How to Hire a Geisha

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  • Опубликовано: 9 окт 2016
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Комментарии • 2,8 тыс.

  • @PhoenixoftheGays
    @PhoenixoftheGays 5 лет назад +4567

    "Give us a manly pose"
    Jun: Thumbs up

  • @RachelandJun
    @RachelandJun  7 лет назад +4588

    Fun fact: Nanoha-san said they sometimes use bowls the size of the one at 9:52 for the sake game. RIP whoever loses

    • @Syrephine
      @Syrephine 7 лет назад +89

      wholly cow I would have to pass on that one. Cause I really don't drink and i would probably be toast after the first one. lol
      i remember reading about her in an article. this was so cool, I was like scared Jun was going to rip his jeans having to do the splits almost with that game.

    • @nataliapapadaki3148
      @nataliapapadaki3148 7 лет назад +52

      That's crazy! I would be done for the night if I had to drink that one (I'm 5ft) :P
      Do they get trained in drinking as well? I can imagine a geisha having to hold her liquor well if she is playing drinking games - especially if she is the only one at the banquet?

    • @syka27
      @syka27 7 лет назад +17

      +Rachel & Jun It sounds like as if every time you speak Japanese you have a whole different voice..idk if that's just me 😆

    • @bns481
      @bns481 7 лет назад +27

      It sounds like a big group would be so much fun for a wild party! (especially with that size bowl for the game X_X)

    • @ChrisR.62
      @ChrisR.62 7 лет назад +29

      +A k a n e_Cakes Yes, it does have a different tone. I once read that we have a slightly different tone/pitch for every language we speak. The more fluent you are, the more obvious it will be.

  • @AskForDoodles
    @AskForDoodles 5 лет назад +9240

    What I expected: Sitting all proper, pouring tea and doing poetry.
    What I did NOT expect: "WAT UP LOSERS, TIME FOR SOME HARDCORE DRINKING GAMES!!!"

    • @jobansand
      @jobansand 5 лет назад +183

      How were those hardcore drinking games? They were all so quiet and composed, no one was getting drunk at all.

    • @oosajee
      @oosajee 5 лет назад +679

      I've been invited to a Japanese banquet with two geikos (geisha in Kyoto) and I can tell you, people were getting shitfaced and the Geikos weren't exactly sober either. Great food, and extremely fun.

    • @conorq4611
      @conorq4611 5 лет назад +20

      I expected that as well

    • @EightTobiins
      @EightTobiins 5 лет назад +19

      reading memoirs of a geisha was a similar experience for me!

    • @skoolie_life3261
      @skoolie_life3261 5 лет назад +2

      Same

  • @fish_doggo2948
    @fish_doggo2948 4 года назад +3601

    So they just politely get drunk with tradition.

    • @Ava-cw3jf
      @Ava-cw3jf 4 года назад +38

      Fish_ Doggo i really want to like, but the comment has 420 likes. sorry, maybe next time. here’s my like 👍

    • @Ava-cw3jf
      @Ava-cw3jf 3 года назад +14

      right the comment has 500 likes now

    • @muiaaa5052
      @muiaaa5052 3 года назад +2

      @@Ava-cw3jf 550

    • @Ava-cw3jf
      @Ava-cw3jf 3 года назад +2

      Gäxhä 557

    • @muiaaa5052
      @muiaaa5052 3 года назад +2

      @@Ava-cw3jf :o

  • @rocknroll3381
    @rocknroll3381 7 лет назад +4335

    What I find so fascinating about Japan is how they are both so deeply rooted in tradition while still being so advanced and developed.

    • @Gavin-oq5nl
      @Gavin-oq5nl 5 лет назад +12

      rockNroll wow this has no comments? For how many likes it has???

    • @jasmynteo7058
      @jasmynteo7058 5 лет назад +39

      Toxic2Venom because it’s so true, and everyone knows it. So nobody has a comment 😂

    • @collenyt9243
      @collenyt9243 5 лет назад +3

      The festivals in Kyoto is so cool!

    • @Balthazar2242
      @Balthazar2242 5 лет назад +59

      Japan advanced very quickly from a "tribal" (for lack of a different word) society to a modern one. Western countries had a whole series of eras leading us into the Industrial Revolution and onward, while Japan went from being a very simple and ancient type of society straight into WWII and beyond. So they way I see it, they're a lot closer to their roots than we are and took less steps from there to here.

    • @TOM-ph7xy
      @TOM-ph7xy 5 лет назад +4

      no roots no identity. a great culture with a lot of roots and the flexibility into the future

  • @gyqz
    @gyqz 6 лет назад +8739

    I so love that this video made clear that a Geisha is not a prostitute as is believed in most western countries.
    A Geisha is a highly trained person of the arts of music, dance, poetry and respectful entertainment.

    • @mcrosemasters3060
      @mcrosemasters3060 5 лет назад +492

      @@ethiopiansunztv actually most are not. Even in the past they weren't really prostitutes. They could become kept women by one man. Who would usually pay for classes, gifts, komino, rent and things like that. But true geshia dont just sleep with anyone for money. It was/is a whole process that had a ceremony that was performed before it would begin. And the geshia and her danta(not sure if I spelled that right) would be tied by that ceremony for life.

    • @DembaiVT
      @DembaiVT 5 лет назад +467

      @@ethiopiansunztv they're entertainers you shitlord.

    • @crazy3ightss1
      @crazy3ightss1 5 лет назад +563

      ​@@ethiopiansunztv Geisha's are not prostitutes they're hostess trained in the arts to entertain people with conversation, dance, and singing... What you're thinking of is the Oiran which is the prostitute counterpart of the Geishas, they're similar in having to learn crafts, arts and be classy like a Geisha but they make their money off by prostitution and entertainment. They might look like Geishas but their wardrobe is more elaborate and colorful to attract attention and the higher class Oiran gets to choose their customer and takes 3 meetings for the Oiran to decide if they want to lend their service to the customer or not... Back in the Edo period the Oiran's were literally celebrities, whenever they get a call from a worthy customer (that needs to be wealthy) they walk over with their group that consists of kamuros and shinzous, which are people who do chores and take care of the Oiran. The banned of prostitution started in 1958 which lead the Oiran profession to die off but the art of the Geisha profession still lives on since they're not prostitutes.

    • @ethiopiansunztv
      @ethiopiansunztv 5 лет назад +22

      @@DembaiVT yes adult entertainers. Your insult doesn't change that.

    • @ethiopiansunztv
      @ethiopiansunztv 5 лет назад +18

      @@crazy3ightss1 just like in now times top ranking women are reserved for wealthier or powerful men. Geisha were reserved women the others were lower ranking. Nothing new under the sun.

  • @brianwinchester8954
    @brianwinchester8954 4 года назад +317

    May kimicho find happiness in her new job/profession and lets home the bullies get a kick in the butt by karma.

    • @marcuspage2026
      @marcuspage2026 3 года назад +5

      Do you know what she’s doing now?

  • @saku577
    @saku577 5 лет назад +2670

    I'm so sorry for Kimicho. She got bullied out of her job.

    • @Gikarin.Gamemaster
      @Gikarin.Gamemaster 5 лет назад +35

      ?

    • @nadhilaibrahim5158
      @nadhilaibrahim5158 5 лет назад +98

      @@Gikarin.Gamemaster she was bullied and left

    • @oliviarose3513
      @oliviarose3513 5 лет назад +284

      Not bullied: racially harassed.

    • @Rubiecat
      @Rubiecat 4 года назад +581

      @@oliviarose3513 The abuser was another white woman and her followers so no she was not racially harassed, she was bullied.

    • @taylorsheppard6924
      @taylorsheppard6924 4 года назад +239

      Kimicho was the true western geisha. Fiona Graham was a fraud.

  • @RachelBanaria
    @RachelBanaria 6 лет назад +2903

    It's too bad she was bullied out of the profession, I hope she finds happiness wherever she is now.

    • @ISS600
      @ISS600 6 лет назад +23

      kimicho

    • @marsonsaturn
      @marsonsaturn 6 лет назад +60

      anythingnew why? How??

    • @monkeymaann
      @monkeymaann 5 лет назад +44

      @anythingnew Oh no, I need to read her news :(

    • @Charharr
      @Charharr 5 лет назад +801

      'Kimichou recently retired. She was systematically bullied and harrassed by Fiona Graham (who advertises herself as “Sayuki - the first/only western Geisha”) and people who believe/follow her and since most of the bullying happened online, her okaasan and sisters couldn’t do much to help her. She couldn’t handle it anymore and left'

    • @vamppanic
      @vamppanic 5 лет назад +199

      i just googled her and found she is not only from my country but my city. fuck her.

  • @Edward_Avila
    @Edward_Avila 7 лет назад +4337

    Omg this was so fun and interesting to watch

  • @Nationaliberty
    @Nationaliberty 5 лет назад +834

    She sounds like a fusion between an old lady trying to sell you something and a really cute anime girl

  • @KultAmerica
    @KultAmerica 7 лет назад +1848

    wow, I knew about geishas only from books, but I could not imagine them being like this! they are art

    • @arieldanielle23
      @arieldanielle23 6 лет назад +45

      The literal translation of a Geisha or geiko is something like "art person". They are highly trained not only to engage their customers but to play instruments and dance almost flawlessly. I highly recommend reading "Geisha: A Life" which is the true memoir that inspired the book and movie Memoirs of a Geisha.

    • @moushimoushi8963
      @moushimoushi8963 3 года назад +11

      @@arieldanielle23 just a quick correction, memoirs of a geisha wasn't inspired by geisha a life, geisha a life was written by the geiko that Arthur Golden interviewed for memoirs of a geisha. The geiko, mineko iwasaki was so disgusted by how much Arthur Golden perverted her story and the profession she loved so much that she wrote her own memoir to set the record straight and tried to undo some old the damage that Arthur Golden caused to the profession

  • @crystal.matter
    @crystal.matter 7 лет назад +2924

    So basically everyone gets drunk in a classy traditional way. Fun! :D

    • @fckstreetshitters4294
      @fckstreetshitters4294 5 лет назад +1

      i wanna bang a white geisha

    • @Angie.Globetrotter
      @Angie.Globetrotter 5 лет назад +16

      @@uzbek1988 no you can't they are no whores

    • @ytknucklejerk
      @ytknucklejerk 4 года назад +8

      @@fckstreetshitters4294 What. The. Fuck. Not one asked for that, man.

    • @Spacie.AnnaMaria
      @Spacie.AnnaMaria 4 года назад +1

      Geisha are not prostitutes 😂 jeezus people

    • @jaimeeyeoh5218
      @jaimeeyeoh5218 4 года назад +3

      @@uzbek1988 no, you cant. actually doing 'it' with a geisha sort of ruins their reputation so they avoid ever doing it. if you want more information abt being a geisha, a really good book is 'memoirs of a geisha' it's a fictional story but with all true facts :D its a really good book that gives you almost all your answers haha

  • @Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice
    @Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice 6 лет назад +318

    I love that they're like, professional "life of the party" people. Like a professional extrovert. I love that.

  • @taylorcooper4046
    @taylorcooper4046 4 года назад +35

    The Rock Paper Scissors split game is genius. And I love the way you hype up the person who has to drink instead of making them feel punished. “Being brave” or “being cool” sounds way better than “you suck at this, drink!”

  • @ashketchum1377
    @ashketchum1377 7 лет назад +1746

    Im awkward af so i just imagine being at a small party with one geisha would be thr most awkward experience ever

    • @Xelann
      @Xelann 7 лет назад +4

      Claymore is my favorite manga/anime!

    • @ashketchum1377
      @ashketchum1377 7 лет назад

      Xel An same ! :-)

    • @coolhandnick3623
      @coolhandnick3623 7 лет назад +3

      Quick-Sword Ilena i knowww right

    • @serinad9434
      @serinad9434 7 лет назад +151

      Quick-Sword Ilena That's the job of the geisha, to make you feel comfortable and help you enjoy yourself. If you were all feeling awkward, she wouldn't be doing her job!

    • @drunkwiizard3483
      @drunkwiizard3483 7 лет назад +111

      I feel like that's just impossible with some people, at least in certain situations though haha. Someone with really bad social anxiety will just never really feel comfortable outside their own home. At no fault to the Geisha. That's just my two cents though as I am someone who is only presuming, since I don't have extreme social anxiety and have never experienced a geisha! =)

  • @pklc71
    @pklc71 7 лет назад +1442

    I think it is so amazing how Japan has kept with some of its older traditions while becoming extremely modern at the same time. I really hope the art of Geisha's stays around. They seem so talented and graceful. Simply amazing. Thank you for the special look into the Geisha experience.

    • @MObar
      @MObar 7 лет назад +34

      Lauren Curton Japan is not nearly as modern as you would think...the nice toilets hide a lot of issues they have like sexism, a lack of job creation and innovation which are hurting their economy tremendously. Much of this stems from traditional values they have which have not modernized. Japanese culture has some great qualities but you never see a lot of the negatives in vloggers videos. Just saying.

    • @pklc71
      @pklc71 7 лет назад +49

      Lunchbox I have no doubt Japan has its negative side, but Japan is the only country to have been westernized without losing its sense of self. Again, I have no doubt it has its bad side. What country doesn't? But as a U.S citizen I don't see a whole lot of instances where an older tradition is kept and maintained for so long. Also, there are plenty of bloggers out there and some do in fact show the less popular side of the countries they live in. RUclips is vast, if you want to find it you can. But why go out of your way to find something bad? Now turning to the youtubers of the video; Rachel and Jun do a fantastic job sharing Japanese culture and in some of their videos they go into what you may see as the bad side of Japan. But rather than focusing on making people try to see the bad side of something. Enjoy the piece of culture they are sharing and be positive to those who are trying to appreciate it from far away.

    • @dileshperera4252
      @dileshperera4252 7 лет назад +2

      Lauren Curton Japan and even Singapore have both kept their cultures whilst also being modern and fully developed

    • @j134679
      @j134679 7 лет назад +18

      singapore has its own culture?

    • @reaneechua9297
      @reaneechua9297 7 лет назад +11

      BTS ARMY Recruiter #5501 excuse you i have culture!! look at all the bacteria growing 😂

  • @thanse3543
    @thanse3543 5 лет назад +992

    Imagine a geisha trying to cheer up some depressed young people

    • @Misstimuli
      @Misstimuli 5 лет назад +6

      LOOOOVE YOUR DP!!!

    • @DBT1007
      @DBT1007 3 года назад +17

      Vtuber culture is the answer. But the difference is.. You can't meet them physically. But vtuber idols/streamer can reach more customers/audiences.
      Both selling their voice, talk, and other skill like dance and even maybe drawing. And also play game of course.
      And most of them avoiding the sexual service. Yeah most. Because few of them also can do sexual service(s) for extra tips.
      And they got paid because they doing these thing.

    • @devara2055
      @devara2055 3 года назад +3

      @@DBT1007 *_cough_* marine

    • @KAJones-pd7pq
      @KAJones-pd7pq 3 года назад +3

      I know this is late but, Elias Ainsworth!
      Sorry, I kinda am slightly obsessed with The Ancient Magus' Bride. So I'm quite happy to see other people who knows the show.

    • @siegbraud4658
      @siegbraud4658 3 года назад +1

      Looks scary yea

  • @DoofusMonkey
    @DoofusMonkey 4 года назад +298

    "Can you do a manly pose?"
    *Does cute animeboy thumbs up*

  • @RachelandJun
    @RachelandJun  7 лет назад +1438

    Thank you to whoever submitted the Thai subtitles!!

  • @ktellusastory1403
    @ktellusastory1403 6 лет назад +1275

    It is so so upsetting that Kimicho san has now retired. I would have loved to meet her when I go to Japan next year. It is still my dream to party with geisha!

    • @panigbrowardcollege
      @panigbrowardcollege 4 года назад +91

      ktellusastory Kimicho was harassed and bullied out of her job actually

    • @sandragamal8727
      @sandragamal8727 4 года назад +13

      @@panigbrowardcollege what happened ?

    • @jarosh9612
      @jarosh9612 4 года назад +128

      @@sandragamal8727 got bullied by Fiona Graham, a con artist who wanted to be the only foreign geisha.

    • @stormnchill
      @stormnchill 3 года назад +17

      Ally Miku that’s so awful i hope she is okay

    • @mypuggames4296
      @mypuggames4296 3 года назад +4

      question how was your trip

  • @quenniesabanal8306
    @quenniesabanal8306 3 года назад +42

    Geishas are living arts. It's sad that the industry is smaller now but it's great to see their effortd along with tbe help of their government to keeo this culture alive. They're amazing and the perfect hostess. They will adapt their personalities depending on their clients' needs and that's not easy but they do amazingly in the aspect.

  • @doridot
    @doridot 5 лет назад +242

    Geisha: Could you give us a manly pose?
    Me: *ゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴ*

  • @RachelandJun
    @RachelandJun  7 лет назад +1795

    Thank you so much to Kimicho-san and Nanoha-san for making this video possible! I met Kimicho a year ago and she's been helping me create videos that delve into the world of geisha. We're working on more, so if you have any questions for Kimicho please leave them in the comments!
    We all know ABOUT geisha but not many people really think about how they're still working and what they do, so we're so happy and excited that we could finally have this experience and get a glimpse into this mysterious world. This was so far our most expensive video we've filmed, and it's not even the main video we're working on, so thank you to everyone on Patreon for supporting us and making videos like this possible!
    Links for hiring a geisha:
    Yoshinoya ► yoshinoya-geigi.com/en/
    Traveler website ► japanawaits.com/geisha-experience/
    Kimicho ♥ instagram.com/yoshinoya_kimicho

    • @TheCeska90
      @TheCeska90 7 лет назад +26

      I still think that geishas are so much of an elite and so hard to be seein around (cause most of those "geisha" that let tourist take pictures usually are not real geisha), to me they are like a fairy tale (in a good way, i like the mistery aura around them)

    • @BK02027
      @BK02027 7 лет назад +67

      I would love to know about Kimicho-san's experience as a westerner in an industry that doesn't see westerners typically. I'd love to know how the process of becoming a geisha started for her, and how customers and co-workers reacted to her.
      I respect geishas so much. They can be so elegant, and move so smoothly while dancing.

    • @saladbattery
      @saladbattery 7 лет назад +7

      She has an interview on tumblr (with geisha-kai I think) and her (public) instagram is yoshinoya_kimicho - you can learn more about her there :)

    • @Averzaath
      @Averzaath 7 лет назад +17

      Okay, I have a question and this is a little confusing to me I must say.One of the first things I heard about Japan was no tips, ever. Not in a restaurant, not a taxi driver etc.
      So why tip a geisha, why is it accepted and expected?
      (any other (non-geisha related) instances were you should tip in Japan?)

    • @saladbattery
      @saladbattery 7 лет назад

      Just search "geisha kai kimicho" on google and you'll find it. She also has another interview with a travel blogger, I think named Aileen. You can also find it through google.

  • @larsstoerloes6619
    @larsstoerloes6619 7 лет назад +613

    I've seen a lot of people on the web commenting that traditional geisha dancing is too simplistic and doesn't seem like much effort. That is an incredible insult to both geishas and dancers. Take this lady for example. Look at what she is wearing. Those are yards and yards of fabric, heavy makeup, hair and accessories. As a dancer myself who has performed in similarly ristrictive costumes and gear I can honestly tell you when you're wearing that much stuff on your body, no matter how loose fitting or well made it is it is complicated, constricting and incredibly hard to do even the simplest of choreographies in such attire. Geishas - and dancers deserve MUCH respect. I mainly work here in the west, so I don't know the attitude towards dancers in Japan, but here sadly we are often put aside. Especially if we are part of a bigger performance where there are singers and actors or the like involved. We are always the ones with the longest days because we have to attend at a certain time, but usually the actors or musicians rehearsals go WAY over that and we are sort of given the scraps of time that are left. It is hard to be able to perform and learn and do your very best when you have already spent most of your day waiting, not knowing when it will be your time to work, and still trying to keep warm and limber. Dance as a profession definitely deserves more respect than it gets. The work is hard, the hours awful and the pay dreadful.

    • @kme
      @kme 6 лет назад +43

      Lars Stoerloes not just that, but there's also the body control to be able to move like that period, nvm with all the kimono and accessories, without falling over. I'm a folk dancer, and moving like that is not as easy as people think.

    • @ohmyeffingblackpink8396
      @ohmyeffingblackpink8396 6 лет назад +11

      KM E True. I danced japanese folk dance a few times 'Soran Bushi,' and even though the movement is different and much more noticeable, I still fine the dance itself very hard (One, I wasn't a dancer from the start. Two, it needs to 'feel' a certain way which I had to practice hard to get it almost right. The uncle who watch the training always did it sooooo much better than us.

    • @11Choctaw11
      @11Choctaw11 6 лет назад +10

      Lars Stoerloes Agree. just wearing a casual kimono and walking with it isn't a comfortable experience. don't get me wrong, kimonos are incredibly beautiful but they are also painful to wear. just the wear up process itself is a real challenge. plus here she has a wig/special hairstyle. So dancing with all these elements must be really hard.

    • @aurazero0
      @aurazero0 6 лет назад +7

      The dancing actually seems difficult to me; obviously needs a lot of control, technique, and precision.

    • @eLJaybud
      @eLJaybud 6 лет назад +11

      If they complain that it is too simplistic that is because they do not understand.

  • @littledebhehe1685
    @littledebhehe1685 3 года назад +197

    “The Geisha will sit next to customers and start conversations”
    Me: *anti social* 😅

    • @honeylenfannon5692
      @honeylenfannon5692 3 года назад +3

      Relate but i want someone to talk with

    • @arinrumi
      @arinrumi 3 года назад +9

      I heard Geisha has the tricks to make even the most anti social client became the party clown. So I guess that means there's nothing to worry about.

    • @20PINKluvr
      @20PINKluvr 2 года назад

      @@arinrumi I did read mineko iwasakis biography and she mentions this

  • @nicoleikigai_
    @nicoleikigai_ 5 лет назад +628

    Can’t believe Kimicho retired from the profession because of Fiona Graham bullying...

    • @orange_leaf4913
      @orange_leaf4913 5 лет назад +14

      why she(Fiona) do that :(

    • @Invoilabilis
      @Invoilabilis 4 года назад +69

      Because in north America even if there is no offense to be found.
      We will be offended for you

    • @thoughtsand_flaws2494
      @thoughtsand_flaws2494 4 года назад +77

      She did that to Kimicho ? Why ? Kimicho is lovely and good at creating a nice mood and energy. (And Nanoha is cute both in looks and ways if I could ever afford it I would LOVE to hire them both). If japanese have no problems with it why should that woman have it ??? Kimicho you are good at this . As long as YOU want to do it, you should.

    • @Lolibeth
      @Lolibeth 4 года назад +92

      @@orange_leaf4913 Because Fiona as built her brand around being ~the only white geisha~ which loses its appeal and validity if she's not. And she's an asshole who practices tax fraud but not her music.

    • @superp2222
      @superp2222 4 года назад +36

      Just read into the entire case... It sucks that someone who was jealous of someone else who had what they didn't resorted to such a morally disgusting method.

  • @____5t
    @____5t 7 лет назад +566

    rename the video to "getting lit with a geisha"

  • @Amanda1234558
    @Amanda1234558 7 лет назад +120

    Geisha: Jun do something manly!
    Jun: THUMBS UP

  • @marianavaughan6836
    @marianavaughan6836 4 года назад +104

    I will now play the Rock Paper Scissors game with my friends and tear their hip and groin muscles

  • @DJFelixChester
    @DJFelixChester 5 лет назад +2428

    Americans: No cultural appropriation! Reerr!
    Japanese Geisha House: We'd love to have a white woman Geisha who speaks English! That widens our customer base and makes this fun cultural experience more accessible! YAY!!!

    • @vortexastar193
      @vortexastar193 5 лет назад +340

      Cultural appropriation is when you basically mimick something from a culture, and act like you do it better (wear it better, make it better, ect) or make it only acceptable for you to do it. For example, white washing Native Americans and stripping them of their land, culture, and rights, but then wearing a Native American headdress to Coachella.

    • @Kairos_Akuma
      @Kairos_Akuma 5 лет назад +130

      @@vortexastar193 Yes but unfortunately anything is often vewed as this - theres a Video here where some American-Asians said that Foreigners wearing Kimono is Cultural Appropriation, for example.
      The term is sooo missused these days.

    • @PoutineProductions
      @PoutineProductions 5 лет назад +52

      @@Kairos_Akuma I do believe wearing a culture as a cosplay to a convention (and it's not even a character), halloween costume, as a joke, or even as lingerie (although fetishism exists) is very disrespectful.

    • @kathleennorton6108
      @kathleennorton6108 5 лет назад +45

      @R O You can find a respectful way of getting your point across without calling someone an idiot. It makes you seem callous and mean, rather than helpful. Love is kind. Love is King.

    • @ripnecco5477
      @ripnecco5477 5 лет назад +29

      Japanese-americans have a different cultural experience than native-born Japanese people

  • @kanaekeiko
    @kanaekeiko 7 лет назад +899

    LOL I thought the geisha left via the closet hahahah

    • @RachelandJun
      @RachelandJun  7 лет назад +434

      HAHA that would've been hilarious

    • @NicoleSelvaggio
      @NicoleSelvaggio 7 лет назад +156

      I was thinking Narnia

    • @moonflower5768
      @moonflower5768 6 лет назад +8

      Lol she just retreats to her closet after dinner 😂😂😂😂

  • @PrometheusV2
    @PrometheusV2 7 лет назад +574

    I LAUGHED SO MUCH WHEN JUN LOST
    I'M GOING TO HELL, I'M SORRY

    • @OTL508
      @OTL508 7 лет назад +44

      PrometheusV2 LOLOLOL I LAUGHED AO HARD TOO! The angle just makes him look SOOOO long! That he might hit the width of the room LOL

    • @TheDevilik
      @TheDevilik 5 лет назад +1

      He's so cute

    • @Time4aKiss
      @Time4aKiss Месяц назад

      Shame on you for making fun of him

  • @xKagryx
    @xKagryx 5 лет назад +62

    Nanoha has a lovely, soft speaking voice. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, Nanoha!

  • @l.v1473
    @l.v1473 5 лет назад +180

    Dude this is just a formal drinking party😂

  • @danitiwa
    @danitiwa 6 лет назад +449

    Jun is legitimately hilarious and charming, and so much goofier than I expected

  • @Silverqueen178
    @Silverqueen178 6 лет назад +1493

    Kimicho just barely left the profession due to harassment and bullying from the pretender and fraud Fiona Graham :( so unfortunate. Lost a truly inspirational and talented geiko.

    • @TheDevilik
      @TheDevilik 5 лет назад +4

      :(

    • @erinshipinski7332
      @erinshipinski7332 5 лет назад +12

      Please tell me more

    • @yumicoyamamoto7832
      @yumicoyamamoto7832 5 лет назад +41

      @@erinshipinski7332 theres quite a lot about it on the internet it would be to long explaining it here

    • @Mergirl97
      @Mergirl97 5 лет назад +11

      Just Google Kimicho and you'll find tons of stuff

    • @massalleh5255
      @massalleh5255 5 лет назад +18

      @Abigail Moer geimei.tumblr.com/post/165064917960/you-know-anything-about-kimicho-she-deleted-all

  • @veseliuandreeairina7572
    @veseliuandreeairina7572 5 лет назад +149

    I'm really surprised by the fact that you have Romanian subtitles. I am able to understand english pretty well, but I would like to thank you for them. 🙂 Anyway, keep up the good work.

  • @Beachapeeater
    @Beachapeeater 6 лет назад +97

    *Do you want to see Jun do something manly?!*. That song made me lol.

  • @MyKoreanHusband
    @MyKoreanHusband 7 лет назад +736

    Wow this is super interesting! It's great that you could make a video about this. Especially since there are so many misconceptions about geishas, especially in western culture.

    • @RachelandJun
      @RachelandJun  7 лет назад +42

      It's been so long since I came to Japan I totally forgot about those misconceptions! Yeah, hopefully we can help dispel some of that, haha

    • @quintrankid8045
      @quintrankid8045 7 лет назад

      +Thor Harald Johansen Is that the entire reason? I thought that at one time geisha were part of The Floating World, and may have acquired this reputation through a misapprehension of the association.

    • @alexanderchristopher6237
      @alexanderchristopher6237 4 года назад

      Thor Harald Johansen Even if it was real geishas they met, can’t really blame the GIs to think they’re prostitutes. Imagine being a young American soldier, haven’t been farther than their own town until recently and very much alone, when you saw one of these beautiful foreign ladies in makeup. Definitely prostitutes, that’s what they’ll think.

  • @nervclax7458
    @nervclax7458 7 лет назад +67

    I love the concept of the geisha. She is the ultimate host and MC. They can sing, dance, play instruments, facilitate conversation, play games, serve clients... everything!
    How cool would it be to have a small wedding with a few geisha hosting the reception rather than the usual annoying DJ? Far more memorable.

  • @Bergenfluff
    @Bergenfluff 5 лет назад +26

    I think this is so wonderful to watch in such a natural setting. I love the ancient traditions and adherence to etiquette the Japanese retain. It is very much a dying thing in the west.
    Also, if you ever go to Japan and wish to have a geisha party, make sure of your proncouciation :D For the purpose of this history lesson I'll make it a little colorfull.
    Geisha (correctly pronounced Gay-sha (because they're fabulous)) are traditionally a dinner companion/entertainer in the japanese arts.
    If you pronounce it Gee-sha, like many westerners do, it can be taken as you being extremely rude, or that your wish is for a more "adult" form of entertainment.
    The difference comes from the allied temporary administration period after the war, when young, male soldiers might go on shoreleave and be feeling a little frisky. Spesific houses were set up for them to visit, but staffed by females offering a Geisha experience that had nothing to do with what the Geisha actually do. The name for "that" sort of house came to be known as Geesha houses because it was the more natural way for americans to say the word.

  • @AureliusR
    @AureliusR 5 лет назад +25

    I absolutely LOVE the sound of the shamisen!

  • @KaiseaWings
    @KaiseaWings 7 лет назад +505

    I love that they're allowing foreigners to become geisha. The thought of that happening is fascinating to me as Japan does tend to be a very closed culture and there are so many ways you could accidentally be disrespectful or end up treating their culture like a game. But I love that things are opening up more.

    • @zerotodona1495
      @zerotodona1495 7 лет назад +14

      Maybe if you become a full Japanese citizen, it is more accepting?

    • @amonrei
      @amonrei 6 лет назад +65

      Culture appropriation is nonsense. I think any culture will be accepting if a foreigner would like to learn their culture no matter how closed they seem.

    • @joevile240
      @joevile240 5 лет назад +89

      "Cultural appropriation" seems only to be "problematic" in the US.

    • @ritzypoo7770
      @ritzypoo7770 5 лет назад +7

      @@joevile240
      As an American, there's a huge line between being racist and what some may call "cultural appropriation". It's ridiculous knowing how much shit we say to try to "help defend" other countries.

    • @Kingdomhearts1109
      @Kingdomhearts1109 5 лет назад +25

      Shazley Sahib You’re talking about cultural appreciation lol. Cultural appropriation is taking things from a certain culture and rebranding it as your own original idea or misusing certain aspects of the culture (for example, using EATING chopsticks in your hair). Cultural appreciation is always welcoming!! Cultural appropriation is definitely not.

  • @tnyv4046
    @tnyv4046 7 лет назад +230

    I really really like the way Nanoha and Kimicho talk, it sound so melodious...

  • @psmayaps
    @psmayaps 6 лет назад +134

    that manly pose though 😂😂 as an american i love how he didn't buff up or show his muscles or anything, he just did an anime protagonist pose 😂👌

  • @stefaniasmith40
    @stefaniasmith40 4 года назад +29

    It's hilarious how jun is so tall that he is almost towering over that geisha

  • @_aiko020
    @_aiko020 7 лет назад +414

    just wondering how the geishas are supposed to do those middle splits with kimono's on when they play "jan kan po!" ??

    • @sarahsabrina4881
      @sarahsabrina4881 5 лет назад +16

      They usually concede after a certain point, to amuse the guests instead. ^^

    • @scottwpilgrim
      @scottwpilgrim 5 лет назад +38

      @@sarahsabrina4881 Yes! And then they do the drink instead of the client. I've seen a really good geisha pretend to fall to the amusement of my friend, but the clever girl made him feel sorry so he drank anyways! It was a great party. I should go back to Japan soon. Le sigh!

    • @sarahsabrina4881
      @sarahsabrina4881 5 лет назад +26

      @@scottwpilgrim ah, geishas and their tricks. 😂 It really amuses me how they can toss and turn a party of awkward guests into a wild night out. They're quite the amazing kind!

    • @basicroots8278
      @basicroots8278 5 лет назад +3

      thats how they train themselves not to lose

  • @rayrevolta6198
    @rayrevolta6198 7 лет назад +220

    I would truly love to visit Japan.

    • @DrSid42
      @DrSid42 7 лет назад

      What keeps you ?

    • @fuckyoutubehandles903
      @fuckyoutubehandles903 7 лет назад +28

      +DrSid42 Money 😅

    • @jason4275
      @jason4275 7 лет назад +13

      That's the goal of every human on earth, to travel the world, but it's money that always gets in our way, for the average American like myself, the biggest problem with going on vacation is the fact, that your even more broke, after you return home from vacation, for most Americans even taking a vacation at home with pay, you still end up losing more money than actual working those paid vacation hours.

    • @KiraHunter2310
      @KiraHunter2310 7 лет назад +5

      Not everyone wishes to travel the world.

    • @midnight15086
      @midnight15086 7 лет назад +28

      That's what money is for though, to enjoy yourself. Lots of people work those extra hours and take no vacation and what do they have for it. You won't say at your deathbed "Gee I wish I'd spend more hours at work."

  • @aaronmartin1803
    @aaronmartin1803 5 лет назад +23

    10:08
    Going to your friend/partners home and leaving for the first time like...

  • @achmadzainulabrorialfahmi37
    @achmadzainulabrorialfahmi37 5 лет назад +50

    Geisha: show us manly pose!
    Me: *DOES PILLARMEN'S POSE*

  • @cheezewheel
    @cheezewheel 7 лет назад +369

    So there are times when you tip in Japan. I wonder if there's any other time that tips are expected.

    • @kiwisocks
      @kiwisocks 7 лет назад +19

      Thank you for the information!

    • @MikeNaples
      @MikeNaples 7 лет назад +8

      The gratuitity caught me off guard too since I have read it's near an insult to tip in Japan. I tried to tip a taxi driver in Hong Kong two years ago and the driver seemed confused if not disgusted. My wife explained it to him and though he accepted the tip did not seem happy.

    • @chianele
      @chianele 7 лет назад +23

      +mike naples In Hong Kong if you really want to tip a taxi driver, just ask the driver to keep the change. The driver may still be confused though, we just don't have this tip culture. We used to tip in restaurants, but since the 10% service charge was introduced, ppl start not to do so. You can still secretly tip the waiter if you appreciate his service, but remember anything going with the bill will not end up in the waiters' hands (I recommend you to only do this in classy restaurants or hotels because they tend to accept tips better than those smaller ones).

    • @SonjaViolette
      @SonjaViolette 7 лет назад +1

      AHAHAHA

  • @RachelandJun
    @RachelandJun  7 лет назад +170

    ★Subtitles!★
    *English*
    *Japanese*
    *German* thanks to: Soyachan
    *Dutch* thanks to: Iris Z
    *Italian* thanks to: aden337
    *Spanish*
    *Arabic*
    *Indonesian* thanks to: jessica lim
    *French* thanks to: Shake
    *Romanian*
    *Thai*
    *Russian* thanks to: Anastasia Zotova
    *Polish* thanks to: J .KS
    Want to help subtitle our videos?
    rachelandjun.blogspot.jp/2014/01/r-video-transcripts-updated-4-aug-2016.html

    • @devinammerman8397
      @devinammerman8397 7 лет назад +19

      Rachel & Jun you are so sweet for putting subtitles and thank you to all the others who do it for other languages💜💜💜💜

    • @alex333ccc
      @alex333ccc 7 лет назад +1

      Rachel & Jun a

  • @steph.v.o.7078
    @steph.v.o.7078 5 лет назад +12

    This has been so wonderfull to watch!!!
    I have so much respect for these ladies, the whole education to become a geisha is so intensive!
    Thank you for this video, with love from the Netherlands 🙏

  • @denisescull4227
    @denisescull4227 6 лет назад

    I appreciate the way you presented this subject and the way you filmed and the questions you asked. I really enjoyed it. Thank you so much!

  • @rloach067
    @rloach067 7 лет назад +184

    geisha are basically the best host ever you can have in your party

    • @stefaniehadi1801
      @stefaniehadi1801 5 лет назад +1

      Not for everyone since people have different tastes

  • @dusterdude238
    @dusterdude238 7 лет назад +82

    I find Japanese the older/ traditional culture just so facinating.
    if I ever get to go to Japan, I would really like to see the older parts with the traditional rice paper and wood houses, and beautiful water/ Rock gardens. from what I have seen in pictures and movies it just looks awesome!
    "last Japanese dinner party a flop?
    Ut Oh, Better call maiko!" HA HA

    • @vilstas
      @vilstas 5 лет назад +3

      Traditional paper and wood houses look really awesome, but they are COLD! I slept in one at 7 degrees C. outside, omg. Unique experience, but I would repeat that only in summer. I love my properly insulated western building :)

  • @jjm0537
    @jjm0537 4 года назад +16

    Because of this video, I finally fully understand Geishas (their purpose, their cultural value).

  • @btsarmymomtata5624
    @btsarmymomtata5624 5 лет назад +4

    This was a wonderful video! I learned alot and enjoyed the experience. Thank you!

  • @TheRealTrikein
    @TheRealTrikein 7 лет назад +17

    I envy the kind of emotional depth Japanese culture has. Their ways of discipline and communication with silence is very elegant. Thank you for sharing.

  • @ay3590_
    @ay3590_ 7 лет назад +104

    Why people have misconception?
    It literally means girl who sell/show art

    • @maywenearedhel
      @maywenearedhel 5 лет назад +28

      Because of the "geesha girl" of the 1940's who were simply prostitutes who sold themselves to American soldiers after the war. Also, traditionally, Geisha did provide carnal services, though it was more of a silent service option for customers rather than their true purpose. Also, they weren't allowed to refuse back in the day like they are now, so those "silent services" were more readily available.

  • @deschepper
    @deschepper 4 года назад

    Amazing episode. Informative, entertaining, great lighting, sound and editing. My favourite so far.

  • @cathyme61
    @cathyme61 5 лет назад +7

    So beautiful, the definition of graceful. Thank you for sharing.

  • @ashgopal
    @ashgopal 7 лет назад +298

    Oh my god, Jun's manly pose at 8:37 XD Might Gai would be proud!

  • @Lanttimatkat
    @Lanttimatkat 7 лет назад +729

    What a lovely and informative video! I didn't know you could order a geisha online. I also thought you'll always need to have a recommendation so you can't be a "first time customer". Good to know it's also possible for a first timer. I wonder how many westerners are training to become a geisha or how many western geisha there are? Must be a very interesting training experience.
    Lotta/Lanttimatkat

    • @choipichiim
      @choipichiim 6 лет назад +5

      Hi! Sorry that this is a year late, but if you wanted to know more about the Geisha World, here is a video that taught me a year or two ago.

    • @ineedmoresalmon2475
      @ineedmoresalmon2475 6 лет назад +7

      if you really want to get informed about to geisha world there is a book named "Geisha" by Liza Dalby, highly recommended

    • @yosoyasi9267
      @yosoyasi9267 6 лет назад

      .

    • @spark_6710
      @spark_6710 5 лет назад +1

      It's not easy to be a geisha.There was only one westerner geisha back then,obviously there are more now,but I bet only few.

  • @Paganbeliever
    @Paganbeliever 6 лет назад

    Thank you so much for this video Rachel and Yun. I hope you have an amazing time whatever you’re doing right now. I learn alot watching your channel

  • @kissypants7
    @kissypants7 4 года назад

    Arigato Rachel & Jun for this vid. One of my all time favorite!

  • @SnickyNicky96
    @SnickyNicky96 7 лет назад +68

    I've always been fascinated with Geisha culture.

  • @lynguini
    @lynguini 7 лет назад +208

    the Japanese have a pretty intense party culture huh

  • @ahluvdrums
    @ahluvdrums 5 лет назад

    What a great, informative video! Thanks so much for posting, this was definitely very helpful in explaining everything, even down to the cost. And it looks like such a great time! Really appreciate you guys talking the time to explain this to all of us, of course I would love one day to experience this in person!

  • @tobyhu8450
    @tobyhu8450 6 лет назад +1

    Wow! Thank you for such an amazing experience!! I learned so much about Geisha! :)

  • @MrTheWaterbear
    @MrTheWaterbear 7 лет назад +29

    Jun was so manly until he choked on the beer XD
    I can imagine geisha probably have a major disadvantage in the rock/paper/scissors leg-spreading game due to their tight kimono... but maybe they're all this good and never lose? :P
    It was interesting to see the Geisha in their service roles - it's like having a performer and entertainer all wrapped up in a ceremonious manner. Interesting to know about Geisha, and this video is one of the best I've seen on the subject!

  • @lizette2840
    @lizette2840 7 лет назад +641

    I'm like a more in depth interview with kimisho, what's her real name?, were is she from? is she becoming a geisha?,why she decided to live in japan? etc...I don't really know is a foreign woman can become into a geisha, that would be really interesting.

    • @lizette2840
      @lizette2840 7 лет назад +3

      I'd like*

    • @murrr1808
      @murrr1808 7 лет назад +123

      You can Google Kimicho and you'll find plenty about her. She's done a few interviews in the past, as well, that are readily available online.
      It's extremely difficult to become a geisha as a foreigner, but there are 6 foreign geisha currently. See a list here:
      missmyloko.tumblr.com/post/149498870133/hello-you-said-that-there-was-six-non-japanese

    • @lizette2840
      @lizette2840 7 лет назад +73

      +Marianne Sato I had no idea she was famous, thanks.

    • @happyswedme
      @happyswedme 7 лет назад +8

      As far as i understan geishas are by definition to som degree famous

    • @Rosa-kf2ik
      @Rosa-kf2ik 7 лет назад +4

      She can still be maiko it depends

  • @alekwhite8402
    @alekwhite8402 5 лет назад +5

    This is amazing. I really enjoyed this video. Very interested very informative and beautiful. Good job guys, Great video!

  • @Vick77777
    @Vick77777 5 лет назад

    THANKS so much for this video Rachel and Jun. SO appreciate. Found this so cool!

  • @teraphIl1000
    @teraphIl1000 7 лет назад +311

    This looked like so much fun, I love this video! ^-^

  • @coombeslauren
    @coombeslauren 7 лет назад +17

    Considering how famously private and secluded the geisha world is it feels very special to have seen the performances in this video. Very well done :)

  • @huiling9373
    @huiling9373 6 лет назад

    I love this video! I’ve always been fascinated with geishas and this is the best thing I’ve ever watched.

  • @HelgaCavoli
    @HelgaCavoli 6 лет назад

    I am TRULY AMAZED you both could film that. Specially the dance/singing part. I felt like I wasn't worth it. I'm humbly thankful for that.

  • @2hearts1seoul
    @2hearts1seoul 7 лет назад +33

    This was so interesting, what an awesome experience that must have been for you guys--so jelly!

    • @RachelandJun
      @RachelandJun  7 лет назад +4

      Thank you!! It was pretty exciting! :D

  • @unknown8805
    @unknown8805 7 лет назад +19

    That was so cool! Japan truly is the master of mixing traditions and history with present day!

  • @maggiemoran2765
    @maggiemoran2765 5 лет назад

    Such a beautiful tradition. Thank you for uploading this!

  • @ashleyalexwallace
    @ashleyalexwallace 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you Nanoha-san and you guys for sharing this beautiful art. I would come to Japan just to experience this art

  • @AlexiasShado
    @AlexiasShado 7 лет назад +7

    Kimicho-san has such grace in her movements I've never seen in someone of Western descent like myself! Her Autumn colors compliment her so well.

  • @keirtaylor4669
    @keirtaylor4669 7 лет назад +133

    nice video and good explanation of the mystery. I love how their hair is so shiny. Does Kimicho not wear the make up because she is white or is that for another reason? Thank you

    • @revinaque1342
      @revinaque1342 7 лет назад +101

      It's not required to wear the white makeup after the maiko apprenticeship, and it costs more to hire a geisha in white makeup with the lacquered wig.

    • @keirtaylor4669
      @keirtaylor4669 7 лет назад +4

      Revina Que thank you I had no idea :)

    • @BabyWanderer
      @BabyWanderer 7 лет назад +61

      Kimicho has never been a maiko (maiko is only for Kyoto aprentices). Also I believe she has never been a hangyoku (correct term for Tokyo apprentices). I've seen Kimicho wearing shironuri before, she looks really pretty =)

    • @Aetohatir
      @Aetohatir 7 лет назад +5

      They just don't shower. That how it get's so shiny :D

    • @BR-jt6ny
      @BR-jt6ny 7 лет назад +12

      I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that they use wax in their hair to give it shine and help it stay in place

  • @harley5323
    @harley5323 5 лет назад +6

    I've rewatched this about a thousand times, it's just so interesting

  • @sharksgrr
    @sharksgrr 6 лет назад

    wooow! she's so graceful! even just when coming in and opening and closing the door.

  • @ThePaintedCookie
    @ThePaintedCookie 7 лет назад +6

    This is really cute and such an authentic experience even from behind the screen. Thank you for sharing this!

  • @emilyworth5238
    @emilyworth5238 7 лет назад +5

    I love how this channel educates as well as entertains. Keep up the awesome work!

  • @sebastianesquivel932
    @sebastianesquivel932 3 года назад

    This is so nice to watch! Thanks for sharing!

  • @siobhansprouse3254
    @siobhansprouse3254 6 лет назад

    ahh this is so cool! I've always loved the culture, but the history of geisha is something that absolutely captivates me. Such a neat video!

  • @Zoot101
    @Zoot101 7 лет назад +10

    One misconception I had about geisha was that their performances are serious, thought-provoking affairs, meant to be viewed as fine art. That's not true at all - they're entertainers and seriously want you to have a fun, memorable time in their company. This video did a great job of showing that. :)

  • @beccablueeyes99
    @beccablueeyes99 7 лет назад +27

    This was so fascinating to watch. It's funny and a little odd that you can hire them on the internet. Something about the historic with something so modern is just funny.
    It was so wonderful that they let you film the experience so you could share it with us. Thank you

    • @cadaver6665
      @cadaver6665 5 лет назад +1

      Rebecca Woodward (Yea replying to an old comment but) I think it's all great though, more accessibility means there's more people to keep a beautiful tradition alive.

  • @ivorellarackley4401
    @ivorellarackley4401 6 лет назад

    This was such a wonderful and beautiful video. That Geisha was beautiful and so sweet. Thank you for this video!

  • @trigionozoid3435
    @trigionozoid3435 4 года назад +18

    8:36 do a manly pose
    Jun: YES I AM

  • @WildCatMiyuu
    @WildCatMiyuu 7 лет назад +3

    I had no idea what these parties looked like. It seems very fun, thank you for making a video about it :)

  • @Joyzyii
    @Joyzyii 7 лет назад +9

    This was very informative and well done. I enjoyed watching!

  • @eh5320
    @eh5320 5 лет назад +11

    ooh I love this!
    I just watched a documentary about geishas last week and all they ever talked about was how they would entertain men and all the 'parties' they would go to were males only so I thought it's basically impossible or maybe just socially unacceptable? for women to hire geishas but now I see that it can be done so that's cool, thank you!

  • @ajvs2054
    @ajvs2054 Год назад

    This Video was so special, thank you very much!

  • @akashigaming693
    @akashigaming693 7 лет назад +14

    I enjoyed this video very much. It kinda felt like i was there. Loved it :)