I can hit low D flat, and most people are somewhat impressed with that. But Tim Riley makes my voice sound like the Vienna Boys' Choir. He's unbelievable!!
Mr. Riley has always been my favorite bass singer. He might not have the lowest voice ever recorded, but his resonance is stellar. I've seen him live 3 times & he's a beast!
Very nice tribute. I saw Tim with Gold City live many times when I lived in Oklahoma. A very nice fella. I told him I always admired Richard Sterban's voice, but that his bass singing was the best I have heard. He said Richard was a friend of his.
you are right this a great video of a great singer and Tim and I are close personal friends. He is truly one of the finest bass singers ever!!!!...amen!
qwertyjuan... I'm now back to Tim Riley... Thanks for posting these clips bro, because I think many people will be surprised at what he CONSISTENTLY sang day after day with quality low notes...he's the man.
He's da bomb as the new folks would say. He does not use vocal fry. Vocal fry makes the words unintelligible. You can clearly understand every word he's singing. In my opinion, he is the best. No other bass gives such a rich tone for the rest of the group to build their sound on. Other bassists disappear into the sound but Tim is always there on his part blending his voice with theIrs for a rich full sound. Sumner was lower but could barely be heard when the perfume the group were singing. That's my reasoning for saying Tim is the best bass in Southern Gospel.
He sounds a bunch like Tim, and I was mistaken when I first purchased the cd...sounds like Tim, but that's not Tim on the picture! Gold City's always had similar sounding bass singers. That's why I love them! Thanks for posting the vid!
Love Tim Riley! Second only to George Younce (barely) But being a HUGE Cathedrals fan I am a little bias ;) Imagine how heaven will sound one day when he takes his seat beside George in the choir!
I want to hear Aaron singing more solos.... I've heard that he's a really, really good bass and from what clips I've heard it seems to certainly be the case. I look forward to the future with them.
The name of the song is "If God Be For Us (Who Can Be Against Us)". I'm not sure which album it was on, but I do know it was a late 80's early 90's song. I had a tape that had it ... I think it was the 10 year or 15 year celebration.
That is Jay Parrack himself finishing up one of his 'HIGH' notes... that is the end of the word 'away'.... from the song 'When he calls I'll fly away.'
I hear ya man. I have been listening to Gold City for about 10 years myself and have been an avid southern gospel fan for a long time. Tim's voice is unmistakable. As far as the CD; it is a full CD. They released this album twice. 1st it was released without the 2 songs that we discussed. This was the one I ordered from their website. Then after Bill joined, they needed a product with him and Christmas was approaching so the quickest thing to do was change the cover and add couple of songs.
Actually, On the Gold City Christmas album it is Tim. Gold City recorded in a Hotel Room at the quartet convention and it was released right before time came off the road. Even though Bill is in the picture its not him on the CD. Bill's first CD was "Heaven."
Tim Riley is the king of the G1.I've listened to many bass singers and no one compares to Tim Riley when it comes to the G1 unless there's a bass singer I haven't heard but I doubt it.
@Simangel1307 According to Genius Book of world recorders, JD was the man... He is also the person who gave Richard Sterban his start, he began singing with the Stamps as JD's back up before he joined the Oaks.
Not sure on the note(I am no professional when it comes to that regard) but it is from a song called "Have you been born again" from one of Gold City's older albums from the late '80's.... cannot remember the name right now because I don't have my portable HDD(with all my songs) with me. :)
He told me something similar. He said that his voice just kept going lower whereas most other guys' voices stop after a point.The common age where you first notice these basses get lower than normal is 14 based on what Tim told me as well as what I read about Richard Sterban and Aaron McCune. Tim said he was able to hit a C2 at age 14!
@snoopyflick Tim is actually a basso profundo, which means "deep bass". I actually got to talk to him the other day and he told me all about it. He also said that he only sings with his real voice (i.e. no vocal fry, only chest voice). True, it's nearly impossible to be really loud on the really low notes because of how much power it takes to get them as loud as higher notes, but these lower basses can actually get this low and still genuinely be singing the notes and not frying/growling them.
That's what it is... you must have like a promo CD or something. The one I have, my friend bought it for me last year at the NQC... I was listening to the CD on my iPod, and when I got to song #6 I was like, "What on earth happened here?" LOL... I told my friend and he couldn't belive that the FIRST time I listened to the CD that I picked that out. When I listen to the old Gold City stuff, I listen almost EXCLUSIVELY to Tim's singing... the music and the other guys are just background fillin :)
"Is THIS the 'Tim Riley' that once sang with the Dixie Echoes? If SO - My cousin played drums for them WHEN Tim was with them; 'I' also got to sing with them at about/arouns 13/14 years old!" LOL!
Tim is definitely one of the best . . . I grew up listening to GCQ, Kingsmen, etc. But my fave is the late George Younce with the Cathedrals . . .holy moses, you wanna talk deep, full and steady?! His best stuff is on the a capella CD they put out in the late 90's (Worship His Glory). And yep, JD Sumner was great, too. And don't forget Richard Sterban (the Oak Ridge Boys)!
I remember hearing Gold City's acappella album back in the early to mid 90's...I remember the bass singing the words..."OH...then the rest of the group was singing 'oh what a Savior'...I believe." At any rate, I was so impressed with that bass. Of course it was Tim Riley. I just remember him just flat out RIPPING low notes. I can't remember the song, but I DO remember him holding out the word "Sky" with the rest of the ensemble and thinking "My Gosh-that's sooooo strong!" Back in the day.
I know the title in Portuguese and in German, this hymn is in the Brazilian Adventist Hymnal. I think the title in English is A MIGHTY FORTRESS IS OUR GOD, it was written by Martin Luther, and the original title is Ein feste Burg int unser Gott.
EMT308 lol I sing bass in my church chior and I too sound like a high tenor or low soprano if you put me beside Tim he is just amazing!!! and a GREAT Christian also!
it's 'carol of the bells' from the 1997 christmas album... not sure of the name... they(gold city) actually made 3 of them.... one in the 80's, 90's and then again in 2006 I think it was.
I just figured it out my friend! I bought the CD while Tim was still with the group and "Silent Night" and "O Come All Ye Faithful" are not on my CD. I just went to iTunes and looked at the track listing for the one they were selling when Bill joined the group. They added those 2 tracks after he started traveling with them. I do agree with you though, there is no comparison between the two. Although Bill is a really good bass.
@TIGERSDFW Not a bit of vocal fry. Tim's voice actually goes down that low. Vocal fry has a distinct strained, throaty sound, like Tibetan Buddhist chant, or Kargyraa-style throat singing. As soon as you know that sound, you'll never mistake it for anything else.
I would, buuuuut I only have maybe 6 or 7 songs with him singing.... I have about 25 albums with Tim Riley, and about 250 songs. :( I'm sure there is someone out there that has more Oak Ridge Boys music than I do... sorry about that.
@KaimanaC I once heard someone say, "I'd rather live my life like there is a God and get to the end and find out there isn't one. This way, I haven't lost anything. However, if I live my life like there is no God and get to the end and find out there is one, I've lost all eternity." God bless.
@bassman3294 actually i need to apologize to you, because I missed a little thing: the song O Come Let Us Adore Him is the last part of a medley song called Christmas Medley, from their album called Voices Of Christmas (1988), once again, I'm sorry...
For a while he was retired from Gold City...Bill Lawrence took his place and then after that Aaron McCune was singing bass with them...now Aaron has left Gold City and Tim is back with them for a while!
On some of the songs, from GC's A Gold City Christmas album, that's not Tim, but Bill Lawrence, the bass from 2003-2006. They sound perfectly alike, and Bill was hand-picked by Tim.
ve heard Tim hit Eb's at sound check but chose not to in performance. Sterban and Youce has both hit those on recordings, but generally I think all three mostly stayed around G's or Ab's live instead of going lower live. Riley hit an F# on What A Glad Day on the recording, but didn't do it live on the Dove Awards performance I once saw.
My last post didn't quite look the way I wanted it to... one of the things I like about Ivan and you know he's the real deal is the fact that video where he hits F#1 twice...both times he sings a LOOOONG phrase before singing the F#1, and he does it on one breath! The note is there and strong both times-it sounds a little funny because of different language but the pitch is certainly there AND strong, so, yes, you're right about Ivan-he's awesome and right there with the best. Just my opinion.
I think Tim Riley is a really clear BASS singer and definitely top 3 all time. Reading all of these comments crack me up, all of you can hit these monster low notes-but none of you are in a SG Group or even close to being famous.
Could I get a list of all the songs in this? (Preferably in order) I usually don't like to buy music online, but I think I'll make an exception for Tim Riley!
@The336336336 Correction...The only well known bass singer who hardly ever does fry is Tim RILEY (aka the bass you hear in this video). It's not fry, he just has very crisp sounding notes (which is a good thing when your voice also has enough natural bass to it to shake apart a building).
does anyone know where i can get a recording of JUST this song?? i love acapella, especially when its in four part writing, and this is just amazing i love it, any advice would be greatly appreciated!!!
There are a few different techniques to sing below your usual range. I think not everyone who says "vocal fry" means the same thing...most gospel basses are using a special throat technique which makes the voice drop one octave down.
@@hypercubemaster2729 I meant subharmonics back then but I didn't know the name at that time. Today I'm pretty sure that Tim Riley only used his modal chest range without any technique
@@DonSchanteloni Hmm, well subharmonics is not really a throat technique. It is just achieved by allowing your voice to crack from backing off of the note while singing it. No throat technique is involved in subharmonics. That said, however, most gospel basses still don't use that technique. I myself am a Basso Cantante and can get down to a weak chest A1/Ab1 every day for an hour or more (maybe a chest G1/F#1 once or twice a week), keep a decent chest Bb1 almost all day, and B1/C2 are always in my chest range all day every day. Most Gospel Basses are slightly lower than my bottom, so anything within the range Tim Riley has sung I would say is mostly chest for them as well. You are correct about Tim Riley only using chest voice, though.
@@hypercubemaster2729 I agree. 13 years ago nobody was talking about subharmonics, I was able to do subharmonics myself (also kargyraa) but I didn't know how to call this technique so I just assumed it was some sort of throat technique as well. Your lower vocal range sounds awesome :)
@@DonSchanteloni I completely understand the confusion there, because as you said, back then it wasn't a highly discussed technique. I rarely play with subharmonics now due to the fact that I can sing low enough without them, and even on the notes I can't reach everyday like G1 and below, I kind of view it as cheating the note. It has a cool sound, though. Thanks! I wish I were a Basso Profundo Oktavist to be honest, but I am very happy to have the lows I do now, as I just gained in the last year from a very weak C2 morning voice bottom being my absolute lowest everyday note, down to about Ab1 now. My bottom speaking notes commonly are around the C2-F2 range now as well. My new goal is a weak E1/decent G1 everyday, but being as I am now 37, I'm not sure I will get there until I'm old and creepy, lol. What's your current age and bottom everyday notes? If you arent yet mid to late 30s, your voice will probably drop down again like mine did when you get there! 😀
Gospel music is not or should I say should not be about who's higher or who's lower. One thing to keep in mind is that Gold City has always sang in higher keys because of the tenors they have had through the group. Just listen to these clips. Gold City is my all time favorite group. JD set the standard...plain and simple but everyone has their own style. Sit back and enjoy them all!!!
Sterban HAS hit G's live & on cd's & E's and Eb's on cd's. Not sure about live. He hit the Eb on one of the FTC Specials, but may be an overdub. He told me he couldn't sing that all of the time & had to come up with an alternate way of singing it. That's not to say he can't hit it sometimes live, but I'd say nearly no one can hit notes on either of their extremes night after night, day after day, time after time. Some days are better than others. Even J.D. didn't always have his double low C.
I have a few songs from their new album, Moment of Truth, and Aaron sings quite powerfully on that album. His vocals have matured so much since Revival. It's incredible. Definitely the best replacement for Tim Riley. God's under control.
He uses his microphone a bit to increase the volume. In his live videos he moves really close to the mic. But that's not very much. He is a great singer :)
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I can hit low D flat, and most people are somewhat impressed with that. But Tim Riley makes my voice sound like the Vienna Boys' Choir. He's unbelievable!!
What's your lowest comfortable/uncomfortable note now?
I like the bass singer.I learned from him slot.GOD bless him abundance of Grace.
Mr. Riley has always been my favorite bass singer. He might not have the lowest voice ever recorded, but his resonance is stellar. I've seen him live 3 times & he's a beast!
Very nice tribute. I saw Tim with Gold City live many times when I lived in Oklahoma. A very nice fella. I told him I always admired Richard Sterban's voice, but that his bass singing was the best I have heard. He said Richard was a friend of his.
you are right this a great video of a great singer and Tim and I are close personal friends. He is truly one of the finest bass singers ever!!!!...amen!
I'm known for being one of the deepest bassists, I'm glad to find someone like this to learn what a bass should sound like.
No doubt, one of the best!
Great singing Tim!!!!
qwertyjuan...
I'm now back to Tim Riley...
Thanks for posting these clips bro, because I think many people will be surprised at what he CONSISTENTLY sang day after day with quality low notes...he's the man.
Dude can hit a G1 in stride, he has a smooth strong tone, AND his pitch is dead on. He's the real deal.
He's da bomb as the new folks would say.
He does not use vocal fry.
Vocal fry makes the words unintelligible. You can clearly understand every word he's singing.
In my opinion, he is the best.
No other bass gives such a rich tone for the rest of the group to build their sound on.
Other bassists disappear into the sound but Tim is always there on his part blending his voice with theIrs for a rich full sound.
Sumner was lower but could barely be heard when the perfume the group were singing.
That's my reasoning for saying
Tim is the best bass in Southern Gospel.
this is great.. i've been lookin all over youtube for a video like this!
Is one of the Best!!!! and i've been able to hit sum of his notes....Luv u Tim Riely!!!!!
This man can really get down. Love listening to him.
He's good. I love it when he is singing.
Tim is honestly, truly getting even better with age!!!
Lord, please give me Tim Riley's singing voice in Heaven!
You are a good person for pointing that out, so true.
Vocal cords of steel! Best bass singer ever!
He sounds a bunch like Tim, and I was mistaken when I first purchased the cd...sounds like Tim, but that's not Tim on the picture! Gold City's always had similar sounding bass singers. That's why I love them! Thanks for posting the vid!
Wow, he can hit the really low notes and it isn't distorted like some bass singers.
Love Tim Riley! Second only to George Younce (barely) But being a HUGE Cathedrals fan I am a little bias ;) Imagine how heaven will sound one day when he takes his seat beside George in the choir!
Tim is much better than Younce! Tim is King...no comparison...
Oh BTW Tim is one of the greatest bass singers ever and exercises his God given talent by singing praise to his name!!!!
Wow - this man is like a human tuba.
I want to hear Aaron singing more solos....
I've heard that he's a really, really good bass and from what clips I've heard it seems to certainly be the case.
I look forward to the future with them.
Listen to that Tenor! OMG! Awesome!
how can you not like this guy. 18 dislikes need to get a life. i love this guy
It Hertz my ears @ 8, the throbbing voice of Tim Riley ladies and gentlemen.
The name of the song is "If God Be For Us (Who Can Be Against Us)". I'm not sure which album it was on, but I do know it was a late 80's early 90's song. I had a tape that had it ... I think it was the 10 year or 15 year celebration.
That is Jay Parrack himself finishing up one of his 'HIGH' notes... that is the end of the word 'away'.... from the song 'When he calls I'll fly away.'
Look for my two videos with him with the Southmen Quartet from March 21. He's still got it.
I hear ya man. I have been listening to Gold City for about 10 years myself and have been an avid southern gospel fan for a long time. Tim's voice is unmistakable.
As far as the CD; it is a full CD. They released this album twice. 1st it was released without the 2 songs that we discussed. This was the one I ordered from their website. Then after Bill joined, they needed a product with him and Christmas was approaching so the quickest thing to do was change the cover and add couple of songs.
wow.....that's amazing
Could someone list all the songs in this video? (preferably in order?) Thanks! This guy is great, and I want to hear the songs in full.
i love how clear his voice is. especially when the note is on the letter A.
Actually, On the Gold City Christmas album it is Tim. Gold City recorded in a Hotel Room at the quartet convention and it was released right before time came off the road. Even though Bill is in the picture its not him on the CD. Bill's first CD was "Heaven."
IM NOT GIVING UP IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE
@Backspeacer the song is gods building a church by GOLD CITY....frickn awesome song
Tim Riley is the king of the G1.I've listened to many bass singers and no one compares to Tim Riley when it comes to the G1 unless there's a bass singer I haven't heard but I doubt it.
+ghfreakmachine dont forget tim torms
Glenn Miller. Vlad Miller..Zlatopolsky. Even without microphones, they crush Tim.
amen, brother!
@Simangel1307 According to Genius Book of world recorders, JD was the man... He is also the person who gave Richard Sterban his start, he began singing with the Stamps as JD's back up before he joined the Oaks.
Not sure on the note(I am no professional when it comes to that regard) but it is from a song called "Have you been born again" from one of Gold City's older albums from the late '80's.... cannot remember the name right now because I don't have my portable HDD(with all my songs) with me. :)
1:44 - 2:00 (Ring Christmas Bells) sent chills up my spine. Almost disturbing hearing a bass voice that low in a minor key!! 5 stars!!
Daaaang! Not only is there incredible Bass in this video, but listen to that Tenor!!
wow, that carol of the bells part is so cool.
i agree with you partially. in my school, it depended on the class and teacher.
love that deep voice praise god
He told me something similar. He said that his voice just kept going lower whereas most other guys' voices stop after a point.The common age where you first notice these basses get lower than normal is 14 based on what Tim told me as well as what I read about Richard Sterban and Aaron McCune. Tim said he was able to hit a C2 at age 14!
@snoopyflick Tim is actually a basso profundo, which means "deep bass". I actually got to talk to him the other day and he told me all about it. He also said that he only sings with his real voice (i.e. no vocal fry, only chest voice). True, it's nearly impossible to be really loud on the really low notes because of how much power it takes to get them as loud as higher notes, but these lower basses can actually get this low and still genuinely be singing the notes and not frying/growling them.
The same group he sang with for 25 years... Gold City! :)
That's what it is... you must have like a promo CD or something. The one I have, my friend bought it for me last year at the NQC... I was listening to the CD on my iPod, and when I got to song #6 I was like, "What on earth happened here?" LOL... I told my friend and he couldn't belive that the FIRST time I listened to the CD that I picked that out. When I listen to the old Gold City stuff, I listen almost EXCLUSIVELY to Tim's singing... the music and the other guys are just background fillin :)
Incrivel...!!!!!
"Is THIS the 'Tim Riley' that once sang with the Dixie Echoes? If SO - My cousin played drums for them WHEN Tim was with them; 'I' also got to sing with them at about/arouns 13/14 years old!" LOL!
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very nice compilation qwertyjuan... tks for sharing
Jowox, you've been looking for a Tim Riley F? Check out 'I'm Saved' on GC's Camp Meetin' album. At the end Tim slides down to a very solid F1.
Tim is definitely one of the best . . . I grew up listening to GCQ, Kingsmen, etc. But my fave is the late George Younce with the Cathedrals . . .holy moses, you wanna talk deep, full and steady?! His best stuff is on the a capella CD they put out in the late 90's (Worship His Glory). And yep, JD Sumner was great, too. And don't forget Richard Sterban (the Oak Ridge Boys)!
I remember hearing Gold City's acappella album back in the early to mid 90's...I remember the bass singing the words..."OH...then the rest of the group was singing 'oh what a Savior'...I believe."
At any rate, I was so impressed with that bass. Of course it was Tim Riley. I just remember him just flat out RIPPING low notes. I can't remember the song, but I DO remember him holding out the word "Sky" with the rest of the ensemble and thinking "My Gosh-that's sooooo strong!" Back in the day.
I know the title in Portuguese and in German, this hymn is in the Brazilian Adventist Hymnal. I think the title in English is A MIGHTY FORTRESS IS OUR GOD, it was written by Martin Luther, and the original title is Ein feste Burg int unser Gott.
Actually, 'How Deep is the Water' from the '10 Year Celebration' album, has a good representation of his range. You may want to check that out.
@bonz01 its also in Ab.. my favorite key!
IMO, Tim sounds incredible Acapella as well, so I somewhat agree with you there.
EMT308 lol I sing bass in my church chior and I too sound like a high tenor or low soprano if you put me beside Tim he is just amazing!!! and a GREAT Christian also!
it's 'carol of the bells' from the 1997 christmas album... not sure of the name... they(gold city) actually made 3 of them.... one in the 80's, 90's and then again in 2006 I think it was.
Almost 500,000! HOOOOOOLDDDDDDDDDD INNNNNNNNNNN ONNNNNN NAIL SCARED HAND.
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bases i know can't hit this low even if they breathe in! it's CRAZY!
Then they're not real basses. Ingressive phonation can easily take a bass singer below the bottom of the piano.
I just figured it out my friend! I bought the CD while Tim was still with the group and "Silent Night" and "O Come All Ye Faithful" are not on my CD. I just went to iTunes and looked at the track listing for the one they were selling when Bill joined the group. They added those 2 tracks after he started traveling with them.
I do agree with you though, there is no comparison between the two. Although Bill is a really good bass.
holy hell... thats amazing
@TIGERSDFW Not a bit of vocal fry. Tim's voice actually goes down that low. Vocal fry has a distinct strained, throaty sound, like Tibetan Buddhist chant, or Kargyraa-style throat singing. As soon as you know that sound, you'll never mistake it for anything else.
I would, buuuuut I only have maybe 6 or 7 songs with him singing.... I have about 25 albums with Tim Riley, and about 250 songs. :( I'm sure there is someone out there that has more Oak Ridge Boys music than I do... sorry about that.
@KaimanaC I once heard someone say, "I'd rather live my life like there is a God and get to the end and find out there isn't one. This way, I haven't lost anything. However, if I live my life like there is no God and get to the end and find out there is one, I've lost all eternity."
God bless.
if you want to know his rang it is called Contra-bass rang similar to a contra-bass(stand up bass)
I'm sooo jealous of this guy.
@bassman3294 actually i need to apologize to you, because I missed a little thing: the song O Come Let Us Adore Him is the last part of a medley song called Christmas Medley, from their album called Voices Of Christmas (1988), once again, I'm sorry...
For a while he was retired from Gold City...Bill Lawrence took his place and then after that Aaron McCune was singing bass with them...now Aaron has left Gold City and Tim is back with them for a while!
On some of the songs, from GC's A Gold City Christmas album, that's not Tim, but Bill Lawrence, the bass from 2003-2006. They sound perfectly alike, and Bill was hand-picked by Tim.
@WTFisJamieUp2
Thanks a bunch!
ve heard Tim hit Eb's at sound check but chose not to in performance. Sterban and Youce has both hit those on recordings, but generally I think all three mostly stayed around G's or Ab's live instead of going lower live. Riley hit an F# on What A Glad Day on the recording, but didn't do it live on the Dove Awards performance I once saw.
I actually like Sterban VERY well.... he would DEFINATELY be in my top 5! Good choice guys.
@Aaggonet It's the Carole of the Bells.
My last post didn't quite look the way I wanted it to...
one of the things I like about Ivan and you know he's the real deal is the fact that video where he hits F#1 twice...both times he sings a LOOOONG phrase before singing the F#1, and he does it on one breath! The note is there and strong both times-it sounds a little funny because of different language but the pitch is certainly there AND strong, so, yes, you're right about Ivan-he's awesome and right there with the best. Just my opinion.
I think Tim Riley is a really clear BASS singer and definitely top 3 all time. Reading all of these comments crack me up, all of you can hit these monster low notes-but none of you are in a SG Group or even close to being famous.
So was I, that's why I made it. Glad you like it.
Could I get a list of all the songs in this? (Preferably in order) I usually don't like to buy music online, but I think I'll make an exception for Tim Riley!
I am still waiting for your explanation of the second law!
I wanna sing just like him
@The336336336 Correction...The only well known bass singer who hardly ever does fry is Tim RILEY (aka the bass you hear in this video). It's not fry, he just has very crisp sounding notes (which is a good thing when your voice also has enough natural bass to it to shake apart a building).
@bobby63933 JD's Guiness Book record was broken over 20 years ago and has been reset several times since then.
Check out the bass singers in a Russian orthodox choir too! Amazing.....
does anyone know where i can get a recording of JUST this song?? i love acapella, especially when its in four part writing, and this is just amazing i love it, any advice would be greatly appreciated!!!
There are a few different techniques to sing below your usual range. I think not everyone who says "vocal fry" means the same thing...most gospel basses are using a special throat technique which makes the voice drop one octave down.
No, they're not using kargyraa. Some use subharmonics, but not most of them.
@@hypercubemaster2729 I meant subharmonics back then but I didn't know the name at that time. Today I'm pretty sure that Tim Riley only used his modal chest range without any technique
@@DonSchanteloni Hmm, well subharmonics is not really a throat technique. It is just achieved by allowing your voice to crack from backing off of the note while singing it. No throat technique is involved in subharmonics. That said, however, most gospel basses still don't use that technique. I myself am a Basso Cantante and can get down to a weak chest A1/Ab1 every day for an hour or more (maybe a chest G1/F#1 once or twice a week), keep a decent chest Bb1 almost all day, and B1/C2 are always in my chest range all day every day. Most Gospel Basses are slightly lower than my bottom, so anything within the range Tim Riley has sung I would say is mostly chest for them as well. You are correct about Tim Riley only using chest voice, though.
@@hypercubemaster2729 I agree. 13 years ago nobody was talking about subharmonics, I was able to do subharmonics myself (also kargyraa) but I didn't know how to call this technique so I just assumed it was some sort of throat technique as well. Your lower vocal range sounds awesome :)
@@DonSchanteloni I completely understand the confusion there, because as you said, back then it wasn't a highly discussed technique. I rarely play with subharmonics now due to the fact that I can sing low enough without them, and even on the notes I can't reach everyday like G1 and below, I kind of view it as cheating the note. It has a cool sound, though.
Thanks! I wish I were a Basso Profundo Oktavist to be honest, but I am very happy to have the lows I do now, as I just gained in the last year from a very weak C2 morning voice bottom being my absolute lowest everyday note, down to about Ab1 now. My bottom speaking notes commonly are around the C2-F2 range now as well. My new goal is a weak E1/decent G1 everyday, but being as I am now 37, I'm not sure I will get there until I'm old and creepy, lol.
What's your current age and bottom everyday notes? If you arent yet mid to late 30s, your voice will probably drop down again like mine did when you get there! 😀
He his a Lion, the man Tim Riley.
Maybe Guiness that was published in the 1980's.... he hasn't held the title for MANY years. He's been passed twice.
Thank you for that info. However I use a completely fifferent technique.
GOD ALMIGHTY!
Gospel music is not or should I say should not be about who's higher or who's lower. One thing to keep in mind is that Gold City has always sang in higher keys because of the tenors they have had through the group. Just listen to these clips. Gold City is my all time favorite group. JD set the standard...plain and simple but everyone has their own style. Sit back and enjoy them all!!!
That's why this series of clips is called "Tim Riley - Best Bass Singer Ever" and NOT "Tim Riley - Lowest Voiced Person Ever"
Sterban HAS hit G's live & on cd's & E's and Eb's on cd's. Not sure about live. He hit the Eb on one of the FTC Specials, but may be an overdub. He told me he couldn't sing that all of the time & had to come up with an alternate way of singing it. That's not to say he can't hit it sometimes live, but I'd say nearly no one can hit notes on either of their extremes night after night, day after day, time after time. Some days are better than others. Even J.D. didn't always have his double low C.
I have a few songs from their new album, Moment of Truth, and Aaron sings quite powerfully on that album. His vocals have matured so much since Revival. It's incredible. Definitely the best replacement for Tim Riley. God's under control.
He uses his microphone a bit to increase the volume. In his live videos he moves really close to the mic. But that's not very much. He is a great singer :)