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  • @shounic
    @shounic  6 дней назад +2695

    edit: hi hi, just wanna say be cautious about the 16k number. the whole thing is super noisy. we can't really know the wave size unless bot hosters want to tell us exactly how much they went up or down by.
    the 16k is mixed in with normal players coming in and out from steam maintenance, it could be idle bots being affected (they didn't come back, or got banned too lol), the timing steam polled player numbers, etc. regardless though it did look different to the previous tuesday downtime on the charts, there was two system messages* sent out about server downtime, where the last time they did that was (apparently) once on Oct 1, 2022, and you can hop in game and see the very clear lack of bots. i'm not aware of any exhaustive up to date list of bots globally so it'd be hard to make any estimations of the wave size. sorry if i caused any confusion here :>
    * tf2 system messages: x.com/TFSysMessages
    topic 2: i can't personally verify it but community bans are seemingly a big tent that encapsulates lots of varying kinds of bans underneath it. i've gotten reports that community bans do block access to VAC servers, and this reply (to this comment) that's seemingly a good summary of the lay of things:
    @polistirex
    Hi shounic, wanted to say, community bans will in some occasions but not always prevent you from joining a VAC secured server. I have several accounts which are marked as community banned that cannot join any valve server and in one case access the steam library at all. There are different ban reasons. If your ban is for any kind of account fraud OR game abuse like most bot accounts, it will be completely restricted. The same goes if you are caught buying an account off G2A for example.
    here's 30 mins of me running around looking for bots
    ruclips.net/video/3R2QRiH6cHQ/видео.html
    ruclips.net/video/4brSl210Z88/видео.html
    ruclips.net/video/DZ0gGRjZPuE/видео.html

    • @borisjekyll
      @borisjekyll 6 дней назад +17

      As far as I know, there are also ZERO bots in Serbia servers, very rare occasion

    • @Deezsirrer
      @Deezsirrer 6 дней назад +2

      Just let the game die man. We need more r6s player

    • @lordghetsisofficial
      @lordghetsisofficial 6 дней назад +74

      @@Deezsirrer r6s is boring

    • @spawnpoint111
      @spawnpoint111 6 дней назад +1

      @@Deezsirreri hope you die within the next year

    • @manender1020
      @manender1020 6 дней назад +48

      ​@@Deezsirrerno sentinent being will ever support untersoft

  • @absoultethings4213
    @absoultethings4213 6 дней назад +13204

    Wave defeated, but there are more to come. Get to an upgrade station before they return.

  • @_sukuratchi
    @_sukuratchi 6 дней назад +9341

    No way are valve on the treadmill finally

    • @MadContendery
      @MadContendery 6 дней назад +606

      they finally losing weight

    • @_sukuratchi
      @_sukuratchi 6 дней назад +264

      @@MadContenderythe weight lost are the bots getting banned

    • @biasneeze
      @biasneeze 6 дней назад +9

      waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    • @youtubeuniversity3638
      @youtubeuniversity3638 6 дней назад +18

      ​@@_sukuratchi They dropped the fists of steel!

    • @rudolph2937
      @rudolph2937 6 дней назад +200

      They are not. This is merely *one* banwave. As of now there's no reason to believe Valve will keep maintaining the game and prevent further bot problems.
      Do not stop protesting

  • @wigmanmania259
    @wigmanmania259 6 дней назад +1469

    Classic Valve
    >do nothing
    >then do something and say nothing

    • @Golygt42
      @Golygt42 6 дней назад +171

      tbh I like the idea of them doing something and not saying anything. Yeah it keeps real players in the dark but it also keeps the hosters on their toes even more

    • @theminerooms
      @theminerooms 5 дней назад +36

      Then go straight back into doing notting

    • @stevefan8283
      @stevefan8283 5 дней назад +22

      typical introvert behavior

    • @zt02ks0x
      @zt02ks0x 5 дней назад +12

      kinda gigachad move

    • @samholdsworth420
      @samholdsworth420 5 дней назад

      ​@@stevefan8283typical incel comment

  • @JUUDOLF
    @JUUDOLF 6 дней назад +719

    I saw a post about Valve putting bans on bot accounts but giving the connected main account(s) a warning. In other words, if Valve has detected that you have an account linked to the banned bots (how, I do not know, IP/MAC matches maybe), the host can still keep their main account. And if they continue hosting bots, then all of their accounts are affected.
    In other words, Valve is now trying just to scare off the bot hosters. No real fix to TF2 has been made, not even a tweak to the Source Engine.
    Personally I'd love to see some proper legal action against the bot hosters to put some actual pressure on them but beggars can't choosers. And I expect the bots to be back within a week.

    • @Pamlo_
      @Pamlo_ 6 дней назад +22

      It would be great, and actually a pretty good solution to this

    • @NerfPlayeR135
      @NerfPlayeR135 6 дней назад +75

      Legal action isn't an option if the bot hosters live in Russia, sadly.

    • @TheR00ndar
      @TheR00ndar 6 дней назад +10

      ​@@NerfPlayeR135they could invest in General Dynamics lmao

    • @jimwormmaster
      @jimwormmaster 6 дней назад +1

      @@TheR00ndar You'd have to get in the Habit of Crossing Lines to go that far, probably, lol

    • @ipaqmaster
      @ipaqmaster 6 дней назад +16

      This is great news. The worst part of this has been the lack of consequences. Using limited evidence to tie to main accounts and warn them is such a good thing.

  • @AcidTehObjectThingyIsBack
    @AcidTehObjectThingyIsBack 6 дней назад +3733

    Literally TF2 cycle:
    Its over > ITS NOT OVER > Its over > ITS NOT OVER

    • @Myranos
      @Myranos 6 дней назад +69

      Tf2 is like Desinc, im fine, IM NOT FINE, im fine

    • @P1CKL3_RICK
      @P1CKL3_RICK 6 дней назад +176

      It’s over
      We’re so back
      It’s over
      We’re so back

    • @EmberTheFlareon3579
      @EmberTheFlareon3579 6 дней назад +38

      This reminds me of everytime Sora ends his combo saying, "It's over!" Even though the boss still has like 10 bars of HP to go through.

    • @leithaziz2716
      @leithaziz2716 6 дней назад +12

      IT'S NOT OVER YET, SNAKE!

    • @mrxy201
      @mrxy201 6 дней назад +8

      it's over
      WE'RE BACK
      IT'S SO OVER
      *WE'RE SO BACK*

  • @davymachinegun5130
    @davymachinegun5130 6 дней назад +2689

    WAVE COMPLETE
    GET TO AN UPGRADE STATION

  • @Dr_Weirdoo
    @Dr_Weirdoo 6 дней назад +155

    The man who sacrified his Pwnage Saxxy to the Chaos Gods:
    *they called me a madman*

    • @Ronesby
      @Ronesby 5 дней назад +5

      I was online for that alert and had to do a double take

    • @VEE0034
      @VEE0034 5 дней назад

      What are you talking about

    • @pututunik8748
      @pututunik8748 4 дня назад +12

      ​@@VEE0034you know the saxxy statue melee right? the one that is so few and so rare that you can't get it anymore?
      well, a day before the ban someone melt it into scraps in a casual which shocked everyone

    • @glennjoshuamangabat2750
      @glennjoshuamangabat2750 День назад +1

      @@VEE0034 those saxxys are only given to tf2 animation team winners back then. So they are very rare.

    • @BulletSponge71436
      @BulletSponge71436 День назад

      @@pututunik8748 Holy cow... Just like that? I wonder what was that person's reason to do that...

  • @henrym5908
    @henrym5908 6 дней назад +102

    In CS2 Valve is doing a thing where farming accounts are being silently banned; they seem to be VAC banned but there is nothing publicly visible on the account to indicate that it was banned, they just can't join official servers. farming bots used to be everywhere for months but I haven't seen any in a while now.

  • @drgabi18
    @drgabi18 6 дней назад +4889

    -0:18-- Now that the bots are gone, we can observe the natural TF2 player talking in chat-
    EDIT: It seems shou has censored the chat, respectfully so, since it was a bad taste shock comment about sexually assaulting Mr Beast because the natural TF2 player loves male pregnancy. Yeah...
    To not make this comment contempt, at 0:33 we can observe the natural TF2 player's sexual orientation

    • @punishedostrich8729
      @punishedostrich8729 6 дней назад +157

      bruh

    • @GewelReal
      @GewelReal 6 дней назад +270

      dear god

    • @mefrfr26
      @mefrfr26 6 дней назад +352

      ignorance was bliss

    • @ZuraTheCat
      @ZuraTheCat 6 дней назад +248

      I can't believe people just share so openly about that shit...
      welcome to team fortress 2 after 9 years in development, hopefully it was worth the wait

    • @MetaIIicaX
      @MetaIIicaX 6 дней назад +109

      I wonder if he kept that clip in intentionally lol

  • @aname.whatdidyouexpect1877
    @aname.whatdidyouexpect1877 6 дней назад +5322

    Could this be possibly the rare and unheard of "treadmill work"?

    • @_Shadows__
      @_Shadows__ 6 дней назад +11

      whats that

    • @Manu0jedi
      @Manu0jedi 6 дней назад

      @@_Shadows__ work

    • @kayagorzan
      @kayagorzan 6 дней назад +201

      @@_Shadows__It’s when you do work while walking on a treadmill

    • @WhatIsTheHeat
      @WhatIsTheHeat 6 дней назад +38

      ​@@_Shadows__It's where you run faster because you are stressed

    • @Thegentechgamer
      @Thegentechgamer 6 дней назад +207

      ​@@_Shadows__ it's when valve manually bans 10k bots but then immediately see 10k new bot accounts made, so all the work they did got them nowhere, like running on a treadmill gets you nowhere

  • @squadbroken962
    @squadbroken962 6 дней назад +44

    They haven't gotten on the treadmill just yet, but they're putting on the sweatpants

  • @V2_gamingorsmth
    @V2_gamingorsmth 6 дней назад +21

    "You've pushed them back.. For now. Get to an upgrade station for the next wave."

  • @anironfarm6056
    @anironfarm6056 6 дней назад +1622

    The tf2 cycle
    > Casual is infected with bots
    > #SaveTf2 #FixTf2
    > Ban wave
    > Casual no longer infested with bots
    > Complaints stop
    > Valve moves on
    > Bots slowly trickle in over two years
    > Casual is infested with bots again
    > Repeat indefinitely

  • @clownimpregnator
    @clownimpregnator 6 дней назад +2955

    Clickbait?
    OH LOL NOT

    • @guscox9651
      @guscox9651 6 дней назад +41

      Lol i had to check the date

    • @Splarkszter
      @Splarkszter 6 дней назад +19

      I expected a catch but there weren't any. I'm proud of shounic.

    • @SwashBucket1987
      @SwashBucket1987 6 дней назад +5

      Same exact reaction here.

    • @ThePowerofCutleries
      @ThePowerofCutleries 6 дней назад +12

      Shounic doesn't really do clickbait. Generally, his videos are as titled.

    • @snackermantm105
      @snackermantm105 6 дней назад +3

      Are you calling him a traitor?
      Dont be rude.

  • @torinohalloran1937
    @torinohalloran1937 5 дней назад +7

    "human grit always beats robot magic" - Jane doe

  • @mmccluer5704
    @mmccluer5704 6 дней назад +22

    It took us 5 fucking years for us to finally beat that first wave.

  • @hawkinrus6415
    @hawkinrus6415 6 дней назад +2530

    I get a feeling that the "treadmill" problem of infinitely banning bot accounts would become a staple of TF2 from now on, i just hope that bot hosters would eventually get bored of it and move on

    • @papahemmy8587
      @papahemmy8587 6 дней назад +317

      It’s been like 5 years since bots really became a problem, I think it’s safe to say they’re in it for the long haul.

    • @unquestionableexistance8704
      @unquestionableexistance8704 6 дней назад +147

      Bored is not an option when TF2 and csgo are money making machines

    • @bizboy6036
      @bizboy6036 6 дней назад

      ​@@papahemmy8587doeshotter and magic sparkle are both gone. Some of them do get bored with it eventually

    • @Gencrossbones
      @Gencrossbones 6 дней назад +72

      ​@@unquestionableexistance8704not like they can take enjoyment since the TF2 community the moment a bot joined either kick it immediately or absolutely clobber their bots. I even have a dedicated direct hit battalions backup soldier loadout just for clobbering bots and man its fun seeing those snipers turn into a bloody gib even when theres 5 of them

    • @Splarkszter
      @Splarkszter 6 дней назад +58

      Just make them lose enough money.
      They can only talk if they spend a minimum of 1 dollar.
      So one bot per dollar can add up.
      Unless the requirement of activated steam account should be made. Then is a bit more money lost per account.

  • @norvillerogers4047
    @norvillerogers4047 6 дней назад +1521

    "Is this valve treadmill work?" My brothers in christ, they merely hopped on it for a second. We need to see if they will keep walking.

    • @fantastikboom1094
      @fantastikboom1094 6 дней назад +7

      My brain melted trying to analize this comment.
      Edit: to those who think I'm talking about his statement: I do not. I'm saying debunking a sarcastic joke is unnecessary. That's why I wrote that initially, there's no reason to say this as an answer *to a joke* that didn't even imply what he debunks.

    • @scottmemelord6130
      @scottmemelord6130 6 дней назад +81

      @@fantastikboom1094 It's not that hard to understand?
      He's saying that we don't know if Valve is going to bother to continue doing this or is this just a temporary thing and all the bots will just come back immediately and basically amount to nothing. Because there's no way the bot hosters will give up that easily, the question is will Valve give up first or not?

    • @fantastikboom1094
      @fantastikboom1094 6 дней назад +3

      @@scottmemelord6130 I'm not talking about his obvious statement. I'm talking about why he's even pointing this out. He quotes something that's completely unrelated to what he wrote.

    • @jimmybean420
      @jimmybean420 6 дней назад

      @@fantastikboom1094 bitch if you can't spell Analyze it's no wonder your shit melted

    • @fiqirr
      @fiqirr 6 дней назад +38

      ​@@fantastikboom1094it is, in fact. Completely related to what he wrote.

  • @radtap
    @radtap 6 дней назад +8

    "Guys if we just make one dev actually ban some bots they'll shutup" I give it a week

  • @pseudonomenclature8054
    @pseudonomenclature8054 6 дней назад +34

    I feel like this just means the Summer Update is just around the corner.

    • @capofantasma97
      @capofantasma97 5 дней назад +7

      *summer cosmetics crate and a couple community made maps. They're called updates but they're essentially automated with no work done in them.

    • @pseudonomenclature8054
      @pseudonomenclature8054 5 дней назад

      @@capofantasma97 Well, they are updates. Just not major ones.

  • @DeathBringer097
    @DeathBringer097 6 дней назад +1831

    Damn Valve actually did something

    • @Jackfromshack
      @Jackfromshack 6 дней назад +91

      Probably just typed "enable_cheats 0" which they forgot to, years ago

    • @geko2867
      @geko2867 6 дней назад +81

      @@Jackfromshack
      if (is_bot(player)) {
      ban(player);
      }

    • @clementp7860
      @clementp7860 6 дней назад +5

      i am as impress as you are fellow toaster

    • @dermond
      @dermond 6 дней назад +7

      How much is going to last

    • @Matthew597
      @Matthew597 6 дней назад

      ​@@clementp7860 Reply section becoming a furry convention, 3... 2... 1...

  • @Marx_Ordinola_2007
    @Marx_Ordinola_2007 6 дней назад +1023

    "Oh, a background Casual game to watch while listening to the situation"
    "*checks chat at 0:19*"
    *"...oh"*

    • @lancesmith8298
      @lancesmith8298 6 дней назад +90

      “What could it possibly be?”
      “Just an average Thursday on AO3, it seems”

    • @da703
      @da703 6 дней назад +80

      Even with the bots reduced, the people are still horrible

    • @mrfantasy9583
      @mrfantasy9583 6 дней назад +24

      Well, it is your average tf2 game after all

    • @thecrimsondragon588
      @thecrimsondragon588 6 дней назад +23

      That chat message is an original sentence

    • @rocketpg_9532
      @rocketpg_9532 6 дней назад +3

      the horrors

  • @Timic83tc
    @Timic83tc 6 дней назад +8

    They are back on Oceanic server this morning.

  • @ehzu
    @ehzu 6 дней назад +6

    1:00 that spy knifing the pyro is me lol

  • @m.i.g.2023
    @m.i.g.2023 6 дней назад +930

    0:20 that Red chatter 💀

    • @mutantfreak48
      @mutantfreak48 6 дней назад +40

      and there furries

    • @Vetaul
      @Vetaul 6 дней назад

      Average mental health of a chronically online loser in tf2.

    • @Baratako0
      @Baratako0 6 дней назад +95

      Still better than the average TF2 bot

    • @green929392
      @green929392 6 дней назад +48

      Holy based the man knows what he likes

    • @chekkibrekkiv1.245
      @chekkibrekkiv1.245 6 дней назад +22

      He likes Mr beast alot

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 6 дней назад +212

    This is, completely unironically, with no hyperbole or exaggeration, the single best piece of news I've seen in fucking years.

  • @Lucasberrin
    @Lucasberrin 6 дней назад +3

    0:14
    Chile, Peru and Brazil servers aren't as bot infested as the rest of the world (may I say these are the safest servers rn).
    They're overlooked in comparison with Virginia, where it's most likely you get a botted server.
    In conclusion, give it some time before the bots are fully back.

  • @franciscojavierdelatorreba3554
    @franciscojavierdelatorreba3554 5 дней назад +2

    We may have won the battle but we still havent won the war we shall fight bravely

  • @schhhh
    @schhhh 6 дней назад +463

    so here's what's *probably* happening over at valve:
    they know about fixtf2/savetf2, but fixing the problem would mean getting rid of all bots and most cheaters forever or at least a very long time, which would take a whole company's efforts to do in a timely fashion, and even then, it would take quite a while
    instead of being completely radio silent, they want the tf2 community to know they're working on the problem (even *if* it's just a dozen people) and went through with a ban wave for a very temporary solution for casual
    but like we know, they have so much more data than engineers to work with the data, so even if another ban wave happens, it won't be for at least a few months since a very small portion of hours will be set aside to do that

    • @Del-dee
      @Del-dee 6 дней назад +8

      nice oneshot pfp

    • @Reese-wg7jb
      @Reese-wg7jb 6 дней назад +62

      People are going to see this ban wave and think the problem is solved and then be annoyed when the malicious bot hosters are back again in a year.

    • @spookyscarylamppost3431
      @spookyscarylamppost3431 6 дней назад +24

      ​​@@Reese-wg7jb
      Gentleman, fire up the doxxing machine. (My lawyer advised me to say that this is a joke)

    • @endaburns2121
      @endaburns2121 6 дней назад +9

      engineers? like in tf2?

    • @ST4RDUST
      @ST4RDUST 6 дней назад +19

      There's a larger overarching problem with Steam which is how fast people can create bot accounts and use them to farm for drops in games like Banana or even their other games, and god knows about the cost of having potentially hundreds of thousands of new accounts being added to their databases in a day.

  • @CoolJosh3k
    @CoolJosh3k 6 дней назад +8

    0:31 found a bot
    1:00 “impossible to find a bot”

  • @discountdisco2273
    @discountdisco2273 6 дней назад +2

    Valve found their admin password again. Turns our is was in the janitor's room in a cardboardbox, under 6 porn mags from 1998.

  • @prismo5930
    @prismo5930 6 дней назад +186

    Welp, within the hour a new wave of bots are all online and named some variant of “you can’t ban me”. They are right about this being treadmill work, you’d have to keep up with these manual bans all day

    • @oinkytheink1228
      @oinkytheink1228 6 дней назад +26

      Then hardware ban would be needed but vpns are probably happening

    • @prismo5930
      @prismo5930 6 дней назад +1

      @@oinkytheink1228 IP and HWID bans wouldn’t stop the bot hosters, I’m sure they use virtual machines to an extent, which in itself is extremely difficult to pinpoint

    • @Jewls1
      @Jewls1 6 дней назад +65

      This is exactly what happened back in 2017~, Valve bans around 200k bots from TF2 and in the span of a week they all come back.
      I suspect with this ban wave they targeted cheater bots but even then they'll most likely be back up within the week. The people behind these bot nets are wayyy too dedicated on keeping their cheater bots online and ruining people's fun in a 17 year old game.

    • @jesusnetero9226
      @jesusnetero9226 6 дней назад +13

      Tf2 is hitting 90k players as of right now, all bots are completely back. Pointless video.

    • @xora7490
      @xora7490 6 дней назад +5

      the game needs to be $40 again

  • @blacklight683
    @blacklight683 6 дней назад +241

    quick! play before they are remade

    • @ruzgar1372
      @ruzgar1372 6 дней назад +91

      3 days, yes we all have 3 days to live!

    • @leanmaxine1555
      @leanmaxine1555 6 дней назад +30

      Three days later: [Next round of MVM cue plays]

    • @user-bb8fx2yh3k
      @user-bb8fx2yh3k 6 дней назад +20

      We can’t stop protesting, if they come back? We keep protesting. If we stop, we ourselves are refusing to do the very “treadmill work” that has held tf2 in its state for this long. Valves done something finally, and I believe the finish line to be near. Do not give up hope, because as a wise, lead poisened man once said:
      “IF FIGHTING IS SURE TO RESULT IN VICTORY, THEN YOU MUST FIGHT!”

    • @Thomas-vn6cr
      @Thomas-vn6cr 6 дней назад

      ​@@user-bb8fx2yh3k thats a beautiful sentiment. The protest is indeed a treadmill job.

    • @TheAsh56
      @TheAsh56 6 дней назад

      @@user-bb8fx2yh3k dear god

  • @Ivyvix
    @Ivyvix 4 дня назад +19

    “They’ll soon be back”
    “And in greater numbers”

  • @Malog.
    @Malog. 5 дней назад +1

    This is good, but don't let off the pressure, make sure this continues.

  • @lennyface5314
    @lennyface5314 6 дней назад +317

    0:22 don't let the good news blind you from this beautiful chat message

    • @sosotik
      @sosotik 6 дней назад

      mr breast

    • @endarkenedgd
      @endarkenedgd 6 дней назад +5

      was about to mention that

    • @jacksonpercy8044
      @jacksonpercy8044 6 дней назад +21

      I love the unfiltered nature of TF2. Sucks when it gets abused, but it's worth it

    • @bepo8958
      @bepo8958 6 дней назад +3

      lol wtf

    • @cool_waffle8492
      @cool_waffle8492 6 дней назад +15

      The most sane TF2 player:

  • @exwum
    @exwum 6 дней назад +37

    This video literally bought so many players back to tf2. I watched in real-time as people joined and asked "are the bots gone?"

  • @retrobat1631
    @retrobat1631 6 дней назад +2

    Now we have to keep pushing for this.

  • @linkly9272
    @linkly9272 6 дней назад +1

    I was playing on the trenches server when this update happened, and I remember joking about how awesome it would be if there were a manual ban wave. I’m shocked they actually did something

  • @I-Stole-Your-Toast700
    @I-Stole-Your-Toast700 6 дней назад +512

    okay one or two or all of 3 things happened
    1: valve did something and actually, forever, fixed the bots-ish
    2: bots giving us false hope
    3: bot hosters got busted/bored
    4:sex 2 was released

    • @leanmaxine1555
      @leanmaxine1555 6 дней назад +67

      Valve likely did something, as it appears that, although bots are man-managed, they can be uploaded and left alone with a simple algorithm. Recently the creators tied them in with the #FixTF2 movement, so this will significantly hinder progress to snuff out who is what by those merits.
      But beyond that, we can only hope this is a proper fix, just keep tabs from three days to a week. A month at best if you really wanna be patient.

    • @nacun4740
      @nacun4740 6 дней назад +37

      since they are still SOME bots that means either they did a manual botting wave which means those bots have the same cheats or they did something that detects those cheats and those other bots are using different type of it

    • @hamsikral3055
      @hamsikral3055 6 дней назад +25

      None of them. Valve just banned bots for them to turn back like in 5 days
      Edit: I am not telling that it is %100 useless. Just telling this is a weak step. That doesnt means be pessimistic.

    • @callumari5762
      @callumari5762 6 дней назад +5

      @@hamsikral3055 Yeah I was gonna say, I don't think any of these things happened

    • @ketchup901
      @ketchup901 6 дней назад +15

      @@hamsikral3055 Community: "Valve, please ban the bots"
      Valve: bans the bots
      Community: Wow what a weak step
      ???
      Seriously what the hell do you people want?

  • @TeufortHeavy
    @TeufortHeavy 6 дней назад +145

    that's a start.

    • @GewelReal
      @GewelReal 6 дней назад +3

      Heavy Weapons Guy, what is your wisdom

    • @TeufortHeavy
      @TeufortHeavy 6 дней назад +18

      @@GewelReal sandvich.

    • @MoonLmao
      @MoonLmao 6 дней назад +3

      holy crap tf2 heavy real

    • @Dushess
      @Dushess 5 дней назад

      @@TeufortHeavy is nice

  • @parasocks1613
    @parasocks1613 5 дней назад +1

    I wonder if Valve saying absolutely nothing is a tactical move they use while locking onto all the bots they can find so nobody expects the banwave

  • @Saxxy_Mann
    @Saxxy_Mann 6 дней назад +3

    “Monsueir, does this mean…team fortress is back?” “No”

  • @danyloboy1477
    @danyloboy1477 6 дней назад +506

    Valve is finally doing something good

    • @alphik2020
      @alphik2020 6 дней назад +5

      Not for long

    • @realdragon
      @realdragon 6 дней назад +22

      In 2 weeks when bots are back you will complain again that "VALVE isn't doing anything"

    • @redwarrior118
      @redwarrior118 6 дней назад

      ​@@realdragon well yeah if they can just make more bots it's pointless. I hope they did something to prevent bots from populating servers

    • @realdragon
      @realdragon 6 дней назад +10

      @@redwarrior118 It is pointless but try explaining it to TF2 community which doesn't want to wait for actual solution but they want this.
      Bots will come back, players will boycott game again. The treadmill problem aren't bots but trying to shut people who think banning bots forever takes 2 lines of code

    • @Sleepy_Cabbage
      @Sleepy_Cabbage 6 дней назад

      fingers crossed

  • @HaartieeTRUE
    @HaartieeTRUE 6 дней назад +99

    For everyone saying 'finally' or variants of it:
    lol no. Wait to celebrate in about 6 months or so, when and if the problem is clear it is not coming back. Until then, assume nothing is going to change, else we'll just repeat savetf2's premature celebration after the simple banwave, slight rework and valve response.

    • @ziphy_6471
      @ziphy_6471 6 дней назад +7

      What's wrong with being a little happy when Valve starts to do something and not stopping yet?

    • @redzgaming6880
      @redzgaming6880 6 дней назад +17

      @@ziphy_6471 He's not saying you shouldn't be happy, he's just saying not to celebrate yet. The bots could be back anywhere between three days from no to a year, just because Valve seemingly listened to us doesn't mean that thier solution was permanent.

    • @korjezilla
      @korjezilla 6 дней назад +7

      ​@@ziphy_6471
      They did ONE day of bans
      Or maybe one week
      That doesn't matter. The more we celebrate the more early they'll stop doing this.
      Bans shouldn't be the only thing
      SUE THE HOSTERS

    • @ziphy_6471
      @ziphy_6471 6 дней назад +2

      @@korjezilla Most of the comments here are still hoping the protest will continue after this and Valve will continue to do this

    • @user-ty3cq7nm8x
      @user-ty3cq7nm8x 5 дней назад +1

      ​@@ziphy_6471 I think that's what they are telling us. Keep in mind only a arund a dozen people at Valve work on TF2 anymore, this is probably their way of telling us that they have been working on the problem, and gave us a temporary solution to hold us off for a bit while they keep working on a more permanant fix.

  • @Enivoke
    @Enivoke 3 дня назад +1

    This aged like milk. the bots are BACK in full force, more than before.

  • @phantomkillerprime8444
    @phantomkillerprime8444 День назад +1

    I mean, I found 3 at 8pm eastern standard. But they got banned mid match about 30 seconds after the round started.

  • @blamedrop
    @blamedrop 6 дней назад +39

    Great!
    As a side note, I've just checked and from 33 accounts I've reported >2 months ago (but I have no idea if anyone read that email at all, lol!), 14 are VAC banned ("1 VAC ban on record", "33 day(s) since last ban") and 19 are deleted.
    Cheers!

    • @Golygt42
      @Golygt42 6 дней назад +5

      Makes me wonder if some of the bots I’ve blocked, just to keep record of, are banned. I mean I assume so since I haven’t seen that variant of the bot in game forever now

    • @mrrooter601
      @mrrooter601 5 дней назад

      is there a way to check accounts you reported after the fact through steam or are you like writing them down and checking manually?

  • @standard-carrier-wo-chan
    @standard-carrier-wo-chan 6 дней назад +157

    Banning bots is an endeavour akin to Sisyphus pushing a boulder up a mountain, but it's not about the unreachable goal of having 0 people exploiting the game, it's about the steps taken to get there. Hope that Valve is finally doing something, but don't let up the pressure just yet. We need to watch over them and make sure they do everything in their power to actually address TF2's problems.

    • @ziphy_6471
      @ziphy_6471 6 дней назад +8

      "Treadmill work"

    • @meowdderall
      @meowdderall 6 дней назад +3

      one must imagine valve happy

  • @reworld5030
    @reworld5030 5 дней назад +2

    Now valve needs to give f2p chat back

  • @FirstnameLastname-sb3hj
    @FirstnameLastname-sb3hj 22 часа назад +2

    keep it up! don't let the pressure off until TF2 is *properly* fixed! #FixTF2 !! make sure the bots don't come back!!

  • @Average_Deku
    @Average_Deku 6 дней назад +36

    i played a few games in a row yesterday all without bots and it genuinely felt like something was missing 😭

  • @hanro50
    @hanro50 6 дней назад +92

    They will likely keep doing it in waves. How long before the next ban wave is hard to say. You want to annoy cheat devs, so banning bot accounts as soon as they join is a bad move.
    Instead, flag them and then ban them after some arbitrary timespan. That way, the cheat devs don't know what got them flagged, and it is harder to figure out how to avoid detection.
    Beyond this, Valve could also be starting to crack down on botted steam account generation. Which will make ban waves a lot more meaningful.

    • @Haze_of_dream
      @Haze_of_dream 6 дней назад +15

      > Instead, flag them and then ban them after some arbitrary timespan. That way, the cheat devs don't know what got them flagged
      VAC already does this, While this works for closet cheaters that are actual humans or cheatmakers that advertise undetectable cheats, This doesn't apply to bot hosters that have blantant spinbots that only want to disrupt the game as much as possible

    • @kampfer91
      @kampfer91 6 дней назад

      The real way is to find the real bot hoster irl and cancel the fk out of him...., sue them even , confiscate his server and if he is Russian , force him to enlist....

    • @imaforceanature7297
      @imaforceanature7297 6 дней назад +2

      We’re heading into a generation of ai, everytime they ban a bot account it should also go into a database to train an AI to detect them. Even if bot creators avoid the thing that flagged them, many common points will continually show their face over time.

    • @kampfer91
      @kampfer91 6 дней назад +3

      The only way is to find the real bot hoster and cancel him out....if he wants attention we give him the real attention ...( I think a youtube bot have been assigned to me to delete any comment i made ) .

    • @mishagaming1075
      @mishagaming1075 6 дней назад +2

      @@kampfer91omegatronic? yeah he gets enough.

  • @samttk359
    @samttk359 6 дней назад

    They're all back again, time for another session on the treadmill valve

  • @thegodofalldragons
    @thegodofalldragons 5 часов назад +1

    Valve realized releasing a new multiplayer game while holding the reputation for letting their multiplayer games rot was a bad idea.

  • @ruzgar1372
    @ruzgar1372 6 дней назад +765

    As if they wont be back in 3 days.

    • @why8569
      @why8569 6 дней назад +23

      I mean to be fair I haven’t seen any bots in like a week or two.

    • @phyog4662
      @phyog4662 6 дней назад +301

      most thankful and optimistic tf2 fan

    • @tri--light
      @tri--light 6 дней назад

      oh my god stop being such a little pessimistic bitch

    • @ruzgar1372
      @ruzgar1372 6 дней назад +80

      @@phyog4662 Does my tone of speech change the fact?

    • @bruhmoment9220
      @bruhmoment9220 6 дней назад +6

      way 2 express any form of gratitude lol

  • @sorelightt
    @sorelightt 6 дней назад +478

    Valve: "Banning bots was a treadmil work"

    • @tacostuff9600
      @tacostuff9600 6 дней назад +36

      Feeding his son was treadmill work, so gabe stopped.

    • @HappyGingerWolf
      @HappyGingerWolf 6 дней назад +42

      Treadmill work is such a joke term, the word they're looking for is "basic maintenance"

    • @Splarkszter
      @Splarkszter 6 дней назад +29

      ​@@HappyGingerWolf "Banning 10k bots manually and see 10k new bot accounts the next day loosing all progress just like walking on the treadmill get's you nowhere."

    • @Grandmaster-Kush
      @Grandmaster-Kush 6 дней назад

      They found out breathing air was treadmill work, after that every Volvo employee was found dead on site

    • @kyperactive
      @kyperactive 6 дней назад +9

      This joke is so overdone...

  • @blupikmin
    @blupikmin 5 дней назад +1

    Im so glad valve got us an early summer gift

  • @thogtwo
    @thogtwo 6 дней назад +251

    you can thank me, guys. It was actually me who banned all the bots.

    • @leanmaxine1555
      @leanmaxine1555 6 дней назад +3

      ...Who are you again?

    • @tomfreeman3816
      @tomfreeman3816 6 дней назад +46

      Thanks :3

    • @mesuthaktan6330
      @mesuthaktan6330 6 дней назад +7

      thank you good sir

    • @Diddlyy
      @Diddlyy 6 дней назад +88

      @@leanmaxine1555 he's the guy who banned all the bots, duh! Can't you read?

    • @ratcrusher3251
      @ratcrusher3251 6 дней назад +42

      @@leanmaxine1555 thats the guy who banned all the bots

  • @DEWILL
    @DEWILL 6 дней назад +57

    Hope they get ON the treadmill correctly this time.

    • @leanmaxine1555
      @leanmaxine1555 6 дней назад +3

      Chances are if we hear glass shattering and screaming, they're probably running it backwards.

    • @endarkenedgd
      @endarkenedgd 6 дней назад +3

      @@leanmaxine1555 don't forget the stock cat screaming sound effect

    • @Trianull
      @Trianull 6 дней назад +4

      Yeah I've got the feeling they just walked over the treadmill this time...

    • @ziphy_6471
      @ziphy_6471 6 дней назад +2

      They ate too many cheetoes

  • @ApocAnarchy
    @ApocAnarchy 6 дней назад

    Man this better be only the beginning!!

  • @bruno_fromjojo7343
    @bruno_fromjojo7343 6 дней назад

    Finally the moment has come

  • @MaverickHunterDaniel
    @MaverickHunterDaniel 6 дней назад +14

    Wow, I'm impressed to see SOMETHING being done about this issue. The janitor, potted plant and intern deserve a raise for sure.

  • @matteolenz
    @matteolenz 6 дней назад +67

    "don't give me hope"

    • @zeta0590
      @zeta0590 6 дней назад +6

      Fr

    • @droopy_eyes
      @droopy_eyes 6 дней назад

      Developers doing visible work.
      Community: "fuck off!".
      Developer: 🥲

    • @matteolenz
      @matteolenz 6 дней назад +2

      @@droopy_eyes i said it as a meme, of course i hope they actually do something after all these years, just don't get me hyped and then disappear again

  • @ItsEvanHere
    @ItsEvanHere 4 дня назад +1

    WAVE COMPLETED
    [ Get to an upgrade station ]

  • @NoxMox
    @NoxMox 6 дней назад

    what, no way, how, this is truly epic

  • @TKsh1
    @TKsh1 6 дней назад +31

    Thank you Janitor for your continuous work on TF2! At least he's listening!

  • @metalclawsteelheart
    @metalclawsteelheart 6 дней назад +38

    Imagine how funny it would be if the omega r34 is what convinced valve to do something. Just like "NOPE. WE'RE NOT HAVING THAT."

    • @thedarter
      @thedarter 6 дней назад

      The what now

    • @DOCTOR_ERROR_
      @DOCTOR_ERROR_ 6 дней назад +1

      @@thedarteryou don’t wanna know

    • @thedarter
      @thedarter 6 дней назад

      @@DOCTOR_ERROR_ on second thought you're absolutely right

    • @ziphy_6471
      @ziphy_6471 6 дней назад +11

      Valve when bot hosters spread cp : I sleep
      Valve when OMEGATRONIC gay porn : real shit

    • @fantastikboom1094
      @fantastikboom1094 6 дней назад

      @@DOCTOR_ERROR_ I wanna know

  • @HoneydewSoda
    @HoneydewSoda 6 дней назад

    I don't think I've ever been happier to have tf2 news on my timeline thank you 🙏

  • @tomdolben
    @tomdolben 6 дней назад +136

    0:28 no bots but it still tf2 (chat)

  • @buggerofallhell1153
    @buggerofallhell1153 6 дней назад +33

    We need to continue the pressure the hosters are gonna make more bots dont stop the demands ever

    • @TheGreenTaco999
      @TheGreenTaco999 6 дней назад +3

      Who would ever want to do anything for a guy like you when this is how you respond to getting your way

    • @demomantf2476
      @demomantf2476 6 дней назад +4

      ​@@TheGreenTaco999what.

    • @showmesomethingrandom4163
      @showmesomethingrandom4163 6 дней назад +4

      @@TheGreenTaco999 okay... remember what happened last time? with savetf2?
      your response makes no sense and has no actual meaning to this movement
      at least bugger is saying something useful

    • @demomantf2476
      @demomantf2476 6 дней назад +1

      @@TheGreenTaco999 So you suggest just stopping here and now? Mf what about the "cheese pizza" bots? What about megascatter's house being raided by SWAT because of false claims by bot hosters? This isnt just about a silly game anymore, they officially hit a new low that should be punishable by law.

    • @jrperry1611
      @jrperry1611 3 дня назад

      When were we pressuring the hosters in the first place? The way you’ve worded this makes you sound like a valve employee.

  • @Fiery919
    @Fiery919 6 дней назад

    Yesterday I got to experience the fixtf2 bonk bots, those were so scary dude, the whole server was shivering

  • @sentienttaco9134
    @sentienttaco9134 6 дней назад +1

    Can't wait for Valve to proceed to think that's enough and do nothing else.

  • @InfernalBanana
    @InfernalBanana 6 дней назад +22

    Remember: this isn’t a win yet. It’s a start, but without a more permanent fix, the FixTF2 movement needs to continue.

  • @Lethal_Spoon
    @Lethal_Spoon 6 дней назад +13

    1:00 soldier in pink is a cheater, he’s racked up quite a few bans

    • @denizatik6534
      @denizatik6534 6 дней назад +1

      He was the bhopping trolldier right

    • @Lethal_Spoon
      @Lethal_Spoon 6 дней назад

      @@denizatik6534it’s the one with the butterfly text art name and pink crone’s dome, his name is “Brain” now

  • @YoToffles
    @YoToffles 6 дней назад

    This is the coolest thing ever

  • @mythmakroxymore1670
    @mythmakroxymore1670 6 дней назад

    A breath. A breath before another plunge into madness.

  • @_starrybun
    @_starrybun 6 дней назад +36

    shounic be fr with me oh my god

  • @SomeDestinyPlayer
    @SomeDestinyPlayer 6 дней назад +9

    Gaben put a sapper on the 'little' bot nest the hoster's created:D

  • @cuppedcup5048
    @cuppedcup5048 5 дней назад

    eyyy, back to tf2 again!! i really missed it! (its been 3 months)

  • @dnjtejgpf
    @dnjtejgpf 6 дней назад

    Truly worth the weight.

  • @El-Burrito
    @El-Burrito 6 дней назад +8

    This is a good start, but let's see if they can keep it up

  • @Xandoshi
    @Xandoshi 6 дней назад +238

    remember, just because they vac/deleted the bots, does not mean the protest is over.
    it's not over until they actually fix the game.

    • @lebollsong
      @lebollsong 6 дней назад +1

      Yep

    • @MokonaModokiES
      @MokonaModokiES 6 дней назад +42

      yeah this is just the beginning not the end. We got a reaction. Lets keep this thing going so valve doesnt leave again leading to the return of bots...

    • @Thomas-vn6cr
      @Thomas-vn6cr 6 дней назад +19

      The protest itself is treadmill work. If we can do it, so can they.

    • @GamerzPro1231
      @GamerzPro1231 6 дней назад +6

      There is no fixing the game

    • @david5310
      @david5310 6 дней назад +7

      and how exactly should they "fix" the game?

  • @Ornghawk
    @Ornghawk 6 дней назад

    A surprise but a welcome one, I'm going to load up the game as soon as I can

  • @NGGaming-yv2xx
    @NGGaming-yv2xx 6 дней назад

    we’ve cleaned up the puddle but now they need to close the hole

  • @edfreak9001
    @edfreak9001 6 дней назад +13

    i know the bots will be back or at least attempt to come back, but in this short period I just wanna imagine:
    there are bot hosters someone who are currently scurrying trying to get their bots back online ASAP to make the game unplayable on official servers and I just have to think: why
    the only potential person with real incentive might be someone making money off of software that automizes the process for, whatever reason. And while I hate it, I understand why someone would want to fix that to keep making money. But if it's not that situation, I really don't get why anyone would bother putting the bots back up.

    • @dannyondeeznuts
      @dannyondeeznuts 6 дней назад

      if it’s not about money, then it’s surely for attention

    • @sniperluigi9856VA
      @sniperluigi9856VA 6 дней назад

      because some people are just complete dickheads with nothing better to do

    • @flixsyc256
      @flixsyc256 6 дней назад +3

      The only reason is to hurt others fun. Unfortunately, there is a portion of people who get pleasure out of upsetting people for no reason, and they want to keep doing that. I also think it might be a power trip thing because of their determination to work around Valve's updates.

    • @distorted_heavy
      @distorted_heavy 5 дней назад +3

      They do it because some people take casual being unplayable as a personal insult against everything they hold close. Those people tend to freak out in very funny ways, which they then review through chat logs, forum posts, RUclips videos, etc. They're trolls, plain and simple

    • @gerutzu575
      @gerutzu575 5 дней назад +3

      personally i always thought the bot hosters are secretly working for competing shooter games, trying to take out their competition. it's just a theory but i refuse to believe they are doing this much work and not getting paid for it

  • @nortonm5077
    @nortonm5077 6 дней назад +10

    You're Doin' Good Lad!

  • @Andruieeok
    @Andruieeok 6 дней назад

    Lessss goooooo
    *All possible dances that exist*

  • @Leeloo-Foxx
    @Leeloo-Foxx 5 дней назад

    ive seen a handful of bots here and there today but they're so far and few inbetween that they're insta kicked

  • @strawcoalbean
    @strawcoalbean 6 дней назад +6

    Thank you valve pot plant and janitor, very cool

  • @DrablyOlive
    @DrablyOlive 6 дней назад +9

    I had to check the date if it is April 1st

    • @someidiotwithafryingpan3752
      @someidiotwithafryingpan3752 5 дней назад

      Right? I genuinely wondered for a sec if this was an April Fools’ video I was being recommended three months late.

  • @MVCuber
    @MVCuber 6 дней назад +1

    The guy who deleted his secret saxton in protest just a few hours before:💀

  • @Thomas-vn6cr
    @Thomas-vn6cr 5 дней назад

    Each day I get closer to the Heavy update.

  • @17thFable
    @17thFable 6 дней назад +11

    Shounic is the unsung pillar for this movement.
    Grounded
    Informative
    Straightforward

    • @tappajaav
      @tappajaav 6 дней назад +8

      GIS

    • @zelda_smile
      @zelda_smile 6 дней назад +1

      Groinfstr

    • @darrenchen964
      @darrenchen964 6 дней назад

      Weird how some people see him as defending valve when he’s just giving his insight on valve’s internal structure

    • @tappajaav
      @tappajaav 6 дней назад +2

      @@darrenchen964 Many lack reading comprehension and objective evaluation skills, which is even more apparent in text-based internet conversations

    • @distorted_heavy
      @distorted_heavy 5 дней назад

      ​@@tappajaavthey're literally children most of the time, which explains the lack of reading comprehension and critical thinking

  • @Deifus
    @Deifus 6 дней назад +3

    Thought it was april 1st again somehow 😂😂😂

  • @thatradioboy
    @thatradioboy 5 дней назад

    Haven’t played tf2 since mid-January, good to see that stuff is actually being done.

  • @al_fa610
    @al_fa610 6 дней назад

    I played it two days ago after a long time and the situation was surreal, there were so many bots in the lobbies they kept kicking each other out. They would start vote kicking bots by randomly selecting players in the lobby, and all the other bots voted yes. Glad to see they fixed it, at least for the time being.

  • @CleaverCrusader1987
    @CleaverCrusader1987 6 дней назад +14

    Finally, inner peace

  • @Aysentaro
    @Aysentaro 6 дней назад +5

    oh no not the dreaded treadmill work