Nintendo Reveals What Happened to the Divine Beasts in Tears of the Kingdom!
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- Опубликовано: 9 окт 2023
- The Answer to the absence of the Divine Beasts and Sheikah Technology in Tears of the Kingdom is a LOT simpler than you would think...
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Most people first thought arriving in rito village was " wow how did all this snow get here". My first thought was "where the heck is medoh?".
Transmogrified into boat lmao
“No one who has tried to explore the matter further.” Purah deadass slept on this strange phenomenon for her mommy elixir. 💀
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Zelda literally wanted to investigate vah ruta malfunctioning but yeah ok even though it's her hobby and she's curious about everything she didn't want to investigate it. Sure. Ugh
@@kit76149 Fujibayashi got lazy and mary sue'd the sheikah tech out of the picture. Trust me, I'm disappointed as well
@@frederickglass1583 Hopefully he/they won't do the same with the Zonai technology by the next big Zelda game otherwise they're blatantly prooving the Zelda franchise has no real narrative focus whatsoever.
I’d say her priorities were in order.
The Shrine of Resurrection is the strangest change in TotK. It was as if it was stripped of its tech, leaving only the cave behind. It would have made more sense if the shrine was covered with rocks.
The hollowing would still be there, and if you actually take a look what is UNDER that area in the depths, you'll discover something interesting!
The shiekah tech in the CoR just evaporated into thin air like everything else. After that, it's just a barren cave left to the elements until TOTK happens
When I first played BOTW, I absolutely loved seeing the Divine Beasts moving around in the distance. I'm a sucker for kaiju and other giant beings. They gave an unforgettable atmosphere to the game.
Same, the only thing close to this is seeing the stormwind ark in the distance
It all vanished mysteriously? Well why didn't the Guardian atop the Hateno Ancient Tech Lab also disappear? Where did Purah get the guardian legs and Sheikah Slate pedestals for the Skyview Towers? Why are She, Josha, Robbie and Zelda investigating the disappearance? Zelda's passion is researching Ancient Sheikah tech and it's literally the other 3's job.
This ^
It’s a lazy way to get rid of it, totk was originally supposed to be dlc to botw not a game of its own so they essentially just crammed a bunch of shit in and didn’t try to explain it
I can imagine that there is somewhere a Sheikah warehouse subspace where all the tech is programmed to teleport to when the calamity is over.
Sitting by the Ark in the warehouse. 😂
There’s one major flaw with this explanation by the developers:
If the Sheikah tech simply vanished after Calamity Ganon’s defeat in BotW, why didn’t it disappear after its defeat 10,000+ years ago?
maybe it only reappears when the calamity happens
@@IcecoldWaluigi yeah but then why is there still some sheika tech in totk
My theory is that Zelda actually DESTROYED the calamity, instead of just sealing it. In the ancient times, it was sealed, but not destroyed. Now it was ACTUALLY DESTROYED.
the better definition would be that they all got rid of the sheikah tech because it was manipulated by ganon eg guardians. maybe thats why they abandoned this technology
It makes sense, but it’s kinda lame that they don’t tell us that in the game. Another thing that bothered me is how certain characters don’t put two and two together and say Link is the bodyguard of Zelda. Like I understand a lot of Npcs recognize him, it just bothers me about other characters for in game reasons.
For example, Link isn’t credited by Hudson for literally having the funds and materials for building his own city. Yes him and his wife are grateful for him for putting them together and all that, but it seems like every citizen or someone who is related to Hudson, gives Hudson the credit instead of Link who provided the materials. It just bothers me. Especially an Npc at the field, next to the city, that is annoyed that Link is on the field with everyone, not knowing all he did. My apologies for the rant, certain Npc’s annoyed me when I played the game. Also I forgot the names of certain Npcs due to not playing the game in months. I beat it with about 325 hrs.
There’s other things I could say, but it’ll be an even longer comment
Nintendo omega lacking when it comes to immersion.
I had similar thoughts on that as well. Everyone in Tarry Town should be familiar with Link for all that he's done.
The link as zelda's bodyguard i get, I mean the people who should know, like certain gaurdsmen or people who worked with Zelda know, but random people wouldn't and don't have a reason to. I mean, in real life, many famous, royal and presidential people have body gaurds that the public just sees as a bodyguard, nothing more.
The other point about Hudson though, yeah that's unfortunate. It makes Hudson seem like an ungreatful person, which I don't think he's supposed to be. And no one remembers link for all his work? And the people who did remember isn't asking why link isn't credited? I guess the devs didn't think about that, maybe.
@@zupasha I feel a key reason as to why no one points out Link's many contributions back in Breath of the Wild was due to "inmersion" given how making Link a famous character from the get go would force most NPCs in the entire gameworld to constantly refer to him in reverence and respect with little opportunity for conversations to be natural between them and Link so as to make the experience of travelling in this new Hyrule feel just as similar as in Breath of the Wild.
For the sake of keeping the same narrative "feel" as in Breath of the Wild Nintendo kept Link's anonimity to almost 90% so as to keep interactions with NPCs as simple and straightforward as possible.
Nintendo did something weird with Tears of The Kingdom.
It's like they wanted it to be both the sequel to BotW and a completely separate game at the same time XD
I'm gonna say they just disappeared like the glider piece in Tears does once you use it for a certain ammount of time after you use it.
still feels like lazy writing to me....
@@frederickglass1583 It is a modern Zelda game
wait what glider pieces u talking about
The Vah Ruta detail is actually really cool and makes complete sense to me. The Sheikah tech had finally fulfilled its purpose and started fading away. Monks also fade away when fulfilling their duty of empowering the hero. A lot of people are super pissed at this explanation but to me it’s just fine lol.
WHY DOES MAN MADE METAL JUST FADE AWAY?!
@@DGenHero Because it’s Zelda lol? Doesn’t the Sheikah Slate turn into blue goop and teleport?
@@DGenHeroIt’s man made. The Shekiah programmed it to last, and also programmed it to leave when it’s work was done. Simple as that
That’s exactly how I feel too.
@@brycerodriguez244 then why ddint the shekiah disappear after the calamity? when they sealed away ganon the first time.
This reminds me of "Somehow Palpatine returned"
LMAO
I hate this comparison because I hate how accurate it actually is
"Somehow nobody remembers Link"
They disappeared after fulfilling their mission to protect the Kingdom, leaving them unprotected in the face of a much worse threat... What good service. I was being sarcastic.
That being said, nobody knew the "much worse threat" existed until TOTK.
To Be Fair, when they were constructed and all the way up until the Upheavel, no one alive knew about Ganondorf
@@HMK Even so. The Response of "They just disappeared and no one cares" seems a bit lazy to me. I still believe that a better answer would have been that the Red Malice Consumed them or that they simply buried themselves in the ground again.
@@yairiscapellan4874 Or that Zelda, Purah and Robbie repurposed them all into the new towers as many liked to believe before Fujibayashi gave his answer.
"Let me know what you think"
Well, since you asked.. I think it's emblematic of why I dislike the Zelda series going more open world in general. The stories in Zelda have never been the main focus, as you said, but the linear games at least felt like they had good continuity between sequels and the timeline made fairly obvious sense. BotW and Tears feel like the story was pushed so far back in the list of priorities you may as well not worry about the story at all and just treat it as a sandbox with a bit of context, and after enjoying the Oracle of Ages/Seasons as my first Zeldas and enjoying what Skyward Sword added to the timeline I'm pretty disappointed that we're at the point where a direct sequel to the most recent game has what was a critical plot element in the story handwaved with something like "the magi-tech knew its story relevance was over so it all disappeared".
Unless the sheikah themselves programmed it to work that way, which i doubt cause why didnt they disappear after the first time they were used, then this is a pretty nothing answer
My answer as to why they didn't dissapear during the first Great Calamity was because both the Monks and tech knew that Calamity Ganon was still alive after been sealed the first which is why they remained in "stand by" until a future Hero and Princess permanently defeated it for good. With the current Zelda finally vanquishing the Calamity for good both the Divine Beasts and tech realized they would no longer be needed again leading to them "vanishing from existence". Hopefully that won't happen with the Zonai tech now that Ganondorf has been defeated for good haha.
Did you notice how the Champions and King Rhoam’s ghosts have flames on them? I think this is to symbolize that once their promise is fulfilled, they burn away. This is further shown when Rauru doesn’t have flames on him, because he didn’t have a specific purpose. He left because he wanted to, not because he didn’t have a choice
@@brycerodriguez244 The flames are also a reference to the Poe ghosts from the 3D Era of Zelda games which in all their appeareances in Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, The Wind Waker and Twilight Princess carried a *lantern* with a lit flame inside representative of their _soul._ Nintendo added the flames to Rhoam and the Champions's spirits as a reference to the Poes's flames and so the fact that they no longer walked amongst the living as physical beings but rather as lingering ghosts waiting to fulfill the purpose they couldn't achieve in life before finally passing into the Afterlife.
The tech seems to be powered by Ganondorf's Gloom. The Shiekah in the Distant Past knew that he was destined to rise again, so in the meantime I'm thinking that they programmed most of the tech to self-destruct once it lost power from the siphoned energy. We do hear about Dorephan fighting a stray Guardian that shouldn't have been powered up before Link's revival, so perhaps with enough interference blocking the signal from the Central Command unit they can ignore commands.
It’s not a bad explanation, it fits within how other weird events have happened in hyrule. But I must say this is one the rare times in Zelda game where the map layouts from its previous game are mostly intact in its sequel. I can only recall another game doing this. I think Pokemon gold/silver had the map of kanto repurposed again.
Remmant of Twilight from Hyrule Warriors playing in the background, nice. Always happy to see that game get referenced.
The towers and shrines went back underground, and they repurposed the Guardians to create the new towers and tech.
There, a more PLAUSIBLE answer.
this is super disappointing to me and the other zelda fans i execpted the sheikah tech to bury itself back underground untill the next calamity but... sheikah technology is known to have teleporting abilites so mabye it all teleported into thin air..?
I hope they make a DLC, and make a hidden flashback with Zelda explaining how the Sheika tech disapear when she was going to meet the Divine Beast and was trying to understand the mystery of it since she IS the one that try to understand the tech more than anyone. Than she discover the new cave under the castle and then the game start.
Well they would of been a great help against dragon ganon but now seeing that it makes sense I just hope they make a dlc that involves the 3 dragons
I just assumed that they had dismanteled all the tech so that it could not be used against them if calamity ganon ever came back.
Sounds interesting but I have my doubts.
Some of the tech was repurpoused. The skyview towers are made from the shrine elevators and guardian parts. Why didn't those disappear?
My guess is that only the divine beasts disappeared
(the launch platform in the skyview tower have the same design as the divine beast warp pad but they are diferent size and there are more of them so they can't be the same)
While some shrines and towers where dismantled or maybe sunk back down the earth, others like the ones on the great plateau could have been preserved as memorials of the victory against the calamity. And Ganondorf atacked the remaining shrines in the upheaval since they could be used against him. Leaving chasms in their place.
I dont like this. That said, it does work. Ruta was malfunctioning because the tech was about to disappear. The shrine of resurrection is totally stripped, and it would have been easier for them just to leave it alone or block it off. And it explains why we have a Purah Pad; Purah IS trying to reverse engineer the old tech because its all gone.
So I dislike it, but I think its consistent
Kind of figured this would be the case and I’m honestly fine with it. I do wish that it was mentioned in either Zelda or Purah’s diary though
I know a lot was removed in the game even the triforce itself...every zelda game including the spin-offs always mentioned or obtaining the triforce, however TOTK that doesn't even exist in any way except on the flags but nothing else. Just the light magic that zelda has and sadly doesn't look as strong compared to her BOTW light power
The problem I have is that even if everyone excavated them for materials or whatever, that is still an absolute enourmous amount of that limestone-type material they have. At least 120 shrines (Idk if the DLC ones are cannon), 15 Towers, the whole Shrine of Ressurection + the elevator and mini divine beast, the 4 divine beasts, the entire Monk Maz Koshia platform, maybe the trial of the sword area (that may not even exist technically), and of course every single guardian:
46 Guardian Stalkers
29 Guardian Skywatchers
20 Guardian Turrets
55 Decayed Guardians
18 Sentries (found around Divine Beast Vah Rudania)
3 Guardian Skywatchers and 1 Guardian Turret in the Champion's Ballad (may or may not be cannon)
367 Dead Guardians that can be looted, or that are just for decoration
That is an absolutely gargantuan amount of materials, and the game is telling us that they only made 15 tiny skyview towers in totk? The could easily have rebuilt so many towns and aspects of civilization with that material. Even if it took them all the time between BotW and TotK to excavate all of it, then where the hell is all of it?
Even if it dissolved into the ground or something after having "fulfilled its purpose", surely we would see some kind of impact of that in the areas where they used to be (e.g. slight sheikah limestone material ((idk what it's called)) littered on the ground where things like towers and shrines used to be). But if this happened to the Divine Beasts, wouldn't that cause some problems? Medoh would just rain material on Rito Village, for example.
If they really just disapeared though, they should have at least talked about it in game more. There was absolutely no reason not too. I get the devs didn't want the game to "feel like BotW again", but come on, that is literally just bridging the gap between games. They bothered to leave one guardian over in hateno ffs, isn't that more of "feeling like BotW" by their logic?
Sorry to go on this rant, but I just feel like more could have easily been done about this. Thx for reading :P
So for me, the issue is... Is that really the best they could come up with? That's such a cop out answer. There's no context or reference to this in game. It's really hand wavy and lame.
This right here. I wish they showed it happening instead of just dropping this in an interview.
I haven’t finished the game (one temple left to go) and yeah it’s disappointing that I haven’t really seen too many verbal references to anything about BOTW. It really is hand wavy, but I feel like they simply don’t think that deep about this stuff. It wouldn’t have been too difficult for them to have an NPC at least reference their disappearance but I guess they just like to be vague so we can fill in the holes for them concerning story
One of the quests was to teach school children about Calamity Ganon they could have mentioned during that quest the Sheikah technology magically disappeared.
It’s not the best that they could come up with, but they literally just don’t care enough about it to come up with something better.
@@mrbiscuits001 I feel like that’s probably the reason behind a lot of the dumb writing choices in this game.
I had this an idea, and was hoping they'd confirm it, but after all the stuff they leave open ended with TotK I honestly didn't think they would, let alone so soon.
I figured they'd probably just disappeared because unlike the guardians and divine beast which contributed to the downfall of Hyrule and I could see why they would decommision them, I can't see Hyrule dismantling the Shrines simply just for materials considering how much effort it would take and specifically with the Shrine of resurrection, how useful it is. And with the Shrine of Resurrection we even see the cavity it left behind and that alone kinda confirmed for me that there's no way they took it apart, rather it fizzled and faded away like the Monks did
isn't this kinda heavily contradicted by the final lines of BOTW? about going to see the divine beast after the ganon beasts fall though :/ wouldn't both happen at the dame time in that case like in the past? it was still there just stopped working Zelda said
Maybe they began to vanish at a slow pace with the Beasts at first deactivating before eventually disappearing as time passed by. For all we know when Link and Zelda arrived at Zora's Domain Ruta had already vanished hence why neither Zelda or anyone in Zora's Domain has anything to say pertaining Ruta by the time of Tears of the Kingdom.
“No one has explored the matter further” yeah the devs just straight up don’t care lmao 💀
The explanation for the sheikah tech not disappearing at the 10k calamity is in my opinion that the castle wasn’t damaged. We know from Gannondorfs character profile that the reason Rauru’s seal was weakened was because the castle was damaged in the 100 year old calamity. So with this and the fact that hyrule was prepared for the 10k calamity the reason is that the castle wasn’t damaged in the 10k calamity and the seal wasn’t weakened meaning that the seal would hold and that another calamity would be formed. Because the castle WAS damaged in the 100 year calamity this meant that the seal’s time was limited and thus there wouldn’t be another calamity thus causing the shiekah tech to disappear as it fulfilled it’s purpose.
This implies all of the tech had an almost god-like awareness of it's environment if it was capable of knowing that the castle Seal was disruped by the lattest Calamity leading to them vanishing as a result. Makes me wonder if the Shrines, Towers and Divine Beasts were all part of an artificial intelligence "hive mind" which somehow had the awareness to detect the current state of the Seal.
@@javiervasquez625 it would make sense considering the sheikahs connections to the Goddess Hylia.
@@mrbiscuits001 And yet funnily enough none of the Guardians in Breath of the Wild show the level of intelligence as the Zonai Constructs do in Tears of the Kingdom implying the Sheikah never reached the same level of technology as the Zonai did in regards to artificial intelligence.
@@javiervasquez625 maybe. Tbf to the shiekah, the gaurdians were bred for war so it would make sense not to give them to much intelligence. We also see this with the fact that the warrior constructs don’t seem to think, they just look and kill. Like terminators.
@@mrbiscuits001 Reasonable although it's a bit of a headscratcher that Zelda, Purah and Robbie never saw the practical use in reverse engineering the Guardians's AI to build non-violent "constructor robots" that would help clean up all the destruction left after the end of the Great Calamity. Lookout Landing alone could have been filled with small robot workers like the Ancient Robots from Skyward Sword for the simple purpose of delivering materials and help rebuild the kingdom.
so that shiekah monk just teleport everything away
What I thought happened was that after the calamity, the guardians were far too dangerous to keep around because they might turn against hyrule again, so they repurposed them into the Skyview towers and other more modern sheikah tech. The shrines also would’ve been dismantled to make other technology and the towers would’ve likely sunk back into the ground. As for the divine beasts, I think it would’ve made sense for them to be buried again.
Yeah, bro. That's a pretty lame hand wave that comes off as some BS he thought up on the spot with no prior thought put into it.
It's easy enough to pinpoint the amount of time that passed between BotW and TotK from Mattison's likely age. Around 7 years.
My theory of the missing Shiekah tech was pretty mundane.
Fact #1 - Hyrule has been terrorized by Sheikah tech for 100 years or so.
Fact #2 - Reconstruction efforts have only recently begun in earnest.
Fact #3 - The only new construction done during the last 7 years that was not in response to the upheaval were, a school, a memorial for Princess Mipha, and the Calamity memorial stones.
Fact #4 - Almost all the Shiekah tech is gone with evidence that some of it was repurposed for the Skyview Towers.
My theory is simply that most of it was dismantled for fear of a future Calamity taking it over again.
It fits perfectly with how little actual reconstruction has happened during the time skip.
Let us not forget that the Sheikah tech did indeed go into hiding after the calamity was stopped 10000 years ago, as they had to dig up the tech prior to breath of the wild. So yeah, the teck just went underground again, and the few tech that was still above land, was recycled into the towers
They were erased by the Zonai timeline.
would have been sick if somewhere in the depths all the sheikah tech was thrown down there and u could explore dismantled devine beasts and stuff. imagine a graveyard of guardians and stuff
sounds like a "we added in a calamity killer set of beasts and then took them out to artificially drive up the stakes against Gannon to make Link seem more capable this time..."
Sorry but Nintendo is sometimes simply annoyin me. So all Shiekah tech decided to vanish except the parts that were repurposed in the towers and the poor chap left on the ancient lab? Very convenient... They could have easily explained all the changes to the sheikah shrine or towers and surrounding landscape to Zeldas timetravel or Ganondaddys return. For a direct sequel it pretty much ignores the precursor.
Zelda actually says before the Dark Beast Ganon fight
"He has given up on reincarnation and assumed his pure enranged form" which means Calamitt Ganon will not be reincarnated which means the sheikah technology will disappear.
If it just “disappeared” why are there still remnants? The guardian on top of Hateno Ancient Tech Lab is still there. And so are many guardian heads there too.
Is it a cop out yes, do I mind no. Totk was meant to be a new game about new things, it started off as an add on to botw hence the same surface map but they clearly took extra time to make a whole new story and so on. It’s a sequel in the same way many other Zelda games are and they also don’t reference other games usually. Though it is in the same life of a link it’s fine not to explain to link or make people in game obsess over what happened however many years ago.
2:12 maybe it went back down into the ground like the opposite of how it rose up?? or got buried like the gerudo beast in botw when they excavated it
I think they disappeared like the monks did in shrines after the calamity was TRULY defeated, and I think it's possible they could reappear during other big threats. Yeah they didn't reappear in totk to fight the last boss but I'm pretty sure they can appear again to fight another threat. Like not as in dragons or things like that like programmed to help kill calamities. Just my opinion btw!
They could have just said Ganondorf's gloom destoryed them so they wouldn't help Link again.
Cool, haven't gotten the game yet but plan to soon, cant wait.
So, the Divine Beasts and the other forms of Sheikah Technology all stopped working and disappeared into nothingness because "they honestly thought that Calamity Ganon was gone forever and their purpose was fulfilled" without sensing nor realizing that THE Ganondorf himself was still around and existing deep within the undercaverns of Hyrule itself? HOW?
tbh it would be cool like if u got a dlc or sum there would be a puzzle in the depths that was related to the past botw divine beasts and solving it would lead you into a secret way and seeing a ruin of the divine beasts like taken apart and bringing the descendants to each one would give them powers like they're past champions and fighting a boss to in there or something but ik theres alot of flaws💀and it aint happening
They are so lucky that the gameplay is so good that some of us can overpass this incredibly bad writing, I'll also not gonna complain after the 6 years of all that people developing the game, but jesus christ it could at least be a better answer for this question...
Since Skyward Sword and the """"official"""" timeline, the saga has been in constant problematics due to "officially" solidify things that before were not solidified, so we could theorize about or go crazy on fun thoughs about them, but by setting things in stone they are just cuting of both developers and players creativity to think in the posibilities that (maybe) innofensive plot holes could give.
i think it's dumb. i think i would have preferred they just said "yeah we don't have a narrative explanation we just wanted them to be gone so we could focus on the *new* technology." like you said, the story takes backseat for zelda developers, they're most focused on making a good game first. which i can definitely respect, but in regards to botw/totk's new style of zelda, it further highlights the weaknesses in the narrative, in my opinion. if they didn't deem it important enough to include in game dialogue (such as with this, i feel like it could have Easily been implemented in a sheikah researcher's notebook, like purah's, in an explanation for why they created new towers or the purah pad), then don't try to give an explanation for it outside of the game. fan theories tend to be a lot more creative and interesting, imo.
it also doesn't make sense to me why the sheikah would design their tech to just dissolve into thin air when their purpose is fulfilled... like, all of that could still be useful. it's like building a hospital and then blowing it up once everyone's been treated like why lmao.
I agree on the Sheikah been rather lazy to make advance technologically only make it vanish after the "deed is done" but alas as it constantly shown throughout the series's history the Sheikah Tribe are the sworn _servants_ of the goddess Hylia with everything they do been in the service of Her Grace and the protection of the land against their own personal wishes. Since the Sheikah made the technology for the good of the world it would make sense that in the case of the towers, Shrines and Divine Beasts they would all be created for the _only_ purpose of assisting the Hero fight the Calamity with no role beyond that very objective alone. Since Calamity Ganon was completley destroyed at the end of Breath of the Wild all the technology had completley fulfilled it's purpose forcing it to disappear forever.
I could of come up with something better for them
I can live with the towers and the shrines being remixed, but removing the guardians and divine beasts is too much. From a game design standpoint, some places are less interesting without them. The Forgotten Temple is a boring interior with a couple of bokoblin camps. It would have been a much more exciting region if you could stumble on guardians there. It also makes no sense that Purrah, Impa, and Robbie don't seem to show any interest in understanding the mechanisms that caused the technology to disappear.
From a writing standpoint, it feels like lazy worldbuilding to just disregard crucial details from the previous game and act like they don't exist. God of War Ragnorok takes place three years after the 2018 game, but the devs didn't just swap out Tyr's Temple with a generic rock formation and excused it by saying "well, the way you travel between realms is different now". They kept what was a crucial landmark and wrote a story that built off of the events of the 2018 game. Tears of the Kingdom, on the other hand, wants players to forget about Breath of the Wild despite sharing the same world and characters. Now, if the Zelda team reuses the same world a third time, we have to assume that the Zonai are going to magically disappear too.
I think that all this information is very interesting.
Maybe they just repurposed enough and took notes before all the tech just disappeared?
still doesnt explain why they removed miphas statue she literally died for the sake of zoras domain
The "purification unit" that siphons Gloom from Ganondorf and transforms it into Ancient Energy is something that the Shiekah had to have known about. The design incorporates Shiekah designs, and Vah Ruta seems to stop working after the Castle is damaged by Calamity Ganon. Seeing as how the Calamity was able to control Ancient Technology once he became somewhat sentient, I feel that the Ancient Shiekah had designed the technology with the ability to deteriorate out of fear of Ganondorf's eventual awakening. We know that the Shiekah Warp function is canon due to the Distant Past cutscenes, so in my headcanon the technology evaporated away after losing power from Ganon.
This would be done due to fear that it's Ganon's magic that flowed through it, therefor he may be able to exercise some degree of control. Perhaps the Ancient King had that prophesied to him instead of what happened with Calamity Ganon, and that's why he had it all buried.
I thought the majority of Zelda games had story as the main draw 🤨. I've played since a link to the past first came out so either this is a new concept or I've been missing something😅
That was NEVER the main draw, Zelda was played and built for the game, the story was always looked at as the final portion of the game's development. The only exception was Skyward Sword and even then, the gameplay was still focused on first
The devs don't need to care. It's ok for games to leave things to the imagination and stop filling in every hole for players like they can't think for themselves. In the old days you didn't have a cutscene that explained every single detail like you did today. It's called imagination.. use it and write your own ending.
Nifty cool info.
1:49 mf is avoiding the question
This solidifies that they want to return to what they did before with Zelda which was make nearly every story independent from each other with only loose connections rather than trying to adhere to a timeline. Can't say I blame them but everyone else will
Then they shouldn't have made a sequel.
@@ShallBePurified This. It was literally a direct sequel and advertised as such. A bit different
@@ShallBePurified You say that as if that's not how they've done most of their "sequels". Majora's Mask, Four Swords Adventures, Link' Awakening and so on and so forth. Many of these literal direct sequels barely connect back to their predecessors. The only difference now is that, reasonably, people want more of a connection to past games but the actual developers don't. I stand by what I said, I can't really blame them but everyone else will. They put themselves into a corner and busted it down without any care of the consequences. They're just gonna do what they've usually done which is whatever they want for the most part. We're only just starting to notice it now because it's made itself all the more obvious
@@Soulferno All the other sequels changed enough that it feels like a standalone game. TotK uses the same map, same characters, same music, and same story structure as BotW.
They should go back to having things like owl statues instead of shrines.
So Fujibayashi-san took the lazy route and essentially said that post-Calamity, the people of Hyrule ALL WITNESSED 120+ Shrines, 12-15 towers, every guardian known to man, 4 DBs, and the Guardian Pillars surrounding the castle just up and evaporate into thin air?
Nah, that's lazy fucking lore, Hidemaru. And you should be ASHAMED. That is such a cop out. All that sheikah tech just up and evaporates before everyone's eyes?
Lazy writing, and I don't agree with it, even if he says it's canon. He took the lazy route, that is absolutely disappointing to hear.
You are better than that, Fujibayashi-san.....so much better than that
To bad they didn't add divine beast in the depths place
I mean, I'm fine with this explanation, considering the geography of Hyrule is never consistent between games.
Kinda late on the party, but i gotta say, this was kind of an anti- climatic explaination as to why almost every sheikah tech disappeared in TOTK lmao
I always thought that the sheikah tech from the 6 years (or something idk) before the events of the Upheavel would be (somewhat) enough time to salvage the shrines, divine beasts, guardians etc. But hey, what do i know, at least got an answer, we honestly would've gotten more of an answer for DLC but oops-
I mean it would of been awesome for link to fuse these guys and for a dragon divine beast
Would have been a fun tribute to Super Sentai/Power Rangers but alas Nintendo went in a different direction.
retcon retcon retcon
Botw cliffhanger was about the beasts stopped working.
Cannot believe they didn't follow up on that
If Zelda really doesn't focus on story then they shouldn't be adding in so many unexplained mysteries and disregarding continuity like this. Kirby, Splatoon and Metroid aren't very story focused like Zelda is either. But those games still build on lore from past games and follow continuity. So I don't wanna hear any justification for Zelda not doing it. Especially when it's of Nintendo's big franchises that has so much material for lore and story telling. If some of Nintendo's B tier franchises like Xenoblade and Fire Emblem can do it Zelda has no excuse.
A lot of lore from Kirby and Splatoon have to be explained outside of the game and rely a lot on conversation and conjecture, this isn't anything new with Zelda. The team has purposely left dangling aspects of their more outlying lore in order to create conversation and speculation, somehow that got lost among the greater fandom
@@HMK Then they shouldn't bother releasing things like creating a champion and literally advertising things like story if they don't care
@@HMK Splatoon has plenty of lore explained in their games. Primarily in their campaigns. Kirby typically had a lot of lore explained in the pause screens of boss battles on higher difficulties and arena fights.
Hello my name is mrs. Ruth Garza I'll tell you my opinion what happened to the shika technology you have spirits in this she couldn't acknowledge it in the they're in the define deist you the the scripts they did what they had to do and they got the job don't let's link River he had to do easy Spirit that's why I felt the tendo did the right thing take it out of the equation and that's my so all the spirits did what they had to do rest in peace 🕊️✌️
Not fond with this explanation. The thing is, the Divine Beasts are so dominant in the story of Breath of the Wild. They are incredibly important to the gameplay of that game, and by just simply stating that they vanished because their role in the story was over, is just..no. I obviously have to accept it from the man himself but it isn't a good explanation. The Divine Beasts are simply removed because of gameplay mechanics, that's pretty much it.
As a Zelda theorist myself, I could ''technically'' come up with some ideas of how exactly this went, so I would say that during the timeskip, the Sheikah decided to dismantle the beasts and use the materials to rebuild important key areas of Hyrule, not the entire land. As evil was now removed from view, there was no reason to have the things around that could potentially be used by some form of ''new'' evil or person that decided to use the beasts for their evil schemes. Better to dismantle it than to have it around for others to corrupt.
But that is what I'm saying, With Story always taking a backseat, that was BOTW and this is TOTK. They never had a role nor did the devs think it mattered to be explained as this is the next game dealing with new aspects
@@HMK Unfortunatly, it did matter by the looks of a lot of comments out there as a lot of people do feel that the Divine Beasts are something incredibly important to the Zelda lore. I don't mind so much, because I wasn't super happy with Breath of the Wild, but I can understand it though if it was your first Zelda game you ever played.
By the way, thank you HMK for responding. Love your videos for years now :D
Zelda sealed Calamity Ganon away so what did she do with it after? Or does she still have it with her after all the years since BOTW?
Do you think she Ate it or something? LOL
Didn't she actually "obliterate" it with her Sealing Power at the end of Breath of the Wild? Even though she later says Ganon was "gone for now" alluding to her only sealing him away the dialogue in the japanese version of the game implies she outright destroyed him preventing him from ever returning. With him gone for good in the japanese version that might explain why the Sheikah technology vanished from existence.
I love the fact that so much weird stuff happens in Hyrule that its inhabitants witnessed the disappearance of the Divine Beasts and were like "huh, the giant death laser-weilding animal robots disappeared? Just another Tuesday..."
Good god thats a sad reasoning
It really doesn’t matter how long it’s been you don’t get to toss out things like the divine beasts without explaining somewhere what happened to them. It is outright bad writing the same way nobody explaining what happened to the triforce is also bad writing. That being said it’s kind of a minor complaint as totk is definitely a far better game than botw.
Eh... As a professional writer this looks like nothing more than taking a lazy story short cut. In reality they just wanted to scrap and forget about as much of BOTW as possible and clear things out easy for TOTK. Sad that Zelda will never see her little guardian Terrako ever again from Age of Calamity...
I definitely agree that story has never been the priority but not mentioning it all in a direct sequel was a big mistake tbh even back when they made mm it had a small reference to what happened in ocarina of time and there is no way rob or pura would not have investigated it in any way or that nobody even years later would not mentioned how much easier it was to travel thanks to guardians being gone if anything it should have been mentioned more than a bit because people would be comparing to two events this is not a case of thousands of years where memories of what happened are gone it's a fairly small amount of time
How would they investigate if the stuff they wanted to investigate was GONE? lol Not defending this answer or how we got it, but I'm saying that this isn't anything new with the Zelda Team and I don't know why everyone was expecting that when gameplay is and will always be the core priority for Zelda
@@HMK even with it being gone they would still investigate even just what is currently known of the technology just going o well it's gone would not be in there nature if anything not being able to get answers would probably drive them harder into the mystery and would make it more likely that there would be something about them looking into it especially since they are now makeing there own stuff baced on the tech last thing you want is that stuff suddenly disappearing tbh honest they would probably have been better saying everything deamed to risky to keep around was dismantled and dumped in the ocean but I do agree some people go to hard on the devs over this when game play has always been the priority
You are way too forgiving for this excuse I am sorry to say. You say you are not defending Nintendos lack of story interest in Zelda but you really shouldn't excuse it either. Zelda shouldn't be heading down the Mario path where the story doesn't matter, Zelda deserves to be more than that.
Even if most people in the game were accepting that they would just disappear there are a few people who would not. Robbie, Purah, and Zelda. They would have been figuring that out on top of the new threat. Also I disagree with your reasoning the tech would disappear cause their role was fulfilled. If the tech would know the threat wasn't finished the first time it should know about the other threat that is still under the castle. Also it didn't even all disappear, there is the guardian used for decoration at Robbies place, the guardian arms used in Purahs towers, and that ancient arrow tip that can be found in some places and sold to you by the constructs.
It was a half assed excuse that doesn't make sense cause they didn't think about it. Its unfortunate Nintendo doesn't care about creating good stories' in Zelda anymore.
I don't care for nintendo's explanation. besides, if it did really fade away, then how did the spirit temple steward construct find ancient sheikah arrow blades in the depths. No way they can explain that. If so, I think it'll be as stupid as the answer for the divine beasts. Also there is a broken guardian still in totk, on top of a sheikah lab. I would of loved to see broken withered away sheikah tech remnants instead of it being wiped clean from the game, while keeping a easter egg or two.
I literally give my take and reasoning on this. As for Sheikah Arrow Blades, remember those are literally broken off repurposed tools for personal use, Guardian Technology as we know it in BOTW was never meant for individual use, until Robbie repurposed a lot of weaponry
I'm going to be honest this explanation is kind of poor...
kinda lame since imo shiekah stuff is better than zonai
Lazy!
This isn't anything new with Zelda's Storytelling lol
First
its lazy/weak storytelling period