How oldschool multi-track recording works. Tascam 4-track

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  • @gsxerwhite
    @gsxerwhite 5 лет назад +139

    I wanted a four track so bad in 91 but I couldn't ask my parents after they already spent a fortune on instruments for me. Young musicians are living in an incredible era for recording and instrument availability.

  • @RandomnessTube.
    @RandomnessTube. 5 лет назад +268

    So much respect for people who made house music back in the day made with love and hard work.

    • @SheThe1Who
      @SheThe1Who 4 года назад +9

      👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

    • @JanKowalski-vh1rg
      @JanKowalski-vh1rg 2 года назад +4

      They were using sequencers and MIDI so keeping on track wasn't hard

    • @Tupadre8976
      @Tupadre8976 2 года назад +1

      More like Rock

    • @M364A
      @M364A Год назад

      @@Tupadre8976 why rock?

  • @Jaspertine
    @Jaspertine 8 лет назад +1843

    Dude, you wanna talk about broke musicians? I used to *Rent* one of those things. Actually buying one seemed like a crazy pipe dream back then.

    • @nomadben
      @nomadben 7 лет назад +28

      Jaspertine haha that's awesome. What kind of place did you rent it from?

    • @tim76239
      @tim76239 7 лет назад +64

      I worked at a Sound and lighting rental company and I "borrowed" a big ole Tascam all the time and never got anything good out of it

    • @patrick6350
      @patrick6350 6 лет назад +74

      It's a pipe dream again given how much these things go for these days.

    • @djdigital3806
      @djdigital3806 6 лет назад +19

      Jaspertine
      I'm Digital and a proud broke musician.
      Love vintage equipment.

    • @MattWarb2
      @MattWarb2 6 лет назад +3

      Dj Digital what do you think of the Teenage Engineering OP-1? I think it's an amazing piece of equipment.

  • @DeviatingVapors
    @DeviatingVapors 3 года назад +9

    there were 4 tape standers back then
    I - Normal
    II - Chrome
    III - Ferrichrome (wasn’t very popular, so was dropped)
    IV - Metal
    the heads and the biasing need to match in the recording deck and the playback deck.
    that was the lowest end model they made, and as you mentioned better units offered changes in the IPS to use more tape per second to increase the bandwidth for the recording. some units could also do bouncing (letting you merge one or more tracks to an open track to free up space for further recording).
    those were the first machines cheap enough to allow a regular person to explore multi track. rented one from a music store in high school for a week, shared it with my lead guitarist, he was able to think non linearly .. vs I needed to do everything in one go.

  • @SuzanneKowalski
    @SuzanneKowalski 8 лет назад +391

    Lazy Game Reviews, TechMoan and this channel are the only channels on RUclips (I'm aware of) that not only have informative and perfectly edited videos, but these guys talk in a very non-offensive way that should be more common among content creators. I just feel relaxed watching these videos.

    • @8BitKeys
      @8BitKeys  8 лет назад +45

      Hahah.. You mean in contrast to The Angry Video Game Nerd or something?

    • @SuzanneKowalski
      @SuzanneKowalski 8 лет назад +23

      Exactly. :D AVGN is very entetaining if you can accept he's only a character acted by James Rolfe, but still a bit too much for me after a while. There's enough frustration in the world around me anyway. :)

    • @aidanstenson7063
      @aidanstenson7063 8 лет назад +5

      I watch all of those channels and love them

    • @Damaniel3
      @Damaniel3 8 лет назад +6

      I'm a happy subscriber to all three and have been for quite a while, for this exact reason.

    • @AwesumIndustrys
      @AwesumIndustrys 7 лет назад +6

      There’s Nostalgia Nerd.

  • @jeremymiller7793
    @jeremymiller7793 2 года назад +26

    I had this Tascam and I loved it!
    I lost the recorder after moving.
    I paid $100 new in 2001 and now a used one is close to $300.

  • @JimJWalker
    @JimJWalker 8 лет назад +324

    This is how I learned how to record my music in the late 1980s on a Tascam Porta One. By learning proper microphone placement, room acoustics, exact playing technique, and judicious bouncing of tracks while also making the most of the limited EQ available, I learned the lessons that have served me well in my life journey in music in the modern age of the digital audio workstation. I almost feel sorry for those who did not experience these the limitations I had; for example audio compression. This was something that I had to rely on tape saturation to achieve, today it so common as an audio effect in every computer based recording software that I am not sure that the younger generation appreciates the luxury of this technology. Then again, I hate admitting I am an old fart.

    • @checkerace50
      @checkerace50 8 лет назад +8

      We appreciate the technology. We all started out at one point and sat there scratching our heads wondering why this part of the vocal or the guitar is louder than this part etc etc. Not to mention in today's audio industry, everything is overcompressed (I am guilty) and not too long ago was a loud war (not guilty). Also, it would be great if compressors were as easy as a LA2A but they're not and most of us don't have $4K to spend on a great vintage compressor. Compression is a complicated thing to master. It can really change the direction of the song. Something that is heavily compressed will sound like it's in your face and if the song isn't in your face and the vocal is, well then the vocal is sitting on top of the mix which isn't good.

    • @wes_m
      @wes_m 8 лет назад

      The LA2A emulation(s) on the UAD Apollo interface sounds great. So does the UA 1176.

    • @JimJWalker
      @JimJWalker 8 лет назад +9

      An 1176...lol, a Boss RCL-10 micro compressor was a dream unit for me and still beyond my budget then (and now). I was lucky to have a SM-57 microphone. Audio always has been a rich man's game and it has been my experience that those who can afford high end equipment often have no idea what to do with it.

    • @checkerace50
      @checkerace50 8 лет назад +1

      Wes Murray
      I haven't used any of UA's plugins. I've been using Waves for years. I like their CLA2A. Would like to test some of Universal Audio's plugins.

    • @checkerace50
      @checkerace50 8 лет назад

      Jim Walker
      btw, I found that compressor for $100

  • @rustedskelotonproductionse3687
    @rustedskelotonproductionse3687 6 лет назад +21

    This is how I remember recording in the beginning. We used to do the editing with a small blade and clear sticky tape lol!!! I still believe that the recordings of the past is of way better quality than the digital recordings of today.

    • @dafunkmuzic989
      @dafunkmuzic989 5 лет назад +1

      Amen

    • @380stroker
      @380stroker 5 лет назад +3

      Analog recording are better. Not in the dynamic range department, but consider the fact that converters, word clock, jitter, dither, bit depth, sampling rate, 32 bit or 64 mix engines don't exist in the tape world. A Tape transfer to vinyl was like heaven.

    • @countrabricksbuildcraze8916
      @countrabricksbuildcraze8916 5 лет назад

      Dope that's good digital is way to clean for me ....

    • @countrabricksbuildcraze8916
      @countrabricksbuildcraze8916 5 лет назад

      Yer good old sticky tape over hole s on any blank or old tape an keep recording on them..then 4 track came in. Got confusing one added to much ..an tape s from then. Whant play. In today tape deck s an music play all scrabeld lol unless thru 4 track. Put all onto track one. I got tunn of old school tape s Pbs hip hop show recording s an live Dj battle DMC s an gigs .dope to play. Tape. Sound slow. If tape s from orly 90 s only just got tape deck larst year. As my old school bomb box spring Brock of. Hard to find any body who fixes tape deck s. So hopeing to get dubble caset deck. For tape to tape recording agen. Sume of my stuff home recorded is dope just wish I was pro. Producer back in 90 s but I gess I was in my own right. ..my sirtch is on for working dubble tape deck or aux .into ..two tape deck. I still got old school sanyo silver pa amp.with mic input plus. Is dope an pioneer equlizer old skool type .taken it back to late 80 s orly 90 s

  • @scarholmen
    @scarholmen 8 лет назад +70

    i recorded friend's band this spring on a similar tape recorder. Feels kinda nice when you don't have to look at a computer screen during the recording.

    • @countrabricksbuildcraze8916
      @countrabricksbuildcraze8916 5 лет назад +2

      Oh yes magic. Awsum..bring it back I say. But can still up load recordings from 4 track to a computer if need be to add or mix an compress plus. .

  • @tonyhill8963
    @tonyhill8963 6 лет назад +324

    So when you play Ghostbusters backwards, you hear Devo. Got it.

  • @raizoc5178
    @raizoc5178 5 лет назад +295

    I recorded one of my creations over my sister's Michael Jackson tape when I was a kid and I got whooped for that.

    • @2Niche4U
      @2Niche4U 5 лет назад

      😁

    • @klvAcosta
      @klvAcosta 5 лет назад

      Hahahahaha!!!! 😂

    • @hakonsoreide
      @hakonsoreide 5 лет назад +9

      You got told off for having used normal instead of metal tape, I presume?

    • @countrabricksbuildcraze8916
      @countrabricksbuildcraze8916 5 лет назад

      Hahar. Dam. I youst to take the odd tape I fount. An put tape over the end to record. If had no blank tape s. Dam u made this video. But u dident have a taskam back in day s. I'm holding to buy one asap

    • @RoomAtTheTopStudio
      @RoomAtTheTopStudio 5 лет назад +3

      That brought back memories. I was either getting beaten or I was beating someone for taping over cassettes in the 80's. That was a serious offense.

  • @thomasrabon9964
    @thomasrabon9964 Год назад +1

    Dear lord. I’ve had one of these for 14 years and have done so many home recordings with it trying to record on both sides. I had no idea about how to actually do any of this properly!
    Thank you!

    • @thomasrabon9964
      @thomasrabon9964 Год назад

      Can you or anyone tell me how to clear the tracks properly after finishing a track?

    • @SamsonIsBored07
      @SamsonIsBored07 Год назад

      @@thomasrabon9964 Just erase the tape.

  • @SplotchTheCatThing
    @SplotchTheCatThing 5 лет назад +14

    Very cool piece of information. I didn't start *writing* music till well into the 2000s but I'm still old enough to remember cassette tapes and tape recorders and all that fun stuff... when I was a kid it was my dream to use that record button to make something cool. But I wound up using a record button on a computer instead. ;)
    If I was born a decade earlier, I could certainly see myself using something like this. :) Another life, another time.

  • @gilberttosanchez
    @gilberttosanchez 3 года назад +1

    dude i love how warm the 4 track sounds and the hissing is sooo dopeee

  • @balzac617
    @balzac617 8 лет назад +646

    The 4-track is the mother of BLACK METAL.

    • @JCavLP
      @JCavLP 8 лет назад +38

      Mathieu Vaillancourt yes but Recording quality was too good

    • @balzac617
      @balzac617 8 лет назад +85

      DJC9000 Productions hahaha not if you record it in a forest.

    • @SPAZZOID100
      @SPAZZOID100 8 лет назад +4

      DJC9000 Productions huhh??

    • @excessofficialTV
      @excessofficialTV 7 лет назад +25

      This was the mother of Kraftwerk records too.

    • @lord_yog-sothoth
      @lord_yog-sothoth 6 лет назад +28

      And don't forget to use a pair of cheap headphones as a microphone

  • @houseofskunk
    @houseofskunk Год назад +1

    I picked one up the other day at a thrift shop. I always wanted one growing up! Thank you so much for this tutorial. I'm excited to go back and learn the analog ways of recording. They actually appeal to me more than digital which has always been daunting and confusing. Thanks again!

  • @RothBeyondTheGrave
    @RothBeyondTheGrave 4 года назад +13

    Had that exact unit in the 90's and loved every minute.I've had the pleasure of tracking in a handful of multi million dollar facilities as I got older, and still wished I had something simple like this at home. It's real, and you really have to be able to play. Period. I'll take the sound from this over some digitally harsh, disgusting og box or equivalent any day.

  • @darylllanier2591
    @darylllanier2591 5 лет назад +421

    When quantization didn't exist and perfect timing was imperative for musicians/producers.

    • @f.herumusu8341
      @f.herumusu8341 5 лет назад +42

      "Perfect Timing" and quantization are two different things. Bernard Edwards of Chic was a "Grove-Master" but far from playing perfect quantized tracks.

    • @radddch3293
      @radddch3293 5 лет назад +10

      Back in the day I used to devote a track to stripe with FSK to get midi sync. Believe me the sync was much tighter than anything I have been able to achieve with midi over USB.

    • @sadniggahours4046
      @sadniggahours4046 5 лет назад +12

      but a lot of people quantize because of latency when recording

    • @10dthompson60
      @10dthompson60 5 лет назад +16

      @@sadniggahours4046 Yeah, and recordings are so hi-fi nowadays that a slight variation of timing is quite noticeable. A lot of hard rock and metal producers have to sync up double kicks and guitars if they're meant to match up since being even a fraction of a second off compromises the mix

    • @DICACIO1
      @DICACIO1 5 лет назад +21

      Shiiid, NEVER in my life would I ever use quantizing. It ruins the Natural way we play our instruments making it sound too robotic & perfect... there's no feeling or soul in the swing. Real/Raw music doesn't need quantizing, but I guess beginner musicians that can't keep up with the beat or even swing right, would probably use it to avoid being too sloppy 😂😂🎹🎵🎸

  • @skeeter197140
    @skeeter197140 6 лет назад +4

    Had one. Had a LOT of fun recording with it. Me and My drummer recorded 4 songs over a weekend, with me doing all guitars, bass and backing vocals, and him doing drums and lead vocals. What a frickin' blast!

  • @blookz7877
    @blookz7877 6 лет назад +2

    I loved how you setup your cables on the wall and your table. Nice setup. Your video was so good, right to the point. I keep listening all the way thru and learnes some things. Thanks!

  • @all_that_gazz
    @all_that_gazz 5 лет назад +27

    “Back in the 80’s and 90’s I thought MIDI was the way to go”
    Yep - same here, and I remember being so disappointed when I first got into MIDI and realised my Casio CTK 670 only had 4 MIDI channels.
    Mum & Dad couldn’t understand why I could possibly want or need another keyboard!!

    • @synthasia-5041
      @synthasia-5041 5 лет назад +2

      I still enjoy MIDI, My first setup was a yamaha PSR-47( basically a toy) and Atari PC with midi ports, have to agree i was also quite disappointed with it and its lowly 16 note polyphony :) try layering with it and PHbtttt notes cutting out all over the place..

    • @tonysteel1377
      @tonysteel1377 4 года назад +1

      I faced that same issue with that very same board! 😂 I did get a Yamaha TX 81-Z and only used the keyboard for one sound. My Alesis MMT-8 sequencer was the brains of my MIDI flow. My drum machine was a small Boss Dr Rhythm 550. I still use MIDI today, and whereas I’ve since upgraded sound modules and sequencer, I still use the Casio as a controller board only. The MPC 1000 is the brain now. Although I don’t use them, I still have my Tascam 424 four-track, and 488 MKII eight-track cassette recorders.

    • @all_that_gazz
      @all_that_gazz 4 года назад +1

      I felt like I need to come back to my own comment. I suppose I am still very much using MIDI because of all the virtual instruments I use, I think back in the 90's though MIDI seemed like the be all and end all, I'd quantise everything to death to the point where there was no emotion left in anything. Oh how much I've learnt since then!

  • @brianvarano5005
    @brianvarano5005 5 лет назад +2

    That is crazy! I had that exact Tascam four-track recorder, and I had a Casio CZ-1000! You just took me down a trip down memory lane!

  • @alejoromero
    @alejoromero 8 лет назад +11

    Your videos have become a source of joy to me. Love all your content mate, keep up the good work!!

  • @Awank_Kurniawan18
    @Awank_Kurniawan18 5 лет назад +2

    thank you sir, i like your video, make me sad, make me in tears remembering when i was child in 90's.
    now i know how difficult for people in the past to record legendary music as we know it today.
    there must have been great and patient editors of that era

  • @djbhe
    @djbhe 4 года назад +10

    Every DJ who wanted to be a producer in Chicago during the 80's House Music Movement used those 4 track recorders. Those were the days.

  • @willdwyer6782
    @willdwyer6782 3 года назад +5

    My uncle had one when I was a kid. Different model but functionally identical. The electronic musical instrument that fascinated me in the 1980s was the Casio VL-1.

  • @MrSammonkeyfist
    @MrSammonkeyfist 8 лет назад +9

    I still have one of these Tascams. Was a great little unit for drafting ideas.

  • @shayneoneill1506
    @shayneoneill1506 3 года назад +10

    Man I recorded so many songs on my Tascam 4 track in he early 90s. I'm running an 8 track reel to reel unit these days, but I actually have a sony 8 track cassette unit sitting around gathering dust. It actually sounded pretty great.

    • @weaseltears3785
      @weaseltears3785 2 года назад +1

      Let me know if you’re ever trying to get rid of that Sony 8 track!! I’d love one lol

    • @bobbythompson4268
      @bobbythompson4268 2 года назад

      Why reel to reel these days?

  • @tenslider6722
    @tenslider6722 5 лет назад +10

    in other words kids, appreciate what you got these days. Now this was music imagine what it was like editing videos lol

    • @iVan123
      @iVan123 4 года назад

      true.. it's amazing what music we can create with a laptop in our bedroom

  • @Andmusicforall-y5t
    @Andmusicforall-y5t 4 месяца назад

    Man this was a super educating session. I always wondered how musicians did that, and what they meant by saying '4 track recorder'. GREAT video!

  • @Vikotnick
    @Vikotnick 5 лет назад +3

    I remember getting a wavestation for christmas. I cried for about ten min. Greatest gift ever. My friend had a DAT and a mixer. Never figured out why my tracks were so low then. It was a while until I got a compressor.... good times.

  • @drpearso1
    @drpearso1 5 лет назад +2

    Interesting info regarding old school multitrack recording. That 4 track audio recorder was pretty darn neat. Now folks get an idea of why it takes so long to produce a song, and or album. Lots of mixing, etc etc.

  • @thierryruquier9416
    @thierryruquier9416 6 лет назад +3

    Oh man, you still have your Ghostbusters OST cassette! I really loved it back in the days and still do. So Eighties! Great video, by the way.

  • @gronxman1
    @gronxman1 3 месяца назад

    I'm so glad I found this video. I remember these machines from my youth though I never learned how to use them. I've just purchased an old Fostex 4 track to record some basic punk rock the traditional way. This video provides the perfect overview for me. Excellent work 👏

  • @Gaming829-l5g
    @Gaming829-l5g 7 лет назад +83

    This video was shown in my music GCSE class today

    • @marinacelada3246
      @marinacelada3246 5 лет назад +9

      The 8-Bit Guy reaches even schools!

    • @matte_uk
      @matte_uk 5 лет назад +1

      Gaming829 shown in my college music production class the other day!

  • @NeilVanceNeilVance
    @NeilVanceNeilVance 7 лет назад +1

    In the mid to late 80's a 4 tracker was the cheapest option ... A midi sequencer or midi computer was expensive. In 1988 I got the Atari & sequencer software and kept the 4 tracker for vocals / guitar etc. emm! they where great times. Great vid 8 bit man!

  • @mcarp555
    @mcarp555 5 лет назад +4

    I started out with the original TASCAM 144 Portastudio, which I loved. It was over a thousand dollars back in the day. Still have it boxed up.

  • @scottcupp8129
    @scottcupp8129 6 лет назад +1

    My first 4 track recorder was a Yamaha MT120. Had a lot of features. Those were the good ol days.. Kind of the first pro tools in sorts :) Love your videos. Keep them coming. Greetings from Hobbs New Mexico.

  • @astrosteve
    @astrosteve 3 года назад +5

    I have a friend who had a 4 track similar to that in the mid 90s. We used to hang out and I'd watch him record songs. I can't play any instruments (nor do I really know anything about music theory) but I'd give him suggestions. One thing I remember is he could use the 4 track itself to copy tracks around. So, for instance, he could record drums to track 1 and bass to track 2. Then he'd play both tracks at the same time while setting the 4 track to record to track 3. Track 3 now contains the drums and bass. Then he just records over tracks 1 and 2 with whatever he wants. He said it sounded sort of bad if you tried doing that trick with 3 tracks playing, so he never did more than two. Also, trying to copy 2 tracks made this way to a third also didn't work very well and sounded bad. I think he said he could effectively have a total of 6 tracks. (Copy 1 and 2 to 4. Record again on 1 and 2 and copy to 3. Then record on 1 and 2, no further copying possible. You could squeeze 7 in if you didn't mind sound degradation and copied tracks 1, 2 and 3 on the initial run.)
    Anyway, really nice video!

  • @TurnstyleBand
    @TurnstyleBand 4 года назад

    Most of our early works and demos were recorded on a Tascam 4-track. Great vid. Thanks.

  • @synthartist69
    @synthartist69 5 лет назад +34

    Before I had a 4 track I would record into a standard cassette deck a drum track. I would play it back and while playing it back I would play along with it my first keyboard track while recording the drums and keyboard into a 2nd cassette recorder and continue back and forth until the song was finished.

    • @nonsenseinmyhead9016
      @nonsenseinmyhead9016 5 лет назад

      synthartist69
      lol...man we were good at that back then! I’d do sometimes 20 x!

    • @countrabricksbuildcraze8916
      @countrabricksbuildcraze8916 5 лет назад

      Yes. Amazing it is. I say bring it back. Eazy an effective an raw. In own zone creating n recording it. I did one track. Hole thing is free style adding new tape an put tape into other side an keep adding. Befor I had a 4 track to ... I need a dubble tape deck asap ....an 4 track I can still get caset tapes TDK or box s of them ...collecting. Incase tape stops bean made ..like vhf. .but albums on caset tape are still bean made an still sale. I live pulling out my old recordings on caset tape s take me back to good ol late 80 s orly 90 s. .

    • @RoomAtTheTopStudio
      @RoomAtTheTopStudio 5 лет назад +2

      I learned to do one take vocals using a standard cassette deck as well in the same way. While it was playing back I would run the 2nd tape to record the harmonies and backing vocals. I used the instrumentals on the B side of singles to practice

    • @JoeyLevenson
      @JoeyLevenson 5 лет назад +1

      I’ve done that!

  • @HoodHandyman
    @HoodHandyman 5 лет назад

    THIS IS THE COOLEST VIDEO I HAVE SEEN ON RUclips IN A WHILE . sorry for the caps i'm just stoked about it!

  • @RogerSullivanNOLA
    @RogerSullivanNOLA 8 лет назад +16

    For bouncing down you could also route your output back into the input on the 4 track and record 3 tracks down to 1. Or to get all 4 tracks on the units that weren't double speed you could just mix down to left or right (or both to preserve stereo) on the other cassette deck and then put the tape right back into the 4 track to avoid double bouncing.

    • @Aejotz
      @Aejotz 8 лет назад +2

      I did that all the time with my old Cutec. Record four tracks on tape A, mix and send to tape B on good quality stereo recorder then put tape B in the 4-track. Then record two more tracks and add a "live" track during final send to stereo. 7 tracks total with only one bounce. Not bad. If you planned well, you bounced the sounds that were least harmed by the inevitable, if slight. degeneration of sound.

  • @krazyrocofficial
    @krazyrocofficial 5 лет назад +1

    This guy is very well organised and very clean that's pretty good, and I remember I used to be soo good at looping and recording tape to tape on stereo back in the 1997 when I recorded mixing breakdance music, good days.

  • @realGilby
    @realGilby 8 лет назад +6

    Really loving the new intro theme, it's pretty kick-ass

  • @morenoteslesstalk
    @morenoteslesstalk 5 месяцев назад

    Having TONS of fun with my Yamaha MT50 as we speak. My fascination with high-speed recording started with the Uher Reporter. I was blown away by the sound quality at max speed! Now, with a Marantz SD 3020 that I regularly use, I’ve explored various tapes and speeds-just reviewed it on my channel. I used my guitar to reveal what this Marantz can really do. The engineering behind these machines is truly something else.

  • @gvstavofabian
    @gvstavofabian 2 года назад +3

    When musicians have to do all in one take with so little edition, amazing

  • @RipperTheEntertainer
    @RipperTheEntertainer 5 лет назад +1

    Wow, this is what I needed back in my starting out earlier days of recording songs

  • @madspetersen1708
    @madspetersen1708 5 лет назад +115

    You forgot the “ping-pong” mode ejere you mix 3 tracks onto track 4 and thereby free up 3 tracks with minimal quality loss.

    • @mjoirg
      @mjoirg 5 лет назад +10

      My thoughts exactly. Frustrating to listen to his mix down approach.

    • @rexterrocks
      @rexterrocks 4 года назад +9

      Yeah ! 'Bouncing' - I would mix 4 tracks down to a stereo mix, then use that as a new 1 and 2 leaving 3 and 4 empty, and repeat. Or 4 into 1 leaving 2,3 and 4 etc That was the fun of using them.

    • @mikethebloodthirsty
      @mikethebloodthirsty 4 года назад +13

      You can't bounce down on tascam porta 02's. That's why he didn't do it, he knows his s***...

    • @krisscanlon4051
      @krisscanlon4051 4 года назад

      Bouncing?

    • @James-ke4gq
      @James-ke4gq 4 года назад +2

      i dont think you can do that on one of those really little guys
      def can on the big portastudios like 424's etc

  • @Goloptious1230
    @Goloptious1230 4 месяца назад +1

    The investigation of layered materials, such as multilayered graphene and NiPS3, holds great promise for developing a wide range of planar electronic devices.

  • @oztrekgelsoft8409
    @oztrekgelsoft8409 3 года назад +3

    Luv it I still use my original tascam 424 it is brilliant for natural tape saturation and also creating samples great episode. Btw glad you covered bouncing 🙌

  • @riley7796
    @riley7796 5 лет назад +2

    I got one of these. Got it from my dad from his 90s band days. I still plug it into my stuff and use it all the time. Ordered a bunch of cassettes off eBay and have a ton of fun

    • @FeelingShred
      @FeelingShred 5 лет назад

      we want videos of that... no... we NEED it... now, by the way... XDDD

  • @mikhailgorbachev3721
    @mikhailgorbachev3721 8 лет назад +7

    Far from perfect? That's amazing. I'd buy that in a heartbeat...

  • @lcdsebsystem
    @lcdsebsystem Год назад

    Was planning to record an elliott smith-ish style of music using a 4-track but had no idea how to use one. this made it rlly simple thank u :)

  • @MrPotz-lg4mj
    @MrPotz-lg4mj 5 лет назад +4

    I still have this same unit. I'm feeling kinda' nostalgically inspired to break it out and mess around with it.

    • @countrabricksbuildcraze8916
      @countrabricksbuildcraze8916 5 лет назад

      Lucky u. Or if u would swoop or sale it. Pleas let me know. If all still works .injoy.

    • @dustinpollard6237
      @dustinpollard6237 4 года назад

      Im about to buy one and start my journey, at 41 lol.

  • @magneto7930
    @magneto7930 4 года назад +1

    I used to love these toys in the 80's! You can play along with a pre-programmed drum computer, and if you have more than one keyboard you can play bass on one with one hand and the regular rhythm or chords on the other keyboard with the other hand. This is a way to have stereo drums, stereo keyboards, and a centered bass all on just two tracks of the four track recorder (an equivalent of 5 tracks). Then you have two more tracks to do whatever you want and you didn't have to bounce anything. You can also punch things in or put a lead guitar solo where there is no vocal. It helps to be able to do more than one thing simultaneously. I remember having a microphone close to the floor recording a tambourine being played with my feet while simultaneously playing a guitar with stereo reverb. So as you can see I had an equivalent to 8 track recording while keeping everything in stereo. You're basically doing a live performance while making sure everything is balanced.

  • @yannastra
    @yannastra 4 года назад +3

    Wow this really makes you wonder what was like to make music at a home studio in previous decades! Like I started recording in a daw in my tablet back in 2014 (it was GarageBand) and although it felt very limited it was ligues ahead of what that lovely Tascam recorder has to offer. Now I use Logic Pro X and I’m quite used to having access to virtually endless tracks and effects but seeing machines like the one featured in the video makes you appreciate the possibilities that technology brings us.

  • @leardvr
    @leardvr 7 лет назад +1

    Wow, this was me in high school, 88-91 4 channel mixer and keyboard. Used midi as a controller for other instruments such as my keytar. BTW reloading the final mix back in is exactly how we added vocal tracks. We ended up with 6 or 7 track recording at home that way. God they took forever, we thought we were going to be something someday.

  • @chriswilliamstunes1
    @chriswilliamstunes1 5 лет назад +2

    Most on here have no idea what recording on tape was like. You would appreciate what we have now so much. However, tape was so much warmer and wonderful sounding

    • @chriswilliamstunes1
      @chriswilliamstunes1 5 лет назад

      David Singleton Have you ever worked with Tape? Its much warmer sounding and can be just as clean: if recorded right

  • @robvegas9354
    @robvegas9354 4 года назад

    i have an old fostex 4 tracker somewhere in the garage - crazy times making demos with that back in the 90's.. i used the 4 track to create crazy glitches like slow the tape down or speed it up or flip the tape over for reverse delay sounds.. and the gain you could add to tracks on mixdown was wild... good times!!! Thank you for sharing this video and bringing back some awesome music memories

  • @yungheat84
    @yungheat84 5 лет назад +60

    I used to record music off the radio and then record my voice rapping over the that music

    • @FeelingShred
      @FeelingShred 5 лет назад +5

      Pretty sure someone out there must have created the first "Reaction" audios just like that, in an old box somewhere

    • @robvegas9354
      @robvegas9354 4 года назад +2

      rad - i used to do the same with guitar and sing like try to play along and listen back! good times!!

    • @JC20XX
      @JC20XX 3 года назад

      That's awesome

  • @stringedassassin
    @stringedassassin 6 лет назад +1

    My old old bands first two demos were done on one of these... still have it packed away with gear somewhere here.
    Bouncing drums, 2 guitars, a lead, bass and vox, all on 4 tracks. Fun stuff!!

  • @MattGreerMusic
    @MattGreerMusic 8 лет назад +12

    Check out Alessandro Cortini (guitarist and synthesist for NIN). He has a box of tapes and one of those old 4 track units on stage and they use them for drones and other elements of their songs.
    Other musicians are also recording a single sustaining note, usually one of a 4 part chord, to each track and then using these units to perform with along other synthesizers, drum machines, etc.

  • @Guns-Guitars1310
    @Guns-Guitars1310 4 года назад

    Man I loved my old Tascam 4 track. We would record with it all the time. Great video!

  • @organfairy
    @organfairy 8 лет назад +16

    The manual for my Yamaha MT3X describes how you can record up to 10 layers on the same tape without any of the 4 tracks being transferred more than once: First you record in tracks 1, 2, and 3. You then transfer those to track 4 while mixing in a fourth layer. Now there are 4 layers on track 4. You then record on track 1 and 2. You transfer those to track 3 while mixing in a third layer. Now there are 4 layers on track 4 and 3 layers on track 3. You record on track 1 and transfer this to track 2 while mixing in a second layer. Finally you record the last layer on track 1. So now there are 10 layers total and none has been transferred more than once.

    • @michaelhamerin3814
      @michaelhamerin3814 6 лет назад +1

      It's called track bouncing.

    • @TheStuF
      @TheStuF 5 лет назад

      @@michaelhamerin3814 its called a good explanation of track bouncing and how to do it well. Actually :)

    • @TheStuF
      @TheStuF 5 лет назад

      Great explanation.

  • @clappingjazzhands9408
    @clappingjazzhands9408 6 лет назад

    I started using an old tube reel to reel recorder. The invention of the Tascam 4-track was much appreciated. I still use one today well as the old reel to reel.

  • @EnochDark
    @EnochDark 5 лет назад +20

    still makes me feel old that a video entitled "oldschool" shows basically the last 4 track tape recorder ever made... you know WAYYYY back in like 2001...

  • @424Recording
    @424Recording 7 лет назад

    Great visual explanation as to how 4 tracks work! I use a Tascam 424 mkiii which has 8 inputs and people often ask how to record onto tracks 5-8; I'll send them here to check out your explanation and graphics at around 2:05; while there are 8 inputs on the 424 mkiii, there's still only 4 tracks! Thanks, 8bit

  • @vintagestuffguy1998
    @vintagestuffguy1998 8 лет назад +221

    Have you ever considered doing a collaboration video with Techmoan ?

    • @snitzelll3710
      @snitzelll3710 8 лет назад +9

      plz make this real

    • @AzureOnyxscore
      @AzureOnyxscore 8 лет назад +5

      Hell yeah!

    • @8BitKeys
      @8BitKeys  8 лет назад +81

      I would love to... but I'm pretty sure he lives on the other side of the planet, so it wouldn't be anything in person.

    • @Noname304y2u2
      @Noname304y2u2 8 лет назад +8

      You are aware that they live on different continents?

    • @vintagestuffguy1998
      @vintagestuffguy1998 8 лет назад +27

      Of course - i mean something like an online collaboration - the internet makes stuff like that very possible, and through the magic of video editing, it could be really seamless and potentially fun

  • @jdavis.fw303
    @jdavis.fw303 5 лет назад

    YESSS!!! Casio PT-80 in the background! Those things are crazy. You take the back cover off and there are a couple spots , mostly one, where if you touch your thumb over a few connectors and change pressure slightly you can get the wildest circuit bending sounds ever. Wild distortion, glitchiness. Just sonic gold! Don't press too hard (all the time) or you will crack the board eventually but that takes some pressure and a long time.

  • @rogercook8277
    @rogercook8277 5 лет назад +7

    Oh how I remember coming up with different ways to record myself. I never bought Tascam or Fostex machines. I used regular cassettes recorders. Yeah. Dumping 4 tracks down to 1 track to free up 3 more tracks was nice, but when it came time to mix your project, you didn't have alot of leg room to work with. 4 instruments on one track? When you turn that particular track down, you were turning down all the instruments at the same time. Fast forward. Today I use Logic, and I have more tracks to work with then I actually need. Thank you Modern Technology.Lol

    • @gamepad3173
      @gamepad3173 3 года назад

      I've stuck with Tascam for as long as I could,for the first time in 9 years I'm grabbing a Yamaha MT4X since it uses figure 8 plugs instead of those bulky AC adapters.

  • @EnginerdBrian
    @EnginerdBrian 3 года назад

    I still have my Tascam Port-a-Studio. All the songs I wrote middle and highschool were recorded with that thing & it was so much fun. An amazing tool

  • @jessefillmore
    @jessefillmore 6 лет назад +13

    4 track cassette recorders have skyrocketed in price :( I'm glad I bought one when I did . Be cool if a company would make new ones .

    • @TheStuF
      @TheStuF 5 лет назад +1

      definitely, the company will probably charge too much but would still be nice.

    • @msh6865
      @msh6865 5 лет назад

      With the resurgence of Polaroid cameras, you know it's only a matter of time.

    • @madwax4771
      @madwax4771 4 года назад

      MSH68 They will probably be inferior in quality compared to the 414 & 424

    • @slarbiter
      @slarbiter 3 года назад

      Tascam is still making new ones that work and feel the same, they just write to an SD card instead of tape. Their 6 track is only like $150 which is pretty damn cool. I find it much more straightforward and effective than DAW and PC, especially when recording simple demos

    • @acepaul407
      @acepaul407 3 года назад

      I still have my 4 track Tascam. It was nice, but no way I would ever go back. The Portastudios that Tascam has come out with blows away the old stuff by a country mile.

  • @curlysam131
    @curlysam131 5 лет назад

    I love the video friend. I just recently got my dads old tascam 246 rebelted and working. It sure is a whole lot of fun.

  • @jonathanpullen7439
    @jonathanpullen7439 8 лет назад +5

    We've come a long way. I remember using a Tascam 4 track in the 90s - and before that, I used to bounce from tape to tape, adding one track on each bounce - analog generation loss would quickly cook my goose. These days, I'm recording 64 tracks wide on a PC ;-) www.sheer.us/stuff/2016/Sheer.HouseOfTheRisingSun.mp3 and www.sheer.us/stuff/2016/Sheer.HistoryOfModern.mp3 are two of my projects from this month - essentially the same process you show here, just mo tracks and betta sound.

    • @jonathanpullen7439
      @jonathanpullen7439 8 лет назад +3

      However, be it a 4 track tascam or the latest 256-track protools rig, there's no better toy for a musician than a multitrack deck..

  • @JoeyJoelBand
    @JoeyJoelBand 5 лет назад

    Wow, this brings a smile. I still have in original box, unused (ok three times(, Tascam 8 track and a Tascam 4 track cassette recorder. I went modern and was astounded at the quality of live recording using a two-track Olympus LS 10 digital recorder. When that was stolen (off a gig), I then bought a Tascam DR-07 mkII digital recorder. The LS10 seemed very slightly better, but the recording quality of the DR-07 mkII is still a linear PCM recorder and is a few dollars less. I recorded groups live and gave them a very respectable product. I took the recorded tracks and put it in a music program to sweeten the EQ, that was all which was needed.

  • @FatNorthernBigot
    @FatNorthernBigot 5 лет назад +8

    Fostex 8 track cassette was my go to. They doubled the channels by doubling the tape speed. £500 at the time, but the results were pretty good.
    The good thing about tape? It forced you to make decisions. Bouncing tracks down set recording levels in stone. Digital tracks are never finished, you keep tweaking and fiddling... Learning when to say its done is a skill in itself.

    • @customsongmaker
      @customsongmaker Год назад +1

      With 8 tracks on a cassette, you'll need to make sure loud tracks like bass and kick drum aren't right next to each other so they won't bleed over on that tiny strip of tape

    • @FatNorthernBigot
      @FatNorthernBigot Год назад +1

      @@customsongmaker That's sage advice. Tell that to the young lad that didn't know what to do with all those channels, thirty years ago. 😁

    • @customsongmaker
      @customsongmaker Год назад +1

      @@FatNorthernBigot ok I'll tell him, if you go back and tell another lad that he'll never finish his 4 connected concept albums to change the world

    • @FatNorthernBigot
      @FatNorthernBigot Год назад +1

      @@customsongmaker 🤣 Ah, the hubris of the young.

  • @flatgroundtv7097
    @flatgroundtv7097 Год назад

    This is a fun stuff to collect and playing around with it. Thank you for sharing.

  • @maysonstorm4956
    @maysonstorm4956 5 лет назад +3

    Ah. The good old days. I was young, inexperienced , and having sooo much fun.

  • @matrixmirage2699
    @matrixmirage2699 Год назад

    Oh Man! I remember the day my band mates and I got a 4-track. It completely changed everything about our song writing! Back then we had an electric guitar, Yamaha PSS 560, a microphone, a few guitar pedals, and the 4-track. Good times.

  • @kingtrance6826
    @kingtrance6826 6 лет назад +12

    Well the Beatles used to record this way. All the technology in the world will never replace talent and the ability to write a great 👍 song. We all keep trying...

    • @spacecase7504
      @spacecase7504 3 года назад

      well said

    • @joejones9520
      @joejones9520 17 дней назад

      the tech available has a profound effect on the music and songwriting, for ex. the songs and style of the beatles wouldve never worked out well before microphones and electric guitars, if theyd been born a generation or two earlier none of the four may have ever become musicians or songwriters

  • @noahschill1422
    @noahschill1422 5 лет назад +2

    as an audio engineer, this is the cutest and best way I’ve seen signal flow explained to an audience. Well done.

  • @catgirl_eva
    @catgirl_eva 8 лет назад +316

    2:27 There is no music. Only Zuul.

  • @admit2nothing
    @admit2nothing 5 лет назад

    So cool man! I'm actually about to order this exact model that I found someone selling. It seems good and simple enough enough because for what we want we prefer to not have a bunch of elaborate settings and controls and the fact that it's a 'lower end' model as far as these machines go is perfect. I read that there is not much tape hiss, which is something i actually want, but i'm sure making several generations of re-recording will do the trick!

  • @RazorBeamz
    @RazorBeamz 8 лет назад +40

    Techmoan is your British doppelganger.

    • @ChaseMC215
      @ChaseMC215 5 лет назад

      But he didn't start his youtube channel looking at mac computers unlike david

  • @darkkrenaissance42
    @darkkrenaissance42 6 месяцев назад

    I had one of these when i was 16, it was such a magical time and device to create with

  • @metafis2490
    @metafis2490 6 лет назад +3

    Sgt Pepper was 4 track..there's a deconstruction video on youtube of each individual track on the opening song. It's fascinating how they achieved such a good sound that even today doesn't sound that dated.

  • @ryremusic
    @ryremusic 3 года назад

    My friend had one of these in his garage, we'd smash out punk tunes for hours, I learnt so much using that little machine.

  • @WizardClipAudio
    @WizardClipAudio 5 лет назад +47

    I’m pretty sure that Metal refers to type 4 and type 2 were called Chromium.

    • @getstew
      @getstew 5 лет назад +7

      You are completely right. Dude needs to check his facts.

    • @TransCanadaPhil
      @TransCanadaPhil 5 лет назад +10

      yep I was about to say the same thing when watching this. Type 1 was standard cassette, Type 2 was Chromium Dioxide, There was a type 3 that was hardly used, and type 4 was metal.

    • @SamiJumppanen
      @SamiJumppanen 5 лет назад +1

      Yes. Type IV, at least what I used, was too hard for my Fostex X-30 to erase, so it left low frequency content of the previous recording. Only use type II if the device is made for type II.

    • @hakonsoreide
      @hakonsoreide 5 лет назад +5

      That's right. They're all made from metal, which is why one shouldn't mix up the terms; only type IV should be referred to as Metal.

    • @johnvice4066
      @johnvice4066 5 лет назад +2

      Just getting ready to comment that, but I figured someone else had made that observation. Having cut my recording teeth on a TASCAM cassette 4-track in the early 90s, I remember the difference.

  • @backcuetheoriginal
    @backcuetheoriginal 5 лет назад +1

    I really love your videos. You have old school tech mixed with sound recording mixed with keyboard playing. Great job! I have subscribed to your channel. Have a nice day! :)

  • @eclipse8978
    @eclipse8978 5 лет назад +188

    Dope! Sounds like a 80’s porno music...... back when porn had a story line

  • @RotterStudios
    @RotterStudios 4 года назад

    Subbed. I used all these. Fostex 8 track reel to reel Tasman 4 track machines and of course now Logic Pro. 4 track tape memories. Many band recordings!

  • @dee1380
    @dee1380 6 лет назад +5

    I've been reverting back to the old school way of recording to enhance creation

    • @countrabricksbuildcraze8916
      @countrabricksbuildcraze8916 5 лет назад

      Word same just I need a dubble tape deck an taskam blue. 4 track...or dubble tape deck system with mic input .

  • @meanderer06513
    @meanderer06513 6 лет назад

    I love Tascam 4 track machines! Still have one, about 3 feet away from me. I haven't played guitar in many years, but I have put my recordings into my computer to digitally edit them - quite impressed at the clarity of many of those antique recordings. :)

  • @supernovagamer929
    @supernovagamer929 5 лет назад +5

    Fun fact: weird al actually used a Portastudio 4 track recorder when making some of his first songs in a garage!

  • @spooktasticaparanormal
    @spooktasticaparanormal 3 года назад

    These are great little machines for quickly getting your ideas onto tape. I use the tascam 488mk1 8 track cassette recorder with all the many mixing controls ect. It also records at high speed for great sound quality. Thanks for sharing.

  • @someguynamedvictor
    @someguynamedvictor 5 лет назад +21

    Kids will never know how hard mixing and recording drums into one of these things was. 😂

    • @wizardito7741
      @wizardito7741 4 года назад +2

      Ok boomer

    • @someguynamedvictor
      @someguynamedvictor 4 года назад +3

      Wizardito Someone is triggered. Did you think of that “insult” yourself? You’re so original and edgy. Actually you’re just cringe in human form 😬

    • @spicysandwch7452
      @spicysandwch7452 4 года назад +2

      @@someguynamedvictor hey man you ok

    • @robvegas9354
      @robvegas9354 4 года назад +1

      @@someguynamedvictor my mates and i did so many demos on these back in the 90's - when you ping ponged the mix that was time for a beer while it bounced down for each pass... we found that recording one song usually involved about 20 beers for the group... good times!!!

    • @gamepad3173
      @gamepad3173 3 года назад +2

      @@wizardito7741 Okay Zoomer.

  • @robaxl3088
    @robaxl3088 4 года назад +1

    I used one of these back in the day...my friend had one and HE HAD MONEY I couldn't afford it but man this video brought back memories!!

  • @jean-pierremartineau4136
    @jean-pierremartineau4136 5 лет назад +3

    The Maxell XLII is not a metal (type IV) tape. It's a type II tape, sometimes refered to as CrO2, or Chrome tape. On another note, I had no idea Tascam made a model as basic as this.
    You can record up to 10 parts on a 4 track using a technique called bouncing:
    - Record parts 1, 2 and 3 on tracks 1, 2, and 3
    - Record part 4, plus a mixdown of tracks 1, 2, and 3, onto track 4. All your 4 parts are now on track 4, freeing up tracks 1, 2, and 3.
    - Record parts 5 and 6 on tracks 1 and 2.
    - Record part 7 plus a mixdown of tracks 1 and 2 onto track 3. Parts 5, 6 and 7 are now on track 3.
    - Record part 8 on track 1.
    - Record part 9 plus the content of track 1 onto track 2. Parts 8 and 9 are now on track 2.
    - Record part 10 on track 1.
    You end up with Parts 1 to 4 on track 4, parts 5 through 7 on track 3, parts 8 and 9 on track 2 and part 10 on track 1.
    Voilà.

  • @davidvasquez4380
    @davidvasquez4380 5 лет назад +2

    Boy that bring back fun memories . Thanks for Posting!