€300K Apartments in Lisbon? See How Much It'll Buy You! 🇵🇹
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Would you buy any of these apartments? Do you think the prices are fair? Let us know, and also if you like this new series! We have many ideas for similar videos!
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Prices are way too high for Portuguese standards. Only foreignors can buy at these prices. Either we'll have a continuous flow of foreignors buying property in Lisbon, or prices will most likely fall. I can't imagine young Portuguese families indebt themselves at such amounts... Better to move to other Portuguese cities... or to Danmark if you need to work for a living.
It’s the same in Denmark. It’s only the select few who can buy at the attractive locations. Nothing unique about Portugal in this regard. If you go out of the cities Portuguese can afford housing. Just like in Denmark.
It’s not a Portuguese phenomena, the same thing is happening here in London. Wealthy foreigners are pricing local people out of the property market. I know someone on a £160,000 per year salary and he cannot afford to live in zone 2 London because the property prices are too high and he can’t get a mortgage based on his salary.
I just bough my apartment on the other side of the river (near Barreiro) 81 square meters plus 14 sm of storage in the basement of the building and a river view, near a park, 81.000€. This kind of apartments were half the price a few years ago so im very happy to have bought now because it looks like the prices are always rising. Its insane.
You are surprised how little you get for 300k? Me too. I'm looking for apartments around 200k. Would never buy these ones you showed, out of my budget anyway. But it's obvious people are unloading unused AirBnBs while the interest rates are still low and people can get cheap credit. Most of these neighbourhoods were seriously gentrified. Forbearances end in september. We will see what happens then. It's very cool to live in apartments like these when you can walk out the door and have great restaurants and entertainment. It's awful when you step outside into an empty street filled with bankrupt business, I remember 2011~2014.
Unfortunately these are just the prices we will have to accept! But yes, living around bankrupt businesses is miserable
Always check the Energy Rating and if there's Soundproofing.
You don't want Energy Rating F!
Estrela is going to get a Metro stop in the next expansion
I find that almost all apartments have energy rating F unless they are in brand new buildings
@@joenandamalie would you in go to Oeiras conseilho? Might have better parking options
Too far out. If we were to buy it would be around 500K where parking is usually included or at least easier to get with the apartment.
@@joenandamalie He said Oeiras Municipality....
Algés is not that far from your older house
You guys deserve 7 times the subscribers you have at least! You work very hard and are very talented. Several Portugal RUclipsrs mention you as a great channel.
At this rate with 300k you'll get a ragged tent, in someone's backyard, in Amadora haha
Haha, yup! Soon the homeless people will start offering their tents and prime location
@@joenandamalie what an unnecessary comment!
It was a joke to show the absurdity of the prices.
I loveeee watching all your videos so enjoyable. Thinking of moving from Sydney to Porto for a lifestyle change and watching all your content shows a lot of different sides to Portugal which is good for those considering to live in Portugal.
Some years ago, a remodeled 16 square m. apartment in Alfama was sold for 160.000 €.
Inflation is here. Real estate is now very expensive, but I am sure it will maintain the value over time as always. Location is key.
Yup! Prices will continue to go up
Good video guys. It is possible when interest rates rise prices may fall. However, with rising inflation…who really knows.
Thanks Ross! It’s hard to know what will happen exactly! But historically real estate is always a healthy investment
Agreed
the real estate market in portugal atm is very high in comparrison to 6 years ago.
You can’t even compare it. Prices have gone up x3-x4
Check out Joen's face when Amalia is talking about the woman who's in debt after putting all her money into the Airbnb.
It’s the face of forced positivity! Trying to find the good in the bad :)
Portugal is getting to expensive. I wouldn't trade the Algarve for Lisbon. Might get a place in the north eventually, but not in any big city.
I really LOVE Porto! It’s very cool! ❤️💙
It’s all a matter of preference. We would love a place up north too!
My country is GREAT!! 😊👍❤️
Hi guys. Good to see you are keeping well. Yes Euro300k is a lot for a studio apt but it is a sign of the times Central Banks all around the world slashed interest rates and this is the result. You cannot have an OCR around zero and avoid housing unaffordability. If you think Lisbon prices are bad don't come to Auckland! We have the world's most unaffordable housing on an income:price basis. That nice new apt at Euro300k (NZD500k) in an equivalent Auckland suburb would fly out the door in about an hour. Keep sending the videos guys I do enjoy them.
Crazy! Seems like a general theme that prices are getting so high no one can afford to buy except a small minority!
This was s interesting. I will definitely watch the other videos of this.
Thanks Serena :)
I was looking at the prices of property in Funchal and for €300K you can’t get anything good! I was shocked how expensive Funchal is.
Interesting video that gives an overview of what that kind of money can get you in Lisbon.
I must admit that I found it difficult to have any one of those apartments jumping out of my I-pad and give me the WOW feeling.However,we’re talking of an old and beautiful city and space doesn’t seem to have been an important requirement in those days. These apartments may be fine for a working couple but I doubt if they would be suitable for a family.
When I visited Lisbon in 2018,these types of apartments would have been in the vicinity of €200K,
so yes I agree that R/E has gone through the roof.
Thanks for another great video.
These days it’s very hard to find properties that give you butterflies at these prices
You are right who wants to pay $100.000 more of the normal price right now??
Not me.!!!!!!
I am not a loser!!!!!🤣😂
Yeah I love the idea for this new series of videos. This Pandemic has been a pain in the ass, but it will also create some new investment opportunities. Love your work. Keep it up.
Thanks David!
So cool you took my recommendation about the topic, and even more fun is that the apartment in Belem next to the church, I just visited 2 weeks ago, problem was the price was not really for negotiation because it was from an investment company. Ahaha how life can be. I like the format!
So funny you saw that apartment. It does look reasonably priced given location etc, but still needs fixing.
By the way, Idealists estate agents price the properties over the market value! I would try other estate agents too.
Love it! Please continue with these videos all over Portugal ❤️🇵🇹
Will do :)
@@joenandamalie thank you! ❤️👏🏻
Your passion for Real-estate is palpable!! The subtle music during the video, nice touch. Obrigadinhos:)
Absolutely loved this video. So helpful. Looking forward to seeing many more. Thank you!
Yes please more videos about buying a home in Portugal!!
22 years ago I was a student in Lisbon and on Sundays I liked to go for a walk, and at that time the 28 was empty and Baixa was a ghost town... I found it a little bit sad, as my grandmother kept saying it was a lively place when she was young...that was a time when a plane ticket within Europe was around 500€...then came the cheap flight tickets, and the tourists, and now...it's way too much! Many Portuguese (and non-Portuguese) buy flats they refurbish (but don't rebuild properly) so the flats look nice, but when you're inside for a couple of days you feel the building is old and has many problems...they clearly take advantage of the situation and ask for a week what an average Portuguese earns in a month... the result being that not many locals can afford living in the city, and Lisbon is becoming an "expat" village... well yes, Lisbon is no longer a ghost town on Sundays, but now looks like Europa Park...I don't know what it's better...but clearly when you see a drunk English-speaking girl stopping in front of your door to pee in the middle of the street...there is a problem...(it happened in Calçada do Combro, I was renting an airbnb for holiday, totally refurbished and looking brand new, but at night we could hear rats running over our heads!). Great video by the way, and for me Saldanha is still the best place to live, my grandmother has been living there for 50 years now, it's quite busy during the day, but very quite at night 😊
drunken English-speaking girls are always a problem...
Don’t worry Portugal is a great country and will recover from everything. 😃💙☀️
If there are any drunk English then they weren’t raised right.
€300 thousand Euros in Lisbon probably will get you a shed.
Looks like we are heading that way 😂
You found some cool ones! I am looking in the Algarve for that price and can only find depressing places.
Which areas are flat in Lisbon?
You mentioned so many areas...
Which ones do you recommend?
Yes, lots of mold issues here, but surprisingly, the stone homes I’ve seen don’t have any… seems to be an new construction issue..
Great episode, guys. Really good approach. But the real "soul" of the video was your insightful, helpful commentary.
Hi ! Any update on the house that you guys were going to buy in Madeira?
Coming in October
Would love to see this kind of video for Madeira, I will look forward to it!
We will do one of those!
I’ve been looking for property to buy in Funchal and omg, it is so high now. I think I’ll live there to get a feeling for the place before buying.
Excelente new series love the idea 💡
Looking forward to the next video ( especially Madeira)
Keep up the wonderful work 👌
Great video format, keep them coming!
Thanks Michael!
I am looking at at 6 to 7 months in Portugal and the rest in the States. I am trying to figure out where. Keep on making info videos.
Now it's even worse because of the inflation going on.
You'll pay double the price for a home that you've looked at a year ago.
Event rent prices are ridiculously high right now.
1 room apartment with 15m² will be 600€ which is more expensive than renting a flat in Germany (4th richest country).
That's just insane in my opinion!
Love watching properties in Portugal!
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Its getting so expensive to buy a good house in Portugal :(
Btw any updates on the Madeira House?
Very expensive but it’s the same around the entire world! We have an update video about the villa in October
Loving this kind of video!😍 More, more, more of this, please. For GV purposes and us your non-EU fans, the 500K and above price range would even be more interesting.
More will cone. We will do another with 500k!
Defenetly the flat in alcântara, even though I would like a bigger appartement. This area is so underrated, I am currently looking for buying a flat in these areas Alcântara, Campo de Ourique, Ajuda, Prazeres which are for me the best to settle with a family. You can easily take the bike and ride till Belém, the doks, museums, good schools, Monsanto parc, nightclubs and still are close to the center! Even though 300k is a lot but its still an affordable capital in Europe and one capital where you have beaches nearby, I don't think the prices will lower down. The city has been advertised quite a lot these last years, at least in France, and many people wanna go there and buy a piece of Portugal.
Nice guys but i need a car and a parking garage.
This is down to earth, but you made it fun and completely digestible! Kudos and thank you 🙏 Wonder if you will cover Cascais area since many find it as alternative to Lisbon...It will be great if you can show text when you mention the name of neighborhoods, especially your favorite ones 😍
Prices are up, everywhere!
Yup! Screw with no end!
@@joenandamalie I think they are calling it Covid pricing here. It makes absolutely NO Sense! Prices here shot up as high as 38%.
I loved all these apartments but after a decade in Hong Kong I CANNOT have upstairs neigbours ever again. Top floors only forever now.
Top floors are wonderful for rain infiltration
Just two points, 1: I live in Lisbon (Benfica) since 2011 and had never problems going around so you DON'T NEED A CAR, public transportation works great in my opinion, and 2: we have this year a lot more tourists I can see that you are far now ;) nice video anyways.
Wonderful video,guys! Very insightful. Have you thought about the Expo area?
Great idea 👌 and I look forward to more properties from around Portugal.
Thanks Edwin!
Everything you see now is good.
Bottom line not a good time to buy!!
So it is not the time to buy anything right now only rent.
All are expensive too old and needs more renovation and repairs.
By the way what the 2 different kind big houses did you buy in Madeira????
So you asked us to help you!
Did you decide?
That 2 commercial to sell that was very expensive house now no one knows where did go!
Things can change when you do things people don’t expect.
Just commercial right?
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I’m definitely sold on this series! Hopefully, others are as well🙏
Thanks Pat! More to come
Nice new series, will def keep watching! - I'm wanting to buy a place in Porto....what do you guys think is a reasonable discount/haggle percentage to try to negotiate from list price?
Thanks! In terms of haggling it all depends! How long has it been for sale? Current price contra similar properties? How much will be refurbished and so on. There really is no simple answer.
@@joenandamalie Got 7% discount in the end......sort of a win....maybe. Anyway looking forward to watching more on the channel!
Letting you know I enjoyed watching this video 😊
Thanks so much, Sara!
Yes we do like this kinda vids. Helpful as we are wanting to move there.
🙏🏼
The golden visa program in Portugal was just lowered to 350K
are you both learn portuguese?
Always
why don’t look outside lisboa for a holiday house ?
Maybe we will 😁
For 300k I’d rather get a huge house with property like 30 minutes outside of lisbon.
Would love to see more of these,good inf.
Thanks Maria! More to come :)
Please keep up this series!! I love it!!
I'm from Cascais. One of the most expensive places to live in lisbon. But 300k you can buy a nice home. Not a modern one, but still nice.
Kek... hope they don't pick Oeiras or Cascais. Shoo stay in Lisbon...
Haha 😂
Oeiras and Cascais are also expensive
"take you to the boonies" you guys English is better than most native speakers
Haha, thanks 😂
Compared to London, it’s great.
Everything is 😂
Great video. Thank you. Can you do a similar for rental?
Lisboa..................soooooo beautiful.
As always!
Can you do a vlog on property prices in Vilamoura ? Love this !!x
lol at the Carlos Matos clip
WASSAWASSAWASSAWASSA WASSUP BIIIIITCONNEEEEECT 🤣🤣🤣
Bitconeeeeeeect
Helpful information for sure. Obrigado!
What a crack of a watch right there!. Is that a Rolex Submariner?
Great you guys… it’s very interesting 💕
Thanks Madina!
Great video
Thanks!!
Well, one has to remember that you are talking asking prices and not closing prices. None of these apartments will be sold at these prices :-)
Maybe 5-10% off, but that’s it. And you can’t always expect the seller to agree to a lowered price. It’s sellers market!
@@joenandamalie Well, just watch how long they are on the market. I do real estate here and the market is not very good at the moment. Portuguese are nice people but when it comes to real estate prices they dream as they have a cousin or aunt who sold for a high price to a foreigner :-)
Well, any realtor wouldn’t set the price based on the clients dream. Has to realistic. I doubt all these apartments are priced by the actual sellers.
@@joenandamalie You have to understand that the real estate agents here, regardless of the franchise, are everything from former personal trainers to checkout staff in the supermarket. Very few have any clue about the market and the value. If you trust the asking prices and want to pay that, you will lose a lot of money. You would be a wet dream for the agents and the sellers. The latter is a good piece of advice. The art here is to negotiate for a period of time. I would not buy anything at the moment in Lisboa as the supply exceeds the demand. August has been very very bad. Thanks for your nice videos, I really enjoy them.
@@olof8100 I mean, yes, there are a lot of these realtors, but you can spot them from a mile. It really depends on the company you deal with, but sure, you can get screwed over if you don't pay attention.
People that are selling if they sell good for them!!!!
But if you want to buy now not a good deal not smart.
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Love it 💚😊
Thanks Ana!
Seriously?!? You do not need a car in Lisbon!!!! Out of touch...We have a car and it is such a hassle!!! Public transportation is where it's at!!!
Ehhh, if you just sit around in your home and only leave for work or grocery shopping, sure. But good luck going to alentejo, arrabida, costa caparica, sintra, ericeira, algarve, north, without a car 😅
We will find out....Leaving today for Alentejo! There's so much to discover in Lisbon alone and there are direct trains to places like Sintra! We will use the car when other transportation isn't available!!
@@tamaramadelin4831 Os gajos querem passear pelo país
Expat the first world word for immigrants
Tourism is getting back. It still is far from what it was, but it's much better this last weeks. After living in a gosth city one year ago i made a promisse: i would never more complain about tourism, or traffick jams, or crowds. Bring the people! For 300k it's more common to find a one bedroom apartment, and with very few outdour area. But there are some, if you don't mind to live in a condo-building.
Hehe we totally agree. Lisbon needs tourism and especially for the vibe and atmosphere. It’s so depressing when it’s empty!
" *i would never more complain about tourism, or traffick jams, or crowds* "
Really? When I went to live to the south of Portugal and came back, the only thing I realized I miss was...washing my eyes :):) (well there are more cute girls because there are more people) but dam so many people...it's too many
We are having traffic in 25 Abril Bridge in AUGUST .....AUGUUST ?!?!?!?!?!
And this is also because of breaking holidays, 20 years ago the majorities of the companies used to close in August... now a lot of them don't
Before the booming of tourism August it was a wonderful month to be in Lisbon... you could find parking everywhere... driving was wonderful :):):)
Love the one @ 5:55, would be perfect for an introverted couple with no kids =) All priced too high, that's why I don't like inner-city living
Could you tell the exact price for every place? Some seem to be below 300K and some above
Links in description
This was s interesting. I will definitely watch the other videos of this.
It’s obvious that you guys are loaded,are you guys some kind of influencers?
Wouldn’t say loaded. We work hard and are comfortable as a result.
@@joenandamalie with all due respect,Loaded!
@@joenandamalie you so young and you worked hard? What age did you start to work ? 2 years old? Or you are in the liberal arts somehow!
Plural is “have” not “has” . The prices have come down, not “has” come down. I never said anything, but now I did, I feel better, lol. It takes a special person to make a small space functional. All these spaces are for appearance but not functional even for short airbnb visits. How many times did I have to struggle with lack of space for my food or where to place hairdryer in these Airbnbs because the Airbnb owners did have too much decor or too much stuff in cabinets or shelves full of decor. I don’t care for Airbnb decor, I find it intrusive, give me a clean, empty space that I can use for my needs.
It's "Airbnb owners had too much" instead of "Airbnb owners did have too much".
" *I don’t care for Airbnb decor, I find it intrusive, give me a clean, empty space that I can use for my needs* "
How much beds do you need?
Love this video. Thank you. P.S. More...More... More.
Thanks, more to come :)
Why would you remove a natural wood floor? That makes no sense.Prices are super expensive in Lisbon but all major cities are the same way. I would look for something outside of the city near the coast if it was me.
Who is going to remove a natural wood floor?
When they say that?
@@lxportugal9343 They said so in the video to replace it with tile.
@@anneofgreengables1619 I saw an American couple removing a granite kitchen counter !!!!!!??? GO figure
More...they replace it with a wooden counter!!!!!!!!!!!!! wood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hi Brian
Hey guys! Lovely apartments. I intend to buy one in Lisbon next year, if possible!
Thanks Rui! Good luck on your real estate adventure!
Very nice video!!!!
If it were my own personal apt. decision, and it will be, I would Bump up the price to at least 500K: maybe 650K.
Agree. You do get a lot more, but obviously also pay twice 🤣
Nice job.
Thanks Rob!
I think its becoming too edgy to put half a million in 80sqm apartments. Its either 700k on new builds T2 or crossing the river to a gated community for 600k 270sqm 4 rooms and a pool lol
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Bitconeeeeect!!!
I would never buy if buildings is all I wake up to...got to have many trees, greenery. Dont like any of these.
Interesting info.video.👍
Please stay on an island 🏝 and continue with the horseback riding lessons. 🐎 😬😆
Lol
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8:27 "E tu e eu o que é que temos que fazer?"
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“Até logo” “lógo”.. not “légo”… please!!!! 🤯🤯😂
I think they say "lego" as a running joke because they're Danish. They know it's "até logo"
@@MasterOfNone13 yes I’ve probably missed something at some point 😅 It’s just every time I hear it I can’t help but think…. Whyyyyy?! 😂
Bica, tem muito drogado addition
u guys keep cutting each other off in yr commentary. Quite irritating. Hope u guys improve.