Did a 63 Year Old Nolan Ryan Actually Throw an 86 MPH First Pitch?
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Idk why people exaggerate the number when its already incredibly impressive
they want clicks?
Literally what he said in the video.
At that age it's impressive to get the ball to the plate at any speed. 60 feet, 6 inches looks a lot bigger when you actually stand out there!
someone somewhere was trying to type 68 and they mistyped it as 86. Then people went with it. Thats almost guaranteed to be what happened.
@dash4800 yeah i think things are accidental more than we like to think. Like i see ppl say the reason every youtube vid gets dislikes is bcuz of bots, but misclicks are way more likely
He might not have thrown 86 mph, but he did punch Robin Ventura twice when he came off the mound.
Those punches were clocked at 86 mph
Funniest thing I have ever seen.
A classic
Actually, his full name is Robin "Speed Bag" Ventura.
Ryan punched Ventura in the head like meat needing to be tenderized.
Who cares what the actual speed was, that shit was in the strike zone. Greatest pitcher of all time.
Nolan Ryan was a bad ass pitcher!!! Honored to have seen him pitch in person!!! Amazing arm!!!
The only reason i belived it was 85 mph was because it was Nolan Ryan who threw it, anyone else i wouldnt have belived it
Totally understandable!
Today if someone said Randy Johnson threw an 86 mph first pitch, I'd totally believe it.
Ryan and Johnson were physical freaks. I mean that in a good way. They both could reach back and give you a 100mph pitch in the 9th inning of a complete game. Even when they were older and "slower." You could never get comfortable.
with cleats and warm up he probably could hit 80, if he's throwing 70 in dress shoes. I seem to remember stories of him throwing BP a few years before that and still clocking mid 80's...
@@jdfreeman1776 And with Johnson, the batter pretty much knew when johnson was going to throw a fastball and they still couldn't hit. and you are right in Johnson's last no hitter, his last fastball was faster than his first fastball.
One thing to remember is his last pitch resulted in what would require Tommy John Surgery. He never got it repaired. The fact that at 63, with a compromised elbow, he was still able to hit upper 60's is fucking nuts.
what does fucking have to do with it?
It's amazing he could get it to home plate.
He was 63, not 93. Even I at 61 can still throw a baseball in the 70mph range & I was never in MLB. (It's just a matter of continued practice)
No you can't@@JustJoe711
Bs. I dont think you have any idea how hard it is to even throw 70.
It was actually 186 mph. I would know, I was there.
I would know, I was the ball
It was 681 MPH. Abraham Lincoln.
Impressive. The previous record was by Sidd Finch - 168 mph.
She turned me into a newt.
😂
Dyslexia is a real thing
Nolan Ryan throwing that pitch at the age of 36 is simply awesome
😅
This comment deserves more.
I saw Nolan Ryan get his last win ever at Angel Stadium in 1993 when he was a Ranger , we were in the upper deck halfway down and you could hear the ball sizzle still
bitter sweet too since he left the Angels to become a Ranger.
That’s awesome!
I saw wiffs of smoke on a few of the faster pitches.
Smithers:....I think could actually hear the air being torn sir. Mr. Burns:...Oh shut up!
He left Houston to sign with the Rangers. He left the Angels to go to Houston.
I am impressed that a 63 year old can lift his leg that highj.
The He was still an active cattle rancher for several years after he retired. He probably stayed pretty limber to do that job.
I am 67 and can probably still run farther than you can and do more sit ups …
GenX skaters in suburbia in the 80's+90's are now 50.
I would say about 5% of them still skate. Myself included.
And we are 50.. I dont see much changing in the next 10-15 years..
~Oh the reason thats' a alot of people because in 1988 every town had sjateboarders coming out the
woodwork.. Good luck going to a skateshop on a saturday.
Regardless of the speed, those were some beautiful pitches, even if the second was way outta the zone. Nolan Ryan's just mesmerizing to watch
I remember as a young man of 28 thinking I could throw pretty fast ... and they clocked it at a stunning 67 mph. Props to Nolan Ryan.
I hit 61 . . . couldn't believe it lol.
@@OroborusFMA Ditto (or close to). I couldn't get any faster than 59-60. It looked awful fast to me at the time. I was never going to be a pitcher, that's for sure.
They read the number backwards hehe, still a legend to me
I have a Nolan Ryan autograph that I don't know if I could ever let go. Truly a Legend
I was there and can confirm that I heard that baseball break the sound barrier when it launched off his fingertips.
Guys in the seventies were throwing around 70 mph? In 9th grade maybe. Their off speed might have been in the 70s but not their fastball.
yeah there were some guys throwing Jamie Moyer speeds, but people act like that was normal. I saw a clip of the 77 world series, and the starting pitcher was hitting 93 in the 8th inning
Yeah I have been hearing that lately. It's obviously not true. Guys do throw faster now but for some reason people extrapolate the increase we have seen over the last 10-20 years and apply that to all of baseball history.
@ guys in the 70s we’re not asked to throw 5 innings then rest. They were supposed to throw nine every 4 to 5 days. In order to make it thru a season they had to go about 80% and then go hard in tight situations. Today most guys don’t throw more than 100 pitches so they can give a little more. Human physiology hasn’t changed the situations have.
@@nominalizeand that’s measuring the “old” way. So if today’s techniques were used, he would’ve been clocked even faster.
@@cwahoo1 that's defenitely a factor but I don't think its the main reason. Guys grow up now spending a lot more time working out and perfecting their mechanics. There is also a lot wider pool of players to draw from when you account for increases in population and access to international players.
There were no players who were capable of throwing 100 but only threw 90 because they had to pace themselves. The increase in average fastball speed can partially be attributed to the fact that guys don't throw 150+ pitches anymore and those extra 50-60 pitches were slower on average. But I think it's a minor part of the difference.
At my FASTEST, I threw like 72-73 mph. Ryan throwing high 60s, IN his 60s in dress clothes is crazy.
The only way I see a pitcher his age in 2010 throwing that fast is if they always threw only at 70-75% and never ever got shoulder injuries, then maybe I can see that
That would make sense
I think I remember about 10 years ago Nolan Ryan was doing an interview on 1310 The Ticket, Dallas radio. He said he'd still go out and throw a few pitches from time to time on a little makeshift bullpen at his ranch.
Keeping himself warm! 😂🤣🤣 Hell yeah!!!
Roger Clemens hit 83 at age 58, but in uniform and presumably after warming up.
I'll accept that as fact based solely on he was doing at least a dozen mph faster in his late 40s.
And right after a roid binge.
It was some kind of reunion game at Texas, with broadcasters and radar guns on hand.
His fastball velocity dropped to about 85 in his 30s. Then canseco injected horse steroids in his @ss and suddenly he was throwing 96. That's why clemens will not make the hof.
I was excited to go to a KC Royals game when Nolan Ryan was in town. I was greatly disappointed when he only lasted two innings. A couple weeks later I went to another game and saw Brett Saberhagen pitch a no-hitter for the Royals. One of the greatest pitching performances I’ve ever seen.
My favorite memory of Nolan Ryan is when Robin Ventura thought it a good idea to charge the mound until Ryan showed him otherwise.
Once upon a time, someone typo'd 68 into 86, the editor didn't catch it, and the rest is history. :P
yep, exactly what i said
Maybe somewhere from a report but the screen clearly shows 68.
or whoever was watching had dyslexia and saw the 68 as an 86, but still no one caught the error at the time.
Bob Feller threw over 100mph on flat asphalt (no mound) wearing a suit and tie and leather soled dress shoes. I had the pleasure of chatting with Feller at an MLBPA charity event where I was a volunteer "concierge" for the dignitary players. We sat over a sandwich and chatted mostly about his Navy career of which he was MOST proud. I asked him about the famous motorcycle-vs-fastball race and he told that not only was it legit, but his right foot slipped a bit on his push-off probably knocking 4-5 mph (his estimate) off the pitch. He still beat the 100mph motorcycle to the target.
LOL, maybe the comments section of a video pointing out the prevalence of urban myths in baseball isn't the best place for you to roll out this gem.
Went to the Astrodome when I was about 10 and Nolan Ryan was pitching, I remember running down all the way from upper deck to behind the catcher and ump behind the fence and net. I was so excited to see Ryan just throw the ball. He kicked his leg high and pitched and I heard the glove make a noise, but I never saw a ball. And then the catcher threw the ball back I was so confused so I paid very close attention to him throwing the next pitch this time the batter swung and the sound of the ball hitting the glove but again I never saw a ball, lol. I know I was only about 10 or 12 but I still should have seen a ball. But to be fair I think lots of professional baseball players never saw the ball either. LOL
The book on ryan in the day was you sat on his fastball and hope it wasn't a strike, and then swung at the curve ball. If he was having an off night you could beat him. If he was on the best you could do is try to prevent a no hitter.
A 63 year old getting his leg that high is a feat onto itself lol
You must know a whole lot of seriously out of shape people then. Sixty-three is only old on people who were already "old" when they were young. Being that Nolan Ryan was the hardest thrower of all time and was still throwing heat after 26 years, this probably doesn't apply to him.
I watched that game and the first pitch live. One of the broadcasters said the pitch was 83. I was maybe 16 or 17 at the time, but even then I assumed it was hyperbole. Then, years later, I started seeing people state it as fact.
Pretty sure that’s how the rumor started.
Interesting, didn’t know that!
@ I tried looking it up. Couldn’t find it during the TBS broadcast of the ACLS game 1. Might have been a pre or post game show… or maybe it was replayed somewhere in the middle of the game, but I’m certain that’s where it came from.
Nolan Ryan had the most perfect mechanics of any pitcher, ever, so yes, I believe that at 63yo he could throw 86. Those mechanics that he ingrained in his body over his TWENTY-SEVEN-YEAR MLB career (not to mention the years in high school, college, and the minors) would not leave him. Okay, he actually threw 68. Give him a few warmups and a lot of stretching, 86 no problem.
For any 63 year old to reach even 70 mph on a throw I think is pretty impressive as it is. At 86 mph for his age, that’s an iron arm that’s aged well like a skyscraper.
Could he throw 86? Probably yes... once... if he didn't need to raise his arm for the next week
Fantastic video. Loved the details and staying on point.
That first pitch at the suppose 86 mph sure looked at lot similar to Kyle Hendricks 86.
Even at 63, Nolan Ryan throwing 68 mph in dress shoes is wild! The 85 mph myth might be debunked, but it doesn’t take away from how impressive this man’s arm still is. Absolute legend!
His last year was the last year I ever watched professional baseball. No ritz. No glam. Just soft spoken, hard workin HEAT!
I remember him throwing a first pitch when he was in his early to mid-50s, probably in the late 90s, which appeared to be a lot closer to 85. He was in much better shape then.
I’m inclined to believe everything said about Nolan Ryan is true. Maybe because I think we need it to be. Legends are what keep us loving the game.
If Nolan Ryan gets bored of his Rangers office job, looks like he could still go around throwing first pitches for a living even if they only hit 68. His arm must be made of titanium.
Ryan ended his career when his arm wouldn't throw anymore. For 27 years, his arm was indeed made of titanium. If I remember right he described "feeling a pop" when he threw and then decided to call it quits.
Shame he's not left handed.
Everybody needs to give it a rest!!
86 or 68, Nolan Ryan is still Nolan Ryan, the G.O.A.T.(GREATEST OF ALL TIME)
Imagine trying to get some footing on the mound in wingtips
I had the pleasure of seeing Ryan pitch live twice. One game was on lucky single in the 9th to ruin a perfect pitched game. Watching him was witnessing perfection.
Sat behind home plate in 1972 watching Nolan pitch with my whole little league team at Angel stadium 7 years old. Great memory.
I saw Bob Feller in 2007 lob 15 or so balls over the plate at age 88 in an old timers game, impressive even if no more than 20-30 mph. I knew 68 was possible for Ryan and figured 86 was an easy typo. I loved seeing Feller 70 years after my great uncle went up to League Park and saw him for his 10th birthday present with the family and still rememberedbatters being afraid to stand 8n there. ( He recalled Feller won, I got the box score on retrosheet and printed it out for him). Ryan is the same, once in a generation.
Uhh. This channel has a video from 2 days ago perpetuating the myth that Ichiro's ceremonial pitch was 96mph (it was 84, which is still fantastic).
*94, and mlb themselves posted a video that claimed it was 94. I think they’d be a solid source frankly.
@madethecut MLB published an article that clarifies that it was 84 by StatCast. Someone at some point said the wrong thing, it made it onto social media, and then it just got repeated because everyone assumed that someone else verified it. Pretty much the same as with Ryan's pitch.
I loved watching Nolan Ryan pitch back in the day. He was an inspiration for me and i worked harder to be a better pitcher.I even got to play a year of farm league beyond high school, alas I washed out but hey it was fun to try!
That’s the hardest 68 mph pitch I ever saw
Regardless of the speed of the pitch "Nolan" was my favorite pitcher of all time. One never new what would be arriving at the plate, and that fear was on the minds of all approaching that plate. I'm pretty positive he is still pitching in his dreams. Best to you "Nolan."
It's what people want to believe because Nolan Ryan is a HOF and an absolute LEGEND!
It's still impressive that he threw 68 MPH at that age, but he never threw the fastest pitch in baseball. People exaggerate his numbers during his prime just like they did here. He never threw 108 and people keep wanting to lie to themselves.
Nolan is a class act. His strength and longevity can be attributed to his work ethic training and his mechanics
Someone just accidentally flipped the digits and the internet ran with it
I'm 62 and can throw 60-62. 86 is soo hard to do if you haven't played in a long time. 68 is good.
Nolan Ryan Threw Gas. I Faced It
-Rob
Nolan Ryan was the GOAT when I was a kid, I loved watching him play
Ryan Express legend lives on! ⚾️🔥
I remember the old baseball game on the NES. If you got the Astros, your pitcher would throw 99-105 regularly. I didn't know why when i was playing it, this was in the mid-90s mind you, but later came to find out that Nolan Ryan was the reason why.
HIS SPEED LEVEL WAS OVER 9000!!!!
He also blew out his elbow on the penultimate pitch of his career when he was 46. That ended his career as he wasn't going to have TJS. That means his elbow, at least from a pitching perspective, is still damaged, so that's yet another reason he didn't throw 86 at 63. One final note. The average fastball wasn't 75-80 when Ryan pitched as I believe you mentioned. It was believe to be around 86, with peak starters like Ryan, Koufax, Seaver and Gibson in the mid-90s with some likely reaching 100, Ryan being one of them. Certainly Goose Goosage was 100+. Sam McDowell is another who may have broken 100. If you listen to one of the World Series games in '77, they were using radar guns and mentioned Mike Torrez hitting 93 mph. Beyond that, just found your channel and have now subscribed!
One of my favorite Nolan Ryan factoids is the last pitch he threw in a game was clocked at 98 mph, with a torn ligament in his elbow, at 46 years old.
Respect for Mr Ryan. He is a great guy!!! I was at his last major league game. Respect!!!!!
When I was 12 years old, we had this very large kid on our little league team who had a 60 mph fastball. An amazing feat, but he had absolutely no control over where that ball was going to end up. So, of course the manager used him every chance he could. Seemed like he nailed a batter in every game he pitched. My friends on other teams complained to me about him and I told them that their fear was nothing compared to ours because we had to face him at every single practice. He was our Swollen Ryan. Funny thing is we were The Indians, and this was before Major League came out. I got PTSD flashbacks watching that movie before Wild Thing got his glasses.
As a non-pro athlete and normal guy, I had a chance in my late 20s once to throw a pitch at a event that had a pitching mound and radar gun. I threw it so hard my arm hurt for a few days afterward. The speed of the pitch? 52MPH. Ryan (who is the GOAT in my opinion) throwing at 68MPH with old joints, muscles, and ligaments, wearing business casual attire, and getting the ball over the plate 60+ feet away is impressive.
I wasn't a pitcher but I threw like 60 mph tops when I was 18. Being able to throw almost 70 mph at that age is nuts
Whatever, he was incredible!
I'd never heard this before, but my first impulse would have been to believe it simply because it's Nolan Ryan we're talking about. He's really the only pitcher I can think of for whom it would make sense to believe that it would be probable, based on his incredible power AND his longevity. Another interesting topic I'd like to see explored is that Ryan's 1974 world record 100.8 mph pitch has been estimated to actually be 108.1 mph if measured by today's method (clocked when the pitch leaves the pitcher's hand rather than when it crosses the plate as it was back then).
EDIT: As to why these kind of things get propagated as fact, social media really amplifies people's ability and impulse to sound cool and knowledgeable by reciting "facts" in comments sections. It's kind of hard to resist for some. Even facts that are genuine but very widely known get repeated over and over, as if the commenter is sharing some breaking news flash. In some ways, that's even more annoying than repeating false claims.
The guy is a legend,if he did throw this 86mph pitch,he’s got more than kids who are 18 or 19 yo,pretty damn impressive
That catcher’s dig out of Ryan’s short-hop was more impressive.
Looked like pudge
Excellent truth with documentation. It was awesome to see him pitch and hear the ball slapping the catchers leather.
At release, Ryan threw as high as 108. By the time it crossed the plate, those pitches were 106 to 104.
He was faster than Chapman and everybody else.
At release.
Officially (Guiness, MLB) time pitches at the plate so the speed is going to be what the batter sees as a swingable pitch.
Ryan is the fastest.
This is based on unreliable evidence. It's unlikely to be true based on all the real world evidence that exists. He threw really hard, over 100 for sure, but it's incredibly unlikely he threw harder than a guy like Aroldis Chapman. In fact it's almost certain he didn't. If you know, you know. Don't listen to a bunch of unreliable data from a game where the readings were completely wild and extremely obviously inaccurate.
Maybe a simple answer... 68 to 86... Dyslexia in the person who started that myth?
At 63 he is still throwing above his age ... the last time I was able to throw above my age I was 23 ... so yeah ... I am impressed.
Nolan likely did throw close to 110 at least a few times in his career. Due to the way speeds are measured, his fastest recorded pitch was likely 108mph or so. He truly deserves the title of GOAT.
Never cared how fast, just great to see Nolan out there
Nolan was the standard for heat 27 seasons having a MLB level pitching abilities is no comparison . 46 still doing what he did is insane . In his prime, forget about it nobody could do what he did year in and year out. He was it.
MLB players are awesome. Ichiro pitched a 94mph first pitch in his 50s. These guys are on a different level.
I saw him pitch for the Rangers and can tell you firsthand, he was a phenom. I doubt we'll ever see another pitcher like him in the Big's again.
Not to mention, Nolan Ryan holds several Major League Fight records- fastest right hand, most punches landed, etc.
Like everyone else here, I wasn't allowed to name my son Nolan Ryan either. Whata legend!
68mph in his 60s. What a legend.
I was very fortunate to go to Yankee Stadium one afternoon and see Nolan pitch against Mel Stottlemyre; it was a great pitching duel with Mel coming out on top! I believe the final score was 2-0.🙂
Mr Nolan is a National Treasure!
That was a good ass scoop by the catcher!
this was probably caused by one typo one person made somewhere
I believe every second of it, by the time i started playing baseball at 9yo my dad was in his 40s, he was a recruited pitcher for the marlins his senior year of highschool and threw mid 90s, when i was 16-17 6’0 200 pounds chuckin mid to high 80s he was still keeping up with me every single pitch in his work clothes 😂. We used to go out and play long toss and i could never toss it as far as he could lol
Did I hear from the narration that Joe Bucks said 86 instead of 68 this video which also display 68 on the screen? I am confused a bit.
A reporter who interviewed Ted Williams in 1980 asked him this loaded question: "Ted, you hit
.344 lifetime. If you were playing today, what do you think your batting average would be?" To
which the Splinter replied "Oh, about .320, I guess." Taken aback by such undue modesty, the
journalist inquired further: "Is that because the pitching today is so much better than it was in
your day?" Without missing a beat, Williams quipped "No, that's 'cause I'm 62 years old, so it's
harder to get the bat around, especially on a fastball." Granted, the story may be apocryphal,
but the moral is obvious, if not unambiguous.
Of course I did. It’s Nolan Ryan!! He was bringing heat when he was 45 years old!
Saw him pitch against Brazosport in '64. Dang he was fast. We only got a couple of hits off him. Thankfully it was only 7 innings of torture 😅
I'm not a dedicated enough fan to accurately guess, but it did not look like 86 mph to me. At that age, though, to manage 68 mph is still impressive. One of the greats!
My honest first thought upon seeing the pitch was it looked about 70 mph, and it was just about that. If you watch enough baseball, its obvious that wasn't even close to the mid 80s. Nolan Ryan is impressive enough, no need for misinformation to expand his legend.
Here is a number that isn’t exaggerated. 5714. Nolan Ryan’s career strikeout count. Almost 1000 more than the second highest total.
In fairness that 68 mph first pitch was a pretty sweet curveball
He's still able to pitch faster than his age, which is pretty amazing.
You have where he was standing. Yhe distance to home, and a video showing the time it took to cover that distance. Math it out.
When the resolution is that low it’s just not reliable. See Foolish Baseball’s video reacting to when MLB Network did just that a few years back
People gotta remember tech wasn't what it is now. So he may have been throwing faster in his prime. As a life long Rangers fan, Nolan Ryan is the man!
In his prime, he probably threw up to 106-108 mph at his release point, which translates to the 101mph his pitch was clocked at 10' from the plate. But people get mental at the idea that someone in the 1970s could throw that hard. Nolan Ryan was a freak of nature.
Absolutely zero shot he threw 108. I can believe he got up to 100-102, but the argument about radar guns being “slow” in his day have been proven verifiably false.
The few times we have seen his “true velo” clocked was in a promotional event where a “high tech” velocity measuring machine was wheeled out and they put his numbers up on the board. Obviously they didn’t want that promo to backfire so when they saw he was routinely in the low to mid 90’s, they tweaked the machine so it started going up over the course of the game, eventually reading that mythical 101 in the ninth inning.
If you can confidently say that a human can gain almost 10mph in velocity after throwing 100+ pitches in a game over 3 hours, then maybe he was topping out 102 at the absolute most. Otherwise, this is all absolute bullshit
@@Lrg3Toppingyou are absolutely wrong deuche , you don’t know ball
@ wrong
@ guns weren’t “slow”dipshit they didn’t pick up the ball til they reached the plate not out of the hand like today , get a clue slapdick
😂
Thank you
What's funny is that its
a ceremonial first pitch.
He's not winding up...
He is, as an ambassador...
going through the motions
...of a ceremonial first pitch.
If he was up there to show
someone how to throw a
proper pitch, he d still be
able to hit the upper 80s-
At Least, not a doubt in my mind
Ryan is a legend
Legend , For Sure , Watched him in the 80s
The most beautiful and perfect wind up in the history of baseball.
He used to sprain the catchers hands during games because he threw hard as hell.
His balls would sizzle
Most people don't understand world-class athletes and how much better, stronger, and faster they are than even great athletes.
I worked in a food warehouse with a former AAA pitcher. We would occasionally toss rotten fruit at each other as a joke. One day my buddy grabs a bad tomato and threw it at a dude driving by in a stand-up picking truck....took him straight out of it. He couldn't apologize enough,. but that's the difference. I actually thought he killed the dude. That was one fast tomato. I flat refused to have snowball fights with him. Those snowballs were so fast you literally couldn't see them.
68mph is more than impressive enough given his age! It's amazing he didn't injure himself doing it😂
What’s more impressive is it doesn’t even look like he’s throwing it his hardest