TurboGrafx-16 / PC Engine Shoot 'em Ups - Game Sack

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  • Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2024

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  • @VasCorpBetMani
    @VasCorpBetMani 10 лет назад +17

    When a Turbo Duo hard pauses the game for a moment to load, it's a good thing. It means it's dumping old shit and loading new. Games that didn't do that loaded all their data into RAM once, generally meaning they had less content to display. So those little pauses usually meant there were new stages, textures or sound effects being loaded, mixing up what was to come.

    • @eagix
      @eagix 2 года назад +1

      There's a way to stream that data to RAM from CD though, or to mask the loading operation without totally stopping the gameplay. Red solved this in LOT by moving the bosses to their own environment.

  • @JosiahIsWrite
    @JosiahIsWrite 7 лет назад +34

    I think you should do a video "The Most Adorable Cute-Em-Ups."

  • @rodmunch69
    @rodmunch69 6 лет назад +5

    I had Sidearms on the C64 and played it forever since, well, I my family was too poor to buy any other games, so it has a real soft spot in my heart.

  • @MetalJesusRocks
    @MetalJesusRocks 12 лет назад +37

    Man, that was really packed with info. I must have written down half a dozen games for my TG16 Wanted List. Thanks guys!

    • @popespalace823
      @popespalace823 5 лет назад +5

      creeper

    • @NintenDub
      @NintenDub 4 года назад +4

      Always were a poser metal jesus

    • @phazayus4041
      @phazayus4041 3 года назад +2

      KEEP ROCKING METALJESUS thankyou for hours of entertainment! I often write down games from your hidden gems list as well, between you and the guys at game sack i have a nice pc engine cd collection that I routinely play !

    • @teen_laqueefa
      @teen_laqueefa Год назад

      And then you label them "hidden" lol

  • @Ragtime4
    @Ragtime4 12 лет назад +5

    Wow, that was one of the most mind-blowingly awesome montage sequences I've ever seen. Would love to see a part II of this one, with in-depth coverage of more PC-Engine / TurboGrafx / TurboDuo / SuperGrafx shoot 'em ups! Especially R-Type, Image Fight I and II, the Darius series, the Raiden series, and Nexzr!

  • @TheCodedtestament
    @TheCodedtestament 9 лет назад +10

    Personally, I'd say Star Parodier and Lords of Thunder are my top contenders for Numbero Uno TG-16 shmup! The Soldier games are top-notch as well.

  • @AlphaOmegaSin
    @AlphaOmegaSin 11 лет назад +12

    Glad you focused on one of the very best songs in Lords of Thunder. That entire soundtrack is just flat out amazing

    • @Walczyk
      @Walczyk 3 года назад +4

      yea, seriously lords of thunder has the greatest turbografx music ive ever heard

  • @plipogamez3173
    @plipogamez3173 10 лет назад +5

    Many moons ago I had a PC Engine with the CD player at the side. I had about 6 CDs and about 8 cards, I paid on £20 for it. But I did not have the AV cable for it. I used to play the CDs and listen to the audio, now, its gone.

  • @GameSack
    @GameSack  11 лет назад +5

    The early games all had outer cardboard boxes including CD games. Jewel cases were inside. When the Duo came out, CD games came in jewel cases and no cardboard and card games came in cardboard boxes but no jewel case. This is US only. I was all jewel-case only in Japan.

  • @hippocrates72
    @hippocrates72 7 лет назад +17

    9:50 _"This version takes place before Jesus was born and that makes this game sooo much better!"_
    =D made my day

  • @GameSack
    @GameSack  12 лет назад +2

    We've learned that pretty much no matter what we do, we can't win. And many games aren't worth talking in depth about. Bt know that if a game shows up in a montage doesn't mean it'll never appear on the show again 9or hasn't already appeared before). We may talk about them for other reasons besides just being a shooter on the Turbo. And I don't think Whitesnake did the music for Android Assault/Bari Arm. :)

    • @reagandow850
      @reagandow850 5 лет назад

      Game Sack - Whitesnake? lol..no, I don’t think so either. I suppose it’s possible Sykes or Vandenburg could have done some of the guitar work on the soundtrack. That’s always possible.

  • @gtPacheko
    @gtPacheko 2 месяца назад

    I remember watching this episode when I was 11, it got me into the PCengine.
    I'm 23 now, and still love this system.

  • @SickTruck
    @SickTruck 8 лет назад +4

    All the power ups are in "Moon Language". Fantastic.

  • @fusoya6544
    @fusoya6544 5 лет назад +2

    Can't beleive I have only just discovered this episode! Brilliant list on an impossible task. The only AAA shooter I think you missed was Nexzr.

  • @videogameobsession
    @videogameobsession 5 лет назад +2

    10:50 I recently played the TG16 CD Forgotten Worlds and was surprised that there was no parallax scrolling present. The graphics may be much closer to the arcade, but the lack of that effect really makes the levels seem very "flat", for lack of a better word.
    I do think that if the Genesis version had a bit more development time, as well as more ROM memory, they could have made it near arcade perfect.
    The lack of a 2 player option and limited button config on the standard TG16 controllers is also a bummer too.

  • @Dac_vak
    @Dac_vak Год назад

    I love how Joe gave exactly 4 bars for each of the clips in the montage. Very cool.

  • @endersblade
    @endersblade 4 года назад

    Can't believe Blazing Lasers was in the montage and not the main part! LOVED that game! I really liked how every time you picked something up a voice would call it out!

  • @lazerwolfdiecast
    @lazerwolfdiecast 9 лет назад +3

    awesome episode! love the turbo and love shooters!!

  • @ajtstvandmusicarchivechann1585
    @ajtstvandmusicarchivechann1585 7 лет назад +1

    I just got a turbografx 16. Love this console. Thanks for the great videos guys.

  • @demonsty
    @demonsty 3 года назад +1

    that montage at the end was epic

  • @Obakedake
    @Obakedake 12 лет назад +1

    Been waiting for this one! Every time you guys post an episode I run out and buy a game or two, and this time will be no different.

  • @GameSack
    @GameSack  11 лет назад +4

    When the foreground and background scroll at different speeds to simulate depth.

  • @elabit
    @elabit 12 лет назад +1

    Finally you guys reviewed some good games! Thanks for giving Raisinbar lots of love it's totally badass and the soundtrack is one of the best ever.
    Still waiting for the CDi episode you guys promised though....

  • @mjbalistreri
    @mjbalistreri 8 лет назад +12

    I took a shot every time you guys said "for the most part" in your videos...and I died.

    • @ProductionLG
      @ProductionLG 7 лет назад

      In every episode you can hear ''ANYWAY'' XD

  • @VHSlaughterFest
    @VHSlaughterFest 10 лет назад +3

    Absolutely loved this video, great work dudes!

  • @colossus808e
    @colossus808e 4 года назад +1

    That montage instrumental was so good! Awesome vid, guys!

  • @raypadilla254
    @raypadilla254 6 лет назад +2

    TurboGrafx 16 is the most powerful 8 bit console ever created!!! So powerful infact, that it easily competes and surpasses graphicly the 16 bit consoles of the same generation!!!!

    • @mercifulkyle
      @mercifulkyle 6 лет назад

      Neo Geo was a different beast altogether though.

  • @GameSack
    @GameSack  12 лет назад +1

    @MRabbitFrog Every day? In order to do that we'd have to put in 8 hour+ days so maybe $100,000k+ a year? I'd be afraid of running out of stuff to cover.

  • @Serros13
    @Serros13 11 лет назад +1

    Thank you for your response, I appreciate it. But what I actually meant was if all jewell cases come in an additional cardboard outer box or just some of them.

  • @Serros13
    @Serros13 11 лет назад

    Much appreciated for your help. I took a look at ebay and I was confused. This info is really helpful. This is another reason I like Game Sack, you respond to your fans. Thanks again man.

  • @Marc_Araujo
    @Marc_Araujo 2 года назад

    Blazing Lazers and R-Type are my initial "go-to" games for this console and are still two of the best shooters the TG-16/CD has to offer.

  • @Tahnvalas
    @Tahnvalas 12 лет назад +1

    REALLY great show guys! Funny and informational, as always! Keep it up!

  • @ezequielgomez7083
    @ezequielgomez7083 2 года назад

    I really love playing awesome shoot em'ups on PC Engine and Turbografx-16 on Card and CD Game was Super Star Soldier, Final Soldier, Raiden, Super Raiden, Blazing Laser, R-Type, Cotton, Gradius, Salamender, Fantasy Zone, Detana Twinbee, Star Parodia, Gate of Thunder, Galaga 88, Darius Plus, Sidearms, Cybercore, Aero Blasters, Ordyne, Nexzr and Super Darius 2

  • @jackbootshamangaming4541
    @jackbootshamangaming4541 3 года назад +1

    MiSTer has gotten me into shmups, thanks for this list, other than emulation, I never got to experience the TG16, so now I'm loving having it available

  • @JoeyJ0J0
    @JoeyJ0J0 Год назад

    I have the Turbographx mini and it is full of shoot em ups. I love it Sapphire is so fun

  • @Sneakyturtleegg
    @Sneakyturtleegg 12 лет назад

    Awesome video guys. Everytime I think I have my NES/SNES/Genesis/Sega CD collections where I want them, I watch one of your videos which gives me more stuff to hunt down. This freakin' youtube channel is keeping me on a Ramen Noodles diet! I'd love to start collecting for the TG-16, but dang! It's not a cheap system to collect for. I rarely see anything for the TG-16 in the wild. It certainly would take some time and money to gather some of these gems off of ebay.

  • @BlindMaphisto
    @BlindMaphisto 12 лет назад

    I'm not sure he actually smacked Joe but despite my skepticism I give this episode another thumbs up. Nicely played.

  • @davidd3451
    @davidd3451 10 лет назад +10

    I think Blazing Lazers was a better game then some of the ones you lead with. I still play Blazing Lazers today. Not many games match the it in so many ways. Thanks for the video.

    • @PortableXombie
      @PortableXombie 4 года назад +2

      I realize this is a old comment but this is exactly why I like this video.

    • @nmpltleopardi
      @nmpltleopardi 3 года назад +2

      @@PortableXombie agreed. It's refreshing to see games other than blazing lazers/gunhed, getting mentioned for once. Everybody and their mothers know about that game and the star soldier titles so nothing is lost. I wish more people talked about 'aldynes', 'parodius', 'tatsujin' and 'gradius 2' instead of hearing about how bitchin the lords of thunder ost is or how pricy 'magical chase' is for the millionth time.

  • @StandingUpForBetter
    @StandingUpForBetter 7 лет назад

    Great video! With the Wii VC e-shop closing down at the end of the year I will definitely be buying more Turbo-16 games. This video gives me a great idea of what to look for. You guys should do a series on great Wii VC and WiiWare games. That feature of the Wii is so underrated. Keep up the great work!

  • @RetroBreak
    @RetroBreak 7 лет назад +1

    Great list, I'm trying to collect more PC Engine shooters so thanks! My ebay list is getting pretty full! haha

  • @GameSack
    @GameSack  12 лет назад

    @Number1StarSB That would have been redundant since I pointed out the Turbo version specifically was single player.

  • @MediaBoBanger
    @MediaBoBanger 11 лет назад +1

    TG16 had a ton of shooters. I have some. I like the way yall gave all the games equal show by using the time frame of the music. Did anyone else notice that?
    Long live the cool Tg16. Good video. I'll be raisin' the bar to yaq.. What? Heh. Good day!

  • @LizardkingMario
    @LizardkingMario 12 лет назад +1

    10:19 that staple Capcom powerup always sends a nostalgia chill through my spine..

  • @GameSack
    @GameSack  12 лет назад

    That game has great music but I don't recall anything about Whitesnake. I'll have to double-check.

  • @dmferrari
    @dmferrari 3 года назад +1

    The acting in these old videos is supreme

  • @Justforvisit
    @Justforvisit 2 месяца назад

    Man that silly pun at the end was really raisin bar for future puns...

  • @RetroGameThrowdown1
    @RetroGameThrowdown1 11 лет назад

    Game Sack: The only show that I sit in front of the TV and constantly writing notes.

  • @123doomdoom
    @123doomdoom 12 лет назад

    My ratings for some of the games you covered:-
    Air Zonk-8/10 (last level is brutal)
    Super Air Zonk-8.5/10 (plays smoother)
    L-Dis-8/10 (very underrated, and you guys were too harsh to this game)
    Sidearms-8/10 (Side arms special is better)
    Sidearms special-9/10 (love the CD music in this)
    Forgotten Worlds-7/10 (awkward controls)
    Gate of thunder-9/10
    Lords of thunder-9.5/10
    Rayxanber II-8.5/10
    Rayxanber III-7/10
    Blazing lazers-8/10
    Sinistron-9/10
    Metamor Jupiter-6/10
    Image Fight II-8/10

  • @HHog
    @HHog 11 лет назад +1

    Boy, you guys sure were "Raisin' the Bar" in terms of comedy with that joke at the end there :V

  • @kylekostamo1880
    @kylekostamo1880 Год назад

    I used to own the Genesis version of forgotten worlds, highly underated for the system. Its great, never had an arcade in town that actually had the arcade version of the game so i cant compare the 2, but its definitely worth a try on Genesis!

  • @twanbiz7252
    @twanbiz7252 7 лет назад

    The parallax in spriggan 2 is absolutely amazing

  • @CanadianPenny
    @CanadianPenny 8 лет назад

    From the side-by-sides, it looks like the Genesis sometimes benefits from the lower colour pallete, because it forced the developers to put in greater contrast between the colours, which make elements pop more. I say "sometimes," though, because Lords of Thunder is an obvious exception.

  • @braindmg985
    @braindmg985 12 лет назад

    Best show in town as always, tnx guys :)

  • @kirgeez-gaming
    @kirgeez-gaming 12 лет назад

    Hey Mr. GameSack cool review. You probably know this already but I didn't hear this mentioned. Side Arms is a two player arcade game Forgotton Worlds is also a two player arcade game. Forgotton Worlds is also a two player Genesis game with its parallax scrolling intact where as according to you the TG-16 version is only one player with arcade type sprites arranged CD music but no parallax scrolling from what I saw in your video.

  • @Godsgood111
    @Godsgood111 11 месяцев назад

    Joe's reaction to the raisin bar is the same reaction I had to his reaction😂

  • @SlimeTeeVee
    @SlimeTeeVee 12 лет назад

    Yet again amazing, great choice of games in this one

  • @metalwolfzx
    @metalwolfzx 8 лет назад +4

    have you done any videos of a console named the fm towns?

  • @JimPlaysGames
    @JimPlaysGames 12 лет назад +1

    4:10 Weebl?
    I like shmups, but I totally suck at them despite playing them for years.
    Great review as always, and I love pun humour :D

  • @studiokadaver
    @studiokadaver 4 года назад

    Love these NEC systems. I have the SuperGraphx + Super CD2 but, also the SSDS3, PC Henshin & Arcade Duo Cards.

  • @RyuHayabusa06
    @RyuHayabusa06 9 лет назад +3

    My vote goes to Sapphire for best PCE shooter. Lords and Gate are close behind.

  • @KNGINetwork
    @KNGINetwork 12 лет назад

    Oh that pun at the end. DOHOHOHOHO!
    A little disappointed that there was no mention of Dead Moon for the TG-16. It's a bit on the easy side and the graphics aren't exactly mindblowing, but the music is seriously fantastic!

  • @123doomdoom
    @123doomdoom 12 лет назад

    Ok start with the desert level and collect as much money as you can. Than continue beating the stages counter clockwise (easy>hard).Use an appropriate weapon for each level (fire armor for ice, and water armor for fire).Also, there are health items in many levels, so learn their location.Many bosses rely on patterned attacks, so take the time to learn them.Also save most of your currency for the last 3-4 levels. Try to spend as little as possible in first 3 levels, and rely on ur skill.

  • @matthewbrown169
    @matthewbrown169 11 лет назад +1

    I loved the game cards on the TG16.

    • @siphotos3282
      @siphotos3282 5 лет назад

      Matthew Brown yeah the hue cards are sweet man

  • @kikujade
    @kikujade 11 лет назад

    too many episodes about shoot em ups. You guys must REALLY like them.

  • @MiguelVergaraK
    @MiguelVergaraK 9 лет назад +4

    XD Those BC jokes just killed me

  • @Charliemmafan
    @Charliemmafan 9 лет назад +2

    Decent video but you guys should have covered some of the good shooters more at the end like Blazing Lazers, I think that's one of the best if not the best shooters on the system but still good video.

  • @WskOsc
    @WskOsc 12 лет назад

    Forgotten Worlds! YEAH! Such a great game and I only ever played it on Genesis. Seeing this makes me wish I had a Turbo Grafx 16 but I don't even remember seeing one in Europe at all. Really want to get my hands on Thunder Force and Lords Of Thunder, those two look and sound amazing. Great show as always and I'm glad we saw some Forgotten Worlds love!

  • @GameSack
    @GameSack  12 лет назад

    @MRabbitFrog If we knew we wouldn't tell you, we'd be doing it!

  • @Midori_Hoshi
    @Midori_Hoshi 12 лет назад

    What a great episode. How come you guys STILL don't have tons of subscribers? The quality here is too good.

  • @Ratlegion
    @Ratlegion 9 лет назад

    Yeah, don't let something like a comfortable chair hold you back from greatness.

  • @KaleidoSTAR_PH
    @KaleidoSTAR_PH Год назад

    4:26
    my mystery game I used to play for a long time finally solved! 😭😭

  • @weirdproq
    @weirdproq 12 лет назад +1

    the 90's had a load of shooters/SMUPS, Fighting games and 2D platformers.

  • @Hellwyck
    @Hellwyck 10 лет назад

    bbutters2 "It would have been cool if Whitesnake actually did do the score though."
    Whitesnake weren't "80's hair metal", they were a blues band then a led-zeppelin-esque rock n roll band with some ballads and then some sort of heavier metal-ish band when Doug Aldritch joined. Poison were a true Hair Metal band.

  • @djjoel1
    @djjoel1 9 лет назад +7

    RAYZANBURRR

  • @DeviousDave
    @DeviousDave 12 лет назад

    Another stellar episode! never did own a turbo grafx but wo

  • @BigDog91527
    @BigDog91527 12 лет назад

    You most certainly do, considering that i've watched almost all of your videos the same day i found the channel I just think it's a waste to leave it at that when there's so much more interesting stuff to cover just because you've already covered many of them.
    And yeah i know my response had nothing to do with the message. I just have this tendency to overlook the fact that i'm responding to something specific when i see the name of the video creator in the comment box.

  • @shadowkitty777
    @shadowkitty777 12 лет назад

    I love your videos! Have you guys ever considered going to Magfest? You should do an episode on that event. I loved this episode btw! I had forgotten how hard I laughed when my friend first showed me Rayzambar 2 and I heard the intro!! Your videos are really the best!

  • @Narniak69
    @Narniak69 8 лет назад

    "Did you find the guy?"
    "I'll finish you today for sure."

  • @chronicleone
    @chronicleone 12 лет назад +1

    Ai Chou Aniki is disturbingly awesome.

  • @MetalSupplySite
    @MetalSupplySite 11 лет назад

    holy crap those guitars are amazing!!

  • @slacksmore
    @slacksmore 11 лет назад

    I wish more of these greats would have seen release for the Wii Virtual Console service. For some odd reason there hasn't been a TurboGrafx or PC Engine release for over a year now. Perhaps there was a falling out from Hudson and Nintendo for the classic TurboGrafx games which I'm seeing more of on my PS Vita or PS 3. Still I'm proud to have owned the original system during its brief time in the spotlight complete with the CD attachment which was a blast! I just wish more games hit the VC on Wii

  • @123doomdoom
    @123doomdoom 11 лет назад

    In comparison to other home versions at the time, these are the best Neo Geo ports, and I proved my point that there are some decent fighting games for the system. I don't knew where you are trying to take this discussion.

  • @Wolfdragon92584
    @Wolfdragon92584 5 лет назад

    4:09
    That egg creature looks like Ike Broflovski from South Park. Now i know why they call it a cute-em-up. It's like an egg baby!!!

  • @GameSack
    @GameSack  12 лет назад

    Apparently we don't know what the hell we're doing with the show. But then again, you replied to a comment that has nothing to do with what you said.

  • @CommodoreFan64
    @CommodoreFan64 12 лет назад

    AWESOME SAUCE EPISODE!!! Seriously I need to get a TG-16, or a DUO, as it's an awesome system.

  • @luftman
    @luftman 12 лет назад

    Awesome episode as always!

  • @asnierkishcowboy
    @asnierkishcowboy 10 лет назад +1

    Ohh now i know where the Opa-Opa character came from. But why did Sega develop for another system when they had the Master System out?

    • @tatsujincorp
      @tatsujincorp 7 лет назад

      well, they didn't. NEC Avenue did ;)

    • @Ginormousaurus
      @Ginormousaurus 6 лет назад

      The Sega Mark III/Master System had disappointing sales in Japan, where it was outsold by the Nintendo Family Computer/NES and the PC Engine/TurboGrafx-16. Sega probably thought they could make more money by making Fantasy Zone available on other consoles and home computers.

  • @Number1StarSB
    @Number1StarSB 12 лет назад

    Weak to not mention Forgotten Worlds being a 2-Player Genesis game (which was a huge selling point back then) and the one I would choose every time because of this.

  • @eppskevin
    @eppskevin 8 лет назад +1

    My goodness at the Lords of Thunder soundtrack...

  • @_fadingcolors
    @_fadingcolors 9 лет назад

    Woah! What was going on during God Panic?

  • @Aco137AR
    @Aco137AR 8 лет назад +6

    hahaha love the end!!!!

  • @GameSack
    @GameSack  12 лет назад

    @elabit We did?

  • @bbutters2
    @bbutters2 12 лет назад

    Hey GameSack guys, if you like guitar oriented soundtracks for shmups, I would recommend Android Assault for the Sega CD, the score was done entirely by Whitesnake.....80's awesomeness!!!!!

  • @MyWashington2
    @MyWashington2 10 лет назад +2

    Hey , No Space Fantasy Zone in the video ???

    • @gunma747j
      @gunma747j 7 лет назад

      MyWashington2 cause it is a beta game

  • @benjaminshinobi
    @benjaminshinobi 12 лет назад

    I wouldn't mind if every episode was about 16-bit era shooters

  • @bbutters2
    @bbutters2 12 лет назад

    Yeah, I get that now, but Mark could have been a little more clear about the way he said it. One can interpret it as Whitesnake actually doing the score or that it was "like" Whitesnake did the score, as the score being that type of 80's hair metal style. My bad for not interpreting it the correct way. It would have been cool if Whitesnake actually did do the score though.

  • @videostash413
    @videostash413 7 месяцев назад

    Still the best end skit!

  • @DeanWhipper
    @DeanWhipper 12 лет назад

    Good watch, thanks guys, keep up the good work!

  • @gunmawong6825
    @gunmawong6825 9 лет назад +1

    Gradius I and salamander r missing,twinbee also

  • @BigDog91527
    @BigDog91527 12 лет назад

    Well when it comes down to covering more stuff I'd say it's a win in 95% of the cases and considering that the channel IS about reviews after all i think it's a much more valid point than saying "don't do/do less of this", wouldn't you agree?
    And yeah it may appear again but what i'm talking about is the whole "putting it away"-mentality when the ideas are ALREADY there. It's not the same thing as covering what you have for now and maybe cover something in the future if it pops up.