Killing coal in a Beech 1900

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  • Опубликовано: 1 фев 2025

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  • @ScrewFlanders
    @ScrewFlanders Год назад +27

    The bumpiest, roughest flights in my life have been in Beechcraft 1900's flying between Flagstaff and Albuquerque. I've never landed in Kayenta, but I did land (as a passenger) one time during a snowstorm in Farmington at Four Corners Regional. A little Navajo grandmother in the seat in front of me had her rosary out and was praying for the last 20 minutes of that flight. She just might be the reason we all got to walk away from that landing.

    • @flyinbry
      @flyinbry Год назад +1

      Bumpiest area agreed

  • @grayvidz238
    @grayvidz238 Год назад +14

    As a charter pilot and CFI, I really enjoy your videos. They are much more engaging and the narration is exceptional. Keep up the great work - you deserve to get big doing this!

  • @LowandFast357
    @LowandFast357 Год назад +10

    Dude..... Best crash analysis videos anywhere. Way better than Air Disasters, Lol. As a pro pilot and aircraft broker, I can easily discern that you operate with excellence. It manifests in these productions. You articulate incredibly well and have a great vocabulary! Same with the phrasing. OK man, ego boost over. Keep rocking!

  • @troyhome2
    @troyhome2 Год назад +1

    This channel has filled a niche I didn't realized existed. I think most of us figure out the cause/blame 10 seconds into the coverage of air disasters on shows that can span an hour. We tolerate the remainder of the show, anxiously (if we can't FF) just to confirm our theory. I'm not knocking them and I will continue to indulge. But this channel delivers gripping narratives that unfold like classic detective tales. The narratives suck you in like a good book and the need for "got the right answer" confirmation isn't top of mind. How cool would it be if he wrote FAR/AIMS/SOPs, etc. And he was a Sim instructor. I'm trying to picture his voice over the heavy accents so common from Flight Safety. Great Job.

  • @alvarvillalongamarch3894
    @alvarvillalongamarch3894 Год назад

    I just love your well documented channel!As a long time airline captaim,now in the long haul boring business,your documentaries are sobering and humbling.No matter your experience,we are always prone to these fixation mistakes.Proceeding to your alternate means angry passengers,breaking your day schedule,and even ending in a hotel with not even the comfort of a toothbrush.Glad they all made their way out alive.Thanks for your hard work!

  • @neekonsaadat2532
    @neekonsaadat2532 Год назад +1

    You are an exceptional educator and narrator. Thank you for this.

  • @sokkimmartin788
    @sokkimmartin788 Год назад +4

    Nice video and love all these interesting titles you put on your videos

  • @veno8mm
    @veno8mm Год назад

    Kudos to whomever put together your dialog. Possibly OP maybe a team of writers and editors. Who knows. Super great message.

    • @flyingformoney777
      @flyingformoney777  Год назад

      Just me, but thanks!

    • @veno8mm
      @veno8mm Год назад

      @@flyingformoney777 you sir are one hellva wordsmith. Earned my sub.

  • @devilsdoorbell515
    @devilsdoorbell515 Месяц назад

    "Most of the time we get away with it..." I would argue that this is the largest driving force behind the 85% pilot error statistic, ultimately. Very good presentation!

  • @randyminnick5031
    @randyminnick5031 Год назад

    A very good professional report. Thank you.

  • @realediciocco1598
    @realediciocco1598 Год назад +2

    Your story telling is outstanding. Subscribed.

  • @collinagne2509
    @collinagne2509 Год назад +1

    These are awesome!! Love air crash investigations and your videos really act as a good training supplement for my commercial pilot certificate I am working on currently.

  • @henryvinson1
    @henryvinson1 Год назад +10

    excellent job. you are a fantastic content creator.

  • @alk672
    @alk672 Год назад +6

    "Most of the time you get away with it" is precisely the problem. Studies show times and times again that people break the rules way more when they don't believe they'll be caught. The fear of death is somehow less of a stopping force compared to an inevitability of being caught by the FAA. Unfortunately, pilots are mostly on their own when it comes to compliance, and it's difficult for the human mind to control itself. I used to think something like this could never happen to me, but now I'm not nearly as sure anymore. Given the same pressures - I just don't know.

    • @flyingformoney777
      @flyingformoney777  Год назад +5

      One thing that I’ve learned over time is that sometimes it is better to not be a nice guy. Most captains, by the end of their career, are completely unapologetic about saying “no.” Some turn into jerks (which is unnecessary). The hard “no” is tough to master…

    • @lbowsk
      @lbowsk Год назад

      "Normalization of Deviance". See: NASA and the Space Shuttle Columbia.

  • @SaintsBro9
    @SaintsBro9 Год назад

    Certainly a first to finish your video and be glad it didnt end in loss of life. Keep it up, I’ll keep watching👍🏻

  • @RadioFree-Saigon
    @RadioFree-Saigon Год назад +16

    Pithy wisdom from a real deal pro pilot makes these video vignettes a cautionary warning for those who tread aloft.

  • @bpitotbrett5839
    @bpitotbrett5839 Год назад +2

    I flew 1900Ds and Cs 20 years ago (part 121) None of them had an Autopilot or GPS. Good briefing on this accident.

  • @sgtsucc5348
    @sgtsucc5348 Год назад

    I don't dabble in fixed wing, more of an eggbeater guy, but your videos are so intriguing, they're confronting and marveling. The earie visual and lightly graphic folk tales paired with your monotone yet captivating voice have really taught me not to fuck with human factors. Really reflect on my previous actions and stop being such a cowboy.

  • @GWhizard
    @GWhizard Год назад

    Dayam. I'm a wordsmith, author, communicator, pilot. My best sequences of words would not measure up to your poetic word-pictures of flight dynamics.

  • @triggerpointtechnology
    @triggerpointtechnology Год назад

    Shot an NDB approach to Sedona. Now decommissioned, probably because the NDB was so weak, you were shooting the outbound leg and procedure turn in the blind, the needle having died with no NDB aural tone at all, just static. It would quiver and come alive within 20 seconds of station passage and only then could you see if your flying was precise enough, and your wind correction estimates were good enough, to watch the needle swing to the nose, or some other position. At 1:00am in blinding snow, (no weather reports on this part 91 leg) I’ve never felt so - alone - as when waiting for the needle to come alive from its non-functioning 3:00-9:00 position with nothing but static in the headset. As time was running out, the needle quivered and slowly swung to the nose as the identifying aural tone became discernible with only 20 seconds to station passage. Longest one minute of my life, that inbound leg, staring at that dead needle. Never been so happy to see that needle slowly come alive and point directly at the nose, other than the 20 degree WCA. At station passage (the MAP) the landing lights just showed raging snow. loved that Chieftain’s ability to shrug off ice. Knowing I’m 2,000 feet below the ridges all around I poured on the power, climbed 4,000 feet in the racetrack up to MEA and diverted to Prescott to shoot the ILS to minimums. Grabbed a room at a local motel and slept hard. The next day I woke up and looked at 2 feet of snow deposited everywhere.
    Nasty leg but everything went as it should, except for that piece of junk NDB. The flight attendant was happy to go home too.

  • @HotrunVideo
    @HotrunVideo Год назад +1

    X-Plane 11 has a B1900 ;) Can't really compete with fs2020 for the beautiful visuals though! Another great video buddy, glad everyone made it out OK. Could have been way worse.

    • @flyingformoney777
      @flyingformoney777  Год назад +1

      Yep. I’m pretty set on doing these in MSFS. Like you said, visuals are just too immersive 👍🏻

    • @HotrunVideo
      @HotrunVideo Год назад

      @@flyingformoney777 I don't blame you bud it looks fantastic. Well done again!

  • @JamesWilliams-en3os
    @JamesWilliams-en3os Год назад

    “If you think it couldn’t happen to you, you haven’t spent much time in the aviation accident database. If you think that it COULD happen to you, you’re one step closer to ensuring that it won’t.” I believe you’re right. Every pilot I know who who watches channels like this, subscribes to and reads aviation safety publications, and is serious about recurrent training seems to revise his/her personal minimums increasingly in the direction of greater caution. There are bo old, bold pilots.

  • @reusin69
    @reusin69 Год назад

    I fly the B1900C and D in western Africa, and I absolutely adore this plane. The design grew on me and now I think she's the prettiest bird ever :-)

  • @bobwilson758
    @bobwilson758 Месяц назад

    In the U. P. Of Michigan I flew on a over loaded Raytheon / Beech 1900 from way north to
    Milwaukee , Wisconsin . Not so good on take - off , but worse on climb out . Winter weather -
    I was not comfortable at All ! About to poop -- no joke We sunk several times . I was tight …
    As we finally climbed - thanks to a pilot keeping the deck about 3 - 5 degrees max - that
    Aircraft powered us all out of a very old AFB with no turning whatsoever - gradually , the
    Flight crew turned us south using rudder only , I think . Way to many big men on board -
    They left the flight attendant up at the station - After a while , the aircraft seemed to fly
    Normally and we cruised south & burned a lot of fuel to do it . Scared the crap out of me , as
    I knew some of what was going on - After about 35 - 45 minutes we were maybe 10 thousand ft .
    Nearing destination airport . Damn -
    Another flight on the ole 1900 was a ice cake wing scrapper - Ice flying off the wings -
    Constantly …. Mid - West only game in town ! Good guys , just scared me … and I can fly a
    Light aircraft VFR C - 150 / 152 around Sanford , Florida . Jeez 😮 😐😖🫢 Thanks Buddy !

  • @thoughtfuloutrage5563
    @thoughtfuloutrage5563 Год назад +1

    Your summary and comments are more conversational and consequently more easily understood than Juan Brown and much more concise than Dan Gryder. This is my channel of choice for analyzing pilot behavior, which usually results in poor decision making regardless of other factors involved.

  • @MrSiciro
    @MrSiciro Год назад +2

    The world needs new 1900s

  • @cpl_ethan
    @cpl_ethan Год назад

    AOPA needs to collaborate with this guy. Great videos!!

  • @phattestphil
    @phattestphil Год назад

    It's important to note that the runway was not equipped with an ALS as depicted in the video. There were REILs, edge lights, and VASI only on RWY 2.

    • @flyingformoney777
      @flyingformoney777  Год назад

      The rabbit was from flagstaff and for illustration purposes only. Non precision runways have fewer lights, one reason why minimums are higher. It’s all kind of irrelevant anyways. Apparently none of the lights were working.

  • @kohersh
    @kohersh Год назад

    Thanks for your videos and assessments. Keep them coming please.

  • @kolsen6330
    @kolsen6330 Год назад +1

    After being weathered in at a remote Alaska mine site for 2 weeks, I heard the local flight was inbound in a King Air. Alaska Airlines wouldnt fly in due to conditions. Got airborne and realized that I might have made a mistake. Snowing so hard you lost sight of the wingtips at times. As we went over the top of a mountain and started descent into a native village strip, the copilot looked back at us and said "everybody watch for trees" Gotta love native pilots in Alaska.

  • @alvarvillalongamarch3894
    @alvarvillalongamarch3894 Год назад

    Danke!

    • @flyingformoney777
      @flyingformoney777  Год назад

      Sorry for the delayed response, I just saw this. Thank you so much!

  • @daleolson3506
    @daleolson3506 Год назад +7

    I think that’s a good looking plane

    • @flyingformoney777
      @flyingformoney777  Год назад +4

      Many think that the King Air is better looking than the 1900D. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I like both of them…

  • @flutebasket4294
    @flutebasket4294 Год назад +1

    Interesting to see case studies that don't involve 352 people dying in horrific hellfire on some mountain side in Peru

  • @Doornail23
    @Doornail23 Год назад +1

    I love these stories are told.. keep up the great work

  • @iammrvain
    @iammrvain Год назад

    Just applied to fly in 1900 in Alaska …. Your stories make me think…. ADM…. Tomorrow is always a possibility….. if you don’t screw up too bad today.

  • @TenantRepGuru
    @TenantRepGuru Год назад

    Great video. Please keep them coming

  • @braincraven
    @braincraven Год назад

    I do spend my time looking at accidents and knowing that the plane I bought had been in one. While you're narration style is a bit dark it's, right on point we all need to be cautious as pilots.

  • @raoulcruz4404
    @raoulcruz4404 Год назад

    Here is an example of an experienced crew making an error. We harp so much on total hours as being a measure of safety. But, it was those hours that made the pilot overconfident and force the landing. We never reach a number of flight hours where we are safe.

  • @maxx9384
    @maxx9384 Год назад +1

    30 years of flying the big jets and I can tell you that I always read every crash report with the mindset that this could have possibly happened to me. You must be humble as a pilot, otherwise you'll easily end up in a statistics.

  • @bobwilson758
    @bobwilson758 Месяц назад

    Those 1900 king air planes are really quite the hot rod for twin prop aircraft !
    Fast & fun to fly on / If the weather is good ! If not heavy , normal take off weight - the
    Performance is a hoot ! Really neat experience - I almost always enjoyed flying on those planes !
    They go where others fear to tread - Normal great acceleration ! Yee ha - 😅

  • @ladyhawk7408
    @ladyhawk7408 Год назад +3

    Coal is only a dying industry in the US.... China on the other hand is set to bring online 20 times as many coal power plants as the US decommissioned in 2019.

  • @thepurpleufo
    @thepurpleufo Год назад +1

    Excellent stuff...thank you.

  • @michaelvandyne6480
    @michaelvandyne6480 Год назад

    Top notch content.

  • @Flyboy_Santos
    @Flyboy_Santos Год назад

    Another great video

  • @flyinbry
    @flyinbry Год назад

    I remember this accident flying in the area at the time. Never knew whole story.

  • @benjaminbills9533
    @benjaminbills9533 Год назад +1

    I need to write down ALL of your quotes. Up there with Fate Is The Hunter.

  • @camsmeltzer9388
    @camsmeltzer9388 Год назад

    Never be afraid to push the throttle’s and fly away!

  • @lefthandedhardright8839
    @lefthandedhardright8839 Год назад +1

    Pilots should've used foreflight pro and an iPad.
    The crash would've been averted.

  • @Defines1776
    @Defines1776 Год назад

    Love your videos man.

  • @bobwilson758
    @bobwilson758 Год назад +1

    These are really good aircraft ! But they should not take 19 passengers - how about 12 maximum .

  • @jackspratt4343
    @jackspratt4343 Год назад

    ASOBO ?

    • @flyingformoney777
      @flyingformoney777  Год назад +1

      The maker of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020

    • @jackspratt4343
      @jackspratt4343 Год назад

      @@flyingformoney777 OK, I never knew that. Thanks for the info.

  • @DJ99777
    @DJ99777 Год назад

    Cola will never die. Interesting dissertation. Looking back they probably wonder why they were so hell bent on landing in that shit hole anyway. Diversions can be a fun adventure.

  • @elarr8733
    @elarr8733 Год назад

    Wish they could've had Wilford Brimley read that.

  • @Ackermanmedia
    @Ackermanmedia Год назад

    I trained at Mesa Air Group in Farmington back in 1996 training in the Bonanza, then Barron and eventually transitioning into the 1900. This program was doomed from the beginning, bent landing gear and hung over instructors everywhere. I had no idea the King Air was brought on by the 1900's success. haha learn something new everyday.

    • @flyingformoney777
      @flyingformoney777  Год назад +1

      I did my multi-commercial with them in Farmington. Small world…

    • @Ackermanmedia
      @Ackermanmedia Год назад

      @@flyingformoney777 Funny...are they still around? That place was a joke when I got there. I had to retake my private training with them and was grounded for 37 days when an overzealous instructor noticed my logbook had one flight that was taken with passengers out of currency. The flight was 2 years old, I hadn't completed a BFR. I went from first in my class to last in those 37 days, they told me my hiring status was in jeopardy so I walked away. Good thing I did, I ran into a buddy in Washington state in 2004 who I attended school with, he was flying standby for mountain west living in a hotel room 3 days out of every week making 64,000 a year. I miss flying but I don't miss the crappy money.

    • @flyingformoney777
      @flyingformoney777  Год назад

      @@Ackermanmedia I don’t think they’re around anymore. I didn’t get a job offer from them either. They never told me why. I got very high marks on everything there, but I guess they found a reason not to like me. I got a quick job flying turboprops and they were soon furloughing, so it worked out ok for me…

  • @airliner7478
    @airliner7478 Год назад

    So if you fly anything, assume anything even the unexpected can happen at any time? Sounds like a lesson for life, if you ask me...

  • @HyperSpaceProphet
    @HyperSpaceProphet Год назад

    Pretty harsh there, dude.
    long landing, yes. Slush? How could they have known?. Until you've had the pleasure of landing on unknown/unexpected slush, you can't really judge. Were it not for the slush, he'd have stopped.
    I'm guessing you are either not a pilot or a low time VFR one by your comments on this pilot.

    • @flyingformoney777
      @flyingformoney777  Год назад +10

      8,000 hours, check airman, 20 years total in aviation related jobs. It wasn’t my judgment. It was the NTSBs. It doesn’t make them bad guys, but the pilots were clearly to blame. They landed a quarter mile beyond the touchdown zone and clearly did not have the visibility for the approach. It was 1/2 mile in snow, so a contaminated runway is hardly a shock.

    • @HyperSpaceProphet
      @HyperSpaceProphet Год назад

      @@flyingformoney777 You've never pushed the limits on an approach?
      I don't discount what you say, but your analysis is still kinda harsh and somewhat "holier than thou".
      Sorry I discounted your experience, but it sounded like a pilot wannbe analysis.

    • @flyingformoney777
      @flyingformoney777  Год назад +2

      This wasn’t a moral judgement against those guys. Maybe my perspective is different. There were three separate elements that would have led to a failed checkride if this had been in the sim. First was continuing below MDA, twice, in visual conditions obviously below minimums (half of minimums, to be precise). Second was descending at well over 1,000 fpm below 200’ agl. Third was landing well outside the landing zone. Take away any one of these three “intentional error links-in-the-chain,” there is no crash.
      The point here isn’t blame game. It’s to reinforce adherence to operational policy. Like you said, pilots like to push the boundaries. It’s good to understand what the consequences can be.

    • @raoulcruz4404
      @raoulcruz4404 Год назад

      I think his analysis was spot on.
      Sometimes pilots (especially seasoned ones ) need a dose of reality from their peers.
      Harsh is destroying the airplane and injuring your passengers.

  • @RMR1
    @RMR1 Год назад

    Nice.

  • @mattdbk2440
    @mattdbk2440 Год назад

    Damn that was good

  • @Upnorthof48
    @Upnorthof48 9 месяцев назад

    You are incorrect on your autopilot assumption. The manual Alt on autopilot control panel can be clicked up or down in 30’ increments without disengaging the autopilot. Don’t bash, Karma is a bitch

    • @flyingformoney777
      @flyingformoney777  9 месяцев назад

      They turned the autopilot off prior to descending below the 100’ increment, like I said in the video. They leveled for both approaches at the 100’ increment according to the NTSB. They weren’t using a “manual Alt” function.
      They landed well outside the touchdown zone with a tailwind on a contaminated runway. They went off the end at 40 knots. I’m not bashing. But it was pilot error, plain and simple.

  • @sigbauer9782
    @sigbauer9782 Год назад

    It can't happen to me...I am not a pilot, lol.
    j/k, I am, but it still wouldn't.

  • @michaeljohn8905
    @michaeljohn8905 Год назад

    Absolute GOLD ! I hope a lot of people are watching or listening to these pearls of wisdom.
    I know you can’t mitigate all possible causes of crashes but you sure as hell can put the odds in your favor.
    I consider myself a decent pilot with a lot to learn. I raised a lot of hell when I was young but when I get in an airplane specially with other people I become someone else.my girlfriend says I drive slow like her grandfather. I’ll take that as a compliment. I drive like I fly yeah it’s fun to depress the Excelerator but only in a safe manner. I’m an adrenaline junky for sure butI take this biz extra serious because there are very few second chances in this game.
    I work in the industry and I see the guys who are possible candidates for stuff like this .it’s scary because you hear them say things like you have to be stupid to do things like that . I’ve done this 1000 times ! SMH 🫣
    If you’re not taking this seriously then please think of other people that you might hurt.
    I wish there was a way to test for stupidity but there isn’t. Until then ,Be safe out there !