🇸🇪 Sweden's Surprisingly Private (and Free) Education

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Комментарии • 139

  • @MrDadyD
    @MrDadyD Год назад +32

    Let me tell you as Swed that grew up, attended and then (for a 1 year) worked as a teacher in the new school system. It was completely worthless; reading comprehension went down, math skills went down... only thing that went up was profits for private firms. Between 2012 and 2013 I worked for a private high school consortium. Once the number of students went down (due to demographics and trends) they simply closed the schools leaving 4000 teachers without a job and 20-30000 student without a school (leaving the regular municipality school to pickup the pieces, and the state to pickup the bill for unpaid salaries).
    Lets also dispell the notion that these school are leading to better grades and knowledge. A lot of these so-called schools have been shown (again and again) to give higher grades then the students are actually deserving (so called glädjebetyg in Swedish). Lets not also forget the fact that they actually have fewer teachers with pedagogy degrees.
    Since they didnt bother doing any research for this piece I can recommend starting with:
    - SNS Analys 88. Resultat och betygsättning i gymnasiefriskolor by Karin Edmark and Lovisa Persson.
    - Privatizing Welfare Services. Lessons from the Swedish Experiment (oxford press, 2021) by Henrik Jordahl och Mårten Blix
    - Academedias school consortium has been shown to inflate grades year after year, see Friskolor som Academedia pressar lärare att sätta glädjebetyg (2022, Dec 7, Ekblom & Drougge, Arbetet.se)
    etc etc etc

    • @Kaede-Sasaki
      @Kaede-Sasaki Месяц назад

      What are your thoughts on the education system in japan? It has a similar system, I believe.

    • @MrDadyD
      @MrDadyD Месяц назад +1

      @@Kaede-Sasaki I dont really know the ins and outs of the Japanese system, so I wont be able to provide you with a comphrensive answer.
      What I do admire, and think should be emulated is their system of classroom duties (Toban Katsudo). To many student in western countries do not appreciate how lucky they are growing up in a rich society that offer food, spaces and a free education.
      Another thing would be japanese math education (this can probably be extent to singapore, south korea etc) in primary and lower secondary school. The use of a simple abacus (soroban) and the system of using lines for visual reprenentation should be adopted for atleast the first 3 years in school.

  • @rusty5004
    @rusty5004 Год назад +60

    The system is interesting but there are two significant issues in the Swedish implementation not mentioned in this video.
    The system for setting the value of the vouchers is based on the average cost per student for public schools in the same area, but costs for a public school are not very elastic. This means areas with a growing private school sector see massively rising costs as these new private schools get more and more money per student for every student they pry away from the public schools.
    There is no mandatory independent grade system. This means the private schools have a financial interest in giving their students a high grade, and especially making sure everyone has a passing grade. There is a significant statistical difference in university performance for equal-graded students from public and private schools. Students and parents of course don't mind, since they get into good universities.

    • @MrMidjji
      @MrMidjji Год назад +1

      There are two independent grade systems, a test you can do to raise, but not lower your core subject grades, which most schools do, and another more like the lsat, but its opt in by the student.

  • @RichFlemingRealtor
    @RichFlemingRealtor Год назад +10

    The challenge with vouchers is that it encourages non-public schools to cherrypick their students while leaving the students with the greatest needs/challenges to be addressed by public schools. Another potential problem is private schools using the vouchers to subsidize the cost, but still being too expensive for many families. More results incentives must be included in public schools (not just standardized test results) to encourage improvement, but vouchers aren't a simple solution.

  • @mattiaspaulrud
    @mattiaspaulrud Год назад +16

    @VisualEconomics EN As a Swede who did all 15 years of free Education in Sweden incl 3 years of College University Studies. The quality and standard is also set by yourself (the students) and by Society itself by raising the standard and quality and demand High standard and high quality on all students incl yourself. Teachers are also demanded to deliver high quality education. Raising the standard on yourself means that WE US in the society also demand and expect everybody else in the Swedish society demand that all others in the society to do the same. I personally did 12 years of free Education and 3 years of furthers studies in College University. 15 years of education Incl, College and university studies. All for free.

    • @BS-vm5bt
      @BS-vm5bt Год назад

      Vi hade det finska skol systemet innan och vi ser redan nu vilket land som får bättre resultat. Vi har testat det privata systemet och det har i praktiken försärmat skol kvaliten så jag anser det som ett mislyckande. Om det var ett lyckad experiment så skulle vi ha bättre utbildnings resultat än finland vilket vi klart och tydligt ej har. Ignorera praktiska resultat är något som våra politiker har blivigt experter på.

    • @mattiaspaulrud
      @mattiaspaulrud Год назад

      @@BS-vm5bt Jag vill också nämna att olika kommuner levererar olika resultat i skolsystemet i sin helhet pga olika sociala och ekonomiska skillnader, vilket inkluderar också problematiska kommuner med högre mängd av kriminalitet som påverkar alla i den kommunen i alla åldrar. När det gäller privata skolor kan man se enorm stor skillnad pga ex: Tillgänglighet, exklusivitet och så kallade alternativa studier som lärs ut i vissa privata skolor, som i sig inte riktigt fungerar i moderna samhället. Valldrofs skolor tex tog bort vissa standard studier och lade till alternativa studier och lärosätt såsom vi hade förr i tiden. En dokumentärserie kom upp om Valdorf skolorna. Hur jag visste detta i förväg innan dokumentärerna släpptes är pga min egen sister valde att gå I en valdorfskola och skillnaden mellan Hennes resultat och resten av familj och släkt var enorm! Sista punkt här; Sverige har tagit in invandrare systematiskt sedan andra världskriget som lägger stor stress på skolsystemet. Sverige över 10 miljoner invånare. Norge ca 5, Finland ca 5 och Danmark ca 5. Jag har jobbat med att ta hand om barn och ungdom sedan 1997 och gick högskoleutbildning inom det fältet av arbete, samhelle, historia, ekonomi, politik och ledarskap.

    • @mattiaspaulrud
      @mattiaspaulrud Год назад

      Förlåt för mina felstavningar. Jag skrev detta mitt i natten och orkade inte att korrigera det jag skrev. Jag hoppas att du förstår.

  • @old_man_with_hat
    @old_man_with_hat Год назад +8

    I am German, live in Sweden since 2005, two kids in school and married to a teacher.
    My experience is that the overall quality of the Swedish school system deteriorates drastically. Teachers are jumping jobs between public and friskola as this is the fastest way to increase salary. The level of "behörig" teachers (properly educated for a subject) has declined to 80%.
    Teachers have to appease entitled pupils and parents in oder to "sell in" their school.
    Segregation has increased as it is much easier to switch school (and for the schools to select certain pupils), schools in "vulnerable areas" have huge problems.
    Not a fan.

  • @Hfil66
    @Hfil66 Год назад +33

    One question I would have with regard to comparing private schools to public schools is to what extent the private schools can cherry pick their pupils in order to avoid taking on high-cost students that may absorb a lot of money while providing less ideal academic outcomes, leaving the public sector with all the difficult and expensive students?

    • @apollo2276
      @apollo2276 Год назад

      Lets be honest here.
      The education system isn't anything to do with educating the masses, its creation was not for that purpose. It is when you start looking a bit closer, an indoctrination system, to produce dumbed down work slaves. 2 very different things in my opinion. If you want true world knowledge/educating in this life, go & spend a few years with the first nations people.
      The very few who know the truth of everything.
      If people spent more time following the science we are seeing being presented today with our advanced technologies, instead of brainwashing themselves with mainstream news, people would see for themselves that what they are teaching our kids in schools globally is outdated information and the majority of it - is misinformation or crap most young minds have no interest in. They don't want clever people in our world who can think for themselves. These may challenge the hierarchy. They want dumbed down tax payers who never question anything they are told and simply comply. It's far more profitable for them. And that is exactly what the system they put together with a purpose creates.
      The system was put in place over 100 years ago by a banking family. Funny really because money is something the education system fails to incorporate into their so called curriculums preparing our younger generations for the world ahead of them.
      In fact if anything their priority is to program innocent minds with anything but what they need in life including the truths of who we are, where we come from or any truths about the real' world we all live in.
      In 2022 they are still telling kids we live in a physical world. I'm sorry but the atom is 99.9% empty space. As Tesla and many more before him and since proved, everything is energy, frequency & vibration. They are not teaching this in schools? Another example - Todays advanced technologies show the science/evidence that the Egyptians 'did not' build the pyramids, yet again they are ramming this false narrative into every child that steps through their doors. Barinwasing everyone with a fake history. And best of it is we all then have had to take an exam at some point which requires us all to give an untrue answer, simply to pass! It's absolutely insane and laughable tbh.
      Look at the bigger picture of what the so called education system really is. You only start to learn who you are and the truth about the world we live in once you've escaped the programming that creates nothing more than conditioned closed minds in our society.
      Academia should be renamed - Menticide.

    • @oakstrong1
      @oakstrong1 Год назад +4

      Such as students with physica or learning disabilities, psychological and social difficulties? Good point.

    • @KittenCritters
      @KittenCritters Год назад +3

      Simple, they don’t accept problematic students. It’s a big problem

    • @KittenCritters
      @KittenCritters Год назад +3

      @DavJack not accepting doesn’t mean rejecting lol

    • @Homer-OJ-Simpson
      @Homer-OJ-Simpson Год назад +2

      Did you not watch the video? Anyone can use their vouchers to any school. You cannot deny them. These private schools are still heavily regulated that way.

  • @robertsaget9697
    @robertsaget9697 Год назад +9

    vouchers work when they cover all or most of tuition. When vouchers dont cover most of the cost then it just becomes a tax break for the rich snd wealthy further driving inequality in education.

  • @whatsup3519
    @whatsup3519 Год назад +45

    If private colleges encourage quality. Then why India private education system struggle? Why people value govt education over private? Pls make case study on it.

    • @saileshrachapudi8486
      @saileshrachapudi8486 Год назад +10

      Govt education is cheap

    • @jigpig4140
      @jigpig4140 Год назад

      In India private education is not affordable to everyone.

    • @TheRishijoesanu
      @TheRishijoesanu Год назад +23

      I'm Indian. The reason for this is called "crowding out effect" in economics textbook. Basically India had virtually no private higher education sector till 1991 economic liberalization. When the sector was opened up the public colleges had a huge first mover advantage and private colleges couldn't compete with them at IIT level. Public colleges kept funding whether or not tgey did well "crowding out" all the capital. Combine this with the fact that Indian higher education is highly centralized with organizations like UGC, AICTE and CBSE centrally regulating everything private colleges.
      That being said Indian private higher education sector is actually booming now. It used to be much worse before 1991. AICTE has relaxed some of the norms recently and now we are actually seeing many new quality private colleges blooming despite government keeping on building IITs and IIMs like there is no tomorrow.

    • @TheRishijoesanu
      @TheRishijoesanu Год назад +6

      @@saileshrachapudi8486 Because government education is subsidized and capital crowded away from private sector.

    • @TheRishijoesanu
      @TheRishijoesanu Год назад +3

      India has always had a problem with governments funding higher education instesd of primary and secondary education.

  • @leonidasg2257
    @leonidasg2257 Год назад +1

    The in only way for such a system to work is to make an independent examination system for all schools. This way at the end of the year parents can easily compare which schools and why not even which professors did a good job.

  • @oakstrong1
    @oakstrong1 Год назад +2

    UK also has charter schools but the standard of education compared to government schools are a mixed bag. The effectiveness of schools can be compared because of the standardised tests. There is also a third model, a private school that does not get funding from the government (in theory). The latter ones cherry pick their students, the class sizes are smaller but at the same time they usually have better resources.

  • @peterfmodel
    @peterfmodel Год назад +1

    The basic principal of allowing parents to choose which school their children is an example of self-correcting system, with schools which provided poor results suffering and schools which offer high levels of service benefiting. Getting this to work correct is the hard bit.

  • @PabloGambaccini
    @PabloGambaccini Год назад

    Education, health, public transportation and housing have similar problematics, as they get tangled in "place monopolies" a combination and balance of private administration for efficiency and public organization to guarantee quality and access are necessary. But the balance between the two systems is a hard one.

  • @TARAKATACKY
    @TARAKATACKY Год назад +2

    I grew up in Spain in the 80s. Traditionally many schools where run by the church, hence they could not jump directly to a public system. After becoming a democracy, Spain would pay the same they would pay to a public school and from there on is up to the families to top-up if they wish a private school, ie hybrid. I live now in SG and other services - like healthcare- is similar, the state provides certain minimum level, from there on the individual can top -up to get extra perks. I believe These kind of hybrid systems, where you take the best of each system from a practical point without big dogmatic between capitalism and communism, the important thing is people. In my view everyone should have a minimum guaranteed (social safety) with the choice of extra perks (capitalist incentive).

  • @Kaede-Sasaki
    @Kaede-Sasaki Месяц назад

    Is your video editing software having a virus fit, or the digitizing blocks and visual noise on purpose?

  • @rekoj59
    @rekoj59 Год назад +5

    Swede here. I’d like to add 2 factors to keep in mind when discussing this:
    1. The huge ammount of immigration the last years contribute to the decline in PISA scores. When looking at the scores of the natives exclusively, the scores have not worsened.
    2. The Friskolor system provides incentive to the schools to grade more generously, since then they receive more money. Thus, we have a problem with grade inflation, students receiving higher grades than they deserve.

    • @antonfriberg881
      @antonfriberg881 Год назад +1

      Commenting on this because it’s very true! My suggestion for the second problem would be to adopt a system similar to countries like China or Korea where the college entrance exam is the only thing that matters, which would remove the incentive for private schools to grade higher

    • @joaofigueiredo7509
      @joaofigueiredo7509 Год назад

      Living in Sweden since 2010 and can state without a shadow of a doubt that the point number one is complete racist BS. There are many reports - not from Timbro, of course - that consistently show that the fall in scores is in all the demographics. The issue is the system, not the students. There is in fact even statistical data that proves that refugees and immigrant's children are better students than native ones.

  • @LuisAugustusFGomes
    @LuisAugustusFGomes Год назад +3

    That should be applied right now in Brazil!! Public schools here are a disaster and private schools have high quality in their services.

    • @viniciusfranceschi2095
      @viniciusfranceschi2095 Год назад

      The Brazil education system is underfunded, and the poor education is the result of a structural issues, for example: 50% of the poor people don’t have sanitation, many families live in precarious condition, 15% of population has food insecurity, we have a long history of a corruption state, the health system is broken, and we live in some areas with death rates bigger than in places with civil war. Brazil is not Sweden. I totally agree that a better education is the only way, but expect that this transformation comes from the private sector, I don’t think so.

  • @christopherrobinson1390
    @christopherrobinson1390 Год назад +3

    Friskolar is pronounced like "FreeSchoolar" in other words Free schools. As a teacher I have worked in 3 United States charter schools and in US public schools. The charter schools were right for some students but not right for all students. Schools here are funded by a number of factors, number of seats filled and property taxes. Therefore, a school in a low property value area with a charter school will be negatively impacted. The best charter school I worked in was in a high property value area. They were not lacking in resources, and they did not seem to take away from the education value and nearby public schools. The opposite seemed to be the case in rural charter vs public schools. Both suffered, but the public school ultimately had better resources in the case I experienced.

    • @hkchan1339
      @hkchan1339 Год назад +2

      I think the funding need to be done centrally so resources are more even

  • @TheRunpoker
    @TheRunpoker Год назад

    Denmark has a thriving “friskole” system to. Government pays 80% of private school tuition. It comes out of 19th century peasant enlightenment and co-op movement and not neoliberalism thought.

  • @jascrandom9855
    @jascrandom9855 Год назад +2

    Given that this system caused a degradation in the quality of public schooling and the level of education in general, it's a failure. Even if the Private Schools do better than Public Schools, there is a Net loss for Swidish society.

  • @AlanKetzer
    @AlanKetzer 7 месяцев назад

    Here in Argentina one presidential candidate (Milei) is trying to encourage this system, hope people in my country watch this video.

  • @gressvikgutten
    @gressvikgutten Год назад +1

    Will there be a potential problem for the students of the private schools that loose money? Of course if everyone jumps ship at the same time, it would not be a problem, but for the students that stay behind because of friends or travel distance, won't they suffer compared to students from public shools?

  • @BogdanStroe
    @BogdanStroe Год назад +1

    Let's say I want to open a new school. How do I get a building that is proper for teaching kids? Is this an investment I have to do with my own money or the state provides this facility?

  • @topangax
    @topangax 9 месяцев назад

    Anyone have the 2015 article mentioned?

  • @V3ritas1989
    @V3ritas1989 Год назад

    wren't there a baltic state that have introduced similar for the same reason?

  • @christianspanggaard
    @christianspanggaard Год назад

    I can only compare to Danish private school where there is not public funding for the schools. My personal experience is that people who went to private schools generally have lower academic levels after elementary school but have better friendships and another set of values such as equality and inclusion across years and interests.

  • @mpou206
    @mpou206 Год назад +11

    I have actually done a quick study of the same thing in Denmark. However it isn't quite comparable since we have private and public schools. So I compared those instead. This is wastly simplifying the comparison, but private schools did show higher grades on average, BUT they ALSO showed a lot lower grades than public schools. So a higher variability compared to public schools that had a much more standardised average. By that I mean that public schools was more consistent in producing students with good grades. Where it gets interesting is when you factor in socio economic factors ie if the child came from a poor background or if the family was immigrants. In that case the public schools was wastly superior and also produced children who was more tolerent of others. In summation public schools are better for integration of society and are more consistent then private schools. Good private schools are better at rasing the childs average grade, but this only happens when there is a lot of choice, as mentioned in the video, if its the only alternative and it bad, then you are not to put a to fine point on it: "shit out of luck".
    I also have a serious problem with the "no incentive to get better" point the video made for public schools. It predisposes that teachers don't want to do a good job and that the state has no interest in imporving public schooling, or means to preasure schools. Which is patently wrong!

    • @DanielS-zq2rr
      @DanielS-zq2rr Год назад +1

      What incentive do public schools have to do better?

    • @mpou206
      @mpou206 Год назад

      @@DanielS-zq2rr well for one thing most school teachers want to teach, and have the kids they teach succed. For another the principal is held responseble for the results of the students and if he doesn't do a good job, he gets fired. People can want to do a good job because they like the job or want to make a difference to the children. Thats what many forget about public institutions. This channel often talk about disfunctionel countries but in a properly run state, the public institutions are run with the aim of doing good, not just collect money for the state. Not that this doesn't happen, but we are talking about the nordic countries with a very low level of corruption.

    • @Kaede-Sasaki
      @Kaede-Sasaki Месяц назад

      Why not give extra money for physically, mentally, and intelliectually disabled students to cover the costs of accommodations as well as a bit extra to incentivize the schools to accept them?

  • @letsdoitforjohnny5066
    @letsdoitforjohnny5066 Год назад +3

    In Florida we have regular public education, charter schools (financed through the state and local) and private schools. Every property owner pays direct taxes for the first 2, charter schools generally pay less but if you speak with the teachers they prefer the privately managed schools. The charter schools also encourage or require higher parent participation than regular public schools. We also have pre-paid tuition programs for State Universities and the bright future scholarships which are given to any student with a 3.0 GPA or higher to attend a Public University if you can get accepted based on entrance requirements, some schools even in the public university system have higher standards IE University of Florida is the toughest to get in. With all that said we have 12 public universities in Florida, not counting all the smaller public local colleges. Our public universities can range from 70K to 10K students. It’s pretty diverse but if you want to go to college in Florida you can. I have spoken to many from other states and they are not as developed nor create the same opportunities as my state.

  • @michaelhughes6634
    @michaelhughes6634 Год назад

    I think Swedens model is a hybrid system, because the government still controls price per student. I would say that teachers do work really hard to help everyone in school, not just thinking about pay which teachers in the private sector are doing the same. Furthermore, could you find proof that the private sector is better for all subjects. Sure it could be a 5% increase in quality but is it distinct to certain subjects. For example, it is cheaper to buy books to teach an english lesson then to get chemicals for a chemistry experiment. My opinion on the matter is that it is a very complicated topic and depends on a lot of variables like you have mentioned about there being only one school for certain areas. Maybe the best is both public and private. Public in areas with low competition (due to geography) and private in high demand areas for education.

  • @Gabriel_Tan
    @Gabriel_Tan Год назад +1

    10:40 I think this has an underlying selection bias. It isn't unusual, that private schools perform better, since the pupils are usually from well educated families who would also perform better in public schools.
    I think private schools in general, bur especially subcidising private schools just increases inequality since wealthier neighborhoods can spend more on teachers salaries or smaller classes, improving their kids opportunitier and reducing the opportunities of poorer neighborhoods. This is nor only antisocial bit also economically dumb, since you miss some smart kids that happen to live in a poorer neighborhood.
    A better alternative is just investing more in the public schools so everyone can profit. Since the return of investment in education is huge.

  • @Xamufam
    @Xamufam Год назад

    Make it easier to open and make it have the ability to work with companies that exist

  • @JPriz416
    @JPriz416 Год назад +2

    My children are older now so there not in school. If I had to do it over again the first thing I would have to do is move out of the United States. America is so far behind other countries. We are an embarrassment to democracy and education.

  • @jaydenclowers2616
    @jaydenclowers2616 Год назад

    This system is not the good way of educating the youth,. Public schools ran by the state ensures that each student gets the high quality education. Leaving it to private schools is untrusting/

  • @lloydjones3371
    @lloydjones3371 Год назад

    8 points better at 85% of the cost, with better university outcomes sounds like a major success.

  • @markslovik4115
    @markslovik4115 Год назад

    Big question: Each school receives the same amount per child? Or are there schools that receive more money per students than others?

    • @MrMidjji
      @MrMidjji Год назад

      It varies by area and paper supported student difficulties. Problem is getting the papers that a student, e.g. is in a wheelchair, or has severe adhd, takes years. So no extra money till then.

    • @Kaede-Sasaki
      @Kaede-Sasaki Месяц назад

      Why not give extra money for physically, mentally, and intelliectually disabled students to cover the costs of accommodations as well as a bit extra to incentivize the schools to accept them?

  • @kaizt6806
    @kaizt6806 Год назад

    My though is Private School will profit driven to poach more good quality teacher from Public School that worsen the quality of it.
    As long as price is control, it might works....

  • @christiansta2771
    @christiansta2771 Год назад

    Education needs a massive overhaul and the biggest issue with public schools is a complete lack of innovation and a one size fits all approach to learning. Let the eduction dollars follow the student and introduce more competition and different methods of learning. Boys learn different than girls and there are many more variations of learning in between.

  • @tobiaslindberg3062
    @tobiaslindberg3062 Год назад +4

    The problem comparing the PISA reports is that Sweden has a large immigration with lots of kids from the middle east and they are the ones lowering the score

    • @nimaakbari1565
      @nimaakbari1565 Год назад +2

      Sources on that please? That's the most ignorant and racist comment I've seen in the comment section of this video!

    • @Gabriel_Tan
      @Gabriel_Tan Год назад +3

      @Nima Akbari
      You can also get to this conclusion without racism.
      People from the middle east are at a disadvantage in Swedish schools since Swedish isnt their first language, theyre more likely to be traumatised, they have to adapt to a different culture etc. A generation later these disadvantages might be gone. but at the moment it is a reality and you dont do anyone a favor denying it.

    • @learning2895
      @learning2895 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@nimaakbari1565it's not racist, yo can check the 2018 PISA report and read the part when they mention immigration.

  • @dane3015
    @dane3015 Год назад +1

    Public schools mostly still have the same costs even if a private school opens up next door and attract some of the students. The private school gets the same money per student as the public school with the recently increased cost per student. This make education more costly for everyone and the private schools can make a fortune.
    Also the private schools are cherry picking its location of course, meanwhile the state are obligated to provide education to everyone. The comparison fails for many reasons but with Swedens heavy immigration and lacking integration it is obvious that some areas will need more support and you can bet that the private school will pop up in the good neighborhood nearby cashing in at the same rate as the school with a lot of needs. Grades will of course differ even though private schools generally have bigger groups and less support.
    The most common opinion here in Sweden is that privatization was a bad idea but you would rather have your kids there anyway since a lot of the public schools are in total decline due to that same privatization.

    • @Kaede-Sasaki
      @Kaede-Sasaki Месяц назад

      Why not give extra money for physically, mentally, and intelliectually disabled students to cover the costs of accommodations as well as a bit extra to incentivize the schools to accept them?

    • @dane3015
      @dane3015 Месяц назад +1

      @@Kaede-Sasaki Well that's already in practice, and the private schools are also not allowed to deny students for those reasons you mentioned. But that is not at all the issue we are struggling with.

  • @georgeolson3996
    @georgeolson3996 Месяц назад

    Calgary Alberta 1955-56 Public School -- the stupid system had asopted Sight Reading. 1957-59 Montessori Private School to repair the damage . 1960-61 Briabane Queensland Public School was tough because a mucher higher demand on formal English grammer vocabulary than Canada . 1963-66 Brisbane Boys College a private school (Presbyterian nominally) but actually Rugby crazy and did not give a F---K about academics. 1967-69 Churchlands Public High School Perth West Australia. Better atmosphere. So --------
    Failed West Australian Final Exams -- BUT took US SAT University entrance tests - 98th percentile Physics , 82 percentile Chemistry and 72nd percentile for Mathmatics.
    1969-73 University of Minnesota Duluth Campus which had some Departments with Arrogant Professors who only taught the brilliant and choose inscrutable textbooks and useless
    blather for lectures.😅
    Summation

  • @tannermurphree8247
    @tannermurphree8247 Год назад

    Guys private education is not inherently better than the public option. What charter schools do is provide an option to parents when their public option is not very good, spurring the public school to raise outcomes to not lose the gov expenditures for school. It’s not perfect, but it works somewhat well in the United States. Our voucher system stems from the ideas os Milton Freidman as well.

  • @blaich2
    @blaich2 Год назад

    If you read the statistics all groups have had higher results in sweden. It’s only the high intake of more vunerable students, like immigrants, pulling down the average.
    Statistics can be tricky.

  • @danielortman2534
    @danielortman2534 Год назад

    The US has a smilier voucher system in places that offsets the cost of private schools. It is controversial, but I certainly support it in areas where the public schools are managed poorly.

  • @viniciusfranceschi2095
    @viniciusfranceschi2095 Год назад +2

    I would be curious to know if these “investments” in art, math, etc really happen. If you pursue profit, it is difficult to imagine why these private schools will invest money in these kind of things. If any other nearby school has piano class, what the point for the school owner to take money for their pocket and invest in piano lessons (or karate, math, art, or whatsoever). And, it is wrong to consider that the parents will always change their children to another school when they find a better school. It depends on the children (adaptation, children characteristics), distance, etc. So, how much “better” does the other school have to be to put forward a so important change for the children? In conclusion, the government has to set up the standards and to guarantee that these standards are being followed.

  • @Vryaer
    @Vryaer Год назад

    I bet many are already mentioning this but look at any other implementation of such a system for education and it just doesn't work. It's too finicky and relies on specific on economic and culture conditions that can't be replicated. The average country is far better served by implementing a public education system as that isn't as reliant on unique cultural aspects and far less reliant on economic ones.

  • @gilberttello08
    @gilberttello08 2 месяца назад

    👍👍

  • @charlespapineau1236
    @charlespapineau1236 9 месяцев назад

    Vers disapointing i tough it was like finland a True social democracy.

  • @user-zz8lb6bd7p
    @user-zz8lb6bd7p Год назад +1

    You are very flattering to Swedes, however its a mess. It was so bad the Swedish Head of Education (Anna Ekström) cheat on the PISA test (which you should have brought up). One school is famous, Vetenskapsskolan under Abdel Nasser El Nadi leadership hired returning IS fighters and took out millions in profits and according to School Inspection Bureau (Skolinspektionen) boys were seated at the front and girls at the back.

    • @MrMidjji
      @MrMidjji Год назад

      Seating the boys in front is because how much problems they make is proportional to distance to the teacher, its a mark of shame not priviledge. They also seat quiet well performing boys in the back.

  • @trevorsmith5274
    @trevorsmith5274 Год назад +1

    Woo

  • @jamesrenfroe4477
    @jamesrenfroe4477 Год назад

    Schools shouldn't have to cater to parents. If parents want to micromanage their child's school, they should homeschool.

  • @VikingAwayFromHome
    @VikingAwayFromHome Год назад +4

    I'm afraid that this video has made me question the quality of research carried out by your team, as it completely fails to address the elephant in the room.
    "Friskolor" are largely for kids whose parents are heavily involved in their education, and unlike public schools they frequently cherry pick their students (in fact, 80% have been found to do just that!).
    That's not competition - it's UNFAIR competition.

    • @michaelpassick7539
      @michaelpassick7539 Год назад +1

      I agree that that is video fails to report on parent involvement as a factor for success. I disagree that this is somehow 'unfair'. Parent involvement should be tracked as a facet for success. It should also be encouraged as an important component for an academic center to succeed.

    • @hkchan1339
      @hkchan1339 Год назад +2

      Isn’t it also part of the free market that parents who cares about their children had better educated kids ?
      If you are willing to devote the time you deserve to join a school who does value it rather than the public system

  • @vod96
    @vod96 Год назад +1

    Government legal barriers create shitty and monopolized services,
    surprised_pickachu.jpg

  • @fredrikgustavsson5806
    @fredrikgustavsson5806 Год назад +2

    During the time the PISA results fell, the share of the Swedish population born abroad increased from a few percent to over 20%. This is the whole explanation

  • @juztnlast953
    @juztnlast953 Год назад

    I got the strong impression that many Swedes think their own private choice, but publicly-funded schools has not worked well to better educate students. Lots of Swedes are critics of their system. The best system in terms of results points to Finland that has a mostly public school. Not to mention since the reform was made in 1994 these "free" schools are still a minority in Swedish education almost 30 years later. Only 20% of upper secondary school students attend these privately managed schools and only 10% of primary students attend these schools. Less than three quarters of that 20%/10% are for-profit. This video really misrepresents these free/ private institutions. It isn't a wave of privatization of the education system.

  • @krijo210
    @krijo210 Год назад

    You will get very different answers if "friskolor" are good or bad, depending on if you ask a socialist or liberal/conservative.
    The socialists hate friskolor, because the "market schools" in general perform better that the public schools. They are also annoyed that schools make a profit of tax payers money, even though these profits are relatively small. There is also a degree of segregation, because high income earners with a university degree tend to make a conscious decision and place their children in high performing private schools.
    The liberals and conservatives love friskolor, because they prove that the competition of a market economy works. Power over schools is removed from (incompetent) politicians and given to the local school owners, which usually know better how to organize a school for good results and lower cost.
    The swedes vote with their legs, and place their kids in friskolor. Banning friskolor was one of several reasons why the socialists lost the last election.

  • @prosper4wardubbi915
    @prosper4wardubbi915 Год назад +1

    All education in Sweden is not free.

  • @BillHimmel
    @BillHimmel Год назад

    I‘m not a huge fan of Milton Friedman, but I think he was right about the school voucher system! I would love to see it implemented!

    • @davidaltamirano7672
      @davidaltamirano7672 10 месяцев назад +1

      Trust me, you do not. Chile have abandoned this reform and Sweden will soon follow suit.

  • @cristianfamigliuolo
    @cristianfamigliuolo Год назад

    Freeman built a beautiful capitalist school system, an artifact that said what political favors demanded. This isn't honest though. And in fact the Swedish School came out in a Way.. So not everything Tremano says is NOT AFFECTED.

  • @egg174
    @egg174 Год назад

    Free college!!

  • @joaofigueiredo7509
    @joaofigueiredo7509 Год назад

    Living in Sweden since 2010 and I subscribe to the channel. I can only regret the bias here. I know that the channel is pro libertarianism and capitalism in a very American fashion. And that is ok, I like to get new input and perspectives. But making this video and not showing the flaws and the increasing debate in the country about this system's failure is a huge disapointement. Even the liberal party that introduced this system and currently in power again has recently admitted the system to have failed in many aspects and opened up for some changes. The fact that more and more families chose friskolor is not because they are good but because more and more municipalities close down or sell schools to private actors. Therefore parents have no other choice but to send their kids to private schools. Why do so many municipalities close their public schools or sell them? Because the way friskolor are financed today means that municipalities will in deed get less and less money for schools. In the end they get so financially chocked that they have no other choice but to sell. Friskolor are also constantly being targeted by media because they give way too generous grades to their students, as a marketing strategy. In many cases, the difference between the grades and the actual knowledge was so big that that were legal consequences. Is this the kind of education system we need in a society? To grade uneducated and uncapable students so that shareholders get more stock dividend? Not for me. These issues have even been highly used in comedy shows/talk shows on different Swedish tv-channels for being so bad and so flawed. There are many more aspects left behind, like for instance friskolor hiring cheap teachers without education or background control and later on even having those teachers comitting crimes in their classes. Or friskolor simply not spending public funding on student material as they should, so that they can save their profits. Very disappointing Visual Economic.

  • @dylreesYT
    @dylreesYT Год назад

    I’m British but I speak Swedish. I didn’t pay attention to the spelling but I watched 75% of the video before I realised how poorly he was pronouncing friskolar hahaha Thought it was some fancy name before I realised it’s just “free schools” in Swedish lol.
    My biggest issue with this video is that you claim teachers have no incentive to provide higher quality education without competition from other schools. Teachers teach not just for money but because they do good for society. They always want to become better themselves and help children. Implying it’s all about money for them is demeaning to their profession.

  • @miramuchachito296
    @miramuchachito296 Год назад

    I love your videos but the music transitions are so tacky! Really don't like them and i think they are unnecesary.

  • @flybobbie1449
    @flybobbie1449 8 месяцев назад

    These countries have low population so don't overwhelm services.

  • @prestonmathis2133
    @prestonmathis2133 Год назад +1

    *I think inflations is causing the current situation we already have now, increments in the price of gas,and rate of unemployment is becoming inconducive. It's obvious we are headed for hyperinflation ,unfortunately having a job doesn't mean been safe rather having multiple income streams that doesn't depend on the government would be a great decision.This is still a good time to invest in gold, silver and digital currencies (BTC, ETH...)*

  • @FlamingBasketballClub
    @FlamingBasketballClub Год назад +2

    This channel loves education systems 🤣

  • @bulletnutz6382
    @bulletnutz6382 Год назад

    Wow so many fact errors in this vid🤣 To start with the leader of the party ”Moderaterna”s name is Carl Bildt - not Billdt and they where a part of a coalisionsgovernment that had rouled Sweden before (Why no factcheck? Its not hard to do). The main misstake you make is not agnolishing that the private schools gives their students higher grades but there students are doing worse on the standard tests than the students in public schools. They only do this to get more parents to send there chidren to their private schools. The government pays the same fee per student whether its a private or a public school and the 85% he speaks of is whats levt after the private schools have taken their profit. In public schools 100% is invested in the students. So the private schools are cheeting with the grades 🫣.