It wouldn’t if people paid attention to what the BIBLE says and not necessarily clergy! This is an excellent answer! Forward it to those who have been following man, not God’s word!
@@jesusbeloved3953 the devil wants us believers to be divided, it is healthy sometimes for Christians to have different opinions we can have unity in Christ.
@@chriscottingham20032THESS 2:1. Now we beseech you, brethren , by the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ ( before Jesus Christ comes in the clouds of glory, His coming in His saints it's called the epiphanie a corporate body of the man - child ministry, the 2 witnesses to minister to the church in the tribulation Rev 12:5,6; 2Thess 1:10, Hos 6:1-3; psalm 149:5-9; Isa 60:1,2; Acts 2:16-21; Rev 10:9-11; to preach the everlasting gospel to all creation ), and by our gathering together unto Him ( we gather unto Jesus Christ not religion nor denominations or man ) 2. That ye be not soon shaken in mind ( that's your soul area ), or be troubled, neither by spirit (wrong revelation, doctrines of demons , religious spirits , anti-christ spirit 1Jn 4:1-6; 2Jn verse 7; 2Pet 2:1-3; 1Tim 4:1 ), nor by word ( what's being preached, or taught, Lk 8:15. Jesus told His disciples to be careful with the leaven of the pharisees those are the preacher's of today, and to be careful with the leaven of herod that's your government ), nor by letter ( books, magazine's ,tracks ), as from us, as that the day of the Lord is at hand. 3. Let no man ( preacher, pastor, teacher, false prophet ) deceive ( beguile, trick you, tickle your ear ) by any means: for that day shall not come ( the coming of the Lord ), Except there come a falling away first ( Apostasy defecting from the truth, a great rebellion. 1Tim4:1; 2Tim3:1-5; 2Pet 2:3; Jude 18; Jn 6:66=666) , and the man of sin ( inside of each of us is the man of sin it's called the old man ) be revealed the son of perdition ( Judas iscariot was called the son of perdition by Jesus in Jn 17:12; Jn 13:26,27 SOP means son of perdition or destruction ). 4.Who opposeth and exalteth himself ( we must not exalt Self, the old man, the carnal man, the earthly man, the devilish man, the beastly nature of man, psalms 73:22 King David said , So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee. We must deny Self, Matt 10:38,39; and die to Self the old man has to be crucified, the book of Roman's is the 6th book in the NT, chapter 6, and verse 6=666, the old man has to be crucified, so the born again, spiritual man, born from above. Christ in you the hope of glory rules your temple) above all that is called God, or is worshipped ( man likes to be worshipped, Self likes to be worshipped, false prophets, pastors, teachers, false apostles, Christian artists, even people in the secular world etc. Just like Lucifer Isa 14:13,14; Ezek 28:1-9; 2Tim 3:1-5; 2Cor 11-1-15 ); so he as God sitteth( look where he sitteth )in the temple of God ( we are the temple of God, God does not dwell in temples made with human hands, our spiritual man is the Holy of holies, the soul is the Holy place, the body is the outer court, Acts 17:24,25; 1Cor 3:16,17; ), shewing himself ( there's that word Self ) that he is God.5. Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things ( the apostle Paul always warned the church of Christ Jesus ) ? 6. And now ye know what withholdeth ( restraineth means to hold back ) that he ( the son of perdition ) might be revealed in his time ( let's go back to verse 3 and will see when the son of perdition will be revealed at the falling away first ).7. For the mystery of iniquity ( lawlessness ) doth already work ( it was already working in Paul's day ): only he ( the Holy Ghost ) who now letteth will let, until he ( the son of perdition ) be taken out of the way, or come out of the midst ( it's a corporate body of son of perdition in the temple of Christ spiritualy speaking, just as Judas iscariot was, the disciples didn't have a clue it was Judas iscariot until he betrayed Jesus Christ with a kiss, when he dip the Sop into the dish satan entered him, and history is going to repeat itself again, the sons of perdition are going to betray the brothers to death. Matt 24:9,10 ) 8. And then shall that Wicked be revealed ( in the NT, they are corporate bodies, Jesus has His body and that's the true church in means called out one's out of religious babylonian churches . Satan also has a body and it's all the children of disobedience among the people of God, the tares, and the goat's, they have a anti christ spirit ). Whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming.9. Even him ( it's a corporate body of false prophets, Jesus said many false prophets not prophet but many would come in His name. Many serve a different Jesus and a different gospel) whose coming is after the working of Satan ( that's his body the sons of perdition 2Cor 11:4,13-15; Gal 1:6-9 )with all power and signs (all kinds of deceptions, and counterfeit,) and lying wonders.( Jesus saidm if it were possible the elect could be deceived )10. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness( 1Jn 2:15-29; James 4:4 )in them ( the apostate people of God )that perish; because they received not the love of the Truth, ( the real true Gospel , they were spiritually blind to truth Isa 66:4), that they might be saved.11. And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion, ( listen now ) that they should believe a lie ( such as a pre- rapture , pre trib rapture, once saved always saved ) : That they all might damned who believe not the Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." My brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus our Lord said He would send the comforter the Holy Ghost and He would be with us and in us, and lead us into all truth. If you have the love of the truth you will not be deceived by the false prophets, and many doctrines of religion and denominations out there. CHRIST IS NOT DIVIDED INTO RELIGION OR DENOMINATIONS. Those are babylonian churches. The Mother Harlot has many daughters, and she and her daughters persecuted Jesus and the apostles and handed them over to be Roman beast of that time. Rev 17:56; Rev 18:24, Matt 23; and history repeats itself again, it's going to happen to the church the body of Christ in the tribulation, if the church believes it or not. You ain't going to fly away, or be raptured up unless you die before the tribulation. The church of Christ Jesus will prevail and come out victoriously and give her life for the Master and Saviour Jesus Christ our Lord. Rev 6:9-11; Rev 13:7; Rev 12:11; and Rev 15:2; Rev 20:4,6
I have read several comments that say they are the same. They are NOT the same. One way to remember it is,.....in the Rapture, Christ's feet do not touch the earth. In the Second Coming, Christ's feet will touch the earth. When Jesus Christ came to the earth as a baby, was His first coming.
2THESS 2:1. Now we beseech you, brethren , by the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ ( before Jesus Christ comes in the clouds of glory, His coming in His saints it's called the epiphanie a corporate body of the man - child ministry, the 2 witnesses to minister to the church in the tribulation Rev 12:5,6; 2Thess 1:10, Hos 6:1-3; psalm 149:5-9; Isa 60:1,2; Acts 2:16-21; Rev 10:9-11; to preach the everlasting gospel to all creation ), and by our gathering together unto Him ( we gather unto Jesus Christ not religion nor denominations or man ) 2. That ye be not soon shaken in mind ( that's your soul area ), or be troubled, neither by spirit (wrong revelation, doctrines of demons , religious spirits , anti-christ spirit 1Jn 4:1-6; 2Jn verse 7; 2Pet 2:1-3; 1Tim 4:1 ), nor by word ( what's being preached, or taught, Lk 8:15. Jesus told His disciples to be careful with the leaven of the pharisees those are the preacher's of today, and to be careful with the leaven of herod that's your government ), nor by letter ( books, magazine's ,tracks ), as from us, as that the day of the Lord is at hand. 3. Let no man ( preacher, pastor, teacher, false prophet ) deceive ( beguile, trick you, tickle your ear ) by any means: for that day shall not come ( the coming of the Lord ), Except there come a falling away first ( Apostasy defecting from the truth, a great rebellion. 1Tim4:1; 2Tim3:1-5; 2Pet 2:3; Jude 18; Jn 6:66=666) , and the man of sin ( inside of each of us is the man of sin it's called the old man ) be revealed the son of perdition ( Judas iscariot was called the son of perdition by Jesus in Jn 17:12; Jn 13:26,27 SOP means son of perdition or destruction ). 4.Who opposeth and exalteth himself ( we must not exalt Self, the old man, the carnal man, the earthly man, the devilish man, the beastly nature of man, psalms 73:22 King David said , So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee. We must deny Self, Matt 10:38,39; and die to Self the old man has to be crucified, the book of Roman's is the 6th book in the NT, chapter 6, and verse 6=666, the old man has to be crucified, so the born again, spiritual man, born from above. Christ in you the hope of glory rules your temple) above all that is called God, or is worshipped ( man likes to be worshipped, Self likes to be worshipped, false prophets, pastors, teachers, false apostles, Christian artists, even people in the secular world etc. Just like Lucifer Isa 14:13,14; Ezek 28:1-9; 2Tim 3:1-5; 2Cor 11-1-15 ); so he as God sitteth( look where he sitteth )in the temple of God ( we are the temple of God, God does not dwell in temples made with human hands, our spiritual man is the Holy of holies, the soul is the Holy place, the body is the outer court, Acts 17:24,25; 1Cor 3:16,17; ), shewing himself ( there's that word Self ) that he is God.5. Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things ( the apostle Paul always warned the church of Christ Jesus ) ? 6. And now ye know what withholdeth ( restraineth means to hold back ) that he ( the son of perdition ) might be revealed in his time ( let's go back to verse 3 and will see when the son of perdition will be revealed at the falling away first ).7. For the mystery of iniquity ( lawlessness ) doth already work ( it was already working in Paul's day ): only he ( the Holy Ghost ) who now letteth will let, until he ( the son of perdition ) be taken out of the way, or come out of the midst ( it's a corporate body of son of perdition in the temple of Christ spiritualy speaking, just as Judas iscariot was, the disciples didn't have a clue it was Judas iscariot until he betrayed Jesus Christ with a kiss, when he dip the Sop into the dish satan entered him, and history is going to repeat itself again, the sons of perdition are going to betray the brothers to death. Matt 24:9,10 ) 8. And then shall that Wicked be revealed ( in the NT, they are corporate bodies, Jesus has His body and that's the true church in means called out one's out of religious babylonian churches . Satan also has a body and it's all the children of disobedience among the people of God, the tares, and the goat's, they have a anti christ spirit ). Whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming.9. Even him ( it's a corporate body of false prophets, Jesus said many false prophets not prophet but many would come in His name. Many serve a different Jesus and a different gospel) whose coming is after the working of Satan ( that's his body the sons of perdition 2Cor 11:4,13-15; Gal 1:6-9 )with all power and signs (all kinds of deceptions, and counterfeit,) and lying wonders.( Jesus saidm if it were possible the elect could be deceived )10. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness( 1Jn 2:15-29; James 4:4 )in them ( the apostate people of God )that perish; because they received not the love of the Truth, ( the real true Gospel , they were spiritually blind to truth Isa 66:4), that they might be saved.11. And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion, ( listen now ) that they should believe a lie ( such as a pre- rapture , pre trib rapture, once saved always saved ) : That they all might damned who believe not the Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." My brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus our Lord said He would send the comforter the Holy Ghost and He would be with us and in us, and lead us into all truth. If you have the love of the truth you will not be deceived by the false prophets, and many doctrines of religion and denominations out there. CHRIST IS NOT DIVIDED INTO RELIGION OR DENOMINATIONS. Those are babylonian churches. The Mother Harlot has many daughters, and she and her daughters persecuted Jesus and the apostles and handed them over to be Roman beast of that time. Rev 17:56; Rev 18:24, Matt 23; and history repeats itself again, it's going to happen to the church the body of Christ in the tribulation, if the church believes it or not. You ain't going to fly away, or be raptured up unless you die before the tribulation. The church of Christ Jesus will prevail and come out victoriously and give her life for the Master and Saviour Jesus Christ our Lord. Rev 6:9-11; Rev 13:7; Rev 12:11; and Rev 15:2; Rev 20:4,6
@@ClintonBrownell even by that logic the saints who pretribbers insist are not the church, are the ones who came to life and reigned with Christ in the first resurrection.
Post-tribbers logic: rapture at the second coming . what’s the point of “that” logic? I don’t think they understand what the tribulation is. The tribulation will be the most catastrophic events ever to happen in the history of earth. Do you really think we will be going about business as usual: eating, drinking, marrying, at the end of the tribulation? Heck no! That’s just laughable.
This is why many people object to there even being a Rapture. because a Trumpet (and all the other markers) are not in secret. The only way this could be reconciled is if only believers hear these distinctions... while unbelievers (which arguably characterizes most modern Christians) are not in tune to this "octave".
No rapture till the end, just the beginning of sorrows, Brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus, we all need to be overcomer's, we all need to run the race that is set before us that no man takes away our crown 👑, thing are going to intense more in the day to come. We need to keep our eyes on Christ Jesus, not in Egypt type of the world 🌎. God is bringing tribulation, His behind the beast system and is bringing in the mark of the beast to do a separation between His people, and the children of the devil. God is all Sovereign He wrote the book 📖. Satan is already defeated at the cross. All we need is to carry our cross and die to self and the World 🌎, We the body of Christ Jesus must be His witnesses to a dying generation, be the Light and the Salt of the earth, remember this that Christ Jesus is coming in His people Isaiah 60:1,2, before He comes for His people. You see Jesus never taught a pre rapture nor a pre trib rapture neither did the apostle's teach a pre rapture nor a pre trib rapture, the apostle said through many tribulations we shall enter the kingdom of heaven. They all a part of the Bride of Christ, they all suffered persecution from the Great Harlot and the daughter's and were killed by the Roman empire beast system of that day, and History is going to repeat itself again, for the Word of God says there is nothing new under the sun. So get Full of the Holy Ghost fill your lamp ( spiritual man )with oil 🪔 and your vessel ( that's your sou ) l with Holy Ghost oil 🪔, the church of Jesus Christ is going to shine one more time to this lost generation. The latter rain of the Holy Ghost is coming in His people, many are going to come into the kingdom of God in the tribulation, people that you thought didn't have hope are going to come to repentance through the Power of the Holy Ghost. But it comes with a price follow the Narrow road that lead's to life, Jesus said we must endure till the end. To the 7 churches. To be overcomer's just as He overcame. The Apostle Peter said that this false teachers have misinterpret Paul's epistles as they do others scripture's bringing themselves into their own destruction. The Bible says that he that teaches lies is part of the tail of the dragon Rev 12. So pre rapture, and pre trib rapture is a lie, and we are responsible for the blood of this people if we don't preach Truth, we must have the Love of the Truth. We must eat the whole Lamb 🐑 of God, it's head that's the mind of Christ, it's inward parts that's the whole Word, not pick and picking scripture that pleases the flesh. But eat everything that Christ Jesus taught. We must eat it's Legs, that's to walk as Jesus walked, partake of His suffering walking the Narrow road. And finish the course just as the apostle Paul said that there is a crown 👑 of righteousness waiting for him in that day, and which is that day it's at The Last Trump. The 1st resurrection and we which are alive shall be caught up to meet the Lord in the air, therefore comfort one another in Love. We are more than conquers through Christ Jesus our Lord. God bless.
The rapture can really be seen as a call to Jesus rather than what people think as the 2nd coming. Consider that there are precendents in the Bible for God protecting His own from divine judgment: The Great Flood, Sodom & Gomorrah being the greatest examples of God removing and preserving His people before judgment was enacted. In both cases, judgement was almost immediately after. Here in the age of grace, we (the church) being indwelled with Gods own Spirit must be reunited with Him and left out of range of judgement. Our presense here, building the Kingdom on earth, will suddenly come to an end at the rapture that is immediately followed by the great tribulation.
Respectfully I do not see any scripture that refers to a secret pre tribulational rapture. All I see is a final resurrection at the second coming of Christ and a final judgement. The secret rapture theory did not come into church history until the late 1800’s by John Nelson Darby of The Plymouth brethren.🙏❤️.
The 1st Resurrection & 2nd Death are both found in Rev 20. RAPTURE is NOT in any English Bible. It means 1st Resurrection to SOME and 2nd Death to others. The "masons" use RAPTURE to confuse discernment of those who read English Bibles. (PROPHET)
Thank you. This is the way I've always understood the two events, but, since I'm not the expert that you folks are, it's good to have it neatly summarized and explained. Unfortunately, this is subject will remain a divisive point for many folks. Fortunately, it is not a salvific issue.
No rapture till the end, just the beginning of sorrows, Brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus, we all need to be overcomer's, we all need to run the race that is set before us that no man takes away our crown 👑, thing are going to intense more in the day to come. We need to keep our eyes on Christ Jesus, not in Egypt type of the world 🌎. God is bringing tribulation, His behind the beast system and is bringing in the mark of the beast to do a separation between His people, and the children of the devil. God is all Sovereign He wrote the book 📖. Satan is already defeated at the cross. All we need is to carry our cross and die to self and the World 🌎, We the body of Christ Jesus must be His witnesses to a dying generation, be the Light and the Salt of the earth, remember this that Christ Jesus is coming in His people Isaiah 60:1,2, before He comes for His people. You see Jesus never taught a pre rapture nor a pre trib rapture neither did the apostle's teach a pre rapture nor a pre trib rapture, the apostle said through many tribulations we shall enter the kingdom of heaven. They all a part of the Bride of Christ, they all suffered persecution from the Great Harlot and the daughter's and were killed by the Roman empire beast system of that day, and History is going to repeat itself again, for the Word of God says there is nothing new under the sun. So get Full of the Holy Ghost fill your lamp ( spiritual man )with oil 🪔 and your vessel ( that's your sou ) l with Holy Ghost oil 🪔, the church of Jesus Christ is going to shine one more time to this lost generation. The latter rain of the Holy Ghost is coming in His people, many are going to come into the kingdom of God in the tribulation, people that you thought didn't have hope are going to come to repentance through the Power of the Holy Ghost. But it comes with a price follow the Narrow road that lead's to life, Jesus said we must endure till the end. To the 7 churches. To be overcomer's just as He overcame. The Apostle Peter said that this false teachers have misinterpret Paul's epistles as they do others scripture's bringing themselves into their own destruction. The Bible says that he that teaches lies is part of the tail of the dragon Rev 12. So pre rapture, and pre trib rapture is a lie, and we are responsible for the blood of this people if we don't preach Truth, we must have the Love of the Truth. We must eat the whole Lamb 🐑 of God, it's head that's the mind of Christ, it's inward parts that's the whole Word, not pick and picking scripture that pleases the flesh. But eat everything that Christ Jesus taught. We must eat it's Legs, that's to walk as Jesus walked, partake of His suffering walking the Narrow road. And finish the course just as the apostle Paul said that there is a crown 👑 of righteousness waiting for him in that day, and which is that day it's at The Last Trump. The 1st resurrection and we which are alive shall be caught up to meet the Lord in the air, therefore comfort one another in Love. We are more than conquers through Christ Jesus our Lord. God bless.
This is a simple question to answer! The rapture is not biblical, it will never happen! The second coming of Jesus is biblical! You can read about this event in Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21, and II Thessalonians 2.
I respectfully disagree with Got Questions Ministries regarding this topic. First, the video presentation leaves out words in passages shared. 2nd, they separate the rapture from the 2nd coming of Jesus in a factual way, which is not. The rapture in my opinion, based on the Bible does not occur before the tribulation, nor is it a secret event, that can happen "at any moment," because not all the signs have happened yet. Also, for a certainty, we will still be here tomorrow, and the next day, and next month, and into 2025 as well. If my understanding needs some redirecting, so to speak, then can anyone show me WHERE in the Bible does it say or infer that the rapture is during a Pre-trib moment? I can share many simple and clear scriptures that say the rapture is post-trib/pre wrath, which is during the 2nd coming of Jesus. Btw, I read from the KJV. God bless you all.
YOU MUST STUDY THE BOOK OF DANIEL IN REFERENCE TO REVELATION, AND JEREMIAH30 AND MORE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TRIBULATION PERIOD OF 7YRS ACTUALLY IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with every single point of this video and have for the most part of my life since I was born again at the age of 20 y/o in 1977. However, it would have been better if some references had been provided to back up the points. I think there are very clear references in the Bible that show the "coming in the air WITH the saints" as opposed to the calling out of the living believers at the rapture before the tribulation begins. At the Second Coming, it's clear that Jesus comes down to the earth and sets His feet upon the Mount of Olives, At the rapture Jesus does not come down to the earth but calls out His bride and takes the saved, living, and dead, with Him to heaven to return 7 years later. Overall very good video, but references to back it up would make it A+++.
The very thing on my Heart he just reached on. Thank you, and when we return with Christ what kind of Bodies will we have? Obviously when we are Raptured we will leave the Flesh
Those who oppose the PreTrib Rapture need to ask themselves: 1.) How many aspects to the first coming of Jesus was there? 2.) Does Jesus change? The answer to these questions are simple... 1.) Two 2.) No It is easy to see that since there were two aspects to Jesus first coming; and that Jesus doesn't change, then there is therefore two aspects to Jesus second coming. First coming: 1.) Preincarnate appearances 2.) Incarnate coming Second coming: 1.) Appearance in the air to gather the righteous 2.) Coming to earth to gather the wicked first ____________ Rapture = The righteous being received by Jesus Himself (not angels) in the air, to be with Him at the Father's House beholding His Glory. (John 14:1-4; 17:24; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; 1 Corinthians 15:51-52; Luke 21:36) - Pre-trib Rapture Second Coming = Angels gathering the wicked first, then the righteous being gathered by angels back to Jesus in Jerusalem, Israel. (Matthew 13:28-30, 39-43, 49-50; 24:31, 37-42; 25:31-32; Mark 13:26-27; Luke 17:26-30, 34-36) - Post-trib Harvest Let's keep these events in their proper order. Maranatha!! ✨️👑✨️
VVarpedVVariors Thank you for the breakdown in scriptures between the rapture and the second coming. I respectfully disagree with your separation. I have questions: [ 1 Thess 4:13-17 ], spec vs 16, it says the Dead in Christ shall rise FIRST (an order of things, like in 1 Cor 15:20-23) Reading further in 1 Thess 4: Vs 17 - THEN (after) we which are alive and REMAIN (or LEFT at the time - depending on which version you are reading from) will be caught up, right! So, WHEN will the Dead rise? In the Book of John, Jesus says he will raise us up at the Last Day, which is also known as the resurrection. That is pretty clear! There are other, clear scriptures that support this. So, how can there be a rapture that is pre-anything? The word "Remain," or "left" - what does that mean to you? What does the Last Day mean to you, and what scripture(s) can you share about what that Last Day means to you? Again, thank you, and God bless you with understanding.
@michaelbest7872 Thank you for your cordiallity. The main issue with "the dead in Christ" is not "dead", but is "in Christ". When does a person become "in Christ" ? That is the question. Someone becomes "in Christ" only when they have the indwelling Holy Spirit. We know the Holy Spirit was not sent for this ministry until Acts 2. No Old Testament saint was "in Christ". They were dead, but not "in Christ". You cannot be "in Christ" before Christ came, died, resurrected, ascended, and the Holy Spirit's indwelling as a seal until the day of redemption. So "the dead in Christ" only refers to the dead Church age saints from Pentecost until the Rapture. As for the Last Day... each category of persons has their own Last Day... The dead in Christ and the alive who remain (those alive "in Christ") at the time of the Resurrection/Pretribulational Rapture. The two witnesses in the middle of the 70th Week of Daniel. The Old Testament saints and Tribulation martyrs after the Second Coming and prior to the Millennium. The resurrection of the unjust at the White Throne Judgment just prior to the New Heavens and New Earth. To conclude, I'm pretty sure we can agree that those "in Christ" only refers to those who have the indwelling Holy Spirit. We can agree that only the Church age saints have this indwelling Holy Spirit. We should be able to agree that the two witnesses are resurrected at a point in time other than the dead in Christ. And we agree that the unjust dead are resurrected at a point in time different from any of the righteous. So for someone to say that there is only one Last Day for all persons, is just not plausible. Because even those who would say this, would (at a minimum) have to say that there is another Last Day (for the unjust) - (John 12:48; Revelation 20:11-15; Acts 24:15). Then they would have two Last Days. But it seems more reasonable just to say that each category of persons has their own Last Day. Thank you again. And may Jesus richly bless you and shine His Glorious Face upon you and give you peace.
It will be an event for all the world to see. See Rev11 an example of the resurrection followed by the rapture. They will be running and hiding from Him who sits on the throne. Rev 22 .. when I come My reward is with Me, to give to EVERY man according to his deeds. Make sure your fruit is the fruit of the Holy Spirit. Holiness.
@@NickGKiefer funny thing is when Christ talked about the day or the hour , the whole discussion was about the end of the world and his coming therefore the rapture and second coming are one and the same
Even the best of believers will be here for the great Tribulation and the church is mentioned after Revelation 6. You’ve read from the Scofield reference Bible and have latched on to Hollywood movie teachings.
There is no way the church will endure the Tribulation. We are in dwelt by the Holy Spirit which God the Father gave to us as a deposit and proof of His return for us. We have to be removed first. He would NEVER pour out his wrath on himself.
Where is the Church mentioned after revelation 6? I don't know why they say Rapture is a secret (?) in what sense they mean that,,, because everyone will know…! It will be chaos.
The rapture falls under orthodoxy. There's enough biblical evidence for believers to hold to the doctrine. If it weren't so, it would be disregarded. To claim that rapture believing Christians are following "Hollywood movie teachings" sounds funny, however, it's weak argumentation. I hope you have better arguments than that?
I held this for 40 years. 7 years ago, I was convicted and called to do my own study of scripture alone. I struggled against this for a couple years. Finally ... I accepted. You, reader, will have to be more agile than I was. Yes, these are different events and separated by 7 years .... but it isn't the 7 years I was taught and did teach myself. Dan 9:27 is 7 years ... but the tribulation is 42 months, the last 1/2 of that. 2 Thess 2 tells us the rapture cannot be before the man of lawlessness is revealed. That doesn't happen until he stops the regular sacrifice (which was resumed ~ 3.5 years prior) The Church will be present as it is during the tribulation (sorta ... The Spirit will be poured out as never before during that 42 months of unrestrained evil) ... The "Rapture" is immediately before the wrath of The Lamb which starts with ending Armageddon.. immediately AFTER the gathering of the nephilim. Luke 17's account of "one taken/one left" ... where'd they go? The Master's answer ISN'T the 1 Thess 4:16-17 "rapture." You could be in the presence of one of these ... and BAM, he/she is gone right in front of you. I think if you realize what happened, you'll have just enough time to start grinning. The concurrent 7 years (Heaven/Earth) is AFTER Armageddon ... 7 year Wedding Feast of the Lamb (Rev 19) and the cleanup of Megiddo (Ez 39:9) by the "woman" (Israel's 144k) who was taken away from the dragon by the two wings of a great eagle to a prepared place for 42 months (Rev 12) Fellow heir with Christ, unless you are called home before Armageddon, you'll get to reject the mark of the beast. The Hebrews hadn't left Egypt during the plagues. They were protected in Goshen. If you have Matt 25 "extra oil," you'll too be protected while we wait for the Bridegroom's arrival ... after sunset. The foolish ones didn't consider it'd be after sunset that's why they had NO oil, not only "not extra" they had none. So, now's the time to prepare ... to "get extra oil." When the sun sets is not the time to prepare your lamp. We are at the very end of Hosea 6's second day ... to be risen on the 3rd (after sunset)
Yes.....pre-wrath! Believers here during first part then the rapture/resurrection probably at Rev 6:12. Afterall, the raising of that many bodies (first resurrection) would probably result in a huge earthquake?! After that....who can stand?? The great trib for 3.5 years begins. Keep reading... Then, in Chp 7 the sealing (those Jewish believers will help the remnant survive the 3.5 great trib years) and then you read of all of the saved from every tribe and nation before the throne after the rapture/resurrection! AMEN!!!!
@@sewingstoryprojects6178 well, that's not as defined as "not pre-trib." But I think the "rapture" immediately precedes The Wrath of The Lamb ... The understanding I've been recently given doesn't have Jesus "gather" His elect and then 3.5 years later end Armageddon. The Master said "...endure to The End." Matt 24. Is that only the "end of mankind's dominion?" which would be "mid trib" ... but not "in the middle" ... immediately after the cessation of the regular sacrifice? Then what could possibly be the two wings of a great eagle which helps "the woman" in Rev 12 to the prepared place? Is that place being prepared now? Yes, at least one of 'em. Assagun Road north of Egbe Nigeria .... "the Jerusalem of Nigeria." Is the "two wings" something supernatural? or possibly Boeing 737s (hopefully not an airbus! :) ) effecting the evacuation out of Bosrah/present day Petra (Micah 2) ... needing believing pilots to fly 'em?
what does it mean when the dead in christ will rise first? doesnt this conflict with "to be absent in the body is to be present the lord? it doesnt make sense to be a believer, die, then be ressurected back to earth in the air to be jesus again.
Your physical body is what is resurrected and then glorified. Your soul/spirit which was already with the Lord, meet and enter into your glorified body which you will have for all eternity. This body, being glorified, cannot get sick, suffer trauma, or suffer physical pain. When we die, our body goes into the ground, but our soul/spirit (what makes us - us ), goes immediately into the presence of Christ Jesus. The mating if you will, and/or the joining of our soul&spirit will occur at the rapture for those who have already died the earthly death (the body). Those believers who are born again in Christ and are physically alive at that time, will simply have their bodies immediately glorified and taken to heaven. I hope this helps and I didn’t cause any confusion with more working. God bless you.
2THESS 2:1. Now we beseech you, brethren , by the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ ( before Jesus Christ comes in the clouds of glory, His coming in His saints it's called the epiphanie a corporate body of the man - child ministry, the 2 witnesses to minister to the church in the tribulation Rev 12:5,6; 2Thess 1:10, Hos 6:1-3; psalm 149:5-9; Isa 60:1,2; Acts 2:16-21; Rev 10:9-11; to preach the everlasting gospel to all creation ), and by our gathering together unto Him ( we gather unto Jesus Christ not religion nor denominations or man ) 2. That ye be not soon shaken in mind ( that's your soul area ), or be troubled, neither by spirit (wrong revelation, doctrines of demons , religious spirits , anti-christ spirit 1Jn 4:1-6; 2Jn verse 7; 2Pet 2:1-3; 1Tim 4:1 ), nor by word ( what's being preached, or taught, Lk 8:15. Jesus told His disciples to be careful with the leaven of the pharisees those are the preacher's of today, and to be careful with the leaven of herod that's your government ), nor by letter ( books, magazine's ,tracks ), as from us, as that the day of the Lord is at hand. 3. Let no man ( preacher, pastor, teacher, false prophet ) deceive ( beguile, trick you, tickle your ear ) by any means: for that day shall not come ( the coming of the Lord ), Except there come a falling away first ( Apostasy defecting from the truth, a great rebellion. 1Tim4:1; 2Tim3:1-5; 2Pet 2:3; Jude 18; Jn 6:66=666) , and the man of sin ( inside of each of us is the man of sin it's called the old man ) be revealed the son of perdition ( Judas iscariot was called the son of perdition by Jesus in Jn 17:12; Jn 13:26,27 SOP means son of perdition or destruction ). 4.Who opposeth and exalteth himself ( we must not exalt Self, the old man, the carnal man, the earthly man, the devilish man, the beastly nature of man, psalms 73:22 King David said , So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee. We must deny Self, Matt 10:38,39; and die to Self the old man has to be crucified, the book of Roman's is the 6th book in the NT, chapter 6, and verse 6=666, the old man has to be crucified, so the born again, spiritual man, born from above. Christ in you the hope of glory rules your temple) above all that is called God, or is worshipped ( man likes to be worshipped, Self likes to be worshipped, false prophets, pastors, teachers, false apostles, Christian artists, even people in the secular world etc. Just like Lucifer Isa 14:13,14; Ezek 28:1-9; 2Tim 3:1-5; 2Cor 11-1-15 ); so he as God sitteth( look where he sitteth )in the temple of God ( we are the temple of God, God does not dwell in temples made with human hands, our spiritual man is the Holy of holies, the soul is the Holy place, the body is the outer court, Acts 17:24,25; 1Cor 3:16,17; ), shewing himself ( there's that word Self ) that he is God.5. Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things ( the apostle Paul always warned the church of Christ Jesus ) ? 6. And now ye know what withholdeth ( restraineth means to hold back ) that he ( the son of perdition ) might be revealed in his time ( let's go back to verse 3 and will see when the son of perdition will be revealed at the falling away first ).7. For the mystery of iniquity ( lawlessness ) doth already work ( it was already working in Paul's day ): only he ( the Holy Ghost ) who now letteth will let, until he ( the son of perdition ) be taken out of the way, or come out of the midst ( it's a corporate body of son of perdition in the temple of Christ spiritualy speaking, just as Judas iscariot was, the disciples didn't have a clue it was Judas iscariot until he betrayed Jesus Christ with a kiss, when he dip the Sop into the dish satan entered him, and history is going to repeat itself again, the sons of perdition are going to betray the brothers to death. Matt 24:9,10 ) 8. And then shall that Wicked be revealed ( in the NT, they are corporate bodies, Jesus has His body and that's the true church in means called out one's out of religious babylonian churches . Satan also has a body and it's all the children of disobedience among the people of God, the tares, and the goat's, they have a anti christ spirit ). Whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming.9. Even him ( it's a corporate body of false prophets, Jesus said many false prophets not prophet but many would come in His name. Many serve a different Jesus and a different gospel) whose coming is after the working of Satan ( that's his body the sons of perdition 2Cor 11:4,13-15; Gal 1:6-9 )with all power and signs (all kinds of deceptions, and counterfeit,) and lying wonders.( Jesus saidm if it were possible the elect could be deceived )10. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness( 1Jn 2:15-29; James 4:4 )in them ( the apostate people of God )that perish; because they received not the love of the Truth, ( the real true Gospel , they were spiritually blind to truth Isa 66:4), that they might be saved.11. And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion, ( listen now ) that they should believe a lie ( such as a pre- rapture , pre trib rapture, once saved always saved ) : That they all might damned who believe not the Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." My brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus our Lord said He would send the comforter the Holy Ghost and He would be with us and in us, and lead us into all truth. If you have the love of the truth you will not be deceived by the false prophets, and many doctrines of religion and denominations out there. CHRIST IS NOT DIVIDED INTO RELIGION OR DENOMINATIONS. Those are babylonian churches. The Mother Harlot has many daughters, and she and her daughters persecuted Jesus and the apostles and handed them over to be Roman beast of that time. Rev 17:56; Rev 18:24, Matt 23; and history repeats itself again, it's going to happen to the church the body of Christ in the tribulation, if the church believes it or not. You ain't going to fly away, or be raptured up unless you die before the tribulation. The church of Christ Jesus will prevail and come out victoriously and give her life for the Master and Saviour Jesus Christ our Lord. Rev 6:9-11; Rev 13:7; Rev 12:11; and Rev 15:2; Rev 20:4,6
Can you find any explicit biblical justification for the following distinctions associated with Pre-Tribulationism? • Two Second Comings (or stages) (see Matthew 24:27,37; 1 Thessalonians 4:15). • Two first resurrections (see John 6:40; Revelation 20:4-5). • Two judgment seats of Christ (see 2 Corinthians 5:10 vs. Matthew 25:31-46). • Two last trumpets (see 1 Corinthians 15:51 vs. Matthew 24:31; possibly Revelation 11:15). • Two gatherings of God’s people (see 1 Thessalonians 4:16 vs. Mark 13:27; Matthew 24:31-40). • Two rewardings of the righteous (see 2 Corinthians 5:10 vs. Matthew 24:46-47). • Two classes of believers (the Church, spared tribulation, and believers converted during the Tribulation who must endure it). • The Church will not go through the final Tribulation.
That's a man made teaching. All believers will be caught up with them who rise in the resurrection, Rev. 20 says the 1st one is after the final event (the matk) start studying scripture people
Exactly, it's the same event. People won't open.their bible and study for themselves. They'd rather listen to others and most likely get led down the wrong path.
@dougtodd24 I disagree. Rapturists are playing games and saying, "Well, since Jesus comes in the clouds, he doesn't actually touch his feet on earth, so that doesn't count as a 'coming'". When He comes, that's the 2nd Advent, period. Jesus is not coming just to make a u-turn in space. Christians will be caught up to meet Him on His way down, just like the ppl would come outside the city to meet the returning king on his way back to his city. We will be doing the u-turn, not Him.
Matthew 24:38-41 KJV [38] For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, [39] and knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. [40] Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. [41] Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Those "taken" during the flood, died. Those "taken" upon his return could also die. The elect stay behind?
Would that mean all non believers die at the rapture? If so would this be a pre tribulation or post tribulation rapture? If pre trib, does that means Christians will suffer all of the tribulation? And if only the elect is left on earth, will it be the children they have during the millennial reign of Christ that Satan gathers to attack Jerusalem, after he’s let back out the bottomless pit?
@blkbbw8295 A lot to unpack. If it's the same as what was recorded by historians like Josephus, there will be waves. We could be in the midst of tribulations right now. Everyone will experience tribulation, even the saints. Everything that happens after the millennial reign i can speculate based on available evidence. First, if the devil has been released and we are in satans short season, where deception runs rampant. Would he want to deceive us into believing we aren't and the millenial reign never happened?
@Lili-Benovent What one reaps, they shall sow, and God's judgment is always righteous. We cannot comprehend that level of perfection nor create it. When we choose to ignore, deny, blaspheme and misinterpret God, we do so out of ignorance.
@@Matty_-_Mo When I was a young teenager I stood listening outside my sisters bedroom where she was with her boyfriend, I heard a lot of moaning and giggling then after a little while I heard this - Jesus I am coming, yes yes yes, Oh Jesus Jesus I am coming OOOOhhhhh God it feels soooo good, AAhhhh Gasp Gasp Gasp Ohhh, Hold on and we can come together Ohhh Jesus Jesus Jesus ! ! ! Were they praying or just practising for the rapture ?
Scripture never speaks about a "secret rapture". There is no difference between the second coming and the "rapture". It's *one* event, Jesus will return and judge the earth and the church will be with him for all eternity.
But it does say "no one will know the day or the hour". If that's true then I find it hard to believe post-trip rapture because wouldn't the people alive at that time in the 7 year tribulation be able to know the day and hour? Because from the moment Antichrist appears the people at the time would be able to basically know and work out 7years exactly from that day and hour to when Christ's second coming is... 🤔
@@KaziahKerenRose it’s true that no one knows the day or hour. But it won’t be like where believers are suddenly swept away with no trace in an instant.
2THESS 2:1. Now we beseech you, brethren , by the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ ( before Jesus Christ comes in the clouds of glory, His coming in His saints it's called the epiphanie a corporate body of the man - child ministry, the 2 witnesses to minister to the church in the tribulation Rev 12:5,6; 2Thess 1:10, Hos 6:1-3; psalm 149:5-9; Isa 60:1,2; Acts 2:16-21; Rev 10:9-11; to preach the everlasting gospel to all creation ), and by our gathering together unto Him ( we gather unto Jesus Christ not religion nor denominations or man ) 2. That ye be not soon shaken in mind ( that's your soul area ), or be troubled, neither by spirit (wrong revelation, doctrines of demons , religious spirits , anti-christ spirit 1Jn 4:1-6; 2Jn verse 7; 2Pet 2:1-3; 1Tim 4:1 ), nor by word ( what's being preached, or taught, Lk 8:15. Jesus told His disciples to be careful with the leaven of the pharisees those are the preacher's of today, and to be careful with the leaven of herod that's your government ), nor by letter ( books, magazine's ,tracks ), as from us, as that the day of the Lord is at hand. 3. Let no man ( preacher, pastor, teacher, false prophet ) deceive ( beguile, trick you, tickle your ear ) by any means: for that day shall not come ( the coming of the Lord ), Except there come a falling away first ( Apostasy defecting from the truth, a great rebellion. 1Tim4:1; 2Tim3:1-5; 2Pet 2:3; Jude 18; Jn 6:66=666) , and the man of sin ( inside of each of us is the man of sin it's called the old man ) be revealed the son of perdition ( Judas iscariot was called the son of perdition by Jesus in Jn 17:12; Jn 13:26,27 SOP means son of perdition or destruction ). 4.Who opposeth and exalteth himself ( we must not exalt Self, the old man, the carnal man, the earthly man, the devilish man, the beastly nature of man, psalms 73:22 King David said , So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee. We must deny Self, Matt 10:38,39; and die to Self the old man has to be crucified, the book of Roman's is the 6th book in the NT, chapter 6, and verse 6=666, the old man has to be crucified, so the born again, spiritual man, born from above. Christ in you the hope of glory rules your temple) above all that is called God, or is worshipped ( man likes to be worshipped, Self likes to be worshipped, false prophets, pastors, teachers, false apostles, Christian artists, even people in the secular world etc. Just like Lucifer Isa 14:13,14; Ezek 28:1-9; 2Tim 3:1-5; 2Cor 11-1-15 ); so he as God sitteth( look where he sitteth )in the temple of God ( we are the temple of God, God does not dwell in temples made with human hands, our spiritual man is the Holy of holies, the soul is the Holy place, the body is the outer court, Acts 17:24,25; 1Cor 3:16,17; ), shewing himself ( there's that word Self ) that he is God.5. Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things ( the apostle Paul always warned the church of Christ Jesus ) ? 6. And now ye know what withholdeth ( restraineth means to hold back ) that he ( the son of perdition ) might be revealed in his time ( let's go back to verse 3 and will see when the son of perdition will be revealed at the falling away first ).7. For the mystery of iniquity ( lawlessness ) doth already work ( it was already working in Paul's day ): only he ( the Holy Ghost ) who now letteth will let, until he ( the son of perdition ) be taken out of the way, or come out of the midst ( it's a corporate body of son of perdition in the temple of Christ spiritualy speaking, just as Judas iscariot was, the disciples didn't have a clue it was Judas iscariot until he betrayed Jesus Christ with a kiss, when he dip the Sop into the dish satan entered him, and history is going to repeat itself again, the sons of perdition are going to betray the brothers to death. Matt 24:9,10 ) 8. And then shall that Wicked be revealed ( in the NT, they are corporate bodies, Jesus has His body and that's the true church in means called out one's out of religious babylonian churches . Satan also has a body and it's all the children of disobedience among the people of God, the tares, and the goat's, they have a anti christ spirit ). Whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming.9. Even him ( it's a corporate body of false prophets, Jesus said many false prophets not prophet but many would come in His name. Many serve a different Jesus and a different gospel) whose coming is after the working of Satan ( that's his body the sons of perdition 2Cor 11:4,13-15; Gal 1:6-9 )with all power and signs (all kinds of deceptions, and counterfeit,) and lying wonders.( Jesus saidm if it were possible the elect could be deceived )10. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness( 1Jn 2:15-29; James 4:4 )in them ( the apostate people of God )that perish; because they received not the love of the Truth, ( the real true Gospel , they were spiritually blind to truth Isa 66:4), that they might be saved.11. And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion, ( listen now ) that they should believe a lie ( such as a pre- rapture , pre trib rapture, once saved always saved ) : That they all might damned who believe not the Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." My brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus our Lord said He would send the comforter the Holy Ghost and He would be with us and in us, and lead us into all truth. If you have the love of the truth you will not be deceived by the false prophets, and many doctrines of religion and denominations out there. CHRIST IS NOT DIVIDED INTO RELIGION OR DENOMINATIONS. Those are babylonian churches. The Mother Harlot has many daughters, and she and her daughters persecuted Jesus and the apostles and handed them over to be Roman beast of that time. Rev 17:56; Rev 18:24, Matt 23; and history repeats itself again, it's going to happen to the church the body of Christ in the tribulation, if the church believes it or not. You ain't going to fly away, or be raptured up unless you die before the tribulation. The church of Christ Jesus will prevail and come out victoriously and give her life for the Master and Saviour Jesus Christ our Lord. Rev 6:9-11; Rev 13:7; Rev 12:11; and Rev 15:2; Rev 20:4,6
@@jesusbeloved39532THESS 2:1. Now we beseech you, brethren , by the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ ( before Jesus Christ comes in the clouds of glory, His coming in His saints it's called the epiphanie a corporate body of the man - child ministry, the 2 witnesses to minister to the church in the tribulation Rev 12:5,6; 2Thess 1:10, Hos 6:1-3; psalm 149:5-9; Isa 60:1,2; Acts 2:16-21; Rev 10:9-11; to preach the everlasting gospel to all creation ), and by our gathering together unto Him ( we gather unto Jesus Christ not religion nor denominations or man ) 2. That ye be not soon shaken in mind ( that's your soul area ), or be troubled, neither by spirit (wrong revelation, doctrines of demons , religious spirits , anti-christ spirit 1Jn 4:1-6; 2Jn verse 7; 2Pet 2:1-3; 1Tim 4:1 ), nor by word ( what's being preached, or taught, Lk 8:15. Jesus told His disciples to be careful with the leaven of the pharisees those are the preacher's of today, and to be careful with the leaven of herod that's your government ), nor by letter ( books, magazine's ,tracks ), as from us, as that the day of the Lord is at hand. 3. Let no man ( preacher, pastor, teacher, false prophet ) deceive ( beguile, trick you, tickle your ear ) by any means: for that day shall not come ( the coming of the Lord ), Except there come a falling away first ( Apostasy defecting from the truth, a great rebellion. 1Tim4:1; 2Tim3:1-5; 2Pet 2:3; Jude 18; Jn 6:66=666) , and the man of sin ( inside of each of us is the man of sin it's called the old man ) be revealed the son of perdition ( Judas iscariot was called the son of perdition by Jesus in Jn 17:12; Jn 13:26,27 SOP means son of perdition or destruction ). 4.Who opposeth and exalteth himself ( we must not exalt Self, the old man, the carnal man, the earthly man, the devilish man, the beastly nature of man, psalms 73:22 King David said , So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee. We must deny Self, Matt 10:38,39; and die to Self the old man has to be crucified, the book of Roman's is the 6th book in the NT, chapter 6, and verse 6=666, the old man has to be crucified, so the born again, spiritual man, born from above. Christ in you the hope of glory rules your temple) above all that is called God, or is worshipped ( man likes to be worshipped, Self likes to be worshipped, false prophets, pastors, teachers, false apostles, Christian artists, even people in the secular world etc. Just like Lucifer Isa 14:13,14; Ezek 28:1-9; 2Tim 3:1-5; 2Cor 11-1-15 ); so he as God sitteth( look where he sitteth )in the temple of God ( we are the temple of God, God does not dwell in temples made with human hands, our spiritual man is the Holy of holies, the soul is the Holy place, the body is the outer court, Acts 17:24,25; 1Cor 3:16,17; ), shewing himself ( there's that word Self ) that he is God.5. Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things ( the apostle Paul always warned the church of Christ Jesus ) ? 6. And now ye know what withholdeth ( restraineth means to hold back ) that he ( the son of perdition ) might be revealed in his time ( let's go back to verse 3 and will see when the son of perdition will be revealed at the falling away first ).7. For the mystery of iniquity ( lawlessness ) doth already work ( it was already working in Paul's day ): only he ( the Holy Ghost ) who now letteth will let, until he ( the son of perdition ) be taken out of the way, or come out of the midst ( it's a corporate body of son of perdition in the temple of Christ spiritualy speaking, just as Judas iscariot was, the disciples didn't have a clue it was Judas iscariot until he betrayed Jesus Christ with a kiss, when he dip the Sop into the dish satan entered him, and history is going to repeat itself again, the sons of perdition are going to betray the brothers to death. Matt 24:9,10 ) 8. And then shall that Wicked be revealed ( in the NT, they are corporate bodies, Jesus has His body and that's the true church in means called out one's out of religious babylonian churches . Satan also has a body and it's all the children of disobedience among the people of God, the tares, and the goat's, they have a anti christ spirit ). Whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming.9. Even him ( it's a corporate body of false prophets, Jesus said many false prophets not prophet but many would come in His name. Many serve a different Jesus and a different gospel) whose coming is after the working of Satan ( that's his body the sons of perdition 2Cor 11:4,13-15; Gal 1:6-9 )with all power and signs (all kinds of deceptions, and counterfeit,) and lying wonders.( Jesus saidm if it were possible the elect could be deceived )10. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness( 1Jn 2:15-29; James 4:4 )in them ( the apostate people of God )that perish; because they received not the love of the Truth, ( the real true Gospel , they were spiritually blind to truth Isa 66:4), that they might be saved.11. And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion, ( listen now ) that they should believe a lie ( such as a pre- rapture , pre trib rapture, once saved always saved ) : That they all might damned who believe not the Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." My brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus our Lord said He would send the comforter the Holy Ghost and He would be with us and in us, and lead us into all truth. If you have the love of the truth you will not be deceived by the false prophets, and many doctrines of religion and denominations out there. CHRIST IS NOT DIVIDED INTO RELIGION OR DENOMINATIONS. Those are babylonian churches. The Mother Harlot has many daughters, and she and her daughters persecuted Jesus and the apostles and handed them over to be Roman beast of that time. Rev 17:56; Rev 18:24, Matt 23; and history repeats itself again, it's going to happen to the church the body of Christ in the tribulation, if the church believes it or not. You ain't going to fly away, or be raptured up unless you die before the tribulation. The church of Christ Jesus will prevail and come out victoriously and give her life for the Master and Saviour Jesus Christ our Lord. Rev 6:9-11; Rev 13:7; Rev 12:11; and Rev 15:2; Rev 20:4,6
I don't think it reads this way. Much deception coming to the earth through those who have not read carefully.. be not deceived a false message is among us.
@@ThomasDowdall-mh1es indeed, in acts 1 we are again assured Christ would return exactly as he left and we would see him, hearkening back to the Olivet discourse, immediately after the great tribulation
@ThomasDowdall-mh1es second thing is many shall come in my name. Funny how I just knew that from the abundance of my heart. Ive probably read it before hmm as to not be deceived.
The resurrection and the rapture happens at the second coming. 1. 1thess4: 13-17 Jesus comes in the clouds 2. Matt24: 29-31 Jesus comes in the clouds 3. Rev1:7 Jesus comes in the clouds!! All same event posttrib!!
2THESS 2:1. Now we beseech you, brethren , by the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ ( before Jesus Christ comes in the clouds of glory, His coming in His saints it's called the epiphanie a corporate body of the man - child ministry, the 2 witnesses to minister to the church in the tribulation Rev 12:5,6; 2Thess 1:10, Hos 6:1-3; psalm 149:5-9; Isa 60:1,2; Acts 2:16-21; Rev 10:9-11; to preach the everlasting gospel to all creation ), and by our gathering together unto Him ( we gather unto Jesus Christ not religion nor denominations or man ) 2. That ye be not soon shaken in mind ( that's your soul area ), or be troubled, neither by spirit (wrong revelation, doctrines of demons , religious spirits , anti-christ spirit 1Jn 4:1-6; 2Jn verse 7; 2Pet 2:1-3; 1Tim 4:1 ), nor by word ( what's being preached, or taught, Lk 8:15. Jesus told His disciples to be careful with the leaven of the pharisees those are the preacher's of today, and to be careful with the leaven of herod that's your government ), nor by letter ( books, magazine's ,tracks ), as from us, as that the day of the Lord is at hand. 3. Let no man ( preacher, pastor, teacher, false prophet ) deceive ( beguile, trick you, tickle your ear ) by any means: for that day shall not come ( the coming of the Lord ), Except there come a falling away first ( Apostasy defecting from the truth, a great rebellion. 1Tim4:1; 2Tim3:1-5; 2Pet 2:3; Jude 18; Jn 6:66=666) , and the man of sin ( inside of each of us is the man of sin it's called the old man ) be revealed the son of perdition ( Judas iscariot was called the son of perdition by Jesus in Jn 17:12; Jn 13:26,27 SOP means son of perdition or destruction ). 4.Who opposeth and exalteth himself ( we must not exalt Self, the old man, the carnal man, the earthly man, the devilish man, the beastly nature of man, psalms 73:22 King David said , So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee. We must deny Self, Matt 10:38,39; and die to Self the old man has to be crucified, the book of Roman's is the 6th book in the NT, chapter 6, and verse 6=666, the old man has to be crucified, so the born again, spiritual man, born from above. Christ in you the hope of glory rules your temple) above all that is called God, or is worshipped ( man likes to be worshipped, Self likes to be worshipped, false prophets, pastors, teachers, false apostles, Christian artists, even people in the secular world etc. Just like Lucifer Isa 14:13,14; Ezek 28:1-9; 2Tim 3:1-5; 2Cor 11-1-15 ); so he as God sitteth( look where he sitteth )in the temple of God ( we are the temple of God, God does not dwell in temples made with human hands, our spiritual man is the Holy of holies, the soul is the Holy place, the body is the outer court, Acts 17:24,25; 1Cor 3:16,17; ), shewing himself ( there's that word Self ) that he is God.5. Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things ( the apostle Paul always warned the church of Christ Jesus ) ? 6. And now ye know what withholdeth ( restraineth means to hold back ) that he ( the son of perdition ) might be revealed in his time ( let's go back to verse 3 and will see when the son of perdition will be revealed at the falling away first ).7. For the mystery of iniquity ( lawlessness ) doth already work ( it was already working in Paul's day ): only he ( the Holy Ghost ) who now letteth will let, until he ( the son of perdition ) be taken out of the way, or come out of the midst ( it's a corporate body of son of perdition in the temple of Christ spiritualy speaking, just as Judas iscariot was, the disciples didn't have a clue it was Judas iscariot until he betrayed Jesus Christ with a kiss, when he dip the Sop into the dish satan entered him, and history is going to repeat itself again, the sons of perdition are going to betray the brothers to death. Matt 24:9,10 ) 8. And then shall that Wicked be revealed ( in the NT, they are corporate bodies, Jesus has His body and that's the true church in means called out one's out of religious babylonian churches . Satan also has a body and it's all the children of disobedience among the people of God, the tares, and the goat's, they have a anti christ spirit ). Whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming.9. Even him ( it's a corporate body of false prophets, Jesus said many false prophets not prophet but many would come in His name. Many serve a different Jesus and a different gospel) whose coming is after the working of Satan ( that's his body the sons of perdition 2Cor 11:4,13-15; Gal 1:6-9 )with all power and signs (all kinds of deceptions, and counterfeit,) and lying wonders.( Jesus saidm if it were possible the elect could be deceived )10. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness( 1Jn 2:15-29; James 4:4 )in them ( the apostate people of God )that perish; because they received not the love of the Truth, ( the real true Gospel , they were spiritually blind to truth Isa 66:4), that they might be saved.11. And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion, ( listen now ) that they should believe a lie ( such as a pre- rapture , pre trib rapture, once saved always saved ) : That they all might damned who believe not the Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." My brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus our Lord said He would send the comforter the Holy Ghost and He would be with us and in us, and lead us into all truth. If you have the love of the truth you will not be deceived by the false prophets, and many doctrines of religion and denominations out there. CHRIST IS NOT DIVIDED INTO RELIGION OR DENOMINATIONS. Those are babylonian churches. The Mother Harlot has many daughters, and she and her daughters persecuted Jesus and the apostles and handed them over to be Roman beast of that time. Rev 17:56; Rev 18:24, Matt 23; and history repeats itself again, it's going to happen to the church the body of Christ in the tribulation, if the church believes it or not. You ain't going to fly away, or be raptured up unless you die before the tribulation. The church of Christ Jesus will prevail and come out victoriously and give her life for the Master and Saviour Jesus Christ our Lord. Rev 6:9-11; Rev 13:7; Rev 12:11; and Rev 15:2; Rev 20:4,6
@@glenhowell6909 No rapture till the end, just the beginning of sorrows, Brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus, we all need to be overcomer's, we all need to run the race that is set before us that no man takes away our crown 👑, thing are going to intense more in the day to come. We need to keep our eyes on Christ Jesus, not in Egypt type of the world 🌎. God is bringing tribulation, His behind the beast system and is bringing in the mark of the beast to do a separation between His people, and the children of the devil. God is all Sovereign He wrote the book 📖. Satan is already defeated at the cross. All we need is to carry our cross and die to self and the World 🌎, We the body of Christ Jesus must be His witnesses to a dying generation, be the Light and the Salt of the earth, remember this that Christ Jesus is coming in His people Isaiah 60:1,2, before He comes for His people. You see Jesus never taught a pre rapture nor a pre trib rapture neither did the apostle's teach a pre rapture nor a pre trib rapture, the apostle said through many tribulations we shall enter the kingdom of heaven. They all a part of the Bride of Christ, they all suffered persecution from the Great Harlot and the daughter's and were killed by the Roman empire beast system of that day, and History is going to repeat itself again, for the Word of God says there is nothing new under the sun. So get Full of the Holy Ghost fill your lamp ( spiritual man )with oil 🪔 and your vessel ( that's your sou ) l with Holy Ghost oil 🪔, the church of Jesus Christ is going to shine one more time to this lost generation. The latter rain of the Holy Ghost is coming in His people, many are going to come into the kingdom of God in the tribulation, people that you thought didn't have hope are going to come to repentance through the Power of the Holy Ghost. But it comes with a price follow the Narrow road that lead's to life, Jesus said we must endure till the end. To the 7 churches. To be overcomer's just as He overcame. The Apostle Peter said that this false teachers have misinterpret Paul's epistles as they do others scripture's bringing themselves into their own destruction. The Bible says that he that teaches lies is part of the tail of the dragon Rev 12. So pre rapture, and pre trib rapture is a lie, and we are responsible for the blood of this people if we don't preach Truth, we must have the Love of the Truth. We must eat the whole Lamb 🐑 of God, it's head that's the mind of Christ, it's inward parts that's the whole Word, not pick and picking scripture that pleases the flesh. But eat everything that Christ Jesus taught. We must eat it's Legs, that's to walk as Jesus walked, partake of His suffering walking the Narrow road. And finish the course just as the apostle Paul said that there is a crown 👑 of righteousness waiting for him in that day, and which is that day it's at The Last Trump. The 1st resurrection and we which are alive shall be caught up to meet the Lord in the air, therefore comfort one another in Love. We are more than conquers through Christ Jesus our Lord. God bless.
This will hopefully be an eye opener for some. Jesus and the disciples did not believe in the Pre-Trib, Mid Trib or Post Trib rapture for the believers. Jesus and the disciples thought that we would all be raised on the last day. So, the Day of Judgement. John 6:39-40 says, "And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that of everything that He has given Me I will lose nothing, but will raise it up on the last day. For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.” So, Jesus said that the believers will be raised up on the last day. Not before. Then the same belief is mentioned again in John 11:21-27. It says, “Martha then said to Jesus, “Lord, if You had been here, my brother would not have died. Even now I know that whatever You ask of God, God will give You.” Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise from the dead.” Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.” Once again, the believers will be raised up on the last day and not before. So, we will go through the tribulation. You may be asking, “When Christ returns and conquers the antichrist, who are those saints that return with him? Who are the ones that are raised up first?” This is explained in Rev 20:4-6. It says that it is the martyrs and only the martyrs. So, not every believer but those who are killed for the testimony of Jesus. No one else. These are the "dead in Christ" or "those that are asleep," as mentioned in 1Thes 4:13-18. They are raised to life and then return with Him to reign for 1000 years. Then after this, Satan is set free for a period, and then, at the very end, Christ will raise up all those that remain into the clouds to be judged. This raising will be for every believer and non-believer to judgement day (1Thes 4:15, "we who are alive and remain" will be raised at the end). Every person who is alive and also every dead person. This is also mentioned in 1 Cor 15:51-52, "Behold, I am telling you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.” So, at the last trumpet, which is the last day, we will all be raised up. The last day is the day of judgement where God judges everyone (Rev 20:11-15) In Rev 11:15 it says that the last trumpet is when “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ; and He will reign forever and ever.” So, at the end of this age, at the last trumpet, everyone will be raised up into the clouds in the twinkling of an eye. That is all believers and non-believers. Both dead and alive, great and small. Only, the martyrs are raptured up before and return with Christ.
Here are the people who will see the rapture that are left on earth. Notice they saw what happened. But you have to put other verses with this one to get the whole picture. Rev 6 And the kings of the earth, the great men, [j]the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?” As you start adding verses the picture becomes clear. Rev 1 Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen Mat 24 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
The most important thing for the pre tribbers is to make sure they have on their pre trib glasses. , That way they can try to make every verse fit the pre trib rapture.
Daniel 12 (explained) Daniel 12:1 KJV And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. ---- written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the Earth Daniel 12:2 KJV And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. ---- separating the “wheat from the tares,” the wheat being the SAINTS. Daniel 12:3 KJV And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. ---- Stars are Angels Daniel 12:4 KJV But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. Daniel 12:5 KJV Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river. Daniel 12:6 KJV And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders? Daniel 12:7 KJV And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. ---- “it shall be for a time, times and a half” that is 3 1/2 years “and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people” Enoch 93:8 R.H. Charles 1917 And after that in the sixth week all who live in it shall be blinded, And the hearts of all of them shall godlessly forsake wisdom. ---- “forsake wisdom” the C19 is the “strong delusion” it does NOT exist. And they wear a “mask” (noisome grievous sore of Rev 16:2) and take vaccines. And in it a man shall ascend; And at its close the house of dominion shall be burnt with fire, And the whole race of the chosen root shall be dispersed. ---- “man shall ascend” is ANTICHRIST, King 6 & 8 ---- “house of dominion” is Washington DC or “Spiritual Babylon” ---- “And the whole race of the chosen root shall be dispersed” “chosen root” are Americans Daniel 12:8 KJV And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? Daniel 12:9 KJV And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. ---- “sealed till the time of the end” the “end” is NOW. The End Days Prophecies have all been revealed. The SIGN of JONAS and the ABOMINATION of DESOLATON have not been fulfilled yet. Daniel 12:10 KJV Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. Daniel 12:11 KJV And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. ----- 1290 days From the time C19 is taken away. This date is tricky and is why no one knows exact date. Daniel 12:12 KJV Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days - 1335 days ---- Apollyon and the False Prophet are taken, the destruction of Babylon, and 1 st Resurrection (SEAL 5 of Rev 6) Daniel 12:13 KJV But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days Malachi 4:5 KJV Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: ---- Elijah and Enoch are the “two witnesses” and are HERE NOW. (Prophet) (Watchman for this Last Generation)
2THESS 2:1. Now we beseech you, brethren , by the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ ( before Jesus Christ comes in the clouds of glory, His coming in His saints it's called the epiphanie a corporate body of the man - child ministry, the 2 witnesses to minister to the church in the tribulation Rev 12:5,6; 2Thess 1:10, Hos 6:1-3; psalm 149:5-9; Isa 60:1,2; Acts 2:16-21; Rev 10:9-11; to preach the everlasting gospel to all creation ), and by our gathering together unto Him ( we gather unto Jesus Christ not religion nor denominations or man ) 2. That ye be not soon shaken in mind ( that's your soul area ), or be troubled, neither by spirit (wrong revelation, doctrines of demons , religious spirits , anti-christ spirit 1Jn 4:1-6; 2Jn verse 7; 2Pet 2:1-3; 1Tim 4:1 ), nor by word ( what's being preached, or taught, Lk 8:15. Jesus told His disciples to be careful with the leaven of the pharisees those are the preacher's of today, and to be careful with the leaven of herod that's your government ), nor by letter ( books, magazine's ,tracks ), as from us, as that the day of the Lord is at hand. 3. Let no man ( preacher, pastor, teacher, false prophet ) deceive ( beguile, trick you, tickle your ear ) by any means: for that day shall not come ( the coming of the Lord ), Except there come a falling away first ( Apostasy defecting from the truth, a great rebellion. 1Tim4:1; 2Tim3:1-5; 2Pet 2:3; Jude 18; Jn 6:66=666) , and the man of sin ( inside of each of us is the man of sin it's called the old man ) be revealed the son of perdition ( Judas iscariot was called the son of perdition by Jesus in Jn 17:12; Jn 13:26,27 SOP means son of perdition or destruction ). 4.Who opposeth and exalteth himself ( we must not exalt Self, the old man, the carnal man, the earthly man, the devilish man, the beastly nature of man, psalms 73:22 King David said , So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee. We must deny Self, Matt 10:38,39; and die to Self the old man has to be crucified, the book of Roman's is the 6th book in the NT, chapter 6, and verse 6=666, the old man has to be crucified, so the born again, spiritual man, born from above. Christ in you the hope of glory rules your temple) above all that is called God, or is worshipped ( man likes to be worshipped, Self likes to be worshipped, false prophets, pastors, teachers, false apostles, Christian artists, even people in the secular world etc. Just like Lucifer Isa 14:13,14; Ezek 28:1-9; 2Tim 3:1-5; 2Cor 11-1-15 ); so he as God sitteth( look where he sitteth )in the temple of God ( we are the temple of God, God does not dwell in temples made with human hands, our spiritual man is the Holy of holies, the soul is the Holy place, the body is the outer court, Acts 17:24,25; 1Cor 3:16,17; ), shewing himself ( there's that word Self ) that he is God.5. Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things ( the apostle Paul always warned the church of Christ Jesus ) ? 6. And now ye know what withholdeth ( restraineth means to hold back ) that he ( the son of perdition ) might be revealed in his time ( let's go back to verse 3 and will see when the son of perdition will be revealed at the falling away first ).7. For the mystery of iniquity ( lawlessness ) doth already work ( it was already working in Paul's day ): only he ( the Holy Ghost ) who now letteth will let, until he ( the son of perdition ) be taken out of the way, or come out of the midst ( it's a corporate body of son of perdition in the temple of Christ spiritualy speaking, just as Judas iscariot was, the disciples didn't have a clue it was Judas iscariot until he betrayed Jesus Christ with a kiss, when he dip the Sop into the dish satan entered him, and history is going to repeat itself again, the sons of perdition are going to betray the brothers to death. Matt 24:9,10 ) 8. And then shall that Wicked be revealed ( in the NT, they are corporate bodies, Jesus has His body and that's the true church in means called out one's out of religious babylonian churches . Satan also has a body and it's all the children of disobedience among the people of God, the tares, and the goat's, they have a anti christ spirit ). Whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming.9. Even him ( it's a corporate body of false prophets, Jesus said many false prophets not prophet but many would come in His name. Many serve a different Jesus and a different gospel) whose coming is after the working of Satan ( that's his body the sons of perdition 2Cor 11:4,13-15; Gal 1:6-9 )with all power and signs (all kinds of deceptions, and counterfeit,) and lying wonders.( Jesus saidm if it were possible the elect could be deceived )10. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness( 1Jn 2:15-29; James 4:4 )in them ( the apostate people of God )that perish; because they received not the love of the Truth, ( the real true Gospel , they were spiritually blind to truth Isa 66:4), that they might be saved.11. And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion, ( listen now ) that they should believe a lie ( such as a pre- rapture , pre trib rapture, once saved always saved ) : That they all might damned who believe not the Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." My brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus our Lord said He would send the comforter the Holy Ghost and He would be with us and in us, and lead us into all truth. If you have the love of the truth you will not be deceived by the false prophets, and many doctrines of religion and denominations out there. CHRIST IS NOT DIVIDED INTO RELIGION OR DENOMINATIONS. Those are babylonian churches. The Mother Harlot has many daughters, and she and her daughters persecuted Jesus and the apostles and handed them over to be Roman beast of that time. Rev 17:56; Rev 18:24, Matt 23; and history repeats itself again, it's going to happen to the church the body of Christ in the tribulation, if the church believes it or not. You ain't going to fly away, or be raptured up unless you die before the tribulation. The church of Christ Jesus will prevail and come out victoriously and give her life for the Master and Saviour Jesus Christ our Lord. Rev 6:9-11; Rev 13:7; Rev 12:11; and Rev 15:2; Rev 20:4,6
God bless your love for our Lord and savour Jesus christ. In my opinion as Mathew 24 says after the tribulation of those days the angles will gather the ellect especially when history shows king Herald died 4bc. The 120th jubilee ends 2026-2027. The people in Judea had to head to the hills in 2023.The Greek word bow mean toxin or poison in English. God bless
Proof of A Pre trib Rapture. Pay Attention to the Cloud and Clouds Jesus appears IN and With. Act's chapter 1 verses 9 10 11 Cloud. In Red Luke chapter 21 verses 27 and 28 Jesus is coming IN A Cloud the Rapture. In Revelation chapter 1 verse 7 Jesus is coming With the Clouds when he comes back to the Mt of Olive the second coming KJV.
Nonsense, you don't understand Prophecy, sorry. We are nearing the midpoint in TRIB NOW. Also, the word RAPTURE does not appear in any English Bible. We have a 1st Resurrection & a 2nd Death both covered in Rev 20. (PROPHET)
@ClintonBrownell Well if you believe Luke chapter 21 verses 27 and 28 are the same as Revelation chapter 1 verse 7. That's what you believe. I see it differently.
@@Frank-st6gd Luke 21:27-28 KJV And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. ---- "for your redemption draweth NIGH"...NIGH is 3 1/2 years away until the 2nd Death. (PROPHET)
Post-tribbers logic: rapture at the second coming . what’s the point of “that” logic? I don’t think they understand what the tribulation is. The tribulation will be the most catastrophic events ever to happen in the history of earth. Do you really think we will be going about business as usual: eating, drinking, marrying, at the end of the tribulation? Heck no!
Yes I am being married to Jesus Christ the spirit of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ is being married to my body for the second coming of Jesus Christ the wedding feast of the lamb the rapture the 7 year tribulation it started September 17TH 2021.
RAPTURE is NOT in any English Bible. It's a "poor" word to use when quoting from English Bibles. The English Bible has the 1st Resurrection & 2nd Death both in Rev 20 RAPTURE is a "mason" agenda to cconfuse your discernment.. It means 1st Resurrection to SOME but 2nd Death to others,, HENCE CONFUSION. Why not use the proper paragraphing from the English Bible when reading from an English Bible? (PROPHET)
@@sugarjones8047 RAPTURE is a word used to represent the 1st Resurrection or 2nd Death depending on your discernment of Scripture. The is NO 3RD event. Now if both these events are covered in the English Bible already, why are we requiring a 3rd WORD which isn''t even in the Bible to describe the event? There is NO REASON. (PROPHET)
YOU'RE WRONG and it seems like your preconceived ideas might be the source of your conflicts, leading you to think that the rapture is not the same as the second coming. However, consider 1 Thessalonians 4:14, which says: 'For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.' Who are these that Jesus brings with Him? The truth is, the rapture and the second coming occur on the same day-on that day, God will bring with Him the spirits of those who have fallen asleep in Christ.
PINS for our TIMELINE More Scripture support. Daniel 7:8 KJV I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things. ---- “three of the first horns plucked up by the roots” KINGS 1,2,3 Rev 17:10 Daniel 7:20 KJV And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows. ---- “before whom three fell” KINGS 1,2,3 Rev 17:10 ----"whose look was more stout than his fellows" defines TRUMP Daniel 7:24 KJV And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. ---- “he shall subdue three kings” Bush (King 4), John McCain (King), John Podesta (King). Remember TRUMP (Antichrist) killed BUSH, McCAIN, and "subdued" PODESTA within minutes after taking office.. Revelation 13:3 KJV And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. --”one of his heads as it were wounded to death” King 1 (JFK) NOTE: Daniel 7,8,11,12 deal with End Times, not Daniel 9 which deals with TIME of the FLOOD. (Prophet) (Watchman for the Last Generation)
2THESS 2:1. Now we beseech you, brethren , by the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ ( before Jesus Christ comes in the clouds of glory, His coming in His saints it's called the epiphanie a corporate body of the man - child ministry, the 2 witnesses to minister to the church in the tribulation Rev 12:5,6; 2Thess 1:10, Hos 6:1-3; psalm 149:5-9; Isa 60:1,2; Acts 2:16-21; Rev 10:9-11; to preach the everlasting gospel to all creation ), and by our gathering together unto Him ( we gather unto Jesus Christ not religion nor denominations or man ) 2. That ye be not soon shaken in mind ( that's your soul area ), or be troubled, neither by spirit (wrong revelation, doctrines of demons , religious spirits , anti-christ spirit 1Jn 4:1-6; 2Jn verse 7; 2Pet 2:1-3; 1Tim 4:1 ), nor by word ( what's being preached, or taught, Lk 8:15. Jesus told His disciples to be careful with the leaven of the pharisees those are the preacher's of today, and to be careful with the leaven of herod that's your government ), nor by letter ( books, magazine's ,tracks ), as from us, as that the day of the Lord is at hand. 3. Let no man ( preacher, pastor, teacher, false prophet ) deceive ( beguile, trick you, tickle your ear ) by any means: for that day shall not come ( the coming of the Lord ), Except there come a falling away first ( Apostasy defecting from the truth, a great rebellion. 1Tim4:1; 2Tim3:1-5; 2Pet 2:3; Jude 18; Jn 6:66=666) , and the man of sin ( inside of each of us is the man of sin it's called the old man ) be revealed the son of perdition ( Judas iscariot was called the son of perdition by Jesus in Jn 17:12; Jn 13:26,27 SOP means son of perdition or destruction ). 4.Who opposeth and exalteth himself ( we must not exalt Self, the old man, the carnal man, the earthly man, the devilish man, the beastly nature of man, psalms 73:22 King David said , So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee. We must deny Self, Matt 10:38,39; and die to Self the old man has to be crucified, the book of Roman's is the 6th book in the NT, chapter 6, and verse 6=666, the old man has to be crucified, so the born again, spiritual man, born from above. Christ in you the hope of glory rules your temple) above all that is called God, or is worshipped ( man likes to be worshipped, Self likes to be worshipped, false prophets, pastors, teachers, false apostles, Christian artists, even people in the secular world etc. Just like Lucifer Isa 14:13,14; Ezek 28:1-9; 2Tim 3:1-5; 2Cor 11-1-15 ); so he as God sitteth( look where he sitteth )in the temple of God ( we are the temple of God, God does not dwell in temples made with human hands, our spiritual man is the Holy of holies, the soul is the Holy place, the body is the outer court, Acts 17:24,25; 1Cor 3:16,17; ), shewing himself ( there's that word Self ) that he is God.5. Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things ( the apostle Paul always warned the church of Christ Jesus ) ? 6. And now ye know what withholdeth ( restraineth means to hold back ) that he ( the son of perdition ) might be revealed in his time ( let's go back to verse 3 and will see when the son of perdition will be revealed at the falling away first ).7. For the mystery of iniquity ( lawlessness ) doth already work ( it was already working in Paul's day ): only he ( the Holy Ghost ) who now letteth will let, until he ( the son of perdition ) be taken out of the way, or come out of the midst ( it's a corporate body of son of perdition in the temple of Christ spiritualy speaking, just as Judas iscariot was, the disciples didn't have a clue it was Judas iscariot until he betrayed Jesus Christ with a kiss, when he dip the Sop into the dish satan entered him, and history is going to repeat itself again, the sons of perdition are going to betray the brothers to death. Matt 24:9,10 ) 8. And then shall that Wicked be revealed ( in the NT, they are corporate bodies, Jesus has His body and that's the true church in means called out one's out of religious babylonian churches . Satan also has a body and it's all the children of disobedience among the people of God, the tares, and the goat's, they have a anti christ spirit ). Whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming.9. Even him ( it's a corporate body of false prophets, Jesus said many false prophets not prophet but many would come in His name. Many serve a different Jesus and a different gospel) whose coming is after the working of Satan ( that's his body the sons of perdition 2Cor 11:4,13-15; Gal 1:6-9 )with all power and signs (all kinds of deceptions, and counterfeit,) and lying wonders.( Jesus saidm if it were possible the elect could be deceived )10. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness( 1Jn 2:15-29; James 4:4 )in them ( the apostate people of God )that perish; because they received not the love of the Truth, ( the real true Gospel , they were spiritually blind to truth Isa 66:4), that they might be saved.11. And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion, ( listen now ) that they should believe a lie ( such as a pre- rapture , pre trib rapture, once saved always saved ) : That they all might damned who believe not the Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." My brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus our Lord said He would send the comforter the Holy Ghost and He would be with us and in us, and lead us into all truth. If you have the love of the truth you will not be deceived by the false prophets, and many doctrines of religion and denominations out there. CHRIST IS NOT DIVIDED INTO RELIGION OR DENOMINATIONS. Those are babylonian churches. The Mother Harlot has many daughters, and she and her daughters persecuted Jesus and the apostles and handed them over to be Roman beast of that time. Rev 17:56; Rev 18:24, Matt 23; and history repeats itself again, it's going to happen to the church the body of Christ in the tribulation, if the church believes it or not. You ain't going to fly away, or be raptured up unless you die before the tribulation. The church of Christ Jesus will prevail and come out victoriously and give her life for the Master and Saviour Jesus Christ our Lord. Rev 6:9-11; Rev 13:7; Rev 12:11; and Rev 15:2; Rev 20:4,6
@@ClintonBrownell It's s a corporate body of Christ Jesus in His people not Two men but a corporate body of born again born from above Jews and Gentiles. They have the spirit of Elijah and the spirit of Moses, just as the spirit of Elijah was in John the Baptist.
Nope. You are one of the end time deceivers. The tribulation is the wrath of Satan against the church, So your video is wrong. Mat 24 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. The rapture is in the clouds. Every single time.
What I do not like about pretribulation: The tribulation starts with a covenant, not with the rapture. Pretribers do not distinguish this very well, essentially requiring the tribulation to start with the rapture since there cannot be much time between the rapture and the covenant to come for it to make any sense. What I do not like about postibulation: All the believers are raptured at the end of the tribulation and all the unbelievers are put to death, leaving no one to populate the millenium. What I do not like about the in between: The day, or much closer than a season, can be predicted once the covenant is given.
@@fabbrofamily7038 Yes, and what I have gotten so far is every view has something that works and something that does not. Some of it is people try to fit things in where they do not belong. Many try to fit Gog and Magog into the tribulation while John mentions them at the end of the 1000 years, which is a time Israel would certainly be recovered from war. I have seen many try to speculate on when the Old Testament saints would be raised and most of those I have read do not refer to or explain Matthew 27:51-53. There are many who study the so called apocaliptic passages but look at little else in the Scriptures for other details or limits. Daniel's 70 weeks of years is built on Jeremiah's 70 years, which is built on the Law the Lord gave to Moses. Zerubbabel and Joshua the Priest were types of what was to come, and so were many others. So yes, study.
Exactly, the word RAPTURE does not exist in the English Bible. We have a 1st Resurrection & a 2nd Death both covered in Rev 20. RAPTURE is used by "mason" teachers to CONFUSE your discernment. (PROPHET)
Probably because there is no such thing as a rapture. It is a man made fallacy, spun off the original which is the second coming of Christ. The only people who believe in a Rapture are ones who are full of fear surrounding the period of tribulations. There belief is absolutely just wanting to avoid tribulations. We don’t have to get them to change their minds. Reality will set in when they are still here for them. These are the people who will lose hope and their hearts fail because they did not prepare for the bridegroom and they have no oil in their lamps
There will be no 'rapture' JESUS will return on judgement day "THE GREAT AND TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD"! Ask yourself this question,if JESUS comes back and takes all the believers up to heaven, Why would GOD ALMIGHTY permit the earth to go on if all that's left is the damned ???
No pre trib rapture. It is a lie. Not sure why you have never read the bible. Mat 24 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake.
And by "resist evil" you mean put trust in Jesus Christ and don't take the Mark of the Beast. This will probably cause starvation or beheading or loss of life in some form. But once that is over...you will have eternal life with God!!!
@@sewingstoryprojects6178 I hope it's like in the bible Daniel and his comrades refused to bow to the gold statue of Nebuchadnezzar Matthew 16:25 For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it.
There is NO difference in the RAPTURE, RESURRECTION, and second COMING. They are the exact same event. This is what Jesus taught. Mt13:30, Lu17:26-30, Jn5:28-29. Where does JESUS teach a TIME-PERIOD between this event in ANY of these verses???? In Lu 17:29 Jesus said the SAME DAY destroyed THEM ALL. What part of same day is hard to understand.
Incorrect. Revelation 20 explains the 1st Resurrection & the 2nd Death, they are NOT the SAME. The 1st Resurrection JESUS comes to the clouds in the 2nd Death JESUS comes to the Earth. (PROPHET)
@@ClintonBrownell Let me guess, you just repeat what you were taught by MAN and not Gods word. You have clearly never studied what Jesus taught. But you THINK you understand revelation. Rev 20:5-6 The FIRST resurrection CANNOT be a physical resurrection. How do I KNOW this? Because it DOES NOT align with what JESUS taught. Jesus taught ONE resurrection. Mt3:30. Where is YOUR time-periods between this event? Lu 17:26-30 The SAME DAY destroyed THEM ALL. Will you CHANGE same day and ADD your time-periods to what Jesus taught? How about what Jesus taught in Jn6:39-40,44,54. He said he will RAISE (Resurrect) believers on the LAST DAY. The he said in Jn12:48 he would JUDGE the unbelievers on the LAST DAY. Everything Jesus taught was THE resurrection and THE DAY of judgement happen TOGETHER. Mt12:41-42. If you CANNOT understand what Jesus taught. (One resurrection) you will never understand prophecy.
@@ClintonBrownell This is how little you know about Gods word. You completely ignore what Jesus taught, that's why you did not address the scriptures I gave you. So, great teacher, if your prophecies are from the Lord. Then QUOTE just one verse where Jesus teaches YOUR so-called pre-trib rapture? Just one teacher.
@@markhauserbible7168 I don't address multiple inaccuracies each one. There is no such thing as a Pre Trib ANYTHING. We are nearing the midpoint in Tribulation NOW. Either believe what I post or not, it's up to you. My PROPHECIES do come from the LORD, so I guess you're wrong on more than one issue. (PROPHET)
All this coming and going gives me a headache... Almost like Jesse Duplantis making various and a sundry round trip exploits to somewhere in the heavens he defines to be his destination location... The thousand (1K) millennial reign starts after the resurrection... Hang on tight Buckey: its gonna be a bumpy ride during the last 3 1/2 yrs (The Great) as the tribulation kicks off into full swing... Ain't Nobody gonna be confused when the bad dude with horns (as in the movies) starts his rule of terror and beheading... This is where you really get to put your neck on the line for JESUS our just give lip service as you are granted a one way boarding pass for a trip to the Lake of Fire...
No rapture till the end, just the beginning of sorrows, Brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus, we all need to be overcomer's, we all need to run the race that is set before us that no man takes away our crown 👑, thing are going to intense more in the day to come. We need to keep our eyes on Christ Jesus, not in Egypt type of the world 🌎. God is bringing tribulation, His behind the beast system and is bringing in the mark of the beast to do a separation between His people, and the children of the devil. God is all Sovereign He wrote the book 📖. Satan is already defeated at the cross. All we need is to carry our cross and die to self and the World 🌎, We the body of Christ Jesus must be His witnesses to a dying generation, be the Light and the Salt of the earth, remember this that Christ Jesus is coming in His people Isaiah 60:1,2, before He comes for His people. You see Jesus never taught a pre rapture nor a pre trib rapture neither did the apostle's teach a pre rapture nor a pre trib rapture, the apostle said through many tribulations we shall enter the kingdom of heaven. They all a part of the Bride of Christ, they all suffered persecution from the Great Harlot and the daughter's and were killed by the Roman empire beast system of that day, and History is going to repeat itself again, for the Word of God says there is nothing new under the sun. So get Full of the Holy Ghost fill your lamp ( spiritual man )with oil 🪔 and your vessel ( that's your sou ) l with Holy Ghost oil 🪔, the church of Jesus Christ is going to shine one more time to this lost generation. The latter rain of the Holy Ghost is coming in His people, many are going to come into the kingdom of God in the tribulation, people that you thought didn't have hope are going to come to repentance through the Power of the Holy Ghost. But it comes with a price follow the Narrow road that lead's to life, Jesus said we must endure till the end. To the 7 churches. To be overcomer's just as He overcame. The Apostle Peter said that this false teachers have misinterpret Paul's epistles as they do others scripture's bringing themselves into their own destruction. The Bible says that he that teaches lies is part of the tail of the dragon Rev 12. So pre rapture, and pre trib rapture is a lie, and we are responsible for the blood of this people if we don't preach Truth, we must have the Love of the Truth. We must eat the whole Lamb 🐑 of God, it's head that's the mind of Christ, it's inward parts that's the whole Word, not pick and picking scripture that pleases the flesh. But eat everything that Christ Jesus taught. We must eat it's Legs, that's to walk as Jesus walked, partake of His suffering walking the Narrow road. And finish the course just as the apostle Paul said that there is a crown 👑 of righteousness waiting for him in that day, and which is that day it's at The Last Trump. The 1st resurrection and we which are alive shall be caught up to meet the Lord in the air, therefore comfort one another in Love. We are more than conquers through Christ Jesus our Lord. God bless.
This subject will always divide opinion, but either way we must be prepared and put our faith in lord Jesus Christ
It wouldn’t if people paid attention to what the BIBLE says and not necessarily clergy! This is an excellent answer! Forward it to those who have been following man, not God’s word!
@@jesusbeloved3953 the devil wants us believers to be divided, it is healthy sometimes for Christians to have different opinions we can have unity in Christ.
@@chriscottingham20032THESS 2:1. Now we beseech you, brethren , by the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ ( before Jesus Christ comes in the clouds of glory, His coming in His saints it's called the epiphanie a corporate body of the man - child ministry, the 2 witnesses to minister to the church in the tribulation Rev 12:5,6; 2Thess 1:10, Hos 6:1-3; psalm 149:5-9; Isa 60:1,2; Acts 2:16-21; Rev 10:9-11; to preach the everlasting gospel to all creation ), and by our gathering together unto Him ( we gather unto Jesus Christ not religion nor denominations or man ) 2. That ye be not soon shaken in mind ( that's your soul area ), or be troubled, neither by spirit (wrong revelation, doctrines of demons , religious spirits , anti-christ spirit 1Jn 4:1-6; 2Jn verse 7; 2Pet 2:1-3; 1Tim 4:1 ), nor by word ( what's being preached, or taught, Lk 8:15. Jesus told His disciples to be careful with the leaven of the pharisees those are the preacher's of today, and to be careful with the leaven of herod that's your government ), nor by letter ( books, magazine's ,tracks ), as from us, as that the day of the Lord is at hand. 3. Let no man ( preacher, pastor, teacher, false prophet ) deceive ( beguile, trick you, tickle your ear ) by any means: for that day shall not come ( the coming of the Lord ), Except there come a falling away first ( Apostasy defecting from the truth, a great rebellion. 1Tim4:1; 2Tim3:1-5; 2Pet 2:3; Jude 18; Jn 6:66=666) , and the man of sin ( inside of each of us is the man of sin it's called the old man ) be revealed the son of perdition ( Judas iscariot was called the son of perdition by Jesus in Jn 17:12; Jn 13:26,27 SOP means son of perdition or destruction ). 4.Who opposeth and exalteth himself ( we must not exalt Self, the old man, the carnal man, the earthly man, the devilish man, the beastly nature of man, psalms 73:22 King David said , So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee. We must deny Self, Matt 10:38,39; and die to Self the old man has to be crucified, the book of Roman's is the 6th book in the NT, chapter 6, and verse 6=666, the old man has to be crucified, so the born again, spiritual man, born from above. Christ in you the hope of glory rules your temple) above all that is called God, or is worshipped ( man likes to be worshipped, Self likes to be worshipped, false prophets, pastors, teachers, false apostles, Christian artists, even people in the secular world etc. Just like Lucifer Isa 14:13,14; Ezek 28:1-9; 2Tim 3:1-5; 2Cor 11-1-15 ); so he as God sitteth( look where he sitteth )in the temple of God ( we are the temple of God, God does not dwell in temples made with human hands, our spiritual man is the Holy of holies, the soul is the Holy place, the body is the outer court, Acts 17:24,25; 1Cor 3:16,17; ), shewing himself ( there's that word Self ) that he is God.5. Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things ( the apostle Paul always warned the church of Christ Jesus ) ? 6. And now ye know what withholdeth ( restraineth means to hold back ) that he ( the son of perdition ) might be revealed in his time ( let's go back to verse 3 and will see when the son of perdition will be revealed at the falling away first ).7. For the mystery of iniquity ( lawlessness ) doth already work ( it was already working in Paul's day ): only he ( the Holy Ghost ) who now letteth will let, until he ( the son of perdition ) be taken out of the way, or come out of the midst ( it's a corporate body of son of perdition in the temple of Christ spiritualy speaking, just as Judas iscariot was, the disciples didn't have a clue it was Judas iscariot until he betrayed Jesus Christ with a kiss, when he dip the Sop into the dish satan entered him, and history is going to repeat itself again, the sons of perdition are going to betray the brothers to death. Matt 24:9,10 ) 8. And then shall that Wicked be revealed ( in the NT, they are corporate bodies, Jesus has His body and that's the true church in means called out one's out of religious babylonian churches . Satan also has a body and it's all the children of disobedience among the people of God, the tares, and the goat's, they have a anti christ spirit ). Whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming.9. Even him ( it's a corporate body of false prophets, Jesus said many false prophets not prophet but many would come in His name. Many serve a different Jesus and a different gospel) whose coming is after the working of Satan ( that's his body the sons of perdition 2Cor 11:4,13-15; Gal 1:6-9 )with all power and signs (all kinds of deceptions, and counterfeit,) and lying wonders.( Jesus saidm if it were possible the elect could be deceived )10. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness( 1Jn 2:15-29; James 4:4 )in them ( the apostate people of God )that perish; because they received not the love of the Truth, ( the real true Gospel , they were spiritually blind to truth Isa 66:4), that they might be saved.11. And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion, ( listen now ) that they should believe a lie ( such as a pre- rapture , pre trib rapture, once saved always saved ) : That they all might damned who believe not the Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." My brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus our Lord said He would send the comforter the Holy Ghost and He would be with us and in us, and lead us into all truth. If you have the love of the truth you will not be deceived by the false prophets, and many doctrines of religion and denominations out there. CHRIST IS NOT DIVIDED INTO RELIGION OR DENOMINATIONS. Those are babylonian churches. The Mother Harlot has many daughters, and she and her daughters persecuted Jesus and the apostles and handed them over to be Roman beast of that time. Rev 17:56; Rev 18:24, Matt 23; and history repeats itself again, it's going to happen to the church the body of Christ in the tribulation, if the church believes it or not. You ain't going to fly away, or be raptured up unless you die before the tribulation. The church of Christ Jesus will prevail and come out victoriously and give her life for the Master and Saviour Jesus Christ our Lord. Rev 6:9-11; Rev 13:7; Rev 12:11; and Rev 15:2; Rev 20:4,6
@@chriscottingham2003Amen ❤
THE WORD OF GOD? BIBLICAL ESCHATOLOGY IS CLEAR.
EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT VIDEO!
I have read several comments that say they are the same. They are NOT the same. One way to remember it is,.....in the Rapture, Christ's feet do not touch the earth. In the Second Coming, Christ's feet will touch the earth. When Jesus Christ came to the earth as a baby, was His first coming.
JESUS comes to the CLOUDS for the 1st Resurrection which is SOON..
(PROPHET)
2THESS 2:1. Now we beseech you, brethren , by the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ ( before Jesus Christ comes in the clouds of glory, His coming in His saints it's called the epiphanie a corporate body of the man - child ministry, the 2 witnesses to minister to the church in the tribulation Rev 12:5,6; 2Thess 1:10, Hos 6:1-3; psalm 149:5-9; Isa 60:1,2; Acts 2:16-21; Rev 10:9-11; to preach the everlasting gospel to all creation ), and by our gathering together unto Him ( we gather unto Jesus Christ not religion nor denominations or man ) 2. That ye be not soon shaken in mind ( that's your soul area ), or be troubled, neither by spirit (wrong revelation, doctrines of demons , religious spirits , anti-christ spirit 1Jn 4:1-6; 2Jn verse 7; 2Pet 2:1-3; 1Tim 4:1 ), nor by word ( what's being preached, or taught, Lk 8:15. Jesus told His disciples to be careful with the leaven of the pharisees those are the preacher's of today, and to be careful with the leaven of herod that's your government ), nor by letter ( books, magazine's ,tracks ), as from us, as that the day of the Lord is at hand. 3. Let no man ( preacher, pastor, teacher, false prophet ) deceive ( beguile, trick you, tickle your ear ) by any means: for that day shall not come ( the coming of the Lord ), Except there come a falling away first ( Apostasy defecting from the truth, a great rebellion. 1Tim4:1; 2Tim3:1-5; 2Pet 2:3; Jude 18; Jn 6:66=666) , and the man of sin ( inside of each of us is the man of sin it's called the old man ) be revealed the son of perdition ( Judas iscariot was called the son of perdition by Jesus in Jn 17:12; Jn 13:26,27 SOP means son of perdition or destruction ). 4.Who opposeth and exalteth himself ( we must not exalt Self, the old man, the carnal man, the earthly man, the devilish man, the beastly nature of man, psalms 73:22 King David said , So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee. We must deny Self, Matt 10:38,39; and die to Self the old man has to be crucified, the book of Roman's is the 6th book in the NT, chapter 6, and verse 6=666, the old man has to be crucified, so the born again, spiritual man, born from above. Christ in you the hope of glory rules your temple) above all that is called God, or is worshipped ( man likes to be worshipped, Self likes to be worshipped, false prophets, pastors, teachers, false apostles, Christian artists, even people in the secular world etc. Just like Lucifer Isa 14:13,14; Ezek 28:1-9; 2Tim 3:1-5; 2Cor 11-1-15 ); so he as God sitteth( look where he sitteth )in the temple of God ( we are the temple of God, God does not dwell in temples made with human hands, our spiritual man is the Holy of holies, the soul is the Holy place, the body is the outer court, Acts 17:24,25; 1Cor 3:16,17; ), shewing himself ( there's that word Self ) that he is God.5. Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things ( the apostle Paul always warned the church of Christ Jesus ) ? 6. And now ye know what withholdeth ( restraineth means to hold back ) that he ( the son of perdition ) might be revealed in his time ( let's go back to verse 3 and will see when the son of perdition will be revealed at the falling away first ).7. For the mystery of iniquity ( lawlessness ) doth already work ( it was already working in Paul's day ): only he ( the Holy Ghost ) who now letteth will let, until he ( the son of perdition ) be taken out of the way, or come out of the midst ( it's a corporate body of son of perdition in the temple of Christ spiritualy speaking, just as Judas iscariot was, the disciples didn't have a clue it was Judas iscariot until he betrayed Jesus Christ with a kiss, when he dip the Sop into the dish satan entered him, and history is going to repeat itself again, the sons of perdition are going to betray the brothers to death. Matt 24:9,10 ) 8. And then shall that Wicked be revealed ( in the NT, they are corporate bodies, Jesus has His body and that's the true church in means called out one's out of religious babylonian churches . Satan also has a body and it's all the children of disobedience among the people of God, the tares, and the goat's, they have a anti christ spirit ). Whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming.9. Even him ( it's a corporate body of false prophets, Jesus said many false prophets not prophet but many would come in His name. Many serve a different Jesus and a different gospel) whose coming is after the working of Satan ( that's his body the sons of perdition 2Cor 11:4,13-15; Gal 1:6-9 )with all power and signs (all kinds of deceptions, and counterfeit,) and lying wonders.( Jesus saidm if it were possible the elect could be deceived )10. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness( 1Jn 2:15-29; James 4:4 )in them ( the apostate people of God )that perish; because they received not the love of the Truth, ( the real true Gospel , they were spiritually blind to truth Isa 66:4), that they might be saved.11. And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion, ( listen now ) that they should believe a lie ( such as a pre- rapture , pre trib rapture, once saved always saved ) : That they all might damned who believe not the Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." My brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus our Lord said He would send the comforter the Holy Ghost and He would be with us and in us, and lead us into all truth. If you have the love of the truth you will not be deceived by the false prophets, and many doctrines of religion and denominations out there. CHRIST IS NOT DIVIDED INTO RELIGION OR DENOMINATIONS. Those are babylonian churches. The Mother Harlot has many daughters, and she and her daughters persecuted Jesus and the apostles and handed them over to be Roman beast of that time. Rev 17:56; Rev 18:24, Matt 23; and history repeats itself again, it's going to happen to the church the body of Christ in the tribulation, if the church believes it or not. You ain't going to fly away, or be raptured up unless you die before the tribulation. The church of Christ Jesus will prevail and come out victoriously and give her life for the Master and Saviour Jesus Christ our Lord. Rev 6:9-11; Rev 13:7; Rev 12:11; and Rev 15:2; Rev 20:4,6
@@ClintonBrownell even by that logic the saints who pretribbers insist are not the church, are the ones who came to life and reigned with Christ in the first resurrection.
Post-tribbers logic: rapture at the second coming . what’s the point of “that” logic? I don’t think they understand what the tribulation is. The tribulation will be the most catastrophic events ever to happen in the history of earth. Do you really think we will be going about business as usual: eating, drinking, marrying, at the end of the tribulation? Heck no! That’s just laughable.
@@Jerrymc1975 We understand what it is and the distinction between it and God's wrath (they are not the same)
I don't think the rapture will be secret
Very True…Biblical…There is only one visible second coming of Christ…
This is why many people object to there even being a Rapture.
because a Trumpet (and all the other markers) are not in secret.
The only way this could be reconciled is if only believers hear these distinctions... while unbelievers (which arguably characterizes most modern Christians) are not in tune to this "octave".
No rapture till the end, just the beginning of sorrows, Brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus, we all need to be overcomer's, we all need to run the race that is set before us that no man takes away our crown 👑, thing are going to intense more in the day to come. We need to keep our eyes on Christ Jesus, not in Egypt type of the world 🌎. God is bringing tribulation, His behind the beast system and is bringing in the mark of the beast to do a separation between His people, and the children of the devil. God is all Sovereign He wrote the book 📖. Satan is already defeated at the cross. All we need is to carry our cross and die to self and the World 🌎, We the body of Christ Jesus must be His witnesses to a dying generation, be the Light and the Salt of the earth, remember this that Christ Jesus is coming in His people Isaiah 60:1,2, before He comes for His people. You see Jesus never taught a pre rapture nor a pre trib rapture neither did the apostle's teach a pre rapture nor a pre trib rapture, the apostle said through many tribulations we shall enter the kingdom of heaven. They all a part of the Bride of Christ, they all suffered persecution from the Great Harlot and the daughter's and were killed by the Roman empire beast system of that day, and History is going to repeat itself again, for the Word of God says there is nothing new under the sun. So get Full of the Holy Ghost fill your lamp ( spiritual man )with oil 🪔 and your vessel ( that's your sou ) l with Holy Ghost oil 🪔, the church of Jesus Christ is going to shine one more time to this lost generation. The latter rain of the Holy Ghost is coming in His people, many are going to come into the kingdom of God in the tribulation, people that you thought didn't have hope are going to come to repentance through the Power of the Holy Ghost. But it comes with a price follow the Narrow road that lead's to life, Jesus said we must endure till the end. To the 7 churches. To be overcomer's just as He overcame. The Apostle Peter said that this false teachers have misinterpret Paul's epistles as they do others scripture's bringing themselves into their own destruction. The Bible says that he that teaches lies is part of the tail of the dragon Rev 12. So pre rapture, and pre trib rapture is a lie, and we are responsible for the blood of this people if we don't preach Truth, we must have the Love of the Truth. We must eat the whole Lamb 🐑 of God, it's head that's the mind of Christ, it's inward parts that's the whole Word, not pick and picking scripture that pleases the flesh. But eat everything that Christ Jesus taught. We must eat it's Legs, that's to walk as Jesus walked, partake of His suffering walking the Narrow road. And finish the course just as the apostle Paul said that there is a crown 👑 of righteousness waiting for him in that day, and which is that day it's at The Last Trump. The 1st resurrection and we which are alive shall be caught up to meet the Lord in the air, therefore comfort one another in Love. We are more than conquers through Christ Jesus our Lord. God bless.
@@dandjconsultants8965 nope
NO IT WONT BE A SECRET, THATS MORONIC, THE WHOLE WOLRD LEFT BEHIND WILL INDEED KNOW.
The rapture can really be seen as a call to Jesus rather than what people think as the 2nd coming. Consider that there are precendents in the Bible for God protecting His own from divine judgment: The Great Flood, Sodom & Gomorrah being the greatest examples of God removing and preserving His people before judgment was enacted. In both cases, judgement was almost immediately after. Here in the age of grace, we (the church) being indwelled with Gods own Spirit must be reunited with Him and left out of range of judgement. Our presense here, building the Kingdom on earth, will suddenly come to an end at the rapture that is immediately followed by the great tribulation.
Respectfully I do not see any scripture that refers to a secret pre tribulational rapture. All I see is a final resurrection at the second coming of Christ and a final judgement. The secret rapture theory did not come into church history until the late 1800’s by John Nelson Darby of The Plymouth brethren.🙏❤️.
The 1st Resurrection & 2nd Death are both found in Rev 20. RAPTURE is NOT in any English Bible. It means 1st Resurrection to SOME and 2nd Death to others. The "masons" use RAPTURE to confuse discernment of those who read English Bibles.
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Not subject to wrath. Sorry no rapture.
Well said
The pre tribbers are on one side of the ditch. You are in the ditch on the other side, Do you really want the truth?
Revelation 3:10 Matthew 24:40 ?
Thank you. This is the way I've always understood the two events, but, since I'm not the expert that you folks are, it's good to have it neatly summarized and explained. Unfortunately, this is subject will remain a divisive point for many folks. Fortunately, it is not a salvific issue.
No rapture till the end, just the beginning of sorrows, Brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus, we all need to be overcomer's, we all need to run the race that is set before us that no man takes away our crown 👑, thing are going to intense more in the day to come. We need to keep our eyes on Christ Jesus, not in Egypt type of the world 🌎. God is bringing tribulation, His behind the beast system and is bringing in the mark of the beast to do a separation between His people, and the children of the devil. God is all Sovereign He wrote the book 📖. Satan is already defeated at the cross. All we need is to carry our cross and die to self and the World 🌎, We the body of Christ Jesus must be His witnesses to a dying generation, be the Light and the Salt of the earth, remember this that Christ Jesus is coming in His people Isaiah 60:1,2, before He comes for His people. You see Jesus never taught a pre rapture nor a pre trib rapture neither did the apostle's teach a pre rapture nor a pre trib rapture, the apostle said through many tribulations we shall enter the kingdom of heaven. They all a part of the Bride of Christ, they all suffered persecution from the Great Harlot and the daughter's and were killed by the Roman empire beast system of that day, and History is going to repeat itself again, for the Word of God says there is nothing new under the sun. So get Full of the Holy Ghost fill your lamp ( spiritual man )with oil 🪔 and your vessel ( that's your sou ) l with Holy Ghost oil 🪔, the church of Jesus Christ is going to shine one more time to this lost generation. The latter rain of the Holy Ghost is coming in His people, many are going to come into the kingdom of God in the tribulation, people that you thought didn't have hope are going to come to repentance through the Power of the Holy Ghost. But it comes with a price follow the Narrow road that lead's to life, Jesus said we must endure till the end. To the 7 churches. To be overcomer's just as He overcame. The Apostle Peter said that this false teachers have misinterpret Paul's epistles as they do others scripture's bringing themselves into their own destruction. The Bible says that he that teaches lies is part of the tail of the dragon Rev 12. So pre rapture, and pre trib rapture is a lie, and we are responsible for the blood of this people if we don't preach Truth, we must have the Love of the Truth. We must eat the whole Lamb 🐑 of God, it's head that's the mind of Christ, it's inward parts that's the whole Word, not pick and picking scripture that pleases the flesh. But eat everything that Christ Jesus taught. We must eat it's Legs, that's to walk as Jesus walked, partake of His suffering walking the Narrow road. And finish the course just as the apostle Paul said that there is a crown 👑 of righteousness waiting for him in that day, and which is that day it's at The Last Trump. The 1st resurrection and we which are alive shall be caught up to meet the Lord in the air, therefore comfort one another in Love. We are more than conquers through Christ Jesus our Lord. God bless.
BUT MANY IN WORKS BASED FAITH ARE NOT BORN AGAIN, SO THEY NEED TO LEARN AND BE BORN AGAIN JOHN3:1-7
None the two are one event. But hey if I’m wrong, happy to go either way .
You are not wrong but most are and more likely be apart of the Apostasy because they twisted the word of God .
Very True…One event…Biblical…
Pre-trib is a dangerous lie
This is a simple question to answer! The rapture is not biblical, it will never happen! The second coming of Jesus is biblical! You can read about this event in Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21, and II Thessalonians 2.
I respectfully disagree with Got Questions Ministries regarding this topic. First, the video presentation leaves out words in passages shared. 2nd, they separate the rapture from the 2nd coming of Jesus in a factual way, which is not. The rapture in my opinion, based on the Bible does not occur before the tribulation, nor is it a secret event, that can happen "at any moment," because not all the signs have happened yet. Also, for a certainty, we will still be here tomorrow, and the next day, and next month, and into 2025 as well.
If my understanding needs some redirecting, so to speak, then can anyone show me WHERE in the Bible does it say or infer that the rapture is during a Pre-trib moment? I can share many simple and clear scriptures that say the rapture is post-trib/pre wrath, which is during the 2nd coming of Jesus. Btw, I read from the KJV.
God bless you all.
YOU MUST STUDY THE BOOK OF DANIEL IN REFERENCE TO REVELATION, AND JEREMIAH30 AND MORE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TRIBULATION PERIOD OF 7YRS ACTUALLY IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@fabbrofamily7038why are you yelling?
Based on what I read yeah they are two separate events, it's mentioned in the Bible. So this video is right. Thank you GQM.
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It's the same thing.
I agree with every single point of this video and have for the most part of my life since I was born again at the age of 20 y/o in 1977. However, it would have been better if some references had been provided to back up the points. I think there are very clear references in the Bible that show the "coming in the air WITH the saints" as opposed to the calling out of the living believers at the rapture before the tribulation begins. At the Second Coming, it's clear that Jesus comes down to the earth and sets His feet upon the Mount of Olives, At the rapture Jesus does not come down to the earth but calls out His bride and takes the saved, living, and dead, with Him to heaven to return 7 years later. Overall very good video, but references to back it up would make it A+++.
Amen, thank you!
One is imminent (happen at any moment), and the other has a specific criteria that needs to be met first.
There is no Rapture. Christ came again, as promised, on the Day of Pentecost 50 days after His crucifixion..... Very bad teaching...
The very thing on my Heart he just reached on. Thank you, and when we return with Christ what kind of Bodies will we have? Obviously when we are Raptured we will leave the Flesh
Those who oppose the PreTrib Rapture need to ask themselves: 1.) How many aspects to the first coming of Jesus was there?
2.) Does Jesus change?
The answer to these questions are simple...
1.) Two
2.) No
It is easy to see that since there were two aspects to Jesus first coming; and that Jesus doesn't change, then there is therefore two aspects to Jesus second coming.
First coming:
1.) Preincarnate appearances
2.) Incarnate coming
Second coming:
1.) Appearance in the air to gather the righteous
2.) Coming to earth to gather the wicked first
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Rapture = The righteous being received by Jesus Himself (not angels) in the air, to be with Him at the Father's House beholding His Glory. (John 14:1-4; 17:24; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; 1 Corinthians 15:51-52; Luke 21:36) - Pre-trib Rapture
Second Coming = Angels gathering the wicked first, then the righteous being gathered by angels back to Jesus in Jerusalem, Israel. (Matthew 13:28-30, 39-43, 49-50; 24:31, 37-42; 25:31-32; Mark 13:26-27; Luke 17:26-30, 34-36) - Post-trib Harvest
Let's keep these events in their proper order.
Maranatha!!
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VVarpedVVariors Thank you for the breakdown in scriptures between the rapture and the second coming. I respectfully disagree with your separation. I have questions: [ 1 Thess 4:13-17 ], spec vs 16, it says the Dead in Christ shall rise FIRST (an order of things, like in 1 Cor 15:20-23) Reading further in 1 Thess 4: Vs 17 - THEN (after) we which are alive and REMAIN (or LEFT at the time - depending on which version you are reading from) will be caught up, right! So, WHEN will the Dead rise? In the Book of John, Jesus says he will raise us up at the Last Day, which is also known as the resurrection. That is pretty clear! There are other, clear scriptures that support this. So, how can there be a rapture that is pre-anything?
The word "Remain," or "left" - what does that mean to you? What does the Last Day mean to you, and what scripture(s) can you share about what that Last Day means to you?
Again, thank you, and God bless you with understanding.
@michaelbest7872 Thank you for your cordiallity. The main issue with "the dead in Christ" is not "dead", but is "in Christ".
When does a person become "in Christ" ?
That is the question.
Someone becomes "in Christ" only when they have the indwelling Holy Spirit.
We know the Holy Spirit was not sent for this ministry until Acts 2. No Old Testament saint was "in Christ". They were dead, but not "in Christ". You cannot be "in Christ" before Christ came, died, resurrected, ascended, and the Holy Spirit's indwelling as a seal until the day of redemption. So "the dead in Christ" only refers to the dead Church age saints from Pentecost until the Rapture.
As for the Last Day... each category of persons has their own Last Day...
The dead in Christ and the alive who remain (those alive "in Christ") at the time of the Resurrection/Pretribulational Rapture.
The two witnesses in the middle of the 70th Week of Daniel.
The Old Testament saints and Tribulation martyrs after the Second Coming and prior to the Millennium.
The resurrection of the unjust at the White Throne Judgment just prior to the New Heavens and New Earth.
To conclude, I'm pretty sure we can agree that those "in Christ" only refers to those who have the indwelling Holy Spirit. We can agree that only the Church age saints have this indwelling Holy Spirit. We should be able to agree that the two witnesses are resurrected at a point in time other than the dead in Christ. And we agree that the unjust dead are resurrected at a point in time different from any of the righteous.
So for someone to say that there is only one Last Day for all persons, is just not plausible. Because even those who would say this, would (at a minimum) have to say that there is another Last Day (for the unjust) - (John 12:48; Revelation 20:11-15; Acts 24:15). Then they would have two Last Days.
But it seems more reasonable just to say that each category of persons has their own Last Day.
Thank you again. And may Jesus richly bless you and shine His Glorious Face upon you and give you peace.
@@VVarpedVVarriors Thank you for sharing your view and opinions.
No.
Please explain to me how The Rapture is a Secret. Thank you!
I think he means it's a secret because no one knows the day or the hour in the Bible.
It will be an event for all the world to see. See Rev11 an example of the resurrection followed by the rapture. They will be running and hiding from Him who sits on the throne. Rev 22 .. when I come My reward is with Me, to give to EVERY man according to his deeds.
Make sure your fruit is the fruit of the Holy Spirit. Holiness.
@@NickGKiefer its clearly not a secret whenever it DOES happens. I Don't understand why they keep saying is a secret🤦🏻♀️
It is not a secret, when Jesus returns to the earth for His bride, every eye will see Him -- Revelation 1:7
@@NickGKiefer funny thing is when Christ talked about the day or the hour , the whole discussion was about the end of the world and his coming therefore the rapture and second coming are one and the same
Even the best of believers will be here for the great Tribulation and the church is mentioned after Revelation 6.
You’ve read from the Scofield reference Bible and have latched on to Hollywood movie teachings.
Very True…
There is no way the church will endure the Tribulation. We are in dwelt by the Holy Spirit which God the Father gave to us as a deposit and proof of His return for us. We have to be removed first. He would NEVER pour out his wrath on himself.
Where is the
Church mentioned after revelation 6? I don't know why they say Rapture is a secret (?) in what sense they mean that,,, because everyone will know…! It will be chaos.
Hollywood? If it was up to you how would you ‘picture’ the event described in 2 Thes 1-10? Honestly
The rapture falls under orthodoxy. There's enough biblical evidence for believers to hold to the doctrine. If it weren't so, it would be disregarded.
To claim that rapture believing Christians are following "Hollywood movie teachings" sounds funny, however, it's weak argumentation. I hope you have better arguments than that?
I held this for 40 years.
7 years ago, I was convicted and called to do my own study of scripture alone. I struggled against this for a couple years. Finally ... I accepted. You, reader, will have to be more agile than I was.
Yes, these are different events and separated by 7 years .... but it isn't the 7 years I was taught and did teach myself.
Dan 9:27 is 7 years ... but the tribulation is 42 months, the last 1/2 of that. 2 Thess 2 tells us the rapture cannot be before the man of lawlessness is revealed. That doesn't happen until he stops the regular sacrifice (which was resumed ~ 3.5 years prior)
The Church will be present as it is during the tribulation (sorta ... The Spirit will be poured out as never before during that 42 months of unrestrained evil) ...
The "Rapture" is immediately before the wrath of The Lamb which starts with ending Armageddon.. immediately AFTER the gathering of the nephilim. Luke 17's account of "one taken/one left" ... where'd they go? The Master's answer ISN'T the 1 Thess 4:16-17 "rapture." You could be in the presence of one of these ... and BAM, he/she is gone right in front of you. I think if you realize what happened, you'll have just enough time to start grinning.
The concurrent 7 years (Heaven/Earth) is AFTER Armageddon ... 7 year Wedding Feast of the Lamb (Rev 19) and the cleanup of Megiddo (Ez 39:9) by the "woman" (Israel's 144k) who was taken away from the dragon by the two wings of a great eagle to a prepared place for 42 months (Rev 12)
Fellow heir with Christ, unless you are called home before Armageddon, you'll get to reject the mark of the beast. The Hebrews hadn't left Egypt during the plagues. They were protected in Goshen. If you have Matt 25 "extra oil," you'll too be protected while we wait for the Bridegroom's arrival ... after sunset. The foolish ones didn't consider it'd be after sunset that's why they had NO oil, not only "not extra" they had none.
So, now's the time to prepare ... to "get extra oil." When the sun sets is not the time to prepare your lamp. We are at the very end of Hosea 6's second day ... to be risen on the 3rd (after sunset)
Yes.....pre-wrath! Believers here during first part then the rapture/resurrection probably at Rev 6:12. Afterall, the raising of that many bodies (first resurrection) would probably result in a huge earthquake?! After that....who can stand?? The great trib for 3.5 years begins. Keep reading... Then, in Chp 7 the sealing (those Jewish believers will help the remnant survive the 3.5 great trib years) and then you read of all of the saved from every tribe and nation before the throne after the rapture/resurrection! AMEN!!!!
@@sewingstoryprojects6178 well, that's not as defined as "not pre-trib." But I think the "rapture" immediately precedes The Wrath of The Lamb ... The understanding I've been recently given doesn't have Jesus "gather" His elect and then 3.5 years later end Armageddon.
The Master said "...endure to The End." Matt 24. Is that only the "end of mankind's dominion?" which would be "mid trib" ... but not "in the middle" ... immediately after the cessation of the regular sacrifice?
Then what could possibly be the two wings of a great eagle which helps "the woman" in Rev 12 to the prepared place? Is that place being prepared now? Yes, at least one of 'em. Assagun Road north of Egbe Nigeria .... "the Jerusalem of Nigeria." Is the "two wings" something supernatural? or possibly Boeing 737s (hopefully not an airbus! :) ) effecting the evacuation out of Bosrah/present day Petra (Micah 2) ... needing believing pilots to fly 'em?
what does it mean when the dead in christ will rise first? doesnt this conflict with "to be absent in the body is to be present the lord? it doesnt make sense to be a believer, die, then be ressurected back to earth in the air to be jesus again.
Your physical body is what is resurrected and then glorified. Your soul/spirit which was already with the Lord, meet and enter into your glorified body which you will have for all eternity. This body, being glorified, cannot get sick, suffer trauma, or suffer physical pain. When we die, our body goes into the ground, but our soul/spirit (what makes us - us ), goes immediately into the presence of Christ Jesus. The mating if you will, and/or the joining of our soul&spirit will occur at the rapture for those who have already died the earthly death (the body). Those believers who are born again in Christ and are physically alive at that time, will simply have their bodies immediately glorified and taken to heaven. I hope this helps and I didn’t cause any confusion with more working. God bless you.
U make good videos
2THESS 2:1. Now we beseech you, brethren , by the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ ( before Jesus Christ comes in the clouds of glory, His coming in His saints it's called the epiphanie a corporate body of the man - child ministry, the 2 witnesses to minister to the church in the tribulation Rev 12:5,6; 2Thess 1:10, Hos 6:1-3; psalm 149:5-9; Isa 60:1,2; Acts 2:16-21; Rev 10:9-11; to preach the everlasting gospel to all creation ), and by our gathering together unto Him ( we gather unto Jesus Christ not religion nor denominations or man ) 2. That ye be not soon shaken in mind ( that's your soul area ), or be troubled, neither by spirit (wrong revelation, doctrines of demons , religious spirits , anti-christ spirit 1Jn 4:1-6; 2Jn verse 7; 2Pet 2:1-3; 1Tim 4:1 ), nor by word ( what's being preached, or taught, Lk 8:15. Jesus told His disciples to be careful with the leaven of the pharisees those are the preacher's of today, and to be careful with the leaven of herod that's your government ), nor by letter ( books, magazine's ,tracks ), as from us, as that the day of the Lord is at hand. 3. Let no man ( preacher, pastor, teacher, false prophet ) deceive ( beguile, trick you, tickle your ear ) by any means: for that day shall not come ( the coming of the Lord ), Except there come a falling away first ( Apostasy defecting from the truth, a great rebellion. 1Tim4:1; 2Tim3:1-5; 2Pet 2:3; Jude 18; Jn 6:66=666) , and the man of sin ( inside of each of us is the man of sin it's called the old man ) be revealed the son of perdition ( Judas iscariot was called the son of perdition by Jesus in Jn 17:12; Jn 13:26,27 SOP means son of perdition or destruction ). 4.Who opposeth and exalteth himself ( we must not exalt Self, the old man, the carnal man, the earthly man, the devilish man, the beastly nature of man, psalms 73:22 King David said , So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee. We must deny Self, Matt 10:38,39; and die to Self the old man has to be crucified, the book of Roman's is the 6th book in the NT, chapter 6, and verse 6=666, the old man has to be crucified, so the born again, spiritual man, born from above. Christ in you the hope of glory rules your temple) above all that is called God, or is worshipped ( man likes to be worshipped, Self likes to be worshipped, false prophets, pastors, teachers, false apostles, Christian artists, even people in the secular world etc. Just like Lucifer Isa 14:13,14; Ezek 28:1-9; 2Tim 3:1-5; 2Cor 11-1-15 ); so he as God sitteth( look where he sitteth )in the temple of God ( we are the temple of God, God does not dwell in temples made with human hands, our spiritual man is the Holy of holies, the soul is the Holy place, the body is the outer court, Acts 17:24,25; 1Cor 3:16,17; ), shewing himself ( there's that word Self ) that he is God.5. Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things ( the apostle Paul always warned the church of Christ Jesus ) ? 6. And now ye know what withholdeth ( restraineth means to hold back ) that he ( the son of perdition ) might be revealed in his time ( let's go back to verse 3 and will see when the son of perdition will be revealed at the falling away first ).7. For the mystery of iniquity ( lawlessness ) doth already work ( it was already working in Paul's day ): only he ( the Holy Ghost ) who now letteth will let, until he ( the son of perdition ) be taken out of the way, or come out of the midst ( it's a corporate body of son of perdition in the temple of Christ spiritualy speaking, just as Judas iscariot was, the disciples didn't have a clue it was Judas iscariot until he betrayed Jesus Christ with a kiss, when he dip the Sop into the dish satan entered him, and history is going to repeat itself again, the sons of perdition are going to betray the brothers to death. Matt 24:9,10 ) 8. And then shall that Wicked be revealed ( in the NT, they are corporate bodies, Jesus has His body and that's the true church in means called out one's out of religious babylonian churches . Satan also has a body and it's all the children of disobedience among the people of God, the tares, and the goat's, they have a anti christ spirit ). Whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming.9. Even him ( it's a corporate body of false prophets, Jesus said many false prophets not prophet but many would come in His name. Many serve a different Jesus and a different gospel) whose coming is after the working of Satan ( that's his body the sons of perdition 2Cor 11:4,13-15; Gal 1:6-9 )with all power and signs (all kinds of deceptions, and counterfeit,) and lying wonders.( Jesus saidm if it were possible the elect could be deceived )10. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness( 1Jn 2:15-29; James 4:4 )in them ( the apostate people of God )that perish; because they received not the love of the Truth, ( the real true Gospel , they were spiritually blind to truth Isa 66:4), that they might be saved.11. And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion, ( listen now ) that they should believe a lie ( such as a pre- rapture , pre trib rapture, once saved always saved ) : That they all might damned who believe not the Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." My brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus our Lord said He would send the comforter the Holy Ghost and He would be with us and in us, and lead us into all truth. If you have the love of the truth you will not be deceived by the false prophets, and many doctrines of religion and denominations out there. CHRIST IS NOT DIVIDED INTO RELIGION OR DENOMINATIONS. Those are babylonian churches. The Mother Harlot has many daughters, and she and her daughters persecuted Jesus and the apostles and handed them over to be Roman beast of that time. Rev 17:56; Rev 18:24, Matt 23; and history repeats itself again, it's going to happen to the church the body of Christ in the tribulation, if the church believes it or not. You ain't going to fly away, or be raptured up unless you die before the tribulation. The church of Christ Jesus will prevail and come out victoriously and give her life for the Master and Saviour Jesus Christ our Lord. Rev 6:9-11; Rev 13:7; Rev 12:11; and Rev 15:2; Rev 20:4,6
Can you find any explicit biblical justification for the following distinctions associated with Pre-Tribulationism?
• Two Second Comings (or stages) (see Matthew 24:27,37; 1 Thessalonians 4:15).
• Two first resurrections (see John 6:40; Revelation 20:4-5).
• Two judgment seats of Christ (see 2 Corinthians 5:10 vs. Matthew 25:31-46).
• Two last trumpets (see 1 Corinthians 15:51 vs. Matthew 24:31; possibly Revelation 11:15).
• Two gatherings of God’s people (see 1 Thessalonians 4:16 vs. Mark 13:27; Matthew 24:31-40).
• Two rewardings of the righteous (see 2 Corinthians 5:10 vs. Matthew 24:46-47).
• Two classes of believers (the Church, spared tribulation, and believers converted during the Tribulation who must endure it).
• The Church will not go through the final Tribulation.
That's a man made teaching. All believers will be caught up with them who rise in the resurrection, Rev. 20 says the 1st one is after the final event (the matk) start studying scripture people
Exactly, it's the same event. People won't open.their bible and study for themselves. They'd rather listen to others and most likely get led down the wrong path.
The MARK is becoming a "mason". The ANTICHRIST (TRUMP) was revealed in 2020.
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Jesus has 2 comings, NOT 3.
The rapture is not a coming of the Lord to the earth. So, yes, there are only 2 comings.
@dougtodd24 I disagree. Rapturists are playing games and saying, "Well, since Jesus comes in the clouds, he doesn't actually touch his feet on earth, so that doesn't count as a 'coming'". When He comes, that's the 2nd Advent, period. Jesus is not coming just to make a u-turn in space. Christians will be caught up to meet Him on His way down, just like the ppl would come outside the city to meet the returning king on his way back to his city. We will be doing the u-turn, not Him.
There is only one Second Coming…Not two & not even three according to Holy Bible…
@@dougtodd24 You are 100% correct.
@@Tell_It_Right Except that is exactly what the Bible teaches.
Matthew 24:38-41 KJV
[38] For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, [39] and knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. [40] Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. [41] Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Those "taken" during the flood, died. Those "taken" upon his return could also die. The elect stay behind?
Would that mean all non believers die at the rapture?
If so would this be a pre tribulation or post tribulation rapture?
If pre trib, does that means Christians will suffer all of the tribulation?
And if only the elect is left on earth, will it be the children they have during the millennial reign of Christ that Satan gathers to attack Jerusalem, after he’s let back out the bottomless pit?
That makes God a mass murderer, didn't he have something to say about killing?
@blkbbw8295 A lot to unpack. If it's the same as what was recorded by historians like Josephus, there will be waves. We could be in the midst of tribulations right now.
Everyone will experience tribulation, even the saints.
Everything that happens after the millennial reign i can speculate based on available evidence. First, if the devil has been released and we are in satans short season, where deception runs rampant. Would he want to deceive us into believing we aren't and the millenial reign never happened?
@Lili-Benovent What one reaps, they shall sow, and God's judgment is always righteous. We cannot comprehend that level of perfection nor create it.
When we choose to ignore, deny, blaspheme and misinterpret God, we do so out of ignorance.
@@Matty_-_Mo When I was a young teenager I stood listening outside my sisters bedroom where she was with her boyfriend, I heard a lot of moaning and giggling then after a little while I heard this - Jesus I am coming, yes yes yes, Oh Jesus Jesus I am coming OOOOhhhhh God it feels soooo good, AAhhhh Gasp Gasp Gasp Ohhh, Hold on and we can come together Ohhh Jesus Jesus Jesus ! ! !
Were they praying or just practising for the rapture ?
Scripture never speaks about a "secret rapture". There is no difference between the second coming and the "rapture". It's *one* event, Jesus will return and judge the earth and the church will be with him for all eternity.
But it does say "no one will know the day or the hour".
If that's true then I find it hard to believe post-trip rapture because wouldn't the people alive at that time in the 7 year tribulation be able to know the day and hour?
Because from the moment Antichrist appears the people at the time would be able to basically know and work out 7years exactly from that day and hour to when Christ's second coming is... 🤔
@@KaziahKerenRose it’s true that no one knows the day or hour. But it won’t be like where believers are suddenly swept away with no trace in an instant.
Simple explanation!
2THESS 2:1. Now we beseech you, brethren , by the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ ( before Jesus Christ comes in the clouds of glory, His coming in His saints it's called the epiphanie a corporate body of the man - child ministry, the 2 witnesses to minister to the church in the tribulation Rev 12:5,6; 2Thess 1:10, Hos 6:1-3; psalm 149:5-9; Isa 60:1,2; Acts 2:16-21; Rev 10:9-11; to preach the everlasting gospel to all creation ), and by our gathering together unto Him ( we gather unto Jesus Christ not religion nor denominations or man ) 2. That ye be not soon shaken in mind ( that's your soul area ), or be troubled, neither by spirit (wrong revelation, doctrines of demons , religious spirits , anti-christ spirit 1Jn 4:1-6; 2Jn verse 7; 2Pet 2:1-3; 1Tim 4:1 ), nor by word ( what's being preached, or taught, Lk 8:15. Jesus told His disciples to be careful with the leaven of the pharisees those are the preacher's of today, and to be careful with the leaven of herod that's your government ), nor by letter ( books, magazine's ,tracks ), as from us, as that the day of the Lord is at hand. 3. Let no man ( preacher, pastor, teacher, false prophet ) deceive ( beguile, trick you, tickle your ear ) by any means: for that day shall not come ( the coming of the Lord ), Except there come a falling away first ( Apostasy defecting from the truth, a great rebellion. 1Tim4:1; 2Tim3:1-5; 2Pet 2:3; Jude 18; Jn 6:66=666) , and the man of sin ( inside of each of us is the man of sin it's called the old man ) be revealed the son of perdition ( Judas iscariot was called the son of perdition by Jesus in Jn 17:12; Jn 13:26,27 SOP means son of perdition or destruction ). 4.Who opposeth and exalteth himself ( we must not exalt Self, the old man, the carnal man, the earthly man, the devilish man, the beastly nature of man, psalms 73:22 King David said , So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee. We must deny Self, Matt 10:38,39; and die to Self the old man has to be crucified, the book of Roman's is the 6th book in the NT, chapter 6, and verse 6=666, the old man has to be crucified, so the born again, spiritual man, born from above. Christ in you the hope of glory rules your temple) above all that is called God, or is worshipped ( man likes to be worshipped, Self likes to be worshipped, false prophets, pastors, teachers, false apostles, Christian artists, even people in the secular world etc. Just like Lucifer Isa 14:13,14; Ezek 28:1-9; 2Tim 3:1-5; 2Cor 11-1-15 ); so he as God sitteth( look where he sitteth )in the temple of God ( we are the temple of God, God does not dwell in temples made with human hands, our spiritual man is the Holy of holies, the soul is the Holy place, the body is the outer court, Acts 17:24,25; 1Cor 3:16,17; ), shewing himself ( there's that word Self ) that he is God.5. Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things ( the apostle Paul always warned the church of Christ Jesus ) ? 6. And now ye know what withholdeth ( restraineth means to hold back ) that he ( the son of perdition ) might be revealed in his time ( let's go back to verse 3 and will see when the son of perdition will be revealed at the falling away first ).7. For the mystery of iniquity ( lawlessness ) doth already work ( it was already working in Paul's day ): only he ( the Holy Ghost ) who now letteth will let, until he ( the son of perdition ) be taken out of the way, or come out of the midst ( it's a corporate body of son of perdition in the temple of Christ spiritualy speaking, just as Judas iscariot was, the disciples didn't have a clue it was Judas iscariot until he betrayed Jesus Christ with a kiss, when he dip the Sop into the dish satan entered him, and history is going to repeat itself again, the sons of perdition are going to betray the brothers to death. Matt 24:9,10 ) 8. And then shall that Wicked be revealed ( in the NT, they are corporate bodies, Jesus has His body and that's the true church in means called out one's out of religious babylonian churches . Satan also has a body and it's all the children of disobedience among the people of God, the tares, and the goat's, they have a anti christ spirit ). Whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming.9. Even him ( it's a corporate body of false prophets, Jesus said many false prophets not prophet but many would come in His name. Many serve a different Jesus and a different gospel) whose coming is after the working of Satan ( that's his body the sons of perdition 2Cor 11:4,13-15; Gal 1:6-9 )with all power and signs (all kinds of deceptions, and counterfeit,) and lying wonders.( Jesus saidm if it were possible the elect could be deceived )10. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness( 1Jn 2:15-29; James 4:4 )in them ( the apostate people of God )that perish; because they received not the love of the Truth, ( the real true Gospel , they were spiritually blind to truth Isa 66:4), that they might be saved.11. And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion, ( listen now ) that they should believe a lie ( such as a pre- rapture , pre trib rapture, once saved always saved ) : That they all might damned who believe not the Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." My brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus our Lord said He would send the comforter the Holy Ghost and He would be with us and in us, and lead us into all truth. If you have the love of the truth you will not be deceived by the false prophets, and many doctrines of religion and denominations out there. CHRIST IS NOT DIVIDED INTO RELIGION OR DENOMINATIONS. Those are babylonian churches. The Mother Harlot has many daughters, and she and her daughters persecuted Jesus and the apostles and handed them over to be Roman beast of that time. Rev 17:56; Rev 18:24, Matt 23; and history repeats itself again, it's going to happen to the church the body of Christ in the tribulation, if the church believes it or not. You ain't going to fly away, or be raptured up unless you die before the tribulation. The church of Christ Jesus will prevail and come out victoriously and give her life for the Master and Saviour Jesus Christ our Lord. Rev 6:9-11; Rev 13:7; Rev 12:11; and Rev 15:2; Rev 20:4,6
U should make your own app
They have an app!
@Christina6552 oh ok
When would the war mentioned in Ezekiel 38 possibly take place?
There is no difference.
The gathering to the Lord is one and the same . There is one gathering to the Lord .
Very true…Biblical…
No there isn’t. Did you listen; did you not hear? It’s quite obvious you have not read and studied; just took man’s words for granted. Shame on you!
@@jesusbeloved39532THESS 2:1. Now we beseech you, brethren , by the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ ( before Jesus Christ comes in the clouds of glory, His coming in His saints it's called the epiphanie a corporate body of the man - child ministry, the 2 witnesses to minister to the church in the tribulation Rev 12:5,6; 2Thess 1:10, Hos 6:1-3; psalm 149:5-9; Isa 60:1,2; Acts 2:16-21; Rev 10:9-11; to preach the everlasting gospel to all creation ), and by our gathering together unto Him ( we gather unto Jesus Christ not religion nor denominations or man ) 2. That ye be not soon shaken in mind ( that's your soul area ), or be troubled, neither by spirit (wrong revelation, doctrines of demons , religious spirits , anti-christ spirit 1Jn 4:1-6; 2Jn verse 7; 2Pet 2:1-3; 1Tim 4:1 ), nor by word ( what's being preached, or taught, Lk 8:15. Jesus told His disciples to be careful with the leaven of the pharisees those are the preacher's of today, and to be careful with the leaven of herod that's your government ), nor by letter ( books, magazine's ,tracks ), as from us, as that the day of the Lord is at hand. 3. Let no man ( preacher, pastor, teacher, false prophet ) deceive ( beguile, trick you, tickle your ear ) by any means: for that day shall not come ( the coming of the Lord ), Except there come a falling away first ( Apostasy defecting from the truth, a great rebellion. 1Tim4:1; 2Tim3:1-5; 2Pet 2:3; Jude 18; Jn 6:66=666) , and the man of sin ( inside of each of us is the man of sin it's called the old man ) be revealed the son of perdition ( Judas iscariot was called the son of perdition by Jesus in Jn 17:12; Jn 13:26,27 SOP means son of perdition or destruction ). 4.Who opposeth and exalteth himself ( we must not exalt Self, the old man, the carnal man, the earthly man, the devilish man, the beastly nature of man, psalms 73:22 King David said , So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee. We must deny Self, Matt 10:38,39; and die to Self the old man has to be crucified, the book of Roman's is the 6th book in the NT, chapter 6, and verse 6=666, the old man has to be crucified, so the born again, spiritual man, born from above. Christ in you the hope of glory rules your temple) above all that is called God, or is worshipped ( man likes to be worshipped, Self likes to be worshipped, false prophets, pastors, teachers, false apostles, Christian artists, even people in the secular world etc. Just like Lucifer Isa 14:13,14; Ezek 28:1-9; 2Tim 3:1-5; 2Cor 11-1-15 ); so he as God sitteth( look where he sitteth )in the temple of God ( we are the temple of God, God does not dwell in temples made with human hands, our spiritual man is the Holy of holies, the soul is the Holy place, the body is the outer court, Acts 17:24,25; 1Cor 3:16,17; ), shewing himself ( there's that word Self ) that he is God.5. Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things ( the apostle Paul always warned the church of Christ Jesus ) ? 6. And now ye know what withholdeth ( restraineth means to hold back ) that he ( the son of perdition ) might be revealed in his time ( let's go back to verse 3 and will see when the son of perdition will be revealed at the falling away first ).7. For the mystery of iniquity ( lawlessness ) doth already work ( it was already working in Paul's day ): only he ( the Holy Ghost ) who now letteth will let, until he ( the son of perdition ) be taken out of the way, or come out of the midst ( it's a corporate body of son of perdition in the temple of Christ spiritualy speaking, just as Judas iscariot was, the disciples didn't have a clue it was Judas iscariot until he betrayed Jesus Christ with a kiss, when he dip the Sop into the dish satan entered him, and history is going to repeat itself again, the sons of perdition are going to betray the brothers to death. Matt 24:9,10 ) 8. And then shall that Wicked be revealed ( in the NT, they are corporate bodies, Jesus has His body and that's the true church in means called out one's out of religious babylonian churches . Satan also has a body and it's all the children of disobedience among the people of God, the tares, and the goat's, they have a anti christ spirit ). Whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming.9. Even him ( it's a corporate body of false prophets, Jesus said many false prophets not prophet but many would come in His name. Many serve a different Jesus and a different gospel) whose coming is after the working of Satan ( that's his body the sons of perdition 2Cor 11:4,13-15; Gal 1:6-9 )with all power and signs (all kinds of deceptions, and counterfeit,) and lying wonders.( Jesus saidm if it were possible the elect could be deceived )10. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness( 1Jn 2:15-29; James 4:4 )in them ( the apostate people of God )that perish; because they received not the love of the Truth, ( the real true Gospel , they were spiritually blind to truth Isa 66:4), that they might be saved.11. And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion, ( listen now ) that they should believe a lie ( such as a pre- rapture , pre trib rapture, once saved always saved ) : That they all might damned who believe not the Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." My brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus our Lord said He would send the comforter the Holy Ghost and He would be with us and in us, and lead us into all truth. If you have the love of the truth you will not be deceived by the false prophets, and many doctrines of religion and denominations out there. CHRIST IS NOT DIVIDED INTO RELIGION OR DENOMINATIONS. Those are babylonian churches. The Mother Harlot has many daughters, and she and her daughters persecuted Jesus and the apostles and handed them over to be Roman beast of that time. Rev 17:56; Rev 18:24, Matt 23; and history repeats itself again, it's going to happen to the church the body of Christ in the tribulation, if the church believes it or not. You ain't going to fly away, or be raptured up unless you die before the tribulation. The church of Christ Jesus will prevail and come out victoriously and give her life for the Master and Saviour Jesus Christ our Lord. Rev 6:9-11; Rev 13:7; Rev 12:11; and Rev 15:2; Rev 20:4,6
I don't think it reads this way. Much deception coming to the earth through those who have not read carefully.. be not deceived a false message is among us.
Amazingly the first sign in Mathew chapter 24 of his 2nd coming is take heed that you are not decieved. God bless
@@ThomasDowdall-mh1es indeed, in acts 1 we are again assured Christ would return exactly as he left and we would see him, hearkening back to the Olivet discourse, immediately after the great tribulation
@ThomasDowdall-mh1es second thing is many shall come in my name. Funny how I just knew that from the abundance of my heart. Ive probably read it before hmm as to not be deceived.
The resurrection and the rapture happens at the second coming.
1. 1thess4: 13-17 Jesus comes in the clouds
2. Matt24: 29-31 Jesus comes in the clouds
3. Rev1:7 Jesus comes in the clouds!!
All same event posttrib!!
There's no difference. Theyre the same event. The bible doesnt teach the church being removed before the tribulation.
Or if you're not a dispensarional or pre millennialist, there is no rapture.
2THESS 2:1. Now we beseech you, brethren , by the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ ( before Jesus Christ comes in the clouds of glory, His coming in His saints it's called the epiphanie a corporate body of the man - child ministry, the 2 witnesses to minister to the church in the tribulation Rev 12:5,6; 2Thess 1:10, Hos 6:1-3; psalm 149:5-9; Isa 60:1,2; Acts 2:16-21; Rev 10:9-11; to preach the everlasting gospel to all creation ), and by our gathering together unto Him ( we gather unto Jesus Christ not religion nor denominations or man ) 2. That ye be not soon shaken in mind ( that's your soul area ), or be troubled, neither by spirit (wrong revelation, doctrines of demons , religious spirits , anti-christ spirit 1Jn 4:1-6; 2Jn verse 7; 2Pet 2:1-3; 1Tim 4:1 ), nor by word ( what's being preached, or taught, Lk 8:15. Jesus told His disciples to be careful with the leaven of the pharisees those are the preacher's of today, and to be careful with the leaven of herod that's your government ), nor by letter ( books, magazine's ,tracks ), as from us, as that the day of the Lord is at hand. 3. Let no man ( preacher, pastor, teacher, false prophet ) deceive ( beguile, trick you, tickle your ear ) by any means: for that day shall not come ( the coming of the Lord ), Except there come a falling away first ( Apostasy defecting from the truth, a great rebellion. 1Tim4:1; 2Tim3:1-5; 2Pet 2:3; Jude 18; Jn 6:66=666) , and the man of sin ( inside of each of us is the man of sin it's called the old man ) be revealed the son of perdition ( Judas iscariot was called the son of perdition by Jesus in Jn 17:12; Jn 13:26,27 SOP means son of perdition or destruction ). 4.Who opposeth and exalteth himself ( we must not exalt Self, the old man, the carnal man, the earthly man, the devilish man, the beastly nature of man, psalms 73:22 King David said , So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee. We must deny Self, Matt 10:38,39; and die to Self the old man has to be crucified, the book of Roman's is the 6th book in the NT, chapter 6, and verse 6=666, the old man has to be crucified, so the born again, spiritual man, born from above. Christ in you the hope of glory rules your temple) above all that is called God, or is worshipped ( man likes to be worshipped, Self likes to be worshipped, false prophets, pastors, teachers, false apostles, Christian artists, even people in the secular world etc. Just like Lucifer Isa 14:13,14; Ezek 28:1-9; 2Tim 3:1-5; 2Cor 11-1-15 ); so he as God sitteth( look where he sitteth )in the temple of God ( we are the temple of God, God does not dwell in temples made with human hands, our spiritual man is the Holy of holies, the soul is the Holy place, the body is the outer court, Acts 17:24,25; 1Cor 3:16,17; ), shewing himself ( there's that word Self ) that he is God.5. Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things ( the apostle Paul always warned the church of Christ Jesus ) ? 6. And now ye know what withholdeth ( restraineth means to hold back ) that he ( the son of perdition ) might be revealed in his time ( let's go back to verse 3 and will see when the son of perdition will be revealed at the falling away first ).7. For the mystery of iniquity ( lawlessness ) doth already work ( it was already working in Paul's day ): only he ( the Holy Ghost ) who now letteth will let, until he ( the son of perdition ) be taken out of the way, or come out of the midst ( it's a corporate body of son of perdition in the temple of Christ spiritualy speaking, just as Judas iscariot was, the disciples didn't have a clue it was Judas iscariot until he betrayed Jesus Christ with a kiss, when he dip the Sop into the dish satan entered him, and history is going to repeat itself again, the sons of perdition are going to betray the brothers to death. Matt 24:9,10 ) 8. And then shall that Wicked be revealed ( in the NT, they are corporate bodies, Jesus has His body and that's the true church in means called out one's out of religious babylonian churches . Satan also has a body and it's all the children of disobedience among the people of God, the tares, and the goat's, they have a anti christ spirit ). Whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming.9. Even him ( it's a corporate body of false prophets, Jesus said many false prophets not prophet but many would come in His name. Many serve a different Jesus and a different gospel) whose coming is after the working of Satan ( that's his body the sons of perdition 2Cor 11:4,13-15; Gal 1:6-9 )with all power and signs (all kinds of deceptions, and counterfeit,) and lying wonders.( Jesus saidm if it were possible the elect could be deceived )10. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness( 1Jn 2:15-29; James 4:4 )in them ( the apostate people of God )that perish; because they received not the love of the Truth, ( the real true Gospel , they were spiritually blind to truth Isa 66:4), that they might be saved.11. And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion, ( listen now ) that they should believe a lie ( such as a pre- rapture , pre trib rapture, once saved always saved ) : That they all might damned who believe not the Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." My brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus our Lord said He would send the comforter the Holy Ghost and He would be with us and in us, and lead us into all truth. If you have the love of the truth you will not be deceived by the false prophets, and many doctrines of religion and denominations out there. CHRIST IS NOT DIVIDED INTO RELIGION OR DENOMINATIONS. Those are babylonian churches. The Mother Harlot has many daughters, and she and her daughters persecuted Jesus and the apostles and handed them over to be Roman beast of that time. Rev 17:56; Rev 18:24, Matt 23; and history repeats itself again, it's going to happen to the church the body of Christ in the tribulation, if the church believes it or not. You ain't going to fly away, or be raptured up unless you die before the tribulation. The church of Christ Jesus will prevail and come out victoriously and give her life for the Master and Saviour Jesus Christ our Lord. Rev 6:9-11; Rev 13:7; Rev 12:11; and Rev 15:2; Rev 20:4,6
there still is, its just not pretrib
The Tribulation was local and in the past. "This generation" was "that " generation.
@@glenhowell6909 No rapture till the end, just the beginning of sorrows, Brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus, we all need to be overcomer's, we all need to run the race that is set before us that no man takes away our crown 👑, thing are going to intense more in the day to come. We need to keep our eyes on Christ Jesus, not in Egypt type of the world 🌎. God is bringing tribulation, His behind the beast system and is bringing in the mark of the beast to do a separation between His people, and the children of the devil. God is all Sovereign He wrote the book 📖. Satan is already defeated at the cross. All we need is to carry our cross and die to self and the World 🌎, We the body of Christ Jesus must be His witnesses to a dying generation, be the Light and the Salt of the earth, remember this that Christ Jesus is coming in His people Isaiah 60:1,2, before He comes for His people. You see Jesus never taught a pre rapture nor a pre trib rapture neither did the apostle's teach a pre rapture nor a pre trib rapture, the apostle said through many tribulations we shall enter the kingdom of heaven. They all a part of the Bride of Christ, they all suffered persecution from the Great Harlot and the daughter's and were killed by the Roman empire beast system of that day, and History is going to repeat itself again, for the Word of God says there is nothing new under the sun. So get Full of the Holy Ghost fill your lamp ( spiritual man )with oil 🪔 and your vessel ( that's your sou ) l with Holy Ghost oil 🪔, the church of Jesus Christ is going to shine one more time to this lost generation. The latter rain of the Holy Ghost is coming in His people, many are going to come into the kingdom of God in the tribulation, people that you thought didn't have hope are going to come to repentance through the Power of the Holy Ghost. But it comes with a price follow the Narrow road that lead's to life, Jesus said we must endure till the end. To the 7 churches. To be overcomer's just as He overcame. The Apostle Peter said that this false teachers have misinterpret Paul's epistles as they do others scripture's bringing themselves into their own destruction. The Bible says that he that teaches lies is part of the tail of the dragon Rev 12. So pre rapture, and pre trib rapture is a lie, and we are responsible for the blood of this people if we don't preach Truth, we must have the Love of the Truth. We must eat the whole Lamb 🐑 of God, it's head that's the mind of Christ, it's inward parts that's the whole Word, not pick and picking scripture that pleases the flesh. But eat everything that Christ Jesus taught. We must eat it's Legs, that's to walk as Jesus walked, partake of His suffering walking the Narrow road. And finish the course just as the apostle Paul said that there is a crown 👑 of righteousness waiting for him in that day, and which is that day it's at The Last Trump. The 1st resurrection and we which are alive shall be caught up to meet the Lord in the air, therefore comfort one another in Love. We are more than conquers through Christ Jesus our Lord. God bless.
This will hopefully be an eye opener for some.
Jesus and the disciples did not believe in the Pre-Trib, Mid Trib or Post Trib rapture for the believers. Jesus and the disciples thought that we would all be raised on the last day. So, the Day of Judgement. John 6:39-40 says, "And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that of everything that He has given Me I will lose nothing, but will raise it up on the last day. For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.” So, Jesus said that the believers will be raised up on the last day. Not before.
Then the same belief is mentioned again in John 11:21-27. It says, “Martha then said to Jesus, “Lord, if You had been here, my brother would not have died. Even now I know that whatever You ask of God, God will give You.” Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise from the dead.” Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.” Once again, the believers will be raised up on the last day and not before. So, we will go through the tribulation.
You may be asking, “When Christ returns and conquers the antichrist, who are those saints that return with him? Who are the ones that are raised up first?” This is explained in Rev 20:4-6. It says that it is the martyrs and only the martyrs. So, not every believer but those who are killed for the testimony of Jesus. No one else. These are the "dead in Christ" or "those that are asleep," as mentioned in 1Thes 4:13-18. They are raised to life and then return with Him to reign for 1000 years. Then after this, Satan is set free for a period, and then, at the very end, Christ will raise up all those that remain into the clouds to be judged. This raising will be for every believer and non-believer to judgement day (1Thes 4:15, "we who are alive and remain" will be raised at the end). Every person who is alive and also every dead person. This is also mentioned in 1 Cor 15:51-52, "Behold, I am telling you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.” So, at the last trumpet, which is the last day, we will all be raised up. The last day is the day of judgement where God judges everyone (Rev 20:11-15)
In Rev 11:15 it says that the last trumpet is when “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ; and He will reign forever and ever.” So, at the end of this age, at the last trumpet, everyone will be raised up into the clouds in the twinkling of an eye. That is all believers and non-believers. Both dead and alive, great and small.
Only, the martyrs are raptured up before and return with Christ.
Question? If It's Secret. Who Will Hear The Trumpet Sound?
Here are the people who will see the rapture that are left on earth. Notice they saw what happened. But you have to put other verses with this one to get the whole picture.
Rev 6
And the kings of the earth, the great men, [j]the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”
As you start adding verses the picture becomes clear.
Rev 1
Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen
Mat 24
Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
The most important thing for the pre tribbers is to make sure they have on their pre trib glasses. , That way they can try to make every verse fit the pre trib rapture.
Daniel 12 (explained)
Daniel 12:1 KJV
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for
the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never
was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy
people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
---- written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the Earth
Daniel 12:2 KJV
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to
everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
---- separating the “wheat from the tares,” the wheat being the SAINTS.
Daniel 12:3 KJV
And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they
that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
---- Stars are Angels
Daniel 12:4 KJV
But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of
the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
Daniel 12:5 KJV
Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side
of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.
Daniel 12:6 KJV
And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the
river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?
Daniel 12:7 KJV
And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river,
when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by
him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when
he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these
things shall be finished.
---- “it shall be for a time, times and a half” that is 3 1/2 years
“and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy
people”
Enoch 93:8 R.H. Charles 1917
And after that in the sixth week all who live in it shall be blinded,
And the hearts of all of them shall godlessly forsake wisdom.
---- “forsake wisdom” the C19 is the “strong delusion” it does NOT exist.
And they wear a “mask” (noisome grievous sore of Rev 16:2) and take
vaccines.
And in it a man shall ascend;
And at its close the house of dominion shall be burnt with fire,
And the whole race of the chosen root shall be dispersed.
---- “man shall ascend” is ANTICHRIST, King 6 & 8
---- “house of dominion” is Washington DC or “Spiritual Babylon”
---- “And the whole race of the chosen root shall be dispersed”
“chosen root” are Americans
Daniel 12:8 KJV
And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the
end of these things?
Daniel 12:9 KJV
And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till
the time of the end.
---- “sealed till the time of the end” the “end” is NOW.
The End Days Prophecies have all been revealed. The SIGN of JONAS
and the ABOMINATION of DESOLATON have not been fulfilled yet.
Daniel 12:10 KJV
Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do
wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall
understand.
Daniel 12:11 KJV
And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the
abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two
hundred and ninety days.
----- 1290 days
From the time C19 is taken away. This date is tricky and is why no one
knows exact date.
Daniel 12:12 KJV
Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five
and thirty days
- 1335 days
---- Apollyon and the False Prophet are taken, the destruction of
Babylon, and 1 st Resurrection (SEAL 5 of Rev 6)
Daniel 12:13 KJV
But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at
the end of the days
Malachi 4:5 KJV
Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and
dreadful day of the LORD:
---- Elijah and Enoch are the “two witnesses” and are HERE NOW.
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second coming is Biblical. Rapture is based off a misinterpretation of one text. When Jesus nothing will be secret, every eye shall see him.
I wonder wht the remaining population will go through after the rapture imagine ur life partner just vanishing n you left behind
2THESS 2:1. Now we beseech you, brethren , by the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ ( before Jesus Christ comes in the clouds of glory, His coming in His saints it's called the epiphanie a corporate body of the man - child ministry, the 2 witnesses to minister to the church in the tribulation Rev 12:5,6; 2Thess 1:10, Hos 6:1-3; psalm 149:5-9; Isa 60:1,2; Acts 2:16-21; Rev 10:9-11; to preach the everlasting gospel to all creation ), and by our gathering together unto Him ( we gather unto Jesus Christ not religion nor denominations or man ) 2. That ye be not soon shaken in mind ( that's your soul area ), or be troubled, neither by spirit (wrong revelation, doctrines of demons , religious spirits , anti-christ spirit 1Jn 4:1-6; 2Jn verse 7; 2Pet 2:1-3; 1Tim 4:1 ), nor by word ( what's being preached, or taught, Lk 8:15. Jesus told His disciples to be careful with the leaven of the pharisees those are the preacher's of today, and to be careful with the leaven of herod that's your government ), nor by letter ( books, magazine's ,tracks ), as from us, as that the day of the Lord is at hand. 3. Let no man ( preacher, pastor, teacher, false prophet ) deceive ( beguile, trick you, tickle your ear ) by any means: for that day shall not come ( the coming of the Lord ), Except there come a falling away first ( Apostasy defecting from the truth, a great rebellion. 1Tim4:1; 2Tim3:1-5; 2Pet 2:3; Jude 18; Jn 6:66=666) , and the man of sin ( inside of each of us is the man of sin it's called the old man ) be revealed the son of perdition ( Judas iscariot was called the son of perdition by Jesus in Jn 17:12; Jn 13:26,27 SOP means son of perdition or destruction ). 4.Who opposeth and exalteth himself ( we must not exalt Self, the old man, the carnal man, the earthly man, the devilish man, the beastly nature of man, psalms 73:22 King David said , So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee. We must deny Self, Matt 10:38,39; and die to Self the old man has to be crucified, the book of Roman's is the 6th book in the NT, chapter 6, and verse 6=666, the old man has to be crucified, so the born again, spiritual man, born from above. Christ in you the hope of glory rules your temple) above all that is called God, or is worshipped ( man likes to be worshipped, Self likes to be worshipped, false prophets, pastors, teachers, false apostles, Christian artists, even people in the secular world etc. Just like Lucifer Isa 14:13,14; Ezek 28:1-9; 2Tim 3:1-5; 2Cor 11-1-15 ); so he as God sitteth( look where he sitteth )in the temple of God ( we are the temple of God, God does not dwell in temples made with human hands, our spiritual man is the Holy of holies, the soul is the Holy place, the body is the outer court, Acts 17:24,25; 1Cor 3:16,17; ), shewing himself ( there's that word Self ) that he is God.5. Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things ( the apostle Paul always warned the church of Christ Jesus ) ? 6. And now ye know what withholdeth ( restraineth means to hold back ) that he ( the son of perdition ) might be revealed in his time ( let's go back to verse 3 and will see when the son of perdition will be revealed at the falling away first ).7. For the mystery of iniquity ( lawlessness ) doth already work ( it was already working in Paul's day ): only he ( the Holy Ghost ) who now letteth will let, until he ( the son of perdition ) be taken out of the way, or come out of the midst ( it's a corporate body of son of perdition in the temple of Christ spiritualy speaking, just as Judas iscariot was, the disciples didn't have a clue it was Judas iscariot until he betrayed Jesus Christ with a kiss, when he dip the Sop into the dish satan entered him, and history is going to repeat itself again, the sons of perdition are going to betray the brothers to death. Matt 24:9,10 ) 8. And then shall that Wicked be revealed ( in the NT, they are corporate bodies, Jesus has His body and that's the true church in means called out one's out of religious babylonian churches . Satan also has a body and it's all the children of disobedience among the people of God, the tares, and the goat's, they have a anti christ spirit ). Whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming.9. Even him ( it's a corporate body of false prophets, Jesus said many false prophets not prophet but many would come in His name. Many serve a different Jesus and a different gospel) whose coming is after the working of Satan ( that's his body the sons of perdition 2Cor 11:4,13-15; Gal 1:6-9 )with all power and signs (all kinds of deceptions, and counterfeit,) and lying wonders.( Jesus saidm if it were possible the elect could be deceived )10. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness( 1Jn 2:15-29; James 4:4 )in them ( the apostate people of God )that perish; because they received not the love of the Truth, ( the real true Gospel , they were spiritually blind to truth Isa 66:4), that they might be saved.11. And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion, ( listen now ) that they should believe a lie ( such as a pre- rapture , pre trib rapture, once saved always saved ) : That they all might damned who believe not the Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." My brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus our Lord said He would send the comforter the Holy Ghost and He would be with us and in us, and lead us into all truth. If you have the love of the truth you will not be deceived by the false prophets, and many doctrines of religion and denominations out there. CHRIST IS NOT DIVIDED INTO RELIGION OR DENOMINATIONS. Those are babylonian churches. The Mother Harlot has many daughters, and she and her daughters persecuted Jesus and the apostles and handed them over to be Roman beast of that time. Rev 17:56; Rev 18:24, Matt 23; and history repeats itself again, it's going to happen to the church the body of Christ in the tribulation, if the church believes it or not. You ain't going to fly away, or be raptured up unless you die before the tribulation. The church of Christ Jesus will prevail and come out victoriously and give her life for the Master and Saviour Jesus Christ our Lord. Rev 6:9-11; Rev 13:7; Rev 12:11; and Rev 15:2; Rev 20:4,6
The Second Coming is actually in the Bible?
God bless your love for our Lord and savour Jesus christ. In my opinion as Mathew 24 says after the tribulation of those days the angles will gather the ellect especially when history shows king Herald died 4bc. The 120th jubilee ends 2026-2027. The people in Judea had to head to the hills in 2023.The Greek word bow mean toxin or poison in English. God bless
Proof of A Pre trib Rapture. Pay Attention to the Cloud and Clouds Jesus appears IN and With. Act's chapter 1 verses 9 10 11 Cloud. In Red Luke chapter 21 verses 27 and 28 Jesus is coming IN A Cloud the Rapture. In Revelation chapter 1 verse 7 Jesus is coming With the Clouds when he comes back to the Mt of Olive the second coming KJV.
Nonsense, you don't understand Prophecy, sorry. We are nearing the midpoint in TRIB NOW.
Also, the word RAPTURE does not appear in any English Bible. We have a 1st Resurrection & a 2nd Death both covered in Rev 20.
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@ClintonBrownell Well if you believe Luke chapter 21 verses 27 and 28 are the same as Revelation chapter 1 verse 7. That's what you believe. I see it differently.
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Luke 21:27-28 KJV
And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
---- "for your redemption draweth NIGH"...NIGH is 3 1/2 years away until the 2nd Death.
(PROPHET)
Post-tribbers logic: rapture at the second coming . what’s the point of “that” logic? I don’t think they understand what the tribulation is. The tribulation will be the most catastrophic events ever to happen in the history of earth. Do you really think we will be going about business as usual: eating, drinking, marrying, at the end of the tribulation? Heck no!
Yes I am being married to Jesus Christ the spirit of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ is being married to my body for the second coming of Jesus Christ the wedding feast of the lamb the rapture the 7 year tribulation it started September 17TH 2021.
I think it started with covid seen as 3 and a half years later the people in Judea had to head to the hills. God bless
The rapture is to remove true believers so as not to have to go through the tribulation period.
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RAPTURE is NOT in any English Bible. It's a "poor" word to use when quoting from English Bibles.
The English Bible has the 1st Resurrection & 2nd Death both in Rev 20 RAPTURE is a "mason" agenda to cconfuse your discernment.. It means 1st Resurrection to SOME but 2nd Death to others,, HENCE CONFUSION.
Why not use the proper paragraphing from the English Bible when reading from an English Bible?
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The word Trinity isn't in the Bible either. Does that mean it doesn't exist?
@@sugarjones8047 RAPTURE is a word used to represent the 1st Resurrection or 2nd Death depending on your discernment of Scripture. The is NO 3RD event. Now if both these events are covered in the English Bible already, why are we requiring a 3rd WORD which isn''t even in the Bible to describe the event? There is NO REASON.
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YOU'RE WRONG and it seems like your preconceived ideas might be the source of your conflicts, leading you to think that the rapture is not the same as the second coming. However, consider 1 Thessalonians 4:14, which says: 'For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.'
Who are these that Jesus brings with Him? The truth is, the rapture and the second coming occur on the same day-on that day, God will bring with Him the spirits of those who have fallen asleep in Christ.
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More Scripture support.
Daniel 7:8 KJV
I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little
horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots:
and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth
speaking great things.
---- “three of the first horns plucked up by the roots” KINGS 1,2,3 Rev 17:10
Daniel 7:20 KJV
And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up,
and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that
spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
---- “before whom three fell” KINGS 1,2,3 Rev 17:10
----"whose look was more stout than his fellows" defines TRUMP
Daniel 7:24 KJV
And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and
another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he
shall subdue three kings.
---- “he shall subdue three kings” Bush (King 4), John McCain (King), John
Podesta (King). Remember TRUMP (Antichrist) killed BUSH, McCAIN, and "subdued" PODESTA within minutes after taking office..
Revelation 13:3 KJV
And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly
wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
--”one of his heads as it were wounded to death” King 1 (JFK)
NOTE: Daniel 7,8,11,12 deal with End Times, not Daniel 9 which deals with TIME of the FLOOD.
(Prophet)
(Watchman for the Last Generation)
2THESS 2:1. Now we beseech you, brethren , by the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ ( before Jesus Christ comes in the clouds of glory, His coming in His saints it's called the epiphanie a corporate body of the man - child ministry, the 2 witnesses to minister to the church in the tribulation Rev 12:5,6; 2Thess 1:10, Hos 6:1-3; psalm 149:5-9; Isa 60:1,2; Acts 2:16-21; Rev 10:9-11; to preach the everlasting gospel to all creation ), and by our gathering together unto Him ( we gather unto Jesus Christ not religion nor denominations or man ) 2. That ye be not soon shaken in mind ( that's your soul area ), or be troubled, neither by spirit (wrong revelation, doctrines of demons , religious spirits , anti-christ spirit 1Jn 4:1-6; 2Jn verse 7; 2Pet 2:1-3; 1Tim 4:1 ), nor by word ( what's being preached, or taught, Lk 8:15. Jesus told His disciples to be careful with the leaven of the pharisees those are the preacher's of today, and to be careful with the leaven of herod that's your government ), nor by letter ( books, magazine's ,tracks ), as from us, as that the day of the Lord is at hand. 3. Let no man ( preacher, pastor, teacher, false prophet ) deceive ( beguile, trick you, tickle your ear ) by any means: for that day shall not come ( the coming of the Lord ), Except there come a falling away first ( Apostasy defecting from the truth, a great rebellion. 1Tim4:1; 2Tim3:1-5; 2Pet 2:3; Jude 18; Jn 6:66=666) , and the man of sin ( inside of each of us is the man of sin it's called the old man ) be revealed the son of perdition ( Judas iscariot was called the son of perdition by Jesus in Jn 17:12; Jn 13:26,27 SOP means son of perdition or destruction ). 4.Who opposeth and exalteth himself ( we must not exalt Self, the old man, the carnal man, the earthly man, the devilish man, the beastly nature of man, psalms 73:22 King David said , So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee. We must deny Self, Matt 10:38,39; and die to Self the old man has to be crucified, the book of Roman's is the 6th book in the NT, chapter 6, and verse 6=666, the old man has to be crucified, so the born again, spiritual man, born from above. Christ in you the hope of glory rules your temple) above all that is called God, or is worshipped ( man likes to be worshipped, Self likes to be worshipped, false prophets, pastors, teachers, false apostles, Christian artists, even people in the secular world etc. Just like Lucifer Isa 14:13,14; Ezek 28:1-9; 2Tim 3:1-5; 2Cor 11-1-15 ); so he as God sitteth( look where he sitteth )in the temple of God ( we are the temple of God, God does not dwell in temples made with human hands, our spiritual man is the Holy of holies, the soul is the Holy place, the body is the outer court, Acts 17:24,25; 1Cor 3:16,17; ), shewing himself ( there's that word Self ) that he is God.5. Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things ( the apostle Paul always warned the church of Christ Jesus ) ? 6. And now ye know what withholdeth ( restraineth means to hold back ) that he ( the son of perdition ) might be revealed in his time ( let's go back to verse 3 and will see when the son of perdition will be revealed at the falling away first ).7. For the mystery of iniquity ( lawlessness ) doth already work ( it was already working in Paul's day ): only he ( the Holy Ghost ) who now letteth will let, until he ( the son of perdition ) be taken out of the way, or come out of the midst ( it's a corporate body of son of perdition in the temple of Christ spiritualy speaking, just as Judas iscariot was, the disciples didn't have a clue it was Judas iscariot until he betrayed Jesus Christ with a kiss, when he dip the Sop into the dish satan entered him, and history is going to repeat itself again, the sons of perdition are going to betray the brothers to death. Matt 24:9,10 ) 8. And then shall that Wicked be revealed ( in the NT, they are corporate bodies, Jesus has His body and that's the true church in means called out one's out of religious babylonian churches . Satan also has a body and it's all the children of disobedience among the people of God, the tares, and the goat's, they have a anti christ spirit ). Whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming.9. Even him ( it's a corporate body of false prophets, Jesus said many false prophets not prophet but many would come in His name. Many serve a different Jesus and a different gospel) whose coming is after the working of Satan ( that's his body the sons of perdition 2Cor 11:4,13-15; Gal 1:6-9 )with all power and signs (all kinds of deceptions, and counterfeit,) and lying wonders.( Jesus saidm if it were possible the elect could be deceived )10. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness( 1Jn 2:15-29; James 4:4 )in them ( the apostate people of God )that perish; because they received not the love of the Truth, ( the real true Gospel , they were spiritually blind to truth Isa 66:4), that they might be saved.11. And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion, ( listen now ) that they should believe a lie ( such as a pre- rapture , pre trib rapture, once saved always saved ) : That they all might damned who believe not the Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." My brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus our Lord said He would send the comforter the Holy Ghost and He would be with us and in us, and lead us into all truth. If you have the love of the truth you will not be deceived by the false prophets, and many doctrines of religion and denominations out there. CHRIST IS NOT DIVIDED INTO RELIGION OR DENOMINATIONS. Those are babylonian churches. The Mother Harlot has many daughters, and she and her daughters persecuted Jesus and the apostles and handed them over to be Roman beast of that time. Rev 17:56; Rev 18:24, Matt 23; and history repeats itself again, it's going to happen to the church the body of Christ in the tribulation, if the church believes it or not. You ain't going to fly away, or be raptured up unless you die before the tribulation. The church of Christ Jesus will prevail and come out victoriously and give her life for the Master and Saviour Jesus Christ our Lord. Rev 6:9-11; Rev 13:7; Rev 12:11; and Rev 15:2; Rev 20:4,6
@@eppiegallegos102 The "two witnesses" are ELIJAH & JOHN the Apostle. Two FLESH carry these two spirits TODAY. I am a TRUE PROPHET.
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@@ClintonBrownell It's s a corporate body of Christ Jesus in His people not Two men but a corporate body of born again born from above Jews and Gentiles. They have the spirit of Elijah and the spirit of Moses, just as the spirit of Elijah was in John the Baptist.
@@ClintonBrownell Trump is not the anti christ.
@@ClintonBrownell President Donald j Trump is a type of Cyrus bringing down the deep state Babylon.
Lepar Messiah
Nope. You are one of the end time deceivers. The tribulation is the wrath of Satan against the church, So your video is wrong.
Mat 24
“Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake.
The rapture is in the clouds. Every single time.
What I do not like about pretribulation: The tribulation starts with a covenant, not with the rapture. Pretribers do not distinguish this very well, essentially requiring the tribulation to start with the rapture since there cannot be much time between the rapture and the covenant to come for it to make any sense.
What I do not like about postibulation: All the believers are raptured at the end of the tribulation and all the unbelievers are put to death, leaving no one to populate the millenium.
What I do not like about the in between: The day, or much closer than a season, can be predicted once the covenant is given.
PLEASE STUDY!!!
@@fabbrofamily7038 Yes, and what I have gotten so far is every view has something that works and something that does not. Some of it is people try to fit things in where they do not belong. Many try to fit Gog and Magog into the tribulation while John mentions them at the end of the 1000 years, which is a time Israel would certainly be recovered from war. I have seen many try to speculate on when the Old Testament saints would be raised and most of those I have read do not refer to or explain Matthew 27:51-53. There are many who study the so called apocaliptic passages but look at little else in the Scriptures for other details or limits. Daniel's 70 weeks of years is built on Jeremiah's 70 years, which is built on the Law the Lord gave to Moses. Zerubbabel and Joshua the Priest were types of what was to come, and so were many others. So yes, study.
I can even show you where the rapture is in the book of revelation. But won't. So many false teachers on YT.
Exactly, the word RAPTURE does not exist in the English Bible. We have a 1st Resurrection & a 2nd Death both covered in Rev 20. RAPTURE is used by "mason" teachers to CONFUSE your discernment.
(PROPHET)
Probably because there is no such thing as a rapture. It is a man made fallacy, spun off the original which is the second coming of Christ. The only people who believe in a Rapture are ones who are full of fear surrounding the period of tribulations. There belief is absolutely just wanting to avoid tribulations. We don’t have to get them to change their minds. Reality will set in when they are still here for them. These are the people who will lose hope and their hearts fail because they did not prepare for the bridegroom and they have no oil in their lamps
There will be no 'rapture' JESUS will return on judgement day "THE GREAT AND TERRIBLE
DAY OF THE LORD"!
Ask yourself this question,if JESUS comes back and takes all the believers up to heaven,
Why would GOD ALMIGHTY permit the earth to go on if all that's left is the damned ???
To those left behind on Earth after the rapture I hope that if they resist evil till Jesus returns hope they can be saved.
No pre trib rapture. It is a lie. Not sure why you have never read the bible.
Mat 24
“Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake.
And by "resist evil" you mean put trust in Jesus Christ and don't take the Mark of the Beast. This will probably cause starvation or beheading or loss of life in some form. But once that is over...you will have eternal life with God!!!
@@sewingstoryprojects6178 I hope it's like in the bible Daniel and his comrades refused to bow to the gold statue of Nebuchadnezzar
Matthew 16:25
For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it.
There is NO difference in the RAPTURE, RESURRECTION, and second COMING. They are the exact same event. This is what Jesus taught. Mt13:30, Lu17:26-30, Jn5:28-29. Where does JESUS teach a TIME-PERIOD between this event in ANY of these verses???? In Lu 17:29 Jesus said the SAME DAY destroyed THEM ALL. What part of same day is hard to understand.
Incorrect. Revelation 20 explains the 1st Resurrection & the 2nd Death, they are NOT the SAME.
The 1st Resurrection JESUS comes to the clouds in the 2nd Death JESUS comes to the Earth.
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@@ClintonBrownell Let me guess, you just repeat what you were taught by MAN and not Gods word. You have clearly never studied what Jesus taught. But you THINK you understand revelation. Rev 20:5-6 The FIRST resurrection CANNOT be a physical resurrection. How do I KNOW this? Because it DOES NOT align with what JESUS taught. Jesus taught ONE resurrection. Mt3:30. Where is YOUR time-periods between this event? Lu 17:26-30 The SAME DAY destroyed THEM ALL. Will you CHANGE same day and ADD your time-periods to what Jesus taught? How about what Jesus taught in Jn6:39-40,44,54. He said he will RAISE (Resurrect) believers on the LAST DAY. The he said in Jn12:48 he would JUDGE the unbelievers on the LAST DAY. Everything Jesus taught was THE resurrection and THE DAY of judgement happen TOGETHER. Mt12:41-42. If you CANNOT understand what Jesus taught. (One resurrection) you will never understand prophecy.
@@markhauserbible7168 Your guess is wrong. My Prophecies come from the LORD.
I read ONLY BIBLE today, no books by MAN.
Believe as you like.
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@@ClintonBrownell This is how little you know about Gods word. You completely ignore what Jesus taught, that's why you did not address the scriptures I gave you. So, great teacher, if your prophecies are from the Lord. Then QUOTE just one verse where Jesus teaches YOUR so-called pre-trib rapture? Just one teacher.
@@markhauserbible7168 I don't address multiple inaccuracies each one. There is no such thing as a Pre Trib ANYTHING. We are nearing the midpoint in Tribulation NOW.
Either believe what I post or not, it's up to you. My PROPHECIES do come from the LORD, so I guess you're wrong on more than one issue.
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All this coming and going gives me a headache... Almost like Jesse Duplantis making various and a sundry round trip exploits to somewhere in the heavens he defines to be his destination location... The thousand (1K) millennial reign starts after the resurrection... Hang on tight Buckey: its gonna be a bumpy ride during the last 3 1/2 yrs (The Great) as the tribulation kicks off into full swing... Ain't Nobody gonna be confused when the bad dude with horns (as in the movies) starts his rule of terror and beheading... This is where you really get to put your neck on the line for JESUS our just give lip service as you are granted a one way boarding pass for a trip to the Lake of Fire...
No rapture till the end, just the beginning of sorrows, Brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus, we all need to be overcomer's, we all need to run the race that is set before us that no man takes away our crown 👑, thing are going to intense more in the day to come. We need to keep our eyes on Christ Jesus, not in Egypt type of the world 🌎. God is bringing tribulation, His behind the beast system and is bringing in the mark of the beast to do a separation between His people, and the children of the devil. God is all Sovereign He wrote the book 📖. Satan is already defeated at the cross. All we need is to carry our cross and die to self and the World 🌎, We the body of Christ Jesus must be His witnesses to a dying generation, be the Light and the Salt of the earth, remember this that Christ Jesus is coming in His people Isaiah 60:1,2, before He comes for His people. You see Jesus never taught a pre rapture nor a pre trib rapture neither did the apostle's teach a pre rapture nor a pre trib rapture, the apostle said through many tribulations we shall enter the kingdom of heaven. They all a part of the Bride of Christ, they all suffered persecution from the Great Harlot and the daughter's and were killed by the Roman empire beast system of that day, and History is going to repeat itself again, for the Word of God says there is nothing new under the sun. So get Full of the Holy Ghost fill your lamp ( spiritual man )with oil 🪔 and your vessel ( that's your sou ) l with Holy Ghost oil 🪔, the church of Jesus Christ is going to shine one more time to this lost generation. The latter rain of the Holy Ghost is coming in His people, many are going to come into the kingdom of God in the tribulation, people that you thought didn't have hope are going to come to repentance through the Power of the Holy Ghost. But it comes with a price follow the Narrow road that lead's to life, Jesus said we must endure till the end. To the 7 churches. To be overcomer's just as He overcame. The Apostle Peter said that this false teachers have misinterpret Paul's epistles as they do others scripture's bringing themselves into their own destruction. The Bible says that he that teaches lies is part of the tail of the dragon Rev 12. So pre rapture, and pre trib rapture is a lie, and we are responsible for the blood of this people if we don't preach Truth, we must have the Love of the Truth. We must eat the whole Lamb 🐑 of God, it's head that's the mind of Christ, it's inward parts that's the whole Word, not pick and picking scripture that pleases the flesh. But eat everything that Christ Jesus taught. We must eat it's Legs, that's to walk as Jesus walked, partake of His suffering walking the Narrow road. And finish the course just as the apostle Paul said that there is a crown 👑 of righteousness waiting for him in that day, and which is that day it's at The Last Trump. The 1st resurrection and we which are alive shall be caught up to meet the Lord in the air, therefore comfort one another in Love. We are more than conquers through Christ Jesus our Lord. God bless.
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