I usually agree- but Japan has MANY fantastic features due to this honor system. Also- look at how many human systems require sacrifice- and what happens to communities when nobody is willing to sacrifice themselves for the greater good. Tragic.😢
My husband has a saying "I'll use my words, to your understanding".. Took my some time to figure it out but.. he is right. Just like the two of them.. Words.. can bring life and take one..
In the LAST EPISODE, when he gets in the boat AFTER being told of the “trade” that was made for his safe passage, he absolutely BREAKS DOWN (and it KILLED ME AS WELL when I watched it).
"Loyal becomes senseless when order is suicide" "Everyone is a target, every single one of them" ... Though, those new senses are not to be shared, as there is no way to invite to play, maybe "an enemy of my enemy is my friend", only those who sense it usually loners for a reason. Women can't particularly find purpose to those senses, can she find purpose to the regular one? What is her self look like? Turn it inside out and there are your senses back, a different kind of senses, but senses never the less!
@@rajatsinghchaudhary2946it may not be how it works in her culture but it does make sense, if her loyalty to him never started then it also never ended. i also don't think she's loyal to toranaga because her culture demands it (even tho it does) but because she's carrying on her loyalty to her late father. i don't think what she says is hypocritical, she never claims to be a model citizen of japan.
@@rajatsinghchaudhary2946 she was never loyal to her husband cause she never pledged it to him in the first place. And he emotionally abused and caged her long before not to mention the physically htting her. That in turn was a betrayl of loyalty from her husband as it was a big no no in sengoku period. Her loyalty was always pledged to the lord. Also in terms of Japanese culture, prior to Edo and Meiji era, adultery wasn't a symbol of loyalty. You can find records as early as Heian era about people sleeping around despite being married. Love and loyalty were 2 seperate things. Adultery was a betrayal of love and not loyalty
You owe loyalty to the ones loyal to you.
We owe nothing except Love..
@@laltanpuiamc6186 there's no such thing as "owing" or "to owe". People just made it up one day.
Amen.
@@coleburns362and that what separate us from the animals
That's conditional
Transactional
Not loyalty, but business
They’re both right. It does matter what they’re being loyal to, if the cause is worth an entire human life.
I usually agree- but Japan has MANY fantastic features due to this honor system.
Also- look at how many human systems require sacrifice- and what happens to communities when nobody is willing to sacrifice themselves for the greater good.
Tragic.😢
Yup. Loyalty goes both ways. If you want it, you must give it.
Best series on tv by a mile ever, equal to pre season 7 GOT
What is the name of this show
@@ruireis7671 SHOGUN
The end WAS TRASHHHHHHH
Best show ever ending is 10/10 masterpiece
@@ruireis7671shogun
My husband has a saying "I'll use my words, to your understanding".. Took my some time to figure it out but.. he is right. Just like the two of them.. Words.. can bring life and take one..
In the LAST EPISODE, when he gets in the boat AFTER being told of the “trade” that was made for his safe passage, he absolutely BREAKS DOWN (and it KILLED ME AS WELL when I watched it).
There's so many good lines in this show. I need to do a re-watch.
She’s amazing!
Respectfully shes too fine
....what a banger this entire show is
9.8 rate....magnifico
Is that rating for the show or for Mariko
@@ddr1706mariko’s a 10 so it must be for the show 😂
"Loyal becomes senseless when order is suicide"
"Everyone is a target, every single one of them" ... Though, those new senses are not to be shared, as there is no way to invite to play, maybe "an enemy of my enemy is my friend", only those who sense it usually loners for a reason. Women can't particularly find purpose to those senses, can she find purpose to the regular one? What is her self look like?
Turn it inside out and there are your senses back, a different kind of senses, but senses never the less!
Anna Sawai is just so regal
This clip should be the start of an edit
Funny she talks about loyalty when Toranaga was willing to leave Blackthorne with the Portugese just to save his own skin
Because Toranaga and Blackthorne are not bound before he became Toranaga's Hatamoto. So there is no sense (yet) for loyalty
@@Galicious141toranaga used everyone around him as pawns for his goal to become shogun
@@anas-432
You swear loyalty to a person, be prepared to be used or don't swear at all.
❤❤❤
Respect para un peaky blinder!!👊🏼
😢❤
That women had a death wish, anjin couldn’t help her and Christianity couldn’t
[proceeds to leave with a ship next day]
No!
Under orders, which proves her loyalty
@@slayerbot1394 I meant Yabushige
Name pls?
shogun, its a new series
but am not a big fan
Nice motto
Too bad don’t nobody respect that concept nowadays 😢
Talking about loyalty,she isnt loyal to her husband aa a wife , she cheated on him
She never loved her husband, and has no loyalty to him. Which is not uncommon for arranged marriages.
The first time she thought him dead. No excuse for the second time.
@@nopaulblemo4914 that's not how things in Japanese culture works ,
Nd pretty much contradictory to what she has to say about loyalty
@@rajatsinghchaudhary2946it may not be how it works in her culture but it does make sense, if her loyalty to him never started then it also never ended. i also don't think she's loyal to toranaga because her culture demands it (even tho it does) but because she's carrying on her loyalty to her late father. i don't think what she says is hypocritical, she never claims to be a model citizen of japan.
@@rajatsinghchaudhary2946 she was never loyal to her husband cause she never pledged it to him in the first place. And he emotionally abused and caged her long before not to mention the physically htting her. That in turn was a betrayl of loyalty from her husband as it was a big no no in sengoku period. Her loyalty was always pledged to the lord. Also in terms of Japanese culture, prior to Edo and Meiji era, adultery wasn't a symbol of loyalty. You can find records as early as Heian era about people sleeping around despite being married. Love and loyalty were 2 seperate things. Adultery was a betrayal of love and not loyalty
she is not Japanese by face and talk
If this were accurate, we'd hear her say; Royarty does not have an end; or it wourd not be royarty.
If this were accurate she would say it in Portuguese.