If you were a kid and didn't figure out the only games that ran well were 2D accelerated DirectDraw games like Diablo, StarCraft, Command and Conquer, Fallout, Commandos you were likely pretty disappointed. That was basically my S3 Virge experience haha
Oh the virge, such memories. I used to turn off hw 3d on monster truck madness because half of the textures and frames were missing. I wonder if the virge is quicker than the sis igp. Might be an interesting experiment.. ive got a 2mb dx somewhere
Not buying one of these is terrific advice which I am absolutely going to ignore. Searching eBay for this very difficult motherboard now. I had one of these back in the day and managed to shoehorn a voodoo Banshee into it. ❤
M571MLR... Yechh! Can't say that I don't miss that motherboard. Rebranded chipset (SiS), rebranded audio (CM8738), and onboard SiS graphics. I had one for a short period of time before I flogged it for a proper Super Socket 7 motherboard.
that was not a failure for quake. if retail dos quake doesn't detect mscdex(or something that masquerades as it) running it complains that it cannot deliver cd audio. you can just get by this by pressing a key at that message or add -nocdaudio to the command line. i mean, it says it right there.
Except it is hung and i lowered the volume of the looping note.. :-) i’ll add a callout to make this a bit more clearer - i did chop that part a bit too hastily
Finally answered some of my questions from back in the day. I don't know if it was this channel or not. When companies or independent retailers would sell boards / processor like that. They seemed to have problems. Sure you could save $60.00 or more on a system build but had issues. I always wondered how much of it was the processor or the motherboard. I now how even more questions answered. I can tell you I hated sis chip sets and only would dell intel or via. The place I worked at was strictly a Intel shop. Not that we didn't try to sell over items. Just to many issues. Except I did love the 486dlc-40 procs. They seemed to work well. I don't know if you have one or not. But look for the Super Socket 7 motherboards. One final note. Even with a separate video card and sound card. Issue still seemed to show up. When Pentium motherboards came out. I really didn't like the idea of the built in i/o on it. I finally did end up trusting it.
On pcchips boards, the letter T in the model represents dual socket support, it appears mostly on boards that had slot 1 and socket 370 on the same board. but in the case of the m571, I believe the letter T appears for marketing or regional reasons.
Thanks for the tip :-) i did try this. I spent a week troubleshooting and just had to call it for now. There’s something up with PCI and DMA. ISA seems OK but anything PCI with DMA just causes hangs and errors. I will need to dedicate some time for investigation. I dont have another jedi board on hand but i have plenty of SIS models before and after that dont exhibit this.
Would it be possible for you to make a few close up pictures of the LAN Bracket PCB? It didn't come with my board and I'd like to reproduce it. Best regards
let's see if this works - ibb.co/cr7rNBD ibb.co/P6S9bQt :) appears to be a single layer PCB with many un-used lines including those for the activity LED if you end up creating a PCB that works please let me know and I'll add it to the companion article
I had a PCChips All-In-One - I think Celeron 400 - and it was a horror show trying to run Linux on it in 2001. Linux seemed to have drivers, but the OS would totally corrupt anytime on a single boot, and that meant the OS had to be reinstalled over and over just to do my Linux course - ouch -. I was the only one in class that had the problem, so it must have been something with the PCChips MB that Linux didn't like.
Yep very common back in the day and a real game changer for DIY market. They were a real lucky dip tho - random chipsets, random drivers .. and (in this boards case) random significant issues!
The first computer that I built for myself had this board. I initially used an MII-333 but quickly switched to a 300MHz K6-2 that I overclocked to 380MHz. I also added a Voodoo 1 and SB 128 at the time, so likely had some less issues than you experienced here. It was not a great system nevertheless and I learned a lot from the mistakes that I had made.
The m2 was unfortunately too little too late, but I have a soft spot for it. Wasn’t it nice to be able to just switch in a new chip and get speed and new features. Good times!
Ah yes. Still have their M726MRT. Slot1/370 combo AT board w/ AGP, based off ALI Aladdin Pro II chipset. Technically I'd have classified it as a 440LX competitor... except it supports Coppermine, to a degree. Neat.
If you were a kid and didn't figure out the only games that ran well were 2D accelerated DirectDraw games like Diablo, StarCraft, Command and Conquer, Fallout, Commandos you were likely pretty disappointed. That was basically my S3 Virge experience haha
Oh the virge, such memories.
I used to turn off hw 3d on monster truck madness because half of the textures and frames were missing.
I wonder if the virge is quicker than the sis igp. Might be an interesting experiment.. ive got a 2mb dx somewhere
I have so many motherboards at work that I wish I had all the breakout cables for! It's satisfying watching videos where it all gets plugged in.
Not buying one of these is terrific advice which I am absolutely going to ignore.
Searching eBay for this very difficult motherboard now.
I had one of these back in the day and managed to shoehorn a voodoo Banshee into it. ❤
Great video. Good idea to show graphs and informations on screen instead of only mentioning them verbally. Will stay for more
M571MLR... Yechh! Can't say that I don't miss that motherboard. Rebranded chipset (SiS), rebranded audio (CM8738), and onboard SiS graphics. I had one for a short period of time before I flogged it for a proper Super Socket 7 motherboard.
Very informative, thanks a lot.
Thank you :-)
My first PC with Pentium MMX 233 16MB SDR and 4GB hardisk. Bought in 1998 and use it until 2004. Added Voodoo2 so I could play Homeworld.
that was not a failure for quake. if retail dos quake doesn't detect mscdex(or something that masquerades as it) running it complains that it cannot deliver cd audio. you can just get by this by pressing a key at that message or add -nocdaudio to the command line.
i mean, it says it right there.
Except it is hung and i lowered the volume of the looping note.. :-) i’ll add a callout to make this a bit more clearer - i did chop that part a bit too hastily
All DOS related problems coms from PCI sound card.
Pretty certain I have the PCCHIPS riser that would provide 2x USB aswell as the PS/2 and IR ports.
The ATX feature (according to the manual) - if you find it I would appreciate a hi-res piccy of the front/back of the card 🙂
@@techdistractions Just sent you an email as RUclips keeps removing my comments. It shows the pin outs and where to possibly get hold of one.
Finally answered some of my questions from back in the day. I don't know if it was this channel or not. When companies or independent retailers would sell boards / processor like that. They seemed to have problems. Sure you could save $60.00 or more on a system build but had issues. I always wondered how much of it was the processor or the motherboard. I now how even more questions answered. I can tell you I hated sis chip sets and only would dell intel or via. The place I worked at was strictly a Intel shop. Not that we didn't try to sell over items. Just to many issues. Except I did love the 486dlc-40 procs. They seemed to work well. I don't know if you have one or not. But look for the Super Socket 7 motherboards. One final note. Even with a separate video card and sound card. Issue still seemed to show up. When Pentium motherboards came out. I really didn't like the idea of the built in i/o on it. I finally did end up trusting it.
On pcchips boards, the letter T in the model represents dual socket support, it appears mostly on boards that had slot 1 and socket 370 on the same board. but in the case of the m571, I believe the letter T appears for marketing or regional reasons.
It's worth trying out the extended options for set blaster. With a lot of chips the 'T4' SB Pro mode seems to work better.
Thanks for the tip :-) i did try this.
I spent a week troubleshooting and just had to call it for now.
There’s something up with PCI and DMA. ISA seems OK but anything PCI with DMA just causes hangs and errors. I will need to dedicate some time for investigation.
I dont have another jedi board on hand but i have plenty of SIS models before and after that dont exhibit this.
Would it be possible for you to make a few close up pictures of the LAN Bracket PCB? It didn't come with my board and I'd like to reproduce it. Best regards
let's see if this works - ibb.co/cr7rNBD ibb.co/P6S9bQt :)
appears to be a single layer PCB with many un-used lines including those for the activity LED
if you end up creating a PCB that works please let me know and I'll add it to the companion article
@techdistractions nice 👍 - thank you very much. I will send you my results if I get it to work.
I had a PCChips All-In-One - I think Celeron 400 - and it was a horror show trying to run Linux on it in 2001. Linux seemed to have drivers, but the OS would totally corrupt anytime on a single boot, and that meant the OS had to be reinstalled over and over just to do my Linux course - ouch -. I was the only one in class that had the problem, so it must have been something with the PCChips MB that Linux didn't like.
Oh Gads! I remember these mobo's. I built a bunch of PC's using these :)
Your PC is ruined!
Yep very common back in the day and a real game changer for DIY market.
They were a real lucky dip tho - random chipsets, random drivers .. and (in this boards case) random significant issues!
The first computer that I built for myself had this board. I initially used an MII-333 but quickly switched to a 300MHz K6-2 that I overclocked to 380MHz. I also added a Voodoo 1 and SB 128 at the time, so likely had some less issues than you experienced here. It was not a great system nevertheless and I learned a lot from the mistakes that I had made.
The m2 was unfortunately too little too late, but I have a soft spot for it.
Wasn’t it nice to be able to just switch in a new chip and get speed and new features. Good times!
Ah yes. Still have their M726MRT. Slot1/370 combo AT board w/ AGP, based off ALI Aladdin Pro II chipset.
Technically I'd have classified it as a 440LX competitor... except it supports Coppermine, to a degree. Neat.
I've got a slot 1/socket 370 combo board that has a single IS A and a single PIC slot. Naturally being pc chips you can only use one or the other.
I had one of these, i hated it.
Why are you talking so fast?
Certainly didn't seem overly fast to me 🤷