Building Brownian Motion from a Random Walk

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  • Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2024

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  • @TheodoreWSmith
    @TheodoreWSmith 5 лет назад +13

    "Markov is a goldfish, right?" haha, never heard that before. I like it.
    Really... speaking up would make a big difference though.

  • @tanajimalusaray
    @tanajimalusaray 7 лет назад +12

    @13:30 , since zi and zj are independent (independent increments), the expectation operator can be applied to each of the terms. And not because linearity

    • @markpi4600
      @markpi4600 7 лет назад

      But why is E(Zi)E(Zj) equal to zero...

    • @spookytcj
      @spookytcj 7 лет назад +5

      because whatever is k E(Zk)=0 so E(Zi)=E(Zj)=0 but E(ZiZj) cannot be equal to 0 (except if the values Zk stay equal to 0)

    • @walterreuther1779
      @walterreuther1779 Год назад

      Yes, thank you, I also got shivers down my spine when I saw this. One has to be super careful when applying this rule for the Expectation of a Product of RVs as it is only allowed for independent RVs…

  • @legionreaver
    @legionreaver Месяц назад

    I dunno math well at all and was able to follow along with only a basic understanding of algebra/geometry and I can say that you have clearly explained this more so than anyone else I've found discussing it. While I cannot quite grasp some of the math, I think.... Conceptually what's happening was very clear.

  • @erickjian7025
    @erickjian7025 3 года назад +5

    13:45 I think maybe there is a easier way to explain this:
    There are only four options for Zi × Zj: assume the increment is a, then
    Zi × Zj = a × a = a
    Zi × Zj = a × -a = -a
    Zi × Zj = -a × a = -a
    Zi × Zj = -a × -a = a
    And the average of these are 0 !
    ∴ E(Zi × Zj) = 0

    • @robalexnat
      @robalexnat 2 года назад

      This needs to be upvoted more

    • @erickjian7025
      @erickjian7025 2 года назад

      @@robalexnat sorry when I mean a^2 for the RHS of the four lines 😂😂

    • @jonf6509
      @jonf6509 Год назад

      wow thats a great explanation as his explanatation of this part was incorrect!

  • @robalexnat
    @robalexnat 2 года назад +7

    For those confused as to where the t/n came from. From my understanding you are modifying the +1/-1 based on the frequency of, shall we say, "coin flips". The square root is largely for convenience. Basically if I have a 1 second interval, and I flip my coin, I can either go to +1 or -1.
    Now what he failed to explain properly in my view is that he didn't specify that we aren't necessarily conducting new trials with those flips. Rather we are breaking up a large one into smaller intervals. When you look at it this way, you might understand that in that case, we are bounded to stay between +1/-1.
    The best way I can explain this myself is imagine the +1/-1 to be a single coin flip. Then when we halve the interval, what we are really doing is flipping half a coin (difficult to imagine, but stay with me). So the result of our half coin flips would still be between -1 and 1, except now because we can get "half" results, we can end up anywhere at -1, 0, or 1 (if you don't believe me, try replacing 2 half coins in this example with 2 coins flipping heads +1 tails -1, and the prior example to the outcomes of HH/TT exclusively).
    This means that prior to the end of our interval, we can now take "half" flip steps, such as -0.5 and 0.5 outcomes. But notice how our time interval t = 1, and our intervals n = 2 in this case. And therefore, at any point we can move t/n.
    This is my intuitive explanation for this process. The square root I can't really explain on an intuitive level but consider that all the square root does is just change the scale of the movements, but the relative magnitudes are still the same. Hope this helps.
    PS there are some errors in this video, such as E(XY) does NOT imply E(X)E(Y) unless they are independent. This applies here since remember, the Axioms of Brownian motion imply that each time interval is independent from the other.
    Final note: for those asking why he calculates E[Z^2], I will give you a hint: recall the formula for Var(Z) = E[Z^2] - E[Z]^2. If we know that E[Z] = 0 then E[Z]^2 = 0. What is Var(Z) then?

    • @danielsilver8360
      @danielsilver8360 Год назад

      Another example of where E[x_1 * x_2] =\= E[x_1] * E[x_2]
      If x_1 = x_2 = 1 (p=0.5) , -1 (p=0.5)
      Then x_1 * x_2 = 1 (p=1)
      So E[x_1 * x_2] = 1 =\= E[x_1] * E[x_2] = 0 * 0
      Obviously they do not equal
      But other than that a very informative and intuitive explanation

  • @vikrantmahajan142
    @vikrantmahajan142 Год назад

    One of the best videos on the topic

  • @AJG6150
    @AJG6150 7 лет назад +11

    He says when we flip the coin every half-second we have divided our 5s time interval into 8 time intervals?? Shouldn't it be 10 time intervals?

  • @TheBambooooooooo
    @TheBambooooooooo 8 лет назад +8

    Forward to 22:45 with your headphones :D geeezfuck

  • @erickjian7025
    @erickjian7025 3 года назад +4

    10:08 I am so confused ... How is it 8 ???
    Also, 10:55 I understand it is convenient to turn it into a square root. But then the Zk doesn't make any sense anymore since the root of t/n does not represent the actual increment ?

  • @qaisarazizkhan9397
    @qaisarazizkhan9397 Год назад +1

    The explanation of Martingale was a bit confusing, I could not differentiate it from the Markov process as per the differentiation. This is okay that the Markov process is memoryless and the best prediction about the future is today's value irrespective of what happened in the past. While Martingale does take into the past information.
    My question is how a brownian can be both Markov and Martingale??

  • @brietje123456
    @brietje123456 4 года назад +13

    A 5 second interval with 0.5 second timesteps results in 8 timesteps? Does he mean 10 timesteps or am I missing something?

    • @Diego-to5jw
      @Diego-to5jw 3 месяца назад

      yeh he is kinda retarded and this video is quite crappy anyway

  • @cristinastoica2630
    @cristinastoica2630 10 месяцев назад

    one still needs the central limit theorem to actually make sense of the limit here...

  • @DANIEL-ls5ku
    @DANIEL-ls5ku 6 лет назад +20

    The video with the lowest volume in RUclips ever!

    • @MNasirAziz
      @MNasirAziz 4 года назад +1

      install some volume up extension

    • @Julian-tf8nj
      @Julian-tf8nj 3 года назад

      addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/soundfixer/ worked well for me on Firefox :)

  • @basitsaleem4262
    @basitsaleem4262 3 года назад +1

    I dont understand the point where z_k = t / n. No mater how smaller the interval becomes, we go up and down by 1. Am I missing something?

  • @math_person
    @math_person 9 месяцев назад

    Can you please explain why you used the specific value of square_root(t/n) for k? k is just the amount by which the counter goes up or down with equal probability. It can be anything, such as a constant, or even t/n instead of it's square root.

  • @kevinshao9148
    @kevinshao9148 6 месяцев назад

    thanks for the great video. but you didn't explain why 10:38 it's square root of t/n. If that's your setup then other models doesn't have to follow this scale. random walk magnitude has to be 1? thanks!

  • @bcw9380
    @bcw9380 3 года назад

    your discrete coin flip is continous as well, you just werent supposed to connect the dots right? Then if we pass t to 0 the dots get so much squished together that we get a continous graph

  • @diogosesimbra
    @diogosesimbra 7 лет назад +1

    Question: Why do we need a brownian motion to model asset prices if in the real world their prices don't move continuously? From what I understand they can vary within a second but it is always a discrete time increment.

    • @FB-tr2kf
      @FB-tr2kf 7 лет назад +2

      How do asset prices in financial markets fluctuate? Think about how often agents trade.

  • @juansalvadordomandl5287
    @juansalvadordomandl5287 9 месяцев назад

    A little step is that since Zi, Zj with i≠j are independent then E[Zi * Zj] =E[Zi]*E[Zj] = 0 * 0 = 0.

  • @sohrabch
    @sohrabch 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks for the good explanations . i just understood it completely :)

  • @ebrahimalam2575
    @ebrahimalam2575 4 месяца назад

    Who all are watching the video at x0.75 :)

  • @jerielwong5004
    @jerielwong5004 2 года назад +1

    Hey mate, I was abit lost when Z_k = t/n , I understand the need for t/n ( to slice total t into the number of steps taken) but not sure why Z_k could take that assignment, could creator or anyone share pls, thank you

    • @AdoptedPoo
      @AdoptedPoo Год назад

      the summation formula is the mean by definition, he didnt say that properly e.g if i have x data points and i take 1/n*(the sum of x_i data points from i = 1 to n) i get the mean where n is the number of points.

  • @yandhi4202
    @yandhi4202 6 лет назад +1

    thank you!! helped alot

  • @wwooii
    @wwooii 8 лет назад +3

    Hi
    struggling on the reasoning why is Xi=t/n then Xi =\sqrt (t/n).
    Any help thankful

    • @trabek123
      @trabek123 8 лет назад

      he just did it for convenience so when the E[Xn^2} is calculated it is t instead of t^2. Think of it as a time period going from 0 to sqrt(t) instead of t with intervals of sqrt(n) instead of n.
      So if we had time period of 5s as in the video with intervals of 1/4 s. We can rewrite that as time period of sqrt(25)s with interval of sqrt(1/16) which is the same thing.

    • @spookytcj
      @spookytcj 7 лет назад +4

      i think there is a lack of explanation about the use of Zk=t/n because Zk is suppose to be -1 or +1 even if we devide the intervals : this is at least what was shown on the graphical explanation. But in the mathematical expression, Zk is reducing proportionnaly to the reduction of the intervals : this add more fractale structure to the curve as the amplitude of the oscillations of the curves are reducing at the same time we devide the intervals.

    • @diogosesimbra
      @diogosesimbra 7 лет назад +2

      I also got stuck in that part. I don't understand how or why he defines the increments (Zk) as +-sqrt(t/n). I followed that each time step is now t/n but the value of each increment is not well explained.

    • @ErdoganCEVHER
      @ErdoganCEVHER 3 года назад

      @@trabek123 Number of intervals in each case is the same value: n. Hence, I do not understand your line of reasoning since you say, "...intervals of sqrt(n) instead of n". Notice Xn:=Sigma(k=1)(n)Zk in each case (i.e., before and after the transformation)!

  • @dhairyaumrania4986
    @dhairyaumrania4986 Месяц назад

    13:00 why is E[Z_k ^2] = t/n?

  • @mehdishiriz5101
    @mehdishiriz5101 3 года назад +1

    In general good lecture. The audio quality though is very poor. The lecture "Building Brownian Motion from a Random Walk", starting around minute 11 is very unclear. You suddenly move from explaining E(Zk) = 0 to E(Zk^2) = 0, without explaining what E(Zk^2) is or why you introduced it. From this point on the lecture is not clear at all. I would be good if you could clarify why the term E(Zk^2) = 0 was introduced in the lecture.

    • @erickjian7025
      @erickjian7025 3 года назад

      Var(Zk) = E(Zk^2)-(E(Zk))^2
      but the reasoning at 12:17 for E(Zk^2) is a bit unclear

  • @superphilschneider
    @superphilschneider 3 года назад

    Hi, nice video. clear and helpful. What software are you using?

  • @yoojinjeon5060
    @yoojinjeon5060 7 лет назад

    So why are we getting E(Zk)2?? How does this have anything to do w/ Brownian motion?

    • @spookytcj
      @spookytcj 7 лет назад

      E(Zk^2) is an indicator of how far the values you can get during the brownian motion can go away from the average value (E(Zk)) and the result depends on the time. So this is very relevant to Brownian motion as you have an idea of how high the values can be.

    • @diogosesimbra
      @diogosesimbra 7 лет назад +4

      Just to make your comment more clear, the indicator you are talking about is the variance. The formula for the variance is equal to = E(Zk^2) - (E(Zk))^2. The first term is derived as t/n and the second term is 0.

    • @erickjian7025
      @erickjian7025 3 года назад

      (As answered to medhi shiriz)Var(Zk) = E(Zk^2)-(E(Zk))^2
      but the reasoning at 12:17 for E(Zk^2) is a bit unclear

  • @bardhikrasniqi606
    @bardhikrasniqi606 5 лет назад

    You are jimmy two times

  • @mkaberli
    @mkaberli 6 лет назад +2

    Speak up!

  • @roshannanayakkara5865
    @roshannanayakkara5865 Год назад

    Hopeless lacks clarity