The absolute irony this podcast sponsored by a sustainable brand 😂it's like some kind of sick joke. Fast fashion is top 2 polluting industry globally, completely unnecessary and it simply cannot continue at the current rates of production. Please young people out there stop buying from these brands!! If only these influencers with huge followings would promote that and help the world be a better place
I wanted to love this interview, I really did. I would have defended Molly Mae to anyone to a fault. But this interview just made me incredibly sad. After having Mary Portas on the show and talking specifically about the hunger for infinite wealth in a world of finite resources, I was also really disappointed by the lack of challenge you brought to her in your questions Steven, choosing not to confront the massive issue of fast fashion, choosing not to confront the contradiction of wanting more versus money not being everything. And hearing about Molly screaming down the phone at a customer service assistant because she was terrified of being called "fat" in a tabloid and then attempting to justify it by pretending it was the "size 10 girls" she was most concerned about... that was horrendous. Truly. This was a really disppointing episode and anything but inspiring. Poor show.
@@Hannah33529 well said. Molly has no fashion experience and no experience being a creative director. she's just a young pretty face who went on reality tv. the male owners of pet are paying her because she's cute and has a following that's it. Such a massive ego for someone who got where they are based on youth and beauty.
It's very tone deaf to dismiss those who are living incredibly deprived lives and/or face significant obstacles with the 'everyone has the same 24 hours' attitude. Yes, everyone does have the same 24 hours but if you're e.g. living in extreme poverty, working multiple jobs just to make ends meet, have to choose between feeding your children and heating your home, progressing in life makes it very difficult. Not necessarily impossible, but significantly harder. I'm sure MM wouldn't be where she is today if she too was living in similar circumstances. Let's also not fail to acknowledge that a white blonde woman will have many more doors open for them than their ethnic minority counterpart.
Thank you for this because I thinking the same thing when she said this. As in yes, I understood what she was saying but it’s also important to acknowledge the privilege you have whether racially or financially and she has both, others don’t. They aren’t as privileged and can’t achieve the same things in 24hrs as others. Completely tone deaf of her honestly.
Really insightful with Molly Mae and she clearly knows how to make money. However, I feel it is unfair to say she has elevated so much higher than all other islanders, Wes Nelson has platinum songs, is performing in the o2 and is a property investment millionaire. Along with other islanders who have used their platform far more wisely; Dr Alex George is the mental health ambassador of the U.K. and has worked tirelessly throughout the pandemic. Whereas molly is supporting overconsumption and a brand that is killing our planet in a climate crisis. No one can take away from her how authentic and creative she clearly is, however her ethical values supporting fast fashion is extremely questionable and shouldn’t be celebrated. The host should be asking these tricky questions. Very biased interview.
This is such a good point! So many other islanders like the ones you said plus Joz Denzel, are doing incredibly well in their own areas. Influencing/fast fashion isn’t the only way to be seen as successful
Exactly. Where is the conversation about working conditions and quality of life for the people that sew the clothes? Lots of the luxury brands she needed to show her fans is made from leather. I am always thinking of Sophie, Mike, and Caroline Flack. Caroline made the show a success. The planet is a beautiful wondrous place. Why are all these people thinking their wealth and confidence should destroy it?
I really dislike the phrase “we all have the same 24 hours in a day”. I wake up at 6am, get my grandparents ready, make breakfast, work 9-6pm, cook dinner, tidy up and then study after 9pm or any other free moment I get. I can guarantee no 2 people have the same 24 hours. The perception of putting in the grind in order to be successful simply isn’t possible for some - I couldn’t possibly fit anymore work hours into my day if I tried and I’d consider myself a hard worker despite being on a 25k salary. I am resentful that other people have more “time” than me and are far more successful in their career but saying we have the same 24 hours is such a naive statement making other people feel guilty that they’re not as successful despite working the same hours, not having time for a social life etc.
Also success is subjective whats to say her lifestyle is better than your 25k salary I feel like just because it’s the public eye, success is attached to materialism
I’d love to see you revisit this in 10 years… I’m sure her answers will change! I was similar when I was 22 - desperate for more always. Now I realise that isn’t what life is truly about and to cherish relationships friendships & experiences
I don’t think that’s a fair thing to say because she has friendships and a relationship already that she values and invests in with time, and she clearly said when she has kids one day so her trajectory is satisfactory to her. Your comment implies she doesn’t have any of that, which is dishonest
This is so true! I used to more so have this mentality where as now I just don’t feel that need. I’m content and realise now that is not what brings happiness.
I particularly liked the part about her manager Fran, she sounds as though she has been key part to Molly's success and Molly acknowledges it knowing that it doesn't discredit her own achievements. I'd be interested to know how many other people have managers who don't get the same kind of appreciation within this industry.
Really well observed comment. I agree that Molly does share how important Fran has been to her growth and elevation from influencer to business woman. It’s inspiring to know that Molly has elevated her success with other great women by her side. The acknowledgment is reassuring and has made me realise sometimes bringing in new external energy and a fresh perspective on the industry can level you up so you can reach and achieve new goals ✨
@@ct9221 forget pakistan, what about the sweatshop workers earning £3.40/hr in Leicester in her own country making ugly fast fashion clothes for PLT which she herself is now the creative director for
@@ct9221 Also in Leicestershire, the sweat shops raided during lockdown paying £3.50 an hr and employing illegal immigrants to make garments for Boo Hoo. Pretty little thing is part of Boo Hoo.. She must be so proud of that too..
It’s lovely to hear Molly’s experience and I am honestly inspired by her drive. I do think it’s important to highlight that (20:23), not everyone would be on a level playing field leaving Love Island. I think it would be ignorant not to acknowledge that some people have an extra boost from things that are out of their control, like the colour of your skin for example. Being white is in reality an instant ‘privilege’, and an equally talented young black woman may have to try harder even if she won Love Island. Molly Mae is a young white English woman with an English accent. I think it’s just really important to acknowledge these things and not constantly be ‘yes men’ to everything that guests say on these shows, because we only truly learn and offer solutions and growth through challenging ourselves and each other.
I'm so glad someone mentioned this, I was thinking the exact same thing. It's easy to think that they're all on a level playing field because they've been on the same show, but certain privileges play a part in the opportunities you'll get access to :(
Totally second this. You are not on the same level playing field. She herself mentioned that she already had a platform unlike other housemate, the right manager which is key, not to count her appearance a skinny blonde white girl who already portrayed a certain lifestyle. There were many black girls on the show who experienced things molly mae haven’t experienced and let’s not forget Britain isn’t exactly open to diversity. A black person would have to an extent make themselves appealing and perhaps censor themselves to be accepted by a fraction of people.
I’m only 8 minutes in and I think if I watched this when I was also 20 or 22 I could 100% relate. I felt the need to prove my place in the world. I understand now being closer to 30 that choosing to live an “ordinary life” can be very meaningful. It’s incredible. There’s no greed involved and I’m not hungry for more constantly.
Ohhh bro I'm nearing 30 and at 21-22 I thought I was going to conquer the world, and then the world humbled me, my perpective, wants and needs have changed! I just want to live a happy secure life "Ordinary to most" it's very meaninful and it means so much to me to achieve this goal.
Hmm.. I disagree. I’m 24 (will be 25 soon) and I totally get how Molly feels cause I’m just in the grind phase of my life. I work super hard and just hustle, hustle, hustle. I don’t spend as much time as I want with family/friends cause I’d rather spend that time working… maximising myself. Brainstorming ideas for a new product or branch of my small business. Whilst I don’t agree with some of the things she said & her complete ignorance to privileges/sheer luck, I do share similar sentiment when it comes to hustling, working hard & wanting more. I don’t necessarily think it’s just an age thing, cause I’ve been this way since 20 and will probably be like this throughout the rest of my 20s.
I have always liked Molly Mae and find her to have a lovely demeanour but for her to say that she was "terrified" to have the life her parents did is quite insulting to the people who raised her. Some things are better left not said even if that is genuinely how you feel. Is shows how far removed from reality you have become that you would throw your own parents under a bus in a video that will be watched by thousands of people. She maybe didn't mean it like that but I found it disrespectful. Its not the first time i have heard her be like this either.
You’re right. She could have simply said that that type of life wasn’t meant to be for her because she wants something different. I don’t think she understands that we all have different goals and we don’t all want everything she has or her lifestyle. There are people happier with a much simpler way of life
I used to be in awe of Molly in a lot of ways, we are a similar age and I can’t even imagine what I’d do in her position. But I realise that I wouldn’t want her place because she is missing so much to life, in my view. We must think about the significance of doing everything you want and being unstoppable so you can tell your grandkids you did everything if all of it was for yourself. I want to tell my grandchildren that I changed something, I want to be able to tell them what I did in the face of injustice, how I loved and was loved, how I enjoyed life truly because I spent everyday learning to be humble and only wanting more experiences to learn more from life and make the world better. I don’t want the next generation to believe this is what life is about, that a million pounds isn’t enough- not because they need more to give to others but because it isn’t enough to sustain their greed. It’s not Molly’s responsibility to use her money or massive platform to make change but to feel no urge to use it for that is interesting to me. In a lot of ways she is profiting from oppression so I suppose I’m not surprised. She is where she is because of hard work but also because of privilege. You’re telling me the only reason a black influencer hasn’t made it to where they are through love island etc because of a difference in work ethic? Because they didn’t use their 24hours in the same way? There is a streak of nastiness I see in molly in her ignorance, she has the ability and education to know better and the way that she speaks about things in this interview is worrying to me. There are millions of people that work there arse off too, often in jobs much less payed and much less glamorous than an influencers, maybe the very workers for pretty little thing. Not everyone gets the choices she does, she’s clearly never have to worry about anything other than herself, I don’t blame her for this but I do think think there are so many people following her that want to be where she is and think life is about getting rich or die trying. Maybe she will live life never having to see the realities and never having to know what it is like to have enough, knowing what it’s like to feel fulfilled with nothing in the bank. I’m saying this purely because I want people to think. We all have the power to have incredible lives when we are kind and remember to measure success by ourselves and our impact on the world. When we leave this world we can taking nothing with us and the only lasting thing we can leave behind is the way we made others feel.
I agree with everything, I have loved Molly since love island but I really don’t think she came across well in this interview in my opinion 😓 it made me see a different side to her, I feel like if she constantly desires more and more it will eventually make her quite unhappy 🙁 I’m not hating on her at all I still look up to her, but it’s almost like she needs a bit of reality check maybe 😓
Yep more to life than money, it's that genuine uncontrollable laughter that you get when chatting to someone close. That's what we crave, meaningful connections.
When you’re older and you look back and talk to your kids - it won’t be about your achievements or how much money you made. It will be about the people you connected with and the memories you made with the people you love. I find Molly’s outlook in this video pretty sad and I find it cringe how out of touch her perspective is on why she is at where she is.
Yeah I knew a few people like this and very quickly I came to realise they were deeply unhappy under the surface. I think she’ll come to regret or rethink a lot of things she said in this.
My opinion on molly has changed so much after watching this. I always thought she was down to earth but she comes across as soooo greedy!! Such an anticlimax being a millionaire?! You need to live in the real world girl
Im only 20 min in and I can say its clear she is yet too young to understand that materialistic things don’t always equal true happiness. I watch her YT videos and she seems a lot more humble and innocent there compared to this interview.
She's 22 years old, its not that she's too young to understand, she's incredibly self absorbed, tone deaf and out of touch with the reality of ordinary folk.
@@kennawhitty5884 Your viewpoint is EXACTLY like the book of Ecclesiastes. You defined do not have to be religious to read it! But it's a great philosophical historian book!
that's why you need to watch the whole video, hit the just over 1 hour mark and she says herself that she has come to the realisation that materialistic things didn't have as much value as she thought
i love molly and find it fascinating to hear about her life, but I wouldn’t agree that confidence is something that you either have or don’t. Not everyone is born with that as an innate part of their personality and for many successful people it takes time and effort to build
I was looking for this comment! I couldn’t agree more! Confidence is something you can work on and build so for her to literally say ‘you can’t build confidence’ kind of blew my mind a bit.. great that’s she’s confident naturally but that’s not a nice message to send out to young girls who might not be as confident! If you’re reading this and feeling low in confidence right now, I promise you it is something you CAN build! I had low confidence in my twenties and after being cheated on and breaking up with someone when I was 27, I decided to go traveling and made some positive and healthy changes to my diet and lifestyle and my confidence boomed so much. ❤️
Yeah that comment made me go 'what the hell?'. Building confidence is part of everyone's personal growth journey and we all reach it at different times and different phases of our life. Confidence can also come and go, it's not always a constant
I do watch Molly-mae and she seems really sweet, I understand that she will want to prove to everyone that she has worked hard and deserves what she has. There’s no doubt that she has worked hard. But the reason people come for rich people who say “we all have the same 24 hours” is because we literally don’t? We all have 24 hours in a day, but definitely not the same 24 hours. Someone like molly who has a caring family, and her caring parents are also police officers with comfortable salaries, already have a COMPLETELY different 24 hours to a massive % of the population before they even start their journey to becoming famous. Why can’t people just accept that they have major privilege. Also, it has been discussed by black women who have been on love island that they make less money in general compared to white women from the show. Black women from the show are treated differently by the public which is something most of us can see, so there definitely isn’t a level playing field either.
Totally agree with this. We all have 24hours in the day, but ive never had any parents to rely on at all, no stability, no back up plan. For some its alot easier than others x
@@TheBeautyConclusion exactly! She was already about 1000 steps ahead of the likes of you and I just by coming from the background she comes from. I’d respect her more if she would just accept the privilege has. Even when first starting her ig page, she had access to a safe home, electricity, appliances to record herself on, access to fashion and accessories to show off etc. That’s already more than what a lot of people have. I could go on forever really x
@@leigh1220 her parents r divorced tho? Her mum got married recently to someone else From what I know… So doesn’t that explain she must’ve faced some difficulty in her life growing up it’s not always happy days but I see what u mean
@@xnm2754 I definitely don’t think that she hasn’t faced any difficulty in life, just that she comes from a privileged background and does not have the same 24 hours as a lot of people (eg the high numbers of people in the uk alone who live in poverty). It is problematic for her to act like it is a level playing field. I get what you’re saying though, of course she’s had difficulty and she has worked hard too, I wouldn’t deny that
This is the realest she’s been. She’s not trying to be nice, she’s not trying to sugar coat, just saying it as it is and I LOVE IT this is what inspiration looks like.
she's just money hungry. the main reason she got to where she is that she is a young pretty white girl. she didn't really earn her beauty or skin colour did she? It's easy to "hustle" when anything you post on social media blows up because you have the "right look". What qualifies her to be a creative director? People study for years for a job like this either as an intern, apprentice or at college but PLTt doesn't care about that they want a 22 year old with zero experience lol. The only reason she got the creative director role is the MEN at PLT find her attractive and know she will bring in more customers - the job title is irrelevant she's there as a face to bring in more customers...lesson = be a young, pretty white girl, post a lot on social media and men will start to pay you to sell stuff...
Tbf I'm surprised I went to school with her. She is so different from the girl I went to school with. I find it so funny she says we all have 24 hours in a day and it is what we do with it but I have 2 disabled children one more severely who I have to care for I can't work proper hours because of all their specialist appointments, I work at my family business yeah it pays the bills but I'm not living comfortably, but to be fair I wouldn't change it for the world I would rather live like I am than have loads of money because she is so delusional on real world things, like mother's working with kids I can't risk making my kids comfortable and having everything they need to chase fame and basically risk their security.
@@kaede1093 well done for providing the best life you can for your children. Your example is the exact reason that Mollys tone deaf comments have outraged so many people. We simply do not all have the freedom to ‘work harder’ and post a picture on Instagram and earn more from that one post than what one person might earn in a year working 12 hour days. Stevens comments around the outrage being due to her gender is a kick in the stomach to feminism and is totally misguided.
@@Janicesaheed I'm not saying she's saying it to poor people I'm saying she doesn't realise a we all don't have the same 24 hours in the day, I work my ass off but I'm a single mother of 2 disabled children my commitments and priorities are elsewhere, I think where she got famous she completely lost sight of that people have different things going on and can't just drop everything to try and be famous if that's their dream
Her role as 'creative director' is 100% a complete token gesture. How can you just step into a role like that with no experience of working your way up in the fashion/design world? I guarantee there are people working behind the scenes that actually do all the work and don't get any of the credit.
I'm sorry but this is such an ageist comment. If she happened to be older, or if she was a man, this wouldn't even be a thought. Teyana Taylor is the CD for PLT in America and both of these women have major influence, impeccable style and appeal to a broad audience. Molly embodies PLT's target audience. This is a 9 figure/year company, it goes without saying that there is a team behind anyone in a creative director role but since she was chosen, she must be doing something right. Molly is inspiring for chasing her dreams and believing in herself enough to be where she is.
@@amoxzi she did the equivalent of A Levels, FRA is for 16 year olds who know nothing about fashion. That's like saying someone who does physics at A Level can build a NASA telescope
She’s completely missed the mark here. It’s great that she’s appreciative of her life rn but she refuses to acknowledge the privilege she really has. Love island made Molly mae hague, it wasn’t just an extra boost. She’s very very young, she has not experienced real struggles. She does not appreciate the ordinary female who has to work their ass off with 0 privelages and it’s so ignorant. I hope she reflects on this.
@@anthonyze i think Klassrisa understands that everyone has struggles cos that is apart of being human having mental and physical struggles, nor do i think klassrisa was judging molly mae but pointing out things she has said and how she has come across to those that have had privilege and financial struggles in the system we live in. Even if you know anyone personally how much do you really know about anyone other than how they present themselves to you or others and how much does one really know themself?.....
@@anthonyze they didn’t say she hasn’t struggled, just that her struggles are not the same as most peoples so it’s not fair for her to suggest that ‘if people were to utilise their time differently they’d be just as successful as she is if only they had the drive’. That type of perspective requires a specific amount of privilege to uphold because it is formed through a disconnection from the reality of working class peoples lives and struggles. It is absolutely necessary to be critical of these opinions and there’s a valid reason she’s met backlash here.
@@osaren5125 yes I know it’s dreadful and I know that. I don’t support these labour practices and I recognise that I’m privileged to be able to buy a phone. I also don’t believe that the labourers who built my phone are only in that factory because they don’t work hard enough and can simply achieve millionaire status if they just worked harder. That’s not how the world works. Life is not a meritocracy as Molly Mae would have people believe.
@@05jgardner You say you dont support the practices but you still use the device? my point is that lets not be hypocrites and act holier than thou. A lot of people have taken what she said out of context ( a 60 second clip from a 2 hour podcast from 3 weeks ago). The same people relentlessly mocking her will be the same to have #bekind in their bio if she harmed herself
@@osaren5125 yeh but I’m not creative director of apple. I have watch the podcast. Be kind whilst noble is not a shield to be misused. I’m sure that she is getting some hideous abuse which I don’t condone but the lion share of criticism is valid.
@@osaren5125 Can’t compare smart phones to this as you can get bags and bags of PLT clothes for extremely cheap. Some girl got £2000 worth of PLT clothes for £11 brand new….
She seems like a very nice and sweet girl (and we can't forget how young she is) but one thing I have really picked up from this interview is her obsession with material objects and obtaining these being a reflection of 'success' in her eyes. As a lawyer, I recognise success as truly making a difference in the world. I think it is very important that we bring up the younger generation with the idea that bringing about real change and justice is far more important than chasing status or vast amounts of wealth. Hopefully she will learn this in the future and be able to use her platform to bring about some real good to a world in desperate need of it ☺️
I love Molly Mae and I think her work ethic is amazing. However, I do worry that her constant thirst for more is going to lead her to a very miserable life. I hope one day she is able to see that acquiring more materialistic things does not define happiness. There is a deep rooted issue she needs to address. I suspect this will come with burn out, being lonely and being unhappy in everything she does. With that being said, good luck Molly!
From watching Molly Mae on youtube, her appeal and likability come from her innocent, open very positive view towards life and people. It is quite sad and troubling listening to this podcast to hear how much she references making money and becoming successful. I guess that is her job as an "influencer" to engage and sell us the world she lives in...however this podcast in my opinion shows that she is much sharper and not quiet as innocent as she portrays.....
@@mensroompodcast I don't see the problem with this? She minds the business that pays her... you don't see her in mess on the blogs or in any type of mix up.. All we see of her is making moves. When you start making money and living a type of lifestyle, of course you would want to keep it up and want more. Molly seems to live her life the way she wants too and we shouldn't bash her for that.
She’s contradicted herself in this saying we all have the same opportunities but also said she’s always been really confident and is blessed to be that way. Confidence plays a huge part for people, some people don’t have the confidence to up and move their lives to a different town or even go to a job interview somewhere else, some people are crippled with anxiety when it comes to stuff like that and then don’t get the job or whatever.
Not only that but she said you either have it or you don’t, and that it’s not something you can build on. If she believed that then how can she think we all have equal opportunities? She hasn’t given it much thought. Love Steven’s podcasts though and I don’t like that she’s getting so much hate.
@@footballequalslife7452 it’s not impossible but it can be extremely difficult for a lot of people. Some people have crippling anxiety that holds them back from a lot of opportunities, for example.
Really do enjoy her work ethic, but to say we all have the same 24 hours to get what we want is easier for her to say compared to others. Frankly, no, some underprivileged people don’t have the freedom, agency and disposable income to spread certain risks in life to venture into different life journeys or careers.
She got to where she was because she was luckily selected to go on love island. That’s it. She luckily got picked over thousands of women to go on the lost popular game show in the country.
@@SpitfireMLG Just so bitter man I really do feel sorry for you in feeling this way. As soon as you realise that literally ANYONE can make a success of themselves in 2022 using social media, the better. You seriously don't believe "that's it" do you? She's clearly put in so much more work, I just wish people would stop hating on successful people. Such a shame man
@@myronlearns do you think everyone wants to put themselves on social media for the whole world to judge them for money. or show their ass on realty tv yh if that’s the case molly did put in so much work by luckily getting selected to go on a reality tv show at random and getting a boosted celebrity status from it. such hard work man.
I think she’s speaking from her own truth and experiences. Obviously this is her opinion, and truth, and it’s not for everyone. It’s okay, If you disagree. And the life other people want look, different from what she wants. to the extent, you can, I do feel you can create the life you want. It doesn’t have to be so big. For example it can be to be healthy, and do things that bring your joy.
I’m disabled , suffer with chronic pain & I’ve suffered with mental health issues since I was 14 ( I’m 23 now ) yet I’ve worked in the NHS since I was 17. I would bloody love to see Molly last 5 mins in an actual job.
I’m sorry to hear you’re suffering with these things, I hope you are okay. Just wanted to say you are a prime example of how much Molly’s words can hurt for someone like yourself. Your chronic pain must make everything you do so much harder than someone without a medical condition. Your dedication to help others, has meant that you’re spending your time doing very crucial work with the NHS rather than spending your time posting pictures wearing designer clothes and getting fillers hoping to be liked by enough people that you can make a million. It’s nuts that some people don’t realise that in a capitalist world there’s NO way every single person can just up and change their ‘24 hours’ to become a millionaire. All she had to do was say one short simple sentence like ‘this doesn’t necessarily apply to everyone, there’s obviously a level of privilege that comes to play, but everyone can definitely strive to try their best within the realms of what they’re able to access and draw upon in life’. Ugh.
@@robertat.8817 you can work as a healthcare support worker (auxilliary nurse), a phlebotomist, a domestic, a ward clerk, a porter, a kitchen assistant... all of these jobs would be accessible at 17.
This wasn’t a challenging interview by any means but it did show aspects of her character that are undesirable. The greed, never being satisfied with what you have, friends seem dispensable apart from her manager , she lived in Hitchin for 18 years then just left on her own and left all her friends behind. Quite ruthlessly ambitious I would say but fair play. However, if she’s never satisfied she won’t truly ever be happy or content
I think being unsatisfied because you want to push yourself to what you know you can achieve is a bit different than being unsatisfied because nothing you do makes you happy or makes you want to stop and settle. It’s unfair of you to suggest those things out of envy for her work ethic. Why would she stop, she’s only 22.
Hey Steven, I'm a long time listener of your podcast and it really has added a great deal of value to my conversations, and my life. I really respect you, and everything that you've achieved. However, based on your commitment to Jordan to be truthful, I have a question for you. How can you, on the one hand, talk about your 'commitment to being more sustainable' and your sponsorship with Octopus Energy but on the other, have the opportunity to interview the Creative Director of one of the biggest fast fashion brands in the world and not bring up the planetary destruction that they're causing? Was this out of fear? Because it was too difficult? Because you don't actually care about the planet? I'd really appreciate understanding your thinking behind this.
Lol. its all for the image. whatever's trendy at the time. Octopus energy are a whole other story but its all a gimmick to jump on the sustainability bandwagon
Molly and Steven are charlatans, they don’t believe a word they say, Steven is cringeworthy unauthentic in his delivery, everything is so scripted and premeditated that you know it’s coming from a disingenuous place and Molly doesn’t believe she’s worked her arse off to get where she is, if you know anything about body language you can see that a mile off.
I have decided to binge watch every episode and as an ADHD I am really fixated into not skipping but although it’s impressive that the guests is so young and has achieved much! this interview is a so « me, me, me » interview 💔
It makes me so sad that she doesn’t have any friends! I’ve always liked molly but it seems like she wants to grow up too quickly. Having friends is one of the most important and fulfilling part of life. I wouldn’t trade my friends for any money!
I agree and find it very sad , but i don’t feel sorry for her as i think she came across very harsh and sounds like she’s the problem she says “i haven’t got the time” and that she’s lazy with it and can’t ‘relate’ to her old friends anymore, seems like she’s putting herself on a pedestal
People don’t understand that when you have friends you have to put effort into it even if they are different phases than you. She probably prioritized work over friends and maybe doesn’t want to admit she might be at fault for her friendships being long lasting but it does take maturity on her end given she’s in a higher position than her friends. You have to meet them halfway otherwise the friendship can slowly fade out. And I mean with respectfully
Some people prefer having a small group of friends as opposed to large ones. Some people also have mental health difficulties such as social anxiety or may be introverts. Not everyone desires having fake friends or are able to afford the price of being betrayed or backstabbed by an untrue ‘friend’.
Decided to re-watch this again and I'm still in awe of Molly-Mae. I can't understand how people don't like her. She is an incredible woman with a heart of gold, and I'm so excited to continue watching her grow.
I think there's a difference between happiness and gratitude. It's clear she's able to step back, look at what she's created and be super excited for her younger self who wanted all of it, but that's not the same thing as happiness. You can be grateful and still deeply unhappy. And I think as long as there's the mindset of 'more, more, more', you'll sadly never experience true happiness. Happiness can only be found in the present moment. It's not in some imaginary future place. Because by the time that future place comes, it's the present moment again! Anyway - 22 is still super young in the grand scheme of things. I sure as hell didn't know this shit when I was 22, and I'm sure I would have said and thought all the same things. Props to her for her incredible achievements! I think she's awesome x
Totally agree ...as you grow up u realise this ...humans chase things but are never satisfied...being in the present moment ...giving to people less fortunate ...is what makes you happy ...people who chase things all the time end up getting anxiety....but with age most of us learn this
Yes! We must try and see the present as such a privilege. To live in this exact moment, appreciate it. I saw a quote once that said the past and future are not real. All we have is the present so love that we are here now and that will be enough
Completely agree! Happiness is not an end goal or a destination. It is impossible to always be happy 100% of the time and unfortunately social media creates a false impression that people are all the time. Life is a journey, there's good and bad along the way. It's good to work towards the future and have aspirations but learning to enjoy the present and being happy in that very moment is a great skill in itself. Mindfulness is key in a present moment. Life is like a journey of endless moments.
I find it so ironic how she follows up the statement about “always wanting more” with “money doesn’t bring happiness” and “I’m the happiest I’ve ever been”. Contradictory much? I’ve nothing against her since I barely know who she is but if money was not the part of the equation, she would not be in this chair. If her work was not commercially successful, she would not get the conveyor belt of opportunities she has currently, and likely would not be “the happiest she’s ever been” because her life would be as ordinary as yours or mine. I don’t understand why influencers dismiss the role that money plays in their lives when it literally enables them to do what they like.
Wanting more doesn’t always equate to money. People want more for their career, relationships, etc. You can be happy in your current state but also have dreams of doing more. Im happy being a student but I want more in my life. It’s like looking forward to the next chapter. It is not always about money.
@@rackellsouza9640 she literally said “all I wanted is to have £1 million in my bank account and as soon as I hit it, that’s it, I want £2 million now”. Clearly money isn’t the last thing on her priority list
She’s trying to humble and strong but u can see she’s at stage where she’s searching for that eternal happiness because she legit got everything but same time she’s probably confusing it with wanting more as a mechanism to change that just like all these millionaires do
There’s a lot to unpack here. Firstly, she is only 22. While it’s commendable she’s reached this point in her career already, there’s still an immaturity about her and a lot to learn. I think if she revisits this interview even in a year her answers to these questions will be quite different. At 21 I felt very mature, intelligent and ahead of my years and to an extent I was, but even at the young age of 25 I look back at me then and realise I was wrong about a lot of things. And I will be again. Secondly, I can relate to her always wanting more and striving to tick off goals, however in my experience it didn’t make me happy. As soon as I achieved one thing, I didn’t sit with it and appreciate it enough. Like her, I was already planning what to do next. Achieving it didn’t mean as much to me as wanting it. Tick boxing your life doesn’t make you happy. In fact it makes you quite depressed. The stories she wants to tell of what she’s achieved, what she’s earned and who she’s met won’t really impress people around her either. People older, wiser and more mature than her will have already worked out its not as important as she thinks. I always wanted recognition and rarely got it. The “ordinary” life she’s so terrified of having at 22 is all I want now and I’m only a few years older. Thirdly, yes we do all have 24 hours in a day and if you do want something badly enough you can make it happen. However, we’re not all on a level playing field just because the only thing we have in common is 24 hours. With my background, I felt like I’ve had to work twice as hard just to achieve what some of my peers already had given to them. From my background, a roof over your head, a full time job, a car and money in the bank account wasn’t our ordinary. That was the goal. She is too privileged to understand poverty and how difficult it is to get out of it. If you are homeless, you do not have an address. If you don’t have an address, how do you get a job or a bank account? If you don’t have a job or bank account, how do you get an address? The cycle goes round and round. What she has gained in wealth and power she lacks in maturity, gratitude and happiness. Everything she does is an opportunity that’s presented to her, the rest of us have to try and create opportunities, not have the luxury of flicking through 800 emails a day and choosing what we fancy.
1:09 her example of how she works so hard is all she can fit in the day is "I work, spend time with my boyfriend and go to bed" you know like every other working person on the planet, except jobs with longer hours like nursing etc. Who incitently earn a lot less than her for a much harder job. Or where you're in a position where your partner has to do nights and your doing days meaning you don't see each other at all, although they are normally to always the poorest in society as that's the only reason you would go through that. But she works hard trust
I normally love your podcasts Steven, got a ticket for your show... but I was hoping you were going to delve deeper into Molly's views on how PLT are corrupting the planet and exploitation of people? It's all over the news recently so don't know how this wasn't brought up?
I feel so good to hear someone like me in the fact that I don't need a lot of friends, get along with a lot of people but I don't consider them friends! So happy to see a young woman with ambition.
Not a fan of this girl at all, neither do I find her very inspirational but I did watch. I found her thoughts on friendship revealing. I agree with her, some people do not add anything valuable to your life, which is why you have to be particular about friendships I’ve found. I do think however, she seems to place value on money, making money and material objects which is probably why she doesn’t see the value in meaningful friendships which do exist if you want them. That’s quite sad and short sighted in a way, but she is young.
How do you get meaningful friendships? She obviously comes from the working class, she thinks money will make her, and has found all her former working class friends hate her for now having money. When she realises material obkects are mostly meaningless maybe she'll change her view, but how the hell would she, or anyone, make freinds with better people, it's not easy coming from her position, I know..
I still like her. While it’s impossible to agree with what everyone says, I don’t agree with everything she says, and that’s okay. We can disagree with someone and still treat them with kindness. And nor dehumanise them
The fact that she travels the world, makes money whilst she sleeps, inspires millions at 22 is something I will never get over. Here I am, almost 7 years older than her, disabled, under-employed, in debt and unarranged overdraft, traumatised,abused,bullied,diseased, failed, suffering a lot with not even a license never mind a car, and have no support system around me. I am a victim of many hardships too. When I listen to youngsters of this calibre, I am geneuinely in awe but mostly JEALOUS! I wish I was never born. How can I ever be liked in a world where juniors are so far accelerated above me? Ahhh Molly Mae, damn you for your perfection!
Yeah well life's not fair. People like molly mae are exceptionally lucky people and not the norm. You know that I'm sure. In any case, you probably already know you shouldn't compare yourself with others, but find inspiration where you can. Admittedly, molly may hasn't provided much of that here imo, especially to those who are not already privileged in the way she has been. I'm sorry to hear all the hardships you have to endure, but hope you can derive inspiration from other people from various backgrounds who have achieved different types of success (not always marked financial success btw) and even more so have shown they can fully appreciate what they already have in life along the way. That all said a bit jealousy is normal too so nothing to beat yourself over. As long as we don't dwell on it, and switch our attention to appreciating and moving forward best as we can. Sorry if my comment sounds bland or whatever, but I saw your comment and it looked a bit sad and hopeless. Best of luck you
I don't usually comment on videos but watching this has made me feel quite depressed about where I am in life at 25 comparing, which I know I shouldn't, but to Molly Mae who is 22 achieved so much and still not satisfied with where she is ... I love Molly Mae and how honest she is dont get me wrong but this made me sad because although we do have 24 hours in a day we arent given the same opportunities or dealt the same hand ...
Hey babe - just read this and it made me sad that watching this made you sad. We aren’t all given the same opportunities because that’s just life. Whatever you are currently working on in terms of a career or skill that you have just make sure you harbour and invest into making the best out of it! No matter what it is! This interview is to inspire others & to remind people not to be lazy & put yourself in a position to be seen so that the opportunities come to you! I’m 29 about to be 30 and I can tell you right now that when I was 22 I probably thought like Molly. As you get older you realise what’s most important in this life - your family, having great friends & good health! I wish you all the best hun! Enjoy life! xx
Babe, just know that worthiness does not come from money, clothes etc etc. Molly is NOT the standard. If feeling depressed by this strange ultra capitalist social media bubble, my (humble) advice is delete all social media - give it a few weeks and come back to them and more carefully select people to follow who make you feel affirmed, motivated, but also social and politically conscious. Molly Mae is so so so not it.
Oh hunny! That’s so sad 🥺. Don’t compare yourself to others, only compare yourself to the previous version of yourself. Bare in mind, Molly is the exception, not the rule. That’s not to say you can’t achieve the same level of ‘success’ of her, ofcourse you can. But she doesn’t represent the majority or average person. So comparing yourself to her is futile. I’m 24 (will be 25 soon) and I defo don’t feel satisfied with where I’m at either but that’s my motivation to keep pushing, grinding and working harder. Hard (& smart) work pays off. Don’t feel discouraged. If anything, Molly Mae (and many other rich celebrities) is that proof anything is possible. Anyone can be successful, whatever that means to you. Set SMART tangible goals for YOU & work towards them every day. You’re still so young so you have so much time. Then review those goals every year. Celebrate your wins and see what you can improve 💕
She's just a little obsessed with financial success and gains. Which you have to be if you wanna reach that level. But numbers are endless & if you put too much emphasis on it you'll never be happy, think of it as something to strive or have your own milestones , comparing is okay but keep in mind everyone's situation is different. For me :a roof over your head , couple of genuine friends & meaningful relationships, enough money to get by & some warm cooked food is a blessing. Good luck to you though. I'm sure you'll make it.
The confident thing Molly said is wrong, u CAN build confidence you’re not just born with it like she said. I’ve seen many shy people change to VERY confident like u don’t just HAVE it. You can have it but you can also build it.
Yes! Confidence is a skill and you learn it as you grow up. She is confident because she grew up in a healthy (ish) environment and with privileges. If you are being abused as a child for many years, you end up with low self-esteem and many problems with how you perceive yourself. You can gain that confidence back with some help with therapy but you also need to be privileged to even access that help.
As a creative director for a major fashion brand, someone told me to watch this, and it's one of the funniest things I've seen for a while. Just to clear up for people who are watching this, the role of a "Creative Director", is not as glamorous as you may think. I have 12 designers including a Design Manager report into me, as well as a team of 6 in marketing, and a marketing manager, along with a photography manager who uses multiple freelance photographers, oh and 2 girls who are known as bookers, who are in charge of booking models, which I have to sign off via Finance every month and keep the whole show in budget. I work my fucking ass of everyday, including weekends and holidays. My role to glue design/marketing and photography and styling together and push the brand foward and hit key looks and trends. I wake up at 5am and I stop working at 11pm. In constant convo's with factories/studios/models & photographers all around the world. Covid has been a nightmare due to not being able to travel, so the past 24 months has been hell. Ive worked in the indsutry for 19 years, from a scrotty graduate who thought he was the bollocks to now. This girl is a marketing tool, thats all. she has no idea what she is talking about. But shes pretty, so let her make her money, and there will be more after her. Peace and Love x
I agree to some extend. You're right about that she's a marketing tool and it's a really clever move from PLT. The thing is that she speaks about it quite openly, there's mixture of being proud and confident about herself but there's also the humility to say 'im there as a consumer with fresh point of view, I have no idea about many things they tak about'. And just as Steven pointed out, him and her have been in situations where they felt stupid on meetings, but clearly they bring value there because otherwise they would't be there. Obviously she has a crowd of followers but after listening to this podcast and seeing how hardworking and driven she is I'm sure she is bringing much more to the table. It's a win-win situation, fresh outlook on how to do business in the modern / social media world.
Thought it was very telling when Steve asked her "how is your creative director role different to what you did before" she couldn't and didn't really answer it. Just cleverly swerved it because she knows she isn't really doing anything like a full day at an office. Just literally the same stuff as before, posting photos online and promoting herself + products. She doesn't have a clue about " hard work". She's got all the people in PLT doing all the real work for her. And like you said, she just markets stuff at her own leisure. It really annoys me that celebrities claim " hard work". They are smart in how they do things but their input is actually very little compared to the average persons work day. She just said she "gives advise and opinions on stuff" girl, that ain't a full time job 😂
I like her& follow her channel& thought she was genuinely humble but after this, not so sure. I still like her but I’m now wondering who she really is. I think she says stuff because she knows it will make her sound a certain way; eg to sound boss girl& savage(seeing friends as waste of time) or the flip side being all fake humble(happiness comes from within& then say she wants more money)& dismissing the inequities of this world by the inanely dishonest “we all have the same 24 hours”. I like her but honestly I’m 21 soon & at varsity & can’t imagine talking like I’ve worked all my life when all she’s done is work hard for last 4 years maximum taking photos& shooting vlogs…like she’s gassing herself up like she’s earned it all because she’s brilliant. I don’t know this interview is weird man, I’m embarrassed for her…she knows so little but think she’s figured it all out. She’s 22 and it sounds it…there only are only a handful prodigies in the world & she’s definitely not one of them…she’s succeeded in a new industry(social and digital influencer) so fast, not be she’s the hardest working influencer 22yr old out there , it’s a bit of luck& loads of white privilege especially post Love Island(which she now also dismisses)😑
Molly might do well researching equity & equality & how we can’t have one without the other because her comments in regards to ‘having the same 24hrs’ & ‘all the islanders being on same level playing field’ is almost laughable if it wasn’t so sad that she she is totally blind to how untrue those comments are.
She said money and materialistic things doesn’t make her happy, but just before that she said 1 million wasn’t enough and her new house isn’t big enough
Some things said in this interview are definitely very ignorant from Molly. I used to be a really big fan of hers but recently have definitely changed my mind. Seems to me that she’s just concerned about her career and the money she’s making. with a massive platform she doesn’t really use it for any good or raising any awareness for current issues happening but only to advertise and support PLT which is an unethical brand.
Another great episode and rather insightful but was expecting a bit more depth to be honest. I don’t agree that when everyone comes out of Love Island you are all on a level playing field. A big part of that (in my opinion) is the way they are perceived on the show, how much they are shown etc. I think diversity is also a big thing and that can make a big difference, from what I’ve seen, in terms of how well some do and don’t when they leave. Hard work is important but everything else plays a part
when she says she always wants more she means with like work and business. doesnt mean she’s not happy and content with where she is now it just shows she has a really good work ethic.
She says life isn’t about money, then literally a couple of minutes later said she doesn’t enjoy going out with friends because she’d rather be thinking of ways to make money… what a hypocrite. This interview is full of hypocrisy and coinciding comments.
Turning 30 next year I had the same mindset at 22. All I ever wanted to do was succeed in what I was doing. This very second I’m planning on leaving the job I’ve built for so long because I’ve been so blind to what satisfies me. I’ll never get what I’m looking for trying to be the best I can in a job role. I need to be the best I can be in my existence. Work and money isn’t happiness. It’s a sense of accomplishment which doesn’t seem to be fulfilled. No lie though, she knows exactly how to do what she’s doing
@@Rose_19911 She is ignorant. She screams about 'the same 24 hours we all have to be successful blah blah' she also went on a tv show which heightened her career, which put her onto where she is now. She was also given opportunities the average person would not. A lot of us have real responsibilities where we can't afford to work instead of sleep. She needs to recognise her privilege, she's a white woman who went on love island, of course she will be somewhat successful.
I really love her. She’s a smart girl, she knows what she’s doing and I praise her for that. I’m so pleased she listened to her close ones and reversed her cosmetic procedures before it became irreversible. Also love how focussed she is on business and reaching her goals. She’s brilliant 🤩
me too, i absolutely admire and look up to Molly. She’s so smart with her mindset and i’m the same in the sense i have a small circle and try and work on just me, and it can be so challenging without social media, press and paparazzi in the mix. I think she’s incredible in how she handles everything and how mature she is. honestly love her ❤️
She's not smart. She didn't know what a mortgage or gross profit is, and she's 22. She's only gotten to where she is solely for her looks and privilege.
It’s all about money. Many celebrities don’t actually talk like this in interviews “I must make money all my life.” They just talk about what they love doing and life in general without the pay cheque. Without shouting out I’m a millionaire like this interview did.
I'm usually a big fan of this podcast and have listened to all the episodes. Thank you for making some amazing content over the years. This was an interesting chat and Molly Mae came across as relatable (being 22 I think she's allowed to have some contradictions and not be certain on everything yet.) However, I have felt recently that some episodes (including this one, also Anne Boden and David Gandy) have had pre approved areas that can / can't be discussed with a PR team or manager. I think the original success of the podcast was built on us feeling like it was the most honest and in-depth interview that we would have heard with this person, and I'd love for future episodes to try and retain that. In this episode, it felt like obvious questions around fast fashion and the contradictions Molly Mae made were avoided (possibly in the interests of making this positive PR for her.) I think there can be a balance, where guests are made to feel comfortable, but still answer difficult questions to make us get a good understanding of their different complex characters and feelings. Often such honestly and vulnerability can help us warm to them more. This is often achieved (in episodes like the brilliant Patrice Evra one) so it's not intended as a major criticism, it's more a suggestion around how the best possible content can be made for future episodes- asking guests to be as open as possible and not having areas they can avoid. Thank you for consistently sharing new content and the range of guests that have come on recently.
Such a good bit of feedback. They’re better off not interviewing someone at all, than interviewing them through a filtered lens. Completely eradicates the authenticity that originally made this podcast so compelling.
Molly is promoting fast fashion an industry with huge ethical concerns that nothing is being done about e.g sweatshop labour, mistreatment of workers in the UK and abroad - bad conditions and extremely low pay (the garments are so cheap for a reason). Environmental issues- fabrics being made in developing countries in factories that dump toxic chemicals into waterways that millions rely on so they are becoming sick with cancer and other diseases, huge seas are drying up because of the amount of water needed. As the top influencer in uk she has directly caused a huge increase in popularity of this destructive industry pushing it onto millions of young followers. I don't buy her nice act at all, she said herself will go to any length to get what she wants, at the expense and suffering of others clearly very selfish. Disappointed Steven didn't call this out given the sustainable sponsor of the video, its very hypocritical and if he's friends with plt founder then he should question his morals and stop sucking up to these money hungry people
She’s 22? It’s not one persons (a 22 year olds) responsibility to dictate a company’s practices. You don’t know the impact or conversations she’s bringing to the table.
@@laurasayer3360 but she's the head of this company, she can definitely make a difference. If she cared at all, she wouldn't even be working for them. She clearly only cares about money and not about anyone or anything else
@@lucysutton7420 I know it may seem that way, but Pretty Little Thing has a huge board of directors - there’s around 11 in total, and that’s only the directors! Although the media may make this job title sound incredibly important, Molly really will have little to no say in organisational practices. 22 is so young and this may not be her path forever, and yes PLT practices are incredibly destructive (I have never purchased from them) but why does society find it so uncomfortable when a women vocalises she is driven by money?
@@laurasayer3360 I'm not saying it's bad she's motivated by money. It's just that's all she's motivated by. It sounds like the reason she doesn't have friends is because she can't make money from having friends and also saying that she didn't want what her parents have. Which is a very middle class happy life just shows she's never gonna be happy cause she always wants more. Which in my opinion is an awful way to be and also super disrespectful to her parents who clearly grafted in the police and she was dismissing their jobs.
I really liked Molly Mae until I watched this podcast, because I feel like some of the comments that she makes about particular questions come across quite insensitive and almost slightly deluded. First of all, we can all appreciate that Molly has done well for herself since coming out of Love Island, and has put herself out there into the industry a lot more then many of the other people to come off of that show, but it is not just hard work that got her into this position, she went on one of the biggest reality TV shows with one of the biggest audiences and the guy she coupled up with is Tyson Fury's brother who is very well known. These factors, as much as she doesn't like to admit it openly, contribute DRAMATICALLY to her success. She has used the position that she was in after coming off of the show very wisely and used that to make a name for herself, and no one is disputing that but she needs to be a bit more open and honest with her audience, and even with herself about where her success really came from and what factors contributed to it. There is also the issue of her talking about having a small circle and seeing friends as a "waste of time" which I completely disagree with. Yes making money and being financially stable and self sufficient are very important, but when you don't have people to then share that success and freedom with, surely that is very lonely and isolating. You can still be ambitious and achieve your goals in business while maintaining good friendships, and if everyone else seems to be able to balance that then why can't she?. And then the final thing is when she is talking about us "all having the same 24 hours in a day" which is so completely false and shows such a huge sense of privilege it is actually unbelievable. How can she sit there and say that while being the creative director of a brand that pays their workers less then the minimum wage, and is one of the biggest contributions to the fast fashion industry and sells such poor quality items. These workers can barely afford to feed their families, while she makes millions a year being an influencer and going on all these brand trips and living in nice apartments and always buying designer items and never having to worry about when her next meal is going to come or how she will make it through the month, yet they supposedly have the same 24 hours? just is not right at all.
She is too immature to have a child too. I don't think she even knows who she is yet. Imagine bringing a kid up to believe that friends are a waste of time
This woman is unbelievably cocky, having the audacity to say that she didn't need Love Island to succeed. She enjoys the life and privileges that she does, largely thanks to Love Island. She is a shockingly bad influence on young women. She would never want the ordinary life she had before...it's like she looks down on ordinary people, who do ordinary jobs that keep society afloat... She doesn't value friendships...what a shallow person. I hope her bubble isn't going to burst and that she will be a happy person in future...but I fear that her fans who idolise her and aspire to be like her to and attain her level of success and the "idyllic lifestyle" she leads, realise that we do not all have the same 24 hours in a day in the way she imagines. This girl had had a charmed life. She has had it easy all along, a comfortable upbringing, good looks etc. and Love Island was the platform which elevated her to the dizzy heights of privilege, success and luxury in which she finds herself now.
Also hrr saying confidence is not something u can build on is utter bullshit... shes clearly ignorant and shallow minded... if it wasnt for love island just like she falled at performing arts, she wouldnt have had the same level of sucess she has now....
With the more and more comment, I would say anyone in their early 20s would relate to because you're so excited and want that adventure. You are just so intrigued by what is out there and you want to explore everything. Your 20s can be quite impulsive and impatient but with age and growth a person learns to become stable and more calm
I’m at the 12 minute mark. Molly talks about her confidence and it’s something you’re born with and not something you build on. I hope I didn’t misinterpret because I don’t think that’s necessarily correct. You can build your confidence as you accomplish things. Otherwise there’s no hope for anyone!
i’ve always found it incredible how even though i never and will probably never have any where near how much money molly has she’s always seemed so relatable to me and inspiring
I'm really disappointed in this. I don't agree with most of what she says, particularly the rubbish about how we all have the same 24 hours in a day, which just proves to me how drastically out of touch she is with reality. I understand why you got MM on, but she really offers very little insight at all into success. She became massive due to Love Island and she is so self absorbed that it's very hard to like her. I'm sure she is a nice person but I don't agree with what she says, at all.
Exactly my thoughts, her confidence contradicts what she is saying, and also attributes from a stable life growing up which most of the population would not have had
Majority of the UK population come from two parent households with jobs... it's not really a particular advantage. It's not like she was born into wealth.
I have to agree with Molly about the friends part. A lot of people are shocked but friends can be harmful to you. There are a lot of red flags in friends that we sometimes turn a blind eye to, and as harsh as it sounds is true. Not every friend has the best intentions for you so you have to distance yourself and at some point you will find your tribe.
Same here! The person whom I thought was my best friend since childhood ended up spiking me in the club and harming me after. I needed years of therapy to recover after the incident. It’s shocking how people in this comment section are so quick to criticise Molly without considering other viewpoints and experiences. Some people have been badly betrayed by people whom they considered “friends”. Plus others might be diagnosed with mental health difficulties such as social anxiety, which may make making friends harder for them.
don't get me wrong, I love Molly Mae I watch her channel and I love her - but this podcast has shown a different side to her. she says money can't buy happiness and you don't need all these lavish things to feel successful, however she contradicts herself by constantly talking about money and how everything isn't enough and that she always wants more? idk she comes across a bit self righteous in this interview which is something I didn't really expect from her...
This was a fascinating discussion. I find that I relate most to people who are not obsessed with being ahead of their audience. It feels so authentic and insightful to hear someone speak about their feelings of fear and doubt and how they still have not overcome them. However, they are still finding ways to thrive despite the fear. I was about to give up on pursuing my MBA next year, due to funding issues... and now I'm going to give myself the opportunity and see what comes of it. Much love and appreciation from South Africa.
I think it would be so good to review this interview each year… a bit like what Vanity Fair do with Billie to see how much the people you interview grow! Molly would be an awesome person to start with ☺️
She comes across as someone who is very cold, calculating and who's definition of success seems to stem from her value as a commodity and her ownership of material possessions which is why she doesn't seem to be happy as she alluded to. Love island was a calculated move even down to her relationship with Tommy Fury which has opened her up to a number of new audiences. If Tommy Fury get's knocked out by Jake Paul don't be surprised if Molly looks to get rid. The example of her 'screaming down the phone at this person on customer service who could do nothing about it but would make me feel better' is also quite telling.
I feel like she’s just quite reserved, and focused and knows what she wants. She has a small circle of people in her life that she cares about, likes to work hard, and work for what she wants.
Loved this episode Steven, thank you. I would have loved to hear you ask molly about how she feels being the face of such a damaging business/is she has any plan to encourage PLT to slow down their production speed and pay their garment workers a living wage.
Amazing video. Proud of molly mae in what she’s achieved. Such a roll model for young men and women. I don’t understand why people are so so afraid on how they look. It’s shouldn’t be the way. Everyone is beautiful in there own individual way. Remember that.
She also said social media is her brand and her job. So that’s clearly not what she meant. She’s not overly showing her personal things due to the robbery
@@kay6584 Does announcing your new house in Cheshire and doing a tour not count as overly sharing? She's a narcissist who's career is built on thinking her life is so interesting to share.
@@JG-sx6vt you do realise for her to have obtained this level of success, her audience must find her interesting as they are largely responsible for her growth. So it’s not narcissistic, she’s living what’s now her normal life & gets paid off it. Unless the majority of her views are fake fans like you ofc, seems as you care enough to watch the video but comment so negatively
@@kay6584 What was I saying? I'm glad this entitled narcissist is getting the back lash she deserves. Thinks she's the centre of the universe. Needs to grow up and realise she's just been very lucky.
@@JG-sx6vt I knew you was going to comment again🤣 she defo does fail to recognise the entirety of her privilege yes. But that’s not what your original comment was about. I did recognise flaws in the interview whilst watching it, but somebody who’s heavily in the public eye like this will always be under a microscope when sharing their life is literally their job. People need to lay off her a bit, they’re only making her more famous
I'll never understand people who allow themselves be "influenced" by the likes of Molly Mae,not knocking her at all,she jumped on a bandwagon and where most fall off she's stayed on but she's hardly someone that kids should be influenced by.
Molly has so much power and influence that she could really change the game in the fashion industry. Yet she chooses to work with fast fashion brands like PLT instead. I definitely respect her and her work ethic and wish her the best, just wish she'd use her platform in a more positive way.
Katie Luise, i don't think Prada and Louis Vitton would want to deal with secondary reality tv characters and doesn't matter how pretty they are. there isn't in an in between classy fashion brand that would want any of those love island characters.so Pretty lil' Thangs is all there is. and they paid her well but fast fashion is effing up this planet . she can get the bag
She "only had £100 left a week" Yet still went to starbucks? This kid knows nothing about the real world, she's always had a safety net . I pitty the young who follow these so called "influencers". Fact is she got a lucky break because she's pretty/fit, made it on to a very popular TV programme ,millions of others just like her didn't and won't ever. She's selling dream a thatcherite dream at that . Turn off your phones kids and just live YOUR best lives
To say ‘we all have the same 24 hours’ is incredibly ignorant and unfair. As a white, attractive, slim woman living in the UK, coming from a home with food, heating, and money - she DOES NOT have the same 24 hours as other people. People living in poverty DO NOT have the same 24 hours as someone like her.
So here’s the thing. I think there’s more to being an instagrammer or influencer than people realise for sure but… it’s still a piss easy job. Let’s not beat around the bush. Working hard is slaving away on a building site in the freezing cold at 6 in the morning for peanuts.
Influencing is not a piss easy job. And slaving away on a building site in the freezing cold @ 6am is working hard but not working smart. Comparing a construction worker & influencer doesn’t make sense!
@@mazal9895 Ok but 55 year old Dave with a bit of a beer belly is not about to pose in his new Balenciagas for the gram is he? And yes, it is piss easy compared to MOST other jobs.
@@mazal9895 it is piss easy. You just turn on a camera and record yourself doing nonsensical things. It's how goons like ksi or Jake Paul made a name for themselves. She's not a proper genius like an engineer or doctor, or an entrepreneur who has developed a product. She's just a normal fashion designer helped by her team. Loads of singers and actors do it, using their name to sell their crap brand.
Still very young. A good family up bringing. Intelligent, attractive, seen on reality TV, social media followers, confident, lucky and motivated.🙌🏼 Prob wrong thing to say she has worked her arse off. As I have to say, other people in the world have worked a lot harder. Ask an older person. Hard work is more than exhausting.
Big Molly Mae fan, and some comments didn’t hit well BUT we have to remember she is only 22, and most of those will come with maturity and age. Scientifically, your prefrontal context (rational part of your brain) doesn’t connect til 25
@@SupremeST25 so true and me and a lot of people quite a bit younger than her aren’t as out of touch as she is. maybe it’s because of all the privileges she’s had growing up that have made her think like this
How can people say this girl is a lovely person when she works for such an exploitative company🤨 if she’s so clever why is she so ignorant of the injustices the company she works for is creating. She may have a business mind but not an ethical conscience (as also shown when she imported an inbred puppy from Russia) I wish someone would actually ask for her views on this. It’s great young girls are looking to business women as role models but Molly Mae’s ignorance is concerning 🥴
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The absolute irony this podcast sponsored by a sustainable brand 😂it's like some kind of sick joke. Fast fashion is top 2 polluting industry globally, completely unnecessary and it simply cannot continue at the current rates of production. Please young people out there stop buying from these brands!! If only these influencers with huge followings would promote that and help the world be a better place
I feel so inspired by this interview! Just wow
I wanted to love this interview, I really did. I would have defended Molly Mae to anyone to a fault. But this interview just made me incredibly sad. After having Mary Portas on the show and talking specifically about the hunger for infinite wealth in a world of finite resources, I was also really disappointed by the lack of challenge you brought to her in your questions Steven, choosing not to confront the massive issue of fast fashion, choosing not to confront the contradiction of wanting more versus money not being everything. And hearing about Molly screaming down the phone at a customer service assistant because she was terrified of being called "fat" in a tabloid and then attempting to justify it by pretending it was the "size 10 girls" she was most concerned about... that was horrendous. Truly. This was a really disppointing episode and anything but inspiring. Poor show.
@@Hannah33529 well said. Molly has no fashion experience and no experience being a creative director. she's just a young pretty face who went on reality tv. the male owners of pet are paying her because she's cute and has a following that's it. Such a massive ego for someone who got where they are based on youth and beauty.
It's very tone deaf to dismiss those who are living incredibly deprived lives and/or face significant obstacles with the 'everyone has the same 24 hours' attitude. Yes, everyone does have the same 24 hours but if you're e.g. living in extreme poverty, working multiple jobs just to make ends meet, have to choose between feeding your children and heating your home, progressing in life makes it very difficult. Not necessarily impossible, but significantly harder. I'm sure MM wouldn't be where she is today if she too was living in similar circumstances. Let's also not fail to acknowledge that a white blonde woman will have many more doors open for them than their ethnic minority counterpart.
Thank you for this because I thinking the same thing when she said this. As in yes, I understood what she was saying but it’s also important to acknowledge the privilege you have whether racially or financially and she has both, others don’t. They aren’t as privileged and can’t achieve the same things in 24hrs as others. Completely tone deaf of her honestly.
couldn’t agree more!
Yes
She’s talking about her story which is great, but very ignorant of her privilege to assume everyone has the same obstacles as her.
She’s great though, inspiring stuff - no shade
Really insightful with Molly Mae and she clearly knows how to make money. However, I feel it is unfair to say she has elevated so much higher than all other islanders, Wes Nelson has platinum songs, is performing in the o2 and is a property investment millionaire. Along with other islanders who have used their platform far more wisely; Dr Alex George is the mental health ambassador of the U.K. and has worked tirelessly throughout the pandemic. Whereas molly is supporting overconsumption and a brand that is killing our planet in a climate crisis. No one can take away from her how authentic and creative she clearly is, however her ethical values supporting fast fashion is extremely questionable and shouldn’t be celebrated. The host should be asking these tricky questions. Very biased interview.
This is such a good point! So many other islanders like the ones you said plus Joz Denzel, are doing incredibly well in their own areas. Influencing/fast fashion isn’t the only way to be seen as successful
yes the host would have asked more questions seeing as many things she said goes against what he believes in
Exactly. Where is the conversation about working conditions and quality of life for the people that sew the clothes? Lots of the luxury brands she needed to show her fans is made from leather. I am always thinking of Sophie, Mike, and Caroline Flack. Caroline made the show a success. The planet is a beautiful wondrous place. Why are all these people thinking their wealth and confidence should destroy it?
I thought exactly the same. I think the host is either VERY basic or VERY intimidated
This is spot on
I really dislike the phrase “we all have the same 24 hours in a day”. I wake up at 6am, get my grandparents ready, make breakfast, work 9-6pm, cook dinner, tidy up and then study after 9pm or any other free moment I get. I can guarantee no 2 people have the same 24 hours. The perception of putting in the grind in order to be successful simply isn’t possible for some - I couldn’t possibly fit anymore work hours into my day if I tried and I’d consider myself a hard worker despite being on a 25k salary.
I am resentful that other people have more “time” than me and are far more successful in their career but saying we have the same 24 hours is such a naive statement making other people feel guilty that they’re not as successful despite working the same hours, not having time for a social life etc.
Also success is subjective whats to say her lifestyle is better than your 25k salary I feel like just because it’s the public eye, success is attached to materialism
We all have 24 hours, just not the same. Its down to us with what we do with our lives.
@@rain_k1202 What point are you trying to make exactly? You’ve literally said nothing of importance
@@JamesCM86 They have stated a fact, our days are all 24hrs, but we have different lives, so our time will used differently
Be more selfish
I’d love to see you revisit this in 10 years… I’m sure her answers will change! I was similar when I was 22 - desperate for more always. Now I realise that isn’t what life is truly about and to cherish relationships friendships & experiences
Yes!!!
I don’t think that’s a fair thing to say because she has friendships and a relationship already that she values and invests in with time, and she clearly said when she has kids one day so her trajectory is satisfactory to her. Your comment implies she doesn’t have any of that, which is dishonest
This is so true! I used to more so have this mentality where as now I just don’t feel that need. I’m content and realise now that is not what brings happiness.
@@chillingwitheliora7141 a
She's 22 not 15. It's ignorance not naivety. She has contradicted herself constantly.
I particularly liked the part about her manager Fran, she sounds as though she has been key part to Molly's success and Molly acknowledges it knowing that it doesn't discredit her own achievements. I'd be interested to know how many other people have managers who don't get the same kind of appreciation within this industry.
As someone working in the industry, it’s upsetting how much managers do for their success and get no appreciation
Really well observed comment. I agree that Molly does share how important Fran has been to her growth and elevation from influencer to business woman. It’s inspiring to know that Molly has elevated her success with other great women by her side. The acknowledgment is reassuring and has made me realise sometimes bringing in new external energy and a fresh perspective on the industry can level you up so you can reach and achieve new goals ✨
Meritocracy is a myth. There’s no such thing as us all ‘being on a level playing field’
True. But it's making the most of what we DO have and making marginal gains
@@kateproctor5197 She made the most of her situation but not all of us are lucky enough to get on the most popular game show in the country…
@@kateproctor5197 tell that to the garment workers in pakistan who make 29p an hour while molly gets a £600k salary off of their hard work
@@ct9221 forget pakistan, what about the sweatshop workers earning £3.40/hr in Leicester in her own country making ugly fast fashion clothes for PLT which she herself is now the creative director for
@@ct9221
Also in Leicestershire, the sweat shops raided during lockdown paying £3.50 an hr and employing illegal immigrants to make garments for Boo Hoo. Pretty little thing is part of Boo Hoo..
She must be so proud of that too..
It’s lovely to hear Molly’s experience and I am honestly inspired by her drive. I do think it’s important to highlight that (20:23), not everyone would be on a level playing field leaving Love Island. I think it would be ignorant not to acknowledge that some people have an extra boost from things that are out of their control, like the colour of your skin for example. Being white is in reality an instant ‘privilege’, and an equally talented young black woman may have to try harder even if she won Love Island. Molly Mae is a young white English woman with an English accent. I think it’s just really important to acknowledge these things and not constantly be ‘yes men’ to everything that guests say on these shows, because we only truly learn and offer solutions and growth through challenging ourselves and each other.
I'm so glad someone mentioned this, I was thinking the exact same thing. It's easy to think that they're all on a level playing field because they've been on the same show, but certain privileges play a part in the opportunities you'll get access to :(
Absolutely
Completely agree and thought the same
Absolutely agree with this
Totally second this. You are not on the same level playing field. She herself mentioned that she already had a platform unlike other housemate, the right manager which is key, not to count her appearance a skinny blonde white girl who already portrayed a certain lifestyle. There were many black girls on the show who experienced things molly mae haven’t experienced and let’s not forget Britain isn’t exactly open to diversity. A black person would have to an extent make themselves appealing and perhaps censor themselves to be accepted by a fraction of people.
I’m only 8 minutes in and I think if I watched this when I was also 20 or 22 I could 100% relate. I felt the need to prove my place in the world. I understand now being closer to 30 that choosing to live an “ordinary life” can be very meaningful. It’s incredible. There’s no greed involved and I’m not hungry for more constantly.
Ohhh bro I'm nearing 30 and at 21-22 I thought I was going to conquer the world, and then the world humbled me, my perpective, wants and needs have changed! I just want to live a happy secure life "Ordinary to most" it's very meaninful and it means so much to me to achieve this goal.
Hmm.. I disagree. I’m 24 (will be 25 soon) and I totally get how Molly feels cause I’m just in the grind phase of my life. I work super hard and just hustle, hustle, hustle. I don’t spend as much time as I want with family/friends cause I’d rather spend that time working… maximising myself. Brainstorming ideas for a new product or branch of my small business. Whilst I don’t agree with some of the things she said & her complete ignorance to privileges/sheer luck, I do share similar sentiment when it comes to hustling, working hard & wanting more. I don’t necessarily think it’s just an age thing, cause I’ve been this way since 20 and will probably be like this throughout the rest of my 20s.
Me being 23 knowing she’s chatting shit
@@leahmcdermott4189 22-24 is a two year gap. Ofc you feel the same
I have always liked Molly Mae and find her to have a lovely demeanour but for her to say that she was "terrified" to have the life her parents did is quite insulting to the people who raised her. Some things are better left not said even if that is genuinely how you feel. Is shows how far removed from reality you have become that you would throw your own parents under a bus in a video that will be watched by thousands of people. She maybe didn't mean it like that but I found it disrespectful. Its not the first time i have heard her be like this either.
Not only disrespectful to her parents but to people aspiring for that lifestyle
I mean that’s okay if you beleive, that, it’s your opinion.
@@ZeldasMask it’s her opinion, we shouldn’t allow that to control us.
Yes I also thought that!! Imagine hearing your daughter say she was terrified of having the life you did and how boring it is
You’re right. She could have simply said that that type of life wasn’t meant to be for her because she wants something different. I don’t think she understands that we all have different goals and we don’t all want everything she has or her lifestyle. There are people happier with a much simpler way of life
I used to be in awe of Molly in a lot of ways, we are a similar age and I can’t even imagine what I’d do in her position. But I realise that I wouldn’t want her place because she is missing so much to life, in my view. We must think about the significance of doing everything you want and being unstoppable so you can tell your grandkids you did everything if all of it was for yourself. I want to tell my grandchildren that I changed something, I want to be able to tell them what I did in the face of injustice, how I loved and was loved, how I enjoyed life truly because I spent everyday learning to be humble and only wanting more experiences to learn more from life and make the world better.
I don’t want the next generation to believe this is what life is about, that a million pounds isn’t enough- not because they need more to give to others but because it isn’t enough to sustain their greed.
It’s not Molly’s responsibility to use her money or massive platform to make change but to feel no urge to use it for that is interesting to me. In a lot of ways she is profiting from oppression so I suppose I’m not surprised.
She is where she is because of hard work but also because of privilege. You’re telling me the only reason a black influencer hasn’t made it to where they are through love island etc because of a difference in work ethic? Because they didn’t use their 24hours in the same way? There is a streak of nastiness I see in molly in her ignorance, she has the ability and education to know better and the way that she speaks about things in this interview is worrying to me.
There are millions of people that work there arse off too, often in jobs much less payed and much less glamorous than an influencers, maybe the very workers for pretty little thing. Not everyone gets the choices she does, she’s clearly never have to worry about anything other than herself, I don’t blame her for this but I do think think there are so many people following her that want to be where she is and think life is about getting rich or die trying.
Maybe she will live life never having to see the realities and never having to know what it is like to have enough, knowing what it’s like to feel fulfilled with nothing in the bank.
I’m saying this purely because I want people to think. We all have the power to have incredible lives when we are kind and remember to measure success by ourselves and our impact on the world. When we leave this world we can taking nothing with us and the only lasting thing we can leave behind is the way we made others feel.
This is so well said. 100% agree with everything said.
1000% well said xx
I agree with everything, I have loved Molly since love island but I really don’t think she came across well in this interview in my opinion 😓 it made me see a different side to her, I feel like if she constantly desires more and more it will eventually make her quite unhappy 🙁 I’m not hating on her at all I still look up to her, but it’s almost like she needs a bit of reality check maybe 😓
Goosebumps. You said it so well. I’m glad other people see this from her interviews.
Yep more to life than money, it's that genuine uncontrollable laughter that you get when chatting to someone close. That's what we crave, meaningful connections.
When you’re older and you look back and talk to your kids - it won’t be about your achievements or how much money you made. It will be about the people you connected with and the memories you made with the people you love. I find Molly’s outlook in this video pretty sad and I find it cringe how out of touch her perspective is on why she is at where she is.
She’s still very young, experience will show her what is truly important in life, give her grace to grow
Yeah I knew a few people like this and very quickly I came to realise they were deeply unhappy under the surface. I think she’ll come to regret or rethink a lot of things she said in this.
She sums up a great deal of people in the UK. It's diabolical living in this shallow fading country.
My opinion on molly has changed so much after watching this. I always thought she was down to earth but she comes across as soooo greedy!! Such an anticlimax being a millionaire?! You need to live in the real world girl
She’s only 22. Give her grace to grow. I’m sure her answers will be so different in 5-10 years.
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But the real question is when did she actually ask for your opinion
@@bbyckhx When she hits the wall? Doubt it. Only more delusion from women that age.
@@bbyckhx I know a lot of people younger than her that would have answered the questions more wisely. Age is nothing but a number
Im only 20 min in and I can say its clear she is yet too young to understand that materialistic things don’t always equal true happiness. I watch her YT videos and she seems a lot more humble and innocent there compared to this interview.
She's 22 years old, its not that she's too young to understand, she's incredibly self absorbed, tone deaf and out of touch with the reality of ordinary folk.
@@kennawhitty5884 Your viewpoint is EXACTLY like the book of Ecclesiastes. You defined do not have to be religious to read it! But it's a great philosophical historian book!
Yeah, that was called acting & catering to your target audience 😭 people are dumb & she capitalised off that
that's why you need to watch the whole video, hit the just over 1 hour mark and she says herself that she has come to the realisation that materialistic things didn't have as much value as she thought
i love molly and find it fascinating to hear about her life, but I wouldn’t agree that confidence is something that you either have or don’t. Not everyone is born with that as an innate part of their personality and for many successful people it takes time and effort to build
Her confidence stems from an overall lack of awareness
Mark Zuckerberg is a perfect example of learned confidence!
@@Emily-md9yu 😂😂😂
I was looking for this comment! I couldn’t agree more! Confidence is something you can work on and build so for her to literally say ‘you can’t build confidence’ kind of blew my mind a bit.. great that’s she’s confident naturally but that’s not a nice message to send out to young girls who might not be as confident!
If you’re reading this and feeling low in confidence right now, I promise you it is something you CAN build! I had low confidence in my twenties and after being cheated on and breaking up with someone when I was 27, I decided to go traveling and made some positive and healthy changes to my diet and lifestyle and my confidence boomed so much. ❤️
Yeah that comment made me go 'what the hell?'. Building confidence is part of everyone's personal growth journey and we all reach it at different times and different phases of our life. Confidence can also come and go, it's not always a constant
I do watch Molly-mae and she seems really sweet, I understand that she will want to prove to everyone that she has worked hard and deserves what she has. There’s no doubt that she has worked hard.
But the reason people come for rich people who say “we all have the same 24 hours” is because we literally don’t? We all have 24 hours in a day, but definitely not the same 24 hours. Someone like molly who has a caring family, and her caring parents are also police officers with comfortable salaries, already have a COMPLETELY different 24 hours to a massive % of the population before they even start their journey to becoming famous. Why can’t people just accept that they have major privilege.
Also, it has been discussed by black women who have been on love island that they make less money in general compared to white women from the show. Black women from the show are treated differently by the public which is something most of us can see, so there definitely isn’t a level playing field either.
Totally agree with this. We all have 24hours in the day, but ive never had any parents to rely on at all, no stability, no back up plan. For some its alot easier than others x
@@TheBeautyConclusion exactly! She was already about 1000 steps ahead of the likes of you and I just by coming from the background she comes from. I’d respect her more if she would just accept the privilege has. Even when first starting her ig page, she had access to a safe home, electricity, appliances to record herself on, access to fashion and accessories to show off etc. That’s already more than what a lot of people have. I could go on forever really x
@@leigh1220 her parents r divorced tho? Her mum got married recently to someone else From what I know… So doesn’t that explain she must’ve faced some difficulty in her life growing up it’s not always happy days but I see what u mean
@@xnm2754 I definitely don’t think that she hasn’t faced any difficulty in life, just that she comes from a privileged background and does not have the same 24 hours as a lot of people (eg the high numbers of people in the uk alone who live in poverty). It is problematic for her to act like it is a level playing field. I get what you’re saying though, of course she’s had difficulty and she has worked hard too, I wouldn’t deny that
@@leigh1220 I get what you mean, makes sense
This is the realest she’s been. She’s not trying to be nice, she’s not trying to sugar coat, just saying it as it is and I LOVE IT this is what inspiration looks like.
she's just money hungry. the main reason she got to where she is that she is a young pretty white girl. she didn't really earn her beauty or skin colour did she? It's easy to "hustle" when anything you post on social media blows up because you have the "right look". What qualifies her to be a creative director? People study for years for a job like this either as an intern, apprentice or at college but PLTt doesn't care about that they want a 22 year old with zero experience lol. The only reason she got the creative director role is the MEN at PLT find her attractive and know she will bring in more customers - the job title is irrelevant she's there as a face to bring in more customers...lesson = be a young, pretty white girl, post a lot on social media and men will start to pay you to sell stuff...
@@mensroompodcast you sound very bitter😂😂😂
@@mensroompodcast stop making this about race and beauty.
@@mensroompodcast you sound big mad get over yourself.
@@sophiaatn5339 can't argue with what I said though can you?
“You just need to work harder” Molly’s opinion on poor people.
What a vile, uneducated comment from Molly 😳
Tbf I'm surprised I went to school with her. She is so different from the girl I went to school with. I find it so funny she says we all have 24 hours in a day and it is what we do with it but I have 2 disabled children one more severely who I have to care for I can't work proper hours because of all their specialist appointments, I work at my family business yeah it pays the bills but I'm not living comfortably, but to be fair I wouldn't change it for the world I would rather live like I am than have loads of money because she is so delusional on real world things, like mother's working with kids I can't risk making my kids comfortable and having everything they need to chase fame and basically risk their security.
@@kaede1093 well done for providing the best life you can for your children. Your example is the exact reason that Mollys tone deaf comments have outraged so many people. We simply do not all have the freedom to ‘work harder’ and post a picture on Instagram and earn more from that one post than what one person might earn in a year working 12 hour days. Stevens comments around the outrage being due to her gender is a kick in the stomach to feminism and is totally misguided.
I don’t think she was saying this to poor people, or even had poor people in mind.
Where did she say it was her opinion to poor people.
@@Janicesaheed I'm not saying she's saying it to poor people I'm saying she doesn't realise a we all don't have the same 24 hours in the day, I work my ass off but I'm a single mother of 2 disabled children my commitments and priorities are elsewhere, I think where she got famous she completely lost sight of that people have different things going on and can't just drop everything to try and be famous if that's their dream
Her role as 'creative director' is 100% a complete token gesture. How can you just step into a role like that with no experience of working your way up in the fashion/design world? I guarantee there are people working behind the scenes that actually do all the work and don't get any of the credit.
I'm sorry but this is such an ageist comment. If she happened to be older, or if she was a man, this wouldn't even be a thought. Teyana Taylor is the CD for PLT in America and both of these women have major influence, impeccable style and appeal to a broad audience. Molly embodies PLT's target audience. This is a 9 figure/year company, it goes without saying that there is a team behind anyone in a creative director role but
since she was chosen, she must be doing something right. Molly is inspiring for chasing her dreams and believing in herself enough to be where she is.
@@mssaradime I don't think you understand what a creative director does
Excellent comment
@@amoxzi she did the equivalent of A Levels, FRA is for 16 year olds who know nothing about fashion. That's like saying someone who does physics at A Level can build a NASA telescope
@@theninjacow I think she fully understands what a creative director does.
She’s completely missed the mark here. It’s great that she’s appreciative of her life rn but she refuses to acknowledge the privilege she really has. Love island made Molly mae hague, it wasn’t just an extra boost. She’s very very young, she has not experienced real struggles. She does not appreciate the ordinary female who has to work their ass off with 0 privelages and it’s so ignorant. I hope she reflects on this.
Agreed
How do you know she hasn’t struggled? I highly doubt you know her personally? I think you also need to reflect on how you judge other peoples lives.
@@anthonyze i think Klassrisa understands that everyone has struggles cos that is apart of being human having mental and physical struggles, nor do i think klassrisa was judging molly mae but pointing out things she has said and how she has come across to those that have had privilege and financial struggles in the system we live in. Even if you know anyone personally how much do you really know about anyone other than how they present themselves to you or others and how much does one really know themself?.....
@@anthonyze they didn’t say she hasn’t struggled, just that her struggles are not the same as most peoples so it’s not fair for her to suggest that ‘if people were to utilise their time differently they’d be just as successful as she is if only they had the drive’. That type of perspective requires a specific amount of privilege to uphold because it is formed through a disconnection from the reality of working class peoples lives and struggles. It is absolutely necessary to be critical of these opinions and there’s a valid reason she’s met backlash here.
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Good to know Molly Mae is “100% behind” the environmental disaster that is fast fashion and the shocking practices of their suppliers.
as you type on a device probably made through cheap labour
@@osaren5125 yes I know it’s dreadful and I know that. I don’t support these labour practices and I recognise that I’m privileged to be able to buy a phone. I also don’t believe that the labourers who built my phone are only in that factory because they don’t work hard enough and can simply achieve millionaire status if they just worked harder. That’s not how the world works. Life is not a meritocracy as Molly Mae would have people believe.
@@05jgardner You say you dont support the practices but you still use the device? my point is that lets not be hypocrites and act holier than thou. A lot of people have taken what she said out of context ( a 60 second clip from a 2 hour podcast from 3 weeks ago). The same people relentlessly mocking her will be the same to have #bekind in their bio if she harmed herself
@@osaren5125 yeh but I’m not creative director of apple. I have watch the podcast. Be kind whilst noble is not a shield to be misused. I’m sure that she is getting some hideous abuse which I don’t condone but the lion share of criticism is valid.
@@osaren5125 Can’t compare smart phones to this as you can get bags and bags of PLT clothes for extremely cheap. Some girl got £2000 worth of PLT clothes for £11 brand new….
She seems like a very nice and sweet girl (and we can't forget how young she is) but one thing I have really picked up from this interview is her obsession with material objects and obtaining these being a reflection of 'success' in her eyes. As a lawyer, I recognise success as truly making a difference in the world. I think it is very important that we bring up the younger generation with the idea that bringing about real change and justice is far more important than chasing status or vast amounts of wealth. Hopefully she will learn this in the future and be able to use her platform to bring about some real good to a world in desperate need of it ☺️
Her age is irrelevant, if you're in the public domain, expect public criticism
I love Molly Mae and I think her work ethic is amazing. However, I do worry that her constant thirst for more is going to lead her to a very miserable life. I hope one day she is able to see that acquiring more materialistic things does not define happiness. There is a deep rooted issue she needs to address. I suspect this will come with burn out, being lonely and being unhappy in everything she does. With that being said, good luck Molly!
Yes yes yes!
Money is her God and also the root of all evil…
@@mensroompodcast no the LOVE of money
Molly mae is getting dragged on Twitter right now for her silly comments. Sad to see, hopefully she learns her lesson!
yikes shes clearly not a good person.
From watching Molly Mae on youtube, her appeal and likability come from her innocent, open very positive view towards life and people. It is quite sad and troubling listening to this podcast to hear how much she references making money and becoming successful. I guess that is her job as an "influencer" to engage and sell us the world she lives in...however this podcast in my opinion shows that she is much sharper and not quiet as innocent as she portrays.....
Yh a lot of people missed that point.
she came across as a money hungry entitled woman who worships money and prioritises it above all else. quite sad
@@mensroompodcast I don't see the problem with this? She minds the business that pays her... you don't see her in mess on the blogs or in any type of mix up.. All we see of her is making moves. When you start making money and living a type of lifestyle, of course you would want to keep it up and want more. Molly seems to live her life the way she wants too and we shouldn't bash her for that.
@@renl4618 well said but I feel this get money above all else culture is quite toxic
Totally agree!
She’s contradicted herself in this saying we all have the same opportunities but also said she’s always been really confident and is blessed to be that way.
Confidence plays a huge part for people, some people don’t have the confidence to up and move their lives to a different town or even go to a job interview somewhere else, some people are crippled with anxiety when it comes to stuff like that and then don’t get the job or whatever.
So your saying it’s impossible to become confident? I disagree
Not only that but she said you either have it or you don’t, and that it’s not something you can build on. If she believed that then how can she think we all have equal opportunities? She hasn’t given it much thought. Love Steven’s podcasts though and I don’t like that she’s getting so much hate.
@@footballequalslife7452 it’s not impossible but it can be extremely difficult for a lot of people. Some people have crippling anxiety that holds them back from a lot of opportunities, for example.
Yep
Really do enjoy her work ethic, but to say we all have the same 24 hours to get what we want is easier for her to say compared to others. Frankly, no, some underprivileged people don’t have the freedom, agency and disposable income to spread certain risks in life to venture into different life journeys or careers.
Very true. Spot on.
She got to where she was because she was luckily selected to go on love island.
That’s it. She luckily got picked over thousands of women to go on the lost popular game show in the country.
@@SpitfireMLG Just so bitter man I really do feel sorry for you in feeling this way. As soon as you realise that literally ANYONE can make a success of themselves in 2022 using social media, the better. You seriously don't believe "that's it" do you? She's clearly put in so much more work, I just wish people would stop hating on successful people. Such a shame man
@@myronlearns do you think everyone wants to put themselves on social media for the whole world to judge them for money. or show their ass on realty tv yh if that’s the case molly did put in so much work by luckily getting selected to go on a reality tv show at random and getting a boosted celebrity status from it. such hard work man.
I think she’s speaking from her own truth and experiences. Obviously this is her opinion, and truth, and it’s not for everyone. It’s okay, If you disagree.
And the life other people want look, different from what she wants. to the extent, you can, I do feel you can create the life you want. It doesn’t have to be so big. For example it can be to be healthy, and do things that bring your joy.
I’m disabled , suffer with chronic pain & I’ve suffered with mental health issues since I was 14 ( I’m 23 now ) yet I’ve worked in the NHS since I was 17. I would bloody love to see Molly last 5 mins in an actual job.
she is nouveau riche with lack of perspective but i think in 10 years she will revisit this and regret what she said.
I’m sorry to hear you’re suffering with these things, I hope you are okay. Just wanted to say you are a prime example of how much Molly’s words can hurt for someone like yourself. Your chronic pain must make everything you do so much harder than someone without a medical condition. Your dedication to help others, has meant that you’re spending your time doing very crucial work with the NHS rather than spending your time posting pictures wearing designer clothes and getting fillers hoping to be liked by enough people that you can make a million. It’s nuts that some people don’t realise that in a capitalist world there’s NO way every single person can just up and change their ‘24 hours’ to become a millionaire. All she had to do was say one short simple sentence like ‘this doesn’t necessarily apply to everyone, there’s obviously a level of privilege that comes to play, but everyone can definitely strive to try their best within the realms of what they’re able to access and draw upon in life’. Ugh.
How can you work in the NHS since 17 years old?
Why the bitterness?
@@robertat.8817 you can work as a healthcare support worker (auxilliary nurse), a phlebotomist, a domestic, a ward clerk, a porter, a kitchen assistant... all of these jobs would be accessible at 17.
“It’s not enough” is a really dangerous mindset to be passing on to your followers Molly :( especially the younger ones.
Agreed
It's not enough FOR HER. Inadequate parenting is not on her...
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She is being honest. It’s an interview not a pep talk
If she feels like that about the homeless then she should start her own foundation and use the huge platform she has to help
EXACTLY!! She has such a huge platform to use for good…
She'll definitely have different answers to a lot of these questions in 5-10 years time.
As anyone would! That's just natural evolution of a human during their lifetime :)
So would anyone?
Yes she will, that is the beauty of life. How fantastic that she can rewatch this podcast in the future and reminisce on her life journey.
@@Sbs349 love this!
This wasn’t a challenging interview by any means but it did show aspects of her character that are undesirable. The greed, never being satisfied with what you have, friends seem dispensable apart from her manager , she lived in Hitchin for 18 years then just left on her own and left all her friends behind. Quite ruthlessly ambitious I would say but fair play. However, if she’s never satisfied she won’t truly ever be happy or content
I think being unsatisfied because you want to push yourself to what you know you can achieve is a bit different than being unsatisfied because nothing you do makes you happy or makes you want to stop and settle. It’s unfair of you to suggest those things out of envy for her work ethic. Why would she stop, she’s only 22.
@@caitlinsmith4910 she’s gonna be 42 and burnt tf out
Hey Steven, I'm a long time listener of your podcast and it really has added a great deal of value to my conversations, and my life. I really respect you, and everything that you've achieved. However, based on your commitment to Jordan to be truthful, I have a question for you. How can you, on the one hand, talk about your 'commitment to being more sustainable' and your sponsorship with Octopus Energy but on the other, have the opportunity to interview the Creative Director of one of the biggest fast fashion brands in the world and not bring up the planetary destruction that they're causing? Was this out of fear? Because it was too difficult? Because you don't actually care about the planet? I'd really appreciate understanding your thinking behind this.
He’s seen this.
He wont reply to this.
He’s a yes man.
Lol. its all for the image. whatever's trendy at the time. Octopus energy are a whole other story but its all a gimmick to jump on the sustainability bandwagon
Molly and Steven are charlatans, they don’t believe a word they say, Steven is cringeworthy unauthentic in his delivery, everything is so scripted and premeditated that you know it’s coming from a disingenuous place and Molly doesn’t believe she’s worked her arse off to get where she is, if you know anything about body language you can see that a mile off.
Many millenials just need to create the illusion of caring. That way they can pretend they aren't as selfish as every other generation before them.
I would imaging that the questions are given to Molly-Mae before this gets recorded and she has the last word of what questions will be asked x
I have decided to binge watch every episode and as an ADHD I am really fixated into not skipping but although it’s impressive that the guests is so young and has achieved much! this interview is a so « me, me, me » interview 💔
It makes me so sad that she doesn’t have any friends! I’ve always liked molly but it seems like she wants to grow up too quickly. Having friends is one of the most important and fulfilling part of life. I wouldn’t trade my friends for any money!
She said she had 5 friends. Sometimes it’s better to keep your circle small.
I agree and find it very sad , but i don’t feel sorry for her as i think she came across very harsh and sounds like she’s the problem she says “i haven’t got the time” and that she’s lazy with it and can’t ‘relate’ to her old friends anymore, seems like she’s putting herself on a pedestal
She didn’t say she doesn’t have friends, she said her circle is small.
People don’t understand that when you have friends you have to put effort into it even if they are different phases than you. She probably prioritized work over friends and maybe doesn’t want to admit she might be at fault for her friendships being long lasting but it does take maturity on her end given she’s in a higher position than her friends. You have to meet them halfway otherwise the friendship can slowly fade out. And I mean with respectfully
Some people prefer having a small group of friends as opposed to large ones. Some people also have mental health difficulties such as social anxiety or may be introverts. Not everyone desires having fake friends or are able to afford the price of being betrayed or backstabbed by an untrue ‘friend’.
Decided to re-watch this again and I'm still in awe of Molly-Mae. I can't understand how people don't like her. She is an incredible woman with a heart of gold, and I'm so excited to continue watching her grow.
Chinese workers who have 23 hour shifts have learnt a lot from this
I think there's a difference between happiness and gratitude. It's clear she's able to step back, look at what she's created and be super excited for her younger self who wanted all of it, but that's not the same thing as happiness. You can be grateful and still deeply unhappy. And I think as long as there's the mindset of 'more, more, more', you'll sadly never experience true happiness. Happiness can only be found in the present moment. It's not in some imaginary future place. Because by the time that future place comes, it's the present moment again! Anyway - 22 is still super young in the grand scheme of things. I sure as hell didn't know this shit when I was 22, and I'm sure I would have said and thought all the same things. Props to her for her incredible achievements! I think she's awesome x
Totally agree ...as you grow up u realise this ...humans chase things but are never satisfied...being in the present moment ...giving to people less fortunate ...is what makes you happy ...people who chase things all the time end up getting anxiety....but with age most of us learn this
Yes! We must try and see the present as such a privilege. To live in this exact moment, appreciate it. I saw a quote once that said the past and future are not real. All we have is the present so love that we are here now and that will be enough
Completely agree! Happiness is not an end goal or a destination. It is impossible to always be happy 100% of the time and unfortunately social media creates a false impression that people are all the time. Life is a journey, there's good and bad along the way. It's good to work towards the future and have aspirations but learning to enjoy the present and being happy in that very moment is a great skill in itself. Mindfulness is key in a present moment. Life is like a journey of endless moments.
Never knew she is only 22!
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I find it so ironic how she follows up the statement about “always wanting more” with “money doesn’t bring happiness” and “I’m the happiest I’ve ever been”. Contradictory much?
I’ve nothing against her since I barely know who she is but if money was not the part of the equation, she would not be in this chair. If her work was not commercially successful, she would not get the conveyor belt of opportunities she has currently, and likely would not be “the happiest she’s ever been” because her life would be as ordinary as yours or mine. I don’t understand why influencers dismiss the role that money plays in their lives when it literally enables them to do what they like.
She's trying to appear humble, young people aren't good at doing so.
Wanting more doesn’t always equate to money. People want more for their career, relationships, etc. You can be happy in your current state but also have dreams of doing more. Im happy being a student but I want more in my life. It’s like looking forward to the next chapter. It is not always about money.
@@rackellsouza9640 she literally said “all I wanted is to have £1 million in my bank account and as soon as I hit it, that’s it, I want £2 million now”. Clearly money isn’t the last thing on her priority list
She’s trying to humble and strong but u can see she’s at stage where she’s searching for that eternal happiness because she legit got everything but same time she’s probably confusing it with wanting more as a mechanism to change that just like all these millionaires do
and funnily enough she doesn’t even seem happy
There’s a lot to unpack here.
Firstly, she is only 22. While it’s commendable she’s reached this point in her career already, there’s still an immaturity about her and a lot to learn. I think if she revisits this interview even in a year her answers to these questions will be quite different. At 21 I felt very mature, intelligent and ahead of my years and to an extent I was, but even at the young age of 25 I look back at me then and realise I was wrong about a lot of things. And I will be again.
Secondly, I can relate to her always wanting more and striving to tick off goals, however in my experience it didn’t make me happy. As soon as I achieved one thing, I didn’t sit with it and appreciate it enough. Like her, I was already planning what to do next. Achieving it didn’t mean as much to me as wanting it. Tick boxing your life doesn’t make you happy. In fact it makes you quite depressed. The stories she wants to tell of what she’s achieved, what she’s earned and who she’s met won’t really impress people around her either. People older, wiser and more mature than her will have already worked out its not as important as she thinks. I always wanted recognition and rarely got it. The “ordinary” life she’s so terrified of having at 22 is all I want now and I’m only a few years older.
Thirdly, yes we do all have 24 hours in a day and if you do want something badly enough you can make it happen. However, we’re not all on a level playing field just because the only thing we have in common is 24 hours. With my background, I felt like I’ve had to work twice as hard just to achieve what some of my peers already had given to them. From my background, a roof over your head, a full time job, a car and money in the bank account wasn’t our ordinary. That was the goal. She is too privileged to understand poverty and how difficult it is to get out of it. If you are homeless, you do not have an address. If you don’t have an address, how do you get a job or a bank account? If you don’t have a job or bank account, how do you get an address? The cycle goes round and round.
What she has gained in wealth and power she lacks in maturity, gratitude and happiness. Everything she does is an opportunity that’s presented to her, the rest of us have to try and create opportunities, not have the luxury of flicking through 800 emails a day and choosing what we fancy.
Amen. So beautifully laid out.
26:48 ‘I’m not that girl from hitchin anymore’
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45:45 ‘I am still that girl from Hertfordshire’
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🤣🤣 hilarious when you think about it
1:09 her example of how she works so hard is all she can fit in the day is "I work, spend time with my boyfriend and go to bed" you know like every other working person on the planet, except jobs with longer hours like nursing etc. Who incitently earn a lot less than her for a much harder job. Or where you're in a position where your partner has to do nights and your doing days meaning you don't see each other at all, although they are normally to always the poorest in society as that's the only reason you would go through that. But she works hard trust
I normally love your podcasts Steven, got a ticket for your show... but I was hoping you were going to delve deeper into Molly's views on how PLT are corrupting the planet and exploitation of people? It's all over the news recently so don't know how this wasn't brought up?
@q she’s so honest and she gives the people what they want …. Not
She said she’s always thinking about the detail but ignores this
I feel so good to hear someone like me in the fact that I don't need a lot of friends, get along with a lot of people but I don't consider them friends!
So happy to see a young woman with ambition.
Not a fan of this girl at all, neither do I find her very inspirational but I did watch. I found her thoughts on friendship revealing. I agree with her, some people do not add anything valuable to your life, which is why you have to be particular about friendships I’ve found. I do think however, she seems to place value on money, making money and material objects which is probably why she doesn’t see the value in meaningful friendships which do exist if you want them. That’s quite sad and short sighted in a way, but she is young.
How do you get meaningful friendships? She obviously comes from the working class, she thinks money will make her, and has found all her former working class friends hate her for now having money. When she realises material obkects are mostly meaningless maybe she'll change her view, but how the hell would she, or anyone, make freinds with better people, it's not easy coming from her position, I know..
@@jakebale602 surely if you can have a boyfriend, you can make friends 🤔
I still like her. While it’s impossible to agree with what everyone says, I don’t agree with everything she says, and that’s okay.
We can disagree with someone and still treat them with kindness. And nor dehumanise them
Yeah she’s only 22
@@deniserobalo8737 😂😂😂😂😂😂 right
The fact that she travels the world, makes money whilst she sleeps, inspires millions at 22 is something I will never get over.
Here I am, almost 7 years older than her, disabled, under-employed, in debt and unarranged overdraft, traumatised,abused,bullied,diseased, failed, suffering a lot with not even a license never mind a car, and have no support system around me.
I am a victim of many hardships too.
When I listen to youngsters of this calibre, I am geneuinely in awe but mostly JEALOUS!
I wish I was never born. How can I ever be liked in a world where juniors are so far accelerated above me?
Ahhh Molly Mae, damn you for your perfection!
Yeah well life's not fair. People like molly mae are exceptionally lucky people and not the norm. You know that I'm sure. In any case, you probably already know you shouldn't compare yourself with others, but find inspiration where you can. Admittedly, molly may hasn't provided much of that here imo, especially to those who are not already privileged in the way she has been.
I'm sorry to hear all the hardships you have to endure, but hope you can derive inspiration from other people from various backgrounds who have achieved different types of success (not always marked financial success btw) and even more so have shown they can fully appreciate what they already have in life along the way.
That all said a bit jealousy is normal too so nothing to beat yourself over. As long as we don't dwell on it, and switch our attention to appreciating and moving forward best as we can.
Sorry if my comment sounds bland or whatever, but I saw your comment and it looked a bit sad and hopeless. Best of luck you
I don't usually comment on videos but watching this has made me feel quite depressed about where I am in life at 25 comparing, which I know I shouldn't, but to Molly Mae who is 22 achieved so much and still not satisfied with where she is ... I love Molly Mae and how honest she is dont get me wrong but this made me sad because although we do have 24 hours in a day we arent given the same opportunities or dealt the same hand ...
Hey babe - just read this and it made me sad that watching this made you sad. We aren’t all given the same opportunities because that’s just life. Whatever you are currently working on in terms of a career or skill that you have just make sure you harbour and invest into making the best out of it! No matter what it is! This interview is to inspire others & to remind people not to be lazy & put yourself in a position to be seen so that the opportunities come to you! I’m 29 about to be 30 and I can tell you right now that when I was 22 I probably thought like Molly. As you get older you realise what’s most important in this life - your family, having great friends & good health! I wish you all the best hun! Enjoy life! xx
Babe, just know that worthiness does not come from money, clothes etc etc. Molly is NOT the standard. If feeling depressed by this strange ultra capitalist social media bubble, my (humble) advice is delete all social media - give it a few weeks and come back to them and more carefully select people to follow who make you feel affirmed, motivated, but also social and politically conscious. Molly Mae is so so so not it.
Oh hunny! That’s so sad 🥺. Don’t compare yourself to others, only compare yourself to the previous version of yourself. Bare in mind, Molly is the exception, not the rule. That’s not to say you can’t achieve the same level of ‘success’ of her, ofcourse you can. But she doesn’t represent the majority or average person. So comparing yourself to her is futile. I’m 24 (will be 25 soon) and I defo don’t feel satisfied with where I’m at either but that’s my motivation to keep pushing, grinding and working harder. Hard (& smart) work pays off. Don’t feel discouraged. If anything, Molly Mae (and many other rich celebrities) is that proof anything is possible. Anyone can be successful, whatever that means to you.
Set SMART tangible goals for YOU & work towards them every day. You’re still so young so you have so much time. Then review those goals every year. Celebrate your wins and see what you can improve 💕
She's just a little obsessed with financial success and gains. Which you have to be if you wanna reach that level. But numbers are endless & if you put too much emphasis on it you'll never be happy, think of it as something to strive or have your own milestones , comparing is okay but keep in mind everyone's situation is different. For me :a roof over your head , couple of genuine friends & meaningful relationships, enough money to get by & some warm cooked food is a blessing. Good luck to you though. I'm sure you'll make it.
Never ever compare your beginning to someone else’s middle or end… we all have our own paths, time and progressions
The confident thing Molly said is wrong, u CAN build confidence you’re not just born with it like she said. I’ve seen many shy people change to VERY confident like u don’t just HAVE it. You can have it but you can also build it.
Minute 10:50
Very true
Yes! Confidence is a skill and you learn it as you grow up. She is confident because she grew up in a healthy (ish) environment and with privileges. If you are being abused as a child for many years, you end up with low self-esteem and many problems with how you perceive yourself. You can gain that confidence back with some help with therapy but you also need to be privileged to even access that help.
As a creative director for a major fashion brand, someone told me to watch this, and it's one of the funniest things I've seen for a while. Just to clear up for people who are watching this, the role of a "Creative Director", is not as glamorous as you may think. I have 12 designers including a Design Manager report into me, as well as a team of 6 in marketing, and a marketing manager, along with a photography manager who uses multiple freelance photographers, oh and 2 girls who are known as bookers, who are in charge of booking models, which I have to sign off via Finance every month and keep the whole show in budget. I work my fucking ass of everyday, including weekends and holidays. My role to glue design/marketing and photography and styling together and push the brand foward and hit key looks and trends. I wake up at 5am and I stop working at 11pm. In constant convo's with factories/studios/models & photographers all around the world. Covid has been a nightmare due to not being able to travel, so the past 24 months has been hell. Ive worked in the indsutry for 19 years, from a scrotty graduate who thought he was the bollocks to now. This girl is a marketing tool, thats all. she has no idea what she is talking about. But shes pretty, so let her make her money, and there will be more after her. Peace and Love x
I agree to some extend. You're right about that she's a marketing tool and it's a really clever move from PLT. The thing is that she speaks about it quite openly, there's mixture of being proud and confident about herself but there's also the humility to say 'im there as a consumer with fresh point of view, I have no idea about many things they tak about'. And just as Steven pointed out, him and her have been in situations where they felt stupid on meetings, but clearly they bring value there because otherwise they would't be there. Obviously she has a crowd of followers but after listening to this podcast and seeing how hardworking and driven she is I'm sure she is bringing much more to the table. It's a win-win situation, fresh outlook on how to do business in the modern / social media world.
Thought it was very telling when Steve asked her "how is your creative director role different to what you did before" she couldn't and didn't really answer it. Just cleverly swerved it because she knows she isn't really doing anything like a full day at an office. Just literally the same stuff as before, posting photos online and promoting herself + products. She doesn't have a clue about " hard work". She's got all the people in PLT doing all the real work for her. And like you said, she just markets stuff at her own leisure. It really annoys me that celebrities claim " hard work". They are smart in how they do things but their input is actually very little compared to the average persons work day. She just said she "gives advise and opinions on stuff" girl, that ain't a full time job 😂
I like her& follow her channel& thought she was genuinely humble but after this, not so sure. I still like her but I’m now wondering who she really is. I think she says stuff because she knows it will make her sound a certain way; eg to sound boss girl& savage(seeing friends as waste of time) or the flip side being all fake humble(happiness comes from within& then say she wants more money)& dismissing the inequities of this world by the inanely dishonest “we all have the same 24 hours”. I like her but honestly I’m 21 soon & at varsity & can’t imagine talking like I’ve worked all my life when all she’s done is work hard for last 4 years maximum taking photos& shooting vlogs…like she’s gassing herself up like she’s earned it all because she’s brilliant. I don’t know this interview is weird man, I’m embarrassed for her…she knows so little but think she’s figured it all out. She’s 22 and it sounds it…there only are only a handful prodigies in the world & she’s definitely not one of them…she’s succeeded in a new industry(social and digital influencer) so fast, not be she’s the hardest working influencer 22yr old out there , it’s a bit of luck& loads of white privilege especially post Love Island(which she now also dismisses)😑
Molly might do well researching equity & equality & how we can’t have one without the other because her comments in regards to ‘having the same 24hrs’ & ‘all the islanders being on same level playing field’ is almost laughable if it wasn’t so sad that she she is totally blind to how untrue those comments are.
She said money and materialistic things doesn’t make her happy, but just before that she said 1 million wasn’t enough and her new house isn’t big enough
Never judge a book by its cover. Fascinating to hear the whole story. Hats off to you Molly Mae 👏🏻
Some things said in this interview are definitely very ignorant from Molly. I used to be a really big fan of hers but recently have definitely changed my mind.
Seems to me that she’s just concerned about her career and the money she’s making. with a massive platform she doesn’t really use it for any good or raising any awareness for current issues happening but only to advertise and support PLT which is an unethical brand.
I think Mr Bartlett is a very good interviewer. I wish him nothing but the best moving forward with his career
There is a lot to be said about someone who thinks money and ‘the grind’ is more important or valuable than human connection and friendship.
Totally agree. I think she is very young and values will change as she gets older. I hope so anyway.
Not really. People leave and hurt you. Money doesn’t.
I think progress is what makes molly truly happy that’s why she keeps chasing the next thing. She lives by elevating herself so inspiring ❤️
Another great episode and rather insightful but was expecting a bit more depth to be honest. I don’t agree that when everyone comes out of Love Island you are all on a level playing field. A big part of that (in my opinion) is the way they are perceived on the show, how much they are shown etc. I think diversity is also a big thing and that can make a big difference, from what I’ve seen, in terms of how well some do and don’t when they leave. Hard work is important but everything else plays a part
Thank You Steven and Molly, for a really illuminating Interview! I so Totally Enjoyed Every Minute of this Amazing Conversation!!! 💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚
I can’t strangely help but feel a little bit sorry for her ? Always wanting more is a slippery slope
Young people always want more, it's natural
when she says she always wants more she means with like work and business. doesnt mean she’s not happy and content with where she is now it just shows she has a really good work ethic.
She says life isn’t about money, then literally a couple of minutes later said she doesn’t enjoy going out with friends because she’d rather be thinking of ways to make money… what a hypocrite. This interview is full of hypocrisy and coinciding comments.
A mass of contradictions? Not a criticism, just an observation
Turning 30 next year I had the same mindset at 22. All I ever wanted to do was succeed in what I was doing. This very second I’m planning on leaving the job I’ve built for so long because I’ve been so blind to what satisfies me. I’ll never get what I’m looking for trying to be the best I can in a job role. I need to be the best I can be in my existence. Work and money isn’t happiness. It’s a sense of accomplishment which doesn’t seem to be fulfilled. No lie though, she knows exactly how to do what she’s doing
I must admit, this interview has shown a new light of molly. Not in the best way..
I agree but please elaborate
Agreed 100%
@@Rose_19911 She is ignorant. She screams about 'the same 24 hours we all have to be successful blah blah' she also went on a tv show which heightened her career, which put her onto where she is now. She was also given opportunities the average person would not. A lot of us have real responsibilities where we can't afford to work instead of sleep. She needs to recognise her privilege, she's a white woman who went on love island, of course she will be somewhat successful.
@@reema7016 yes agreed
It just shows she's like most influencers, pretty stupid lol
As a carer for my mother, me and molly definitely do not have the same 24 hours in the same day..
I really love her. She’s a smart girl, she knows what she’s doing and I praise her for that. I’m so pleased she listened to her close ones and reversed her cosmetic procedures before it became irreversible. Also love how focussed she is on business and reaching her goals. She’s brilliant 🤩
me too, i absolutely admire and look up to Molly. She’s so smart with her mindset and i’m the same in the sense i have a small circle and try and work on just me, and it can be so challenging without social media, press and paparazzi in the mix. I think she’s incredible in how she handles everything and how mature she is. honestly love her ❤️
She's not smart. She didn't know what a mortgage or gross profit is, and she's 22. She's only gotten to where she is solely for her looks and privilege.
yuck
She is not smart. She just happened to have an extremely talented team to help her
@@praveeshachapman677 where does she discuss profit and a mortgage? I must’ve missed it
It’s all about money. Many celebrities don’t actually talk like this in interviews “I must make money all my life.” They just talk about what they love doing and life in general without the pay cheque. Without shouting out I’m a millionaire like this interview did.
They're probably thinking it but they don't admit it like Molly does. She's only 22. Clearly needs some media training.
I'm usually a big fan of this podcast and have listened to all the episodes. Thank you for making some amazing content over the years.
This was an interesting chat and Molly Mae came across as relatable (being 22 I think she's allowed to have some contradictions and not be certain on everything yet.)
However, I have felt recently that some episodes (including this one, also Anne Boden and David Gandy) have had pre approved areas that can / can't be discussed with a PR team or manager.
I think the original success of the podcast was built on us feeling like it was the most honest and in-depth interview that we would have heard with this person, and I'd love for future episodes to try and retain that.
In this episode, it felt like obvious questions around fast fashion and the contradictions Molly Mae made were avoided (possibly in the interests of making this positive PR for her.)
I think there can be a balance, where guests are made to feel comfortable, but still answer difficult questions to make us get a good understanding of their different complex characters and feelings. Often such honestly and vulnerability can help us warm to them more.
This is often achieved (in episodes like the brilliant Patrice Evra one) so it's not intended as a major criticism, it's more a suggestion around how the best possible content can be made for future episodes- asking guests to be as open as possible and not having areas they can avoid.
Thank you for consistently sharing new content and the range of guests that have come on recently.
Such a good bit of feedback. They’re better off not interviewing someone at all, than interviewing them through a filtered lens. Completely eradicates the authenticity that originally made this podcast so compelling.
This is such good feedback Helen, I agree
I would imaging that the questions are given to Molly-Mae before this gets recorded and she has the last word of what questions will be asked x
Molly is promoting fast fashion an industry with huge ethical concerns that nothing is being done about e.g sweatshop labour, mistreatment of workers in the UK and abroad - bad conditions and extremely low pay (the garments are so cheap for a reason). Environmental issues- fabrics being made in developing countries in factories that dump toxic chemicals into waterways that millions rely on so they are becoming sick with cancer and other diseases, huge seas are drying up because of the amount of water needed. As the top influencer in uk she has directly caused a huge increase in popularity of this destructive industry pushing it onto millions of young followers. I don't buy her nice act at all, she said herself will go to any length to get what she wants, at the expense and suffering of others clearly very selfish. Disappointed Steven didn't call this out given the sustainable sponsor of the video, its very hypocritical and if he's friends with plt founder then he should question his morals and stop sucking up to these money hungry people
She’s 22? It’s not one persons (a 22 year olds) responsibility to dictate a company’s practices. You don’t know the impact or conversations she’s bringing to the table.
@@laurasayer3360 lol
@@laurasayer3360 but she's the head of this company, she can definitely make a difference. If she cared at all, she wouldn't even be working for them. She clearly only cares about money and not about anyone or anything else
@@lucysutton7420 I know it may seem that way, but Pretty Little Thing has a huge board of directors - there’s around 11 in total, and that’s only the directors! Although the media may make this job title sound incredibly important, Molly really will have little to no say in organisational practices. 22 is so young and this may not be her path forever, and yes PLT practices are incredibly destructive (I have never purchased from them) but why does society find it so uncomfortable when a women vocalises she is driven by money?
@@laurasayer3360 I'm not saying it's bad she's motivated by money. It's just that's all she's motivated by. It sounds like the reason she doesn't have friends is because she can't make money from having friends and also saying that she didn't want what her parents have. Which is a very middle class happy life just shows she's never gonna be happy cause she always wants more. Which in my opinion is an awful way to be and also super disrespectful to her parents who clearly grafted in the police and she was dismissing their jobs.
I really liked Molly Mae until I watched this podcast, because I feel like some of the comments that she makes about particular questions come across quite insensitive and almost slightly deluded. First of all, we can all appreciate that Molly has done well for herself since coming out of Love Island, and has put herself out there into the industry a lot more then many of the other people to come off of that show, but it is not just hard work that got her into this position, she went on one of the biggest reality TV shows with one of the biggest audiences and the guy she coupled up with is Tyson Fury's brother who is very well known. These factors, as much as she doesn't like to admit it openly, contribute DRAMATICALLY to her success. She has used the position that she was in after coming off of the show very wisely and used that to make a name for herself, and no one is disputing that but she needs to be a bit more open and honest with her audience, and even with herself about where her success really came from and what factors contributed to it. There is also the issue of her talking about having a small circle and seeing friends as a "waste of time" which I completely disagree with. Yes making money and being financially stable and self sufficient are very important, but when you don't have people to then share that success and freedom with, surely that is very lonely and isolating. You can still be ambitious and achieve your goals in business while maintaining good friendships, and if everyone else seems to be able to balance that then why can't she?. And then the final thing is when she is talking about us "all having the same 24 hours in a day" which is so completely false and shows such a huge sense of privilege it is actually unbelievable. How can she sit there and say that while being the creative director of a brand that pays their workers less then the minimum wage, and is one of the biggest contributions to the fast fashion industry and sells such poor quality items. These workers can barely afford to feed their families, while she makes millions a year being an influencer and going on all these brand trips and living in nice apartments and always buying designer items and never having to worry about when her next meal is going to come or how she will make it through the month, yet they supposedly have the same 24 hours? just is not right at all.
She is too immature to have a child too. I don't think she even knows who she is yet. Imagine bringing a kid up to believe that friends are a waste of time
This woman is unbelievably cocky, having the audacity to say that she didn't need Love Island to succeed. She enjoys the life and privileges that she does, largely thanks to Love Island. She is a shockingly bad influence on young women.
She would never want the ordinary life she had before...it's like she looks down on ordinary people, who do ordinary jobs that keep society afloat...
She doesn't value friendships...what a shallow person.
I hope her bubble isn't going to burst and that she will be a happy person in future...but I fear that her fans who idolise her and aspire to be like her to and attain her level of success and the "idyllic lifestyle" she leads, realise that we do not all have the same 24 hours in a day in the way she imagines.
This girl had had a charmed life. She has had it easy all along, a comfortable upbringing, good looks etc. and Love Island was the platform which elevated her to the dizzy heights of privilege, success and luxury in which she finds herself now.
Also hrr saying confidence is not something u can build on is utter bullshit... shes clearly ignorant and shallow minded... if it wasnt for love island just like she falled at performing arts, she wouldnt have had the same level of sucess she has now....
@@greentea6394 performing acts?
@@kappett322 lol sorry meant performing arts
@@greentea6394 this pissed me off too. she talks about herself like she’s built different
*“Wealth consists not in having great possessions, but in having few wants.” ―Epictetus*
This is freedom. She’s a slave to her never-ending wants.
With the more and more comment, I would say anyone in their early 20s would relate to because you're so excited and want that adventure. You are just so intrigued by what is out there and you want to explore everything. Your 20s can be quite impulsive and impatient but with age and growth a person learns to become stable and more calm
I’m at the 12 minute mark. Molly talks about her confidence and it’s something you’re born with and not something you build on. I hope I didn’t misinterpret because I don’t think that’s necessarily correct. You can build your confidence as you accomplish things. Otherwise there’s no hope for anyone!
Parents instill your confidence. If one is born with it then your parent can either shatter it or reinforce. She is just blah blah blah.......
i’ve always found it incredible how even though i never and will probably never have any where near how much money molly has she’s always seemed so relatable to me and inspiring
I'm really disappointed in this. I don't agree with most of what she says, particularly the rubbish about how we all have the same 24 hours in a day, which just proves to me how drastically out of touch she is with reality. I understand why you got MM on, but she really offers very little insight at all into success. She became massive due to Love Island and she is so self absorbed that it's very hard to like her. I'm sure she is a nice person but I don't agree with what she says, at all.
Does she not realise that her parents "ordinary life" is one of the very reasons she has been able to get where she is today.. smh
Exactly my thoughts, her confidence contradicts what she is saying, and also attributes from a stable life growing up which most of the population would not have had
How can you say this with any degree of certainty? Ridiculous.
Majority of the UK population come from two parent households with jobs... it's not really a particular advantage.
It's not like she was born into wealth.
@@arsenewenger9351she is middle upper class. Both parents are police officers
@@JangoBlader last time I checked police officers dont make that much money compared to the average UK salary
I love molly! I'm 37 and really enjoy her content and personality, what an inspiring woman, only wish good things for her!
She’s fantastic isn’t she! Thanks for watching Jenna
A wise yet successful person once said "There's nothing like getting to the top and discovering there's nothing there..."
I have to agree with Molly about the friends part. A lot of people are shocked but friends can be harmful to you. There are a lot of red flags in friends that we sometimes turn a blind eye to, and as harsh as it sounds is true. Not every friend has the best intentions for you so you have to distance yourself and at some point you will find your tribe.
👌🏼👌🏼 spot on
no of course, everyone would agree with that. but that’s not all she said. she thinks having friends is a waste of time
Same here! The person whom I thought was my best friend since childhood ended up spiking me in the club and harming me after. I needed years of therapy to recover after the incident. It’s shocking how people in this comment section are so quick to criticise Molly without considering other viewpoints and experiences. Some people have been badly betrayed by people whom they considered “friends”.
Plus others might be diagnosed with mental health difficulties such as social anxiety, which may make making friends harder for them.
exactly
People without friends are usually the ones with the red flags tbh
don't get me wrong, I love Molly Mae I watch her channel and I love her - but this podcast has shown a different side to her. she says money can't buy happiness and you don't need all these lavish things to feel successful, however she contradicts herself by constantly talking about money and how everything isn't enough and that she always wants more? idk she comes across a bit self righteous in this interview which is something I didn't really expect from her...
YES VERY SELF RIGHTEOUS and has a complex, think she’s lovely but tone deaf
I agree, I always saw her as a genuine influencer but her motives of making money the goal (it seems) questions that for me
agreed
I really think it’s a lot to do with her age. She’ll have different answers 5-10 years from now 100%
This was a fascinating discussion. I find that I relate most to people who are not obsessed with being ahead of their audience. It feels so authentic and insightful to hear someone speak about their feelings of fear and doubt and how they still have not overcome them. However, they are still finding ways to thrive despite the fear. I was about to give up on pursuing my MBA next year, due to funding issues... and now I'm going to give myself the opportunity and see what comes of it. Much love and appreciation from South Africa.
I think it would be so good to review this interview each year… a bit like what Vanity Fair do with Billie to see how much the people you interview grow! Molly would be an awesome person to start with ☺️
I had never heard of her, but she has done well and whatever you think of her, you can’t knock her commitment! 👏🏾
She comes across as someone who is very cold, calculating and who's definition of success seems to stem from her value as a commodity and her ownership of material possessions which is why she doesn't seem to be happy as she alluded to. Love island was a calculated move even down to her relationship with Tommy Fury which has opened her up to a number of new audiences. If Tommy Fury get's knocked out by Jake Paul don't be surprised if Molly looks to get rid. The example of her 'screaming down the phone at this person on customer service who could do nothing about it but would make me feel better' is also quite telling.
that’s the impression i got too and very ironic considering that her whole brand is that she’s the nice, relatable girl
I feel like she’s just quite reserved, and focused and knows what she wants. She has a small circle of people in her life that she cares about, likes to work hard, and work for what she wants.
I had no idea who Molly was before this episode and holy hell what an amazing story!
Loved this episode Steven, thank you. I would have loved to hear you ask molly about how she feels being the face of such a damaging business/is she has any plan to encourage PLT to slow down their production speed and pay their garment workers a living wage.
Amazing video. Proud of molly mae in what she’s achieved. Such a roll model for young men and women. I don’t understand why people are so so afraid on how they look. It’s shouldn’t be the way. Everyone is beautiful in there own individual way. Remember that.
"Why I'm not sharing myself online anymore" while sharing herself online via RUclips video. Brilliant.
She also said social media is her brand and her job. So that’s clearly not what she meant. She’s not overly showing her personal things due to the robbery
@@kay6584 Does announcing your new house in Cheshire and doing a tour not count as overly sharing? She's a narcissist who's career is built on thinking her life is so interesting to share.
@@JG-sx6vt you do realise for her to have obtained this level of success, her audience must find her interesting as they are largely responsible for her growth. So it’s not narcissistic, she’s living what’s now her normal life & gets paid off it. Unless the majority of her views are fake fans like you ofc, seems as you care enough to watch the video but comment so negatively
@@kay6584 What was I saying? I'm glad this entitled narcissist is getting the back lash she deserves. Thinks she's the centre of the universe. Needs to grow up and realise she's just been very lucky.
@@JG-sx6vt I knew you was going to comment again🤣 she defo does fail to recognise the entirety of her privilege yes. But that’s not what your original comment was about. I did recognise flaws in the interview whilst watching it, but somebody who’s heavily in the public eye like this will always be under a microscope when sharing their life is literally their job. People need to lay off her a bit, they’re only making her more famous
I like the sound effect of the transition, flipping pages kinda sound. Good job for someone who edited this! Loved the details
I'll never understand people who allow themselves be "influenced" by the likes of Molly Mae,not knocking her at all,she jumped on a bandwagon and where most fall off she's stayed on but she's hardly someone that kids should be influenced by.
Molly has so much power and influence that she could really change the game in the fashion industry. Yet she chooses to work with fast fashion brands like PLT instead. I definitely respect her and her work ethic and wish her the best, just wish she'd use her platform in a more positive way.
Katie Luise, i don't think Prada and Louis Vitton would want to deal with secondary reality tv characters and doesn't matter how pretty they are. there isn't in an in between classy fashion brand that would want any of those love island characters.so Pretty lil' Thangs is all there is. and they paid her well but fast fashion is effing up this planet . she can get the bag
She "only had £100 left a week" Yet still went to starbucks? This kid knows nothing about the real world, she's always had a safety net . I pitty the young who follow these so called "influencers". Fact is she got a lucky break because she's pretty/fit, made it on to a very popular TV programme ,millions of others just like her didn't and won't ever. She's selling dream a thatcherite dream at that . Turn off your phones kids and just live YOUR best lives
£100 a month but yeah
To say ‘we all have the same 24 hours’ is incredibly ignorant and unfair. As a white, attractive, slim woman living in the UK, coming from a home with food, heating, and money - she DOES NOT have the same 24 hours as other people. People living in poverty DO NOT have the same 24 hours as someone like her.
Totally agree.. 👍Xx
So here’s the thing. I think there’s more to being an instagrammer or influencer than people realise for sure but… it’s still a piss easy job. Let’s not beat around the bush. Working hard is slaving away on a building site in the freezing cold at 6 in the morning for peanuts.
Influencing is not a piss easy job. And slaving away on a building site in the freezing cold @ 6am is working hard but not working smart. Comparing a construction worker & influencer doesn’t make sense!
@@mazal9895 Ok but 55 year old Dave with a bit of a beer belly is not about to pose in his new Balenciagas for the gram is he? And yes, it is piss easy compared to MOST other jobs.
Working hard is working in the nhs and getting paid hardly anything, not even being able to afford your own house!!
@@mazal9895 it is piss easy. You just turn on a camera and record yourself doing nonsensical things. It's how goons like ksi or Jake Paul made a name for themselves. She's not a proper genius like an engineer or doctor, or an entrepreneur who has developed a product. She's just a normal fashion designer helped by her team. Loads of singers and actors do it, using their name to sell their crap brand.
Still very young. A good family up bringing. Intelligent, attractive, seen on reality TV, social media followers, confident, lucky and motivated.🙌🏼 Prob wrong thing to say she has worked her arse off. As I have to say, other people in the world have worked a lot harder. Ask an older person. Hard work is more than exhausting.
You can see a sense of gratitude for what’s she’s achieved yet she’s protective of her achievements and who she allows in her circle.
Big Molly Mae fan, and some comments didn’t hit well BUT we have to remember she is only 22, and most of those will come with maturity and age. Scientifically, your prefrontal context (rational part of your brain) doesn’t connect til 25
I mean if she’s old enough to be an ambassador to a multi million pound company, she sure as hell is old enough to be judged like one
@@SupremeST25 so true and me and a lot of people quite a bit younger than her aren’t as out of touch as she is. maybe it’s because of all the privileges she’s had growing up that have made her think like this
How can people say this girl is a lovely person when she works for such an exploitative company🤨 if she’s so clever why is she so ignorant of the injustices the company she works for is creating. She may have a business mind but not an ethical conscience (as also shown when she imported an inbred puppy from Russia) I wish someone would actually ask for her views on this. It’s great young girls are looking to business women as role models but Molly Mae’s ignorance is concerning 🥴
I think she chooses not to answer questions on this. I assume they ask you before hand what you do and don’t want to talk about.
11:49 is what you guys are here for
Thanks you 🙏🏼
Love when she was talking about how much looked up to Patrica Bright !