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DIY Solar Power with Will Prowse @3:15 Can this instead feed into an RV breaker panel using a dedicated breaker to then power the various factory outlets throughout the RV?
And the fact that he KNOWS what he’s talking about lol So many RUclipsrs make videos and do not know what they are talking about. In fact they know just enough to be dangerous lol
If I got nothing else from this video, I loved how you explained how to equalize the batteries. But, of course, there was so much more. Thank you. This is wonderfully informative. I'm so glad that you've recovered your health to do all this for us.
Will, don't worry about producing shorter videos. What I (maybe others too) want is comprehensive "how to" videos that hold my hand through the whole set up of a unit like this. I appreciate that this is more of a review video. You do an excellent job of explaining the details. Don't compromise the quality of your videos just to make them shorter. As always, thanks for sharing. Keep up the good work!
Great job Will. Your style of presenting is bob on (good in UK terms!) We don't need fancy intros, music, drone footage...just to the point. Keep it up.
Being able to switch to grid power when the inverter is over loaded is such an excellent feature. Perfect for a very small system that can supplement grid power, offer modest emergence back up, and is pretty cheap to get going.
I'm looking into building my system for the first time: are there any disadvantages of buying an all-in-one system when compared to a self-built modular system? (I've yet to buy my first component and have been researching the past 2 weeks)
All those features with an automatic transfer switch makes this unit very attractive. It is not surprising that with all those components in one box there is a fan noise issue. Thank you for taking the time to review it, very informative.
I was looking at buying one of these for a 48V off grid solar setup. I couldn't find a decent review anywhere else. But this was exactly what I wanted. Very appreciated.
Yes the beeping is quite loud, best to disable them in the settings as you have already shown. I have a 24V model which can do up to 3000W. The fans are loud, I agree. If I am running under 150W however, the fans are not running at all. And yes, the transfer switch is a HUGE positive, it saves your batteries, it saves all the mucking around. I have had mine now for over 1 year and it still works flawlessly. NOTE: if you want to keep records of all your power in, power out, grid data etc, you must have it connected to a computer 24x7 and have the Watchpower software running as well.
Should be able to connect a raspberry pi unit to the mppt to web log for your records (runs off 5v 2.5a micro usb for power). They’re inexpensive & have built-in WiFi / Bluetooth for connectivity.
Is there any advantages of buying an all-in-one system instead of building your own modular system? Any disadvantages? (sorry, I'm a complete beginner and about to buy my first few parts and build my first system in the next few weeks)
Adam - Is that 24V unit installed in a vehicle or is it stationary? I am curious how they hold up to the vibrations and shocks of a mobile environment.
Mate, LOVING your videos. I started watching your videos almost 3 months ago and in that time, have now built my own 500w / 24v full off grid solar system. This is all setup on my good old Transit Campervan haha. I went with a Rover 40a MPPT Controller out to 2 x 12v 148ah AGM Batteries [series] out to my 24v 1200w/2400w Giandel pure sine wave inverter. Even on a cloudy day, I can charge my laptop, phone, tablet, led lights etc and still maintain a healthy rate of charge. ALL thanks to mother nature ;) Seriously, a HUGE thanks to you mate because much of what I have learnt and created myself, has been from info I gained in these vids mate. Maybe one day, I'll throw a quick vid up of my setup for yourself and anyone that may be interested. Keep up the good mate. Dave
Hi Will, I've been using a higher power version of this - MPP 5048 MG for a few months now, I use a 2kw solar array & a bank of 48v flooded lead acid batteries (21kw) I have mine in the outer garage & it is wired to power the entire house, during the day it can run up to a max of 5kw output, I purchased a 2nd unit with a parallel kit & have yet to install it to give a potential 10kw output supply, I have come to the conclusion that my flooded lead acid battery setup just does not have the potential power density that a lithium iron setup could provide, so it limits the amount of time my setup can provide off grid use here in the UK, the fan noise is a small price for component longivity at the end of the day, I removed and turned my fans around to force cool air upwards to increase thermal efficiency & it and it made a big difference to operational temps, nice video by the way.
Hello lasidora! I just bought HYB 5032M inverter. The box and layout exactly like on the video . Problem is that I can't find a maximum wattage for solar array for it. On the label for solar charge: Amp. 80 Operation voltage: 60 - 115v OCV. 145v In your manual what is the maximum wattage ? Many thanks.
Will, I just bought one and it has a mounting hole at the bottom in the center. Not the greatest but it’s something. I’ll be mounting it with 3 screws (1 at the bottom). Maybe they heard your suggestion 😉.
This is awesome!!! I have your book and will be building my solar system in a few months. I'm good with following diagrams and putting all the pieces together BUT for me, calculating usage needs in an issue. My brain shuts off when I have to look at all my devices and find watts, amps, volts and mega-jizzy-fuzz fuses. Reverting to 3 year old tantrum on floor.....
Yeah, no kidding, especially when you consider duty cycle, its not likely everything will be on at the same time like AC and a refrigerator, which makes it near impossible to calculate. Im considering running my (approximately) 3,800 watt AC on a separate 5,000 watt inverter and switch over to grid power for the 1/2 second startup surge of nearly 100 amps at 230 volts ac.
Guys from my generation thought we were cool tech savvy being able to teach our parents how to use a Betamax video recorder.......let me just say, thank you for your videos.
Spent a couple hours this morning on your classes. I am gona update my house for more solar and auto swiching for independence plus lower PG&E bills. Have basic work system in place, and inspired to improve including w lithium battery. Thanks for such great classroom material. I think you are being clear plus very inspiring.
Great video. Yes, the all-in-one advantages are massive for the vandweller. Many vans pack along a small inverter generator to power heavy AC loads (tools and appliances) and charge batteries in extended cloudy weather. This system handles everything they need! The price is right, too!
I love your videos but I really wish you would video how to fully install a van with lights/appliances/wall power connection!! This would help out a beginner so much more! No one on RUclips had done this!!
Will, so glad you present this integrated option. These units are very reasonably priced and have some really nice features. For the mounting problem it looks like under the bottom access cover there is a hole in the center in a circular boss that looks like a screw could be put thru. The other option is to drill some holes . On the fans noise issue I would try upgrading the fans to a higher quality version. This would make a good video showing change in noise level and amp draw.
I would much rather buy higher quality individual components but all this is very good to know, I may just decide to go with this all in one, thank you Will
Hello Will. I’m new to the solar scene, but watching your videos has taught me tons just so I can get a start. After watching this video I’m going to go with the mpp 24vdc 110ac 2424. I’m already getting my lithium batteries to build per one if your tutorials. I must admit I did my own separate research and your spot on with the MPP. TONS OF GREAT REVIES. I come from an electrical background, and maybe some one here can help me. I have a uhaul box truck I’m building into an RV. I’m now on disability, and want to be able to help the homeless as I travel, and to have a place that I can afford to live on my income. My thing is I’m installing three 265w solar panels on top, and will be starting out with a 100ah 24v battery setup to be expanded as I can afford it to 300ah. I’m in the northwest so we don’t have as much sunshine as I’d like. To supplement lack of sunshine I did get a renogy 40A DC TO DC charger to run off of my upgraded 130A alternator. My main question is combining the alternator charging in place of the solar when there isn’t any sun. I’ll have the remote hookup to the renogy for when the engine is running, but it looks like I need to isolate the charging output Incase there is sunshine so as to not back-feed into the MPP. Is this a correct assumption. In thinking of adding a relay that cuts the power from the charger out put and switches to the renogy. Any suggestions would be great. Btw thank you for all you do. Your a rock star in my book
Love the vid, but couple of things. I wouldn't mount these in a cupboard, the fans blow down and the INTAKE vents are at the top. Also open it up and you will find that the airflow inside poor. With the no load power draw, this turns into a heater. I would also love to know if they disconnect or at least allow for disconnection in the event of a live-earth fault with mains AC input connected.
Some times you can mount fan's with a grommet between the fan and the base. This removes the vibration drommatikly lowering the noise. Some computer fan's have a rubber piece only holding them in.
I think your review is spot-on. Your experience parallels mine almost exactly. I too especially like the all-in-one nature of the unit and the seamless switching from grid to battery to solar and how it will combine the sources to make the needed power. The downsides match my experience as well. Good job.
Very nice. I know that many people who go off grid rely on inverters. Changing as many items as possible to DC current reduces your need for the inverters, thereby reducing the power consumption. In some cases you can eliminate the inverter altogether.
Can I just say that YOU KICK ASS. I have watched so many of your videos and learned so much, and your website has such valuable information. (I am currently looking into your suggestions for energy efficient A/C and minisplit systems.) But all in all, you explain things very well and you provide extremely valuable information. THANK YOU!!
Hi Will, so this does simplify a lot and for cheap. One solution for those fans might be to replace them with quiet/lower rpm fans. It will prob require a mod as the quieter fans are generally a little larger to get the same cfm.
I'm sure these units are rebadged and sold by many other companies with the same hardware & software. I use the EASUN POWER Solar Inverter 3KVA 24V model from China, Costs about £220 (275 US) inc p&p Great little units. Its been in use 24/7 in the shed running at 500w - 600w for over a year, Well pleased. Nice video Will. Great information for the newcomers to the subject. Thanks
Yep, I've heard of the Axpert model, which is resold and rebranded here in SA as a Mecer product. Just a month ago I installed one of these, the 3000W model as a 24V system, with 4 x 12V 100Ah AGM batteries. The settings seem identical e.g. 18 for beeps, etc. Works really well.
Great information , I’m a overlander and very new to solar, I’m getting rid of my AAA powered baseball cap light and learning about some real power options ! You burned through a ton of specs, really fast all with different options, so I’m buying your book.
Gotta watch out for airflow though. Those fans definitely have a motor whine (which would be fixed), but at least some of that noise is the air bouncing around as it passes through the case. No way to really do anything about that without risking an over-temperature situation.
Noctua fans are the shit. When noise is an issue I build simple noise cancelling baffles . Basically parallel walls make the sound waves bounce back and forth generating standing waves. When you have 180' out of phase things get quiet equivelent to stuffing a pillow over a girlfriend's mouth when they talk to much lol. That -10db attenuation is life
The two models I have the MG5048 has holes top and inside bottom and weighs about 35 lbs. The larger one I have is an LV5048 hybrid and weighs about 70 ins and comes with a mounting plate that could hold 4 bolts but you could easily mount more and once unit is slid onto the plate there are 2 brackets underneath for 2 more bolts or screws so a total of 6 attachment points. I would think the smaller units say 2400 watts or so might only need 2 bolts and if you actually bolt them not screw to a mounting board then mount it with however many attachments you want it would be plenty strong but it does seem like they would have an anchor point at bottom to keep it flush to mount.
Replace fans with ball-bearing "silent" computer fans. Also, add a 2000W pure sine wave inverter for around $300 that you switch on to use and off when not in use for power tools and/or induction cooktop. The 800W internal inverter is more than adequate for charging you electronic devices, keeping some sort of refrigerator going, and a home server/media center assuming adequate battery capacity.
Hi Will, I was waiting for these hybrid inverter videos! I really appreciate all the info you decode for the rest of us, newcomers. I have been searching for more info about these MPPsolar units (Voltronic like the Axpert and so on) and what I have found is that they don't work that well with LiFePo4 cells. Here's what can be read at AEVA forums: "it doesn't charge LiFePO4 batteries properly, and also doesn't support a BMS properly. Most of this would be solved if we were able to change some charge parameters on the fly. For example, to stop it charging when a single cell starts getting too high in voltage, we could increase the Bulk and Float voltage settings. Hopefully, we can get the last Cell Management Unit (CMU) to send a short command to the unit to effect the change." It seems that they were able to create an unofficial firmware with support for LiFePo4 for the 48v inverters, but they couldn't do the same with lower voltage versions. But I need a 24v system for my van! It would be amazing if you could try using the Sinology cells with the 24v unit to test what they say! I was so hyped up about building a system THAT simple and now I'm so bummed for not being able to bring that to life.
What in the world?! These guys don't know what they are talking about. Just use a BMS, set upper limit voltage and low voltage disconnect, and it will work great. To have individual cell monitoring you need a BMS anyways. Of course these units can't do that but it doesn't matter. Wow I would stay away from that forum. That's really silly. That's like saying a inverter doesn't work well with LiFePO4 because it can't monitor individual cell voltages LOL yeah that's just silly. I'm using it with a raw pack LiFePO4 right now.
I notice MPPSolar have MPPT batteryless invertercharger - PIP5048GK. Run devices entirely off solar PV. Maybe you could get one to review!! Keep up the good work.
Will, you could swap the fans for quieter ones, or add a resistor to them to slow them down a bit if temperature isn't a problem. Locking away in a closet might not be good if it isn't ventilated to allow cold air in!
Yes agreed!! Future video comimg haha. I am having trouble finding a replacement fan though. It's driving me nuts.cant be that hard, will find one soon
@@WillProwse I think a good guide to the flow rate is the watt rating on the fans. They sound a bit beefier than usual PC coolers. If all else fails, you could mount the fans elsewhere and pipe the air in to the unit with dryer hose!
This seems like a perfect solution if you have a freezer in a shed or in the garage and want to eliminate the draw from the grid. You can run an extension cord to it as a backup, but for the majority of the load, it pulls from the solar panels and batteries.
i use a similar unit, the fan problem can be solved quite easy, open the unit take the fans out and replace with high-quality fans like silentwing from Bequiet, also switched the blow direction, so the blow upwards (thermodynamics ftw) instead of downwards.
Wow another great video fromb you. Keep then coming! I bought your book from Amazon. I love it. It is very interesting as well as entertaining. I can also use the adjectives,; concise, well written, educational. It is a masterpiece. Thanks Will!
Not sure about this model but the newer ones have a screw hole on one of the feet on the backside. I took all the components out and mounted the housing with the two mounting holes at the top and the screw hole on the bottom foot, then put all the components back in. Now it’s nice and secure in the r.v
My concern would be robustness and long term reliability. I have a victron system which has worked flawlessly for over ten years now and has been subjected to several overload conditions and a couple of short circuit conditions with no problems. In my experience, you buy cheap, you buy twice.
okay, ( looking over my list) Will said to get an MPPT controller, some solar panels and a couple of shunts and circuit breaker and proper gauge wire, inverter, etc. (turns on this video). WAIT! What?!?!? (reaction) Honeyyyyy! send everything back! but keep the solar panels and lithium batteries!
You do realize that 2000 Watts from a 12 volt source is ~185 Amps. That's a heck of a lot of current to take out of a single 12 volt battery. If you need more batteries to "share" the load, you might as well go to a 24v string and cut your current in half.
I asked the ebay seller, and he said that the remote wasn't compatible with the 1012LV-MS model (the smaller model). Do you own that model? Did you get the remote working with that model?
Fan sound phobia alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL great video. I am learning a lot and your videos are great......I sleep with a fan and run a room UV-C filtration unit a lot....so I guess I do not see the problem with fan noise. I would like to see how much the fans/heat output affect the space temp.
I am confused... you have two videos that look like the same model with one being so negative and the other was so positive??? (talked bit to soon, everything was loud and clear at the end) Great info! Thanks!
No, this one is critical and does testing. The other one covers installation with the implication that the person knows the downsides. Everything available has pros and cons.
Yep, I have been looking at these Hybrid Inverters. In Thailand, I will use it to power a 24K BTU SPLIT AC UNIT. I can get the Lifepo4s pretty cheaply. They even make one where you don't need batteries! If you have enough solar to power your loads, you are good to go.
Testing an MPP solar inverter charger on the computer, and website behind app is showing Victron products :) There is a massive thread about these on the AEVA forums - it goes to great lengths discussing the 48V model, but many of the suggestions also work on the 24V and 12V models. They've even made a custom firmware for the 48V models, allowing them to overload for a short period before going over to grid power, and in the true aussie sense, they've called it KettleKomp, short for Kettle Compensation, allowing a heavy load to run for a short period without going to grid :)
There seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding here. The original 12v unit was 800W. The new model is a 1000w. They also just released the 1200W unit but still sell the 1000w unit. The 800W unit has been discontinued and is no longer for sale.
Please check inside the box there is a small L bracket that help to hold the cables and also help fix from the bottom,there a hole at the bottom of the inverter where the solar cable is connected
Apart from confirming the idle wattage to be relatively close to the one shown on the manual, I wish you load tested it for efficiency across loads from 200w to 2400w in steps of 300w, then confirm what efficiency you are getting from it.
I like the idea of "all-in-one" units, but if anything goes out, your whole system is out. I had an AIMS 12v 2000W unit with inverter, grid charger and transfer switch. The inverter went out under warranty, and I had to send the whole thing off and it took I think three weeks or so to get it back. Right after the warranty went out, the transfer switch started acting up. With a modular setup, you can at leat put a cheaper backup in place (if you have one) until you can fix/replace that one unit. I still like the idea of an all-in-one, and that unit looks pretty nice, but after the issues with the AIMS, I'm a bit hesitant. Nice video though. Always appreciate your honest reviews.
Yes I totally agree. And these units can be paralleled, so buy two for redundancy. They are dirt cheap. Nearly the same cost as similar sized inverter alone. And powerwall nmc guys have used these units for 5+ years 24/7. So I'm sticking to this from now on. It's just easier. But yeah, modular is better in that regard. Absolutely.
Also have to realize that all of them will be all in one units one day. Having separate products for things as simple as a transfer switch is just plain silly. And mppt is easy to build now. Each individual circuit board has multiple modules in itself too. So if someone can make a reliable one, which isn't that hard, then you are fine. And I have heard bad things about aims inverters. Maybe buy a xantrex or victron so you won't have problems.
@@WillProwse The aims unit had good reviews when I bought it in early 2016, but now, while not bad, not so great. When you say the units can be paralleled, is that just to the batteries, or can the inverter outputs be combined too? I'm thinking not, but that would be nice.
I could be biased having arrived at your channel through van conversion but it surprises me you are so 24v focussed given the majority of your ‘market’ is 12v. This product seems awesome but as you say a 1500-2000W model would be perfect AND IN 12V!
The cost analysis between the MPP and modular is a no brainer. Have you considered breaking open the MPP and converting it to modular...(maybe there are multiple boards and connected by harnesses that could be extented) that is, if possible, replacing the fans with heat sinks (or apply some big heat sinks and a quiet fan system too as a mod...) You are going to void your warranty but these things are not exactly going to break the bank and looks like that would be a great project
Exactly what I'm looking for. Only one question, Sorry if it's a dumb one but i'm really learning. If I choose the 24V system how do I connect that to feed a 12V system in an RV.
In the USA where unfortunately you have 110/120V AC, these 12V/24V systems are ok, but we have 220V/240V, so I prefer 48V and up. It basically means you can use thinner wires on the batteries and there's less overall current flowing around.
Good. But suggest if you parallel two 12V battery Would you consider to add a high power resistor between them. Just prevent short circuit. Yes but the current only 17A. It should be fine.
Is there another choice rather than MPP solar I followed you before in purchase one and they sent me one made for the Europe market unusable for me, I am a complete novice to this, but you made it look so easy and I’m sure it would be if I had bought the right panels ( they should have warned me ,they did later, ) I’m disappointed with them. I’m stuck with this one. So I’ll buy another brand. If you can. I believe you are very knowledgeable in this and I trust you. It’s there’s and my fault. Anything you can advise will be appreciated.
lol, had exactly the same issues with connecting to the pc. after a few days of fiddling, i finally got it right.. the fans are loud as hell, thats the downside. you can switch off the beeping noise.. I had no quality issues at all. i have the 5kw 48v version
You're right about the fans, they do drive me nuts. I put it in a closet behind a door which helps a lot. Do you have a link to the web site to set the parameters and configure this unit properly. The manual is definitely not adequate. thanks.
To prevent stranded wire from fraying when inserting into a compression connection, either A) tin the wires with solder or B) crimp on a wire pin (preferably solid) terminal.
Do you think you'll ever make a video about the generator starting feature? I think these units are able to remote start certain generators rather than transferring to grid.
for future idea for people wanting one of these systems you could probably purchase noctua fans to quite down the fans you would just have to open it up and change the stock fans
I use this kind of system since 2019 brand name Easun. Look like very similar. Same mounting problem, but i found that mine had 3rd screw hole near AC input terminal (inside) mine also had bluetooth, i can manage via my phone-bluetooth connection. Yes there is 2 fan that only works when sensor detect high temperature on the system. The 2nd fan will work when battery power are being used. There is also priority power-timer setting that we can set, PV daily output, month or yearly output. This system will autopilot us after we input all necsessary setting. I am using now on year 2, 3kW 24V system. Auto switching between solar,utility and battery is very interesting... btw i need to clean dust regularly to make sure the cooling system and air flow not interupted.
It's not silly. I have MPP LV2424 and i have the same problem the fans are horrendous. These units can be problematic. For some reason I may have a bad one and am working with support (slowly) now. Their technical support is definitely slow. With no load aside from the inverter itself and two 12 volt 100 amp batteries, the system drains the batteries in minutes and dies. Definitely something defective there. As easy as these are to work with, they have their problems. I've definitely been bitten by quality control issues. Good video. I wish I'd have found it before I purchased. It definitely would have opened my eyes to a few things.... I'd love to know what settings you changed.
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Hey Will, Im about to buy 400Ah of LiFePo4 but I need a way to quick charge them. Do you know of any 200A AC chargers out there?
What about the 1212 model pip ?????
Wouldn't that be the perfect size then if the 812 is too small at 800 w
1212 is 1.2kw @12 v. :)
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@3:15 Can this instead feed into an RV breaker panel using a dedicated breaker to then power the various factory outlets throughout the RV?
@@promiscuouscrab4040 yes you can do that
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What about the 1212 model ????? If the 812 is too small they have the 1.2kw model
That genuine excitement you have about solar is a big reason i watch a lot of your videos.
I'm with you....great to see someone so enthusiastic about what they're doing
And the fact that he KNOWS what he’s talking about lol
So many RUclipsrs make videos and do not know what they are talking about. In fact they know just enough to be dangerous lol
Agreed! I feel completely empathetic with his excitement. I have felt many times like that. Solar power brings out the youth in him... & and me too.
@@prepperjonpnw6482 my
2 years in he still has it! Awesome attitude and curiosity he has!
If I got nothing else from this video, I loved how you explained how to equalize the batteries.
But, of course, there was so much more. Thank you. This is wonderfully informative. I'm so glad that you've recovered your health to do all this for us.
Will, don't worry about producing shorter videos. What I (maybe others too) want is comprehensive "how to" videos that hold my hand through the whole set up of a unit like this. I appreciate that this is more of a review video. You do an excellent job of explaining the details. Don't compromise the quality of your videos just to make them shorter.
As always, thanks for sharing. Keep up the good work!
Great job Will. Your style of presenting is bob on (good in UK terms!) We don't need fancy intros, music, drone footage...just to the point. Keep it up.
Absolutely. Will's to the point, simplicity, honest bluntness = great informative videos.
Being able to switch to grid power when the inverter is over loaded is such an excellent feature. Perfect for a very small system that can supplement grid power, offer modest emergence back up, and is pretty cheap to get going.
I have used the 800VA,the 3000VA PIP2424,and now using tha PIP3024GK, which is off grid and it works flawlessly. Thanks for the review.
I'm looking into building my system for the first time: are there any disadvantages of buying an all-in-one system when compared to a self-built modular system? (I've yet to buy my first component and have been researching the past 2 weeks)
What does the acronym "PIP" mean?
All those features with an automatic transfer switch makes this unit very attractive. It is not surprising that with all those components in one box there is a fan noise issue. Thank you for taking the time to review it, very informative.
I was looking at buying one of these for a 48V off grid solar setup. I couldn't find a decent review anywhere else. But this was exactly what I wanted. Very appreciated.
Yes the beeping is quite loud, best to disable them in the settings as you have already shown. I have a 24V model which can do up to 3000W. The fans are loud, I agree. If I am running under 150W however, the fans are not running at all. And yes, the transfer switch is a HUGE positive, it saves your batteries, it saves all the mucking around. I have had mine now for over 1 year and it still works flawlessly. NOTE: if you want to keep records of all your power in, power out, grid data etc, you must have it connected to a computer 24x7 and have the Watchpower software running as well.
Should be able to connect a raspberry pi unit to the mppt to web log for your records (runs off 5v 2.5a micro usb for power). They’re inexpensive & have built-in WiFi / Bluetooth for connectivity.
Is there any advantages of buying an all-in-one system instead of building your own modular system? Any disadvantages?
(sorry, I'm a complete beginner and about to buy my first few parts and build my first system in the next few weeks)
Adam - Is that 24V unit installed in a vehicle or is it stationary? I am curious how they hold up to the vibrations and shocks of a mobile environment.
I love when Will gets annoyed or pissed off! I can’t help but laugh.... He just cracks me up!
We all should give him noisy fans for the holidays
@@shadowstorm7 Or TYPE IN CAPS SO IT WILL BE REALLY LOUD?
Mate, LOVING your videos.
I started watching your videos almost 3 months ago and in that time, have now built my own 500w / 24v full off grid solar system. This is all setup on my good old Transit Campervan haha.
I went with a Rover 40a MPPT Controller out to 2 x 12v 148ah AGM Batteries [series] out to my 24v 1200w/2400w Giandel pure sine wave inverter.
Even on a cloudy day, I can charge my laptop, phone, tablet, led lights etc and still maintain a healthy rate of charge. ALL thanks to mother nature ;)
Seriously, a HUGE thanks to you mate because much of what I have learnt and created myself, has been from info I gained in these vids mate.
Maybe one day, I'll throw a quick vid up of my setup for yourself and anyone that may be interested.
Keep up the good mate.
Dave
lol I had a similar unit in my house, turned it on and the fans drove me crazy, I chased it to the garage. Now I am ok!
Hi Will, I've been using a higher power version of this - MPP 5048 MG for a few months now, I use a 2kw solar array & a bank of 48v flooded lead acid batteries (21kw) I have mine in the outer garage & it is wired to power the entire house, during the day it can run up to a max of 5kw output, I purchased a 2nd unit with a parallel kit & have yet to install it to give a potential 10kw output supply, I have come to the conclusion that my flooded lead acid battery setup just does not have the potential power density that a lithium iron setup could provide, so it limits the amount of time my setup can provide off grid use here in the UK, the fan noise is a small price for component longivity at the end of the day, I removed and turned my fans around to force cool air upwards to increase thermal efficiency & it and it made a big difference to operational temps, nice video by the way.
John, consider a used electric auto battery similar to “Going Off Grid”s doing. I spent $4,000 for 33kw. Just a consideration.
Hello lasidora!
I just bought HYB 5032M inverter.
The box and layout exactly like on the video . Problem is that I can't find a maximum wattage for solar array for it.
On the label for solar charge:
Amp. 80
Operation voltage: 60 - 115v
OCV. 145v
In your manual what is the maximum wattage ?
Many thanks.
Will, I just bought one and it has a mounting hole at the bottom in the center. Not the greatest but it’s something. I’ll be mounting it with 3 screws (1 at the bottom). Maybe they heard your suggestion 😉.
This is awesome!!! I have your book and will be building my solar system in a few months. I'm good with following diagrams and putting all the pieces together BUT for me, calculating usage needs in an issue. My brain shuts off when I have to look at all my devices and find watts, amps, volts and mega-jizzy-fuzz fuses. Reverting to 3 year old tantrum on floor.....
You got this!
Have you seen Will's RUclips video. "Electricity explained: Volts, Watts and Amps"? I found it quite helpful and clearly explained.
Yeah, no kidding, especially when you consider duty cycle, its not likely everything will be on at the same time like AC and a refrigerator, which makes it near impossible to calculate. Im considering running my (approximately) 3,800 watt AC on a separate 5,000 watt inverter and switch over to grid power for the 1/2 second startup surge of nearly 100 amps at 230 volts ac.
Will's wrist-rest for his keyboard speaks volumes about his character. Really enjoying your videos, Will. Thank you!
Guys from my generation thought we were cool tech savvy being able to teach our parents how to use a Betamax video recorder.......let me just say, thank you for your videos.
Betamax recorder... LOL It brings me back old memories. It tells how old you are, we're from the same time... LOL Time goes fast, doesn't it?
Spent a couple hours this morning on your classes. I am gona update my house for more solar and auto swiching for independence plus lower PG&E bills. Have basic work system in place, and inspired to improve including w lithium battery. Thanks for such great classroom material. I think you are being clear plus very inspiring.
Great video. Yes, the all-in-one advantages are massive for the vandweller. Many vans pack along a small inverter generator to power heavy AC loads (tools and appliances) and charge batteries in extended cloudy weather. This system handles everything they need! The price is right, too!
I love your videos but I really wish you would video how to fully install a van with lights/appliances/wall power connection!! This would help out a beginner so much more! No one on RUclips had done this!!
There are tons of videos on YT that have done this. Just search Vanlife or van build and you'll spend 30 days straight watching videos.
Will, so glad you present this integrated option. These units are very reasonably priced and have some really nice features. For the mounting problem it looks like under the bottom access cover there is a hole in the center in a circular boss that looks like a screw could be put thru. The other option is to drill some holes . On the fans noise issue I would try upgrading the fans to a higher quality version. This would make a good video showing change in noise level and amp draw.
Bottom mounting hole confirmed, it shown on page 5 of the manual.
I am going to mount that monster in my military vehicle that I use for use as a first responder, which is 24V also. Thanks for the great videos!
I would much rather buy higher quality individual components but all this is very good to know, I may just decide to go with this all in one, thank you Will
Hello Will. I’m new to the solar scene, but watching your videos has taught me tons just so I can get a start. After watching this video I’m going to go with the mpp 24vdc 110ac 2424. I’m already getting my lithium batteries to build per one if your tutorials.
I must admit I did my own separate research and your spot on with the MPP. TONS OF GREAT REVIES.
I come from an electrical background, and maybe some one here can help me.
I have a uhaul box truck I’m building into an RV. I’m now on disability, and want to be able to help the homeless as I travel, and to have a place that I can afford to live on my income.
My thing is I’m installing three 265w solar panels on top, and will be starting out with a 100ah 24v battery setup to be expanded as I can afford it to 300ah. I’m in the northwest so we don’t have as much sunshine as I’d like.
To supplement lack of sunshine I did get a renogy 40A DC TO DC charger to run off of my upgraded 130A alternator.
My main question is combining the alternator charging in place of the solar when there isn’t any sun. I’ll have the remote hookup to the renogy for when the engine is running, but it looks like I need to isolate the charging output Incase there is sunshine so as to not back-feed into the MPP. Is this a correct assumption. In thinking of adding a relay that cuts the power from the charger out put and switches to the renogy. Any suggestions would be great.
Btw thank you for all you do. Your a rock star in my book
Hey man, how did it all go?
This is great. On the link you provided it states that either the grid or motorized generator can be your backup. Thanks Will, another great video👍
This system will pay for itself. I live in Arizona. Summer bills run at 400 a month. A/C on all day.
Love the vid, but couple of things. I wouldn't mount these in a cupboard, the fans blow down and the INTAKE vents are at the top. Also open it up and you will find that the airflow inside poor. With the no load power draw, this turns into a heater. I would also love to know if they disconnect or at least allow for disconnection in the event of a live-earth fault with mains AC input connected.
Some times you can mount fan's with a grommet between the fan and the base. This removes the vibration drommatikly lowering the noise. Some computer fan's have a rubber piece only holding them in.
That would be cool for a backup power system for a circuit with lights and fridge and stuff
Exactly what I'm doing! One off grid room with small fridge.
I think your review is spot-on. Your experience parallels mine almost exactly. I too especially like the all-in-one nature of the unit and the seamless switching from grid to battery to solar and how it will combine the sources to make the needed power. The downsides match my experience as well. Good job.
Great presentation with an exceptionally clear and easy to understand voice.
Very nice.
I know that many people who go off grid rely on inverters.
Changing as many items as possible to DC current reduces your need for the inverters, thereby reducing the power consumption.
In some cases you can eliminate the inverter altogether.
Can I just say that YOU KICK ASS. I have watched so many of your videos and learned so much, and your website has such valuable information. (I am currently looking into your suggestions for energy efficient A/C and minisplit systems.) But all in all, you explain things very well and you provide extremely valuable information. THANK YOU!!
Excellent, unbiased information. Exactly why you have found success. Thanks, Will!
Hi Will, so this does simplify a lot and for cheap. One solution for those fans might be to replace them with quiet/lower rpm fans. It will prob require a mod as the quieter fans are generally a little larger to get the same cfm.
I'm sure these units are rebadged and sold by many other companies with the same hardware & software.
I use the EASUN POWER Solar Inverter 3KVA 24V model from China, Costs about £220 (275 US) inc p&p
Great little units. Its been in use 24/7 in the shed running at 500w - 600w for over a year, Well pleased.
Nice video Will. Great information for the newcomers to the subject. Thanks
They are - they're rebadged by heaps of companies. Theres also copied of the genuine MPP product, which won't accept genuine firmware updates.
Yep, I've heard of the Axpert model, which is resold and rebranded here in SA as a Mecer product. Just a month ago I installed one of these, the 3000W model as a 24V system, with 4 x 12V 100Ah AGM batteries. The settings seem identical e.g. 18 for beeps, etc. Works really well.
Great information , I’m a overlander and very new to solar, I’m getting rid of my AAA powered baseball cap light and learning about some real power options ! You burned through a ton of specs, really fast all with different options, so I’m buying your book.
How long have you had your ESUN unit? any problems?
What I learned watching this video. Don't call Will at 5 AM.
Haha!
What I learned is that Will is not a fan of fans.
@@jimsmij That reply nearly "blew" me over.
LOL
I would change the fans out for Noctua fans or something similar. Seems like a great product though for sure!
Gotta watch out for airflow though. Those fans definitely have a motor whine (which would be fixed), but at least some of that noise is the air bouncing around as it passes through the case. No way to really do anything about that without risking an over-temperature situation.
Noctua fans are the shit. When noise is an issue I build simple noise cancelling baffles . Basically parallel walls make the sound waves bounce back and forth generating standing waves. When you have 180' out of phase things get quiet equivelent to stuffing a pillow over a girlfriend's mouth when they talk to much lol. That -10db attenuation is life
@@abusiveben relevant username
In the manual, there is a 3rd screw to hang the box with the hole inside the bottom cover. Should be to the left of the positive battery terminal.
The mounting hole for the bottom is on the inside back. You have to remove the bottom access plate where you add inputs etc to get to it.
Correct, but smaller units only have top holes
The two models I have the MG5048 has holes top and inside bottom and weighs about 35 lbs. The larger one I have is an LV5048 hybrid and weighs about 70 ins and comes with a mounting plate that could hold 4 bolts but you could easily mount more and once unit is slid onto the plate there are 2 brackets underneath for 2 more bolts or screws so a total of 6 attachment points. I would think the smaller units say 2400 watts or so might only need 2 bolts and if you actually bolt them not screw to a mounting board then mount it with however many attachments you want it would be plenty strong but it does seem like they would have an anchor point at bottom to keep it flush to mount.
Replace fans with ball-bearing "silent" computer fans.
Also, add a 2000W pure sine wave inverter for around $300 that you switch on to use and off when not in use for power tools and/or induction cooktop. The 800W internal inverter is more than adequate for charging you electronic devices, keeping some sort of refrigerator going, and a home server/media center assuming adequate battery capacity.
Will...As with all of your videos, very well done! You introduce us to new products and you keep it simple. Keep on going.
Hi Will, I was waiting for these hybrid inverter videos! I really appreciate all the info you decode for the rest of us, newcomers.
I have been searching for more info about these MPPsolar units (Voltronic like the Axpert and so on) and what I have found is that they don't work that well with LiFePo4 cells. Here's what can be read at AEVA forums: "it doesn't charge LiFePO4 batteries properly, and also doesn't support a BMS properly. Most of this would be solved if we were able to change some charge parameters on the fly. For example, to stop it charging when a single cell starts getting too high in voltage, we could increase the Bulk and Float voltage settings. Hopefully, we can get the last Cell Management Unit (CMU) to send a short command to the unit to effect the change."
It seems that they were able to create an unofficial firmware with support for LiFePo4 for the 48v inverters, but they couldn't do the same with lower voltage versions. But I need a 24v system for my van!
It would be amazing if you could try using the Sinology cells with the 24v unit to test what they say! I was so hyped up about building a system THAT simple and now I'm so bummed for not being able to bring that to life.
What in the world?! These guys don't know what they are talking about. Just use a BMS, set upper limit voltage and low voltage disconnect, and it will work great. To have individual cell monitoring you need a BMS anyways. Of course these units can't do that but it doesn't matter. Wow I would stay away from that forum. That's really silly. That's like saying a inverter doesn't work well with LiFePO4 because it can't monitor individual cell voltages LOL yeah that's just silly. I'm using it with a raw pack LiFePO4 right now.
@@WillProwse great news then! Thanks for the heads up!
I'm a fan of all-in-one box.
I notice MPPSolar have MPPT batteryless invertercharger - PIP5048GK. Run devices entirely off solar PV. Maybe you could get one to review!! Keep up the good work.
Will, you could swap the fans for quieter ones, or add a resistor to them to slow them down a bit if temperature isn't a problem. Locking away in a closet might not be good if it isn't ventilated to allow cold air in!
Yes agreed!! Future video comimg haha. I am having trouble finding a replacement fan though. It's driving me nuts.cant be that hard, will find one soon
@@WillProwse I think a good guide to the flow rate is the watt rating on the fans. They sound a bit beefier than usual PC coolers.
If all else fails, you could mount the fans elsewhere and pipe the air in to the unit with dryer hose!
Smart idea!!! I always appreciate your comments Andy. Great ideas
@@WillProwse
Where there's a Will, there's a way... ;-)
This seems like a perfect solution if you have a freezer in a shed or in the garage and want to eliminate the draw from the grid. You can run an extension cord to it as a backup, but for the majority of the load, it pulls from the solar panels and batteries.
100% pure info from start to finish - Great video👍
Hi Will, you're talking about using a water heater as a load dump when the batteries are full. How did you connect that?
i use a similar unit, the fan problem can be solved quite easy, open the unit take the fans out and replace with high-quality fans like silentwing from Bequiet, also switched the blow direction, so the blow upwards (thermodynamics ftw) instead of downwards.
Wow another great video fromb you. Keep then coming! I bought your book from Amazon. I love it. It is very interesting as well as entertaining. I can also use the adjectives,; concise, well written, educational. It is a masterpiece. Thanks Will!
I have the 12 volt one in 24v 2400w and it's been serving for a yr. Great unit
Good to know!!!
+1. No issues here either.
Not sure about this model but the newer ones have a screw hole on one of the feet on the backside. I took all the components out and mounted the housing with the two mounting holes at the top and the screw hole on the bottom foot, then put all the components back in. Now it’s nice and secure in the r.v
My concern would be robustness and long term reliability. I have a victron system which has worked flawlessly for over ten years now and has been subjected to several overload conditions and a couple of short circuit conditions with no problems. In my experience, you buy cheap, you buy twice.
okay, ( looking over my list) Will said to get an MPPT controller, some solar panels and a couple of shunts and circuit breaker and proper gauge wire, inverter, etc.
(turns on this video). WAIT! What?!?!?
(reaction) Honeyyyyy! send everything back! but keep the solar panels and lithium batteries!
Hey I'm doing the same thing!!! Haha these things are awesome! I wish I knew about them earlier
😏 Casper - ain’t life crazy? I will take my chances. We shall see over time.
Also, check out 15:25.
@@mikefranks4528 How's this unit been working for you?
Can this feed into an RV breaker box to then power the various factory outlets throughout the RV?
12volt w/ 2,000 watt inverter and I would buy now... 800 watts is just enough to not be enough...(for me)
You do realize that 2000 Watts from a 12 volt source is ~185 Amps. That's a heck of a lot of current to take out of a single 12 volt battery. If you need more batteries to "share" the load, you might as well go to a 24v string and cut your current in half.
@@g-whiz286 Its 2000 watts of A/C power 20 Amps. Standard kitchen outlet.
This thing is really a boxed up ups with solar charging if you break down its core parts but still great they make an integrated option.
you forgot the AC charging an the automatic transfer switch
Glad You Reviewed And Tested The Two Unites! I Like The 12 Vote Unit And For The Emergency Backup Electric! Another Good Video Will!
There is a remote display available for these mppsolar
All in ones on eBay so it can be put in a compartment blocking the fan noise.
I asked the ebay seller, and he said that the remote wasn't compatible with the 1012LV-MS model (the smaller model). Do you own that model? Did you get the remote working with that model?
Best inverter on the market. There are models that can work without battery. Sow you can use the with solar direct
Very informative videos , thanks for all the reviews . Those all in one systems have a third attachment screw next to the battery terminal screws .
Fan sound phobia alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL great video. I am learning a lot and your videos are great......I sleep with a fan and run a room UV-C filtration unit a lot....so I guess I do not see the problem with fan noise. I would like to see how much the fans/heat output affect the space temp.
I dont know, all eggs in one basket. Con: the high idle draw of the inverter component, fans. Great job Will, as always.
I am confused... you have two videos that look like the same model with one being so negative and the other was so positive??? (talked bit to soon, everything was loud and clear at the end) Great info! Thanks!
No, this one is critical and does testing. The other one covers installation with the implication that the person knows the downsides. Everything available has pros and cons.
Yep, I have been looking at these Hybrid Inverters. In Thailand, I will use it to power a 24K BTU SPLIT AC UNIT. I can get the Lifepo4s pretty cheaply. They even make one where you don't need batteries! If you have enough solar to power your loads, you are good to go.
Will, thanks for the highlighted comment. Your videos are the best!
Until it gets dark))
Testing an MPP solar inverter charger on the computer, and website behind app is showing Victron products :) There is a massive thread about these on the AEVA forums - it goes to great lengths discussing the 48V model, but many of the suggestions also work on the 24V and 12V models. They've even made a custom firmware for the 48V models, allowing them to overload for a short period before going over to grid power, and in the true aussie sense, they've called it KettleKomp, short for Kettle Compensation, allowing a heavy load to run for a short period without going to grid :)
Hahaha you are observant
You are very informative and helpful to those of us that are interested in a mobile units keep it up.
I think I’m going this way for my new setup too, thanks for the insight!
The 800W 12v unit now has 1200W on the latest 12V module which is great.
Oh nice!
Got a link? I can't find where these are. I followed link in description and ebay listings are expired and don't seem to have replacements. Thanks.
The 800W 12v i received off e bay says 800 watts. Where did you see 1200 ???
There seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding here. The original 12v unit was 800W. The new model is a 1000w. They also just released the 1200W unit but still sell the 1000w unit. The 800W unit has been discontinued and is no longer for sale.
@@derekmarshall2169 Ok Great give us some links so we can check it out.👍
you continue to amaze me wish i could fully understand
You and your channel are very special to me and for many people, go ahead and God bless you very much.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Please check inside the box there is a small L bracket that help to hold the cables and also help fix from the bottom,there a hole at the bottom of the inverter where the solar cable is connected
Yes there is. Little brackets. Should have used them.
You can flip the fans over and it will make it a bit quieter ter and run a bit cooler.
Apart from confirming the idle wattage to be relatively close to the one shown on the manual, I wish you load tested it for efficiency across loads from 200w to 2400w in steps of 300w, then confirm what efficiency you are getting from it.
I like the idea of "all-in-one" units, but if anything goes out, your whole system is out. I had an AIMS 12v 2000W unit with inverter, grid charger and transfer switch. The inverter went out under warranty, and I had to send the whole thing off and it took I think three weeks or so to get it back. Right after the warranty went out, the transfer switch started acting up. With a modular setup, you can at leat put a cheaper backup in place (if you have one) until you can fix/replace that one unit. I still like the idea of an all-in-one, and that unit looks pretty nice, but after the issues with the AIMS, I'm a bit hesitant. Nice video though. Always appreciate your honest reviews.
Yes I totally agree. And these units can be paralleled, so buy two for redundancy. They are dirt cheap. Nearly the same cost as similar sized inverter alone. And powerwall nmc guys have used these units for 5+ years 24/7. So I'm sticking to this from now on. It's just easier. But yeah, modular is better in that regard. Absolutely.
Also have to realize that all of them will be all in one units one day. Having separate products for things as simple as a transfer switch is just plain silly. And mppt is easy to build now. Each individual circuit board has multiple modules in itself too. So if someone can make a reliable one, which isn't that hard, then you are fine. And I have heard bad things about aims inverters. Maybe buy a xantrex or victron so you won't have problems.
@@WillProwse The aims unit had good reviews when I bought it in early 2016, but now, while not bad, not so great. When you say the units can be paralleled, is that just to the batteries, or can the inverter outputs be combined too? I'm thinking not, but that would be nice.
I could be biased having arrived at your channel through van conversion but it surprises me you are so 24v focussed given the majority of your ‘market’ is 12v.
This product seems awesome but as you say a 1500-2000W model would be perfect AND IN 12V!
I do agree the 24 volt system would be better. Looking forward to your updates.
I have a 3kw 24 volt. Working well
The cost analysis between the MPP and modular is a no brainer.
Have you considered breaking open the MPP and converting it to modular...(maybe there are multiple boards and connected by harnesses that could be extented) that is, if possible, replacing the fans with heat sinks (or apply some big heat sinks and a quiet fan system too as a mod...) You are going to void your warranty but these things are not exactly going to break the bank and looks like that would be a great project
that unit looks good.way better than my 3k devel inverter using 5A self consumption.
It is normal for the fans to work permanently, I have a msxe 3024 taken for 2 days and the fans do not stop. thank you
The lcd menu looks like a xantrex. Had the same fan noise on a xantrex 2k for the boat. Good review. Thanks
There is a third mounting screw hole behind the removable bottom piece. Look on page 5 of the manual...
Thanks
@@WillProwse welcome
Exactly what I'm looking for. Only one question, Sorry if it's a dumb one but i'm really learning. If I choose the 24V system how do I connect that to feed a 12V system in an RV.
DC converter
My offgrid house, it has its own power room, with all the batteries and inverters and such, so the 24v would work fine!!
Did u try checking the inside of the case for the mounts?
In the USA where unfortunately you have 110/120V AC, these 12V/24V systems are ok, but we have 220V/240V, so I prefer 48V and up. It basically means you can use thinner wires on the batteries and there's less overall current flowing around.
Hey I totally agree with you. I wish it was 220v here
Yes but we have 60Hz - no flickering lights.
Thank you for pointing out the loud FAN NOISE -- super important. Question: does the Growatt operate more quietly and / or efficiently?
Good. But suggest if you parallel two 12V battery Would you consider to add a high power resistor between them. Just prevent short circuit. Yes but the current only 17A. It should be fine.
Is there another choice rather than MPP solar I followed you before in purchase one and they sent me one made for the Europe market unusable for me, I am a complete novice to this, but you made it look so easy and I’m sure it would be if I had bought the right panels ( they should have warned me ,they did later, ) I’m disappointed with them. I’m stuck with this one. So I’ll buy another brand. If you can. I believe you are very knowledgeable in this and I trust you. It’s there’s and my fault. Anything you can advise will be appreciated.
lol, had exactly the same issues with connecting to the pc. after a few days of fiddling, i finally got it right.. the fans are loud as hell, thats the downside. you can switch off the beeping noise.. I had no quality issues at all. i have the 5kw 48v version
Where can I find the 48v version
I've just been able to find a 24v version
You're right about the fans, they do drive me nuts. I put it in a closet behind a door which helps a lot. Do you have a link to the web site to set the parameters and configure this unit properly. The manual is definitely not adequate. thanks.
To prevent stranded wire from fraying when inserting into a compression connection, either A) tin the wires with solder or B) crimp on a wire pin (preferably solid) terminal.
Do you think you'll ever make a video about the generator starting feature? I think these units are able to remote start certain generators rather than transferring to grid.
for future idea for people wanting one of these systems you could probably purchase noctua fans to quite down the fans you would just have to open it up and change the stock fans
I use this kind of system since 2019 brand name Easun. Look like very similar. Same mounting problem, but i found that mine had 3rd screw hole near AC input terminal (inside) mine also had bluetooth, i can manage via my phone-bluetooth connection. Yes there is 2 fan that only works when sensor detect high temperature on the system. The 2nd fan will work when battery power are being used. There is also priority power-timer setting that we can set, PV daily output, month or yearly output. This system will autopilot us after we input all necsessary setting. I am using now on year 2, 3kW 24V system. Auto switching between solar,utility and battery is very interesting... btw i need to clean dust regularly to make sure the cooling system and air flow not interupted.
I just got an EASun 48v unit. I will check for that 3rd screw hole when it arrives. I am glad to have seen your comment
It's not silly. I have MPP LV2424 and i have the same problem the fans are horrendous. These units can be problematic. For some reason I may have a bad one and am working with support (slowly) now. Their technical support is definitely slow. With no load aside from the inverter itself and two 12 volt 100 amp batteries, the system drains the batteries in minutes and dies. Definitely something defective there. As easy as these are to work with, they have their problems. I've definitely been bitten by quality control issues. Good video. I wish I'd have found it before I purchased. It definitely would have opened my eyes to a few things.... I'd love to know what settings you changed.
LOVE THE CONCEPT but how do you power the dumb 12 volt stuff in the van? No bluetooth remote?