Denying that some people were arrested the saos member said it on national TV, how ca you declare rrsult if you have done any investigation ababoshwe those parties who are defrauded unite and taje out this IEC
Saps member said 2 people have been arrested for tempering with IEC material which is ballot boxes...the chairman deny it. We know its a straight loss for ANC even in the eastern cape.
@@bonganidumisa1458 What evidence? The same exact videos everyone is showing? Mistakes in counting happen, human errors exist since we are not perfect. But If you did a recount for those it wouldn't change anything in the bigger scheme of things. There is something called The Law of Large Numbers.
You have to abide by corrupt rules. Wrong has to be punished. You need to listen to the people of the country. So if looting happens hold your hand up n be accountable
Guys just ask yourself this one question!, why are white South Africans so happy with the IEC🤔🤔🤔why are they not complaining and isn’t that strange??????
Could be alot of factors some more than others. 1) Maybe the results up or down will not affect them. 2) they understand and completely trust the iec's processes 3) they have money in the stock market that will be affected over petty issues. Ask them they all have different reasons, like farms, cricket, trade, wines, real estate market, etc. Raising grievances is important however wisdom dictates that a current issue should be weighed against all other dependencies and a decision be made on the impact. Do you know who else is not complaining? The black middle class. Elections dont affect them too much theyll adapt.
@@jongikhayangcebetsha6580 sounds more like reality than a conspiracy theory. The IEC is clearly corrupt and this whole thing was most likely orchestrated by the Oppenheimers. I mean who was voting for the DA? People left DA to vote for Action SA, BOSA, FF + and even PA so who exactly was voting for DA? That’s why they are so happy
There's nothing wrong with our voting process. These discussions are trying to give Zimbabwe vibes. MK expected a 2 thirds majority? They are crazy shame
Mina ngibona kunganzima kakhulu if engasekho ngoba singalwa sodwa siqedane nya kanti for now yena okhuzayo akayena umuntu okholelwa empini ulwa kakhulu ngomqondo
IEC is playing with us. Is "seat allocation" enquiry an objection ?. Why don't IEC beam objections publicly as results, so that everyone can see and determine that objections are worthy of noting or not.
@@mduduziMavundla7242 Ermmmmm, ok read my message again. It's got NOTHING to do with the ANC. It's about the low statistics that you say are too high. Load of BS.
@@ThabisoDlamini-yw6mi And that there is the exact problem. You get what you vote for. So hope you are not complaining about the roads, hospitals, schools, homes for people (not shacks) Corruption, theft, destruction and incompetence. - You get what you vote for.
Hhayi ngeke you cannot drclare tomorrow that will mean you dnt recognise voters. That is provoking us ss voters we will have to look at IEC with an enemy eye instead of independent commission
The voters are bigger than the IEC commission they must not look at Zuma or smaller parties , these people's are a front of multitude of angry unemployed South Africans. Markets are no bigger than the poor angry south Africans.
Interesting. MK is now playing the Zimbabwe opposition card. I seem to recall how no one in SA had a problem dismissing those claims. As South Africans, these complaints should also be dismissed.
Why results reverse... instead of being stable...why do you add something that is incomplete in the dash board ...we are not playing lot here . ..We voted
Family didn't get to vote this year, coz the place they voted at for the last elections wasn't reflecting, its like our votes disappeared, there's no record at all
It's shameful what our country has become 😢. These people can't even speak properly, but we should trust they know what they doing and nobody can hold them accountable
Bring the results please we vote no one can wherever is coming from and say the results are rigged, the same people are not complaining about results in kzn
He was not well prepared, imagine declaring free and fair elections before the announcement of national results Very embarrassing, Mamabolo was on the ball though
Mk please ask my question we cant allow IEC to add something that is incomplete on a dash board ....he must not play mind games ...Voting means lifetime change for us ....we are not playing Lotto here ....😢😢
Frankly speaking who do is supposed to come first of all the parties? This involvement after damage is tedious. eg how was the iec constituted and by whom? Did anyone think of the whites who are now expected to complain. And if they complain are they not going to be ridiculed as would be fit? Level the ground first and ensure equal footing into every avenue of governance. Eg by simply saying whites is incongruous. I can go on and on end but hei.
You ask me?? Maybe the heading was wrong??? Didn't see no markets on the ballot papers!!! Are they commissioned by the markets OR THE CONSTITUTION??? When you start answering questions with tongue slipping...QUERY...QUERY???
I am not persuaded by the answer to the rush when the constitution makes provision that 7days and the chairperson says there are many stakeholders who have interests inter alia the markets I guess this ingenious.what is the law for if some other interest should take precedent.
As IEC can see the questions from the floor and the number of objections, the country is suppose to get Public protector in this issue to investigate, and i cant hear the proper answer from this chairperson, IEC has got 30 years of service like Anc😂
IEC must stop playing with the people's lives.
They threaten citizens with police, are we going back to apartheid SA?
100 %
Get it right. No need to rush. The number of objections is high.
These IEC guys are arrogant, they are determined to serve their masters at all costs whilst majority of SAns starve
@@bonganidumisa1458 moron
this commission is acting very suspicious
Very arrogant, they are playing with fire. ANC government wants to turn SA into police state
Denying that some people were arrested the saos member said it on national TV, how ca you declare rrsult if you have done any investigation ababoshwe those parties who are defrauded unite and taje out this IEC
Saps member said 2 people have been arrested for tempering with IEC material which is ballot boxes...the chairman deny it. We know its a straight loss for ANC even in the eastern cape.
IEC is captured
Give us the evidence ...
@@truth-Hurts375 Evidence has been furnished to the IEC and to the SAPS.
Some evidence is presented all over social media
The video evidence is all over the media, only the beneficiaries decide to ignore it.
@@truth-Hurts375open your eyes you will see the evidence
@@bonganidumisa1458 What evidence? The same exact videos everyone is showing? Mistakes in counting happen, human errors exist since we are not perfect. But If you did a recount for those it wouldn't change anything in the bigger scheme of things. There is something called The Law of Large Numbers.
Nonsense IEC
This guy talks too much without saying anything. It seems he thinks he is giving the results for Pop Idol.
He is talking a lot 3ubbish
@@thembalihlekhwatsha538 state the facts instead of insults. Everyone can hull an insult, insults ALWAYS come from small minds.
@@bonganidumisa1458 it is a fact not an insult, again I repeat he is talking trash
@@thembalihlekhwatsha538 substantiate your point. That's what is expected in any discussions
Cha kumele baboshwe laba defrauding SA imposing wrong Government
You have to abide by corrupt rules. Wrong has to be punished. You need to listen to the people of the country. So if looting happens hold your hand up n be accountable
There will be no looting
I don't want to be in their shoes shame,what a paraphrasing to protect the nation and their integrity
Guys just ask yourself this one question!, why are white South Africans so happy with the IEC🤔🤔🤔why are they not complaining and isn’t that strange??????
The Rand has lost over 2% of its value against the dollar in just the 3 days since the election. Noise and uncertainty are bad for business.
I think they are not into conspiracy theories as much as us
Could be alot of factors some more than others. 1) Maybe the results up or down will not affect them. 2) they understand and completely trust the iec's processes 3) they have money in the stock market that will be affected over petty issues.
Ask them they all have different reasons, like farms, cricket, trade, wines, real estate market, etc.
Raising grievances is important however wisdom dictates that a current issue should be weighed against all other dependencies and a decision be made on the impact.
Do you know who else is not complaining? The black middle class. Elections dont affect them too much theyll adapt.
@@jongikhayangcebetsha6580 sounds more like reality than a conspiracy theory. The IEC is clearly corrupt and this whole thing was most likely orchestrated by the Oppenheimers. I mean who was voting for the DA? People left DA to vote for Action SA, BOSA, FF + and even PA so who exactly was voting for DA? That’s why they are so happy
Stolen votes from MK were given to these white parties hence the coalition with the ruling party
Something's not right here😢
Some of your answers are not that clear to the questions asked Sir.
He is saying a whole of nothing
These ones are paid by Ramaphosa
And the Openheimers ....
Meaning Ramaphalaphala
I disagree coz the arleged lost at least 14% imagine.
You should pass an IQ test and pay taxes to be able to vote.
very likely that we see coalition between DA & ANC
Maybe that is why the White Racist Domkoppe are so quiet....they are all disappointed in themself !!!
This is provoking 😮
Yeyi problem is coming 😡💪🏽
@@zamothegodfather8392 their arrogance undermines our intelligence. There's a lot of video intelligence all over showing ballot boxes being dumped
There's nothing wrong with our voting process. These discussions are trying to give Zimbabwe vibes. MK expected a 2 thirds majority? They are crazy shame
Asingayivumi le asiyilwe esekhona umsholozi ngoba if engasekho bazosehlula
Mina ngibona kunganzima kakhulu if engasekho ngoba singalwa sodwa siqedane nya kanti for now yena okhuzayo akayena umuntu okholelwa empini ulwa kakhulu ngomqondo
Why vote for a stupid party? When will you learn?
Anc = IEC
100% Ramaphalaphala =IEC
Ai shame, chest pains
IEC is playing with us. Is "seat allocation" enquiry an objection ?.
Why don't IEC beam objections publicly as results, so that everyone can see and determine that objections are worthy of noting or not.
Why vote for a stupid party? When will you learn?
This IEC is questionable, I don't have trust in them. If they are doing some corruption we cannot be told just by them and we accept.
Did you not hear him say YOU are allowed to audit the electoral process?
@@t.kmartin1026 I have seen IEC transporting voting materials without the police escorts, what does that mean? They were dodging.
@@mandlenkosicorneliasdlamin7175 Did you report that discrepancy?
@@mandlenkosicorneliasdlamin7175 You can audit results yourself. Go ahead bro, stop complaining behind your screen. Be useful. Let's see.
Why vote for a stupid party? When will you learn?
This country is too angry for the ANC to still have so many votes something is not right here board glitched too how and why?
41% is not high at all. First time ever they don’t have majority.
@wda_digital we not talking about ANC here we talking about people who was send back home without voting because IEC changed the demarcation rules
If you angry with ANC don't think everyone is angry
@@mduduziMavundla7242 Ermmmmm, ok read my message again. It's got NOTHING to do with the ANC. It's about the low statistics that you say are too high. Load of BS.
@@ThabisoDlamini-yw6mi And that there is the exact problem. You get what you vote for. So hope you are not complaining about the roads, hospitals, schools, homes for people (not shacks) Corruption, theft, destruction and incompetence. - You get what you vote for.
ANC and IEC are using ZanuPF strategy
Very true
…and the DA, it cannot get 55% when it has lost so many membership. Ngeke!
They take us for a ride
IEC looks very dodgy!....
The IEC has never had drama ,they come out ,let us vote then go back into their hole.
Hhayi ngeke you cannot drclare tomorrow that will mean you dnt recognise voters. That is provoking us ss voters we will have to look at IEC with an enemy eye instead of independent commission
Bayasijwayela, bakhohliswa ukuzwa amaphoyisa ethembisa ukubopha abantu uma belwa nenkohlakalo
The voters are bigger than the IEC commission they must not look at Zuma or smaller parties , these people's are a front of multitude of angry unemployed South Africans. Markets are no bigger than the poor angry south Africans.
Fake result we re not stupid
Give us real ones then clever...
I think statistics and the party that has been voted in for last 30 years would show otherwise, The majority of South Africans are extremely stupid
IEC briefing is not make sure. Something is off
Why vote for a stupid party? When will you learn?
baningi abazophelelwa umsebenzi la ngoba bazitshela ukuthi bandwebile!!!
Cheeters in the IEC avoiding the recount because they helped certain parties who paid them or cheeting that why they rushing to announce the results
I agree with you!
Why vote for a stupid party? When will you learn?
@@Mathilda5xpWhy vote for a stupid party? When will you learn?
Interesting. MK is now playing the Zimbabwe opposition card. I seem to recall how no one in SA had a problem dismissing those claims. As South Africans, these complaints should also be dismissed.
Hey wen we are talking about 26 parties here not MK party
Yazi labantu bazodala udlame olungenasdingo esouth africa. Why bengazilaleli ikhalazo😞
Poor listening skills. He said they are eorking on them
Into edina kakhulu ngo iec ukuthi nabo they seems like bayingxenye yabacindezeli
Kakhulu!!!,ngathi basebenza nabo abacindazeli bethu!
Sekungaze kusuke udlame olungena sdingo ngenxa yabelungu besiqhatha sodwa ngenxa nje yemali anc nd iec bayasidayisa siyahlupheka emazingeni aphansi sicindezelwa imithetho esiphila ngaphansi kwayo nd sikhathele manje sesibekezele kakhulu we need change
Why vote for a stupid party? When will you learn?
@@Qhawemusic7384Why vote for a stupid party? When will you learn?
You are oppressing yourself because you are too stupid to look past skin colour
Why results reverse... instead of being stable...why do you add something that is incomplete in the dash board ...we are not playing lot here . ..We voted
Why hurry
Yes, why hurry, as if quickly want to push under rug and move on. They don’t want questions.
Why vote for a stupid party? When will you learn?
JUST HERE FOR COMMENTS .... AGREE OR DISAGREE
IEC response is unclear
Why saying so? Most objections are behaviours.not ballots.do why stopped ballots.instead of behaviors.
Those Auditor are not doing their jobs
The so called auditors may very well be captured
How many votes came from outside SA and were they captured accurately?
Almost 99%
This dude is captured trust me
Awekho lama result
Some people said the system can't be tempered with and its perfect, but IEC just confirmed there can be irregularities and it can be edited!! Iyoo!
Kahle Kahle Nina ne ANC niyasibhoza kaze umphakathi South Africa ithula uthini Uma ibona konke lokungcola
Please IEC dont rush.
Mr Mbeje is not happy about his colleague asking such question
😂😂😂
This is a joke to him, uyahleka.
What's the rush about
There’s letter before elections from DA to ANC , to meet and discuss. There you have it. Look and see
Everywhere Zuma is involved... There is turmoil, disorder and disagreements all the time.
"The thief comes only to steal, kill and destroy"
Family didn't get to vote this year, coz the place they voted at for the last elections wasn't reflecting, its like our votes disappeared, there's no record at all
That is why you have to make sure your name is on the voters roll !!!
Wa tseba ke table jwang ke mmuso o tlang wa kopanelo ❤❤
South Africa is toooooo tolerant
Exactly!
We're not anxious, we want free and fair elections
Really beyond any redemption this betrayed country. Cry the betrayed betrayed country.
This man make me sick
DA CONT BE ABOVE MK...THATS IMPOSSIBLE
Usho ngani, u are crazy
You are exposing your level of stupidity 🤞
The IEC is correpected
Give's my stomachache
There was never state capture under Msholozi, it is under ramaposa that every arm of the dtste was captured
Really , were you sleeping or are you just ignorant? What happened with the Gupta's?
@@gummy3377 you were sleeping you ignorant white man, we don't listen to mainstream news, we back, Msholozi is back!
It's shameful what our country has become 😢. These people can't even speak properly, but we should trust they know what they doing and nobody can hold them accountable
Well done IEC - I am so impressed with Mr Moepya and Dr Masuku. Praying you God's grace and wisdom and speed as you finalise all matters.
what they rush if there is complain?
I suspect that you're also capture, how can you agree with this nonsense?
Rigging votes
The IEC is Acting Suspicious 🤨
IEC definitely had president JZ briefing
No rush to announce the results
Bring the results please we vote no one can wherever is coming from and say the results are rigged, the same people are not complaining about results in kzn
Last time it was 50 public concerns and then 500 with political parties and public concerns 2024 also included well tats concerning
Lezi zinja ziyaphika manje ukuthi kunabantu ababanjiwe yize noma sesazi isizwe ngezigebengu ezisebenzisana nabo.
Bazitshela ukuthi bayazi, bantshontsha emini kwabha
I wonder how and who selects the auditors.. are they transparent when auditing, and are they impartial and fair
It must be changed for next election because there are working for ANC
Already captured before we even completed. South African coraption knows no bounds
Don't undermine the credibility of the IEC!
Scammers
This was just Gaslighting.
When Anc and DA is quiet they are up to something. Let's wait and see
He was not well prepared, imagine declaring free and fair elections before the announcement of national results
Very embarrassing, Mamabolo was on the ball though
People must just be allowed to revote especially people that were away from their voting station that they usually vote in or recount people's votes
This man is not talking straight. He is not saying whether he is going to recount or not and rushing to say results will be released tomorrow
My is are the political party's sitting in when their results are being captured?
Mk please ask my question we cant allow IEC to add something that is incomplete on a dash board ....he must not play mind games ...Voting means lifetime change for us ....we are not playing Lotto here ....😢😢
IEC KA ANC
…no DA.
Frankly speaking who do is supposed to come first of all the parties? This involvement after damage is tedious. eg how was the iec constituted and by whom? Did anyone think of the whites who are now expected to complain. And if they complain are they not going to be ridiculed as would be fit? Level the ground first and ensure equal footing into every avenue of governance. Eg by simply saying whites is incongruous. I can go on and on end but hei.
What was the role of the Spectators from other countries?
The system of using ballot paper and points to vote must End. Elections needs Digital system.
What does IEC have to do with the markets? 30:00
You ask me?? Maybe the heading was wrong??? Didn't see no markets on the ballot papers!!! Are they commissioned by the markets OR THE CONSTITUTION??? When you start answering questions with tongue slipping...QUERY...QUERY???
I am not persuaded by the answer to the rush when the constitution makes provision that 7days and the chairperson says there are many stakeholders who have interests inter alia the markets I guess this ingenious.what is the law for if some other interest should take precedent.
They still want 2 third majority
IEC is playing with people n i dont understand why they don't cancel our names because we voted on the 28th of may but my name was not canceled
This dude is so annoying
Real scammers!!!!!!
As IEC can see the questions from the floor and the number of objections, the country is suppose to get Public protector in this issue to investigate, and i cant hear the proper answer from this chairperson, IEC has got 30 years of service like Anc😂
Ive notice all questions linked to MK party not intertained,something is not right here😮
Because MK party and it's followers have low IQ and do not deserve answers
I wonder if anc is part of those parties with objections
Who is checking if the votes are captured correctly 🤔 that question was not answered
Special votes had two envelopes. One with the voters name and the other had IEC print. Was that right. I feel those votes were not private
Why do they keep us waiting for results ... Speeches are over please ..you make us suspect you
Wow! Everything in this briefing about these people shows there is a lot of fishy going on here.
Insisting on Grant thornton, will be the end of you😂😂
They need to rush it so results aren’t queried. 😂😂
It's the end of us, wena MOSOTHO YOU ARE SMILING COS YOUR POCKETS ARE FULL😡
We as voters means nothing to IEC?