5:34 funny thing is, timmy checked with riot games before the challenge. He got permission and promised to delete the account after the challenge. But a random riot employee decided to nuke him lmao
Wait, yours too?! Mine's not only by appearance, but also by their attitude and I quote from the judges "He/she's a polite, so we announce that the verdict not guilty" or maybe that's just their way to say "Dude he/she give me some fat stack of cash, so we release 'em"
Damd I'm here before 10 views, whoever edits these (lemon if I remeber) is a legend, the edits are always perfectly timed and never seem to interrupt the flow of the video
As someone who dislikes desktop icon clutter and search history bloat and prefers to leave those bare, it always amuses me whenever streamers get caught with cheats or embarrassing/illegal stuff because they just leave 'em on their desktops or in their search histories.
On COD MW on the Wii (yep long long ago) I remember being in a game with a hacker. They made it where EVERYONE had unlimited ammo and no reload needed. The games that day were silly fun. Outside of that cheaters need to find a new hobby.
5:09 Bad take, in Valorant you have placement matches that wouldn't allow Timmy to be placed in Iron. So either he threw his matches to be placed way lower than his rank or he bought the account which is against Valorant's ToS. It would've been fine if he did unranked to Radiant (highest rank), not Iron to Radiant
He probably bought it, You might not believe this but getting placed in Iron intentionally is pretty hard, You either need to be entirely new to the game and grinded that 20 level with alot of loss then fck up your 5 placement match to get there, or you can get 5 stack to derank the account by surrendering in 5 rounds every games.
Nothing really wrong with a challange run smurf. They're not staying in the low brackets enough to matter, and the derailing can be treated as just a really bad newbie playing.
I know nothing about the Halo speedrunner in this video, so I have no bias by which to defend or accuse them in any way, I just want to point out a couple things (based on what is shown in this) that might explain his poor performance in the event and/or make it somewhat understandable at the very least: 1) He apparently has/had the world record for *Halo 2*. The game he was shown playing in the clip was *Halo 1*. Given that, it's entirely possible that he could have gotten lost because he is not playing the game he actually has the record in, meaning it's possible he's less familiar with the map layouts and where to go. 2) He set the Halo 2 record in 2005. The event shown in the clip was in 2011. As I said above, I know nothing about the speedrunner in question, but they gave no other information about him personally in the clip shown, so its entirely possible for his skills to have simply diminished over that amount of time, as the video doesn't mention anything about how often (if at all) he still plays Halo or other games, either on console or PC. All that being said, Halo 2 legendary is infinitely harder than Halo 1 legendary (and dare I say impossible to do without dying. Jackal snipers, I'm looking at you), so it's no surprise that people might think he cheated the Halo 2 record after all, regardless of his performance in the much easier Halo 1 during the event.
I've thought the same. I don't even remember games I was playing 5 years ago, even if I was really grinding. So it might be or might not be a cheating in that particular case.
Ok, we need to somehow treat this kind of cheating as a drug. The only reason someone would do this, is to get that high of winning over and over and over again. Not to mention there HAS to be something wrong in their brain chemistry to find this fun because I, for one, can’t understand why cheating like this is fun.
its kinda true tho.. i remember using cheat/mod on Crossfire to grind on AI hoard mode for that camo/skin coz man.. the amount of material needed was absurd and you gotta clear it too for ensure higher rate not to mention you need blueprints for those skin.. already quit years ago tho coz literal p2w gun exist lmao then afterward i go to pvp rooms to report cheaters while playing "lower than normal" skill kekw its really easy to spot cheaters if you got cheat too tbh
Smurfing for challenges I gave no issue with. Hell every year, sometimes more friending on season starts, fanhots does a bronze to GM run in heroes of the storm. Ex pro smurfing using the worst builds just to have fun not trying hard and doing a challenge. He’s not doing try hard just laid back gaming for content and it’s fun to watch
The smurfing thing is very context dependent. As a low level player if someone is notably better and stomps me, that happens. I don't mind someone climbing through. Especially the marathon stream. The intent was to make a challenge for himself.
5:10 smurfs ruin like at least 20% of my valorant games. 20% is on a good day. You get those lvl 1-10 jetts and reynas that have a 30/10 kd at the end of the game
I had a guy in Apex who devasted my team with headshots. He was playing alone, and I watched him further since I found him interesting, and I actually often use this opportunity to learn from other people. In the end he became a champion. And I looked up his stats... it was his "second" match in Apex ))
Bro that's exactly how it feels. You're getting your shit tossed and everyone knows the dude is walling or aimbot. To see the game freeze then a red screen, my fucking God I've never heard discord calls get so hyped
Smurfing is banned because it shows off how terrible match making is. Drawing attention to the shortcoming of a game system is a good way to piss off the people trying to get kids to gamble.
Personally, I have no issue with people cheating....while offline. You're playing offline by yourself? Cheat as much as you want, I don't care. Cheat while playing with other players? That I have a problem with....especially if you happen to be trying to cheat in some sort of tournament with a tangible prize for winning or performing well.
TL;DR: I don't think smurfing is cheating and it shouldn't be a bannable offense. So far the only "cheat" I disagree with is the smurfing one. It's kind of bs to penalize a player who is just really good at the game. Like what if someone is actually new and just so happens to be naturally good at the game? Are they banned for it? And the reason of "Well smurfs ruin the fun for other people" like my dudes, you're playing a competitive shooter, or at least a competitive game. Getting your shit pushed in by someone better is going to happen. I'm not saying you can't get angry about it, heaven knows I've slammed a controller a couple times during a match but calling it cheating is absurd. Like I've technically "smurfed" before, hell multiple times, because I've played games on platforms I previously hadn't before, should I be banned? I mean because of some games matchmaking systems, top-tier players NEED to create smurf accounts just so they can find matches, I think this was the case in Halo 5 because their matchmaking system was so crap.
I believe people can change saying otherwise is insane to say . Because if that was the case we all would be guilty because at one point in each person lives they've changed .
Well, a company makes money by selling their games. To new players. And if those newbie players get constantly hit with no chance to play, they start complaining. And less people buy the game. Financial part aside, ruining experience of beginner players is not a good thing in general. Also it's hard for me to understand why it's a thing in the first place. Like if you're a boxer and you've just beaten up an old lady - will it make you proud of yourself or even satisfied? The same with chess for example. If i won a match against some local champion I'd feel real joy, but if I beat up some beginner... nah.
8:30 playing valorant since 2021, got >400 hours, only had this happen once valorant's anticheat, despite being controversial, seems like it's doing its job
Dude, you need to watch some of Camomo's stuff, he's hilarious, and some of the people he catches are the most... actually, calling them idiotic is an insult... moronic is a better term, people I've seen. The charging bear-more is one of my personal favourites of his methods of trolling cheaters.
Yeah Nagzz ngl "He's doing it for the challenge and content" is not a good excuse for ruining lobbies, it can affect player retention as new players will be matched against that smurfed and won't want to play the game because they got completely demolished in not only that match but others with other Smurfs
Honestly I never understood the hate around smurfing. You don't get better at a game buy playing against people your rank. You get better because someone is smurfing in front and you loose and learn.
Timmy's ban was fair. He is a top level player starting on a fresh account so he was smurfing on low ranked players. That is unfair, and ruins their experience of the game. So what if it is only for like 20 games. If every top level player did it there would be countless smurfs1
It's not the "top player" smurfs that are the biggest issue, it's the people hardstuck in a mid-tier rank who go smurfing on lower tier people just to feed their ego It's probably the biggest reason people hate smurfing so damned much. If it was just some random top player doing a challenge run every few months or whatever nobody would care but you get hundreds of people doing that all day long just because they've reached their peak and they need that dopamine hit. (I know a few people who play like this)
I get that smurfing is annoying and not nice way to play. But it is not a cheating. He isnt using anything that other players cant use. His only "unfair" advantage is that he is better. If he decide to play bad intentionally and drop several leagues and then starts to paly good, would that also be cheating?
Wait, how does the cheater screen proves that she know that she played with a cheater. She might have played with him, but could easily be unaware he is cheating. This video already have 2 moment which i would find odd.
5:34 funny thing is, timmy checked with riot games before the challenge. He got permission and promised to delete the account after the challenge. But a random riot employee decided to nuke him lmao
"it doesn't matter if she's hot or not, this is a court room"
not a lot of experience in court eh?
Wait, yours too?!
Mine's not only by appearance, but also by their attitude and I quote from the judges "He/she's a polite, so we announce that the verdict not guilty" or maybe that's just their way to say "Dude he/she give me some fat stack of cash, so we release 'em"
Damd I'm here before 10 views, whoever edits these (lemon if I remeber) is a legend, the edits are always perfectly timed and never seem to interrupt the flow of the video
Clara is on a rampage setting up all these people.
As someone who dislikes desktop icon clutter and search history bloat and prefers to leave those bare, it always amuses me whenever streamers get caught with cheats or embarrassing/illegal stuff because they just leave 'em on their desktops or in their search histories.
Maybe it's a subconscious thing? "Oh I'm gonna put it right here, I can always see it but no one will ever know I'm cheating, I'm so bad!"
@@komi-sanmustbeprotected5665 Well, that, or plain old laziness and/or stupidity.
Seriously, my desktop is almost barren, just a few folders. And I don't even stream so I have no reason to hide anything. I just hate icon clutter.
@@philtkaswahl2124 Sort of, most streamers are not tech savvy. Which is why they fall for alt f4 tricks.
11:29 Dropping it down to normal in front of people, that hurt to watch
On COD MW on the Wii (yep long long ago) I remember being in a game with a hacker. They made it where EVERYONE had unlimited ammo and no reload needed. The games that day were silly fun. Outside of that cheaters need to find a new hobby.
That's because COD on the Wii sucked and they had to find a way to at least make it playable. LOL
There's this thin line between confident and shameless in using cheat on stream
Damn, that Halo speedrun cheater got totally exposed. The room must've been dead silent after they ended the stream. XD
It definitely is. Everytime the people in the room stares at him after making mistakes are golden. lol
This is where the Souls community come with the best answer to these kind of people: "Git Gud, Scrub"
5:09 Bad take, in Valorant you have placement matches that wouldn't allow Timmy to be placed in Iron. So either he threw his matches to be placed way lower than his rank or he bought the account which is against Valorant's ToS.
It would've been fine if he did unranked to Radiant (highest rank), not Iron to Radiant
He probably bought it, You might not believe this but getting placed in Iron intentionally is pretty hard, You either need to be entirely new to the game and grinded that 20 level with alot of loss then fck up your 5 placement match to get there, or you can get 5 stack to derank the account by surrendering in 5 rounds every games.
Nothing really wrong with a challange run smurf. They're not staying in the low brackets enough to matter, and the derailing can be treated as just a really bad newbie playing.
I know nothing about the Halo speedrunner in this video, so I have no bias by which to defend or accuse them in any way, I just want to point out a couple things (based on what is shown in this) that might explain his poor performance in the event and/or make it somewhat understandable at the very least:
1) He apparently has/had the world record for *Halo 2*. The game he was shown playing in the clip was *Halo 1*. Given that, it's entirely possible that he could have gotten lost because he is not playing the game he actually has the record in, meaning it's possible he's less familiar with the map layouts and where to go.
2) He set the Halo 2 record in 2005. The event shown in the clip was in 2011. As I said above, I know nothing about the speedrunner in question, but they gave no other information about him personally in the clip shown, so its entirely possible for his skills to have simply diminished over that amount of time, as the video doesn't mention anything about how often (if at all) he still plays Halo or other games, either on console or PC.
All that being said, Halo 2 legendary is infinitely harder than Halo 1 legendary (and dare I say impossible to do without dying. Jackal snipers, I'm looking at you), so it's no surprise that people might think he cheated the Halo 2 record after all, regardless of his performance in the much easier Halo 1 during the event.
I've thought the same. I don't even remember games I was playing 5 years ago, even if I was really grinding. So it might be or might not be a cheating in that particular case.
That last Rust clip was straight outta Looney Tunes.
Ok, we need to somehow treat this kind of cheating as a drug. The only reason someone would do this, is to get that high of winning over and over and over again. Not to mention there HAS to be something wrong in their brain chemistry to find this fun because I, for one, can’t understand why cheating like this is fun.
its kinda true tho..
i remember using cheat/mod on Crossfire to grind on AI hoard mode for that camo/skin
coz man.. the amount of material needed was absurd and you gotta clear it too for ensure higher rate
not to mention you need blueprints for those skin.. already quit years ago tho coz literal p2w gun exist lmao
then afterward i go to pvp rooms to report cheaters while playing "lower than normal" skill kekw
its really easy to spot cheaters if you got cheat too tbh
Timmy eventually got unbanned on the same stream and reached Immortal during that marathon,
Smurfing for challenges I gave no issue with. Hell every year, sometimes more friending on season starts, fanhots does a bronze to GM run in heroes of the storm. Ex pro smurfing using the worst builds just to have fun not trying hard and doing a challenge. He’s not doing try hard just laid back gaming for content and it’s fun to watch
The smurfing thing is very context dependent. As a low level player if someone is notably better and stomps me, that happens. I don't mind someone climbing through. Especially the marathon stream. The intent was to make a challenge for himself.
5:10 smurfs ruin like at least 20% of my valorant games.
20% is on a good day.
You get those lvl 1-10 jetts and reynas that have a 30/10 kd at the end of the game
I had a guy in Apex who devasted my team with headshots. He was playing alone, and I watched him further since I found him interesting, and I actually often use this opportunity to learn from other people. In the end he became a champion. And I looked up his stats... it was his "second" match in Apex ))
Cheating in single player to mess with things is fine, multiplayer of any kind, is a big *N.O*
Is there more of this?
Bro that's exactly how it feels. You're getting your shit tossed and everyone knows the dude is walling or aimbot. To see the game freeze then a red screen, my fucking God I've never heard discord calls get so hyped
learned engine owning was a thing today lol
Hey man I always google google. I just like the big search bar in the center.
ngl i would love for nagzz to react to the guy that cheated mario 64 speedrunning blindfolded
Smurfing is banned because it shows off how terrible match making is. Drawing attention to the shortcoming of a game system is a good way to piss off the people trying to get kids to gamble.
Personally, I have no issue with people cheating....while offline. You're playing offline by yourself? Cheat as much as you want, I don't care. Cheat while playing with other players? That I have a problem with....especially if you happen to be trying to cheat in some sort of tournament with a tangible prize for winning or performing well.
Wait Dejavu?
Ive watched this ... hold up i'm gonna go check the date!!
I watched Part 1 and 3 but couldn't find Part 2.
TL;DR: I don't think smurfing is cheating and it shouldn't be a bannable offense.
So far the only "cheat" I disagree with is the smurfing one. It's kind of bs to penalize a player who is just really good at the game. Like what if someone is actually new and just so happens to be naturally good at the game? Are they banned for it? And the reason of "Well smurfs ruin the fun for other people" like my dudes, you're playing a competitive shooter, or at least a competitive game. Getting your shit pushed in by someone better is going to happen. I'm not saying you can't get angry about it, heaven knows I've slammed a controller a couple times during a match but calling it cheating is absurd.
Like I've technically "smurfed" before, hell multiple times, because I've played games on platforms I previously hadn't before, should I be banned? I mean because of some games matchmaking systems, top-tier players NEED to create smurf accounts just so they can find matches, I think this was the case in Halo 5 because their matchmaking system was so crap.
Busing is rampant in rust as well
5:21 That's exactly what you said 🧐…
I believe people can change saying otherwise is insane to say . Because if that was the case we all would be guilty because at one point in each person lives they've changed .
id cheat only of it benefits the other team,like giving the enemy rook Armor
imagine cheating and thinking youre good at the game
Getting banned for "smurfing" is laaaaaame. Riot has some weird rules.
Well, a company makes money by selling their games. To new players. And if those newbie players get constantly hit with no chance to play, they start complaining. And less people buy the game.
Financial part aside, ruining experience of beginner players is not a good thing in general. Also it's hard for me to understand why it's a thing in the first place. Like if you're a boxer and you've just beaten up an old lady - will it make you proud of yourself or even satisfied? The same with chess for example. If i won a match against some local champion I'd feel real joy, but if I beat up some beginner... nah.
I wouldnt say everyone in call of duty but there are alot of cheaters that plague the games.
Bussing or driving the bus is an asian, specifically Korean gaming term for boosting/carrying other shittier players.
8:30 playing valorant since 2021, got >400 hours, only had this happen once
valorant's anticheat, despite being controversial, seems like it's doing its job
it feel so good when you open CSGO and got the pop up, one or more person you reported have been ban. Delicious justice👌
Dude, you need to watch some of Camomo's stuff, he's hilarious, and some of the people he catches are the most... actually, calling them idiotic is an insult... moronic is a better term, people I've seen. The charging bear-more is one of my personal favourites of his methods of trolling cheaters.
15:32 nah. he googled google because he knew if he typed in engineowning it would autopopulate the url... didn't matter anyways though
Yeah Nagzz ngl "He's doing it for the challenge and content" is not a good excuse for ruining lobbies, it can affect player retention as new players will be matched against that smurfed and won't want to play the game because they got completely demolished in not only that match but others with other Smurfs
Honestly I never understood the hate around smurfing. You don't get better at a game buy playing against people your rank. You get better because someone is smurfing in front and you loose and learn.
This is why I hate fps community so many cheater
Have you considered it might have been Clara?
THAT SMURF THING IT MAY SUCK BUT ITS NOT CHEATING THATS WHY GET GOOD
Timmy's ban was fair. He is a top level player starting on a fresh account so he was smurfing on low ranked players. That is unfair, and ruins their experience of the game. So what if it is only for like 20 games. If every top level player did it there would be countless smurfs1
It's not the "top player" smurfs that are the biggest issue, it's the people hardstuck in a mid-tier rank who go smurfing on lower tier people just to feed their ego
It's probably the biggest reason people hate smurfing so damned much. If it was just some random top player doing a challenge run every few months or whatever nobody would care but you get hundreds of people doing that all day long just because they've reached their peak and they need that dopamine hit.
(I know a few people who play like this)
Nux Was Right
simp to cheats ...sad
I get that smurfing is annoying and not nice way to play. But it is not a cheating. He isnt using anything that other players cant use. His only "unfair" advantage is that he is better. If he decide to play bad intentionally and drop several leagues and then starts to paly good, would that also be cheating?
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Nagzz is cheating on Koe?
Wait, how does the cheater screen proves that she know that she played with a cheater. She might have played with him, but could easily be unaware he is cheating. This video already have 2 moment which i would find odd.
Wait... so they ban timmy but they don't re ban tyler1?