@De3dSh0t also prime de gea, van dijk, Mane, Sane, Sterling, David silva, Kante and more bro. Arguably one the strongest couple of years in prem history
@@vl7721 Most of these guys weren't the main guys though. All elite players but you ain't putting those dudes in Prem all time XI convos (bar maybe Kante)
Feel bad for Hazard, this type of early retirement is kind of a throwback to back in the day when careers were short and filled with injuries to even some of the best players in the world. It was reminiscent of guys like R9, Baggio, van Basten, etc. Sometimes you just can't control injuries. Yeah, he was lazy and didn't care of himself the way some (or most) other players do these days, but there's no denying how talented Hazard was. I think, for a few years, he was a top 5 player in world football, maybe even top 3. There hasn't been a more talented player playing in a similar position playing in the Prem since the days of Zola or Cristiano. It's like Mourinho said: you can't watch football and not enjoy Eden Hazard. He was a joy to watch. It also highlights this ridiculous focus on stats people have these days. Hazard won games by himself, and was unmatched in terms of ability with the football. Look what he did to Liverpool, Arsenal, Man City. Look at what he did at the World Cup, torched Brazil and many others. The only guys from his era that played in a similar position that had his ability were Messi, Neymar and Ribery. People who bring up Salah don't get it, it's pointless. Hazard was never as responsible for scoring goals the way Mo was, Salah is essentially an inverted forward, whereas Hazard was a playmaker who could play on the wing, play attacking midfield, played behind the strikers, all of those. Social media is full of clowns, those people don't care about football. They don't understand it first and foremost, and then there's this tribal nonsense going on.
I’m a Liverpool fan but I love Eden hazard. He was a phenomenal player , that made you love the game. Wish our fans would just appreciate him instead of always comparing him and salah.
U two are two guys that I can listen to for hours talk about the game u can see ur both clearly students of the game, have very good knowledge n aren’t biased when u speak so big up to the both of u man keep smashing it👏🏾👏🏾
35:00 Messi documentary wouldn’t hit? You mean after all the shit he got from reporters in Argentina throughout his career for not being as good with the national team compared to Barcelona? Losing 2 Copa America finals missing a crucial penalty in one of those and losing a WC final in 2014. To being a fundamental piece and winning everything with Argentina in the latter stage of his career when the majority thought his chance at redemption was already gone. The perseverance to finally lift that trophy and proclaim himself the goat, I gotta disagree and say that documentary would definitely hit.
What a player Hazard was. Yeah he never even played in amazing teams and played under defensive managers and would still produce due to his talent. A lot of talk lately about managers saying things about players after games and the players putting out statements. Hazard was so chill that even when Jose would say after games he's needs to trackback more or score more or do more, and you would still see Hazard laughing and joking in interview and not taking things too personally and him and Jose got along very well even with those criticisms. Why? Because he would still produce.
i agree, cos if he was still a manager he would have subconsciously evolved with the times, like we all have... but i still think he's have high standards
I feel old. Lyes didn't watch thiery Henry. Jeez. I was already a man when I was watching the invincible. As a chelsea fan, Hazard blessed us, he indeed make Stamford bridge is Garden.
That Henry point is spot on lol. Henry is regarded as GOAT of the Prem because of 6 years essentially. Yet we dismiss Hazards longevity when he did it for same length of time😂😂
Is up there talent wise, everybody saw him starting at Juve, but United destroyed him by playing him in the pivot instead of avanced position, they took a AM to play him as a controler which his mad
Happy retirement Hazard. The David Beckham documentary is unbelievable. If you had a chance to have dinner with someone who would you pick to meet Beckham, Ronaldo or Messi? 👀
Tbh, I don't think Xavi was doing it for that long haha. No one really thought the guy was that good until he was like 28. Carried a bit by his team, IMO.
Dunno he consistently kept world class players like xabi alonso out the Spanish team when they won the World Cup and euros and was one of barcas best players from like 2000 just ronaldhino took most of the attention through the 2000s for Barca same situation as puyol ect not getting the credit they deserved. Basically the same as saying modric wasn’t world class until he was 36 and was carried by ronaldo
@@anriquehuman7367 Well, it's true. Xavi never once appeared on a Ballon d'Or or FIFA World Player of the Year shortlist of over 40 players until he was nearly 29 years old in 2008. Fact is, no one considered Xavi world-class, let alone one of the best midfielders in the world, until Barca and Spain started winning everything in sight in around 2008/2009, which is when those two teams hit their peak. Go figure.
Xavi was good since he was 18, no one stay at Barca for that long if he's not good, but Guardiola switchibg his position from DLP to 8 made him go to another level
Herry longevity 6 years? Man won a World Cup at 21 before he came to arsenal btw and was not rubbed at Barca please ooo look at the tapes. Also the becks doc was amazing I felt sir Alex was a huge coward the way he sold becks and didn’t pick up his calls tho
I never got to see the Henry era play football but I was fortunate to see all of CR7 and Messi’s. For me that’s THE LAST generation of pure ballers. You had sbout 40 world class players just when sports science hit staying at the top level for +10 years. Now we might only have 4 World Class players, feel bad for kids born 2010 onwards will grow up seeing the worst level of football 😬
12/13: Bale 13/14: Suarez 14/15: Hazard 15/16: Kante 16/17: Kante/Sanchez 17/18: Salah 18/19: Virgil Let’s stop this nonsense of he was the best player in the league for his entire premier league career please.
Poor attacking teams relative to the rivals? Absolutely. Cesc and Costa are the only ones you could argue test. Pedro, Willian, Oscar, Giroud? Lol what. And mata he played with for a season and half
Pedro was an elite goal scoring winger. Willian in his prime was an elite all round attacker, had skill, could get goals, assist worked his socks off. Giroud is one of the best target men off all time, no coincidence Mbappe, Griezmann love playing with him and Hazard best year came with Giroud up top. OScar was also a very good attacking player. What rivals had better attacking teams? Was the United attack better during Hazard time in the league? Liverpool? Arsenal? Tottenham? Only one you could say was City had a better attack. Remember Hazard left in 2019 @@newrecruit100
@@TheDiegoo17 Pedro was not elite at Chelsea. Let’s not rewrite history. Nobody has ever said that. Pedro was a good player and at time very good. But stop it with being elite. We got Pedro at the end of his prime. Willian? The epitome of inconsistency. On his day he was one of the best in the league but rarely had the consistency. Nobody ever regarded Willian as an elite winger. Giroud was very underrated at Chelsea and he had a good connection with Hazard. However, Hazard had him for only 1.5 years and let’s not act he was elite. Overall Hazard had some decent supporting talent around him but you’re making them to be world beaters which they were never close to we being
Willian and Giroud are 100% elite. LEes not try rewrite history. What winger is not inconsistent? Not called him world class. But even when he played poorly he still gave you high work rate and could still pull something out of nothing. And Giroud was the best link up man in the world, perfect for hazard. Again never said world beaters but elite for sure. @@newrecruit100
Cos Arsenal won, they’ll make entire ep about Hazard (who hasn’t played in like 4 years) and David Beckham doc😅 you know if Utd beat City.. they’d spend 45 mins discussing the game
Arsenal are the only ones who’ve never beat city with pep until last weekend. You want a parade? Geez. United have a pretty good record against pep usually beating them at the ethiad over OT. Chill.
You’ll find alot of United fans love hazard because we can’t like anyone who plays for Liverpool or city so I genuinely would love watching hazard play 😂👏 baller .
Lyes and Cam is an elite combo
Hazard, Aguero, Salah and KDB in those 2017/18 and 2018/19 seasons was peak Prem, will never forget🕊️🕊️🕊️
Kane?
@@obi2349 oh yeah forgot about him
Throw in his 2017/18 season in there too
@De3dSh0t also prime de gea, van dijk, Mane, Sane, Sterling, David silva, Kante and more bro. Arguably one the strongest couple of years in prem history
@@vl7721 Most of these guys weren't the main guys though. All elite players but you ain't putting those dudes in Prem all time XI convos (bar maybe Kante)
@@De3dSh0ttrue true
Feel bad for Hazard, this type of early retirement is kind of a throwback to back in the day when careers were short and filled with injuries to even some of the best players in the world. It was reminiscent of guys like R9, Baggio, van Basten, etc. Sometimes you just can't control injuries. Yeah, he was lazy and didn't care of himself the way some (or most) other players do these days, but there's no denying how talented Hazard was. I think, for a few years, he was a top 5 player in world football, maybe even top 3. There hasn't been a more talented player playing in a similar position playing in the Prem since the days of Zola or Cristiano. It's like Mourinho said: you can't watch football and not enjoy Eden Hazard. He was a joy to watch.
It also highlights this ridiculous focus on stats people have these days. Hazard won games by himself, and was unmatched in terms of ability with the football. Look what he did to Liverpool, Arsenal, Man City. Look at what he did at the World Cup, torched Brazil and many others. The only guys from his era that played in a similar position that had his ability were Messi, Neymar and Ribery. People who bring up Salah don't get it, it's pointless. Hazard was never as responsible for scoring goals the way Mo was, Salah is essentially an inverted forward, whereas Hazard was a playmaker who could play on the wing, play attacking midfield, played behind the strikers, all of those. Social media is full of clowns, those people don't care about football. They don't understand it first and foremost, and then there's this tribal nonsense going on.
God bless you for this comment brother, absolute facts. If you know football, you know Hazard clear Salah
I’m a Liverpool fan but I love Eden hazard. He was a phenomenal player , that made you love the game. Wish our fans would just appreciate him instead of always comparing him and salah.
same bro ,but you know how fans are they love to compare
For a future episode can you speak on Raheem Sterling’s career from the get go and what he had to go with the press in the last ten years.
U two are two guys that I can listen to for hours talk about the game u can see ur both clearly students of the game, have very good knowledge n aren’t biased when u speak so big up to the both of u man keep smashing it👏🏾👏🏾
50:39 naa lyes, I think Kante had a bigger rise from where he started than Rice. Back to back PL bro
of course but I meant more so from when Rice came through around 2017 ish
First 22 mins were brilliant! well said and totally agreed.
Loved this podcast 💯
35:00 Messi documentary wouldn’t hit? You mean after all the shit he got from reporters in Argentina throughout his career for not being as good with the national team compared to Barcelona? Losing 2 Copa America finals missing a crucial penalty in one of those and losing a WC final in 2014. To being a fundamental piece and winning everything with Argentina in the latter stage of his career when the majority thought his chance at redemption was already gone. The perseverance to finally lift that trophy and proclaim himself the goat, I gotta disagree and say that documentary would definitely hit.
What a player Hazard was. Yeah he never even played in amazing teams and played under defensive managers and would still produce due to his talent. A lot of talk lately about managers saying things about players after games and the players putting out statements. Hazard was so chill that even when Jose would say after games he's needs to trackback more or score more or do more, and you would still see Hazard laughing and joking in interview and not taking things too personally and him and Jose got along very well even with those criticisms. Why? Because he would still produce.
Great football iceberg episode 🔥
You guys were spot on about Hazard
I love listening these 2 Cam and Lyes knows football
Cams X Lyes never miss
27:56 that nevilles stray was so uneeded 😭😭
I think Fergie was such an intelligent person when it came to people skills that he would've adapted to this generation of players.
i agree, cos if he was still a manager he would have subconsciously evolved with the times, like we all have... but i still think he's have high standards
I feel old. Lyes didn't watch thiery Henry. Jeez. I was already a man when I was watching the invincible. As a chelsea fan, Hazard blessed us, he indeed make Stamford bridge is Garden.
That Henry point is spot on lol. Henry is regarded as GOAT of the Prem because of 6 years essentially. Yet we dismiss Hazards longevity when he did it for same length of time😂😂
41:30 what is the name of the Barcelona documentary?
Eden was the best player in the league such a joy to watch him
Killer content as usually, need a Galactico content NEEDED!
Great episode guys
Nah cams...Messi is big big in Nigeria also
LET’S GO!!!!
i was at that game when we played Barca in Pennsylvania 2003 pre season lmfao
Eden🥲💔
Aren’t you the guy that was eating out back
ALGORITHM. HIT THE LIKES🙏🏾
41:30 what is the name of the Barcelona documentary?
algorithm hype
What’s the Barca doc called?
Feeling is subjective. Ability, stats and trophies are not
Pogba in the same convo as Neymar & Hazard is mad to me lol
Talent wise. They are special
Is up there talent wise, everybody saw him starting at Juve, but United destroyed him by playing him in the pivot instead of avanced position, they took a AM to play him as a controler which his mad
Thee only white boy who could rock a fade!! I just know hazard got some chocolate in him somewhere down the line😂
Happy retirement Hazard. The David Beckham documentary is unbelievable. If you had a chance to have dinner with someone who would you pick to meet Beckham, Ronaldo or Messi? 👀
Everything hazard could do salah does and he has greater output and efficiency . So I don’t know how hazard is more talented.
I disagree with Cams about SAF! I think Alex Ferguson would have adapted to the way football management is being done now.
i enjoyed it ...
Hazard prop is what I came for mashallah
Tbh, I don't think Xavi was doing it for that long haha. No one really thought the guy was that good until he was like 28. Carried a bit by his team, IMO.
Oh boy😂
Dunno he consistently kept world class players like xabi alonso out the Spanish team when they won the World Cup and euros and was one of barcas best players from like 2000 just ronaldhino took most of the attention through the 2000s for Barca same situation as puyol ect not getting the credit they deserved. Basically the same as saying modric wasn’t world class until he was 36 and was carried by ronaldo
@@DW51380 I mean, even when he wasn't recognised, I think Xavi was always a better play than Xabi Alonso, who I never rated that highly, anyway.
@@anriquehuman7367 Well, it's true. Xavi never once appeared on a Ballon d'Or or FIFA World Player of the Year shortlist of over 40 players until he was nearly 29 years old in 2008. Fact is, no one considered Xavi world-class, let alone one of the best midfielders in the world, until Barca and Spain started winning everything in sight in around 2008/2009, which is when those two teams hit their peak. Go figure.
Xavi was good since he was 18, no one stay at Barca for that long if he's not good, but Guardiola switchibg his position from DLP to 8 made him go to another level
If Beckham documentary is this good ,That Messi Documentary is going to win 10 Oscars ✨
No need to mention the midget here bro
CERTI SHOW
Too many shows only talk about the prem football is not only in England you know
I don’t feel any way about Hazard. As a matter of fact I’m smoking his pacc as we speak
Eden 💙💙💙
Herry longevity 6 years? Man won a World Cup at 21 before he came to arsenal btw and was not rubbed at Barca please ooo look at the tapes.
Also the becks doc was amazing I felt sir Alex was a huge coward the way he sold becks and didn’t pick up his calls tho
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I never got to see the Henry era play football but I was fortunate to see all of CR7 and Messi’s. For me that’s THE LAST generation of pure ballers. You had sbout 40 world class players just when sports science hit staying at the top level for +10 years. Now we might only have 4 World Class players, feel bad for kids born 2010 onwards will grow up seeing the worst level of football 😬
0:03 lies lies lies
Pogba will only be banned for 6 months as it was dhea
People are critical of him because he was a flop at Real Madrid which was his dream team too. He is too overprotected.
You need to play consistently and disappoint in order to be a flop, which Hazard never was. His problems there started pretty much after a few months.
12/13: Bale
13/14: Suarez
14/15: Hazard
15/16: Kante
16/17: Kante/Sanchez
17/18: Salah
18/19: Virgil
Let’s stop this nonsense of he was the best player in the league for his entire premier league career please.
Individual seasons ≠ Best player
Overall, he absolutely was. He was elite every single one of those seasons except 15/16.
@@Al-ji4gd he might have been good but he wasn’t the out right best player in each of those seasons.
Overall, he was. That’s the point. Besides 15/16 he was either in the convo or flat out the best.
@@mr.dareisayitdrifty879216/17 He was better than Kante and Sanchez
Hazard did not play with poor attacking teams. Willian, Costa, Pedro, Fabregas, Mata, Oscar, Giroud all are elite players.
Don’t like how people are rewriting history as if chelsea weren’t the team which always had the highest calibre players in the league
Poor attacking teams relative to the rivals? Absolutely. Cesc and Costa are the only ones you could argue test. Pedro, Willian, Oscar, Giroud? Lol what. And mata he played with for a season and half
Pedro was an elite goal scoring winger. Willian in his prime was an elite all round attacker, had skill, could get goals, assist worked his socks off.
Giroud is one of the best target men off all time, no coincidence Mbappe, Griezmann love playing with him and Hazard best year came with Giroud up top. OScar was also a very good attacking player.
What rivals had better attacking teams?
Was the United attack better during Hazard time in the league?
Liverpool?
Arsenal?
Tottenham?
Only one you could say was City had a better attack.
Remember Hazard left in 2019
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@@TheDiegoo17 Pedro was not elite at Chelsea. Let’s not rewrite history. Nobody has ever said that. Pedro was a good player and at time very good. But stop it with being elite. We got Pedro at the end of his prime. Willian? The epitome of inconsistency. On his day he was one of the best in the league but rarely had the consistency. Nobody ever regarded Willian as an elite winger. Giroud was very underrated at Chelsea and he had a good connection with Hazard. However, Hazard had him for only 1.5 years and let’s not act he was elite. Overall Hazard had some decent supporting talent around him but you’re making them to be world beaters which they were never close to we being
Willian and Giroud are 100% elite.
LEes not try rewrite history.
What winger is not inconsistent? Not called him world class.
But even when he played poorly he still gave you high work rate and could still pull something out of nothing.
And Giroud was the best link up man in the world, perfect for hazard.
Again never said world beaters but elite for sure.
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lyes talking about tribalism is the most hypocritical thing, this guy built his career on social media through tribalism looool
Pogbanned
Cos Arsenal won, they’ll make entire ep about Hazard (who hasn’t played in like 4 years) and David Beckham doc😅 you know if Utd beat City.. they’d spend 45 mins discussing the game
It’s international break
Dead game bro watch other pods plenty talk about arsenal lol
Arsenal are the only ones who’ve never beat city with pep until last weekend. You want a parade? Geez. United have a pretty good record against pep usually beating them at the ethiad over OT. Chill.
go watch SDS they talked about the City Arsenal match a shit ton.
You’ll find alot of United fans love hazard because we can’t like anyone who plays for Liverpool or city so I genuinely would love watching hazard play 😂👏 baller .