Simon asks "where are you going" and it's glowing like when Simon travels between universes. Golbetty isn't gone, but she is most definitely going somewhere.
I still can't believe this spinoff is as good as it is. It really did elevate not just the characters but also the lore of the franchise to a new level.
I think it just represents Betty finally moving on, now that Simon understands the nature of their relationship - and sees that his life has worth without Betty. She knows now, that Simon will be safe without her. Thus, she can move on - No longer tethered to her former mortal existence.
But what happens to the eternal being that is Golb? did she just separate from Golb and her own soul reincarnated into a Comet? or did Golb reincarnate along with her, basically dying?
It's also implied that Golb perceives/interacts with time somewhat nonlinearly, since Golbetty was able to send Simon's mind 1000 years into the future from her void. While Betty briefly interacted with Simon in a more linear, mortal perspective at the end of the encounter, I agree with your take that doing so was basically her detaching herself from the last thing tethering her to a mortal perspective. Likely from Golbetty's nonlinear perspective, that whole encounter with Simon probably occurred directly after she entered her void at the end of AV's finale. Indeed, I'd argue the reason why she immediately left in the finale was specifically so she could go say bye to Simon before finally ascending.
I feel like Betty saying "You were a wonderful experience" might be showing that she's been fused with Golb for so long, she only sees Simon as an "experience".
I mean she is an immortal being that precedes time not like our own seeing how golb is neither here nor there but is everywhere and nowhere all at once so even though it's only been about like 12 years for Simon missing Betty and feeling like his life is worthless and meaningless without her but for Betty it's probably been so long that she can only remember him as being an experience that she once had in a long distance past the she has to remember every so often since she's stuck in a time void where she's able to ponder and think about things that she's done in her past life for basically who knows how long
i heard someone compare it to her becoming an immortal god, simon will be an ever-decreasingly distant past, a small part of the life she will have being golb, while simon saw her as everything, since his life would be so much shorter that the time they spent together may have been a significant part of his life, and she probably wont ever fully leave his mind until he dies (aswell as ice kings obsession with princesses because of simons love for her, and being alive and influenced by that for a 1000 years)
I like how Simon' arc is realizing that his life does have value just like everyone else, so he shouldn’t wear the crown and throw away the many sacrifices Betty made for his life, but the second he thinks she’s gonna eat him he’s like "Oh sweet I don’t have to carry through on that!"
it's more about trust and giving himself to her, even if that does result in death, it's what comes next and he trusts her in this moment to guide him there.
Betty wished to keep Simon safe, first she saved him from Golb, and then again from himself. I think that now that Simon is truly safe, she’s able to separate from Golb.
@@TheSugarrush93 Back when they were both sane,Simon never volunteered to support Betty on her adventures & their relationship is always about Simon's exploration,pushing Betty's goals aside & causing Simon to interact with the crown.If he had just chose to support her interests too,maybe none of this suffering would've happened.
I think at this point Golbetty’s been reborn as something else. There last communication when she got on the bus implies she’s moving on to something, whatever that is Simon can’t understand or follow. Maybe it’s death but just as likely a new life where she can live as herself without obsessing over him. A very adult, and bittersweet ending.
i think it just implies they're moving apart at this point. their destinations are different, so this is where they say goodbye. the bus just helped communicate this to Simon, it doesn't mean Betty is moving on to somewhere new
It's implied that Golb perceives/interacts with time somewhat nonlinearly, since Golbetty was able to send Simon's mind 1000 years into the future from her void. As a result, I feel like her "going" anywhere is mostly metaphorical, as she's already capable of being anywhere at any time. Her choosing to "reincarnate" would be more like her choosing to forget what she is and play make-believe for a little while. While Betty briefly interacted with Simon in a more linear, mortal perspective when saying a final goodbye, I believe this was basically her detaching herself from the last thing tethering her to that mortal perspective. Hence why she turns into Golbetty while in the bus. Likely from Golbetty's nonlinear perspective, that whole encounter with Simon probably occurred directly after she entered her void at the end of AV's finale. Indeed, I'd argue the reason why she immediately left in the finale was specifically so she could go say bye to Simon before finally ascending.
They said it’s “in discussion” but the person who said the first season could happen doesn’t work at max anymore. I’m really hoping they can focus on what happens to the universes f+c visited after they left, especially the vampire and winter king worlds. Idk
Though she may have become a comet, it is also possible that she is still a part of Golb, but since Simon is safe, Golb became the dominant personality again.
What we have to remember is the wording of Betty's wish, it wasn't to "keep simon safe" but for the power to do so which means that even if simon is safe now the crowns wish shouldn't be undone because her wish was for the power, not the cause.
I honestly don't think Golbetty is going back to being Golb since remember when Simon says "where are you going?" And those strange symbols appear so that's probably indicating where she's going and Golbetty is making the same energy signal that Simon uses to make a portal so it looks like Golbetty is heading off somewhere.
I hear a lot of people saying that they wish Betty became human again so Simon and Betty could be together. I think that one of the main points of the show is Simon, realizing how sweet yet unhealthy their relationship was, and let him go that he won’t see her again. But also excepting the fact that he is OK without her. There’s a difference between giving to receive and giving till there’s nothing left. The show is so good and honestly I think it would be so amazing for a season two. So people that work at max. make it happen.
Like yes there relationship was unhealthy however to act like there wasn't any good in it is ridiculous, Also yes the story is about Simon learning his relationship was unhealthy that doesn't mean he still doesn't love Betty, rather that he is now focused on loving himself.
when it aired i was really mad at season 9 of the office for ruining Erin and Andy's relationship. i really shipped them so it was such a kick that felt unfair and like it ruined the show for me. in retrospect i really respect it. it taught me that's how life goes sometimes. we get the cards we're dealt, whether we deal them ourselves or they're dealt to us, and media striving to sate fan's wants and expectations really does a disservice to people who still need to learn that lesson. major major respect to this show for not giving Simon and Betty the cookie cutter ending. thought it was an amazing choice for the finale, and very glad they didn't reneg on it in Fionna & Cake, undoing the poignancy of the lesson the finale taught.
@@samuelhadjaissa5201I think you still missed the point, the show doesn’t demonize there relationship it solely proves again (cause the og shoe also explored this) that it was an unfair relationship where one person sacrificed while another solely benefited. Love can be completed and end bittersweet and it’s okay. That’s life and media should show that more often.
@@m0rgg459 Like yeah I know that the show wasn't demonizing their relationship. Heck do see them parting ways as good thing. However that doesn't mean they don't love each other anymore. Rather that they are now dedicating their lives to loving themselves, they no longer put each other on a pedestal rather that they see themselves as two flawed people who need to work on themselves now.
Okay, I have a wild theory. What if Beth and Shermy isn't Finn and Jake, but Betty and Simon. No, not because Beth and Betty sounds alike, but because GolbBetty send Simon in the mind of Shermy. She could have choose whatever vessel, even Beth herself, but choose that lil guy. I think it's a future reincarnation of Simon. I'm not sure if the same can be said about Beth and Betty for sure, but I like to think their soul are "come in one package", and can reincarnate together to be enternaly together, like in the Distand lands episode, where we see Life mentioning it, and actually shaping and sending two souls to reincarnate together
Wouldn’t it be hilarious if Shermy and Beth were actually Simon and Betty’s reincarnations rather than Finn & Jake’s? While very unlikely, it could explain Simon’s soul being placed in Shermy specifically and Beth’s insights being pretty spot on for Simon & Betty’s relationship (plus their initials match, lol.)
Y’know when Finn was talking to the purple planet thingy he says he started off as a butterfly, which was blue, and we then see a blue butterfly on Simon’s face, could be a close relation
“Everything stays, right where you left it Everything stays, but it still changes Ever so slightly, daily and nightly In little ways, everything stays”
Theory: Shermy and Beth arent reincarnations of Finn and Jake, but Simon and Betty. Shermy and Simon sharing a body during the Casper and Nova episode could be an instance of a single soul, at different incarnations sharing a body.
I definitely at least agree that Shermy and Beth aren't reincarnations of Finn and Jake. None of the confirmed reincarnations of a soul we've seen are remotely similar except maybe the elementals.
That's fair but I wonder what the metaphysical logistics of simon and shermy both being able to chill in shermy's mind are...assuming their soul is one in the same. But I could be overthinking it
You might be onto something. In fact, in AT finale I remember we see Shermy wearing Simon's glasses in BMO's home, and they both look very curious to know the lore behind Finn's arm (just like both Simon and Betty are curious to uncover Ooo's lore)
the idea of betty just unfusing with golb is rather a waste of the entire story she went throught, but i like the idea and it seems interesting to note.
IMO, it looked like she took on a human form the last time we see her. If we ever get a second season, I think we could see her interacting with with the scheming version of Finn’s dad, wherever they are. From Scarab’s files, he still exists somewhere, or at least a version of him.
I said this in the Fiona n Cake explain video but I am very much attached to the thing Scarab said in the end "Becoming canon means you are gonna get the bad stuff too." which hints to "Canon Events" in the Adventurous Multiverse. There are two / three canon events that I think back to: The Hero Comet, the Lich Comet, and the Mushroom War. In order to ensure her own reincarnation isn't like altered due to the governing order, I like to think she is going to become a comet that hits Fiona's World. Even though they chose to not make Simon become Ice King again (which would turn it magical), these Earths of the Adventurous Multiverse are destined to be hit by these Comets. We have Blue = Finn, Green = Lich = Yellow = Jake(?), and Purple which is suppose to be a balanced combination of the red and blue. What if Betty is attempting to either create a new comet or override a comet in Fionnaworld. Fiona is already the blue, Cake is already the Yellow, we don't know what the purple one was suppose to be but the Green is always the Lich, a being that is obsessed with Golb. What if Betty attempts to hi-jack the Green Comet of Fiona World, to become that World's Lich? Or become a new comet that brings magic to Fionna's world, without changing it, so it can be ready for the event of their Green Comet. The Lich is a canon event, the greatest foe to the Blue Comet Hero. Weirdly enough, Fionna World has TWO Blue Souled Heroes. TWO. (Fin's son doesn't count since in that timeline, we see that the Blue comet actually misses the planet when Simon stops the nuke. and I am assuming a comet did occur in BabyWorld) I like the theories that Simon could actually move into Fionnaworld, Simon wasn't in the afterlife, and we have no proof he was reincarnated in that future. As we saw from the credits, the Fiona Fan girl was drawing characters while listening to Simon as he talks about gaming. What if it was the Fan girl who made that Choose Your Own adventure? Simon only assumed it was himself who wrote it cause he was always CHOOSING HIMSELF. If that in mind, there is no proof that shows Simon stays in OOO, all he needs to do, is use that little phone; contact Fionna and Prismo and bam, Simon is back in a world he recognizes, may be even moves in with Simone Ice cream woman lol. And Simon is reunited with Betty when she is incarnated as the magical woman she was when she came to OOO, to give magic to a world that will need it against their destined Lich. This world's agent of Golb.
Good theory except that last part imo. Part of the show is accepting the world you have so simon just getting up and leaving Ooo doesn't really fit with that.
Golb is basically Angra Mainyu from Zoroastrianism. They even reference the yashts, where the hero retrieves his brother from Mainyu's bowels much like Jake does to Finn and Simon.
I want to believe that Simon and Betty will be together again... Just getting there the long way around. And this time as equals instead of duo co-dependence.
The thought that one day Simon and Betty reincarnated could one day fall in love all over again, but do it right that time, is such a sweet wholesome fact, and is a theory that I personally am a huge fan of! :>
I can’t believe Betty's actually gone. I get the lesson and everything. It's just, why does it have to be this way? I wish Betty had taken the way out with Finn and Simon in the finale. They could’ve been happy together. Things would've been ok. 😞
@@samuelhadjaissa5201 i misinterpreted op thinking they were saying 'why didn't Simon and Betty just let Golb digest them, they'd be together'. like, taken that way out. i realized right after i commented and read it again 😅 (clearly they meant why didn't she take the hole out that Simon and Finn took when she instead stayed behind with the crown)
I think it’s more like a doctor Manhattan situation where she sees the bigger picture in life and isn’t losing touch with her humanity but in humanity in general but is bound to protecting ice king due to the wish
I prefer to interpret as Betty finally doing what she needed to do. She is going to chase after her own interests shes going to explore something unknown so Simon and finally experience the trip of self-discovery she wanted to take the whole time.
For me, the bus scene is pretty key to interpreting what happens to Golbetty. I don't see it as Betty defusing and leaving Golb. But more her letting go of the past and moving on to new experiences. Seeing Golbetty on the bus departing to new places unknown. I don't think she split off and I don't think she and Simon will ever see eachother again. I think she's going off to live for herself now to some unknown place. The comet thing feels like a stretch. Five characters on the bus does not suggest 'comet' that's a huge leap IMO. I also see no reason to think that Betty's soul has departed Golb. Because it's Golbetty we see on that bus at the end. It's Golbetty moving on to new experiences, not just Betty. And if it was as simple and mortal as just reincarnation, there wouldn't be the strange alien lettering to give an unknowable eldritch feel. That's just part of the life cycle in Adventure Time. And even if Betty 'did' reincarnate separately I don't see why that would involve her becoming a comet. The point about people not believing in this comet theory 'not wanting to let go of Betty' rings false to me. Seeing Golbetty go off to new experiences and letting her go, is letting her go. Holding onto this reincarnation/comet theory in hopes that Simon and Betty will meet again in another life, THAT is not letting go of Betty. Just because Betty isn't human anymore doesn't mean that her new experiences as Golbetty she's hypothetically moving on to would be less fulfilling or meaningful to her either. There's no indication that s he's suffering or regrets it or would even want to go back. Bringing in Together Again feels like a baffling leap to me. Just because a different story with two different characters ended with reincarnation together doesn't mean that would play out with this different story with two different characters, who have this heartfelt parting of the ways and coming to terms with their past and that there are no do overs. It would completely upend the point of all that if they just got a wish fulfillment happy ending reincarnated together.
Makes me wonder about the comic panels I've seen of them saving Betty and getting a happy ending with the way this series ended it felt like more could be made. Perhaps another season where that happens? Plus with the whole multiverse there's so many possibilities!
@@jturner2577 We can still have a season where that happens considering we have the entire AT multiverse to work with! It is probs also a canon universe. So, wouldn't it be interesting to see that next season?
Reincarnation through chaos sounds too metal to let it go, plus that means Magic Man could also get some happy ending if all that Golb does is reduce and recycle.
Maybe Golb is the Nightmare Chaos version of Prizmo? Where Prizmo makes new versions of realities, that live alongside the ones that already exist, maybe Golb takes aspects/concepts from multiple different realities, or even whole realities themselves, and destroys and reforms them into pieces for a new universe that Golb is creating or trying to create?
Idk if I’m the only one, but I wonder if GOLBetty changing shape is a emotional/mental response to her closure with Simon. Think of it as realizing more of her godly potential or ability with everything settled. Like getting that closure truly frees her and spurs on some kind of godly transcendence that was only possible afterwards, as her mortal ties have been laid to rest knowing Simon is okay and will be fine without her. I feel like this may be the case cuz I don’t really see how it can be GOLB returning to normal by Betty’s soul leaving, as not even beings on Prismo’s level of power could get her back do to the crown’s wishes being very permanent. So I highly doubt she could leave GOLB so easily.
I have no problem with Betty getting to move on, but I'm sorry, there's no evidence of her being a comet in this video. And if anything, Finn's journey in together again mirrors Simon's, not Betty's. He half-assed his way through life because he had to live without his other half, who had ascended to a higher form of life. Just like Simon and Betty. You can say "well Jake reincarnated with Finn at the end so the comparison still adds up, but there's nothing really to compare there because Simon didn't reincarnate.
My headcanon is, Simon and Betty will reunite in death, where their souls reunite in the dead worlds. I don't think they're separated forever, just until Simon dies and he lives his life.
i mean Betty getting reincarnated might be what the fans wanna see, but on the other hand, you are kinda erasing the consequences of her final choice and the message that it was getting across about how sometimes things just won't go how we want them to go due to the events outside of our control so u gotta move on instead of dwelling on it or waiting for the universe to bend itself into a pretzel trying to fulfill your wants in their entirety. kinda subtracts a great deal from the final encounter between Betty and Simon.
the cycle of life and death, and even the multiverses too. seems to imply that when someone or something dies in setting, they are just going to next part where they would fit. in a way, like how Finn is basically Shermy in the future and Shoko in the past. I would venture to say that Finn might have even been Berry in the past that got to meet himself due to time mischef. the groups seem to be like a universal standard in the setting. Simon and Betty, Shoko and the tiger, Finn and Jake, Shermy and Beth. but also like the elementals too they seem to be recurring archetypes.
@@crimsonwolf8174 Then Finn probably didn't have a means to reach Prismo, or he wanted to respect Jake by not pulling him from the dead world. Either way, we'll never know
Im definitely on team Betty reincarnation. And if the bus doesnt say comet? That doesnt disprove it at all! She doesnt HAVE to become a comet to reincarnate! Life tells us in the series that any soul can reincarnate, so anyoen acting liek the comet is a requirement is just ?? Why. It'd be really cool if she did become a comet, but theres also the chance she just went to the dead world and we dont see her or simon in the finn and jake death episode because they had already reincarnated before then, as Simon would likely be on track to die before Finn. (Or it just wasnt important to the episode to show them ofc- Or who knows if Bettys fate was really decided at that point)
It's really interesting to think that Catalyst comets might be split off pieces of Golb. Gob Grob Glob Grod might have been one of those, would explain the similar looks and why they're so powerful.
I think the leaving bus was a representation that it is the last time Simon and Betty will see each other as they both part ways. Simon spent the series trying to meet GolBetty again, but the meeting at the bus stop was basically his closure and sign to move on. Even Simon chose not to join the bus ride, he's letting go of Betty.
Probably way off base here but what if Betty and Simon reincarnated as Shermie and Beth? Idk if they have been confirmed by the creators to be Finn and Jake's reincarnations or not but the dynamic betweeen Shermie and Beth and the fact that they both start with S&B made me wonder. LOL probably a stretch but yeah.
The people in the "comet" section sure do have a very unlogical take on this, she moved on and is exploring new universes!!! Why would Betty do that we have so much evidence to do otherwise
I spent way too long trying to figure out which Kingdom Hearts song you were using in the background. I guess when you're a 20 year long franchise, you have a lot of songs to pick from.
Losing my late fiance in 2018 really messed me up. We used to love watching Adventure Time and we had all the DVDs. I have bad PTSD from witnessing him pass. I STILL miss him everyday and had to go to therapy in order to cope. It truly helped but a part of me really hopes I get to see him again someday. It only sucks because my current boyfriend reminds me so much of my fiance and everything. His personality and interests. They would've both been really good friends. Best friends even. I'd have such a hard time picking in the afterlife of who I want to be with. My late fiance was bisexual. I had a dream once of seeing my fiance and he was so upset that I moved on but then I had another dream with him months later being more accepting. I know he would've not had me pick if they both were in the same space and time. It would suck having to choose between both men. My current bf and I already knew eachother for so many years but we never met. Just the fact that we talked from time to my time while my fiance was still alive. Although my late fiance and I were in an open relationship, we never pursued anyone else. I love both of them so dearly and am so grateful they both exist in my life. I would never be the lucky person I am today if it wasn't for my late fiance. He got me out of an abusive relationship. He really showed me love and acceptance and my current bf is the same way. He went through the same thing of losing his girlfriend very young. I've been through so much shit that I have C-PTSD but I really truly am grateful for the person I am today.
A thought occurs. What if Golb is responsible for the incarnation comets, and Golbetty is off to send another comet out? This is assuming the bus still means Comet, which isn't a given but I wanted to throw this out there
I think it's golbetty coming in the form of a comet. Not just Betty. It would also go along with the golb we see in the lichs eyes, cause it kinda looks like a comet form of golb
@@samuelhadjaissa5201 bruh. I genuinely do not care what the bus says or doesn't say. What I said was "being the next catalyst comet would be MY ONLY WISH FOR HER!"
Also hate to burst the bubble, but the comet thing isnt confirmed, it's veeeeeery loosely "guessed" based on the enchiridion's cipher (which is not yet fully figured out even years later)
Sounds like Finn and Betty's journey was is heartwarming reuniteful but a little sad because they worked hard to reunite with the ones they love and at the end Finn manages to reunite with Jake add Simon manages to reunite and save Betty and Betty got reincarnated as a butterfly I didn't think it was possible but I guess some heroes just don't have a happy ending but they still get to reunite with them in a way
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Simon asks "where are you going" and it's glowing like when Simon travels between universes. Golbetty isn't gone, but she is most definitely going somewhere.
That's what I'm thinking. Idk why others are saying she turned into golb. From what we've seen, the crowns wishes are permanent.
Betty's an explorer, and she's finally left on her own adventure. She's out exploring other dimensions beyond Adventure Time's multiverse.
@@gryphmanimagine if she sees a universe where simon is married with another woman
@@theunknown479 HELP😂
@@theunknown479 bros gonna commit mass murder💀
I still can't believe this spinoff is as good as it is. It really did elevate not just the characters but also the lore of the franchise to a new level.
fionna and cake really represented how we all grew with adventure time- and... how it grew with us
I think it just represents Betty finally moving on, now that Simon understands the nature of their relationship - and sees that his life has worth without Betty.
She knows now, that Simon will be safe without her. Thus, she can move on - No longer tethered to her former mortal existence.
But what happens to the eternal being that is Golb? did she just separate from Golb and her own soul reincarnated into a Comet? or did Golb reincarnate along with her, basically dying?
@@thecrispyacorn I doubt a being as powerful as Golb is capable of death. It was probably like the equivalent of someone walking out of a room.
It's also implied that Golb perceives/interacts with time somewhat nonlinearly, since Golbetty was able to send Simon's mind 1000 years into the future from her void.
While Betty briefly interacted with Simon in a more linear, mortal perspective at the end of the encounter, I agree with your take that doing so was basically her detaching herself from the last thing tethering her to a mortal perspective.
Likely from Golbetty's nonlinear perspective, that whole encounter with Simon probably occurred directly after she entered her void at the end of AV's finale. Indeed, I'd argue the reason why she immediately left in the finale was specifically so she could go say bye to Simon before finally ascending.
I feel like Betty saying "You were a wonderful experience" might be showing that she's been fused with Golb for so long, she only sees Simon as an "experience".
I mean she is an immortal being that precedes time not like our own seeing how golb is neither here nor there but is everywhere and nowhere all at once so even though it's only been about like 12 years for Simon missing Betty and feeling like his life is worthless and meaningless without her but for Betty it's probably been so long that she can only remember him as being an experience that she once had in a long distance past the she has to remember every so often since she's stuck in a time void where she's able to ponder and think about things that she's done in her past life for basically who knows how long
i heard someone compare it to her becoming an immortal god, simon will be an ever-decreasingly distant past, a small part of the life she will have being golb, while simon saw her as everything, since his life would be so much shorter that the time they spent together may have been a significant part of his life, and she probably wont ever fully leave his mind until he dies (aswell as ice kings obsession with princesses because of simons love for her, and being alive and influenced by that for a 1000 years)
Good theory
I think she was just being poetic dawg
I don’t think that’s what it means at all. She was essentially saying she enjoyed their time together
I like how Simon' arc is realizing that his life does have value just like everyone else, so he shouldn’t wear the crown and throw away the many sacrifices Betty made for his life, but the second he thinks she’s gonna eat him he’s like "Oh sweet I don’t have to carry through on that!"
it's more about trust and giving himself to her, even if that does result in death, it's what comes next and he trusts her in this moment to guide him there.
Betty wished to keep Simon safe, first she saved him from Golb, and then again from himself. I think that now that Simon is truly safe, she’s able to separate from Golb.
Simon finally got the closure he got. He understood that he wasn’t fair to Betty and Simon never knew how she felt. 💖💖💖
He does care for her and that is forever
@@mayracordero382 always and Betty feels the same.
I see this often. How was he not fair to Betty? Wasn’t he insane and couldn’t control what was happening? Someone Please explain. I want to understand
@@TheSugarrush93 Back when they were both sane,Simon never volunteered to support Betty on her adventures & their relationship is always about Simon's exploration,pushing Betty's goals aside & causing Simon to interact with the crown.If he had just chose to support her interests too,maybe none of this suffering would've happened.
@@TheSugarrush93you didn't watch the last episode?
I think at this point Golbetty’s been reborn as something else. There last communication when she got on the bus implies she’s moving on to something, whatever that is Simon can’t understand or follow. Maybe it’s death but just as likely a new life where she can live as herself without obsessing over him. A very adult, and bittersweet ending.
i think it just implies they're moving apart at this point. their destinations are different, so this is where they say goodbye. the bus just helped communicate this to Simon, it doesn't mean Betty is moving on to somewhere new
It's implied that Golb perceives/interacts with time somewhat nonlinearly, since Golbetty was able to send Simon's mind 1000 years into the future from her void. As a result, I feel like her "going" anywhere is mostly metaphorical, as she's already capable of being anywhere at any time. Her choosing to "reincarnate" would be more like her choosing to forget what she is and play make-believe for a little while.
While Betty briefly interacted with Simon in a more linear, mortal perspective when saying a final goodbye, I believe this was basically her detaching herself from the last thing tethering her to that mortal perspective. Hence why she turns into Golbetty while in the bus.
Likely from Golbetty's nonlinear perspective, that whole encounter with Simon probably occurred directly after she entered her void at the end of AV's finale. Indeed, I'd argue the reason why she immediately left in the finale was specifically so she could go say bye to Simon before finally ascending.
I actually really like this theory, this seems the most plausible to me
I am seriously hoping for a season 2 for fionna and cake
They said it’s “in discussion” but the person who said the first season could happen doesn’t work at max anymore. I’m really hoping they can focus on what happens to the universes f+c visited after they left, especially the vampire and winter king worlds. Idk
@@fancytreeshrewthe winter king world would be just a ocean
Also I think everyone does
But... why. it's perfect the way it is.
@@aelurus some people just want more lore bud
I do too but what could happen since it feels like a open and shut story
Though she may have become a comet, it is also possible that she is still a part of Golb, but since Simon is safe, Golb became the dominant personality again.
What we have to remember is the wording of Betty's wish, it wasn't to "keep simon safe" but for the power to do so which means that even if simon is safe now the crowns wish shouldn't be undone because her wish was for the power, not the cause.
I honestly don't think Golbetty is going back to being Golb since remember when Simon says "where are you going?" And those strange symbols appear so that's probably indicating where she's going and Golbetty is making the same energy signal that Simon uses to make a portal so it looks like Golbetty is heading off somewhere.
Where hopefully we get at least a hint of in a potential Season 2.
I hear a lot of people saying that they wish Betty became human again so Simon and Betty could be together. I think that one of the main points of the show is Simon, realizing how sweet yet unhealthy their relationship was, and let him go that he won’t see her again. But also excepting the fact that he is OK without her. There’s a difference between giving to receive and giving till there’s nothing left. The show is so good and honestly I think it would be so amazing for a season two. So people that work at max. make it happen.
Like yes there relationship was unhealthy however to act like there wasn't any good in it is ridiculous, Also yes the story is about Simon learning his relationship was unhealthy that doesn't mean he still doesn't love Betty, rather that he is now focused on loving himself.
when it aired i was really mad at season 9 of the office for ruining Erin and Andy's relationship. i really shipped them so it was such a kick that felt unfair and like it ruined the show for me. in retrospect i really respect it. it taught me that's how life goes sometimes. we get the cards we're dealt, whether we deal them ourselves or they're dealt to us, and media striving to sate fan's wants and expectations really does a disservice to people who still need to learn that lesson.
major major respect to this show for not giving Simon and Betty the cookie cutter ending. thought it was an amazing choice for the finale, and very glad they didn't reneg on it in Fionna & Cake, undoing the poignancy of the lesson the finale taught.
@@samuelhadjaissa5201I think you still missed the point, the show doesn’t demonize there relationship it solely proves again (cause the og shoe also explored this) that it was an unfair relationship where one person sacrificed while another solely benefited. Love can be completed and end bittersweet and it’s okay. That’s life and media should show that more often.
@@m0rgg459 Like yeah I know that the show wasn't demonizing their relationship. Heck do see them parting ways as good thing. However that doesn't mean they don't love each other anymore. Rather that they are now dedicating their lives to loving themselves, they no longer put each other on a pedestal rather that they see themselves as two flawed people who need to work on themselves now.
Truer words have never been uttered. @@DoroNijimaru
I feel bad for Simon and Betty's situation. Constantly endlessly saving eachother for one loose end to come up in the corners but too far to reach
Okay, I have a wild theory.
What if Beth and Shermy isn't Finn and Jake, but Betty and Simon.
No, not because Beth and Betty sounds alike, but because GolbBetty send Simon in the mind of Shermy. She could have choose whatever vessel, even Beth herself, but choose that lil guy. I think it's a future reincarnation of Simon.
I'm not sure if the same can be said about Beth and Betty for sure, but I like to think their soul are "come in one package", and can reincarnate together to be enternaly together, like in the Distand lands episode, where we see Life mentioning it, and actually shaping and sending two souls to reincarnate together
Wasn’t heavily implied that is simply finn n jake?
@@johnanderson3559 I never saw it that way, I feel like we would've at least seen a cameo of Shermy and Beth in together again if that were the case.
Thats an amazing idea! And thats maybe why Simon was in Shermy, Golbetty shot him into a future incarnation of himself.
@@ramonorozcojr.9008 Yeah, exactly! Thanks :3
Wouldn’t it be hilarious if Shermy and Beth were actually Simon and Betty’s reincarnations rather than Finn & Jake’s? While very unlikely, it could explain Simon’s soul being placed in Shermy specifically and Beth’s insights being pretty spot on for Simon & Betty’s relationship (plus their initials match, lol.)
that is... actually could be possible never thought of it
Beth and betty sound so similar..
Y’know when Finn was talking to the purple planet thingy he says he started off as a butterfly, which was blue, and we then see a blue butterfly on Simon’s face, could be a close relation
“Everything stays, right where you left it
Everything stays, but it still changes
Ever so slightly, daily and nightly
In little ways, everything stays”
Theory: Shermy and Beth arent reincarnations of Finn and Jake, but Simon and Betty.
Shermy and Simon sharing a body during the Casper and Nova episode could be an instance of a single soul, at different incarnations sharing a body.
they have similar names too thats so cool
I definitely at least agree that Shermy and Beth aren't reincarnations of Finn and Jake. None of the confirmed reincarnations of a soul we've seen are remotely similar except maybe the elementals.
That's fair but I wonder what the metaphysical logistics of simon and shermy both being able to chill in shermy's mind are...assuming their soul is one in the same. But I could be overthinking it
You might be onto something. In fact, in AT finale I remember we see Shermy wearing Simon's glasses in BMO's home, and they both look very curious to know the lore behind Finn's arm (just like both Simon and Betty are curious to uncover Ooo's lore)
the idea of betty just unfusing with golb is rather a waste of the entire story she went throught, but i like the idea and it seems interesting to note.
I think now that her wish is granted "Simon is Safe" she was expelled from Gulb and the entity moved on and she was reborn.
IMO, it looked like she took on a human form the last time we see her. If we ever get a second season, I think we could see her interacting with with the scheming version of Finn’s dad, wherever they are. From Scarab’s files, he still exists somewhere, or at least a version of him.
I said this in the Fiona n Cake explain video but I am very much attached to the thing Scarab said in the end "Becoming canon means you are gonna get the bad stuff too." which hints to "Canon Events" in the Adventurous Multiverse.
There are two / three canon events that I think back to:
The Hero Comet, the Lich Comet, and the Mushroom War.
In order to ensure her own reincarnation isn't like altered due to the governing order, I like to think she is going to become a comet that hits Fiona's World.
Even though they chose to not make Simon become Ice King again (which would turn it magical), these Earths of the Adventurous Multiverse are destined to be hit by these Comets.
We have Blue = Finn, Green = Lich = Yellow = Jake(?), and Purple which is suppose to be a balanced combination of the red and blue.
What if Betty is attempting to either create a new comet or override a comet in Fionnaworld.
Fiona is already the blue, Cake is already the Yellow, we don't know what the purple one was suppose to be but the Green is always the Lich, a being that is obsessed with Golb. What if Betty attempts to hi-jack the Green Comet of Fiona World, to become that World's Lich? Or become a new comet that brings magic to Fionna's world, without changing it, so it can be ready for the event of their Green Comet.
The Lich is a canon event, the greatest foe to the Blue Comet Hero.
Weirdly enough, Fionna World has TWO Blue Souled Heroes. TWO. (Fin's son doesn't count since in that timeline, we see that the Blue comet actually misses the planet when Simon stops the nuke. and I am assuming a comet did occur in BabyWorld)
I like the theories that Simon could actually move into Fionnaworld, Simon wasn't in the afterlife, and we have no proof he was reincarnated in that future. As we saw from the credits, the Fiona Fan girl was drawing characters while listening to Simon as he talks about gaming. What if it was the Fan girl who made that Choose Your Own adventure? Simon only assumed it was himself who wrote it cause he was always CHOOSING HIMSELF.
If that in mind, there is no proof that shows Simon stays in OOO, all he needs to do, is use that little phone; contact Fionna and Prismo and bam, Simon is back in a world he recognizes, may be even moves in with Simone Ice cream woman lol. And Simon is reunited with Betty when she is incarnated as the magical woman she was when she came to OOO, to give magic to a world that will need it against their destined Lich. This world's agent of Golb.
Good theory except that last part imo.
Part of the show is accepting the world you have so simon just getting up and leaving Ooo doesn't really fit with that.
The thought that Betty may have reincarnated is very comforting. I had feared she was permanently stuck as a part of Golb.
Golb is basically Angra Mainyu from Zoroastrianism. They even reference the yashts, where the hero retrieves his brother from Mainyu's bowels much like Jake does to Finn and Simon.
OOOF... THE MUSIC, FINNS SPEECH AND CLIPS ALL TOGETHER IN THE BEGINNING GAVE ME SUCH CHILLS😰😭💔🎶
The bus sign is translated to “Nocheosfera” which means nightosphere in the spanish dub
You should make a video about how you would write an Owl House-Amphibia-Gravity Falls crossover sequel series.
I'm doing that right now!
I want to believe that Simon and Betty will be together again... Just getting there the long way around. And this time as equals instead of duo co-dependence.
The thought that one day Simon and Betty reincarnated could one day fall in love all over again, but do it right that time, is such a sweet wholesome fact, and is a theory that I personally am a huge fan of! :>
I can’t believe Betty's actually gone. I get the lesson and everything. It's just, why does it have to be this way? I wish Betty had taken the way out with Finn and Simon in the finale. They could’ve been happy together. Things would've been ok. 😞
they'd be consumed by Golb, they wouldn't go on to the afterlife together or at all, they'd cease to exist
oh the way out lol i thought u meant like bite it, nvm
If it makes you feel better. The bus doesn't say Comet. The person who said that lied, there is no Cypher in the Enchiridion
@@DoroNijimaru Nah, unfusing from GOLB doesn't mean she will still be in his Belly.
@@samuelhadjaissa5201 i misinterpreted op thinking they were saying 'why didn't Simon and Betty just let Golb digest them, they'd be together'.
like, taken that way out.
i realized right after i commented and read it again 😅
(clearly they meant why didn't she take the hole out that Simon and Finn took when she instead stayed behind with the crown)
I think it’s more like a doctor Manhattan situation where she sees the bigger picture in life and isn’t losing touch with her humanity but in humanity in general but is bound to protecting ice king due to the wish
I feel like it represents her moving on as golbetty, uniting with golb becoming one together instead of dominanting each other
i still believe that simon physically can't die as long as betty still chooses to "keep simon safe"
I prefer to interpret as Betty finally doing what she needed to do. She is going to chase after her own interests shes going to explore something unknown so Simon and finally experience the trip of self-discovery she wanted to take the whole time.
And I think seeing that would be a really interesting way to continue their story
Using Xion's theme for the background music was perfect
I do think she reincarnated and Golb went back to his original form, but I don’t think that Betty is a comet just that she reincarnated.
Tears in my eyes this whole video. I’m so glad that a show like this exists
For me, the bus scene is pretty key to interpreting what happens to Golbetty. I don't see it as Betty defusing and leaving Golb. But more her letting go of the past and moving on to new experiences. Seeing Golbetty on the bus departing to new places unknown. I don't think she split off and I don't think she and Simon will ever see eachother again. I think she's going off to live for herself now to some unknown place.
The comet thing feels like a stretch. Five characters on the bus does not suggest 'comet' that's a huge leap IMO. I also see no reason to think that Betty's soul has departed Golb. Because it's Golbetty we see on that bus at the end. It's Golbetty moving on to new experiences, not just Betty. And if it was as simple and mortal as just reincarnation, there wouldn't be the strange alien lettering to give an unknowable eldritch feel. That's just part of the life cycle in Adventure Time. And even if Betty 'did' reincarnate separately I don't see why that would involve her becoming a comet.
The point about people not believing in this comet theory 'not wanting to let go of Betty' rings false to me. Seeing Golbetty go off to new experiences and letting her go, is letting her go. Holding onto this reincarnation/comet theory in hopes that Simon and Betty will meet again in another life, THAT is not letting go of Betty. Just because Betty isn't human anymore doesn't mean that her new experiences as Golbetty she's hypothetically moving on to would be less fulfilling or meaningful to her either. There's no indication that s he's suffering or regrets it or would even want to go back.
Bringing in Together Again feels like a baffling leap to me. Just because a different story with two different characters ended with reincarnation together doesn't mean that would play out with this different story with two different characters, who have this heartfelt parting of the ways and coming to terms with their past and that there are no do overs. It would completely upend the point of all that if they just got a wish fulfillment happy ending reincarnated together.
Makes me wonder about the comic panels I've seen of them saving Betty and getting a happy ending with the way this series ended it felt like more could be made. Perhaps another season where that happens? Plus with the whole multiverse there's so many possibilities!
The comics are an alternate reality.
@@jturner2577 We can still have a season where that happens considering we have the entire AT multiverse to work with! It is probs also a canon universe. So, wouldn't it be interesting to see that next season?
@@zombiebunny97True it would be interesting to see such a reality in the multiverse.
I don’t think the butterfly is related to Betty, because the same butterfly appeared in the second episode on Cake’s face when she just came to OOO
its been confirmed by one of the creators in a tweet that simon outlived finn
Wow, really? Didn't expect that.
Reincarnation through chaos sounds too metal to let it go, plus that means Magic Man could also get some happy ending if all that Golb does is reduce and recycle.
reincarnation is far better than being stuck as golb.
Maybe Golb is the Nightmare Chaos version of Prizmo? Where Prizmo makes new versions of realities, that live alongside the ones that already exist, maybe Golb takes aspects/concepts from multiple different realities, or even whole realities themselves, and destroys and reforms them into pieces for a new universe that Golb is creating or trying to create?
Idk if I’m the only one, but I wonder if GOLBetty changing shape is a emotional/mental response to her closure with Simon. Think of it as realizing more of her godly potential or ability with everything settled. Like getting that closure truly frees her and spurs on some kind of godly transcendence that was only possible afterwards, as her mortal ties have been laid to rest knowing Simon is okay and will be fine without her. I feel like this may be the case cuz I don’t really see how it can be GOLB returning to normal by Betty’s soul leaving, as not even beings on Prismo’s level of power could get her back do to the crown’s wishes being very permanent. So I highly doubt she could leave GOLB so easily.
Love the sonic adventure theme in the background 🥺
I have no problem with Betty getting to move on, but I'm sorry, there's no evidence of her being a comet in this video.
And if anything, Finn's journey in together again mirrors Simon's, not Betty's. He half-assed his way through life because he had to live without his other half, who had ascended to a higher form of life. Just like Simon and Betty. You can say "well Jake reincarnated with Finn at the end so the comparison still adds up, but there's nothing really to compare there because Simon didn't reincarnate.
Cant wait for more of this!🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
My headcanon is, Simon and Betty will reunite in death, where their souls reunite in the dead worlds. I don't think they're separated forever, just until Simon dies and he lives his life.
I love that Headcanon.
The show, along with the bus, it seems more like something special is happening with GOLBetty, that form of her and golb
my man will never not use Sonic music in his videos
i respect it
God their love story is so bittersweet
That same butterfly lands on cake in ep 3 tho so I dont think it’s Betty herself
The craziest part of this video to me is that I've been listening to the Xion song on loop for 3 weeks.
i mean Betty getting reincarnated might be what the fans wanna see, but on the other hand, you are kinda erasing the consequences of her final choice and the message that it was getting across about how sometimes things just won't go how we want them to go due to the events outside of our control so u gotta move on instead of dwelling on it or waiting for the universe to bend itself into a pretzel trying to fulfill your wants in their entirety. kinda subtracts a great deal from the final encounter between Betty and Simon.
the cycle of life and death, and even the multiverses too. seems to imply that when someone or something dies in setting, they are just going to next part where they would fit. in a way, like how Finn is basically Shermy in the future and Shoko in the past. I would venture to say that Finn might have even been Berry in the past that got to meet himself due to time mischef. the groups seem to be like a universal standard in the setting. Simon and Betty, Shoko and the tiger, Finn and Jake, Shermy and Beth. but also like the elementals too they seem to be recurring archetypes.
I also have real life dead girlfriend trauma. Hope youre doing alright man
I'm sorry to hear about your loss, thank you for the video
I just wanted to say that I’m sorry to hear about your dead girlfriend trauma and that I wish you healing and peace ❤
Anyone else wonder how the other litches responded to seeing how golb delt with a lich after he completed his mission
I see you with that Xion theme song in the background.
Another possible theory that occurs to me... What if Simon is the re-incarnation of Gunter? (along with the other previous wearers of the crown....)
@Kevin I’m sorry you had a significant other that passed away and trust me when I say that is the worst feeling and pain to possibly feel.
i don t understand how Jake is dead he is best friend of prismo why prismo didnt revive him or someone else go to Prismo and wish for it
Probably because reviving dead people would be out of his power or because that would probably break some kind of cosmic rule.
@@barstoolblethins8428no its possible as long as domene besides prismo makes the wish
@@crimsonwolf8174 Then Finn probably didn't have a means to reach Prismo, or he wanted to respect Jake by not pulling him from the dead world. Either way, we'll never know
@@barstoolblethins8428 Finn spend his 1 and only Prismo wish creating Farmworld
What if simon killed himself multiple times and golb-betty was saving him everytime because betty's wish was to keep simon safe.
Im definitely on team Betty reincarnation. And if the bus doesnt say comet? That doesnt disprove it at all! She doesnt HAVE to become a comet to reincarnate! Life tells us in the series that any soul can reincarnate, so anyoen acting liek the comet is a requirement is just ?? Why.
It'd be really cool if she did become a comet, but theres also the chance she just went to the dead world and we dont see her or simon in the finn and jake death episode because they had already reincarnated before then, as Simon would likely be on track to die before Finn. (Or it just wasnt important to the episode to show them ofc- Or who knows if Bettys fate was really decided at that point)
Or maybe they were reunited there who knows?
6:00 gave myself hiccups laughing too suddenly here
It's really interesting to think that Catalyst comets might be split off pieces of Golb. Gob Grob Glob Grod might have been one of those, would explain the similar looks and why they're so powerful.
I think the leaving bus was a representation that it is the last time Simon and Betty will see each other as they both part ways. Simon spent the series trying to meet GolBetty again, but the meeting at the bus stop was basically his closure and sign to move on. Even Simon chose not to join the bus ride, he's letting go of Betty.
I prefer the idea that Golbetty evolved into something new, yet remains a singular entity.
I ❤ Adventure Time! It’s one of my Favourite Cartoons of All Time & Fiona & Cake is a welcomed addition/ continuation. Can’t wait for more.
Probably way off base here but what if Betty and Simon reincarnated as Shermie and Beth?
Idk if they have been confirmed by the creators to be Finn and Jake's reincarnations or not but the dynamic betweeen Shermie and Beth and the fact that they both start with S&B made me wonder. LOL probably a stretch but yeah.
New sub :)
Amazing content and the first time ive seen it
The people in the "comet" section sure do have a very unlogical take on this, she moved on and is exploring new universes!!! Why would Betty do that we have so much evidence to do otherwise
1:45 Oh shut up! 🥺🤧💜
I spent way too long trying to figure out which Kingdom Hearts song you were using in the background. I guess when you're a 20 year long franchise, you have a lot of songs to pick from.
I dunno if Betty unfused from Golb, I think she might have stayed fused with golb but made the two of them into 1 comet
Losing my late fiance in 2018 really messed me up. We used to love watching Adventure Time and we had all the DVDs. I have bad PTSD from witnessing him pass. I STILL miss him everyday and had to go to therapy in order to cope. It truly helped but a part of me really hopes I get to see him again someday. It only sucks because my current boyfriend reminds me so much of my fiance and everything. His personality and interests. They would've both been really good friends. Best friends even. I'd have such a hard time picking in the afterlife of who I want to be with. My late fiance was bisexual. I had a dream once of seeing my fiance and he was so upset that I moved on but then I had another dream with him months later being more accepting. I know he would've not had me pick if they both were in the same space and time. It would suck having to choose between both men. My current bf and I already knew eachother for so many years but we never met. Just the fact that we talked from time to my time while my fiance was still alive. Although my late fiance and I were in an open relationship, we never pursued anyone else. I love both of them so dearly and am so grateful they both exist in my life. I would never be the lucky person I am today if it wasn't for my late fiance. He got me out of an abusive relationship. He really showed me love and acceptance and my current bf is the same way. He went through the same thing of losing his girlfriend very young. I've been through so much shit that I have C-PTSD but I really truly am grateful for the person I am today.
I hope Adventure Time Fionna and Cake season 2 will explain more about what happened to her🤔? And if you have other theories tell tell them down below
Praying for a movie with golb and duncan trussel chillin 😊
don't know if this was already mentioned, but Golbetty's eyes are blue and has a form of a butterfly.
This reminds me in Rick and Morty Season 1 when Summer was stuck in the car and rick gave a direct order of "KEEP SUMMER SAFE"😂😂😂
It feels like you binge all of adventure Time just to make this video
What if the sign on the bus actually meant "crisp" like an apple crisp.
A thought occurs. What if Golb is responsible for the incarnation comets, and Golbetty is off to send another comet out? This is assuming the bus still means Comet, which isn't a given but I wanted to throw this out there
I think it's golbetty coming in the form of a comet. Not just Betty. It would also go along with the golb we see in the lichs eyes, cause it kinda looks like a comet form of golb
Omg I didn’t know there was a “post credits” scene
The catalyst comet that sounds like part of Finn's past life! maybe Finn and Betty's live with someone connected!
Betty being the next catalyst comet would be my only wish for her. She deserves it.
The bus doesn't say Comet though.
@@samuelhadjaissa5201fr
@@samuelhadjaissa5201 bruh. I genuinely do not care what the bus says or doesn't say. What I said was "being the next catalyst comet would be MY ONLY WISH FOR HER!"
lmao you can understand them adventure time switches between the enchiridion runes and actual IRL runes
hey sitting here freaking out from the words said at 4:57 WHAT IS THAT FROM
"Dead girlfriend trauma"
*Xion theme in the background"
Also hate to burst the bubble, but the comet thing isnt confirmed, it's veeeeeery loosely "guessed" based on the enchiridion's cipher (which is not yet fully figured out even years later)
Can we get a season 2?
I just thought that Betty LIKES being the goddess of chaos lol
Considering she was a pretty chaotic person herself it's plausible.
How is she gonna keep him safe now as the comet tho?
The comet is probably named Grof.
So where is everyone getting the idea that the bus reads "comet?" The text has never actually been deciphered.
Sounds like Finn and Betty's journey was is heartwarming reuniteful but a little sad because they worked hard to reunite with the ones they love and at the end Finn manages to reunite with Jake add Simon manages to reunite and save Betty and Betty got reincarnated as a butterfly I didn't think it was possible but I guess some heroes just don't have a happy ending but they still get to reunite with them in a way