waterwheel or windmill
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1. If you can repel air, you have a jet engine.
2. It is not force multiplication. It is distance multiplication. The force is minute, you have to overcome only aerodynamic drag.. Force is conserved as far as we know.
3. Building an oathgate would do Odium no good, It has to connect to the network.
4. Powerful spren can make gems: Yelig-Nar
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The reference frame discussions while working on my general relativity and tensor calc homework, this is fantastic!
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@ 31:17, I find that the easiest way to visualise how the glove works is basically that the weight is dropping down, where down is the front of the glove no matter what. When turned off there's no effect, but when turned on its as if the weight is pulling you in the direction the glove faces because that's now what it considers the direction of gravity.
I love that GPS tracking idea using the big and little gems.
"Shallan talk to Jasnah and do some soulcasting". I think we were told that she did and still could not soulcast
Yes! Another Shardcast. I gotta say I'm definitely a Huio stan. Also, so impresses you folks are able to break down fabrial mechanics in such a clear way.
I think Raboniel could use her abilities on the pillar room because the protections had failed in that part of the tower. The Midnight mother was squatting there for who knows how long and to me it stands to reason that her presence in that room for so long could deteriorate the protections that far. Just a theory.
I always thought that the spren which "are" a fabrial were kind of the same thing as shardblades. When their Radiant broke the bond, they didn't become a blade, they just manifested as a fabrial.
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I've been waiting eagerly for this!
So, if I remember right, the suppression fabrial not only messed with Stormlight abilities but also suppressed the connection between Stormlight powered knights radiant and their spren (Can't remember if Wydle was affected). My guess is that adhesion was less affected because it is an ability that comes from the human side of the Nahel bond. Since "Honor lives on in the hearts of men", I think that part of the spiritual connection is relatively easier for Kaladin to tap into. This would be one of the possible reasons why the Fused can't use it. An interesting case to prove/disprove this theory would have been if Rlain ever became a Windrunner. Also to answer your other question: Evgeni
Iirc The dagger Navani used to kill Raboniel that was used to kill her daughter. She simply tossed the dagger after killing her daughter and never took it away.
Kaladin was able to overcome the suppression fabrial because he was going to overcome the suppression fabrial.
Could the gems in a soulcaster be providing a similar service as gems in individual pieces of shardplate? Stormlight-infused-gem-powered-shardplate is a post-recreance phenomenon, right? Maybe stormlight-infused-gem-powered soulcasters are post-recreance, too? Maybe the housings were originally for the non-deadeye spren's conscious manifestation?
I wonder if we'll see similarities between the AonDor and fabrial cages. Both cases the intricate shape of something directs investiture to do something.
Whiskey show and tell is always fun
We see ancient fabrials like soulcasters and healing/regrowth fabrials in Dalinar's visions of Aharetiam and such so I would wager hear are pre-recreance. My guess is that they transformed into these fabrials to help out even without a human partner because they couldn't find one or didn't want to go through the pain of losing one when they died etc.
With adhesion working for teft, they specifically say they don’t know how well it would work for each radiant. Remember they had best case plan where the windrunners would climb down until gravitation activated or worse case plan where the would fall down until it activated so they weren’t sure how well it would go for each radiant.
Commenting for the algo and because this was a good chat. Looking forward to finding out wtf soulcasters actually are (if we do).
Last video made me read dawnshard (which i had skipped), glad I did with this episode
The suppressor works in much the same way Brando described Plate as protecting the wearer from investiture, "super saturation." Being so close to the 4th meant he was more heavily invested than the others. Syl is more deeply entwined with him so it didn't force her away
As an aerospace engineer who just finished RoW... I have many, many thoughts on building fabrial aircraft.
I wasn't expecting so much discussion on conjoined fabrials. They seem to work on the same principles of sympathetic magic, which exists in dozens of fantasy series, and famously in the Kingkiller Chronicles. Weiry mentioned sympathy, but I thought that would be a bigger part of discussion to simplify it.
Yay for woodford reserve!
1. Soul casters are considered divine artifacts and are normally under control of ardents.
2. We don't know how much Navani has interacted with soulcasters, as opposed to regular fabrials.
3. We never hear that Shallan's soulcaster was successfully repaired.
I believe Navani is theorizing about how it might be fixed, but she did not know for sure, and may have been wrong. Because she did not actually know what a soulcaster was, and they don't work like regular fabrials.
The Oathgates having two spren on each platform makes me think maybe you need two spren for Surge fabrials, one of each order's spren. So a Transportation fabrial would need an inkspren and a lightspren, and a Soulcaster would need a Cryptic and an inkspren. And personally I like the theory that they formed during the Recreance. Like maybe after it started, they noticed they become stuck as Blades, and had conversations with their Radiants about how leaving weapons behind like that could be a bad idea, and how they would prefer to become Surge fabrials to serve as more useful items.
Whether or not we can trust these is another matter, but Dalinar sees a regrowth fabrial in a vision that is pre recreance
So I think the idea that the Sibling was sleeping was a total ruse when Roboniel came in. She was in contact with Navani, and Roboniel stated that she new instantly she was not sleeping or dead once she touched the pillar. She was possibly high enough, like 4th ideal level, that she was able to use her abilities.
Very informative!
I feel like you could make a pair of skywalker boots by having a conjoiner in each with the other half linked to an unmovable anchor on the ground. Just have it connect whenever you step down, somehow.
I think the soulcaster metal is more like shardplate instead of shardblade in terms of durability. I am assuming this because for one the spren don't manifest in the physical realm completely like the radiant bonded spren but are more like lesser spren manifesting only a bit of themselves. Not to mention that they are pretty thin and light like jewellery so they don't have a lot of metal to begin with, which would further weaken them and be easy to break. Fixing them is probably similar to what you would do with shardplate.
As I see it... a fabrial needs 3 parts. A Spren to create an effect; Metal to modulate the effect; And investiture to power the effect.
In modern Fabrials, the spren is captured inside a gemstone, a metal cage is built and you infused the gem with Stormlight. In ancient Fabrials, the spren becomes the metal, and you can then place a gem in it with stormlight to power it.
To an external observer both have a gem with metal. But while in the modern fabrials the spren is in the gem, making it have the double duty of creating and powering the effect. In ancient fabrials the spren is "in" the metal, having the double duty of creating and modulating the effect, while the gem only powers it.
I assumed the Spanreed 'orientation' simply to mean it has a top/bottom and left/right side. The pen only works on one side of the 'paper' and if you have it upside-down the message will be written backwards or something.
Regarding the orienting for the spanreeds, isn't it just the simple answer? They always place the spanreed in a certain corner of the desk in comparison to the paper, that gives it the proper frame of reference.
Conservation of motion means that the entire setup of paper and pen need to be facing the same direction. If one is facing east and pen is in upper right hand corner then the paper is just southwest of its resting location. And the pair is facing west and the paper is just SE of the resting location. Then the initial motion SW bring the pen to paper means the spanreed would still move SW and that would not be over the paper
There's nothing magical about the boards though, so it has to be tied to the user's perception.
@@jharkey3 I agree, and I wonder if the fact that the ruby is affixed to the side of the spanreed also plays a role in it as well. Perhaps a combination of user perception and always having the ruby side of the spanreed a certain way (towards paper, away from paper, North, Stormward?)
@@dwdanko Yeah, a combination would make sense. I've been opposed to the idea the gem orientation alone matters (which I think some suspect). Because otherwise making a reverser would be as trivial as pairing them with the gems facing opposite directions.
loving the beard Ian haha
Span cups will probably be their first radios. like cups on a string but replace the string with gems
I wonder... does Odium have his own truest surge? Because there are 9 brands of fused, but they can't mimic Honor's; that means they either _can_ mimic Cultivation's for some reason, or Odium has his own.
I think soulcasters aren't "true" radiant spren; they're "cousin" Radiant spren; basically, elsecaller/lightweaver Shardplate option 2.
The soulcasters were a way for the orders with transformation to "share" their powers with others, the same way windrunners can "share" their Shardplate by getting it to fly over and protect people.
This explains why it's so many pieces - because it's made of a bunch of little spren. (It doesn't explain why it's a single figure in the CR - cognitive mumbo jumbo, maybe.)
And the different "power levels"/number of modes (1, 3, or 10) depend on what level of oath the Radiant was when they made their sprens into a soulcaster.
That's it, that's my theory.
What would happen if a spren bonded a mistborn... and then the spren changed into a bead of metal and let the mistborn burn them? What would happen? There must be a WOB on this, right?
The WOB is probably a RAFO
So crackpot here.
If you reverse the glove of going: ya'all were saying that whatever direction you point it is the new conjoined direction, and off ya go. What if you reverse the direction of translation so that it points to the glove instead of translating the (whichever) direction to when in that direction?
Then place a copy of these at known points, say at each of the silver city (jump?) Plateau points. Attach that to a span reader (reed?) To it and have the other in Urithuru.
Combine each of the readers on a map at the corresponding plateaus.
Now you have the sending device on a character or object, that tells the receiving part of the glove which direction they are in in relation to the plateaus, a span Reed sending that info to Urithuru, and a map room with each span reader pointing at where they are, which pinpoints, say the fourth bridge on the map.
Convoluted? Yeah. But 4th Bridge GPSing time. Or you know, you could just send a message that they're over the hills of such and such town.
With force multiplication I feel like you could really mess up someone's day, by throwing the big gem into a high storm. The small one would be like a bullet or worse. Maybe if you needed some artillery in the west you could use that trick, by throwing the big gem in the storm at the beginning. Just make sure the small one is somewhat aimed at a city. Also do it with like 100 of them and shred the city to pieces.
The secret doors in the tower used stormlight to open didn't they? So at least some of the original fabriels used both stormlight and tower light
I thought the Kharbranth Palaneum had stormlight lifts. Whether or not they are ancient in design is unclear, but considering the structure dates back to the Dawnsingers it is possible.
There were parshmen who drove those lifts, if I remember correctly.
You mean in TWoK or on the distant past? In TWoK they were operated by parshmen.
@@jharkey3 when Shallan was running from the Cryptics and sketching them looking down at her as she descended I don't recall there being a parshmen with her in the lift. But that may be because it really isnt relevant to the dramatic action of the scene.
@@ramblingsofgabby Yeah, not sure if they're explicitly mentioned in that scene. I recall them being mentioned a few times though, particularly when Jasnah reveals her research and Shallan notes how common and forgettable they are.
@@jharkey3 I guess my brain jumped to the Palanaeum because of all the buildings weve seen on Roshar if any had ancient fabrial lifts the Palanaeum would be a good candidate. Now I'm trying to remember if Navani was amazed or not when they found fabrial lifts when they discovered Urithiru.
I think for old soulcasters what matters is the idea of the soulcaster and not the physical device.
1. Are manifested spren as fabrials still visible in the cognitive realm.
2. If that's the case, how did Jasnah not notice the change of her fake fabrial with a real one that has a spren visible in the cognitive realm. She would have seen it after soulcasting anything.
3. What if the spren manifested as fabrials are manifested onto/over/with a premade metallic structure so they can take the shape needed + maybe the right metals to function the way required?
Nice theories as always.
Do we actually know that the spren which make soulcasters are Radiant Spren? Couldn't they be other sapient spren?
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Crackhead theory: Shallan's broken soulcaster is her old Cryptic.
(And anybody but Argent ofc 🤪)
Lift overcame the suppressor with gumption and spit
I have just watched the WOB episode where Shardblades were spoken about and where are they all? I have a theory what If Radiants could chose to manifest their Spren in to a Soulcaster alternatively to a Shardblade? we saw a battalion of Windrunners drop their shards what if other orders had the ability to manifest Spren as Soulcasters and chose to give humans these opposed to swords which only destroyed? Discuss...
Marvin in a Wig for favourite with long hair and facial hair :P
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Not Evgeni
Sorry but I got to say these last two videos have left me more confused then i was before
Very unrelated question but a question popped into my head and I don’t know who else to ask... if someone who identified as a Furry become a knights radiant... would their ideal form be their anthropomorphic persona? I hope this question doesn’t come of as disrespectful or insensitive. Just legitimately curious.
You're gonna have to get that question to Brandon lol
Still need to read dawnshard. Here is a comment for the algo. I'll be back.
People on this episode keep pronouncing "ancient" as "ankshient", is that an actual regional pronunciation?
...if I do this thing, this is genuinely the first time it has been pointed out to me. I certainly don't *intend* to put a 'k' into the middle of the word. (Nor do I know if I was even one of the perpetrators.)
Then again, I also didn't notice anyone else doing it when we recorded. It might be a "we are talking too fast oops there's an accidental glottal stop oh well moving on" sort of thing.
Navani and Jasnah are royals, not noble.
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