Yo, I'm the guy with the topaz team. To any of you flaming Vino (FF player), I have a story for you. After the stream of pokke doing this, he was getting flamed in the discord for his run, in which Vino then invited anyone with the same eidolon investment to get a better clear than he did using that team. If it was so easy to do better, and he played horribly, surely they could get at least one cycle better, no? Wrong. Multiple self proclaimed FF mains attempted this with vino in a call. Not only did they not do better than him, not only did they not do the same as him, but they did WORSE. You are likely ignorant, and these pvpers have my respect. He missed a few e2 FF procs, that's it.
Ngl, tried it myself and cleared a cycle faster. Two or three E2 procs are more than enough to save a cycle, pls don't make excuses with that skill level. Not to mention taking Gally over Lingsha is such an ego draft.
The Ruan Mei diff for that FF player was crazy, the amount of time spent stalling by switching targets and between FF's enhanced basic and skill as if they didn't have E2 left an impression.
Dang I thought that Yunli play was bad but the Firefly play is worse... How even? She's one of the most braindead units to play and there are still misplays in this??
Not only FF misplay, he did a lot mistakes from saving SW ult, turn advancement timing, and rather using SW skill frequently than HMC skill, bro either dented or troll for fun.
I rarely get mad over games but man that Firefly run pissed me tf off cause how is bro stalling over the most obvious decisions but does the most diabolical mistakes without second guessing. I feel like an above average E1 or even E0 Firefly user would do better.
For players who haven’t actually played pvp, it’s hard to understand. The pressure on each move is so high and it’s alot easier to backseat or see what to do in hindsight, but I would say around 70%+ of the 100s of runs I’ve seen end up losing based on a small mistake and rushing. There’s so much to consider, and the other thing is experienced players like in this video (I’m a tourist, these ppl plays 1000s of games) they know exactly the dmg and rotations and maybe make decisions that seem wierd but really it makes sense. Like trying a weird strat since they know the obvious move won’t actually work in practice So yes it wasn’t the best run but that’s like blaming a bball player for missing an easy free throw when the whole discord is spamming emotes
I think the ff side two is actually harder than it looks, since we are missing ruanmei which really tanks her dmg and only having 15 ignore (e1) and sw single target debuffs that dont hold up as good in todays meta. i saw only some missplays and thats it. both teams did fine
that yunli and ff run is an all timer i know ff players usually turn their brain off (because i usually do), but omg... ruan mei not being there is an issue yes, but that man has e2 ff which should allow hmc to spam his skill
What is interesting is that I tried the same exact team and I could not do better. I either tied or did worse after 10 or so retries. Mainly because it was just completely impossible to 0 cycle the first side for me. I could barely 1 cycle it.
7:10 am I the only one who after clicking multiple ults, puts the game in auto just so the flow of animation is smoother and i dont have to click during their pose?
Not having the Robin with JY team was the diff and Aventurine o7 run non the less. I did an 0 cycle with Aventurine Robin Sunday JY with the 133/134 speed tuning of Sunday and JY letting him do 10 stacks every single hit on LL. That being say dmg Topass popping off as main DPS with Sunday is hilarious to watch.
I have the exact same team and I could only get the same score as him using an E0S1 JY, E0S1 Sunday, E0S0 Robin, and E0S0 Huohuo with a 136/135 speed tuned team. Gear can make all the difference. The best possible run I ever managed to do was 27 cycles remaining. Usually it is 26 because Svarog messes someone up.
@@AzureDrag0n1 yea on all E0's 3 cycles is about right my Robin is E2S1 and Sunday E1S0 Aventurine S0E0 running Gepi's LC and JY being E0S1 with that new set that buffs his skill dmg/ult dmg over the 20% follow up dmg set managed to get him an 70/220 crit ratio while farming for Sunday's set and Aventurine himself adds a lot over the fight. Unfortunately HwaHwa don't bring much to the table that a bit of energy and the att buff is negligible if you can survive instead of her try an Galiger or Lingsha and might get an better result. But over all on E0 3 cycles is great non the less.
The FF run wasnt actually all THAT bad, the stalling pissed me off, but given they had to replace ruan mei with SW it was definitely not an awful run like folks keep saying; then again, I dont have FF so idk, but I DO have yunli and that run felt god awful to watch
I mean these runs were in fact painful to watch but...not exactly because of the players (ur cringe af if ur blatantly hating on the players themselves)...it's the fkn game or rather game state...as much as a i love the combat of hsr and i do genuinely think it's still massively underrated...the way these characters are designed (especially with team comps in mind)...they are ALL feast or famine...all of em. In this context that also includes the hypercarry carry topaz specifically. Regular topaz is still chilling at the top of the fua sup dps no matter where u put er. Take robin out that topaz takes an extra cycle maybe 2...jy had multiple tools ripped from him plus he can't be ran as slow JY for the reasons shown here (very restrictive ,no?) ...yunli was a diabolical pick ngl but, if she's this superb dps that's better than acheron apparently (ur high af) then why did she eat dick vs that moc floor when acheron actually eats that floor in 2 ults (with sustain)...it's the famine part of her gameplay (easily replicable as well unfortunately). FF had a core fundamental team memeber ripped from er, which once again fked the entire team up (not just FF) and the game is designed atp with ruan mei in mind...is what it is. The players carry sum "blame" in this for sure...but for a one and done competition...not all of it is on them. Get of that highhorse dick maybe?
Everyone is blaming the fireflop player, but no one is blaming the character herself. If anything, this goes to show how mediocre fireflop is. Bish literally had e2 + shared hp + weakness yet did so horribly. Top 3 dps my a**.
lol sure buddy, when firefly can 5 cost 0 cycle that boss when the player knows what they're doing. Sure keep telling yourself it's the unit problem and not the player 🤡
@@unendingvoidRappa does this with 3 cost only. Reducing it to 2 cost once Fugue releases. Something Firefraud will never achieve. He honestly deserves this loss for picking Firefraud over Rappa
@ceizhore4498 Rappa 3 costing a boss that's made for her? Colour me surprised lmao. That 3 cost is also extreme rng btw, to make sure all the energy is perfect. Acheron can 3 cost that boss with less rng. Idk who you think you're glazing. Also nobody was making any comparisons here. Bring Rappa to any ST focused boss, whether it's Svarog or hoolay or aventurine and see how she does compared to FF, or worse, boothill Rent. Free. Stay mad lil bro
@@unendingvoid Rappa clearing Firefraud with lower cost even in blast content when Fugue comes out? Color me surprised!! stay mad, Rappa lives rent free in your head + Rappa outsold
@@unendingvoid You must be bad at the game if you can only 3 cost 0 cycle with Acheron. Acheron clears with 1 cost on side 2. Boothill and Rappa clear Firefraud in every single content with MUCH lower cost. You cannot find me 1 content Firefly does better
Yall are all speaking in hindsight lmao, stop hating on bro, he might not even be a FF main. Remember, this is PvP, they are drafting based on what little options they have.
After Sunday's banner is over I can proudly say that I skipped him and got e0s1 Fugue (won 50 50 in 79 and 75 25 in 8 pulls) my Acheron can finally exit the abyss she was in since JQ came out (because I don't have him)
Yo, I'm the guy with the topaz team.
To any of you flaming Vino (FF player), I have a story for you.
After the stream of pokke doing this, he was getting flamed in the discord for his run, in which Vino then invited anyone with the same eidolon investment to get a better clear than he did using that team. If it was so easy to do better, and he played horribly, surely they could get at least one cycle better, no?
Wrong. Multiple self proclaimed FF mains attempted this with vino in a call. Not only did they not do better than him, not only did they not do the same as him, but they did WORSE.
You are likely ignorant, and these pvpers have my respect. He missed a few e2 FF procs, that's it.
We even lost but I don't care, the slander is insane and undeserved.
I dont know man , it sounds kinda fake ngl😅
@@noire3935 then try it urself. If u can do better then good for u
Ngl, tried it myself and cleared a cycle faster. Two or three E2 procs are more than enough to save a cycle, pls don't make excuses with that skill level.
Not to mention taking Gally over Lingsha is such an ego draft.
@@LazyCat250he doesnt have lingsha bro
The Ruan Mei diff for that FF player was crazy, the amount of time spent stalling by switching targets and between FF's enhanced basic and skill as if they didn't have E2 left an impression.
every run beside that Topaz one was a pain to experience.
For the Jing Yuan run the main issues were speed tuning and lack of Robin, aside from that not much to do to optimize gameplay.
@@namieblinker5922 my ass is not risking my -1 sunday on svarog delay
@@namieblinker59223.0 be like 👀
After the first wave I thought the E2 FF player was a professional chef. Then after seeing him fight the TV I realized he was a fraud.
Firefly not escaping the Firefraud allegations
Honestly, I really wanna know what's going through the mind of that firefly player. So confusing lmao
They're the average firefly player
it must be on purpose atp, she's literally the most braindead character
That's why I don't use firefly even though i pulled her 🫥.
FF mains likes stalling, empty mind.
Dang I thought that Yunli play was bad but the Firefly play is worse... How even? She's one of the most braindead units to play and there are still misplays in this??
There's nothing he can do about that Yunli run. That boss is literally one of the worst boss u can fight as a Counter damage dealer
@@draim1211 yunli should ult when the tv is going to give energy, its better than ulting when the enemy us going to attack
Not only FF misplay, he did a lot mistakes from saving SW ult, turn advancement timing, and rather using SW skill frequently than HMC skill, bro either dented or troll for fun.
I rarely get mad over games but man that Firefly run pissed me tf off cause how is bro stalling over the most obvious decisions but does the most diabolical mistakes without second guessing. I feel like an above average E1 or even E0 Firefly user would do better.
It does pain me to see that play, I could run even better with Asta compare to this.
then do it, try it, see how it goes.
Ngl even Tectone can do this better, i can't believe i've to says this lol
For players who haven’t actually played pvp, it’s hard to understand. The pressure on each move is so high and it’s alot easier to backseat or see what to do in hindsight, but I would say around 70%+ of the 100s of runs I’ve seen end up losing based on a small mistake and rushing. There’s so much to consider, and the other thing is experienced players like in this video (I’m a tourist, these ppl plays 1000s of games) they know exactly the dmg and rotations and maybe make decisions that seem wierd but really it makes sense. Like trying a weird strat since they know the obvious move won’t actually work in practice
So yes it wasn’t the best run but that’s like blaming a bball player for missing an easy free throw when the whole discord is spamming emotes
That run was anti-FF propaganda, was Rappa herself playing??????
Firefly’s existence is anti-FF propaganda
MrPokke, when are we getting married?
🤔🤫
Interesting
I think the ff side two is actually harder than it looks, since we are missing ruanmei which really tanks her dmg and only having 15 ignore (e1) and sw single target debuffs that dont hold up as good in todays meta. i saw only some missplays and thats it.
both teams did fine
The topaz run was lowkey cinema but that guy using Firefly is stalling like crazy
I hope everyone pulling for Fugue on Christmas has there pulls blessed! Merry Christmas everyone!
Merry Christmas!!❤
Merry Christmas but I'm broke, got no stellar😢
Thanks man!
Thanks man...
Merry Christmas 🎉🎂
That Firefly clear was so painful to watch
What he should have done after wave 1 of the Firefly run is. Sit back, grab a drink and turn on autoplay
havent laughed this hard in a while. thank you firefly player for this nuclear gameplay
other than the topaz run this was a trainwreck
I would legit have been less upset watching Box2 or even the AI play the firefly run instead of Vino... dude burnt the neighborhood atp
Merry Christmas! Always enjoy the PVP tourneys
That last run from Vino guy must be sharing same braincell from Box2
wtf was that FF run 😭😭
20:25 bruh, bro could've skilled Fu Xuan to break
Where is the hsr draft stuff done.
So now, is e1s1 firefly or e2s0 firefly more worth investing?
S1 Ff is never worth it
e2s0 100%
s1 is luxury pull
that yunli and ff run is an all timer
i know ff players usually turn their brain off (because i usually do), but omg... ruan mei not being there is an issue yes, but that man has e2 ff which should allow hmc to spam his skill
smartest firefly main
As a firefly main, that play was painful to watch. The stalling was insane and the misplays were driving me mad.
What is interesting is that I tried the same exact team and I could not do better. I either tied or did worse after 10 or so retries. Mainly because it was just completely impossible to 0 cycle the first side for me. I could barely 1 cycle it.
7:10 am I the only one who after clicking multiple ults, puts the game in auto just so the flow of animation is smoother and i dont have to click during their pose?
Fugue Edition when?
HMM
@@SerraAbyssAlisaris Do it Serra BEGGING
But can he bless Pokke with The Blessings of Sunday?
Question I have 3 DDD and only 1 of them is leveled. Should I super impose it to S3 or level all 3 so I can have multiple supports with DDD
2 is enough most of the time
Aint no way sw still used nowadays honestly anyone is a better pick than her lol
this is the first time i stressing in a pokke brawl video, like 60% of the contestant plays really bad lol
I can already see people using that clip of the Firefly team to show how "bad" she is
On the contrary, I think this shows how strong she is if this is the average Firefly player pulling down her statistics lmao
@@radicalsad I think it shows how underestimated her difficulty is to the point that most of her players just play with their brains turned off💀
@@radicalsad true
What having no RM does to a MF 💀💀💀
Boothill and rappa > firefly
Love your vids man
Yunli is literally rated the same tier of Acheron btw
Not having the Robin with JY team was the diff and Aventurine o7 run non the less. I did an 0 cycle with Aventurine Robin Sunday JY with the 133/134 speed tuning of Sunday and JY letting him do 10 stacks every single hit on LL. That being say dmg Topass popping off as main DPS with Sunday is hilarious to watch.
I have the exact same team and I could only get the same score as him using an E0S1 JY, E0S1 Sunday, E0S0 Robin, and E0S0 Huohuo with a 136/135 speed tuned team. Gear can make all the difference. The best possible run I ever managed to do was 27 cycles remaining. Usually it is 26 because Svarog messes someone up.
@@AzureDrag0n1 yea on all E0's 3 cycles is about right my Robin is E2S1 and Sunday E1S0 Aventurine S0E0 running Gepi's LC and JY being E0S1 with that new set that buffs his skill dmg/ult dmg over the 20% follow up dmg set managed to get him an 70/220 crit ratio while farming for Sunday's set and Aventurine himself adds a lot over the fight. Unfortunately HwaHwa don't bring much to the table that a bit of energy and the att buff is negligible if you can survive instead of her try an Galiger or Lingsha and might get an better result. But over all on E0 3 cycles is great non the less.
This firefly footage was hard af to watch the stalling then missplays. I can 1 cycle this side with the same cost.
Who the hell thinks of using Yunli on a 2nd half that only has 1 enemy that somewhat attacks at all? Bro should've just went Critsha at that point.
This is the Christmas present for me 😌
That FF side was painful.
merry christmas yalls
The FF run wasnt actually all THAT bad, the stalling pissed me off, but given they had to replace ruan mei with SW it was definitely not an awful run like folks keep saying; then again, I dont have FF so idk, but I DO have yunli and that run felt god awful to watch
That firefly gameplay was Rappa propaganda because what is that
E6 Clara would have done better for Haya
I love your content bro
He could've used hunt march instead of silverwolf
The last gameplay was so painfull to watch...
Dislike for Sunday Jesus comparison dude come on he's our lord and savior brother love you man
Lingsha Showcase, Happy Fugue Day
how are those players that bad at the game??? are they unaware how this game works after playing it for that much?
Guinaifen would’ve cooked harder instead of FF sadge. Bad RNG hard luck
I dislike this video because of the firefly guy but pokke you good 👍 keep it up king
Edit: because of the stall. No hate towards the actual person.
Vino rivaling serras double sustain argenti run for worst pvp run of all time
Nah that Harmony MC is so bad, the super break damage is non-existent dude, he's making FF looks so bad😭
The yunli play was just obnoxious to watch
honkai stallrail
I mean these runs were in fact painful to watch but...not exactly because of the players (ur cringe af if ur blatantly hating on the players themselves)...it's the fkn game or rather game state...as much as a i love the combat of hsr and i do genuinely think it's still massively underrated...the way these characters are designed (especially with team comps in mind)...they are ALL feast or famine...all of em. In this context that also includes the hypercarry carry topaz specifically. Regular topaz is still chilling at the top of the fua sup dps no matter where u put er.
Take robin out that topaz takes an extra cycle maybe 2...jy had multiple tools ripped from him plus he can't be ran as slow JY for the reasons shown here (very restrictive ,no?) ...yunli was a diabolical pick ngl but, if she's this superb dps that's better than acheron apparently (ur high af) then why did she eat dick vs that moc floor when acheron actually eats that floor in 2 ults (with sustain)...it's the famine part of her gameplay (easily replicable as well unfortunately).
FF had a core fundamental team memeber ripped from er, which once again fked the entire team up (not just FF) and the game is designed atp with ruan mei in mind...is what it is.
The players carry sum "blame" in this for sure...but for a one and done competition...not all of it is on them.
Get of that highhorse dick maybe?
Stop pausing the video every five seconds
Everyone is blaming the fireflop player, but no one is blaming the character herself. If anything, this goes to show how mediocre fireflop is. Bish literally had e2 + shared hp + weakness yet did so horribly. Top 3 dps my a**.
lol sure buddy, when firefly can 5 cost 0 cycle that boss when the player knows what they're doing. Sure keep telling yourself it's the unit problem and not the player 🤡
@@unendingvoidRappa does this with 3 cost only. Reducing it to 2 cost once Fugue releases. Something Firefraud will never achieve. He honestly deserves this loss for picking Firefraud over Rappa
@ceizhore4498 Rappa 3 costing a boss that's made for her? Colour me surprised lmao. That 3 cost is also extreme rng btw, to make sure all the energy is perfect. Acheron can 3 cost that boss with less rng. Idk who you think you're glazing. Also nobody was making any comparisons here. Bring Rappa to any ST focused boss, whether it's Svarog or hoolay or aventurine and see how she does compared to FF, or worse, boothill
Rent. Free. Stay mad lil bro
@@unendingvoid Rappa clearing Firefraud with lower cost even in blast content when Fugue comes out? Color me surprised!!
stay mad, Rappa lives rent free in your head + Rappa outsold
@@unendingvoid You must be bad at the game if you can only 3 cost 0 cycle with Acheron. Acheron clears with 1 cost on side 2. Boothill and Rappa clear Firefraud in every single content with MUCH lower cost. You cannot find me 1 content Firefly does better
Im dead
Yall are all speaking in hindsight lmao, stop hating on bro, he might not even be a FF main. Remember, this is PvP, they are drafting based on what little options they have.
Man
After Sunday's banner is over I can proudly say that
I skipped him and got e0s1 Fugue (won 50 50 in 79 and 75 25 in 8 pulls) my Acheron can finally exit the abyss she was in since JQ came out (because I don't have him)
wtf with this FF run the guy just wasting time by switiching targets without any reason
The most dirty chinese i have ever seen because he is disgustingly fake