Not every Black Belt (in Martial Arts in general) is on the level of a say... a Gracie or Gordon Ryan. Sometimes a Black Belt is someone who is not a great athlete, but has pushed themselves (and their teammates) for years and make the gym/dojo a better place to be. So many people focus on getting in a class and getting a belt. When it should be about the journey.
Rogan got his blue and purple belts when he wasn’t even a celebrity at all. He got his brown belt when he was in show-business but wasn’t like this big time celebrity. He sat at brown belt for an insanely long time compared to most. He’s legit. As far as saying JJM doesn’t give “celebrity” belts? Well, I can tell you for sure Rigan Machado does indeed have separate classes for celebrities, and I think Jean Jacques does as well. I do understand to a point why that is though. Case in point: I train at a gym in Florida, and it’s a legitimate MMA/BJJ gym. We have many amateur fighters and have had a few pros, and we have UFC fighters and other martial artists come in to train. We recently had Mason Fowler and Gillian Roberts. Helio “Soneca” Moreira is our lineage. So, we had a celebrity come in a few times to train, and I don’t recall who it was, but he was well known enough that when a few of us went to town with him to pick up a few things, people kept stopping him for photos. It was fine, he was cool with it. But I do recall that some of our people (we many almost 300 members) wanted to roll with this guy. It was all ok, except for a few people actually seemed to want to HURT him. It was weird. Normally nice people rolling with this guy going way too hard for no reason. He held his own and handled it well but I see why some celebrities might want private lesions or to train with a select group.
Those people who wanted to hurt the celeb have massive egos. They just want a story to tell "Oh I broke XYZ celebrity's arm" hoping they end up with some sort of notoriety. Pathetic pussies
And same point goes for now that Zuck has started training. When new video or article of him training comes up, those cool "leave your ego at the door" and "all are equal in the mats despite where you come for" bjj people are circle jerking in the comment sections and visualising how they would hurt and fuck up Zuck if they get the opportunity to roll with him where they just could appreciate the fact how good it is for the sport in the grand scheme of things.
Calling Rogan not a celebrity when he started training is stretching the truth. He was one of the main characters on a sitcom called NewsRadio from ‘95 to ‘00. He wasn’t a big deal, but he was fairly well known.
@@mulkosilma Zuck might be different. Dude was selling peoples’ information for money and political influence and hiding it and lying about it. I wouldn’t do anything to try to hurt him myself but I can understand people having an axe to grind. Shit, if Biden started training I’d gladly fuck that guy up and smile about it.
@@elliottwallace I remember News Radio but being “Joe the handyman” on News Radio wasn’t going to get him all of the Hollywood perks. That’s C list celebrity status on the best of days. Plus, back then BJJ was still the grimy garage grind. He went to train first at Rickson’s place and then switched to JJM. I doubt either of those places were giving celebrity treatment at all, let alone to Joe the Handyman from News Radio. Nowadays, I know for a fact that Rigan Machado and JJ both have separate training opportunities for celebrities.
Talking about older men in Jiu-jitsu, I remember at 19 years old I was training with a guy I would have to say in his late 50s or early 60s, somewhere in that area, and he wiped the floor with me. I went in all cocky too.
Meanwhile I'm a 36 yr old who started BJJ about 2 months ago. The difference in strength and endurance to other white belts in their mid 20s makes me downright depressed when I get on my car after the class 😂
I live down the street from Jean Jacques have been there many times and trained with all his first ten black belts including Eddie it’s a great lineage anytime I go to another gym the level is far below other than world glass champion gyms like Romulo Gracie barra or something
For the record, not giving someone a "Celebrity Belt" does not actually mean they do not give a celebrity a belt or doesnt train them. It means they have to actually EARN it like everyone else. No politics and they treat you like the other students. Some of you took that term in a literal sense and made me 😂. On the flip, if a professor GIVES someone a "Celebrity Belt" that means they did NOT earn it and got it because of who they are or who they know:o) Oooooos
Why is this a question? Joe is legit in his jiu-jitsu unlike Kutcher and Demi Lovato. Paul Walker, Ed O'Neil, Sean Patrick Flanery, Mario Lopez are also legit in their rank. Rigan should be ashamed of exchanging a lot of money for belt promotions.
I remember when wrestling legend Matt Lindland asked him to face him because he thought his punches were weak and this is what terrified Joe at that moment.
Guys joe has been a black belt since before most people knew what Bjj even was. Post 2015 yea everyone knows what it is but not when he was doing it back in the 90s
@@dredned true but that doesn’t mean he didn’t earn a legit black belt. If he where a rando everyone would be praising him for achieving such a thing. Even if he doesn’t roll a lot anymore.
dude, get real. i started bjj in 97 and i was in the 2nd class of americans doing it maybe 3rd. ufc 1 was 1993. the dirty dozen all had their BB by then. Bravo was a purple when i met him late 90's early 2000s
Thanks for not explaining why machado only uses one hand for grips. I had to leave the video to research why then return to your video so I could understand with context. Please don’t assume everyone understands what the hell your talking about.
”EFFECTIVELY only has one hand”. That could mean a million different things. Effectively means he doesn’t have to the ability to use one hand. I want context of why so I can understand and follow their conversation.
@@dredned You are conflating being legit with elite. Legit doesn't mean pro level or champion level. No one is saying Joe would have been smashing A and S tier guys at comps. But if you're gonna sit there and say Joe isn't smashing other black belts who aren't professionals or in the active comp circuit you're being willfully ignorant.
@@gunslngrxero there is more footage of Zuckerberg doing jiu jitsu out there than there is of Joe. There is a reason for this. Don’t believe everything you hear.
At the end of the day, belts are political and do not have meaning.meaning. you could be the best Brazilian jiu-jitsu practitioner in the world and only be a brown belt because the coach doesn't like something about you
@@PeterTeal77 it means don't take too much Credence and belts. You could be a black belt for years and get tapped out by someone with far less experience. Or someone who goes around to a lot of different gyms because his life just leave them down that road and they don't get established, they could still f*** you up
No such thing as a hobbyist black belt. You don't have to compete to be a black belt. Martial arts is used for self defense and real life combat. It's not a sport.
he may be legit now training under danaher, but yeah from the way he spoke years ago he didn't seem too high level, good blue belt if i'd have to guess
@@natty.chungus I tapped him about 300 times over the course of our training. He also would shit his pants all the time… like we’d literally be rolling, and he’d just shit in his rash guard. Disgusting.
Rogan got his black belt from JJM in 2012, long before his podcast was even close to the level it is now. He’d been training in BJJ about 15 years before that. He’s a legit black belt and good grappler, with or without the gi
@@dredned me personally, no. He earned his black belt long before it became fashionable for celebrities to train and get ‘promoted’. I’d venture to say that any of high level grapplers or coaches who come through his podcast doors would vouch for that black belt of his being earned. And in terms of steroids, just look at any of the 88kg and above weight classes and tell me the top grapplers in the world at those weights aren’t juicing.
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Never thought I’d see a random Chael Sonnen comment with 7 likes
How is this not pinned?
@@nathantalks9299 for real
Chael, I run this MMA media game
joe rogan is so good he even challenged 27 world bjj champion, renado laranja
That dudes my uncle😏
@@LuckyCJyou must have 900000 cousins
Hoe Hogan
Laranja needed the match win to pay child supportch
I miss that dude! Where's he at?
The moment I saw Ashton Kutcher roll as a brown belt, I realised there is such a thing as a celebrity belt…
Is there a video of him rolling
@@kev9385 yes
@@santanaurias3112 i wanna seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
And dude was rolling with craig jones lol
@@atarizdYeah lmao, that guy can make anyone look like a whitebelt
This is Gabe Tuttle, head coach at 10th Planet Austin 👌.
Gabes the man!! I went to a few of his classes when I was in San Diego and he was a brown belt.
Not every Black Belt (in Martial Arts in general) is on the level of a say... a Gracie or Gordon Ryan. Sometimes a Black Belt is someone who is not a great athlete, but has pushed themselves (and their teammates) for years and make the gym/dojo a better place to be. So many people focus on getting in a class and getting a belt. When it should be about the journey.
I'm not talking about Joe Rogan here, just in general lol Joe is a legit athlete and accomplished martial artist no matter what anyone says.
Yeah thanks!!! Tell us more captain obvious
1000% correct on that one.
Rogan got his blue and purple belts when he wasn’t even a celebrity at all. He got his brown belt when he was in show-business but wasn’t like this big time celebrity. He sat at brown belt for an insanely long time compared to most. He’s legit. As far as saying JJM doesn’t give “celebrity” belts? Well, I can tell you for sure Rigan Machado does indeed have separate classes for celebrities, and I think Jean Jacques does as well. I do understand to a point why that is though. Case in point:
I train at a gym in Florida, and it’s a legitimate MMA/BJJ gym. We have many amateur fighters and have had a few pros, and we have UFC fighters and other martial artists come in to train. We recently had Mason Fowler and Gillian Roberts. Helio “Soneca” Moreira is our lineage. So, we had a celebrity come in a few times to train, and I don’t recall who it was, but he was well known enough that when a few of us went to town with him to pick up a few things, people kept stopping him for photos. It was fine, he was cool with it. But I do recall that some of our people (we many almost 300 members) wanted to roll with this guy. It was all ok, except for a few people actually seemed to want to HURT him. It was weird. Normally nice people rolling with this guy going way too hard for no reason. He held his own and handled it well but I see why some celebrities might want private lesions or to train with a select group.
Those people who wanted to hurt the celeb have massive egos. They just want a story to tell "Oh I broke XYZ celebrity's arm" hoping they end up with some sort of notoriety. Pathetic pussies
And same point goes for now that Zuck has started training. When new video or article of him training comes up, those cool "leave your ego at the door" and "all are equal in the mats despite where you come for" bjj people are circle jerking in the comment sections and visualising how they would hurt and fuck up Zuck if they get the opportunity to roll with him where they just could appreciate the fact how good it is for the sport in the grand scheme of things.
Calling Rogan not a celebrity when he started training is stretching the truth. He was one of the main characters on a sitcom called NewsRadio from ‘95 to ‘00. He wasn’t a big deal, but he was fairly well known.
@@mulkosilma Zuck might be different. Dude was selling peoples’ information for money and political influence and hiding it and lying about it. I wouldn’t do anything to try to hurt him myself but I can understand people having an axe to grind. Shit, if Biden started training I’d gladly fuck that guy up and smile about it.
@@elliottwallace I remember News Radio but being “Joe the handyman” on News Radio wasn’t going to get him all of the Hollywood perks. That’s C list celebrity status on the best of days. Plus, back then BJJ was still the grimy garage grind. He went to train first at Rickson’s place and then switched to JJM. I doubt either of those places were giving celebrity treatment at all, let alone to Joe the Handyman from News Radio. Nowadays, I know for a fact that Rigan Machado and JJ both have separate training opportunities for celebrities.
Went to a seminar of Jean Jacques..... Life changing, that man was born to be a jiujitsu God.
Talking about older men in Jiu-jitsu, I remember at 19 years old I was training with a guy I would have to say in his late 50s or early 60s, somewhere in that area, and he wiped the floor with me. I went in all cocky too.
Meanwhile I'm a 36 yr old who started BJJ about 2 months ago. The difference in strength and endurance to other white belts in their mid 20s makes me downright depressed when I get on my car after the class 😂
True and BJJ still rules at 46
@@MacGTI6 Man that endurance part I get but if anything you should be stronger.
great video dude!
I live down the street from
Jean Jacques have been there many times and trained with all his first ten black belts including Eddie it’s a great lineage anytime I go to another gym the level is far below other than world glass champion gyms like Romulo Gracie barra or something
Joe is legit…Jon Jacque/Eddie not just handing out BB
Joe Rogan is NOT a celebrity belt ! He is legit. !
yeah, we watched the video
Black belt is about dedication to the art
For the record, not giving someone a "Celebrity Belt" does not actually mean they do not give a celebrity a belt or doesnt train them. It means they have to actually EARN it like everyone else. No politics and they treat you like the other students. Some of you took that term in a literal sense and made me 😂. On the flip, if a professor GIVES someone a "Celebrity Belt" that means they did NOT earn it and got it because of who they are or who they know:o) Oooooos
JR is legit
What about Ashton Kutcher is celebrity belted
How does it work for someone to get a black belt 2 different times?
There's different levels of black belt
@@Wavyso makes sense, thank you!
gi and nogi- two systems (10p & JJM)
@@WillReusch 10th planet bjj was developed for mma. except no mma fighters use this system at a high level lool.
Marketing purposes
Why is this a question? Joe is legit in his jiu-jitsu unlike Kutcher and Demi Lovato. Paul Walker, Ed O'Neil, Sean Patrick Flanery, Mario Lopez are also legit in their rank. Rigan should be ashamed of exchanging a lot of money for belt promotions.
Machado seems to be the one u hear that belts the celebrities
That's Rigan, Jean Jacques is another one of the Machados who trains Joe Rogan and Eddie Bravo
What about Ed Harris?
You mean Ed O'Neil? Isn't he a Royce black belt?
Petition for Joe Rogan to start his own bjj academy 🙋🏽♀️
I remember when wrestling legend Matt Lindland asked him to face him because he thought his punches were weak and this is what terrified Joe at that moment.
Guys joe has been a black belt since before most people knew what Bjj even was. Post 2015 yea everyone knows what it is but not when he was doing it back in the 90s
Jiu-Jitsu is a perishable skill, In his own words he "barley rolls anymore". Average Blue Belt in average gym gives him fits guranteed.
@@dredned true but that doesn’t mean he didn’t earn a legit black belt. If he where a rando everyone would be praising him for achieving such a thing. Even if he doesn’t roll a lot anymore.
dude, get real. i started bjj in 97 and i was in the 2nd class of americans doing it maybe 3rd. ufc 1 was 1993. the dirty dozen all had their BB by then. Bravo was a purple when i met him late 90's early 2000s
Ahhh...I guess nobody saw the video of purple belt Ashton Kutcher sparring. Dude looked like he never rolled a day in his life.
I can’t think of one celebrity black belt that got it handed to them. They usually get the soft belts until brown and spend an eternity at brown.
Cut to Ashton kutcher getting black belt tomorrow
Thanks for not explaining why machado only uses one hand for grips. I had to leave the video to research why then return to your video so I could understand with context. Please don’t assume everyone understands what the hell your talking about.
It literally says in the video 'for those who don't know, JJ has one hand'
Listen
”EFFECTIVELY only has one hand”. That could mean a million different things. Effectively means he doesn’t have to the ability to use one hand. I want context of why so I can understand and follow their conversation.
Holy shit there's actually people in the comments who think Joe Rogan isn't legit? That's absurd.
Ever hear anyine including Eddie say "Joe is a tough roll?" No? I didn't think so.
@@dredned You are conflating being legit with elite. Legit doesn't mean pro level or champion level.
No one is saying Joe would have been smashing A and S tier guys at comps. But if you're gonna sit there and say Joe isn't smashing other black belts who aren't professionals or in the active comp circuit you're being willfully ignorant.
@@gunslngrxero there is more footage of Zuckerberg doing jiu jitsu out there than there is of Joe. There is a reason for this. Don’t believe everything you hear.
@@Smitty.Bacall you know I’m fucking trolling right? LMFAO do even watch / listen to Joe Rogan?
Absurd? It's a RUclips comment section. People are here to troll and have fun, nobody truly gives a fu@k if rogan is legit or not.
Gabe is the truth 🎪
What a lame statement!
Ice cream is also the truth.
Next time have a coherent thought so you don't spew gibberish
Joe is a martial artists before he is even a celebrity. Re-word that better next time you.
Why is op hyping the machados? They train a lot of Hollywood. Renzo would have been a better choice
Jean Jacques gave Ashton kutcher a brown… he deff gives fake belts lol
Who care?? Girls
At the end of the day, belts are political and do not have meaning.meaning. you could be the best Brazilian jiu-jitsu practitioner in the world and only be a brown belt because the coach doesn't like something about you
That logic isn’t flawed at all.
There is truth to that, but it sounds like you either had shit luck with schools or are unpleasant to train with
@@PeterTeal77 I don't know why you're accusing me of these things. I simply made a statement of fact.
@@PeterTeal77 it means don't take too much Credence and belts. You could be a black belt for years and get tapped out by someone with far less experience. Or someone who goes around to a lot of different gyms because his life just leave them down that road and they don't get established, they could still f*** you up
Poor breakdown.
Joe Rogan is a hobbyist black belt, he isn't anywhere near the level of competitive black belt.
True ..but there's still levels...even high level competitive black belts can look like hobbyist compared to other black belts
@@williambolton3440 true, I was thinking about those 1% guys, those fuckers have levels inside levels 🤣
No such thing as a hobbyist black belt.
You don't have to compete to be a black belt.
Martial arts is used for self defense and real life combat. It's not a sport.
“Hobbyist black belt” as if even bluebelt is easy to earn.
Thanks, sensei.
Thanks capt obvious.
That's irrelevant to the point here.
Cringe af
I actually trained with Joe at eddies gym a few years back.. he’s not legit.
Interesting, what makes you say that?
he may be legit now training under danaher, but yeah from the way he spoke years ago he didn't seem too high level, good blue belt if i'd have to guess
@@natty.chungus I tapped him about 300 times over the course of our training. He also would shit his pants all the time… like we’d literally be rolling, and he’d just shit in his rash guard. Disgusting.
Literally makes zero sense
@@prideneverdies1001 Joe does not train under Danaher. He barely even trains anymore, but has taken some privates with Gabe at 10PATX
I highly doubt Joe rogan is a legit black belt...when does he ever have the time to train?
Lol he’s been training BJJ for like 20+ years what are you talking about?
Half of his literal day is training
Rogan got his black belt from JJM in 2012, long before his podcast was even close to the level it is now. He’d been training in BJJ about 15 years before that. He’s a legit black belt and good grappler, with or without the gi
Dude he was with Eddie when he grappled royler back in 2003….
That’s not a casual thing to do
@@dredned me personally, no. He earned his black belt long before it became fashionable for celebrities to train and get ‘promoted’. I’d venture to say that any of high level grapplers or coaches who come through his podcast doors would vouch for that black belt of his being earned. And in terms of steroids, just look at any of the 88kg and above weight classes and tell me the top grapplers in the world at those weights aren’t juicing.
he broke neil's the-ass tysonjs anti semitic arm!
Petition for Joe Rogan to start his own bjj academy 🙋🏽♀️
lol why?
@@finallyone8692took the words out of my mouth
In his spare time???