Living in Denmark vs. Living in the USA
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- preparetoserve.... Living in Denmark vs. Living in the USA. Similarities and differences between living in Denmark and living in the United States of America (housing, transportation, lifestyle, weather, Danish culture etc.).
“A developed country is not a place where the poor have cars. It's where the rich use public transportation.” - Gustavo Petro
I was born and raised in L.A. now much older I am living in Denmark and at first I was culture shocked because I was use to keeping to yourself and belongings closer, Been here two years now and learning Danish and the people are wonderful, I love their culture and hope it never changes... I had many headaches and depression from the US and on a lot of medications, here I am no longer rely on medication because Denmark is peaceful and stress free.
Are you an employee of the danish tourist agency? ;)
Nej
Thanks, but wer are sadly changing. Late modern society individualism, globalisation and the financial crisis mix to form an unhealthy liberalist and nationalist trend in our society.
PalleRasmussen
We still have the highest taxes in the world so where do you see this "individualism"?
BarrySlisk A) Sweden is now apparently higher.
B) You do not know much of sociology I take it? I am not trying to denigrate you, but it would seem from your reply that I am talking apples and you are talking not even oranges, but ... I dunno... beer... I would ask you to look up Late Modern Society or, which would be even better, join a VUC for Samfundsfag C-B-A, learning is a great experience and makes you content. So no arrogant pointing fingers here, just a piece of advice as we are apparently in two different worlds.
She says "you get on the bus at church", like a lot of people go to church in Denmark. Those 5-6 people were (depending on if it was in the city) the only people in the church. Like, almost nobody goes to church here.
We don't bicycle because we can't afford cars, we just don't have your american obsession with driving the biggest most polluting vehicle to go to the corner store, we are much more health obsessed.
People actually CHOOSE to bike, even if they have / can afford to buy a car!
+Merete Mitfuldenavn Gasoline is expensive in DK.
Yes it is. But the Danish salaries are high as well. So economy is not the sole reason to bike. Danes ALSO choose to bike, because it helps them to stay fit, it's often easier to get around in the city - at least in Copenhagen - on bike, and its good for the environment. - And a lot of people enjoy riding their bikes, when they're used to it. :o)
Danes have a large DMV licensing (not sure of license amount) and sales tax when they purchase a car like 100%.sales tax. (moms)
*****
1. You shouldn't call anyone stupid. 2. I live in Denmark, and I can inform you, that most people do in fact own a car over here.
3. The average american is very poor because of low salaries. Here in Denmark, the income disparities are much lower, so even relatively poor people have a decent standard of living compared to the US.
PIANOPHUNGUY
Actually, it's 180 %, which may seem crazy to you guys :D But people still want cars - we might be driving smaller cars, though, and many buy a previously owned car, but still. :o)
you get deductibles when married, so not true about the taxes. The reason why danes dont marry so much, is because it does not mean that much to us anymore, many who marry does it solely for the ritual and the feast... it is more a family and community thing than a religious one... Just like the confirmation is all about the gifts and the party. In reality Christian rituals has been securalised in Denmark
+R3ika interesting, thanks for sharing!
+Prepare to Serve! Actually half the tax goes to paying for non-insured people on public benefits... So it has run amok. One sixth of the population is on uninsured benefits. It can not continue.
Human societies area tremendously complex, and reductions of reality leads to bad science... But i would rather have we drop the term altogether and just keep in mind that rather large aspects of who we are, comes from christianity as well as pre-christian traditions.
Well I do not get that statement about more expensive either, it is simply not true. You get a deduction in tax for various reasons, so lets say one is without work in a year, your spouse will get that deduction benefit and therefore pay less tax. It is very dependent on your income, some with an above normal paygrade for both partners may see a tax increase, but for many it will be less.
Am I really the only one thinking that "hygge" is most correctly described as chilling?
hanging out with your friends, talking and stuff... That's chilling!
Denmark is awesome, great country! I wouldn't mind moving there from USA.
I am from Denmark
+Veronica the diamond Også mig ^^
+jaysorbet I don't see how people live in the USA today. When I visit there it seems like a horrible place, like it's an oligarchy.
chamboyette853 Depends on where you live I suppose. I've lived everywhere across the USA. I love living here and I also loved my time in Europe (Denmark, NL (favourite country), Sweden, "Czechia", UK, Poland, the Baltic countries etc.) To be fair, I can live anywhere. I do not care much about government and politics.
jaysorbet You have a good attitude. I wish I could be like that. I like where I live now but I could not live in the USA any longer.
finally someone who actually knows something about denmark - instead someone who think we go role playing every weekend =)
The shops do not close at five... the earliest I have seen that wasn't on a holiday was six and that was one place. most supermarkets are open generally from 8am to 8pm, that span you can be 99% sure to always have an open store available.
I'm from Denmark, andI wouldn't say it's super safe, but I guess it is pretty safe compared to America.
The best explaination of "hygge" from a foreigner I ever heard!!!
Yeah, but I don't think "hygge" is that is something special. Other people do that as well. It's funny that danes try to define themselves by that concept.
We don't try to define our selfs by that concept. It's foreigners who always brings it up and makes it part of our defintion. And the welfare system is sustainable. It's not actually a new idea we just trie out. It's been sustainable for decades.
Is not for fun and giggles that we always hear about cutting welfare. Not many years ago we had 7 years of "dagpenge" (80% of pay when laid off), then 4 years and now 2 years. The system is not sustainable.
BarrySlisk
That's interesting. You're Dansih yet you're on here trashtalking Denmark. Feel free to leave. I'm sure the united states will suite you better, and we can have our welfare intact.
And no it's not sustainable when there's a world wide financial crash. Then nothing is sustainable. And we have greedy right wing politician looking for any excuse to cut the welfare down. That doesn't make it unsustainable. It just means DK has it's fair share of assholes just like everyone else does.
basquat76
"You're Dansih yet you're on here trashtalking Denmark."
I guess you would have been a perfect Nazi in Germany in the 40's if your view is that you cannot criticize your own country.
"Feel free to leave."
Oh thanks Adolf! But this is my country. Can't leave it to the fascists. Besides my family and friends live here. I guess family and friends mean nothing to somebody like you.
.."and we can have our welfare intact."
I just told you. It's not intact. It's degrading. From 7 years dagpenge to 2 years. Is that intact?
"And no it's not sustainable when there's a world wide financial crash."
It has got nothing to do with that. We have among the lowest growth rates in Europe. In one ranking only Greece had lower growth.
Daycare, College, Health Care...covered (any idea how much of a difference this would make in the USA?). Reeal vacations-28-32 Holiday plus the other various days off. Flex time. Off work at a civilized hour so you can be with family. World Class Bicycle facilities. Excellent transit. Safety nets. Strong employment #'s.. Under 3% unemployed. A concern for the health or the community and how that relates to the environment. History. Less concern about how much $ you have, and how much "stufff" you have.. SIGN. ME. UP.
Also, we don't have a McD around every corner, we might have fruit shops there instead :)
No, you have 7-Elevens.
+Nubianette we don't have Many of them
Yawn
Oh yes. There are McDs. But despite the High salaries in Denmark a meal is actually cheaper than in the US
Depends on the state you purchase. If you compare to NYC or some other large city, you will see higher prices. But down south and midwest, Mcd's is really cheap. Also I don't think DK has the equivalent of $1 menu. At least it didn't last time I was there. And when you die from eating too much McDonalds, the US doesn't automatically take 55% of your estate in taxes.
It sounds like a great country.
Barely in Top 20 actually. And going down. The welfare system is not sustainable....In the 60's when taxes were lower than in US we were much richer (relatively).
U.S.A er rigere, men vi er også 70 gange mindre + hver dansker tjener i gennemsnit 100.000kr mere om året end en Amerikaner.
I refuse to read that wall of text.
BarrySlisk My expertise is argumentation and psychology, normally no argument works on the internet no matter how valid or psychologically enlightened. I am just amusing myself with a new approach. Its not like you'd ever change your mind no matter how excellent the comment you found was. Could you even imagine such a comment? What would be in it? What arguments? What type of arguments? What evidence? What tone would the author have? What would your day have had to be to even bother to read it?
lazygamerz
My opinion HAS changed due to internet debates. Not 180% but it certainly has moved and I am not 100% set in my views.So this is untrue.
Now that you are into psychology then you know about projection. That's you mate. You don't change your opinion no matter what and then you assume that this is the case for me as well.
Have a nice day, dude. I hope you learned something from your new "approach".
You are not taxed by getting married, but you loose benefit (rent subsidies) and you also gain the responsibility of mutely supporting one another rather than letting the state support you if you lose your job. When married and the spouse is unemployed you actually gain the benefit of getting the spouses tax deductions.
this is interesting, rent subsidies.... what about ownership? Seems to me a potential loophole that Denmark may close, depending... going off very little here though.
Home owners get's tax deduction on the
mortgage interests.
Living in society that's people care for each other, what else you wants?
Daycare in Denmark is not from 18 months but more like 6-12 months of age.
And the thing about marriage being more expensive is also misunderstood - It's the other way around.
My experience in Denmark was fun. It isn't cheap, but there is a feeling of commonality I don't find in the U.S. , which is why I understand Bernie Sanders. Forest kindergartens . I'm 63 and love to run my dogs in the forest. Life is real. Experience!
Why would you send missionaries to a country that has been effectively christian for 3 times the age of your own country. I imagine it's difficult, with the ones that would even consider just randomly talking about christianity in detail would be people who already believe in christianity, so what's the point?
lol at danes going to church.
Many couples in Scandinavia live together without getting married. It's called "sambo".
I really like how you made the video. It was relaxing to watch. thankyou
Hi . thanks for your video .
I'm 31 years old man . I'm single man . I'm a truck and bus and forklift driver . I live in Iran. My university degree is bachelor .
I don't have English language certificate but I can speak and write and read english well. I also can speak Persian and Turkish.
It's my dream to live and marry and work in Denmark.
How can I emigrate to Denmark ?
Please help me . Thanks a lot
Thank you for sharing your experiences and insights.
I used to see the leader of one of the major parties in the parliament on the bus. That was more than 20 years ago though. Doubt that happens anymore, sadly.
I have seen two MPs (Ole Birk Olesen and Villy Søvndal) on the bus and metro. And I only use them when my car is being serviced :)
No big deal. And yes, it still happens.
Living your life to the fullest Danish
can u tell me one more thing if i studied denmark after my studies is
there chance to move UK england as uk is also eurpion nation, i love USA
but they are not accepting me and denmark is ready for visa, so please
tell me can i move USA after studies
You want to move to UK, USA or Denmark? And where are you from?
"Hygge" basicly means cozyness.
not really, cause you can be cozy alone, but you can hygge alone, its more like the feeling of cozyness and relaxation in a social environment
What a sweetheart! And i love your term "Hygge'ing" lol :-D
So great to hear good things from "in-movers"!
Take care!
our culture is not realy changing the refugees are happy to celebrate Christmas and eat and drink our food they are adapting. and in some places i agree that some bits of danish culture get for gotten but that is at the German border where the German culture is more dominate than the danish. And if our culture where to change it would not be Syrian but rather German, polish or Turkish
Well thats just not true, allot of immigrants try to change the culture of scandinavia. To their Islam-like way of eating and working.
There is one fault. People get deductibles when they get married. When young people choose not to get married it is because they are afraid to get divorced. Divorce rate is fairly high. Another thing is that the marriage they want can be very expensive because they want that party to be an experience for life. 85% of the population are members of the Evangelical Lutheran church, so missionary ar not needed very much.
+Jens Erik Bech
The 85% is only because we are born into the church. Probably only 20-30% of danes are religious.
+NordicNicklas :: I have been nursing dying people and I can tell You that when they are about to die 99% of them are "Religious". That's the truth.;-)
Jens Erik Bech
Obviously, they have nothing to lose. My my statement still stands though.
NordicNicklas But it is just a loose canon of Yours. Where did You get "20%" from? The number is ridiculous!
Jens Erik Bech
I can't remember at the moment. I read it in a study somewhere. 20-30% is not unrealistic in a country like Denmark.
Almost everything is about twice as expensive in Denmark than in the US.
+Gerald Bennett yea but we also get paid more, I'm 20 still in education and i make a little over 20 USD an hour with my sparetime job
And none of us complain, because we actually get paid.
Not healthcare and education
so if Trump becomes president had planned to move 2 Denmark. What do you think of that? I am an African-American woman middle age and I have good work experience and 2 degrees in psychology. What are my chances of finding a job. what about an apartment or at least sharing one ? HELP!
+Kathy Mills Pretty good I would say, though it depends on language skills, we are all taught English and German in school but you would properly need to have Danish language classes. My last two doctors where immigrants, one from Germany and one from India (I think, did't ask), both had accents but spoke well enough to be understud. Higher educated people all ways have an easier time finding jobs here, and if you have a job banks will lend to you for for the down payment on a house or apartment, the rest you lend from a credit firm (like 15.000 dollars from the bank and then 75.000 from the credit firm). That you are middle age women or of African desend does not really matter much, in my last class we had people from Sweden, Letitia and Nigeria so we are pretty mixed. :)
I've been there twice and on my way again. I'm also African-American, but I'm from California, so I'll just visit. It's better if you can work for a company that is headquartered in Denmark and get transferred. Pharmaceutical companies, shipping come to mind. No matter what, you'd need a contact with a company who wanted to hire you. I've met several Americans who live there. I also met American students as well. Good luck! Ps, it snowed there, this morning. ;)
+entZEROspawn Since when are all Danes taught German? You can chose French instead, and it's for such a short time that practically no one can speak either languages anyway.
+Kathy Mills Good luck. They have a very conservative immigration policy. Very difficult to immigrate there since the 90's, even if you marry a Dane.
+Kathy Mills
I think the biggest problem is to lean the language.
My wife is German and a psychologist and she had to learn Danish perfectly.
My wife works in the public sector, but you can also be self employed where you get patient from the public sector.
I don't know how difficult it is to get a immigration permit but I think it is getting more difficult.
I think the easiest way to migrate to Denmark is the get hired by a Danish company.
Concerning sharing apartment you can find a lot of people who are share an apartment so I don't think it is a problem.
Very pretty face and lovely relaxing speaking voice. Well chosen for the job
We go to daycare when we are 6 month old to 3 year's old
That's individual.
What do they think about missionaries from Jedi temple?
Sorry to say it. But religion is a dying tradition here in Denmark.
Whooo denmark
In socialist Denmark, the government pays you to go to school.
It's Social Democracy.
You all love Denmark, I can see why! It's a beautiful country. So many Americans want the US to be more like Denmark, less cars, smaller homes, free education, free healthcare....okay I'm rambling... me too! But that's a deep as American's like to look. Denmark lacks very much diversity and they are mostly Christian (of all religions). Both of which young Americans who want to move to Denmark hate about the US. Oh and their whole new immigration law they passed in 2016 making it "the least attractive country for refugees".
my family and my friends never use the word hygge, thats more like something that the girls would say if they where gonna get it on XD
The US has some wonderful traits but we don't trust our government to let them have any more taxes than we do. Some states actually tax food! And of all entities, if it's the government that rules that people can't have guns, then we would be suspicious of our own government and military. There was a time when some things were free, but no longer. I good education at the University of California when I lived there, for free! An excellent Liberal Arts degree taking Russian, Greek Mythology, Logic, History of Philosophy, Shakespeare, Drama, Violin, Speech, Anthropology, Geography, Meteorology, Climatology, Paleontology, Psychology, Oceanography, Poetry Real Estate, and so very much more. I had a university career as well. But that's not the case at all now. But where I live now, the health care is incredible! If you are very poor, there are many, many free treatments from any number of specialists. Free medicines, fee dentists, free general practitioners, free home care, free phone, energy assistance, m people to come into your home and clean it, cook your food, go with you to concerts, museums, zoos, bookstores, yoga. A dozen or more forms of therapy. Including weight loss. Yes, fee weight manages and physical fitness with a trainer! Free travel to clinics. I've just been in the right state at the right tie. California has no tax on food, but a state income tax. Where I am now, there is tax on food, 6.1% but no state income tax. Oregon has VERY high property taxes but no sales tax. Each state is left to decide from whence they get the funds to operate. Some states are very religious, some, such as Washington State (Seattle) are not. Texas. Now THAT is a religious state. And patriotic. And no one is going to be a president without being hyper-patriotic and a little religious. I'm not sharing what state I'm in right now. It's not a big enough state to take in the to elderly that would move here for free and terrific health care. I'll just say it is one of the Pacific Northwest states also known by some as UTOPIA
I lived in Denmark from 1966 to 1975 in an apartment. Same one. Many of our neighbors had no phone, because you have to pay a very large deposit to get a phone. There was only 1 t.v. station which is controlled by the socialists. Starting a business is difficult, because you'll be accused of "profiteering" and making a "fat profit". Denmark: here is your bicycle and your ryebread open face sandwich.
About the TVs station. The TV station is a part of the government but not control by the government
That sounds like some pastor or priest explaining the trinity. "Part of the government but not coltrol(ed) by the government.
+PIANOPHUNGUY Denmark is the best place in the world to start a business...
PIANOPHUNGUY I Hope you know what I meant :) but if not the tv station gets money from the state but the state dont have any control over what content that gets broadcasted on the station
Why not just have commercial television?
What is the purpose of government anyway?
children start in daycare at 1 year normaly
*4 cars
"Hygge" means chill
But you can also play a tennis match, and think it is hygge. Hygge is not translatable, and even though it is used much when you chill, it can also mean something else.
Hygge is more like 'cosy time' with oneself or others.
+C J Allison I know I'm Danish myself
Kurt Frederiksen That's exactly what 'having a cosy time with oneself or others' means....
Kurt Frederiksen Yes, sure.I know what you mean...
I don't know how Americans understand the term 'having a cosy time with oneself or others'. But being a Brit living in Copenhagen the last 26 years, this is how I would explain 'hygge' to fellow Brits and they get it. Well, ok, perhaps I'd also have to throw a couple of other adjectives too... :D
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yes yes thats all very nice.. but what are some of the bad sides of living there? cmon give me some dirt here.. ive heard they have racism, gangs and "great politics" there aswell.
There's racism EVERYWHERE. One bad thing is the common thought that everyone has to be even. No one can be/feel special or have it better than others. Try look up 'Janteloven'
Dreadklan Well yeah it IS weird. And I think Jacob Dalgaard is exaggerating things, shootings are very very rare in Denmark since guns/weapons are generally illegal.
do you read the newpaper? not one day passes without a shooting or knifestabbing, visitationszones has just been deployed in 4 areas throughout nordsjælland because police fear massive gang violence!
well was told it is not "that" bad by my friend too, but mainly because we compared it to where we are currently living which is Chicago. Also known as Chiraq. But sounds like the girl in the video should have read the newspaper too.
Bad health care (they don't even know how to wash their hands, waiting lists).
When you get old don't expect a bath every day...or week.
50-60% tax when you count everything.
The cars are taxed 150% + VAT 25%. Is that not dirt enough??? :)