I get why these cars were problematic: Cause even while they were built in the early to mid 90's, they came with Direct Current motors. BART could've bought these with AC motors, then they would have been the last to go.
There were a few more reasons, including the APSE particularly for the C2s, and flipper doors for the C cars in general. A comprehensive midlife rehab for the C1 cars never happened (but there was smaller scope rehab) as was with the C2s - given the timing, it would have made no sense to rehab the C2s. The book will have the complete story on what was wrong with them but here are a few more details on the Final C1 page: bartcars.weebly.com/final-c1-cars.html
C1s are Alstom built (1987-1990, Union City CA) fleet nos 301-450. C2s are MK built (1994-1996 Hornell, NY and Pittsburg, CA) fleet nos 2501-2580. There are visual differences in armrests, lighting, intercar doors, plates, and certain undercar equipment.
What’s crazy is that most were only 25-27 years old when scrapped
The C2 cars are now long gone as the last C2 car was decommissioned on September 2 2021.
I miss the C2 cars and I hope they come back this year?
They are still in service, but until December 2023 the Legacy’s retire.
@@justaP42DC ok I see so that can have more fleet of the future new Bart trains
I like a or b train more
@@graysonma1143 I’m ok with the B cars
Do you remember in the first video what C1 car number that is? Looks like a 300 or 400 car series.
Yep, a C1 leading with 3 C2s in the train, IIRC it must have been one of the few (in those days) Hayward C1s
@@ATPTransit But do you know the car number or not? I think it looks like it starts with the 3XX series.
C1 car, somewhere between fleet numbers 301-450. Do you want the exact number? Will have to double check (takes some time).
@@ATPTransit Sure. No worries, take your time. Not rushing you
@WxStar101 It's car 344 on tr 505
I love the C Cars!
1:03 sounds like a jet
Do another series with C1 cars
Still taking video, will have a C1 and A car ones too sometime soon-ish
@@ATPTransit all the C2 cars came from the Hayward Yard the most
@@ATPTransit cool
I get why these cars were problematic: Cause even while they were built in the early to mid 90's, they came with Direct Current motors. BART could've bought these with AC motors, then they would have been the last to go.
There were a few more reasons, including the APSE particularly for the C2s, and flipper doors for the C cars in general. A comprehensive midlife rehab for the C1 cars never happened (but there was smaller scope rehab) as was with the C2s - given the timing, it would have made no sense to rehab the C2s. The book will have the complete story on what was wrong with them but here are a few more details on the Final C1 page: bartcars.weebly.com/final-c1-cars.html
I don’t like C cars at all but this is just sad to see them go honestly
Yep, rode the C2 cars a lot
How can you tell a C1 from a C2?
C1s are Alstom built (1987-1990, Union City CA) fleet nos 301-450. C2s are MK built (1994-1996 Hornell, NY and Pittsburg, CA) fleet nos 2501-2580. There are visual differences in armrests, lighting, intercar doors, plates, and certain undercar equipment.
The A cars are better than the C cars tbh
yup