This is the absolute best video for this genre on RUclips. The way Kenny spoke the story arc was intriguing from beginning to end. As a listener, it's still a mystery why his father didn't want any profits from the robbery, but to me that sounds like he did it out of spite; a personal beef. And I was surprised to hear younger Kenny wouldn't have seeked revenge if he learned of his father's death. At the end it was touching to hear his regret abandoning his familial duties as a son and brother when he was a gangster. Kid Jai sounds legendary, especially after hearing about his character and promise keeping. I assume he's too much of an "old school gangster" as Kenny said to ever speak in an interview but maybe I'm wrong. Looking forward to Part 2. Cheers
Absolute respect to voicing this out. Its still not too late Kenny, as long as you realize at this point, then start being good to the people around you. Thats all it counts
"he still treats me like a kid sometimes and I'm 54 years old". There is a bond of love and respect between those two that can only be honoured and admired. Many a father and son would willingly give plenty to have just a part of what those two have. As an old old man, I think it's wonderful.
Against the backdrop of crime and violence, these are heart touching stories about humanity - both good and bad. I really enjoy how Kenny's shares these stories. Thanks.
These interviews are fire. If i was born 20 years earlier i could have easily been caught up in this life. Luckily for me, asian gangs were less prevalent by the time i was growing up. Keep telling your story Uncle Kenny! There are people out there who need to hear it :)
I hear you I'm not chinese but I was almost born into a gang lukely my family was smart enough to distance themselves from the members but there are many people who are not.. I hope people born into this life style can escape some day and find peace. 🙏
Vietnamese tradition is like this too . If he is younger than ur dad there’s a young uncle word if he’s older than ur father there’s an old uncle word for that too
I think in most Asian cultures is the same. In Khmer culture (Cambodian). To me, someone who is younger than my father is "bou", someone who us older is "oum", and someone who my father calls uncle is "toum". I thought we were the only ones doing this growing up but, as i grew older my Viet friends said it was the same.
@Zika om the international level its a combination of nationalities. I.e china sells ingredients to mexico to manufacture meth or fentanyl etc.. But mostly the italians are the distributors/importers, in a international scale we're talking about. Then under that theres a class or so lower - crime syndicates, chinese, europeans, then buy under the distributors and sell them to whatever state, then gangs or biker mc's, smaller organisations sell them, then basically it just keeps scaling down to the guys in the street. From the guys in suits to the guys in the corner of the street. Lol.
Here is the the logic. Your dad's Hit Sing partner used his Hit Sing Seniority forced his way into your Dad's lucrative seafood business. Based on your description, you dad saw it as a insult and if he let's continue other will follow. So he decided to teach him a big lesson by making him lost big financially and indirectly let him know he did it but your Dad under estimated the insult he put on his partner and his balls. This kind of tactic is very common in Chinese culture. The reason your dad didn't want any of the money 1)His goal is not money 2)150K is not much in his eyes 3) That's how he establish relationship. After all, Kid Jai look after u for life.
After all these years of trying to figure out the truth, you’re the only person that has the same conclusion with me, all along it was all about the insult and injury to bully someone else not knowing what your opponent has the capability to retaliate, with Asians it’s always about face
Not just Chinese it all Asian culture I’m Cambodian n we do the same thing we call our fathers friends uncle n our mom friends auntie it out of respect we do no dare to call them by their names it’s disrespectful
It really sucks that your father got gunned down. That's the life style you lived. And the uncle that your dad got to look after you and the family, he seems to be a nice guy. He kept his promise and he is still around it seem. Glad you saw that you need to get away from that life style.
It's tragic, when a young man must join a gang to help his dad or find an answer.. I remember michael franzese the colombo capo did the same thing... Im order to help his dad to get out of jail, he joined the gang and quit school.. RIP to Kenny's dad...
It’s crazy how the NYC demeanor, body language, and vocabulary is a mix of all the groups of people that live there. He’s got an Asian accent but comes off as 100% authentically NYC hood certified. If he still stomped a mud hole in a youngsters ass with his Timberlands on to this day I wouldn’t be surprised. 💯
Why Kenny’s Father didn’t ask a share of the robbery? Because he wants to have stronger bond with Kid 仔 by giving him a gift, which are the money from the other guy and the unknown source of those goods. In Chinese called borrowing flowers to worship Buddha（借花敬佛）。 Some aggressive Chinese business people like to build good relationships with the organized crime leaders, so one day they might need their help.
Real asian OGs will stay far away from people like China Mac. He’s a idiot and a crash dummy. Even after getting out of prison after doing 25 years he still has the same mentality. He fought AD for some petty shit and he started crying when nobody was supporting his music. I lost respect for him after that, he thought he was about to leave prison and take over the rap game. You know how hard that is for a asian?! Dude is average at rapping but he thinks he’s the nicest rapper in NY lol. Yea my point is, real asian gang members hate people like China Mac. They create problems and cause too much attention. Their whole thing is secrecy and keeping your mouth shut.
It was easy to fall into that life 20-30 years ago. You hang out with people that looked like you. They were your friends. next thing you know your group of friends has a nick name. next thing you know one of your friends gets into a fight. next thing you know you, you're at the park fighting against some other kids. and boom one of them has a gun. that's how easily a gang war starts.
Even easier than that lol.. you go talk to a girl. That girl used to date a gang member. The gang member finds out and gets someone to hurt you. Now you want revenge. That easy and women have caused more wars than anything else. One thing my father always told me is to NEVER fight over a girl. There’s literally billions of women on this earth, why fight over one who probably going to leave you anyways. I understand when people defend their wife or girlfriend but a lot of men know a girl for a few months and are ready to die for them. The girl just likes the attention and once it’s all over they not dating either one of you guys lol.
And then boom people got sick into the gang life without even noticing. They ended up doing one bad thing after another! They started making money illegally but didn’t know how to stop ! And then boom they ended served time in federal prison
A lot of Asians will NEVER touch drugs but drinking and gambling is really big in asian communities. No matter how much money you have, if you gamble you will end up broke. This is how millionaires go broke.
@@chinatowngangstories I disagree. Gambling is part of the culture. This is nothing new. It’s not like they learned about gambling after they made money. But the heroin and the cocaine turned them into zombies
We had the streets from the 70’s into the early 90’s and none of the Dai Lo were crackheads. If you have any info during that era, please share and we’ll verify it and discuss it on this channel.
Why ? I highly doubt they are friends! The real ghost shadow got arrested in the early 90s. Those were the ghost shadow made a name for themselves! G-Kay was way too young and also he wasn’t really from Chinatown
@@deroxanlit4181 the real original founding members of GS all got caught up with Rico in the mid 80’s and did federal time and that was the end of the original GS members in Chinatown,the GS pretty much Disintegrated after that
Is it just me , the uncle needs to get looked at again. Since he did divert the blame into the FD guy with the taxi ( putting blame on someone else ). He got the bulk of the funds, As they say... Follow the money. The ones most close to you should be the most scrutinized.Friends are usually the ones that fuck you in my opinion
If only you know our culture, as Asians very seldomly take out your own unless it’s extremely personal, we’re not like the other organizations that can effortlessly take out a friend for money
China mac a GS as well on hood blogs and people weren't believing him lol chinatown was deadly with hella gangs, all shooters not just in a gang to fit in or bang colors.
Not sure why these questions wasnt asked tbh. You already know any chinamac related questions would bring interest. Different generations or not there are still a ton of questions
My theory is Kid Jai is using your father to set up for his own game. Also and Kid Jai has you as his wing so if your father made any mistake you are gone. At the same time he also took the responsiblity of you. Pretty crazy theory though. Kid Jai is crafty old man.
@@Amgis9369 That's the funny part the father didn't want any of the money. Also you would be dumb to wear those stolen necklace. You don't want that heat man.
@DaiMa but it makes no sense that his father didn't want the money though and this is all according to what that old man kid jai said, a deal like that goes down like that and they get rob, and kid jai is the only one benefiting from this deal ? It sounds like they did plan to rob the deal and kid jai snaked Kenny's dad in the end, and kept everything to himself, if me and you are friends and I come to you with a plan to rob someone ...... why would I not want my cut at the end, the story doesn't add up and I don't know if Kenny notices 🤔
@@jack604 actually it could make sense Kenny’s dad didn’t want the money. The key piece in this is that Kenny’s dad said I’m sorry to Kenny’s mom. This right here says Kenny’s dad was involved with some things that was not good. So don’t think the uncle did any double cross. Here is a theory. Since the two business guys were actually relatives perhaps Kenny’s dad felt that the transaction taking place warranted a lesser profit. It’s like why are you trying to make so much off your own cousin. The transaction was all under the table. Maybe Kenny’s dad felt the other guy was being too greedy and needed to realize you can’t conduct business without paying up. Getting back the jewelry and wearing was more about telling the other business guy watch the way you do business. Perhaps a bit extreme. I guess the lesson is be careful about wishing to have a lot of money. It can bring out the worst in people.
If u believe a gambler that makes money to gamble and look after his family u would believe anything no disrespect but if u think that story is true u must nit be thinking ur dad is so smart that he makes all this money ppl ppl working him and he never thought about ppl wouldn’t see him wearing the jewelry again
This is the absolute best video for this genre on RUclips. The way Kenny spoke the story arc was intriguing from beginning to end.
As a listener, it's still a mystery why his father didn't want any profits from the robbery, but to me that sounds like he did it out of spite; a personal beef. And I was surprised to hear younger Kenny wouldn't have seeked revenge if he learned of his father's death. At the end it was touching to hear his regret abandoning his familial duties as a son and brother when he was a gangster.
Kid Jai sounds legendary, especially after hearing about his character and promise keeping. I assume he's too much of an "old school gangster" as Kenny said to ever speak in an interview but maybe I'm wrong. Looking forward to Part 2. Cheers
he wants to strengthen the bond with kid jai but also for personal beef. I guess
Absolute respect to voicing this out. Its still not too late Kenny, as long as you realize at this point, then start being good to the people around you. Thats all it counts
Wow...that was unexpectedly deep at the end. Hope the guy and his family are doing better now. Can't wait for pt 2, these are priceless.
I read this comment before watching the whole video and yes.. still unexpectedly deep at the end.
"he still treats me like a kid sometimes and I'm 54 years old". There is a bond of love and respect between those two that can only be honoured and admired. Many a father and son would willingly give plenty to have just a part of what those two have. As an old old man, I think it's wonderful.
The ending got to me I feel I’ve neglected both those parts in my life and this gave me a reality check thank you so much
Coke cola need to paid this channel 🔥
😂😂😂
I’m Asian and I read this in our accent 😭😭
Definitely!!
You just cannot find this level of true life anywhere else... Thank you!
Against the backdrop of crime and violence, these are heart touching stories about humanity - both good and bad. I really enjoy how Kenny's shares these stories. Thanks.
Hurry up with part two ..yall keep me waiting!
hooked on this channel after coming across it last night. great content
when a man doesn’t boast about being a gangster the stories are very intriguing to listen to
Mexican American here, checking out the Asian perspective. Respect
Ghost Shadows gang was no joke. They stayed turned up.
@@thaistompmy roommate in college was GS affiliated from Flushing Queens. Real deal
These stories would make an awesome netflix series
My Asian friends kids call me uncle as well. I'm not Asian but it's the way it's always been. It's a respect.
I’m from the hood from nyc but damn these Chinatown stories hit diff 🔥🔥 good shit
These interviews are fire. If i was born 20 years earlier i could have easily been caught up in this life. Luckily for me, asian gangs were less prevalent by the time i was growing up. Keep telling your story Uncle Kenny! There are people out there who need to hear it :)
Luckily for you? Brother, that’s why asians get sucker punched all the time and become the victims of hate crimes :(
How old are you ? Chinatown was crazy back in the day. It was a legit slum. all the gambling houses were protected by different gangs
I hear you I'm not chinese but I was almost born into a gang lukely my family was smart enough to distance themselves from the members but there are many people who are not.. I hope people born into this life style can escape some day and find peace. 🙏
They was still tough in the streets when i graduated high school. 1995ish….
Waiting for this dude to continue his story
Finally ! keep bringing these OG's out !
Wow absolutely amazing story telling. Love this channel
Fire content bro, man I wanna hear part 2 already. Drop it bro! Lol
I enjoyed listening. Hope there is more to come.
Powerful. So much pain in Kenny’s eyes. I feel ur pain man 🙏
great interview
This was a good story. I wasn’t expecting such a deep ending. Makes you look at your own relationships and really think about things.
Vietnamese tradition is like this too . If he is younger than ur dad there’s a young uncle word if he’s older than ur father there’s an old uncle word for that too
I think in most Asian cultures is the same. In Khmer culture (Cambodian). To me, someone who is younger than my father is "bou", someone who us older is "oum", and someone who my father calls uncle is "toum". I thought we were the only ones doing this growing up but, as i grew older my Viet friends said it was the same.
All Asian
@@cambo6967 same for laos 🇱🇦 culture and traditions too.. very same similar shit our countries have. S.e asia is awesome i feel proud to be from there
White progressives dads be letting their kids call them by their first names. Kissing them on the lips, gross. We don't do that weird stuff in Asia.
@Zika om the international level its a combination of nationalities. I.e china sells ingredients to mexico to manufacture meth or fentanyl etc..
But mostly the italians are the distributors/importers, in a international scale we're talking about. Then under that theres a class or so lower - crime syndicates, chinese, europeans, then buy under the distributors and sell them to whatever state, then gangs or biker mc's, smaller organisations sell them, then basically it just keeps scaling down to the guys in the street.
From the guys in suits to the guys in the corner of the street. Lol.
Here is the the logic. Your dad's Hit Sing partner used his Hit Sing Seniority forced his way into your Dad's lucrative seafood business. Based on your description, you dad saw it as a insult and if he let's continue other will follow. So he decided to teach him a big lesson by making him lost big financially and indirectly let him know he did it but your Dad under estimated the insult he put on his partner and his balls. This kind of tactic is very common in Chinese culture. The reason your dad didn't want any of the money 1)His goal is not money 2)150K is not much in his eyes 3) That's how he establish relationship. After all, Kid Jai look after u for life.
Exactly what I was thinking. You understand the culture very well. You’d make a great investigator
After all these years of trying to figure out the truth, you’re the only person that has the same conclusion with me, all along it was all about the insult and injury to bully someone else not knowing what your opponent has the capability to retaliate, with Asians it’s always about face
Craving for the next episode 🔥🔥🔥
Not just Chinese it all Asian culture I’m Cambodian n we do the same thing we call our fathers friends uncle n our mom friends auntie it out of respect we do no dare to call them by their names it’s disrespectful
Filipinos too😂 Like you said all Asian cultures
Guys like Kenny should share their story with trouble youth. Gang life is not good.
Man that ending hit deep
Old school gangs was built different.
Wow. This is a great interview.
Great insight and stories. Love it. You can hear that NY accent and lingo.
Kenny grew up in Brooklyn with Irish and Italian kids. Of course he has the accent….😂
Feb 13 was the same day my homie past away, Rest In Peace to Kenny's father and my friend Hector Rodriguez
RIP
It really sucks that your father got gunned down. That's the life style you lived. And the uncle that your dad got to look after you and the family, he seems to be a nice guy. He kept his promise and he is still around it seem. Glad you saw that you need to get away from that life style.
USP ALLENWOOD IS IN PA ! WOW much respect to Kenny .David Thai was at Lewisburg .
Does Kenny have his own channel?? Would love to find out more on his story - hope he's doing well now.
Lol, no way an uncle like this would have time to make a youtube channel
A great personal family history Kenny. Learn to love those that are living now and treasure them. Time and tide wait for no man. 👍
Kenny’s storytelling is 👌🏼
@@girlfromthenorthcountryx Thank you for supporting our channel 👍
It's tragic, when a young man must join a gang to help his dad or find an answer..
I remember michael franzese the colombo capo did the same thing...
Im order to help his dad to get out of jail, he joined the gang and quit school..
RIP to Kenny's dad...
It’s crazy how the NYC demeanor, body language, and vocabulary is a mix of all the groups of people that live there. He’s got an Asian accent but comes off as 100% authentically NYC hood certified. If he still stomped a mud hole in a youngsters ass with his Timberlands on to this day I wouldn’t be surprised. 💯
Why Kenny’s Father didn’t ask a share of the robbery? Because he wants to have stronger bond with Kid 仔 by giving him a gift, which are the money from the other guy and the unknown source of those goods. In Chinese called borrowing flowers to worship Buddha（借花敬佛）。 Some aggressive Chinese business people like to build good relationships with the organized crime leaders, so one day they might need their help.
You understand the culture very well.
I remembered looking back 30 yrs ago growing up in Fresno CA.
Big ups big homie, God Loves Us
I wonder if china Mac knows these OGs at a personal level, given that he came from ghost shadow gang too
different generation
oh they know all certainly know or know of each other
china mac is a fake gangster he wont know his og
Real asian OGs will stay far away from people like China Mac. He’s a idiot and a crash dummy. Even after getting out of prison after doing 25 years he still has the same mentality. He fought AD for some petty shit and he started crying when nobody was supporting his music. I lost respect for him after that, he thought he was about to leave prison and take over the rap game. You know how hard that is for a asian?! Dude is average at rapping but he thinks he’s the nicest rapper in NY lol. Yea my point is, real asian gang members hate people like China Mac. They create problems and cause too much attention. Their whole thing is secrecy and keeping your mouth shut.
@@pvaj79 definitely not the 70’s late 80’s
this is fucking good.
Rest in peace to your father Kenny.
It was easy to fall into that life 20-30 years ago. You hang out with people that looked like you. They were your friends. next thing you know your group of friends has a nick name. next thing you know one of your friends gets into a fight. next thing you know you, you're at the park fighting against some other kids. and boom one of them has a gun. that's how easily a gang war starts.
Even easier than that lol.. you go talk to a girl. That girl used to date a gang member. The gang member finds out and gets someone to hurt you. Now you want revenge. That easy and women have caused more wars than anything else. One thing my father always told me is to NEVER fight over a girl. There’s literally billions of women on this earth, why fight over one who probably going to leave you anyways. I understand when people defend their wife or girlfriend but a lot of men know a girl for a few months and are ready to die for them. The girl just likes the attention and once it’s all over they not dating either one of you guys lol.
And then boom people got sick into the gang life without even noticing. They ended up doing one bad thing after another! They started making money illegally but didn’t know how to stop ! And then boom they ended served time in federal prison
When you get locked up they could care less it’s all about self preservation
@@brucegreen5781 Lol you AZN? You must not know how AZN's work, there's a reason why we run the jails even when we're out numbered 10 to 1.
crazy times. I was attending NYU during peaks late 80s early 90s of Chinatown gangs. scary times.
A lot of Asians will NEVER touch drugs but drinking and gambling is really big in asian communities. No matter how much money you have, if you gamble you will end up broke. This is how millionaires go broke.
That’s not true. Crack cocaine killed the gang in the late 80s and 90s. People were getting high 24/7 and lost their edge
Correct. We will touch on this topic one day. The downfall of many dai lo were their addiction to gambling, not drugs.
@@chinatowngangstories I disagree. Gambling is part of the culture. This is nothing new. It’s not like they learned about gambling after they made money. But the heroin and the cocaine turned them into zombies
We had the streets from the 70’s into the early 90’s and none of the Dai Lo were crackheads. If you have any info during that era, please share and we’ll verify it and discuss it on this channel.
@@NayaWrap you sound like an Americanized Asian kid.
Should link up with China Mac!
Why ? I highly doubt they are friends! The real ghost shadow got arrested in the early 90s. Those were the ghost shadow made a name for themselves! G-Kay was way too young and also he wasn’t really from Chinatown
@@deroxanlit4181 the real original founding members of GS all got caught up with Rico in the mid 80’s and did federal time and that was the end of the original GS members in Chinatown,the GS pretty much Disintegrated after that
Good story!
Is it just me , the uncle needs to get looked at again. Since he did divert the blame into the FD guy with the taxi ( putting blame on someone else ). He got the bulk of the funds, As they say... Follow the money. The ones most close to you should be the most scrutinized.Friends are usually the ones that fuck you in my opinion
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I think all the guys from brooklyn in this era talk like the Wu-Tang
To everyone that is wondering! $150k in the 1978 compare to today 2022 money is $685k!
150 went a very long way in the late 70’s
He sounded so Italian. Lol
That ny accent
Kenny grew up in Brooklyn dude….😂
I was in Louisburg with 3 ghost shadows from Queens NY . Being from the Bronx NY .I hanged out with them in the Yard in some occasions .
Movie material 🔥
Can't live without Water.. you can live without them ( Coca Cola )
nobody got the heart to tell him it was prob kid jai or somebody close who killed ur pops
If only you know our culture, as Asians very seldomly take out your own unless it’s extremely personal, we’re not like the other organizations that can effortlessly take out a friend for money
lol i love how unbias n truthful he is 13:55
This is a serious guy.
I seen the signs of Hip Sing organization still around in NYC and Philly , I wonder are they still a gang these days
One day we’ll be discussing that on this channel
They are absolutely still around, and supposedly they are now considered a legitimate organization.
Cases they trying to build off nothing😞👍
Kenny is blasted on ❄..😂😂
💯
China mac a GS as well on hood blogs and people weren't believing him lol chinatown was deadly with hella gangs, all shooters not just in a gang to fit in or bang colors.
Block vs block
Rip uncle OG BENNY!
Toi san? Shit I’m toi san!
Sounds like it was planned. They disabled your dad's car so he would stay there longer and they could roll up and shoot him.
Criminals are Criminals, you are lucky you are alive.
Can of water is a can of water
Hip sing wow. Uncle Benny was such a nice guy.
I wonder if Kenny knows China Macs dad?
For sure
Probably enemies. Ghost Shadow and Flying Dragons
100%
Not sure why these questions wasnt asked tbh. You already know any chinamac related questions would bring interest. Different generations or not there are still a ton of questions
Let’s get some sf/Oakland Chinatown stories. 1990s none of that 1970-1980 shit we seee on shit
No this is good. Gs,btk,flying dragons 🐉
🐲🔴💰💯
black on black is always bad blood, its not amount the value but street credit
My theory is Kid Jai is using your father to set up for his own game. Also and Kid Jai has you as his wing so if your father made any mistake you are gone. At the same time he also took the responsiblity of you. Pretty crazy theory though. Kid Jai is crafty old man.
@@Amgis9369 That's the funny part the father didn't want any of the money. Also you would be dumb to wear those stolen necklace. You don't want that heat man.
@DaiMa but it makes no sense that his father didn't want the money though and this is all according to what that old man kid jai said, a deal like that goes down like that and they get rob, and kid jai is the only one benefiting from this deal ? It sounds like they did plan to rob the deal and kid jai snaked Kenny's dad in the end, and kept everything to himself, if me and you are friends and I come to you with a plan to rob someone ...... why would I not want my cut at the end, the story doesn't add up and I don't know if Kenny notices 🤔
@@jack604 actually it could make sense Kenny’s dad didn’t want the money.
The key piece in this is that Kenny’s dad said I’m sorry to Kenny’s mom. This right here says Kenny’s dad was involved with some things that was not good.
So don’t think the uncle did any double cross.
Here is a theory. Since the two business guys were actually relatives perhaps Kenny’s dad felt that the transaction taking place warranted a lesser profit. It’s like why are you trying to make so much off your own cousin.
The transaction was all under the table. Maybe Kenny’s dad felt the other guy was being too greedy and needed to realize you can’t conduct business without paying up.
Getting back the jewelry and wearing was more about telling the other business guy watch the way you do business. Perhaps a bit extreme.
I guess the lesson is be careful about wishing to have a lot of money. It can bring out the worst in people.
Best analysis so far. More details coming on future episodes.
Kid not necessary trying to set him up but remember that his dad has gambling problem, maybe he owed Kid money, then it all make sense
Does he or did Kenny do drugs..
I get robbed at your warehouse
It's funny.
So I call you and say.
Dont worry I will see round.
But is all or nothing
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Is China Mac your big homie?
G-Kay was way too young and he was from flushing.
How is China Max his big homie when this man is 56 and Mac is 30 ish ??
@@djb-illy8471 Mac is 40. Also Mac probably got in the gang first.
@@lbabz6204 you must be really dumb to think that way bruh … Kenny been banging way before China Mac and this is not even a debate cuz it’s fact lol
Why they say his ppl killed him to take over the rackets
Who profit from ur fathers death ur not a boss if u still have take payment from ppl who are not part of the gang
If u believe a gambler that makes money to gamble and look after his family u would believe anything no disrespect but if u think that story is true u must nit be thinking ur dad is so smart that he makes all this money ppl ppl working him and he never thought about ppl wouldn’t see him wearing the jewelry again