Congress did not negotiate for our Independence ?
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- In this podcast, Kushal speaks with Abhijit Iyer-Mitra about the state of left-wing politics in India. They look at the quality of discourse inside the left-wing on a socio-political level and share their views about the future of the left in light of the rise of Hindutva consciousness amongst the average Indian masses.
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00:00:00 - intro
00:02:55 - is the left dead ?
00:08:10 - what is the Congress, it's ideas and future
00:59:17 - QnA
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Well this proves the argument "History is written by the victors", looses are thrown in the waste paper basket.
No only in India. Western people don't lie among themselves. Indians say this is my belief and this is yours, In the west their is only one truth. Indian leaders have also been liars
I was eagerly looking forward for this being a live with aim as i am his huge fan. Unfortunately this is just an old video.
Which video is this
@@User_877 the last live with aim that kushal did
Indian History need to be re written by New set of Young historians . (without bias of left or Hindutva). All Hard facts, Talks with british shd be properly taught. Right now Indian history is written with POV on Congress. We need History with POV on "Indian State and Nation".
And the b@rb@rity of the desert cult should be taught...
The history before 1000 AD should be properly covered...
@@weird_philosopher
Not all of them were that bad if u think from a neutral perspective as the comment says without inclination to roght or left wing.
Akbar was good leader I have read about him .Infact he ended many of the hinduphobic laws like collection of special taxes fro being non Muslim. But these were bought by aurangzeb later obviously he was a barbaric invader. But akbar was really good. Infact 4-5 members from his nav ratna were hindu. His special musician was Tansen who written many things about akbar . I read it he was truly a secular person and was not like today's sickulars. U can compare his thought with shivaji maharaj.
We need to declassify the files and communication between the British leadership and different Indian leadership members
@tejasamrutkar2544 you can't exactly call Akbar a Muslim by Muslim standards. He was a reformist. If he was not the emperor he would have been outcasted as a kafir for his deen e illahi, just like how they did with Bulleh Shah.
@@weird_philosopher barbariasm was order of those days. Havent u watched Game of thrones. jikey paas power thi wo kuch bhi karte they.
Thank you Abhijit, for setting the record straight on many points.
Gandhi ji was a Member of INC from 1915 to about 1925. He was President in 1924, he presided over the Belgaum Congress.
I don't understand,,,, it get repeated may be not put like live....... just upload the clips so it won't come in notification as live video
Jay shree Ram bhaiya 🙏🏼
Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose INA force British to leave India 🇮🇳
Also a very simplistic way to look at it.
Yes, that would be the short way of saying the truth. The slightly longer form would mention the naval mutiny that actually resulted in Indian independence.
Over simplification
Well it was Subhash Chandra Bose and INA trails which led the Naval Mutiny but it all went in Vain.
@@sunnymitra6372 how was it in vain? We got our independence, no? I agree that it wasn't ideal. But neither was the naval mutiny futile. Without them, we wouldn't have become independent in '47.
Where can I find the link the the full video? I can't find it on the carvaka homepage. A link would be really good
Thank you Pradeep Bhandari ji and Abhijeet Chanda ji, Pradeep ji please let us know about Baramati, Pawar Sr ka kya hoga?
Congress joined electoral politics only after simon commision. There too jinnah got all 10 of its demands. Where as congress couldnt get even 10% of their demands.
Congress back stabbed VO chidambaram pillai and family by not getting his assets back.
It is a great idea to cut short your long form content and create a specific topic videos out of it.
day1 please let me be in your podcast I want to clear the doubts about congress and gandhiji
I thought this was a session with AIM 😢
veer sawarkar bhi nikla tha desh azaad karwane par raste me talwar tej karwane ruk gaya usme der ho gayi tab tak gandhiji me desh azaad karwa liya 😂 our biggest achievement in modern history of this world is indian independence from such long rule you know why ? cos it was largely bloodless . they just simply call it A or B or C or D or alpha gama reasons but we achieved it.
Nice joke next time madrassa se nhi actual history padh ke aaan
Saaaar We got Independence in 2014 Saaar ❤❤💪💪💪 Congress-Bad Bad Saaar.....Real Freedom Fighter- Savarkar, Golwarkar, Nathuram 💪💪🗡🗡⚔️
When will Turkic Invasion part 4 comming????
Soon if you don't vote for the BJP😌.
@@NaDadiga😂😂 nice one
@@NaDadiga😂😂
This is what happens when you don't read any books. Swaraj party was a sub-party under Congress. They contested elections as a part of Congress. Motilal Nehru didn't leave Congress to join Swarajists.
Gandhi was a primary member of Congress and later he even presided Congress in Belgam.
In 1946, elections were held where Congress was the biggest party and that's why they formed government, it was not a "handing over" by the British. Please, read a fucking book.
Let's remember what RSS was doing during the independence and compare their actions along with the congress.
Dr K B Hedgewar, the founder of RSS was a prominent Congress leader in Nagpur.
Hedgewar joined the Civil Disobedience Movement
jailed for nine months. When Hedgewar was released in July 1922, a public reception was organised in his honour, which was addressed by senior Congress leaders like Motilal Nehru.
The RSS was started in 1925 as a non-political socio-cultural organisation. However, the volunteers were encouraged to participate in the freedom movement. The oath accorded to the RSS functionaries used to begin with the phrase “Rashtra ko Swatantra Kar” - ‘By Liberating the Nation’.
During the “Jungle Satyagraha” in 1930, Hedgewar and eleven other colleagues were arrested and sentenced to nine months imprisonment. The local Congress had organised a rally in support of Hedgewar. A report of the CP & Berar Police stated that Hedgewar’s participation had invigorated the movement, leading to the first order against the RSS. A report of the Home Department stated, “Of late, the Sangh has started taking interest in political movements of the country, as a result of which the CP government in their circular letter No 2352-2158 IV; dated 15/16 December 1932, was compelled to issue an order warning government servants of the communal and political nature of the Sangh, and forbidding their becoming members or participating in the organisation’s activities.”
When the 2nd World War broke out, the RSS refused to support the government inviting its wrath once again
Quit India was an important, but hastily planned movement. The RSS cadres had dominated the Congress protests during the movement in places where they were strong. In Chimur and Ashti tehsils of CP, the police brutality on RSS volunteers had resulted in killing some while many were sent to jail.
Orders were issued for banning camps. A Home Department official, GA Ahmed, noted on December 13, 1943, that “This will hit the RSS most”. The training camps were raided, and cadres arrested.
When Gandhi came to the refugee camps in Delhi teeming with hapless millions, he was impressed by the work of the RSS volunteers. He called the RSS “a well-organised and well-disciplined body”
Everyone knows history written by whom who didn't even credited Subash Chandra Bose why would they credit rss when nehru was against rss
Sources:- the wire( most antihindu website)
British/European/Christian invaders were fascist killers and had killed or sidelined all nationalists!! Congress led by Nehru were British book lickers!!
Bhai jab se Nehru, Bose like youngster in 1920s active hue Dominon status nhi Poorna swaraj ka chahat sura hua matwalo me.
As aspected from podcast historian who don't even know clearly following>
1)1st Round table(RT) congress not joined they joined 2nd and Gandhi represented them.
2) swaraj party of motilal was backed by congress,even they adopted resolution to support it in upcoming election post monte reform.
And3) many thing happen bw 1920s and early 30s NCM,CDM,vaikom satyagrah,simon comission protest.And famous one Lahore resolution and independence day pleadge of 26 jan for complete independence .
Half knowledge se job nhi milta college me to edhar aakar kuchh bhi phhenk do😅
I think we got our independence because of Germany... Ww2
Here's some reality check guys: (I request you to please read full🙏🙏🙏)
India is 5th richest country by GDP but our GDP per capita is less than Venezuela, Srilanka, Bhutan, Bangladesh, Namibia, Congo and other African countries. So basically, we are counted as poor country.
For those who will counter me with PPP, go check out our PPP per capita is also less than Srilanka, Mongolia, Bhutan, Namibia, Congo and other African countries and Bangladesh's have nearly same as of us.
And for those who will counter me with population... I acknowledge that our population is huge but let's have some dignity, at least our per capita should be more than those bankrupt and poor nation around the world otherwise if Bangladesh's population and size were same as of us, they would also have claimed to be the next superpower, then what's the difference between us and countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh.
I don't hate India even I concerned more than anyone else about my beloved country. I used to take pride in everything India did good and used to live around my own created dream world and fantasy that my India is superpower and whole world revolves around us. And then one day I saw all the indexes which is used to measure development of any country like GDP per capita, Human development index, Hunger index, literacy rate, women participation, wealth distribution etc. and I found that in all these rankings India always secured around 130-120th spot out of 150 nations, which is even less than countries to whom which we consider poor and in every ranking we compare ourselves to Pakistan and will be happy to see Pakistan rankings behind us.
Then I realized that our competition isn't with China instead our competition is with Bangladesh, Pakistan and African nations. We can only compete with China in population and in other indexes we don't even stand in front of China.
If you are ignorant and don't want to see reality, ignore it but this is the reality of our India. I hope it'll be better, but it doesn't seem to be so quick. 😭😭😭 World laughs when we claim ourselves as superpower😢😢😢
So, what's the problem and solution:
Well, India's demography is not same as of others in the world, we have enormous diversity. Like in every state in India the culture changes, language changes, dresses and custom changes, skin color changes, religious belief changes, ideology changes and many more things. Still, we are united and live under the umbrella of democracy. That's why because of such diversity the issues arise like caste politics, religion politics, fundamentalism etc. and politician keep these people illiterate to exploit them. And the huge amount of corruption by the politicians and bureaucracy halts the development of country. For example, every developmental project in India used to take 10-15 years only for the paperwork and permissions and sometimes even more than 30-40 years, like recently opened 'Mumbai Trans Harbour Link' which is completed after 34 years.
Apart from politics in India the major developmental projects stop or delayed because of local protests from activists, NGOs, tribals and opposition.
So, I simply want to say that our diversity and democracy in which we take pride is actually stopping our progress.
If we really want to surpass China, we have to rethink our social structure and have to stop democratic system and adopt centralization, one-party system like China and that one party should be 'BJP'(although not everyone is good in BJP but they are way more better than others because, we don't have any other options).
Yes we way atleast 50 years behind China. Look at the China's high speed railway network, it has length of 45,000+ kms operational and what we have... zero "0" operational.
This is all due to the Congress government which didn't focus on India's infrastructure😢😢😢
I don't agree with you , I assume you don't live in China hence i will also assume that you know nothing about how Chinese people are living and historically what they have been through. Do some research on China's wealth disparity and specially the level of hard work they have done in the past.
--I don't care about non economic Ranking given by international organization because some those ranking puts india below pak , afg and I am smart enough to know that is not the Reality.
--I don't think our diversity is stopping us to become a economic superpower, I would also disagree that putting China like Gov structure will help us. India and china can only be compared in terms of populationsize other then that India and Chinese people are completely different. Our Ideologies are different, Our cultures, Our way of thinking, objectivity ,geography basically every thing is different. In this country putting communism will have far greater disadvantages then its benefits. You can see congress time, before 1991 India was basically a pro Muslim communist country.
--I think if you put India's socially diverse structure In any country with any kind gov, I don't think you will have a better result then you have right now.
--I think when people critsize India , they forget that we are only 76 year old democracy, with 1.5 billion people. when we got independence we had extreme poverty, we had more then 75 percent of illiteracy and many more social-economical problems and even after that In last 76 year even with communist congress gov what we have achieved is REMARKABLE. When INDIA got independence no one expected that INDIA will stay united and democratic. what we manage to do is a remarkable success.
--I personally don't believe that a country should prioritize economical development over social or cultural development. I believe in holistic approach for development which is slow but consistent and which make sure that we don't lose our identity when we reach a certain level of economic prosperity.
--If we want to compete with China or any other country we need to seriously work on education department. Even current MODI gov haven't done much in this sector. I am not only talking about bookish education.
Aachieve
If Bangladesh had the same population as ours then they would still have half our gdp...
To increase GDP you need to attract more investment... Just by increasing population you can't increase your GDP... It's pretty basic knowledge...
I love that you tried to stay grounded... But saying that what's the difference between us and Pakistan is totally illiterate statement...
Having a population one sixth of ours and still lagging behind per capita income with that much inflation is terrible...
A country where people die in stampedes for atta and sell women to Chinese and don't even have money for polio vaccines can't be compared to a country which provided food to 800 million people during covid even in our worst nightmare...
And unless your source of information is random Twitter accounts then you should know that no sensible Indian claims that we are a superpower NOW...
It's your western media and conferences which keep calling India a NASCENT superpower which we are...
So saying that 'world laughs at us' is an example of typical Indian inferiority complex filled with colonial hangover...
Dekhte hn Kushi bhai kya justification leke aate hn 😈
Abhijit is just another Dhruv Rathee
If propaganda had face that would be yours
Propaganda has a face and it is printed on our currency
@@geraltissuperman1749 Han to dandi March ko bhi fake bol doge tum, Bose ne 20 saal.congress main kaam kia, Patel ne 40+ saal... Unke upppar kya rai hai tumhari ? Wo bhi propoganda kar rahe they
Congress to banayi hi angrez ne thi 🙄😏😒@@kr8s
@@mayankindian3750 banayi to railway bhi angrej ne thi ... Tod dete Hain usko ?
@@kr8s kyu tod de kandhe pe leke aaye the angrez bakaida khoon chusa hai bhartiyo ka tujhe badi padi hai angrezo ki
என்னா இவ்வளவு புழுவுறாங்க..பேச நா ரெண்டுடையாய் போற்றி
Isase bada foohadpan aur propaganda kuch nahi ho sakta. Inko kitni rishwat mili hai ye sab propaganda failane ke liye😂😂😂😂
abe k2ay counter-proof de
7 crore 🎉
50 crore
Bas 2-4 padam mil jate hai.
Abe tum madrassa main padho
Aur hummain azaadi mughloin ne dilai hai
Yeh sab jhoot bol rhy hain
RSS के लोगों से ये 16 प्रश्न आप कीजिए
इनके जवाब ये लोग नहीं दे पाएंगे।
उल्टा आपको गाली देंगे या ब्लॉक करके भाग जायेंगे
या विरोधियों का फोटोशॉप पोस्ट डालेंगे,
पर फिर भी आप ये सवाल करते रहें--
(1) RSS ने आज़ादी की लड़ाई क्यों नहीं लड़ी❓
(2)हिन्दू हित की बात करता है और उसकी वेशभूषा विदेशी क्यों है❓
(3) सुभाषचन्द्र बोस आज़ाद हिन्द सेना का गठन कर रहे थे, तब संघ ने सेना में शामिल होने से हिन्दू युवकों को क्यों रोका❓
(4) संघ के ‘वीर’ सावरकर अंग्रेजों को 6 माफ़ीनामे देकर जेल से क्यों छूटे, जबकि 436 लोग और थे सेलुलर जेल में सिर्फ इन्होंने ही क्यों माफ़ीनामे लिखे? ऐसी क्या विपदा आ गई थी❓
(5) RSS के पहले 1925 में प्रथम अधिवेशन मेंं द्विराष्ट्र सिद्धान्त - हिन्दू राष्ट्र और मुस्लिम राष्ट्र का प्रस्ताव क्यों पारित किया गया, जबकि संघ अखंड भारत की बात करता है❗
(6) 1942 में असहयोग आंदोलन का संघ ने बहिष्कार क्यों किया? और संघ ने इससे सम्बन्धित पत्र ब्रिटिश गवर्नमेंट को क्यों लिखा ? अगर ये पत्र न लिखते तो देश 1942 में आज़ाद हो जाता❓
(7) गांधी जी की हत्या के प्रयास संघ आज़ादी के पूर्व से कर रहा था, क्यों ? गांधी जी पर आज़ादी के पूर्व 5 बार संघियों ने हमले किये, क्यों❓
(8) संघ प्रमुख केशव बलिराम हेडगेवार ने कहा था कि हिंदुओ को अपनी ताकत का उपयोग अंगेजों के खिलाफ न करते हुए देश में मुस्लिम, क्रिश्चियन और दलितों के खिलाफ करना चाहिए, ऐसा क्यों❓
(9) कहते हैं कि दो धार्मिक शक्तियाँ एक-दूसरे के खिलाफ काम करती हैं तो देश टूटने की कगार पर होता है संघ और मुस्लिम लीग एक दूसरे के विपरीत थीं, इस कारण देश टूटा संघ तो अखंड भारत की बात करता है, फिर ऐसा क्यों हुआ❓
(10) RSS हिन्दू हित की बात करती है 1925 से 1947 के बीच ईसाई धर्मान्तरण के खिलाफ कोई आंदोलन क्यों नही चलाया❓
(11) 15 अगस्त, 1947 को जब देश आजाद हुआ तब संघ के लोग राष्ट्रध्वज तिरंगे को पैरों तले कुचल रहे थे, तिरंगे को जला रहे थे, क्यों❓
(12) संघ के स्वयंसेवक अटल बिहारी वाजपेयी ने क्रान्तिकारी लीलाधर वाजपेयी के खिलाफ क्यों गवाही दी ? जिससे उन्हें 2 वर्ष का कारावास हुआ❓
(13) पिछड़े, दलित, आदिवासी भी संघी हेैं, तो नासिक के काला राम मंदिर में प्रवेश मुद्दे पर डॉ. भीमराव आंबेडकर जी ने जो आन्दोलन किया था, उसका विरोध क्यों किया❓
(14) संघ द्वारा हिन्दू समाज के हित में किया गया कोई एक कार्य बतायें, जिससे हिन्दू समाज के निम्नवर्ग का तबका लाभान्वित हुआ हो❓
(15) संघ के लोग अपने आपको राष्ट्रवादी समझते हैं इन्होंने 1925 से 1947 के बीच वन्देमातरम् का नारा क्यों नहीं लगाया ?अंग्रेजों का इतना डर था क्या❓
(16) संघ/विहिप/और अन्य हिंदूवादी संगठन के प्रमुख दलित, आदिवासी या पिछड़ा वर्ग से क्यों नहीं बने?
क्या ये हिन्दू नहीं हैं❓
कृपया इन सवालों के जवाब जरूर पूछियेगा जरूर