Nice review. Thank you for the honesty and good explanation. Your conclusion has been my experience as well. Bigger to a point is good for sure. Knowing the limit of where too big becomes diminishing return, and a negative in terms of unnecessary added weight and decreased aerodynamics, is a key thing to know. 47-50 is light MTB territory and should be used as such. For gravel 38-43 seems to be a sweet spot, perhaps slightly smaller for all out racing. Mostly roads and 32 fits the bill nicely.
True. Wider rims weren’t accessible at the time however the minimum tyre pressure still remains from manufacture. But as I have said these are pretty great and roll really well on the current rim as apposed to the 50C and or the flip chip on the longer wheelbase setting. So with the current setup they really rolling well. Also not everyone will be using wider rims out the box either so it was good to see how they are on these.
Hi. From what i see on paper the rambler looks faster. Think it’s a great tire as i have an athlete using a set. But again it will depend on terrain, pressure and what width you looking at. Most tests are done with the narrower versions and also not in real world environments. Gravel tyres are designed to perform on dirt.
Are you actually running on Speedplays on your gravel rides? 😮 How do they work in dirty conditions or during walking sections? Looking out for some but everyone keeps telling me to forget them, not suitable blabla 😊
Sorry for the late reply. Yes I was and switched back to normal road pedals. However i did not have any issues with the speedplay cleats on the dirt. Never Poland to walk but have stoped numerous amounts of times and had no problems. You would want to lubricate the cleats every now and again. I only use road pedals on gravel as it just feels better and your foot is more stable.
Surely everything I do is in my own opinion however it based off testing on certain terrain and pressures. It’s not just riding but riding on mixed surfaces with different tyres pressures, and with the bike I used, the Giant Revolt using the flip chip both ways surely it is test. One does not need raw data to determine this as the change is enough to get from a real ride feel.
Nice review. Thank you for the honesty and good explanation. Your conclusion has been my experience as well. Bigger to a point is good for sure. Knowing the limit of where too big becomes diminishing return, and a negative in terms of unnecessary added weight and decreased aerodynamics, is a key thing to know. 47-50 is light MTB territory and should be used as such. For gravel 38-43 seems to be a sweet spot, perhaps slightly smaller for all out racing. Mostly roads and 32 fits the bill nicely.
Thanks for the kind words, it is always my opinion and experience however it could be of some help to others and that is the point.
@@massimoguglielmisa Definitely a help to any who hear. Thanks again and keep up the good videos and reviews.👍
Good and informative, thanks Massimo
Glad you liked it! My pleasure.
Very cool, thank you! 😎
Hi , it will be nice to know the real weight of those tyres .Thanks .
Manufacturer lists them at 550g. Can always add a few grams to what they list.
@@massimoguglielmisa I ended up buying the tufo tire gravel thundero 700 x 48c weight weighed 478 and 491 they are good , thanks anyway .
I've used the terinno tires for the last to cross seasons they stay on the rim really nice and will never burp when running super low pressures
Also never had burping on them. Really not a bad tyre at all just not a fast tyre for the racing snakes.
I’ve run this as a rear tire with the zero for the front both 38mm with great success
Most bikes come out with the 38C. Very popular tyre and I know of someone who has put them through their paces with good results and no issues.
So you encountered no tire rub in the short setting using the 47's?
Hey there. Nope. Bear in mind my inner rim width is 19.2mm however still measures 47mm pumped to desired pressure.
I think if you tried a wider rim your tire dynamics would change, 19 is more road sized in my opinion.
True. Wider rims weren’t accessible at the time however the minimum tyre pressure still remains from manufacture. But as I have said these are pretty great and roll really well on the current rim as apposed to the 50C and or the flip chip on the longer wheelbase setting. So with the current setup they really rolling well. Also not everyone will be using wider rims out the box either so it was good to see how they are on these.
Hi what's better this or the maxxis rambler?
Hi. From what i see on paper the rambler looks faster. Think it’s a great tire as i have an athlete using a set. But again it will depend on terrain, pressure and what width you looking at. Most tests are done with the narrower versions and also not in real world environments. Gravel tyres are designed to perform on dirt.
Are you actually running on Speedplays on your gravel rides? 😮 How do they work in dirty conditions or during walking sections? Looking out for some but everyone keeps telling me to forget them, not suitable blabla 😊
Sorry for the late reply. Yes I was and switched back to normal road pedals. However i did not have any issues with the speedplay cleats on the dirt. Never Poland to walk but have stoped numerous amounts of times and had no problems. You would want to lubricate the cleats every now and again. I only use road pedals on gravel as it just feels better and your foot is more stable.
Hi! its 650b or 700c?
Hi. They are 700c.
Sadly, it’s not recommended for hookless rims 😢
this is an OPINION piece, no testing at all!
Surely everything I do is in my own opinion however it based off testing on certain terrain and pressures. It’s not just riding but riding on mixed surfaces with different tyres pressures, and with the bike I used, the Giant Revolt using the flip chip both ways surely it is test. One does not need raw data to determine this as the change is enough to get from a real ride feel.