Is Mega Man X DiVE Offline Worth Playing?
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2023
- Mega Man X DiVE Offline has been released on Steam, and people wondered what my thoughts were. So I figured, why not? I bought the game and gave it a whirl to see how my experience changed.
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Here's how I honestly see it: it's an online game made offline.. by the ACTUAL developers! Love or hate it, that means the game is preserved to some extent.
That's a massive win.
Fair point
is only good if the game is good and I dont consider Megaman X gacha trash that is not Megaman X9 a good game.
@@raulrojas9253 I think even bad games should be preserved. It's history.
@AlmalekeLoL they ESPECIALLY should be preserved. Folks will emulate successful games to death but miss the bad things that conplicate a game be abuse they don't remember the failures.
@@NotThatGuy_YepThatGuy folks emulate the bad games too. That's why you can play shit like food mascot games
One important thing J didn't bring up is how you can modify the gameplay and controls to feel more like a console game.
In the settings menu whilst in a stage, you can scroll down and see options like enabling or disabling manual aim, auto aim, precise jump (controlling the jump height by holding the button longer, like in X-X8).
This changes make it feel more in line with the previous X, it doesn't feel as much like you're playing a phone game.
Oh, blimey. Now I might actually try it again, because the controls felt so, so SO off to me.
Though, that won’t fix how bad sabres feel.
can you change the UI size? because those buttons are HUGE and annoying
@@Badbufon You can't change the size, but you can make them more transparent. I'd suggest 65-80 percent, not completely transparent, because you need to see your ammo/skills meter.
@@BadbufonAlso worth noting that the mobile version DOES let you change the UI scale and positioning, but for some reason that isn't supported in the Steam versions.
is there controller support though? If there is then I'd probably consoder picking it up.
I hate the price tag though, $30 would be fine if this wasn't just a repurposed gacha game. Everything when it came to the main game is already done and Capcom already got the money when it was a gacha so pricing it at $30 is insulting, some $15 games are putting this game to shame. Capcom would probably blame Megaman if this inevitably doesn't sell well.
The biggest thing for me about this game is just that this concept is now out there.
The concept of taking a F2P gacha game that hit the end of its life time, and just giving a offline version for people to keep enjoying what the game has in it.
It's probably wishful thinking, but I really hope this becomes a common thing to do. Ever since I started playing this game, I looked at all the gacha game I play with a sense of "If they made an offline version I can see how they could change this, or that".
Fate/Grand Order, Azur Lane, Honkai Star Rail (or all Mihoyo games really) are ones that I have played for a long time now and can immediately see how good an offline version like this would be for all of them.
Heck, I think a game like Genshin, specifically, would be 100 times better if an offline version were to happen.
But I know, this is probably never gonna happen and X Dive will be one of, if not the only game that even tries to do this. Afterall, why sell something to people if it doesn't keep making more money.
Dragon project should've definitely gotten an offline version
I completely agree with this sentiment. I've met so many people who aren't into the gacha style of games (or already play a few and don't want to take on another one) so having a way to preserve them and remove/balance some of the aspects that are meant to drain your wallet could open the door to a wider audience and in some cases make for a more enjoyable experience overall.
The game you pointing out will never be out of Service anytime soon considered how crazy those games made money
I think you should look to something like Tales of Crestoria, Luminaria
I REALLY hope this happens to Fate GO. I dont have a Phone to play it on and have issues getting it to keep working on Blue Stacks, so I can no longer play it. Lets hope this does well enough that Companies see it as being worth doing later.
I would imagine that Devil May Cry game, the one also made and maintained by Nebula Joy, would probably be up for the same treatment. But that's just assuming based on being the same companies involved. No idea if that DMC game is even worth saving, as I've never played it.
- You can set the directional controls to the dpad.
- The armor Mega Man uses in the game comes from Mega Man 7, not 6. The one from 6 was different
There were TWO in 6, the Power Adaptor and the Jet Adaptor. They were combined into the Super Adaptor in 7, giving the best of both worlds (with a homing rocket punch to boot). Still can't slide, though.
I would gladly pay for offline versions of these gacha games.
Mario Kart Tour Offline sounds fine to me.
Too bad people hated paying 10 bucks for Super Mario Run, so Mario Kart 8 Deluxe DLC it is.
You say that then there are people complaining that its a ripoff they're charging money for this game
@@BionicleforeverI paid the 10 bucks for Super Mario Run back then.
No complains.
Thats good, sadly your in the minority though. I think people only value mobile games at like 2 dollars like from angrybirds back in the day @@MegaManNeo
The new FF7 game is one I pray gets this treatment. I shed a tear when I saw it was gacha lol
Being based on a gacha game there will be a few quirks that are unavoidable. The big one is power creep. More recent characters tend to be stronger because the game had to keep things exciting for existing players while it was still free to play. So if 2nd Armor X feels like he can't take a lot of punishment, it's probably because he has none of the defensive abilities (shields, healing) that were uncommon in the early game but practically mandatory as time went on. Likewise, the story doesn't really justify the massive amount of content because that content was meant to be drip fed over a couple of years and not dumped all at once.
Still, I love the concept of taking an online game at end of life and releasing an offline version for posterity. I cannot tell you how much I wish Dragalia Lost got that treatment (that game had a TON of story content). But, the NebulaJoy version of DiVE is still going, so I'll keep playing that for now. Some day, though, I absolutely will pick up Offline.
What I like the most about this game is to be able to keep playing a game that I enjoyed a lot even after the official servers shut down. I think that it is actually a nice idea and there are quite a few gacha games that I whsh had followed that practice, especially Terra Battle or Dragalia Lost. I do hope that some other games will follow this example in the future, because, yeah, watching a game that you played for years and enjoyed a lot shut down forever is not pleasing at all.
I honest to God hope King of Fighters All-Star eventually does something like that.
I hope JP Magia Record does this and the someone does an English patch.
Ouh god terra battle T_T
I just wish they would go the 20XX/30XX, or Harmony Of Despair route and let people play co-op. It’s so much more fun to at least bounce off your friends all playing along, even if the gameplay is simple. May not be a mega hit still, but it at least provides longevity if you’re playing through stages and you’re tired of playing by yourself.
Well maybe modders (if there are any mods for this) can make it happen? Ive seen some other games given multiplayer mods so it’s prob possible
@@earnirplaygames9172yeah, but modding online into it takes a long of time in the modding scene. Take Skyrim and Cruelty Squad as examples, Skyrim Together was a recent achievement by the community, and it was finished after like a decade of its launch, and it helped a lot that Skyrim uses the same engine as Morrowind and Oblivion. Cruelty Squad on the other hand has its multiplayer still in development, and its still under heavy testing so it will take a while to be implemented properly.
I like the game but as you said it yourself, it is meant to be enjoyed in quick bursts which is cool by me since I often take my SteamDeck with me in the train to work.
The Online version never released in Europe and I barely buy games anyway, so I just grabbed something from a series I like.
I assume you mean the original steam version of Xdive online as the mobile versions have always been available in Europe for some time now (barring being banned in some countries due to gambling laws).
In the 2000s, before all of the monetization schemes, people were impressed when a game was online. Now, with all of the monetization schemes around, people are impressed when a game is offline. 😄
Something of note is the modding scene has started picking up with X Dive Offline, and some of the released mods are both impressive and so beneficial to the game's quality of life features. Buffs to all of the old B- and A- rank characters, new weapons like Axl's dual guns, the Devil May Cry collab being restored, and they even recently released Prometheus from ZX as a brand new character.
While the online game was held back by a shrinking budget as the player count kept dropping, I hope we get to see the community continue unofficial updates for the game to keep improving the experience. I haven't given up hope that we'll see Lumine added to the game 🤞
The thing about X DiVE Offline Mods is that it's STEAM VERSION ONLY.
Mobile Players are unfortunately lucked out of this one.
The glass cannon part was likely done for one of two reasons: either to make you take the 3 star requirement seriously or because characters like Cinnamon had self healing skills that everyone abused like crazy on story mode for the former.
Also the removal of online elements would be something I consider an improvement, given the online game kinda forgot to take power levels into account when doing PVP. This lead me to many battles that I couldn't win because my opponent and I were in completely different weight classes and viceversa.
The Offline version's also got an update to the bittersweet ending of the online release.
Is the translation of the dialogue any better in the Offline version? The Online version was definitely serviceable enough that I could understand what was going on, but you could definitely tell it was done by people that didn't speak fluent English, or at least didn't speak it as a first language. Even the official mobile EN release had a near identical translation with only a few things here and there changed (such as referring to mavericks as "mavericks" like they were in English, rather than "irregular" which was used in Japan and in the Steam version.)
@@randomnpc445 don't know, I played the ES version. It called mavericks "irregulares", which is like the third term used in spanish because X8 called them mavericks and ZXA called them disidentes.
Either way, it's also possible that jp name "irregular data" was used unaltered on purpose back then because it sounded more like software terms and because before the introduction of iCO it really did seem like the Deep Log was just bugging out.
If he felt squishy, that means he wasn't upgrading his armor and/or the cards
A few thoughts as someone who is on the cusp of Platinum Trophying the game:
The glass canon problem is something I experienced as well, but you can fix that by grinding for Shock and Screws, then going to the Armor Repository and purchasing, equipping, and upgrading armor, which not only increases your power level, but also VASTLY increases your defense to make the experience much more balanced.
Unfortunately, this is one of the MANY things the game simply doesn't tell you, which leads to my big problem with this game.
XDive Oflline was not designed to be enjoyed seamlessly by people who skipped the online version. All of the various tutorials and explanations in the Online version are completely absent in the Offline version, meaning if you don't know how anything works because you skipped or quit the Online version, you'll likely be completely lost playing the Offline one.
One of the biggest and most fun elements of the game is the events, which unlock at level 60 and are playable at 300000 power level (give or take), but picking them involves clicking a drop down menu and just activating them from a list, almost like they just left an element of the Dev Kit in the game. No picture depicting which each event is or anything. If you didn't play the Online version and don't recognize the event titles, you won't know what a lot of them are until you activate and go to them in the Event menu.
Furthermore, there are characters/armors that are simply much more useful than others in terms of utility, and if you didn't play the Online version, you simply won't know which ones are which, and because the game is so new, there isn't much in the ways of guides to tell you which characters are dope.
Falcon Armor X, for example, while low in most poeople's tier lists, has his Glide feature from X5, allowing you to break level terrain and find hidden elements much more easily, (finding all 250 is required for the platinum -_-) but you might not know this because quite a few armors/characters don't have 'all' of their iconic abilities. X2 and X3 armors for example don't have their item finders, which would have been REALLY USEFUL IN THIS GAME. X4's armor also doesn't have hover, which is a crime. Axl doesn't have his hover ability either. Harpuia can't fly, even though you'd think he would be able to, since he's based off the Falcon Armor, which 'can.'
There's also certain characters that are just more fun to play. Gaia armor X's Buster skill has virtually NO charge time or cooldown, but limited range like in X5, so you playing him feels a lot closer to playing a traditional X game in some respects. Another Iris, a version of Iris that is fused with Coloniel, has a guard that makes her invulnerable and heals her, making her fun and balanced.
There's also just a TON of subskills and passives and all these things that were designed to maximize your performance in PVP that are just left in the game. Zero has a Shield subskill for Rekkouha that is kind of vital to his toolkit, but you might overlook it with all of the clutter.
All in all, I still think this game is a lot of fun and 100% worth it if you're a diehard Megaman fan, but if you skipped XDive during it's Online run, you'll probably want to look into a guide before hopping into Offline blind.
i just hope they can add all the event and holiday armours. i loved using the white day ico/rico
I was always very interested in the original, but never got it as I was driven away from the gacha mechanics and absurd microtransactions.
Now that those have pretty much been removed, I'd absolutely consider buying it. Good to know it's playable and even fun.
This actually looks right up my alley. I liked the online content, but I hated the micro transactions. So now that it’s not a focus for the offline version. I’m gonna buy it for sure, thanks for this review, and looking. Forward to your next megaman and sonic videos. Love those.
Jesus I wish they'd stop remaking titles and just make X9 and Legends 3 already.
Dude MegaMan X Corrupted would be out before X9 and DASH 3.
Show me these remade megaman titles
@ayopeep6067 There's a 1 hour gameplay showcase of Mega Man X Corrupted on RUclips
We need Legends 3 already to get my brother off the moon…
@@EXPeepik Mega Man X alone has been remade twice and rereleased on four separate occasions. Also I was talking about games and movies in general, not just Megaman.
I was rewatching the X6 rereview, and saw the notification popup
Looking forward to see your stand on OffDiVE
Actually Super Mega Man is the version from mega man 7. He even shares the exact same booster animation and charge fist
Man, I don’t know how I completely forgot about that. It has been too long since so last played those games.
Hmm you ever think about covering 20XX and 30XX as follow up to your Megaman stuff?
There's also Gravity Circuit
These catch a games might be clear cashgrabs but we gotta be grateful for the sick-ass designs they have given us.
Iris Another is perfect.
Gatcha, not catch a. I assume it's because of auto-correct, but I still wanted to mention it.
Megaman X Dive in general is a horny gamer heaven.
As a massive monster hunter fan, I absolutely love some of the crossover designs like crimson glow zero or shargaru armor x
@@robertlupa8273 Auto-correct definitely. Thanks for poiting it out
@@robertlupa8273 Auto-correct definitely. Thanks for poiting it out
Was super curious about this game so I'm glad you covered it. I'll probably wait for a sale because yeah I'm not spending 30 bones on a previously free game.
It was previously "free" but you were goign to have to either spend money or a lot of time from all the micro transactions built into it.
So the fact you basically get the game's full roaster and upgrades and no extra cost is an absolute steal.
Chances are if you played the mobile version you were going to be paying well over $30 eventually.
So don't shame them for charging a one time $30 fee instead of bogging down the experience to make you spend money on things in game.
@@metazoxan2for me, the issue isn't so much that the game was free previously but you'd spend a lot more trying to get everything the offline version provides, as much as the game design makes the game not feel worth the price it is given.
TBH, the 3D models and animations might make the game worth the 30 bones (they seem to have care and detail out into them), but being a game that wasn't made with long play sessions in mind, it is hard to justify to yourself, as a consumer, to spend them without personal issues.
Also take into account that the most they did was rebalance some things around, and since they haven't shut down the service in all regions they must be making decent bank out of it regardless, so the $30 still stink of greed a bit with that context.
@@KuroeNezumi youve never played gacha games have you?
youd be spending way more than just 30 bucks on loot boxes. or you know, time investment.
you gain things like, SUPER SUPER quick in the offline version, drops are generous, and it's actually good now.
@@metazoxan2 i can buy hollow knight with this money, i am sure as hell going to shame them for charging the game this high.
It was only free to draw in players and hope some spend on microtransactions. It has to make money. Now all that extra stuff is in the game and selling for a set price, which many want, but you don't think it should be paid for? Now you can look at the content and see if it's worth the price or eorth a sale price. But just because it was free in a different form doesn't mean rhe full package isn't worth buying.
if you feel like a glass cannon, it might not be a bad idea to check the power bar on the top left to see what area you are lacking in for power. it could help make the game play a bit better for you.
While X DiVE lacks the quality of an actual Megaman X game (in my opinion), it was a pretty smart move from Capcom to release an "offline" mode now that the live service will be shutting down in a few days. It's nice from a preservation standpoint and you can still enjoy the whole game without the microtransactions.
I really wanted to try since I felt the same way about the online version, but 30$ converts do 120BRL in Brazil, way more than I can afford in a game that was free before and with microtransactions.
Oh hi, I just started watching your Megaman X reviews from my X4 and X6 nastolgic binge
I was going to start my own next week!
I was pretty excited when this was announced, and $30 is definitely a lot less than I would have spent on the Online version trying to get all of the content/characters that I would have wanted but especially with me still playing through the BN Legacy Collection I think I will wait and see if the price drops at all in the coming months. Definitely want to pick this game up and see the awesome models that they made for it but after waiting this long already for a version I would play a few more months isn't going to hurt.
I personally liked it. I'm willing to fork out money for a game that I liked. Plus it's the most recent acknowledgement of megaman x in recent capcom history. Plus there are characters that people would dream to play as. Vile and sigma being a good example.
As a longtime Megaman fan and someone who regularly spends on mobile games, this is pretty much a dream come true for me. Because of the cash grab nature of mobile games though, they don't usually live very long and there are times I wish I could play the offline version of it with everything unlocked.
30 bucks in a mobile game is like 20 gacha pulls. Hell I've seen some niche games have 3000 yen price tag on their monthly pass(Genshin Impact's is 5 bucks for comparison). I'm not saying mobile game's monetizaiton isn't egregious or anything because it totally is but all things considered, 20 gacha pulls worth of money for everything isn't bad.
Exactly. 30 dollars for basically every pull is an absoute steal.
This does indicate an issues with the forced value placed into mobile games ... but still if you ever wanted to play this then the $30 price tag is WAY BETTER than a lot of people give it credit for.
@@metazoxan2 true. And I don't deny how messed up it is to think 30 bucks is "good". Microtransactions are way too expensive nowadays and I'm completely aware I'm part of the problem.
@@metazoxan2 Absolutely. On one hand, it's ridiculous that gacha games charge 5-10x the price of a triple A game to guarantee a character. On the other hand, I'm fully aware I'm part of the problem.
This release is special regardless of quality. There are very very few games that can’t be permanently preserved and this was one of them. I can’t downplay releases like this, this game can now be played for generations
Personally I enjoyed it a lot and while it does have it's flaws, it's worthwhile in my opinion. Also power fantasy seeing characters destroying stuff with silly things is just always a win. Like, Vile being destroyed by a Bouquet from Bridal Alia is just funny.
You can change in the settings from joystick to d-pad it is at the bottom of the settings
I have not finished the video but I want to say something inbetween before I forgot it!
at around 2:40 you mention that the game wants you to play it with a analog stick, HOWEVER, in the previously mentioned button customization, you CAN customize the the movement towards the D-Pad, making the game MUCH better to play! I use a PS4 controller WITHOUT additional software, it works with steam on itself.
I also hear from some people that you can turn off the auto aim, but I have yet to find that option...
Big Mega Man project in the works?? I'm excited!
I'm confused why you weren't able to use the D-Pad to move, maybe it depends on the controller? I use the 8Bit Do SNES controller and it accepts the D-Pad just fine.
This was a really good and fair review, thanks for covering it!
Also, the modding scene for this is already ramping up. We already have Quint (as a skin), so I'm excited to see who else we get.
You can use the D-pad, just configure it in the menu. I'm not sure why J couldn't do it but when I played the online version I had D-Pad movement
I'm glad you mentioned the firing forward while moving backward mechanic. Allowing players to do this would have had a dramatic impact on the older games and it is a feature i look forward to being included on future releases.
I never play the online version, and I wouldn't call myself a hardcore fan either, but now I already spend so much time on X Dive offline, the biggest selling point for me is still the rooster of character, I mean playable Iris? playable Ciel? I'm sold, and the artwork is good. I would love to see more DLC for this game in the future, like the new Dive Armor for other character, aside from the X series, RiCO, iCO, only Megaman.EXE have Dive Armor, I would like to see Starforce, Zero, ZX, Legend, and the OG Megaman have Dive Armor.
I was curious about what this game was and your video was very helpful in capturing in what i needed to know and see.
I can understand why you initially didn't plan on doing a follow-up video to the original review, but I'm really happy you made this because I'm always curious to see how much a game can recover with a few simple changes to it. Looking forward to your big Mega Man project in two weeks!
Some general opinions and advice:
Now that it isnt a battery-waster to read the dialogue, I found I really enjoyed the character banter. Also, I like how the "Transitioning to Hunter Programs" part of the story can be interpreted as the game going from temporary mobile game to a permanent, preservable Steam game. Also, when you get stuck, Rank 4 (Barrier on Raikousen) Black Zero is there to save the day! 😅
And here I am just nightmare zero blast through everything. Serious nightmare zero is GOAT in terms of visual: enough flashy but not to the point of insanity. And I like how they add additional visual to him, fucking love it
This was a good review. I could see myself getting this on a sale or something.
Thank you for covering this. Winter sale puts this at $19.79 for me, and i think it might play well on my steam deck. Will be a few before i try it though.
Thanks for reviewing this one. Your critiques are (sadly) what I was expecting, but at least I wont be tempted into over paying now! May check it out if it goes 50-75% off someday.
I really hope the concept of Offline (Title) games takes off. I want to play Star Trek Offline, among others. I just don't have the money, time, or social energy to enjoy online or gacha type games, so having these games remastered into an offline edition is really good for me.
they won't, if they do all the cash cows will start realizing they're morons.
bad for the lootbox sales.
Was waiting fir your review to decide whether or not to pick up this game. I'll probably try it when it's on sale. Always wanted to play Mega Man X as Magma Dragoon XD
I feel like this is the perfect Steamdeck game. Something to play when you're not wanting to be super invested in a game, but also something fun enough on its own
Thanks for this. Being a blue bomber fan I’ve been hesitant to try Dive both Mobile when release and now Offline on Steam. This was the perfect review for me and totally agree on cost for Offline version. I’ll what until they do a sale and grab it.
Glad you've covered the offline versdon 👍
This was actually really helpful, rather than a buy this it's great, this felt like you actually showed both sides. I won't be getting it because it's not Battle Network and I didn't love Megaman 11 but this was still good to know.
honestly I love the offline version, and it was really cool to me that they made the offline one, at first I wasnt interested but then I found myself in a mood so I got it and was hooked, its crazy they keep reusing assets from the x8 engine in each of their new x games though, mhx and this, as for you being a glass cannon… you werent buying and upgrading armours were you? its in the repository. Honestly the game inspired me to get back into the x series again, so now I’m replaying through x8 and plan to do a run of x 1 and so on. Wether or not I feel its a good game for 30 bucks? well I did buy it and I had fun, but I can understand someone preferring it being cheaper
Oh also forgot one thing: if you like battle network you should try out one step from eden and the duelisrs of eden demo
I wish the grinding stages weren't necessary if you wanted to experiment with a wide variety of characters and weapons. They could have easily put more rewards into the Jakob's Elevator levels instead. But for me, this game was worth the price of admission just to finally let X use a Buster and Saber with the full move sets of both.
Thank you for the review.
You can use the d-pad for movement; you just need to remap it like everything else (except the manual aim). Also, I should mention since it looks like you have Precise Jump off in your video, if you turn that on you'll jump based on how you long you hold the button like you would in any other Megaman game. As far as balance, coming into this from the Online version, I think they did a really good job of it. Throughout story mode, I never felt too over or under powered, and didn't have to really go grind somewhere else to keep playing. So I think that them cutting the tutorials for the upgrade systems is probably where our play experiences differed so much.
I really wish that each character would interact in the story like axl remind you that you can use him xD
( did not finished the online story got stuck :( )
I'm glad this content has been preserved when so many mobile games are just abandoned.
i just wish it was playable for free like the online version instead of requiring you to pay in order to play it
@@andrewclark3330 I get that but at the same time if you want new Megaman games in any shape or form then ya gotta pay. Otherwise Capcom will have no incentive.
@@andrewclark3330
you get all of the contents from the start until the end of this game's lifespan for a single paid price...
id say its good enough tbh
Good old days I remember playing Rockman/Megaman X dive its sad how it got changed ....( I remember when in 2019 I used to played this in mobile but I quit and started to move on)
I would love to have this on switch
Same, then I’d actually play it
I'll definitely pick up the Offline version when there's a sale. I didn't really get into X Dive because I just don't vibe with mobile gatcha games. But with the micro transactions cut it's worth playing. I just picked up the BN collection on sale, even if we haven't gotten a proper new MegaMan game since 11 I'm glad Capcom has at least done all of these collections. It's so nice having all of the MegaMan games on one system. Here's hoping we get Legends and Star Force soon.
Well J, firstly fair review. I mean it's not the greatest game but tbh, it's something I've always wanted, a game where I can play as just about anyone in the series I can think of lol. It would've been more ideal if we could play in more stages throughout the franchise, and longer more complete stages too to compliment a pc experience. Speaking of the main series tho, there's actually a way to make the game play more like the traditional experience. Firstly, you have to load into a level (I don't know why these options aren't in the main menu too), and once you get control of the character you'll see a pause button at the top left of the screen. Press it and scroll down, you'll see toggles to switch off things like auto aim, give you precise jump, etc.
Also, the modders have put together some interesting content for the game. They restored the dmc stuff, and have made a lot of other character playable, and added a ton of skins.
Thank you, I was wondering about DiVE. As for people's panic about new games I can understand it going a literal decade with virtually nothing, but given the recent sales numbers I do expect Capcom will see the error of their ways.
Been playing this alot on steam deck and i can say wshole heartedly that feels like the best way to play this. Having alot of fun with it and cant wait to see what modders can do
I played the online version for a while in the spring of 2023, and I remember thinking it was reasonably good, although not quite up to the level of the earlier titles-sort of like how Mega Man: Network Transmission felt a bit "off" somehow, even though it had its good points.
I don't remember having the grinding problems that some people did, but I also didn't try to plow through the story mode, either; it seemed like getting your daily rewards by dipping into each gameplay mode for a little bit was enough to level at a brisk pace (or "brisk" by free-to-play standards, anyway), and spamming the special moves of someone like S-rank Zero (who the game just gave to you if you logged in every day for a bit, I think) made it easier to manage some of that early content. But I can totally see how that approach wouldn't be immediately obvious for everyone, or how it might be just off-putting.
I never thought Network Transmission felt off. It felt very responsive in terms of controls like running and jumping. Attacking could feel clunky, but that's because of how chip usage was implemented so that you have to think about how to use them best. Works for the kind of game it is. Heck, the game still feels better to play than any other Mega Man game featuring 3D graphics other than maybe Mega Man 11 (and yes, I'm including the 3D X games too).
It's kind of a back handed compliment, but the one thing I always enjoyed about this game is how casual it is, while retaining the Megaman DNA. I would never recommend it to someone who wants a proper Megaman Experience. However if you just want a simple Megaman game to play that doesn't require your full attention, then this is perfect for it, as some characters are so overpowered that it almost plays itself. So you boot it up, and play the story or elevator while listening to podcasts/audiobooks/whatever you're into.
I might get this game just so I can play either Iris or Ciel, two of my favorite characters from the franchise. So, thank you for this informative video!
I am a fan of drawing things I feel the vibe and rhythm for any game franchise and I would love to add more redesigns of my own for modern character art
I'm not sure why you havent been able to use your D-Pad for this game. I've been using the 8BitDo SN30 Pro and mapping the D-Pad for movement was easy, but that just might be a Steam issue.
As for X DiVE i really enjoy rhe amount of content on offer. I live for min/maxing so games like this where i can hunt for power boosts in a dozen different menus can feel pretty satisfying, topped off with some pretty accurate Mega Man X gameplay once you fiddle with a few of the settings. I'd definitely say its worth the $30.
My man doesn't even have his dive triggers or boss chips yet. It definitely gets more interesting as time goes on. There is a lot of customization. Also, challenge mode. S class X and Zero are also just too op to give you that early in the game
One of the things you should know is that the modding community for this one is substantial and they work a lot on getting out new skins and weapons to add to the game. I'd say a good 90% of the weapons I use now are modded ones that add unavailable Busters and Sabers to the game.
Cant wait for more content!
This is what gaming needs preserved copies of previously online games this is huge for preserving and so no devs works are lost
Being unable to use the D-pad might be an issue with steam and not Xdive. For some baffling reason my copy of Xdive wouldn't even detect my Xbox controller but found my ps5 controller just fine. Turns out I had to disable a steam setting in the game's property option. Since then I was able to use my Xbox controller and use keybinds just fine.
I remapped the in-game controllers settings to use d-pad just fine
@@SparkTFS I did too with the ps5 controller but couldn't use my Xbox controller until I disabled a steam setting for that particular game. Once I did that everything was working fine. This may be an issue people are having that's caused by Steam and not the game.
I recently started playing dive online on steam and just used all of the starter challenge and mail rewards to pull for weapons and characters and pretty quickly got absolute zero and some S and A rank gear and am finding myself pretty consistently x2-x5 times a level's power requirement and shredding or outright killing the bosses i've come across in one move, and also tend to have an overabundance of upgrading resources
Been having a blast with it so far. A bit grindy if you wanna max all characters and weapons.
Only a little though.
It would have been really cool if this game got the KH Re:coded
I mean the even have a similar plot beat in the story takes place in a digital space not affecting characters or story
Re:coded has the best combat of the KH series so a Dive remake or "Re:dive" could have been neat to see the outcome
Best in the series is a stretch. It's definitely the best and most balanced Command Deck game bar none. I still say 2 has the best combat in the series, even if it is easy. And KH1's combat is no slouch either.
@@Blackpapalink I def disagree on 1 but 2 is a fair argument.
I tend to like re:coded more than 2 because I think the command style flows better than combat in 2 does.
Although I also prefer 3 and DDD over two but not for combat really but for movement 2 is in my opinion the standard it's just I also think re:coded and 3/DDD have thing they do better
@@thebanjoorder4446I would kill for a console version of Command Deck, rather than the handheld versions we have (which is still good stuff). FFXVI was kinda Command Deck, but if Verum Rex turns out to be Command Deck I'll be so excited.
@@KnightGamer724 one can only dream at this point a console/PC remake of re:coded and days would be amazing
I mean even a port at this point would do
It's a nice spin-off with much love put into it. You can tweak the settings to make it control close to the original X series, but it will never play the same. If you are looking for X9 or anything like the X series, save your money. But if you are looking for a spin-off X game to sink some time into, this can be it. Personally I think it totally worth the price just for the collection of characters and everything you can unlock in the game. The content is literally a carnival of everything Megaman.
I'm curious about the special events the game had. For example I remember pulling a monster hunter X and RiCO and a friend had a vergil Zero. Are those still available in any way in offline? Also seasonal stuff like summer events do those still happen?
I got a bad news for you.
Crossover content (Street Fighter, Monster Hunter, etc) is not available in the game, and they mentioned this when they announced the game.
Seasonal events however are always available.
Honestly, this is something a lot of online only games should be doing since the games they are based off of are sometimes very solid and fun but the fact that its online only kills it for most. DJMax is one that i would love to have an offline version, but nope stuck with installing an invasive anti-cheat to stay on their servers.
Overall though this is great for preserving the game, but ultimately its a good way for the devs to squeeze a little more money out of the people that wanted to try this but hate gachas. 👍
I already finished the story. Tbh, after unlocking the dive armors, it feels less challenging because you can just delete everything. But I still find it enjoyable. Now I'm trying to finish all the challenge mode with summer's skins..
Since you did this, would it be possible if you would talk about Dmc peak of combat when it comes out this December
I bought it for my iPad Pro 12,9 M2 and I really like it .
But one question ,what is the sleep mode ?
im just glad for Hope for the X series altogether that it can be good profit for X9 in the future not sure if they will do actual Bridge games like Original to X then to Zero and finally to ZX/ZXA it depends on how much Capcom cares about one of their Foundational IPs
Just want to say since you're in my audience segment in my analytics: thank you for making this video so my stuff can be pushed haha.
Selifsh reason aside, I do think X Dive is something that you can dip into if you are already a fan of the franchise. If you want to play this game as your first Mega Man game? Yeah no don't do it.
Regardless of ones opinion on xDive,
it is cool on its own that they made an offline version of their mobile game without the gacha gunk,
hope more mobile games considder doing this rather than just erasing their game servers without a trace,
since there are many great mobile games trapped in lootbox prison
Just to make you aware, there's nothing stopping you from using a PS4 or 5 controller on PC. They are both compatible on Steam with no issue, and you can use them as Xinput controllers even on emulators or whatever else. You can use PS3 controllers too, but I think you do require a separate tool for those, but in my experience, PS4 and 5 controllers are plug and play, and I've never had an issue with them in any game.
Been running out on my retroid pocket 2 plus and got it for 20 bucks and it's fun leveling up.
I will say there is already mod support for the game, as modders have already starting adding back content that was.only in the online version. Only a couple of days ago did they add back the Devil May Cry content.
I just had a thought....
Since the game is basically a One Time Buy kind of thing, Maybe eventually someone can Reverse Engineer the game to study how it works, and then they can make a fan Expansion for it.
Like, say, The expansion adds in more 3D Stages from all the other MegaMan Games that would've been fun to see in DiVE, As well as More Characters, Restore and Add New Crossover Event Hunter Data (X Dante Trigger, Ryu, Akuma, MH Versions of characters, Etc.), Fix the Translations because they're still Worse than MMBN4 and X6 Combined, Restore Online Functionality in Terms of VS. Battles and Coop Missions, and More.
I mean it's on steam so mods are a possibility.
It's on steam so you can probably expect all types of content to be added via mods in due time
They're already working on that. On the fan reddit they're trying to restore all of the cross over content taht had to get removed from the offline version for obvious reasons.
After that they hope to add new content that never got added in the first lace.
@@metazoxan2 Awesome!
I'd love a Playable Duo and High Max XD
Did they leave the collaboration crossover content in or were they removed in this version?
That 2-D strafing sounds like Gunstar Heroes. I can't remember if the Metal Slug games also did that.
Also, when's a Megaman & Bass (aka Rockman & Forte) game review gonna come out? (SNES (J) and on GBA)
I'd be interested in trying this out at the right price point, but $30 is absolutely not it. $15 is probably the absolutely most I'd be willing to pay, and even then probably not until it hits, like, $10.
My main gripe with this game is that the characters doesn't have their mobility and main weapons by default. Kinda kills the purpose of having a massive roster that plays mostly the same. They should have implemented that instead of those skills.
I’ve occasionally played X DiVE when bored as a F2P for a few years now. When the Beta play test was announced, I did the trick to get into the version of the game on those servers on my phone. And from there, it’s been a very slow grind, to the point that I’m nowhere near what’s needed for Story mode. Still, it was a neat distraction at best.
The game was pretty unbalanced without sacrificing your wallet before, so I’m happy they at least fixed that for the offline preservation.
I had a lot of fun with the online version and got all my favorite characters, even the Dante and Vergil X and Zero, they were so cool. Now I don't want the offline version because I don't know if things would carry over.
This VIDEO GAME isnt about the GAMEPLAY.
Well thats all i needed to hear.
Love it , every character I want can be unlocked through natural means of gameplay, customizations and upgrades available and new costumes , it retails the nostalgia of many MM games wrapped up💝
Yeah I was thinking I'd probably get this on a sale just for the nostalgia factor. Not really expecting it to wow me as I usually get bored of mobile gameplay very quickly.
I finished the game with no problem other than the random crashes that occur. If u finished the game there is a teaser of a possible sequel or a new megaman x game entirely which is something I'm actually excited for
Yeah I expected this type of review, and I do agree because it is a mobile gacha game. Either way, great review, J.
Hope the project's goin smoothly. Cant wait to see it when it comes out
This is a version created because the regular version is going to close this month on the 27th to be exact
played this free to play on my phone till the game screwed up and lost my files and couldnt get them back, was pretty fun
Hoping this means they are porting this to the Nintenda Swatch.
Bringing up that they didn't use Green Grass Gradation for the Area A levels eases my soul just a little. That's pissed me off from minute one and still eats at me. ZX in general was handled so weird in DiVE, but a playable Pandora made me happy as hell and will be the eventual reason why I get Offline. DiVE was such a mixed experience for me (playing ranked PVP was nightmarish and so busted), but when I had fun, I had a lot of fun. Could have been handled far, FAR fucking better, but definitely wasn't a bad experience for me.