Normans in Spain // Roger Tosny & The Reconquista (1013-1040)
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I don't understand:when were the Normans in Spain?
Terrapin alive maybe watch the video?
Great video, greetings from Spain!!
Amsterdam did not really exist yet, but it is on the map. It should be Utrecht as primary city in the Netherlands.
History Time LOL
YES YES YES!!!! The de Tosny's are my ancestors, Everyone up to the very last one you mentioned. There is so little on the internet about them in English, so this is so awesome for me!
Nice
That's honestly amazing 👏, congrats and that should help with making the family tree lol History Time is amazing.
The family that the female Irish "pirate" Grace O'Malley married into are my own ancestors on my father's mother's side and she's been mentioned on here before and I was as excited as you are now hahah Though, you have a much cooler/better reason to be wicked excited because it's the whole video for you and with mine, O'Malley married INTO the de Borgia(Burk after Irishization of the name Borgia) family instead of with you where they're your blood ancestors.
My own family thought O'Malley was a blood relative too until I had to sorrowfully explain to them that she had married our ancestor, treated him very poorly, and shook him down for everything he had including an attempt to take the family castle forever lol
So, she would have been an ENEMY of our family after briefly being our relative's wife.
what a stupid comment...
@Nicolas Cataldo I have ancestors who fought another of my ancestors, sometimes dying in the battle. You'd think I'd be used to it, but I facepalm every time I find another one.
dude you're putting in some awesome work, like a self made 40 minute video pretty much every week. its gonna pay off big time. muchos luvos
Thanks friend! Much more on the way :) Just getting started!
@@HistoryTime ex Slavic Christian turned Islamic ruler in Spain now cmon that's some history for ya!
There is a massive void on good reconquista content on youtube, its refreshing to see some finally :)
Much more on the way! Its such a rich and fascinating era
Indeed. Flash point history made many unbiased and complex video about the reconquista
The related Voice of the Past channel has excellent content on the post-Colombian Americas, Reconquista, Meiji Japan, and all kinds of stuff. All first person accounts.
Your videos are so well researched it is ridiculous; You seriously set the mark for quality history videos on RUclips
Thanks friend! Really appreciate the kind words. So much more on the way
History Time, you are the 2020 history channel. We love you.
Thankyou James but I don't want anything to do with the history channel :D no ancient aliens or ice road truckers on History Time
@@HistoryTime Well, haha ya the modern channel. I just remember those old days as a young kid sitting in awe watching the "real" history channel on "real" history. Your work on this channel brings back those feelings. Amazing work, thank you for what you do man!!
Hallo from Denmark again . Great video . Well once again we Enter the Golden age of the normans with awesome video . Now Barcelona incident is classic example of psychological warfare. Of course the normans did practice canibalism . But their did not know that . So making their enemies think they did was a cleaver scare tactics to make them think a second time going in battle with them ... But during the Golden age of the normans . Many normans Adventures went out from normandy to seek wealth and areas of influence elsewhere . Many of them was actully children of Norman nobles . And in most cases they were the second child . And since Big brother woud inherrit the title of and lands . Many Norman little brothers set out to find their own land , wealth and titles elsewhere. And these Norman Adventures carved out lands snd kingdoms for themself in southern Italy and the Island of scicily ... And one of the most famous was Robert Guiscard. He came to southern Italy from normandy in 1047. And when he died in 1085 at the age of 70. He had conquered huge ares in southern Italy and the Island of Sicilily. So huge areas of Italy was under his direct rule ... And of course the normans was also active in Spain . They went were ever they coud find wealth and glory ... Just like their viking ancestors ....
Thanks for watching friend. Really enjoy reading your comments!
History Time you are welcome sir
History Time And I enjoy watching your videos friend . You put hard work and research into them . And since almost most topics in your video’es are awesome and its actully are things that I find interesting . I like to comment them . So keep up good work . I look foreword to the next video ..... 😀
Dude, you're killing it. I know a few historians that can't hold a candle to you.
Thanks man really appreciate the kind words.
"What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun."
(Ecclesiastes 1:9)
The Normans are one of my favorite band of mercenaries and conquerors
You mean the tribe of Dan.
Same. They had the coolest gear and were overall badasses
@@AK-hi7mg They were the perfect blend of Latin and Germanic culture. They were OP af.
Vikings just had to kick some ass around the world! Great at the trade!
@@dalesen
No offense to you... But I have to tell you as a historian that the Vikings weren't very good as fighters. They were good raiders and made great mercenaries in someone else's army but that's about it.
Normans also weren't Vikings... Norman and Gothic history is my hobby... The name "Norman" is a misnomer... Ironically, it's the "House of Normandy" that put an end to Norse raids in France. According to their chronicle they were Goths from Dacia (modern day Romania) who were joined by East Anglians in their settlement of Normandy.
For some reason what the Normans had to say about their own origins has been completely ignored by modern historians.
always makes me happy when History time uploads :)
Thankyou! Glad you like the channel!
@@HistoryTime You're Welcome thank you for doing so much viking history i myself am from Denmark so i find it rather fascinating.
One thing that has always irked me about recounts of Hastings is how belittling it is to the Saxon army. "Just Fyrdmen. Exhausted. Demoralised."
If true, its hard not to be astonished that mere farmers on a jolly beat one of the greatest warrior kings of the age (Hardrada) and then marched 200 miles and gave battle to the single most professional and battle hardened force in Europe led by a plethora of skilled and shrewd commanders.. and nearly won.
This is one of the best history channels on YT but it is hard to not catch the bias in the tone. Sure Al Mansour "ravaged" but what about them Normans Huns Vandals and Goths? What about the stories of incredible forbearance and tolerance of the Arabs and Berbers during their rule?
Their William video is nine minutes long, thats funny they gave the most well known figure nine minutes where almost all the other Normans/Norman events get 15+.
Probably something about being bored with such an oft covered figure or some such.
@@erminization they were taking slaves because they were tolerant lmao
Didn't they had like 1 or 2 weeks to rest?
Very interesting video! I always love these kind of lesser-known stories from history
Thanks man! I need to get stuck into your podcast! Super interesting stuff. I'm hooked on 11th century Spain at the minute. Any episodes you'd recommend on this period?
@@HistoryTime I think Flashpoint History has stuff of this period, I'm still in 6th century Spain.
The History of Spain Podcast I love your podcast!!
@@theamazingfuzzlord thank you for your kindness! I hope you are enjoying it :)
@@TheHistoryofSpainPodcast Flashpoint History is a fantastic podcast and channel.
If anyone from Normandy is here, greetings and thank you 😊
And greetings from the Danelaw
History Time we are always glad to have the British Vikings as allies 😊
Greetings from Normandy from Caen exactly kaen
The way these Norman families wind themselves in all sorts of historical situations. Crazy.
What a great weekend!!! History Time Channel video over 30 minutes!!! And a Voices of the Past video yesterday!!! Yes!! Oh I love history!!
Much more on the way friend! Thanks for tuning in!
You really are the expert on early medieval European history
That is high praise indeed. Thanks very much friend
@@HistoryTime You completely deserve it. You are so smart and I feel dumb around you, xd. Thanks for reading. most people don't do that
Wow, this video really showed how interconnected European history was
You are making me addicted to these video series you are making about World History... I love all the knowledge they provide... Keep it up and keep it real !
The normans really went everywhere in Europe, like their Viking ancestors
Absolutely !
Would love to know more about the Norman role in the Siege of Bobastro in 1064 vs the Muslims in Iberia!
Hikma History Thanks for bringing this campaign to my attention man. I’m really only scratching the surface of 11th century Iberia. Gonna have to make a video about this battle now. Super interesting and involved such a varied cast of characters. Interesting how it was papally sanctioned. It kind of seems like a crusade before the crusades. I also can’t wait to cover El Cid -Spent most of his life allied to Muslim powers as far as I can tell so shows the complicated geopolitical situation.
@@HistoryTime it came to my attention because I did my BA thesis on al-Andalus. I read a source that mentioned how the victorious Norman mercenaries quickly adopted Andalusian clothes and customs. Then when I read that they did a similar thing in Sicily, my interest in the Normans went through the roof! They seem so adaptable to any country or culture they conquered; Anglo-Saxon England, Muslim Sicily etc.
@@HikmaHistory Ah that's super interesting! Very good point- A couple of Norman lords even became Eastern Romans, founding relatively long lasting dynasties in Byzantium. They were experts at adapting to whatever situation they found themselves in.
@@HistoryTime ahh I didn't know that! Were used for the Varangian Guard or am I thinking of they're ancestors, the Vikings?
@@HikmaHistory Hervé Frankopoulos is the main guy I'm thinking of but there were others too. Varangians were separate. At one stage the Byzantines had Varangians and Normans in their armies
Be Ye all Hailed ye noble blood of decendant Europeans//Greets from Scandinavia to you all you my beloved kins xxx :)
You should do a whole series on lesser known houses across Europe in the middle ages
Something like this is in the works !
Fantastic stuff- these are the best history videos on RUclips
Thanks man really appreciate that
I enjoy these ver much. The way you describe the different people by including their looks & so much information makes the stories very enjoyable. Thankyou
Thanks for putting this out. Educational and enjoyable.
Thanks very much for watching!
Man this is epic!! I never knew this stuff man you really do learn something new each and every day of your life, Keep up the great work man loving it never stop please!!
Thanks for watching appreciate the kind words!
Love the maps.
croatia in the time of francks
hello you are very precise on you presentation , distinguishing the Iberian Peninsula from modern or precent day Kingdom of Spain. grate job and thanks. saludos
Thanks for watching!
There has never been Iberian kingdoms. They never called themselves Iberian. That's a modern word that was taken from an ancient Greek name. All the people in the Península of Hispania called themselves Hispanic kingdoms. Las Españas, The Spains. Iberia is used now in the 20th and 21st century to avoid saying Hispanic. Because the USA has confused everybody with what is really a Hispanic. Which is why people use Latin and Iberian. But the fact is the Christian and Islamic kingdoms were all Hispanic kingdoms.
@@marceloorellana5726 hello you are confusing a Geographical name IBERIA for political jurisdiction, HISPANIA, ethnicity CATALAN, VASCO, CÁNTABRO, GALEGO, ECT, Iberian from the PENINSULA IBERICA A GEOGRAPHY, read a modern map Saludos Ibero, FELIZ NAVIDAD
@@marceloorellana5726 hello NOTE HISPANIA JURISDICTION POLITICAL AND ECONOMICAL, PROVINCE OF ROMA , ( NO A GEOGRAPHICAL NAME ) ceased to exist in the year 476 with the arrival of the Visigoth, today Spaniards. Saludos Iberos
I would say the Reconquista began the moment way back when the Moors were repelled from Galicia by the Galicians, Britonians and others. Leon, Asturias and eventually Castile were extensions of that pushback.
You could say that. But that was more survival than reconquest. For me, the real Reconquista began after the fall of the caliphate in cordoba and the death of Sancho the Great of Navarre. It began when Sancho’s son, Ferdinand king of Leon and Castile, consolidated his rule in 1054 and the next year started eating up territory from the Muslims in what is today Portugal. From that time on, nearly continuous war was fought between the Christian north and Muslim south (and between the Christians and Muslims themselves). So the Reconquista truly began in that period, imo.
I don't have words to describe how much your work means to history, present and future generations. You are by far the most complete fount of information about history of this period. Thank you so much. Regards from Brazil. Ps. There are plenty of people here who have Tosny blood running through our veins.
welcome back , we sorely missed this medieval topic. well done sir , thank you , cr.
ooooh yesss another delightful documentary !!!
Thanks for watching friend
It's amazing how you always make such specific videos about unknown parts of European history
Very well done and extremely informative. An excellent listen while on the road.
Great content as always! Keep it up!
Thanks for watching friend!
@@HistoryTime You are welcome and thank you so much for providing such amazing videos!
Viking protection racket is the best mideval civ strategy.
Whoa ... the Tosnys are one of the most difficult families to sort out. Various of them pop up here and there (I have Ida de Tosny on both sides of the blanket), but good luck with making sense of the family. This video gave me much more perspective--including how Roger got wrapped up in Spain. I didn't know of his conflict with Roger de Beaumont, nor did I know that Walter Giffard tried his hand in Spain. Thank you so very much for another fascinating and enlightening video.
You're the Æthelstan of you tube documentary's
oh wow that is high praise indeed. Thanks very much!
you're putting in some awesome work,
I always learn something new on this channel
An excellent lesson in history! Thank you.
I find it interesting the amount of Germanic influence in Norman and Frankish culture even after being affiliated with Roman customs for many generations. LIke the names of Roger Tosny and Ademar de Chabannes and Tancrede de Hauteville. With Roger meaning coming from Hrothgar meaning "famous spear", Ademar meaning "noble fame", and Tancrede meaning "well-though advice". This is even seen in the Christian Kings of the Jerusalem the with Baldwin line of Kings in which Baldwin roughly means "bold friend". Just a little tid bit.😜
@captmitty In my source the modern name Roger is from the Early Frankish Hrothgar. Anglo Saxon also had a similar name. Maybe Sanskrit and Germanic had a distant ancient Indo European ancestor? However, Roger, as we know it, is Germanic.
@captmitty The reason for Rogers in France is because Hrothgar or whatever was primarily a Frankish name. Frankish was a Low Country language. The High Country Germanic languages did not, for some reason, modernize their version of Hrothgar. That is why there is not a popular modern version in German.
Roderick as we know it comes from Old High German, the closest ancestor of standard German. There are, however, original cognates of Roderick found in Celtic languages.
Sanskrit is believed to have Indo European ancestors so that is why I mentioned it and the Germanic languages.
@captmitty Your welcome, anytime.
That is because you have not learnt the list of Gothic Kings (and other names) in Spain. We even have Tormundo=Hammer of Thor.
Yup the Germanic culture(s), influenced a lot Francia north of the Loire valley, that's why the French language nowaday has a different pronounciation than the rest of the Romance languages. It's because standard French comes from the Frankish heartland in Paris and northern France who spoke Latin with heavy Frankish influences. The sound "r", "u", "eu" in French are like the "r", "ü", "ö" in German,and it's estimated that 13% of the French language is Frankish. Fun fact, the closest language to French outside Romance languages is...Dutch with 36% of cognates. :)
wow! thanks! I know so little about this time period
Its such a fascinating time
Thanks for covering this ignored part of history
Thanks for watching man!
@@HistoryTime no problem
I'm from Spain. I think I understand my relation to Normandy now. ;-)
Greetings from the English Danelaw!
Oh wow, and this video talks about thousand year old barely applicable to you in anything but a vague sense history, and you had an entire educational system, but im glad your a fan.
@@mrsir2254
How do you know if it doesn't directly pertain to him, this is pure arrogance on your part.
My family lived in Catalonia until 1896 and this video applied directly to me.
Checkout my surname and the Catalan cities that do as well, the facebook group "amigos de GenCatalana/Amics de GenCatalana" will give you access to many ancient writings beside the church to prove ancestral heritage!
Hi from Normandy the vikings land
Another epic video.
Thanks for watching friend !
I had no idea the Normans even went to Spain
The "Nord-mans" did 118 (known) attacks in NW Spain (vikings) and some places were inhabited by them.
Fantastic, interesting and in depth, thank you.
Roger I 'd'Espagne' de Tosny seigneur de Tosny, Standard Bearer of Normandy is my 31st great uncle!
Gotta love Geni, those wily Normans/Vikings live on in all of us NW Europeans.
I love this part of history in the way you do best. Thank you! Could you tell about the basque people defended the frontier against the moral?
The reality regarding the Christianized Barbarians that settled the ruins of the Roman Empire was that they would invariably intermingle amongst the natives and assimilate a great deal of local culture whilst preserving much of their own (the Romanized Visigoths of Spain, for example, had already absorbed elements of Illyrian, Gallic, Frankish, and Roman ancestry by the time they crossed the Pyrenees; they would, however, continue to speak their ancient tongue within their courts, whilst simultaneously using vulgar Latin for administrative, religious and casual purposes). In this respect, the Normans were no different than the aforementioned Hispano-Goths, Franks, Saxons, Longobards, Rus, Vandals, etc. There were no pure Germanics or Scandinavians left in Latin Europe within a few generations of their arrival.
So awesome that you cover topics not covered by other channels. ( real crusades sh*t posting doesn't count ). Keep it up. I hope you go into the prussian and wendish crusades in depth.
Would love to see manny more history time videos focused on the normans!
Fascinating!
Ossss que grande ahí poniendo historia de mi españita,como debe ser!!
There was an Otto Bassett that sailed with William the Conquerer. My great xmany grandfather he was a falconer for William. Always have taken pride in my Norman brethren
Maybe sometime you could do the Normans in Sicily also.
Oh absolutely!
I loves these videos
Thanks friend!
dude open up that mid/high end you sound underwater.
ps: don't ever stop making videos
Really great content that nobody talks.
The taifa wars sound like a pretty cool topic
Love how Santiago is in Lugo I'm most of the maps you show XDD
A really great video. I have just found out that I descend from the Tosny family, through the last of the line Alice who married William Zouche. Putting info onto Ancestry at the moment, and this video has really helped. Thank you.
Wonderful stuff as always - just a reminder about the Duchy of Amalfi when you can sir
Thanks man! Something on Amalfi is in the works. Will probably be a while yet though
@@HistoryTime - no worries sir - when and if you can - there is a great Jacobean play by John Webster about the Duchess - might be an interesting angle on the real history
Very nice.
Thanks for watching friend!
God I love learning!
Its the best
God I would love to see more than your beautiful face.
History repeats itself
This tale of normans mercenarys(in the Iberian medieval kingdoms) is a good inspiration to the spanishs nationalists(monarchists),and reveal the dark side of this people,the real army of Rome(Pope)in the England invasion,and late in the Ireland too.
Where can I see that first map, please? Anyone?
Thanks for showing that France was not unified in any sense back then but was a collection of countries
France is France even if there is many distinct people in the country ,the country was created by a Frankish lord Clovis who wanted to created the "country of the free man" , a Norman clearly not look like a Burgundian but they have the same ancestors !
@@rachelsombo9045 no they dont the majority of french arent related to normans in any way
👑RÍOS FAMILY 👑 it refers to the ROYAL HOUSE OF ASTURIAS where the RÍOS👑 last name most likely originated from 👑
This is really cool of the normans to go to Spain 🇪🇸
They r like the rock stars of medical warfare
I like the map.
Thanks for watching!
@11:45 There is a term for this in medieval literature... it is referred to as the "Epic Blow."
You have to wonder at how hard the Normans were laughing at their own theater of making the Moors believe that they were cannibals. A morbid sense of humor passed down from the Vikings no doubt.
Great Work^^ Keep Rocking in it ,not of it !
That's a nice map. Did you make it or get it somewhere?
I came here to ask the same thing.
Variety of places. There is a great guy who makes maps for me
Get a pop shield for that mic bud! Love the research 👍
I actually have one but maybe I'm not using it correctly... I feel like I may be too close to the mic?
History Time it sounds like it, which mic do you use? It sounds ' boxy', but that could be from reading in a cubicle set up, I would suggest you keep a foot away from the mic, place it level or a bit higher than your mouth ( so your chin is up when you you speak) when sitting with a straight back, place a few blankets or cushions around the desk to soak up 'echo'. Don't read your script with it lying on your desk, hold it up breath deep ten times before a take sorry to go on, force of habit 👍
History TIIIIIME
I appreciate your videos very much, unfortunately the sound is sometimes so dull that it is almost difficult to understand. It would be great if you could do something about this. Best wishes 🌈🪬
Love the Cnut references there. Ur going in the right direction. Great to get such in depth background history too.
Just one thing! THE AUDIO ON THIS IS WHACK :()
His video has been in the works for over a year. One of my favourite early medieval kings so It's going to be a behemoth when it is finally finished.
Sorry about the audio I am still an amateur when it comes to technology. Hopefully will improve for the next video.
Wow Denia!
I TOLD Norman not to go, but, would he listen??? No!
Love the episode, but what's up with the audio?
There was a BBC series "The Normans" by a Prof Bartlett - 2010 from the still shrink wrapped DVD I have here. That was excellent, but this Norman "series" of History Time is at the very least its equal, probably better. Unlike TV - more interested in giving an impression - you/History Time doesn't shirk away from the detailed timeline and characters/places/events involved. Terrific stuff.
Wow wow wow that is high praise indeed. The Normans is a great series and Bartlett one of my favourite tv historians. Thanks so much! The good thing about this channel is that i'm not constrained by attempting to fit everything into three episodes. I can do 50 episodes if that's what it takes to tell the full story!
13:41 - Pay attention to the blue Star of David on the shield with red edge. That guy chose to fight alongside the Muslims, against the Christians.
Top Notch 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
My 31st Great Uncle
You → Denise Kogler, your mother → Marcelle Helene Marchoux, her mother → Jean Texier, her father → Magdeleine Texier, his mother → Marie Vauzelle, her mother →
Marquis Etienne Texier de Javerlhac, her father → Marquis Etienne-Marie Texier de Javerlhac, his father → Gabrielle Texier de Javerlhac, his mother → Comte Jean Baptiste de Roffignac, Chevalier, Seigneur de Belleville, les Brosses (Oradour sur Vayres), Saint-Angel et la Francherie, her father → Anne de La Pisse, his mother → Madeleine de Chasteigner de La Rocheposay,
her mother → Pons de Chasteigner de La Rocheposay, her father → Isaac Chasteigner, his father → René Chasteigner, his father → Godefroy Chasteigner, his father → Madeleine du Puy,
his mother → Catherine de Prie, her mother → Madeleine d'Amboise, her mother → Hugues III d'Amboise, seigneur de Chaumont, her father → Marguerite de Joinville, his mother →
Amé de Joinville, sgr de Mery et d'Estraelles, her father → Jean de Joinville, sgr de Vaucouleurs, Mery, Vertus et Parc de Lachy, his father → Gauthier de Joinville, seigneur de Vaucouleurs,
his father → Maud de Lacy, Baroness Geneville, his mother → Isabel Bigod, her mother → Sir Hugh Bigod, 3rd Earl of Norfolk, Surety of the Magna Carta, her father → Roger Le Bigod, 2nd Earl of Norfolk, Surety of the Magna Carta, his father → Hugh le Bigod, 1st Earl of Norfolk, his father → Adeliza de Toeni, heiress of Belvoir, his mother → Robert I de Toeni, Lord of Belvoir,
her father → Roger II de Tosny, seigneur de Conches, his father → Raoul II de Tosny, his father → Roger I 'd'Espagne' de Tosny, his brother
I'm not sure how much is known about Dyflin and Isle of Mann viking sea kings and their relation to Normandy, but it would be interesting to know further on this link. It would seem Ivarr Ragnarsson might of been the king of Dyflin and some of his descendants intermarried with relatives of Rollo. I would seem like the Maxwell clan in Scotland might also have a connection to this lineage.
28:40 It seems to be a mistake there. "Donjon" precisely means "keep" in French, and thus the small castle built by Tosny in 1035 is called "Donjon de Conches-en-Ouche" (Conches-en-Ouche's Keep), but it's not its name per se. As far as I know it's just called that, not any specific name. If it was ever called by any other name at the time, I'm pretty sure nobody knows what it was.
Rather interesting, including finding out about the de Tosny father and son, my 28th and 27th great grandfathers. Eek
Therefore also high, archbishop of Rouen
And Richard ii 'the good' Duke of Normandy, my 28th great-grandfather.
and Berenguer Ramon I el Corbat, XVII comte de Barcelona is my 29th great grandfather, king Ethlred my 29thggfa.
Can't help family history! 😂
Even Normandy was extremely divided back then
I am beyond confused now. French politics and emigrations have got me beat. I have Saxon, (Gothic or Norman), Frankish and Gaulish heritage to track.
@Bear hn Thank you i'll give them a looking into.
@Bear hn Sorry was a bit busy, never saw this comment before. I watched 'Britain's Bloodiest Dynasty', but couldn't track back through the Lancasters (Palace doesn't know either yet). I'll check out the rest when I get a chance, thanks. Hope you prefer this name ;).
I'm glad you pointed out how France was not a country
Hi HT, At school back in the 90s I was taught that William the Bastards Mother was a Cousin of Tancred De Hauteville, Is this correct? If so that is one heck of a Bloodline. Seems much of what I learned at School has changed with new evidence since
Someone help history time how to make a proper mic setup please.
Please! haha I am bad with technology... Give me a pencil and paper any day..
Roger Roger
Might want to look up some French pronunciation... "mangeur" (mawh-jeur)
I like the idea of a unified Christian front - comprised of Visigoths, Normans, Vascos, Hispanoromans, Cantabrian/Galician celtiberians, etc. - pushing the degenerated Moors out of Iberia
@@islamisthetruth3402 Still degenerates.
A good example of who's pulling the threads in US&UK are the lies in the Hollywood movies over the Norman King John,son of Henry II the Hunter and brother of Richard.