Hear Roy Hargrove, Terence Blanchard, Poncho Sanchez, Wallace Roney, Gregory Porter and Kenny Barron talk about what it takes to make in the music business.
An old woman approached a violin player after a show and said "oh, you played beautifully, I´d give up my whole life to be able to play like that" (loose translation). The violinist answered "well, lady, that´s exactly what I did".
I am happy that a lot of you are beginning to have this concept: Isaac Newton gave up all his life for the love of physics, and without such passion, there would be no cars today. Same goes to music. I am new in music. I started learning an instrument (guitar) and singing two or three years ago (2017). I only have the passion, no matter how slow my progress is. Those who learn it for the women or for money get lost and will not achieve the knowledge I have achieved in just under three years.
Don't get mad get even: Practice everything you want to master slowly and build up to the tempo you want. Be patient with yourself. It takes time! Be well www.pulsejazz.com
I agree, don't get down on yourself which is easy to do when you get stuck. Try different approaches. One of many things that helped me. I get better at congas because I also play sax. It helps my sax playing be rhythmic and on time and keeps my drumming melodic. If you can sing it, you can play it.
I was a musician for 60 yrs. Never made a lot of money, enough to live on, being a king was never my goal. If that is your goal. go for it but don't advise others. Why are you here?
Can't be about money. Can't be a hobby. Can't be just to get girls. In order to make it, it has to be who you are, nothing more, nothing less. The grind is too rigid and the demands are too great, and that's to be average!
thejazzman210 that's why i can't get on the next level then. i don't want it enough and i'm a lazy piece of shit. i want to play real good but can't ( more like ' I don't want to') get on that level
@@GrumpyStormtrooper I want to be a mucisian and im a lazy piece of shit too XD just practice 5/10 min a day for the rest of your life and dont burn your head so much.
@@andralfoo practice practice practice. Robotically then when you feel something loosen up hit it hard and loud you will loose a sense of time, Or Time Dilation, almost, after that ... put it down for a while, a week maybe two, then start practicing more complex pieces Robotically Repetitive
AD isn't as much of a thing anymore and a lot of niches are already populated. Therefore the competition is very stiff, there is money against you, and then on top of that you need to stand out. Tough.
I could see someone misinterpreting what you are saying. From what I understand, you are saying that, to make it in the music industry, you can't make the music a hobby or for money or girls. But someone might understand you as saying that music just can't be a hobby. There are many people who play music as a hobby, and they're pretty good. Not everyone is called to be a professional, but that doesn't make the music invalid or something if it's a hobby. Like I said though, I believe you're talking about making it in the music business if I'm not mistaken.
Thomaz da Silva ha, yes! However, even if u don't play ur instrument, singing along to music, or listening to study pieces, or maybe singing over hip hop or drum n bass as if it was your instrument, is still study/practice. I play flute n sax, but did about 90 mins serious cajon study on Friday night!
Thomas J DiGenno Sr And Kenny Barron is a very complex, densely layered pianist (in my view). But he's always right there, never aloof or formal. The guy has a ton of heart.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH HIM. The younger kids I see are about"riffs and runs" very little heart behind it. I didn't start playing piano untill I was 35( I'm 54 now) and I'm STILL in process.
@@frederickweeksjr.3287 How has your journey progressed? I Just started in earnest this year and I'm 38.I wish I would have started earlier but at least I'm here
I read a quote about Chet Baker once that said he could say more in one note than most people can say in a whole song. That is the kind of heart felt musicality that most musicians lack.
Word up. If I could afford it I would pay cats like Wynton Marsalis not to play. God bless you Kenny Barron for speaking the truth and carrying the torch.
Yes he is Lesole. But not all new Jazz musicians. My stuff is soulful and I'm so glad he pointed this out. Many students I know study the rudiments and get them right, but asking them to feel and connect is a whole other issue. Kenny is on the money when he says there is a disconnect. Music isn't about the head.
Melted Honey How do you suggest a new student learn? Barron mentioned the woeful emphasis on scales and some other technical things over the emphasis on feeling, but how does one go about learning music from an emotional standpoint rather than a technical one?
@@lukaswarner5372 learn all the technical stuff first. Knowing chord voicings, scales,chord progressions,licks and your theory inside out and it will aid you in your ability to express yourself it doesn't hinder you at all it aids you. Just remember your playing music and it's not a contest and it's about expressing yourself.
And you need to form a union. It ain’t about the money, but a musician puts so much time into his art, and he gives so many people so much joy that he (or she) deserves to live a life of dignity, not be nickeled and dimed.
I am a young, upcoming musician myself, I am only 57 years old, non American, non rich, can't market my music, I have a very bright future, for I am the future :)
guard your heart , dont sell your soul, keep your eyes fixed on your purposes for creating if there no particular one, Get One, Make It The One who Created you and the Sound And Air the Light Water Currently Tiding By Moon and the Rising Red Flower, the One God the Existing One JeHoVah blessed be His Name.
Music is spiritual and it creates a mood...you know when your on your game..sometimes if you play to predictable it's ok but doesnt always create something special where as when you let everything go and do something different in moment..the listener will be inspired *
I once heard the great New Orleans vocalist and musician, John Boutte, tell an audience that if anything is going to save this planet it just may be MUSIC.
Thank you so very much for this share. All them cats said the same thing in their individual voices. Just like improv. Bring it from the soul, no matter how long it may take. Day by day, you get closer and you make another heart happy. Bless.
I’m a drummer (16) all of my past drum teachers lessons I’ve cancelled until I found a teacher that let my play and learn improv learning techniques I can implement into playing .... Cut to my live musicals in which I’m the core drummer and I’m making big decisions on how to cue the dancers and end songs and even the bows section all because I can feel the story of the musicals and can adjust accordingly
Forget all the bullshit, 'inspirational', 'motivational' quotes. At the end of the day you just have to fucking practice. Practicing and bettering yourself is the only way, nobody else is gonna do it for you. Practice.
Very Inspiring comments from the greats. I agree that their are a lot of technical players out today but I very seldom remember what they play after it’s over and the music never leaves me in chill bumps. The soul is just not there.
Gregory Porter is winning Grammies in jazz....excellent vocalist who had some situations when he was a kid that affected his skin...he’s getting his money...as a matter of fact he’ll be in Atlanta again on the 20th of this month...he’s laughing with you...to the bank 💰
HELP! Hey everyone, I really want to get better, and I am willing to put my everything into music, and singing. I have a great voice, and I know that. I know that I can do great things, I WANT TO PRACTICE, but I do not know HOW TO? I do not have a mentor. I NEED SOMEONE!! I would Appreciate any help, tips for singing.
Ive noticed too that there are some younger players with mindbogglingly great technique but they dont seem to play from the heart. At first its very impressive but it does not really go anywhere. Lots of the younger players say standards bore them but perhaps they did not live the life of the older players who stayed in segregated hotels or killed themselves trying to get a gig for a long time.
There is no secret, only practice. I grew up with a knack for dancing and relied upon this (proudly) until one day I got destroyed in a dance battle in a club. I went back to my friends feeling demoralised telling them of what happened. One of them replied with brutal honesty "Well, what did you expect? You don't even practice." That very moment...the sobering truth woke me up and then the real work began...practice, practice, practice.
One thing I’ve encountered through the years of playing, is the amount of competition, jealousy and back stabbing some of these so called musicians will pull. It’s a gift we are given to share, to entertain, not to compete.. Some will only try to bring you down. Get out there and surround yourself with the same like minded people to play with. Gig,play,gig,play and then some. Your best practice and learning will come from gigs. If your passionate about it, you will in time benefit from it, even if that one person approaches you after the gig to tell you how much they enjoyed your performance.
Chris, I can attest to what you just said. People will try to bring you down. I would add that if that's what you encounter, don't stay too long in that situation. In some cases musicians will force you to play louder or harder than you need to. That can lead to injury. Move on. I didnt know I could play again due to injuries. This won't necessarily happen at higher levels of well respected musicians. But because in jazz and certain Latin genres the gigs are disappearing and never were that plentiful in the first place, competition can be brutal ( since we're keeping it real). In other words if there's a lot of tension in the group or club situation, move on! Be more like water and flow on.
I came upon this channel and read your comment and I will say you're SPOT ON. I play piano for a church and even in this arena it's a problem. I can't put the hours in what most do( I drive truck), bit when I'm home I practice quite a bit. Most people forget that it's not so much about the ooohs and aaahs as it is touching the heart. I believe we believe we need to encourage one another in their gifts and not be so quick to right someone off. Enjoyed your comment.
Frederick Weeks Jr. thank you. My wife always refers to me as the tortured artist. It can be frustrating when you are flooded with ideas, no matter the time of day or night. So much to share, so many ears not to hear. Just keep moving.
you just learned a lesson, good job! Dont be mad when you meet him. Hopefully, you will be lucky enough to meet him. ruclips.net/video/VBLaJtXbpRg/видео.html
Etta Jones and Huston Persons were a dynamic duo for many years. They played so well together that people thought they were married, but they were not. They seemed to complete each other's sentences.
I saw Etta Jones in a small Jazz club in Lincoln Park, New Jersey. There were 6 people in the audience....myself and a table of 5 of Etta's family members. She is one of my favorite singers of all time.
calling it a 'gift' is false modesty - if the amount of time and effort that this 'gift' costs was spent on any other endeavour it would be charged at an appropriate rate, ie a lot more than it is currently
Great advice...... Remember you and all before you made the blueprints. These younger musicians are the children you all gave musical birth too. From a heavy black phones to the smartphone. Same concept but, the rate of process information and communicating is much faster. With age comes wisdom. I give blessing and thanks to those before, the present and future. The Creator is always creating......
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I play the saxaphone I have three CDs out you can check them out they are all good not cause I said it my fans as well as real professional recording artists have my CD Saxaphonist Najee in smooth jazz has my CD he said when he heard it he thought I was on a label already he said to me I can tell you put the work into your music the playing the song selections the arrangements your good keep going ....so I am not on a label but my music shows I put the work into it and that I can live with ...everybody is not going to become famous just because your good it it's just not enough room for musicians to all become successful but you can all still become artists in your own city just record and gig and be happy with that ....I am I still have fans people buy my CD so I'm happy
Music is about passion, desire, need. If you make it into the arena, you'll be paid & if not, will you stop playing music? If so, it wasn't really in you after all.
Terence Blanchard nailed! By the way breathless is a beautiful album and so the live album with e-collective I have the honor to see him at Newport jazz festival.
Unfortunately modern jazz is a minority music...it has a much smaller audience than other forms of music such as pop. rock..country etc Remember playing jazz in pub about ten years ago ...it was not a pub that had played jazz before ..mostly catered for rock and pop bands At the end of the first set a couple of people came up and said they liked the music ..but had not heard it before ....and that is about the ratio of people that like jazz...the rest of the audience (about 20 or thirty)seemed quite unmoved and indifferent to it..I guess that's just a fact of life
You have to offer them something different. If you just play the record that won't cut it. You have to create musical excitement, surprise, interact with the audience, otherwise it's just the same old, same old. I go into clubs and hear the band playing the same 50 yr. old music, in the same key, tempos and styles of the original recordings. It's boring.
So I have a big design to make right now that could effect my whole life. I have a great passion for aviation and music. I've been learning how to fly a plane. I'm in high school and I'm torn between two career paths. I love music. I'm in the high school marching band I can play multiple different instruments and I have a passion for music. I also have a passion for aviation. I've always been fascinated by anything that flew. I'm working on getting a student pilots license and I really hope to one day be an airline pilot. I have two great career paths to choose from and both i would really enjoy. I just don't know what decision I should make. I'm trying to account for the changing work force. The United States has a shortage of pilots. I would be able to find a job in that career. When I get out of college I could find a job but I don't know how long I would keep that job. With technology taking over who knows if in 10 years pilots won't be needed and computers would take over. It is also very hard to live as a professional musician. If I work hard enough I could definitely get full ride scholarships for a music career,but they doesn't account for after college. What would it do. I have a degree in music and I could join professional marching bands or orchestras but that's not a guarantee I could make a living. I'm not in the music for the money I'm in it because I love it but I also want to be able to live a stable lifestyle. I just need help on making a decision.
According to what you've stated, you could do both, successfully. It's a matter of how much time you have to focus both. Fine musicians do make a decent living. Those that don't rehearse enough or are narrow-minded generally fail or make weak money. Modern aviation will always use computers but we still need humans in the cockpit. What do your parents think?
I've been a full-time musician for most of my life and support a family in a very expensive place to live. You can make a living playing music, but it's a constant hustle ( unless you're a college professor.) I worked with world class musicians, and they're all worried about where their next gig was coming from. If you can accept a life of struggle in order to play full time, then go for it. I think you should persue a career in flying and make a nice living, and play for just the love of it. I'm lucky in the sense that I still love to write and play in my spare time. A lot of pro musicians I know HATE playing in their spare time. Its different when music is your job. Keep practicing no matter what and good luck.
Gaming with Drwho0204 Go with the aviation.Music is garbage now,and the music business itself is a huge stinking turd.The American Federation of Musicians is a rigged con game controlled by New York joos.So my experienced advice to you,is don't hesitate,AVIATE!
If you can't afford self hygiene, rent, healthy food and you are playing to impress other musicians, you definitely missed the mark. Play for money first then explore different possibilities on your own time, when you can afford it. Learn to play at least two more instruments. Spend allot of time alone practicing so when you perform for an audience it works "noone ever wants to hear you practice on stage" - Neil Peart
But let's talk about making it in music besides just getting good.Some of you out there (including this writer and vlogger) have the artist aspiration. You have been told by the very few who made it to believe in yourself and never give up. Well the simply fact is the arts are very different than any other profession. Because usually--someone else has to let you in. Now what I would tell you if you are 18 or 40 and feel that your destiny is in the arts? I would not tell you to just stay the "safe route" and give up on your dreams. I would tell you to pursue the artist aspiration smartly. Get another trade that you at least like. So the agents of industry never have you by the throat. You have to go to work anyway so you might as well have the job that pays well. I never went through the starving artist phase. I went through a starving student phase. So when I finally did pursue the artist endeavor I did it with a job I also like that contracts for 100K a year and four month vacations in Europe. That's how you go through being a starving artist. You don't starve at all. Hope this helps someone---Charles
How to get rich playing music:
1 Practice 2.Practice 3. Find oil
What does this mean? lol Someone please explain. I really wanna know.
How do you make a small fortune playing jazz?..... Start with a large one lol
An old woman approached a violin player after a show and said "oh, you played beautifully, I´d give up my whole life to be able to play like that" (loose translation). The violinist answered "well, lady, that´s exactly what I did".
zaxapitsa was the violin player old?like the old woman?
Antonio Mantané ...his age was never determined, but he did let the old lady blow him some moments later
Which is precocious talk for a 6 yo
I am happy that a lot of you are beginning to have this concept: Isaac Newton gave up all his life for the love of physics, and without such passion, there would be no cars today. Same goes to music. I am new in music. I started learning an instrument (guitar) and singing two or three years ago (2017). I only have the passion, no matter how slow my progress is. Those who learn it for the women or for money get lost and will not achieve the knowledge I have achieved in just under three years.
@@christophervance7080 lol
Great advice from all these greats. Kenny Barron is right on target.
Gregory Porter. Great singer, great material and great soloists backing him. Really glad he made it.
Terence Blanchard really knows what's up, especially with this many distractions these days.
Existence of exploration........ thank u
i get allways pissed when i play my guitar because i cant play things what i want to
Don't get mad get even: Practice everything you want to master slowly and build up to the tempo you want. Be patient with yourself. It takes time! Be well www.pulsejazz.com
You don't need booze, you need confidence and confidence comes from perfect practice.
I agree, don't get down on yourself which is easy to do when you get stuck. Try different approaches. One of many things that helped me. I get better at congas because I also play sax. It helps my sax playing be rhythmic and on time and keeps my drumming melodic. If you can sing it, you can play it.
Etta James?
Jones.
The best advice is dont be a musician. Its a colossal waste of time. Get a paying career. Learn a useful skill and live like a king.
Eric Owens nailed it
I was a musician for 60 yrs. Never made a lot of money, enough to live on, being a king was never my goal. If that is your goal. go for it but don't advise others. Why are you here?
Can't be about money. Can't be a hobby. Can't be just to get girls. In order to make it, it has to be who you are, nothing more, nothing less. The grind is too rigid and the demands are too great, and that's to be average!
thejazzman210 that's why i can't get on the next level then. i don't want it enough and i'm a lazy piece of shit.
i want to play real good but can't ( more like ' I don't want to') get on that level
@@GrumpyStormtrooper I want to be a mucisian and im a lazy piece of shit too XD just practice 5/10 min a day for the rest of your life and dont burn your head so much.
@@andralfoo practice practice practice. Robotically then when you feel something loosen up hit it hard and loud you will loose a sense of time, Or Time Dilation, almost, after that ... put it down for a while, a week maybe two,
then start practicing more complex pieces Robotically Repetitive
AD isn't as much of a thing anymore and a lot of niches are already populated. Therefore the competition is very stiff, there is money against you, and then on top of that you need to stand out. Tough.
I could see someone misinterpreting what you are saying.
From what I understand, you are saying that, to make it in the music industry, you can't make the music a hobby or for money or girls.
But someone might understand you as saying that music just can't be a hobby. There are many people who play music as a hobby, and they're pretty good. Not everyone is called to be a professional, but that doesn't make the music invalid or something if it's a hobby.
Like I said though, I believe you're talking about making it in the music business if I'm not mistaken.
The last one just hit so fucking hard I got guilty. I really need to do some shit now
Thomaz da Silva ha, yes! However, even if u don't play ur instrument, singing along to music, or listening to study pieces, or maybe singing over hip hop or drum n bass as if it was your instrument, is still study/practice. I play flute n sax, but did about 90 mins serious cajon study on Friday night!
Kenny Barron hit it right on the head, alot of current jazz and fusion long on complexity but short on emotion
Thomas J DiGenno Sr And Kenny Barron is a very complex, densely layered pianist (in my view). But he's always right there, never aloof or formal. The guy has a ton of heart.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH HIM. The younger kids I see are about"riffs and runs" very little heart behind it. I didn't start playing piano untill I was 35( I'm 54 now) and I'm STILL in process.
Cohesion/ compassion > complexity ALWAYS.
@@emmitjohnstone1734 great summary
@@frederickweeksjr.3287 How has your journey progressed? I Just started in earnest this year and I'm 38.I wish I would have started earlier but at least I'm here
to all young jazz school graduates... listen to kenny!
I agree. Many young players do not play with heart and feeling . It's all blowing too many notes and writing the most challenging compositions.
From south park?
Terrence Blanchard is really on point! I think many of the others are as well, but Terrence expressed what I feel very much.
I agree!
I read a quote about Chet Baker once that said he could say more in one note than most people can say in a whole song. That is the kind of heart felt musicality that most musicians lack.
Heart or ego? I heard him, after a gig, arguing with Paul Chambers about who had better ears. Dumb shit.
That was Louis Amstrongs note. Not Chet Baker
Louis was legendary with good reason, but the quote was about Chet.
Kenny Barron is ON POINT.
Word up. If I could afford it I would pay cats like Wynton Marsalis not to play. God bless you Kenny Barron for speaking the truth and carrying the torch.
Yes he is Lesole. But not all new Jazz musicians. My stuff is soulful and I'm so glad he pointed this out. Many students I know study the rudiments and get them right, but asking them to feel and connect is a whole other issue. Kenny is on the money when he says there is a disconnect. Music isn't about the head.
Melted Honey
How do you suggest a new student learn? Barron mentioned the woeful emphasis on scales and some other technical things over the emphasis on feeling, but how does one go about learning music from an emotional standpoint rather than a technical one?
@@lukaswarner5372 learn all the technical stuff first. Knowing chord voicings, scales,chord progressions,licks and your theory inside out and it will aid you in your ability to express yourself it doesn't hinder you at all it aids you. Just remember your playing music and it's not a contest and it's about expressing yourself.
Sum it up, practice everyday even if it's 10 minutes.
Uhhh no. I think other important point is to play music that’s from the heart. Something you feel. Not some intellectual nonsense.
I must keep studying. . . . enduring with a great attitude. . .my own style and concept. . Thanks
practice practice practice!!!!!!!!!
And you need to form a union. It ain’t about the money, but a musician puts so much time into his art, and he gives so many people so much joy that he (or she) deserves to live a life of dignity, not be nickeled and dimed.
Gerald O'Brien Agreed!
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Polo Lounge Whatever a scouser is.
Okay, now I know. No, my ancestors sailed West out of Ireland, not East.
VERY TRUE.
I am a young, upcoming musician myself, I am only 57 years old, non American, non rich, can't market my music, I have a very bright future, for I am the future :)
Dream on baby!
Dont let ur dream be dream :)
guard your heart , dont sell your soul, keep your eyes fixed on your purposes for creating if there no particular one, Get One, Make It The One who Created you and the Sound And Air the Light Water Currently Tiding By Moon and the Rising Red Flower, the One God the Existing One
JeHoVah
blessed be His Name.
By Him
Through Him
For Him
are all things.
PBUyou
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Music is spiritual and it creates a mood...you know when your on your game..sometimes if you play to predictable it's ok but doesnt always create something special where as when you let everything go and do something different in moment..the listener will be inspired *
I once heard the great New Orleans vocalist and musician, John Boutte, tell an audience that if anything is going to save this planet it just may be MUSIC.
Thank you so very much for this share. All them cats said the same thing in their individual voices. Just like improv. Bring it from the soul, no matter how long it may take. Day by day, you get closer and you make another heart happy. Bless.
Kenny Barron sums today's scene perfectly
I’m a drummer (16) all of my past drum teachers lessons I’ve cancelled until I found a teacher that let my play and learn improv learning techniques I can implement into playing ....
Cut to my live musicals in which I’m the core drummer and I’m making big decisions on how to cue the dancers and end songs and even the bows section all because I can feel the story of the musicals and can adjust accordingly
You are not good musician
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3:15 that's exactly what I feel when I listen to these super shreddy metal guys.. especially the ones on RUclips
Forget all the bullshit, 'inspirational', 'motivational' quotes. At the end of the day you just have to fucking practice. Practicing and bettering yourself is the only way, nobody else is gonna do it for you. Practice.
Very Inspiring comments from the greats. I agree that their are a lot of technical players out today but I very seldom remember what they play after it’s over and the music never leaves me in chill bumps. The soul is just not there.
Thanks for the video, great advices indeed. 📌
I started laughing when the guy with the sock around his face appeared.
He is a Great Singer but i have Never Seen him without it And i always think he Looks like a homeless man because of it 😄
+licenseless rider He's Isaac from The Love Boat.
Gregory Porter is a great singer. I got into his music a few years ago.
Gregory Porter is winning Grammies in jazz....excellent vocalist who had some situations when he was a kid that affected his skin...he’s getting his money...as a matter of fact he’ll be in Atlanta again on the 20th of this month...he’s laughing with you...to the bank 💰
Do you know who he is? Or what he has done? Check out his contribution before you laugh.
music from the heart.
HELP! Hey everyone, I really want to get better, and I am willing to put my everything into music, and singing.
I have a great voice, and I know that. I know that I can do great things,
I WANT TO PRACTICE, but I do not know HOW TO? I do not have a mentor. I NEED SOMEONE!!
I would Appreciate any help, tips for singing.
Pray and work. 🙏🌹
Ive noticed too that there are some younger players with mindbogglingly great technique but they dont seem to play from the heart. At first its very impressive but it does not really go anywhere. Lots of the younger players say standards bore them but perhaps they did not live the life of the older players who stayed in segregated hotels or killed themselves trying to get a gig for a long time.
There is no such a thing as talent! There's Devotion and (a lot of) Work.
"The problem with talent, is that you never really know if you have any." Robert Wyatt.
Kenny Barron's comment👍
Terence Blanchard's words from 4:47 were brilliant!!!
There is no secret, only practice. I grew up with a knack for dancing and relied upon this (proudly) until one day I got destroyed in a dance battle in a club. I went back to my friends feeling demoralised telling them of what happened. One of them replied with brutal honesty "Well, what did you expect? You don't even practice." That very moment...the sobering truth woke me up and then the real work began...practice, practice, practice.
One thing I’ve encountered through the years of playing, is the amount of competition, jealousy and back stabbing some of these so called musicians will pull. It’s a gift we are given to share, to entertain, not to compete.. Some will only try to bring you down. Get out there and surround yourself with the same like minded people to play with. Gig,play,gig,play and then some. Your best practice and learning will come from gigs. If your passionate about it, you will in time benefit from it, even if that one person approaches you after the gig to tell you how much they enjoyed your performance.
Chris, I can attest to what you just said. People will try to bring you down. I would add that if that's what you encounter, don't stay too long in that situation. In some cases musicians will force you to play louder or harder than you need to. That can lead to injury. Move on. I didnt know I could play again due to injuries. This won't necessarily happen at higher levels of well respected musicians. But because in jazz and certain Latin genres the gigs are disappearing and never were that plentiful in the first place, competition can be brutal ( since we're keeping it real).
In other words if there's a lot of tension in the group or club situation, move on! Be more like water and flow on.
I came upon this channel and read your comment and I will say you're SPOT ON. I play piano for a church and even in this arena it's a problem. I can't put the hours in what most do( I drive truck), bit when I'm home I practice quite a bit. Most people forget that it's not so much about the ooohs and aaahs as it is touching the heart. I believe we believe we need to encourage one another in their gifts and not be so quick to right someone off. Enjoyed your comment.
Frederick Weeks Jr. thank you. My wife always refers to me as the tortured artist. It can be frustrating when you are flooded with ideas, no matter the time of day or night. So much to share, so many ears not to hear. Just keep moving.
@@chriscollesano8463 TRUE. I hope your time comes to bring your stuff out
Gregory Porter may be forgiven for his reference to Etta "JONES", lol! I'm sure he meant Etta James!
Etta Jones was like a Dinah Washington. And then check out Ruth Brown!!
you just learned a lesson, good job! Dont be mad when you meet him. Hopefully, you will be lucky enough to meet him. ruclips.net/video/VBLaJtXbpRg/видео.html
No, he meant Etta JONES! He knows damn straight who he's talking about; make no mistake about that.
Etta Jones and Huston Persons were a dynamic duo for many years. They played so well together that people thought they were married, but they were not. They seemed to complete each other's sentences.
I saw Etta Jones in a small Jazz club in Lincoln Park, New Jersey. There were 6 people in the audience....myself and a table of 5 of Etta's family members. She is one of my favorite singers of all time.
calling it a 'gift' is false modesty - if the amount of time and effort that this 'gift' costs was spent on any other endeavour it would be charged at an appropriate rate, ie a lot more than it is currently
Great advice...... Remember you and all before you made the blueprints. These younger musicians are the children you all gave musical birth too. From a heavy black phones to the smartphone. Same concept but, the rate of process information and communicating is much faster. With age comes wisdom. I give blessing and thanks to those before, the present and future. The Creator is always creating......
RIP Roy Hargrove
And they should of said it’s not just recording company’s that rip musicians off its other musicians who rip musicians off ... ✨✨✨💰💰💰✨✨✨🤔😮🤭✨✨✨🎶🎶🎶✨✨✨🍄💌🍄✨✨✨
Damn I want to know where Roy Hargrove got those frames. (Yes, I'm that shallow.)
Kenny Barron said The It.The heart is the lighthouse for the mind
This is wonderful.
How did they get Steve Urkel to intro this?!
thanks to all involved in making this video! Proper got to me this one 👊😊
Really awesome! Thank you! This is so inspirational and encouraging!
"...and there's nothing wrong with that."
Bull-stinkin-crap there is. I feel more in my soul from a rock than from 99% of today's music.
Ok boomer
Well then I feel very sorry for you because you’re putting limits on yourself intellectually.
@@girlmusician24 yeah i bet he says that about games too since hes a geilinorian
great channel thank you so much for existing .....
Awesome feedback
Agree with Kenny Barron 100%
Yeah intellectual music sucks. It doesn’t impress me at all. Also technically difficult music with many notes or whatever else.. also not impressive.
thank you for posting this!
I know this is off topic but does anyone else hear that high-frequency sound in the background of the video?
I steal jazz chords to write my songs. 🐰🎸🎵🤝✌️
Terrence Blanchard speaking truth. And it’s encouraging.
Kenny Barron has the key in my opinion. It's supposed to be a conversation more so than a lecture. It's all great advise from great musicians. thanks.
I play the saxaphone I have three CDs out you can check them out they are all good not cause I said it my fans as well as real professional recording artists have my CD Saxaphonist Najee in smooth jazz has my CD he said when he heard it he thought I was on a label already he said to me I can tell you put the work into your music the playing the song selections the arrangements your good keep going ....so I am not on a label but my music shows I put the work into it and that I can live with ...everybody is not going to become famous just because your good it it's just not enough room for musicians to all become successful but you can all still become artists in your own city just record and gig and be happy with that ....I am I still have fans people buy my CD so I'm happy
not about paid? Think again Paid.
Music is about passion, desire, need. If you make it into the arena, you'll be paid & if not, will you stop playing music? If so, it wasn't really in you after all.
I hope this good advice artist orther artist is what are music you play different style and musician who always?
Marlene Belgrove what the fuck??
What?
lady, learn to write before writing.
Terence Blanchard nailed! By the way breathless is a beautiful album and so the live album with e-collective I have the honor to see him at Newport jazz festival.
Fascinating, great advice from all of them. 🙌🏼
Has to be from the heart. 👏🏼
that's a start but you're going to need more than that.
who posted this? Thank you so much
Great points!
This is all so true too. I'm only 34 and understand all of this
Play everyday as much as possible
A great video. Thank you all!
Poncho Sanchez , a good tune " Subway Harry "
I gave up being an athlete, because Musicians are Real PLAYER'S👊🏾🔥 MKE
Same here
Thank you, these are gold advises
I watch this video frequently as jus a regular musician! Can’t wait to revisit after I make it!!!!! 🖤 love to all
Master Barron! Heart!!
LOVE IT IAM OLD SCHOOL ANDY WILLIAMS SINATRA SMOKEY ALL THOSE GREAT S
“A constant existence of exploration” 💘
Rent is due, you & family are hungry.
No offense these are very irrational advice.
This was great.
These are the kind of guys you want in the band.
I'm a beatmaker but I've always thought of myself as a jazz musician, this advice was so helpful
I don't understand what is Kenny Barron talkin about. Nobody was singing Coltrane solos, no?. There is some young people today playing very deep music
Their names are?
Unfortunately modern jazz is a minority music...it has a much smaller audience than other forms of music such as pop. rock..country etc
Remember playing jazz in pub about ten years ago ...it was not a pub that had played jazz before ..mostly catered for rock and pop bands
At the end of the first set a couple of people came up and said they liked the music ..but had not heard it before ....and that is about the ratio of people that like jazz...the rest of the audience (about 20 or thirty)seemed quite unmoved and indifferent to it..I guess that's just a fact of life
You have to offer them something different. If you just play the record that won't cut it. You have to create musical excitement, surprise, interact with the audience, otherwise it's just the same old, same old. I go into clubs and hear the band playing the same 50 yr. old music, in the same key, tempos and styles of the original recordings. It's boring.
Thanks!
Preach Kenny Barron, preach!
Thanks " God bless
Great Advice!!! Music is life long endeavor to which one must be commited. Thanks.
Amazing!
So I have a big design to make right now that could effect my whole life. I have a great passion for aviation and music. I've been learning how to fly a plane. I'm in high school and I'm torn between two career paths. I love music. I'm in the high school marching band I can play multiple different instruments and I have a passion for music. I also have a passion for aviation. I've always been fascinated by anything that flew. I'm working on getting a student pilots license and I really hope to one day be an airline pilot. I have two great career paths to choose from and both i would really enjoy. I just don't know what decision I should make. I'm trying to account for the changing work force. The United States has a shortage of pilots. I would be able to find a job in that career. When I get out of college I could find a job but I don't know how long I would keep that job. With technology taking over who knows if in 10 years pilots won't be needed and computers would take over. It is also very hard to live as a professional musician. If I work hard enough I could definitely get full ride scholarships for a music career,but they doesn't account for after college. What would it do. I have a degree in music and I could join professional marching bands or orchestras but that's not a guarantee I could make a living. I'm not in the music for the money I'm in it because I love it but I also want to be able to live a stable lifestyle. I just need help on making a decision.
According to what you've stated, you could do both, successfully. It's a matter of how much time you have to focus both. Fine musicians do make a decent living. Those that don't rehearse enough or are narrow-minded generally fail or make weak money. Modern aviation will always use computers but we still need humans in the cockpit. What do your parents think?
I've been a full-time musician for most of my life and support a family in a very expensive place to live. You can make a living playing music, but it's a constant hustle ( unless you're a college professor.) I worked with world class musicians, and they're all worried about where their next gig was coming from. If you can accept a life of struggle in order to play full time, then go for it. I think you should persue a career in flying and make a nice living, and play for just the love of it. I'm lucky in the sense that I still love to write and play in my spare time. A lot of pro musicians I know HATE playing in their spare time. Its different when music is your job. Keep practicing no matter what and good luck.
Gaming with Drwho0204 Go with the aviation.Music is garbage now,and the music business itself is a huge stinking turd.The American Federation of Musicians is a rigged con game controlled by New York joos.So my experienced advice to you,is don't hesitate,AVIATE!
no female musicians...
Right On fellows !
Just found out Wallace Roney died last month from Covid-19... damn...
3:48 this hit me hard...
If you can't afford self hygiene, rent, healthy food and you are playing to impress other musicians, you definitely missed the mark. Play for money first then explore different possibilities on your own time, when you can afford it. Learn to play at least two more instruments. Spend allot of time alone practicing so when you perform for an audience it works "noone ever wants to hear you practice on stage" - Neil Peart
This is so inspiring.
thank you so much
But let's talk about making it in music besides just getting good.Some of you out there (including this writer and vlogger) have the artist aspiration. You have been told by the very few who made it to believe in yourself and never give up. Well the simply fact is the arts are very different than any other profession. Because usually--someone else has to let you in. Now what I would tell you if you are 18 or 40 and feel that your destiny is in the arts? I would not tell you to just stay the "safe route" and give up on your dreams. I would tell you to pursue the artist aspiration smartly. Get another trade that you at least like. So the agents of industry never have you by the throat. You have to go to work anyway so you might as well have the job that pays well. I never went through the starving artist phase. I went through a starving student phase. So when I finally did pursue the artist endeavor I did it with a job I also like that contracts for 100K a year and four month vacations in Europe. That's how you go through being a starving artist. You don't starve at all. Hope this helps someone---Charles