My daughter was a student at Ricks College when he was president of the school. She was running on the track. Very few people were on the track. Bednar came running up behind her and crashed really hard into the side of her, for no apparent reason. It appeared to be deliberate. It was not to avoid other people, because there were no others around. Was it because she was wearing shorts above the knee? He did not apologize or say excuse me. She just chalks it up to one of the weirdest moments in her life. She has told me this story many times.
Well, I'm absolutely gobsmacked!!!! A young woman running on a track wearing shorts above her knees!!!! Come on, people--even you religious nuts. A woman wearing shorts above her knees does NOT deserve a scarlet letter, she's not a 'harlot', she's not being a "loose" woman. This is the year 2025 AD, not 2025 BCE.
They call him Darth Bednar..... they say he was a strict Pharisee at BYU Idaho when he was dean. ...... "To be offended is a choice we make; it is not a condition inflicted or imposed upon us by someone or something else." -Bednar. Only Robots never get offended the rest of us its the human condition. His new one is.. we have no "free agency" once we get baptized at 8. This leads to Now we have the "moral agency" to go on a mission. We all gave up or free agency when baptized at 8 to do what God and his church wants. This is Satans plan. to take away agency and make everyone obey and return to heavenly father.
I met him at a fireside in Alabama when I was about 13/14. I agree with the sentiment that he seems cold. He didn’t smile except for when everyone stood for him when he entered. I shook his hand and remembered thinking he was short and had nothing in his eyes. I had expected warmth, like when I met Uchtdorf. Susan Bednar seemed sweet, but very sad.
Lowkey, I’ve been an apostate/ex since like 2009/2010, but Uchtdorf is my favorite apostle of all time. I’ll sit through Uchtdorf talking any day of the week over most of the rest.
I met him many years ago. He was so condescending and arrogant that I began to wonder if he was truly an apostle of the Lord. He was all about MAKING people do things instead of respecting their free agency. By the time we were finished I couldn’t help but think, the “A” of his middle initial most likely stands for “Asshole“. Later, I heard many people refer to him as Darth Bednar. David Asshole Bednar and Darth Bednar are both very fitting…
I have spent 2 hours behind closed doors with Bednar as a former member of an LDS stake presidency. His arrogance was unbelievable. I found it to be 2 of the worst hours I have ever spent as a member of the church. My experiences with him have impacted my testimony. After my time with him, I am convinced he is NOT a prophet, seer, revelator, or apostle. At least not one that the Jesus of the New Testament would have anything to do with.
He spent the first 15 minutes making sure we understood how fortunate we were to "have the keys in your stake." He reminded us that out of the many places in the world he could be, "our stake was chosen" and "we should carefully consider why one of the Lord's anointed is spending part of the weekend with us." He then sat smugly while we tried to come up with answers to this incredible privilege. He seemed irritated when we couldn't point out anything profound (we were experiencing the same challenges as every other stake in the world-people leaving in high numbers, youth disengaged, nonexistent ministering numbers, missionaries returning early, mostly uninspiring worship services, etc.). He didn't offer any solutions to our problems you would expect from someone "who can see around corners." His tone was condescending and unfriendly, and there was no genuine warmth in his demeanor. He reminded me of what it was like to be in the presence of Boyd Packer (yeah, I have hung out with him, too). Basically, it felt like he was a corporate representative, not an emissary of Jesus. I felt liberated by the fact that he was just an ordinary guy that I wouldn't want to grab a burger with, let alone look to for guidance from on high. Last thing, he did everything he could to avoid interacting with our stake members. He stood up and walked out to his car immediately after the "special" meeting with his security detail and didn't look back. Everyone was disappointed.
The way I see it he is doing the Lord's work by being who he is. If anyone is influencing others to question whether he's really a representative of God, he's the guy with his entitled, asshole behavior. I just feel sorry for his wife, Susan, who appears to be a long-suffering wife to an abusive husband in public, let alone what may be going on at home.
Mentioning Bednar walking out of a musical just because of a few mild swear words makes me think of this question: Who is more mature? Someone who uses offensive language, or someone easily offended by said language, including when it's not directed at them?
@@chlyriwhat is offensive language? why? And to whom? At least swearing is for sure not always a lie while the pretending you speak holy and never have bad thoughts for sure is always lied and pretend. Well it is certainly better to speak truth without the use of A and F, I, B, MF, etc. No argument there. I prefer being with people who are sincere and can be honest about expressing feelings and I can’t stand being with people who are so fake they will never know what fake pretending and superficial demeanor is. “How are you?• and you try to have a conversation but they have moved on by the time the R from the word ARE has hit the floor and you get to only reply “ho u..” our society is so fake. Dropping the f bomb there is certainly no harm because these fakes are long gone passed you by the time the “k” slips into position.
Good, on the right track to God worship. We must carefully adamantly weigh that. Follow God, Jesus and Holy Ghost, Hear what the apostles and prophets have to say, proof it against the testimony of truth by from with tue Holy Ghost, and adhere to that what you personally from the Holy Ghost receive that you should do. The prophet does not speak for you to God. Jesus does with his atonement, which enables agency and the Holy Ghost testifies of them and teaches all truth, dividing essentially the light from the darkness. Prophet and Apostles are absolutely essential to keep hold represent the keys to our ordinances, covenants of priesthood and the preaching of the Lord’s Gospel. But proof it test it. that is my take. I met Bednar some years back. He was a bit weird and autocratic, but I am weird too and so I didn’t think of it as a bad experience. Today I would not treat him any differently that I would treat my next door neighbor who is not a member in the church. I really have a strong opinion against Prophet worship. Anyone can walk with God and has Angel visitation or the Lord visit and you are not becoming a prophet because of it. I don’t hold the keys given to the q-12. that’s the difference.
@ even god said “you shall have no other gods before me” all this really shows is what this church is really about, feeding the massive egos of a few select men.
I used to be a banquet server at LDA Church headquarters. Every month, all of the wives of the general authorities would get together to have a catered lunch. I noticed that Susan, his wife, always had a haunted and sad look in her eyes. Really nice lady, but her demeanor was that of a whipped puppy. 😢
There are a lot of wounderful men in the church. That’s a huge blanket statement. Not fair. I feel bad for any woman or man who is not treated as Christ says we should be treated. Women who are abused, also men, children who are molested by parent (s) judges, police ministers, fireman neighbors, aunts, uncles, friends ,Dr, lawyer……on and on. Who feels safe, loved….real love. Christlike love. Religious or not. He is the example.this is not limited to LDS men only.
Straight away, even as a TBM, Bednar came across as a projecting, malignant narcissist, at least to those that tend to be more empathic or even highly sensitive, there is something that is just not right. To the point that if anything shocking ever came out, well it would not be that shocking. I never worried that much about Bednar though even as a TBM because as an adult in my 30s maybe early 40s, I attended a meeting at the MTC for missionary work with Elder Groberg. When I shook his hand, there was something so dark and hollow, it literally gave me chills... I remember thinking, "I am sure the church is true but something isn't right". I began reflecting on ETB's talks on The Church being under condemnation and never remember said condemnation ever being lifted. As a TBM that meant something to me wondering if and when Christ would come and put The Church in order. Anyway, when the shelf finally came a crashing, in some ways it was such a relief to just take a step back from all the BS and not have to even think about these jerks any longer or much less pretend to sustain these A-holes. I am telling you something is wrong... and when and if something crazy and shocking comes out, my first thought will be, "I told you so!"
I don't have personal experience with Bednar but I met Quentin Cook at my stake center years ago. He came to speak to us leaders within the stake. After he was done I went up to meet him and let me tell you, it was not what I expected. He was rude and acted annoyed that I even approached him.
I think he was called during the time of my faith crisis, so I never heard him as a faithful member. So all the times I have heard him speak I couldn't hear his message over the extreme arrogance and self-aggrandizing tone with which he speaks! It's so off-putting!!
I started to question the authority of LDS church leaders in high school. My seminary teacher told me that I was going to hell because my OCD and Depression. I consoled with my bishop and he didn't really give me an answer to why that was said. After that I felt destroyed, like it was my fault for my mental health issues. I fell into a spiral of self-hate, I began to question: Why are this people in charge and how are they to tell me anything? I hate the idea of authority in religion and how they can abuse followers without consequence. It has been 13+ years since I stopped going to church, I have had the time to piece together my thoughts on religion. I have since found my place in the world and come to understand myself. In hindsight, religion suppressed my creative and enjoyment for life. Now when I listen to religious authorities speak, I can't ignore the manipulative lies woven into their speeches. Religion is poisonous towards personal expression and societal progression. I don't say this out of pure spite (though that is partially true), I want to say my experiences, in hope to help someone that is in a similar situation.
When you say religion is poisonous, I hope that you only refer to the LDS one. I pray for you to find a true Christian community where you can be wrapped in the pure love of our Savior Jesus Christ.
@@celiamartin2907 same here!! I still belive in Jesus Christ . read his story he was amazing!! he criticized all the Pharisees or leaders at the time. sat with the sinners... broke all the rules... then got Crucified for it!!
I’m sorry you’re losing the other platform. I love your content and it makes me feel not as alone since leaving the church. If you keep posting to RUclips, I’ll keep watching
Elder Bednar came to reorganize out stake presidency. All his talk focused on was "who is in charge" at different levels of the church. It was a terrible focus. and I felt sorry for any members that might have brought investigators to such an uninspiring event. He seethes with narcissism.
I heard that Bednar went to a missionary conference and noticed a missionary with stickers on the back of his missionary plaque. He pulled it off and snapped it in half and condemned the missionary for the disrespect the missionary was showing to the Savior as his representative.
As non-Mormon who grew up in Utah, I went to school with many of his type. Boys, especially oldest boys, are often golden children who can do no wrong in their parents' eyes. This treatment goes to their heads and they are certain of their greatness and correctness in all things despite any evidence. If they are lucky to also rise high in the church, of course they're going to be insufferable. Meanwhile, the oldest daughters are often conscripted to be second mom to their younger siblings and don't have much of a social life.
The whole 1/10 - 9/10 thing is a sentiment that I've heard from leadership throughout my life, especially in church schools. I think it is meant somewhat as a joke, but it creates a toxic culture and is painful for men dealing with abuse.
It’s said to counter the oversized unable to hear anything egos of at least the majority of LDS men and the culture. Abuse happens in all genders, race, income, locations, religions. That doesn’t mean by drawing attention to where it happens most often we don’t acknowledge it isn’t the only place. Hope that helps.
Bednar was appointed to Apostleship when he was unusually young for modern LDS Apostles. That is significant because the most senior Apostle becomes the next President. The people in front of Bednar are approaching 100 years old. Bednar will likely become President within a decade. Then, if he lives as long as his peers, he will be the President for a very long time.
Well this was the same thing thought about Harold Lee, but that racist croaked fast. Granted that over 50 years ago with different life expectancy times, but one can hope.
6:23 if I heard this as a missionary I would’ve felt so bad. I only made it 3 months in my mission, and I never felt like I was good enough. My mission trauma would probably be much worse if I heard his words.
Don’t feel sorry for her. She loves the luxury lifestyle that comes with being his wife. She’s probably a pimo herself but won’t give up the lifestyle because that’s the lifestyle most women strive for
@BrianWaller-qe7gr A gilded cage is still a cage. She doesn't stay because of a "luxury lifestyle." She stays because a temple marriage is a prison. Forsaking her husband and marriage in the LDS church is to forsake EVERYTHING, LDS family, friends, community, eternal salvation, everything. She's trapped in an abusive relationship. That includes financial abuse, because you'd be hard pressed to convince me he gives her even the slightest free reign over their wealth. I feel very sorry for her.
There was a play in Nauvoo made by the Church where they say hell in it as part of a joke. I bet Bednar would have walked out on that as well. Would have loved to have seen him around the "Swearing Apostle" J. Golden Kimball.
This is hilarious.. I'd love to hear a whole series on this.. I've heard 3 different apostles speak in person. I have always been amazed on how uninspired they were..
I left the church 25+ years ago. Occasionally, I'll watch some recent clips on RUclips of general conference and various other recordings, just to remind me of what a wise decision that was. Bednar was one of those I watched and he bored me to tears. It was ironic, I thought, that he talked about the evil of pride! What a narcissist!
That telling that certain people will be alive for the Second Coming is a great way to accomplish a number of things at once-shows you have the power of prophesy, hints that the time is near but not too near or everyone would be alive, stifles thoughts of leaving the church because if you do, you’ll miss it,
There aren't many steps between Bednar and the presidency. Once RMN and Oaks go, it won't be long at all before Uchtdorf is at the top, and Bednar is right behind him. Let's pray for a long and healthy life for Uchtdorf.
Uchtdorf is a pilot and is in good health for his age. Hopefully he will live a long healthy life. Nelson, Oaks and Holland will all go pretty soon and Uchtdorf becomes prophet. After him it’s Bednar. You are going from one of the kindest church leaders to the worst.
Im posting this before even watching this, but something about this man has always given me the irks. When i saw the notification come up while at work, i made a face that was predominant enough that one of my coworkers asked me what happened and all I got out was "David Bednar is at it again". As a never mo, hes surely confused and i wasnt going to take the time to explain it all to him. He doesnt know who David Bednar is, he doesnt know what the heck happens in this church, and all i could tell him was "I'm so thankful you don't know"
I know really. I was accused of and excommunicated for an “affair” that never happened. They allow any nut job to lead wards and stakes. And I guess all the way up the ladder"
Dang I’m sad I missed your submission call. I have the most horrific story from when Bednar visited my mission. It’s still so upsetting to me when I think about what happened. He is an absolutely narcissistic nightmare.
True story. In 2014 I ran into him at the La Paz airport in Bolivia at 5am. It was just him, his wife and some bodyguards. I had been home from my mission a couple months so I was super excited to meet him. I completely ignored his wife, which in hindsight I feel bad about. But he was nice. I asked for advice, and he said “don’t try to find the perfect wife, because you’re never going to find her, and if you do, she won’t want you anyways. It’s your job to become the perfect husband” At the time I thought it was great advice, but looking back, the fact that he said that right in front of his wife is kinda messed up 😂
@@BrianWaller-qe7gr yea it wasn’t terrible advice lol but just thinking about Susan in the background like “thanks David” It’s more the comment of “if you do find her, she won’t want you anyway” So what you settled for Susan cause the other one rejected you? Tbf I’m not giving bednar the benefit of the doubt here haha but given all this I hear about him, it is interesting look back at that
he came to visit my country years ago, i was probably a teen at the time. nothing weird happened during his speech, but after the meeting lots of people, including myself, went to the podium to just say hi and shake his hand. and honestly he just seemed like he couldn't care less. i was pretty bummed out about it because of course i was a tbm at the time, and really believed this was a man of god.
Oaks has always frightened me. Holland never seemed mean. Bear in mind that I'd not seen a whole GC prior to baptism. If I had, I'd likely not have been baptized.
My Ex-mormon friends tell me that you cannot see how dictatorial these Priesthood holders are until you're out of the org. Smugness and superiority on a level with Gavin Newsom.
Oops. You lost me there, jerrymonk. I especially like Gavin Newsom. But I respect your opinion, of course, and he is definitely NOT universally liked. Also, I can see how becoming a general authority could be disastrous for an insecure guy. Sounds like Bednar is a little wobbly in the self-awareness department. The illusion of being worshipped is irresistible to most of us. Bednar is kind of a classic example of the danger, and political leaders are also susceptible.
Bednar came to a stake conference in WA where I was living at the time. I had never heard of him before, so I had no opinion other than "cool, a GA is here". When he started speaking I was struck by his arrogance, his lack of connecting to the audience, and some of his remarks struck me as very odd, almost bossy like. It's the first time ever I got up and walked out of stake conference, out to the parking lot where I couldn't hear his voice, waiting for him to finish. It was the first time I'd ever felt a coldness emanating from someone who supposedly should be important. I can't stand his demeanor. It was the worst stake conference I've ever attended. I didn't say anything to my friends, I thought it was just me. Until the next year when I heard others say almost exactly what I felt. I'm now an ex-Mo and could care less what he says.
He came to my mission and spoke. Our mission president and his wife later told us in a zone conference (I think) that they had a private meal with him and his wife. They asked "What happens when the disobedient missionaries baptise?". His response was "They are condemned to hell." I didn't question it or think much of it as a missionary, but looking back now, that never made sense to me and wasn't an intelligent answer, just very culty and fear mongering. Obedience above all else I guess!
This feels like the creepiest story of all. Yes, no intelligence at all in that response. It sounds like his brain is on a reptilian-like auto pilot. If that was the path to hell, you'd think doctrine would address it. I wonder how many other wackadoodle bonus paths to hell his mind is manufacturing.
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I don't have any experience with Bednar, but I will say that his radical views and mannerisms (even by Mormon standards) are not at all surprising. We are living in a culture where the rift between fundamentalist religion and everone else is getting wider by the minute. There really is no middle ground anymore. Either you stand with religious extremists, or you stand with everyone else. Even people who consider themselves to be quite religious are often blindsided by the level of extremism that some of their peers and colleagues exhibit. That being said, they don't do anything to stop it. Someone like Bednar, who is disliked by most people, will still rise to prominence within the church because people won't speak out against him. Instead, they will leave the religion and go elsewhere while those who support Bednar will adopt his attitude of belittlment, judgement, and strict fundamentalism. I wouldn't be surprised if Bednar is the first of what will eventually be many church leaders like him.
I don't know Mr. . Betnar but when he took free agency away from the LDS community,, that more than broke my shelf. What I see and hear from the guy , I'm not a fan. He's a very controlling, hierarchy ( And I would not be shocked at all if he treated his wife really bad at home when he's not in public) and she lives in a very controlling environment. Again just my opinion.... What I was thinking today is why in the world would they allow president monson who had dementia at least 5 years before he passed,, remain as president of the church. I think there were a few things during his reign he was not able to have an opinion on that he or President should have. At least one that talks to God. Why would the Mormon church leaders not perceive or receive Revelation about their future say 20 years ago? Winter garden prepared them for this to change a few things in their doctrine and their ways to protect their gospel? Yes if the church was true God would have done this. There would have been plenty of foresight with the leaders. Just think about it. They were too comfortable, traveling getting their bills paid not having to pay tithing enjoying life laid-back and not listening. September 6 and when they came out with the book saints. They should have told the truth. After reading a few books about the history of the church I started reading the first book The saints. I know that more than likely the whole thing was gaslight. The saints series The books are all gaslight. Just like the history of the church.
Have you seen the cartoon literature that is made for young children on polygamy?? They had gone from full denial to there was Fanny.. to Polygamy for Kids to groom them into sexual situations
My boyfriend lives in Oakland and I lived with him for two years. I find it so bizarre that he is from there. Everyone there is so nice and chill. Why is he the way he is?? I don't get it
I don't know Bednar at all, but have seen him at Church Conferences and other affairs pertaining to the church. He seems like he's in love with his calling, thus, with himself . I was surprised see that he is an Apostle of the LDS Church. It didn't take long to not like him.
I met an old neighbor of his who said that he was one of the meanest men, totally dis respectful and not even being close to being humble. Ironically he said very nice things about his wife but he said something didn’t seem right about his marriage based on how his wife acted. I was a Temple worker at the time and short of shrugged all of this off but since then I have heard the same thing from others. Not know what to say now as an active Mormon who believes these men should be living by a higher standard.
I remember when I was going through my faith crisis, Bednar came to my hometown. Naturally I attended. I hoped to get some guidance or a spiritual experience. It may have been almost exclusively a Q&A. If the Church were real and there was an apostle somewhere to answer questions, that would be a great opportunity to give specific, inspired guidance to God's children, right? Instead, many of his answers were in the vein of "Read your scriptures and pray, silly; you don't need to ask me that and you should know better" even though people were being somewhat vulnerable in a room of over 500 people, probably. It was one of many nails in the coffin. When I was a teen I shook hands with L. Tom Perry, who was at my ward unannounced for some reason. I was there to prepare the sacrament and not many were there, or hadn't noticed him yet, so I briefly had him to myself. He seemed genuine and friendly. As far as cussing in 1856--I saw it once, and don't remember any swear words. Maybe the actors were more polite. It doesn't bother me that he walked out if he was expecting better, as one would, since it's a play written by members.
David Bednar, born 3rd month 22nd day of Hebrew calendar (Sivan 22 is 3.22 on Hebrew calendar) his dad was born 3.10 on Julian calendar and his mom died its reverse 10.3… his dad was born 6.21 on hebrew calendar and died its reverse 1.26 on Gregorian calendar… his whole family was ritually murdered. Bednar is the skull and bones proohet and his fascination with number 322 is over the top
On my mission, he visited and did a Q&A with the missionaries. After a few questions, he told everyone that they were asking the wrong questions. He was so condescending to the whole mission. I was such a TBM at the time, that I thought that I was in the wrong for being curious about the "wrong" things.
My last contact with Bednar was at Rose Bowl 1.1 2010… he sat to my right in stadium for about an hour… prior to that i ran into Bednar at BYU Hawaii visitor center when they had the Dead Sea scroll display.. last physical contact with Bednar was in cruise ship Norweigian Pearl 17May2012 off coast of Canada headed to 8n land passage of Alaska,, he can’t erase himself from the manifests,,,
Okay, so I don’t support the author anymore, but I am so heavily reminded of the Harry Potter books. Especially with the reading assignments, this man is practically professor Lockheart’s uglier twin! 😂
@ im so glad I wasn’t the only one. He has all of the arrogance, self-importance, at this point infamy, and lack of empathy without any of the charisma and charm.
10:10 - how much do you want to bet he turned this story into a talk about how he and Susan were the only ones righteous/brave/obedient enough to leave?
Grant Palmer [R.I.P] stated : "Mormonism needs a new Jesus". Fully agree!. I do not believe the real Jesus to have anything to do with the Mormon church based on the crap quality of G.A's appointed by Mormongod.
HE WALKED OUT OF 1776!? LOOOOOOOOSER! 1776 is the shit. I’m still convinced that’s how it really went down, with everyone just purposely trying to make John Adams mad. Also, this is completely off him as a subject but at 7:11 you mention patriarchal blessings. I still have mine, and it. is. wild. I mean like, storybook/movie wild. Though there’s a funny bit in it where it says I would be given the gift of tongues, and will be amazed at the things that I say. Which, honestly, having been an exmo since 2009, is strikingly true. Because I am amazed that I went from desperately needing some faith changing thing when I was a practicing Mormon to now feeling I never needed any of that, and just needed Alan Watts lectures 🤣
I’m not sure where it was, it might be on Nemo’s channel but for part 2 you HAVE to talk about that REALLY creepy video of bednar at a face to face or something and manhandling a 10 year old boy as an object lesson for “sin keeping you from returning to the right path” or some bull. It’s really concerning
Not surprised he acted like that. One of his kids lived in my mission. He'd visit around Christmas time and was known to be little elders. He always has that gross look when he meets local members, like there dirty or something.
I always thought he was a chill guy but nope it's the opposite lol, he really thinks he's something else eh, can't wait for part 2. 5:08 oh god, girl please divorce him....you're too good for him.
The patriarchal blessing thing seems to be a joke now that im older. It says the generic crap about having a spouse, kids, going on a mission etc. Here i am in my 40s: single, childless and never went on a mission and my mom whos a devoted mormon was like well, youll have a family in the " next life". Whatever. Also, i went to my bishop about my sexual abuse and ask for possible counseling. He denied my request and then he told me it wasnt my fault but then told me to read the scriptures, pay my tithing and read some article from the ensign about being a subservient wife..like wtf did that even have to do with my situation? Then expected me to follow up with him in a few weeks. I know this is not about Bednar but still. I was already having doubts in the church and having a shitty bishop does not help. I know they are not psychologists but still. Showing some empathy would be helpful and would make people feel more welcome into a church.
Hi! I met David A. Bednar in Riga 10+ years ago. He was there with some other prominent elders like Ronald A. Rasband (not an apostle then yet) and Gerald Causse. I played the piano for the meeting. After the event apostle Bednar came up to me and shook my hand and said thanks for playing the piano. I felt honoured for such a notice, because my role was quite minor, accompanying hymns sang by the congregation. Also I remember he shook hands with everybody who wanted to meet him after the event. So from my experience there was nothing negative. He accepted questions from the audience, but before that he did indeed lay out a framework for those questions, that people would not ask just anything, that I remember!
Makes me want to go to something where he is speaking or doing a q&a and ask him if he’s always repenting for treating his wife like shit. I would tell him we all notice and hope for her sake that he is humbled and repents.
My daughter was a student at Ricks College when he was president of the school. She was running on the track. Very few people were on the track. Bednar came running up behind her and crashed really hard into the side of her, for no apparent reason. It appeared to be deliberate. It was not to avoid other people, because there were no others around. Was it because she was wearing shorts above the knee? He did not apologize or say excuse me. She just chalks it up to one of the weirdest moments in her life. She has told me this story many times.
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Well, I'm absolutely gobsmacked!!!! A young woman running on a track wearing shorts above her knees!!!! Come on, people--even you religious nuts. A woman wearing shorts above her knees does NOT deserve a scarlet letter, she's not a 'harlot', she's not being a "loose" woman. This is the year 2025 AD, not 2025 BCE.
Maybe he should have taken a cold shower.
@@YogaPainter I believe you and/or her, that tracks
I would call that assault.
They call him Darth Bednar..... they say he was a strict Pharisee at BYU Idaho when he was dean. ...... "To be offended is a choice we make; it is not a condition inflicted or imposed upon us by someone or something else." -Bednar. Only Robots never get offended the rest of us its the human condition. His new one is.. we have no "free agency" once we get baptized at 8. This leads to Now we have the "moral agency" to go on a mission. We all gave up or free agency when baptized at 8 to do what God and his church wants. This is Satans plan. to take away agency and make everyone obey and return to heavenly father.
The way his wife and Congregation reacts is an example how brainwashed LD$ are. Regardless of comments saying No Way 😅
That's exactly how his energy and he presents.
lol Bednar is right, you are wrong.
Love the irony of him being so offended by swear words he left a play haha. Only a choice when you’re not at the receiving end huh 😂
@@JakobPGrau LOL what is david right about?- LOL
I met him at a fireside in Alabama when I was about 13/14. I agree with the sentiment that he seems cold. He didn’t smile except for when everyone stood for him when he entered. I shook his hand and remembered thinking he was short and had nothing in his eyes. I had expected warmth, like when I met Uchtdorf. Susan Bednar seemed sweet, but very sad.
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Most people I say people because women are just as guilty when put on a pedestal their ego goes to the moon. Never pedestalize another human being
Sweet and very sad; mormon women in a nutshell
Lowkey, I’ve been an apostate/ex since like 2009/2010, but Uchtdorf is my favorite apostle of all time.
I’ll sit through Uchtdorf talking any day of the week over most of the rest.
I met him many years ago. He was so condescending and arrogant that I began to wonder if he was truly an apostle of the Lord. He was all about MAKING people do things instead of respecting their free agency. By the time we were finished I couldn’t help but think, the “A” of his middle initial most likely stands for “Asshole“.
Later, I heard many people refer to him as Darth Bednar.
David Asshole Bednar and Darth Bednar are both very fitting…
I have spent 2 hours behind closed doors with Bednar as a former member of an LDS stake presidency. His arrogance was unbelievable. I found it to be 2 of the worst hours I have ever spent as a member of the church. My experiences with him have impacted my testimony. After my time with him, I am convinced he is NOT a prophet, seer, revelator, or apostle. At least not one that the Jesus of the New Testament would have anything to do with.
Y. Explain
He spent the first 15 minutes making sure we understood how fortunate we were to "have the keys in your stake." He reminded us that out of the many places in the world he could be, "our stake was chosen" and "we should carefully consider why one of the Lord's anointed is spending part of the weekend with us." He then sat smugly while we tried to come up with answers to this incredible privilege. He seemed irritated when we couldn't point out anything profound (we were experiencing the same challenges as every other stake in the world-people leaving in high numbers, youth disengaged, nonexistent ministering numbers, missionaries returning early, mostly uninspiring worship services, etc.).
He didn't offer any solutions to our problems you would expect from someone "who can see around corners." His tone was condescending and unfriendly, and there was no genuine warmth in his demeanor. He reminded me of what it was like to be in the presence of Boyd Packer (yeah, I have hung out with him, too). Basically, it felt like he was a corporate representative, not an emissary of Jesus. I felt liberated by the fact that he was just an ordinary guy that I wouldn't want to grab a burger with, let alone look to for guidance from on high.
Last thing, he did everything he could to avoid interacting with our stake members. He stood up and walked out to his car immediately after the "special" meeting with his security detail and didn't look back. Everyone was disappointed.
@@pvanmondfrans oh wow... dats sad
@@pvanmondfransThis sounds miserable for you to have experienced.
Don’t forget he is damn LIGHTWEIGHT.
I've never met him. But long before I ever heard any of the stories about him, I thought "That man looks angry and mean. All. the. time."
The way I see it he is doing the Lord's work by being who he is. If anyone is influencing others to question whether he's really a representative of God, he's the guy with his entitled, asshole behavior. I just feel sorry for his wife, Susan, who appears to be a long-suffering wife to an abusive husband in public, let alone what may be going on at home.
Mentioning Bednar walking out of a musical just because of a few mild swear words makes me think of this question: Who is more mature? Someone who uses offensive language, or someone easily offended by said language, including when it's not directed at them?
using "offensive" language isn't a sign of maturity.
@@chlyriwhat is offensive language? why? And to whom? At least swearing is for sure not always a lie while the pretending you speak holy and never have bad thoughts for sure is always lied and pretend. Well it is certainly better to speak truth without the use of A and F, I, B, MF, etc. No argument there. I prefer being with people who are sincere and can be honest about expressing feelings and I can’t stand being with people who are so fake they will never know what fake pretending and superficial demeanor is. “How are you?• and you try to have a conversation but they have moved on by the time the R from the word ARE has hit the floor and you get to only reply “ho u..” our society is so fake. Dropping the f bomb there is certainly no harm because these fakes are long gone passed you by the time the “k” slips into position.
This guy is pure ego. He expects deference in all aspects of life. The opposite of humility.
The whole standing thing feels like prophet/apostle worship. They eat it up. Makes me feel gross.
I do agree with that.
Good, on the right track to God worship. We must carefully adamantly weigh that. Follow God, Jesus and Holy Ghost, Hear what the apostles and prophets have to say, proof it against the testimony of truth by from with tue Holy Ghost, and adhere to that what you personally from the Holy Ghost receive that you should do. The prophet does not speak for you to God. Jesus does with his atonement, which enables agency and the Holy Ghost testifies of them and teaches all truth, dividing essentially the light from the darkness. Prophet and Apostles are absolutely essential to keep hold represent the keys to our ordinances, covenants of priesthood and the preaching of the Lord’s Gospel. But proof it test it. that is my take. I met Bednar some years back. He was a bit weird and autocratic, but I am weird too and so I didn’t think of it as a bad experience. Today I would not treat him any differently that I would treat my next door neighbor who is not a member in the church. I really have a strong opinion against Prophet worship. Anyone can walk with God and has Angel visitation or the Lord visit and you are not becoming a prophet because of it. I don’t hold the keys given to the q-12. that’s the difference.
@ even god said “you shall have no other gods before me” all this really shows is what this church is really about, feeding the massive egos of a few select men.
I used to be a banquet server at LDA Church headquarters. Every month, all of the wives of the general authorities would get together to have a catered lunch. I noticed that Susan, his wife, always had a haunted and sad look in her eyes. Really nice lady, but her demeanor was that of a whipped puppy. 😢
You're not the first to say that.
This breaks my heart.
I feel so bad for any women married to these LDS "men."
There are a lot of wounderful men in the church. That’s a huge blanket statement. Not fair. I feel bad for any woman or man who is not treated as Christ says we should be treated. Women who are abused, also men, children who are molested by parent (s) judges, police ministers, fireman neighbors, aunts, uncles, friends ,Dr, lawyer……on and on. Who feels safe, loved….real love. Christlike love. Religious or not. He is the example.this is not limited to LDS men only.
Cooking, cleaning and breeding, that's about it.
Straight away, even as a TBM, Bednar came across as a projecting, malignant narcissist, at least to those that tend to be more empathic or even highly sensitive, there is something that is just not right. To the point that if anything shocking ever came out, well it would not be that shocking.
I never worried that much about Bednar though even as a TBM because as an adult in my 30s maybe early 40s, I attended a meeting at the MTC for missionary work with Elder Groberg. When I shook his hand, there was something so dark and hollow, it literally gave me chills... I remember thinking, "I am sure the church is true but something isn't right". I began reflecting on ETB's talks on The Church being under condemnation and never remember said condemnation ever being lifted. As a TBM that meant something to me wondering if and when Christ would come and put The Church in order.
Anyway, when the shelf finally came a crashing, in some ways it was such a relief to just take a step back from all the BS and not have to even think about these jerks any longer or much less pretend to sustain these A-holes. I am telling you something is wrong... and when and if something crazy and shocking comes out, my first thought will be, "I told you so!"
Great video! I was hoping the nickname Darth Bednar would catch on. Cheers.
😂
I don't have personal experience with Bednar but I met Quentin Cook at my stake center years ago. He came to speak to us leaders within the stake. After he was done I went up to meet him and let me tell you, it was not what I expected. He was rude and acted annoyed that I even approached him.
I heard a quote once that said, "If heaven would save a man, He enfolds him with gentleness." Bednar, does not at all exude gentleness.
Sure would like to encounter him someday. Just to see if I have the same view. I would be curious to know how his wife feels.
I think he was called during the time of my faith crisis, so I never heard him as a faithful member. So all the times I have heard him speak I couldn't hear his message over the extreme arrogance and self-aggrandizing tone with which he speaks! It's so off-putting!!
I started to question the authority of LDS church leaders in high school. My seminary teacher told me that I was going to hell because my OCD and Depression. I consoled with my bishop and he didn't really give me an answer to why that was said. After that I felt destroyed, like it was my fault for my mental health issues. I fell into a spiral of self-hate, I began to question: Why are this people in charge and how are they to tell me anything? I hate the idea of authority in religion and how they can abuse followers without consequence. It has been 13+ years since I stopped going to church, I have had the time to piece together my thoughts on religion. I have since found my place in the world and come to understand myself. In hindsight, religion suppressed my creative and enjoyment for life. Now when I listen to religious authorities speak, I can't ignore the manipulative lies woven into their speeches. Religion is poisonous towards personal expression and societal progression. I don't say this out of pure spite (though that is partially true), I want to say my experiences, in hope to help someone that is in a similar situation.
yeah dont take it serious! I have learned it is DUMB... the gospel is true but church and MEN are DUMB!
When you say religion is poisonous, I hope that you only refer to the LDS one. I pray for you to find a true Christian community where you can be wrapped in the pure love of our Savior Jesus Christ.
@@celiamartin2907 same here!! I still belive in Jesus Christ . read his story he was amazing!! he criticized all the Pharisees or leaders at the time. sat with the sinners... broke all the rules... then got Crucified for it!!
I’m sorry you’re losing the other platform. I love your content and it makes me feel not as alone since leaving the church. If you keep posting to RUclips, I’ll keep watching
Elder Bednar came to reorganize out stake presidency. All his talk focused on was "who is in charge" at different levels of the church. It was a terrible focus. and I felt sorry for any members that might have brought investigators to such an uninspiring event. He seethes with narcissism.
At the end of the day, the church isn't much more than one giant hierarchy (of men).
I can't imagine New Testament Jesus ever acting like Bednar or Boomsticks (Jeffrey "musket fire" Holland).
I heard that Bednar went to a missionary conference and noticed a missionary with stickers on the back of his missionary plaque. He pulled it off and snapped it in half and condemned the missionary for the disrespect the missionary was showing to the Savior as his representative.
I heard that story too, except it was Holland instead of Bednar.
As non-Mormon who grew up in Utah, I went to school with many of his type. Boys, especially oldest boys, are often golden children who can do no wrong in their parents' eyes. This treatment goes to their heads and they are certain of their greatness and correctness in all things despite any evidence. If they are lucky to also rise high in the church, of course they're going to be insufferable. Meanwhile, the oldest daughters are often conscripted to be second mom to their younger siblings and don't have much of a social life.
Does anybody else hear the intro music although it is not there anymore? 😊
Definitely miss it and wish it was still there
I do! I miss it SO much!!!
Yes!
i thought my sound had been muted lol
I'll never tell
Mr. Susan Bednar makes me feel bad for Mrs. Susan Bednar.
The whole 1/10 - 9/10 thing is a sentiment that I've heard from leadership throughout my life, especially in church schools. I think it is meant somewhat as a joke, but it creates a toxic culture and is painful for men dealing with abuse.
It’s said to counter the oversized unable to hear anything egos of at least the majority of LDS men and the culture. Abuse happens in all genders, race, income, locations, religions. That doesn’t mean by drawing attention to where it happens most often we don’t acknowledge it isn’t the only place. Hope that helps.
Bednar was appointed to Apostleship when he was unusually young for modern LDS Apostles. That is significant because the most senior Apostle becomes the next President. The people in front of Bednar are approaching 100 years old. Bednar will likely become President within a decade. Then, if he lives as long as his peers, he will be the President for a very long time.
from what he sounds like, that could be an administration that sees a large exodus.
Nightmare scenario!
Well this was the same thing thought about Harold Lee, but that racist croaked fast. Granted that over 50 years ago with different life expectancy times, but one can hope.
6:23 if I heard this as a missionary I would’ve felt so bad. I only made it 3 months in my mission, and I never felt like I was good enough. My mission trauma would probably be much worse if I heard his words.
Poor Susan. Darth Bednar is a tool.
Don’t feel sorry for her. She loves the luxury lifestyle that comes with being his wife. She’s probably a pimo herself but won’t give up the lifestyle because that’s the lifestyle most women strive for
@BrianWaller-qe7gr
A gilded cage is still a cage.
She doesn't stay because of a "luxury lifestyle." She stays because a temple marriage is a prison. Forsaking her husband and marriage in the LDS church is to forsake EVERYTHING, LDS family, friends, community, eternal salvation, everything.
She's trapped in an abusive relationship. That includes financial abuse, because you'd be hard pressed to convince me he gives her even the slightest free reign over their wealth.
I feel very sorry for her.
@@BrianWaller-qe7grwhat is a primo?
Matthew 23.6 They love the seats of honor in the synagogue...
There was a play in Nauvoo made by the Church where they say hell in it as part of a joke. I bet Bednar would have walked out on that as well. Would have loved to have seen him around the "Swearing Apostle" J. Golden Kimball.
President Kimball was the only Apostle I ever heard speak in person. He seemed sincere.
Makes me want to go to something where he is speaking or doing a q&a and ask him if he’s always repenting for treating his wife like shit
For her sake, don’t do that. You don’t know what she may suffer behind closed doors. if it’s this bad in public, it’s probably worse in private.
This is hilarious.. I'd love to hear a whole series on this..
I've heard 3 different apostles speak in person.
I have always been amazed on how uninspired they were..
I left the church 25+ years ago. Occasionally, I'll watch some recent clips on RUclips of general conference and various other recordings, just to remind me of what a wise decision that was. Bednar was one of those I watched and he bored me to tears. It was ironic, I thought, that he talked about the evil of pride! What a narcissist!
You and I left in the same year. I was formally out on Apr. 6th 2000.
@@carolyearsleythat was a good year!
Thankfully never met him in person, but his smug attitude was and is such a turn off. I could never stand Oaks either.
That telling that certain people will be alive for the Second Coming is a great way to accomplish a number of things at once-shows you have the power of prophesy, hints that the time is near but not too near or everyone would be alive, stifles thoughts of leaving the church because if you do, you’ll miss it,
Jesus made the same prediction to his disciples.
There aren't many steps between Bednar and the presidency. Once RMN and Oaks go, it won't be long at all before Uchtdorf is at the top, and Bednar is right behind him. Let's pray for a long and healthy life for Uchtdorf.
Uchtdorf is a pilot and is in good health for his age. Hopefully he will live a long healthy life. Nelson, Oaks and Holland will all go pretty soon and Uchtdorf becomes prophet. After him it’s Bednar. You are going from one of the kindest church leaders to the worst.
Bednar was sustained the same month I resigned my membership; he became one less disingenuous voice to attend to. For that, I am well pleased.
Im posting this before even watching this, but something about this man has always given me the irks. When i saw the notification come up while at work, i made a face that was predominant enough that one of my coworkers asked me what happened and all I got out was "David Bednar is at it again". As a never mo, hes surely confused and i wasnt going to take the time to explain it all to him. He doesnt know who David Bednar is, he doesnt know what the heck happens in this church, and all i could tell him was "I'm so thankful you don't know"
Yeah! Part 2!
So much of mormonism made me feel like I had NO agency! It is such a chauvinistic religion. I left.
I know really. I was accused of and excommunicated for an “affair” that never happened. They allow any nut job to lead wards and stakes. And I guess all the way up the ladder"
Dang I’m sad I missed your submission call. I have the most horrific story from when Bednar visited my mission. It’s still so upsetting to me when I think about what happened. He is an absolutely narcissistic nightmare.
Send it in anyway! I’m sure I can sneak it in during future videos in the series 🫶
"There is nothing you are not worthy of" I love it!
True story. In 2014 I ran into him at the La Paz airport in Bolivia at 5am. It was just him, his wife and some bodyguards.
I had been home from my mission a couple months so I was super excited to meet him. I completely ignored his wife, which in hindsight I feel bad about. But he was nice.
I asked for advice, and he said “don’t try to find the perfect wife, because you’re never going to find her, and if you do, she won’t want you anyways. It’s your job to become the perfect husband”
At the time I thought it was great advice, but looking back, the fact that he said that right in front of his wife is kinda messed up 😂
Wow!
He was partially right. But his narcissism showed because there’s no such thing as a perfect husband either. Nobody is perfect we all have our flaws.
@@BrianWaller-qe7gr yea it wasn’t terrible advice lol but just thinking about Susan in the background like “thanks David”
It’s more the comment of “if you do find her, she won’t want you anyway”
So what you settled for Susan cause the other one rejected you?
Tbf I’m not giving bednar the benefit of the doubt here haha but given all this I hear about him, it is interesting look back at that
@ yeah it was kind of a douche bag comment. Money and fame doesn’t change people just exposes their true identity
@@TheLazyMysticClips 🤣🤣🤣hahaha I got a good laugh from that.
Feels good to be free doesn’t it…😉
he came to visit my country years ago, i was probably a teen at the time. nothing weird happened during his speech, but after the meeting lots of people, including myself, went to the podium to just say hi and shake his hand. and honestly he just seemed like he couldn't care less. i was pretty bummed out about it because of course i was a tbm at the time, and really believed this was a man of god.
Imagine a video like this about Holland or Oaks...
I’m considering making this a series… 🤭
Oaks has always frightened me. Holland never seemed mean. Bear in mind that I'd not seen a whole GC prior to baptism. If I had, I'd likely not have been baptized.
Dallin HOaks!
My Ex-mormon friends tell me that you cannot see how dictatorial these Priesthood holders are until you're out of the org. Smugness and superiority on a level with Gavin Newsom.
Oops. You lost me there, jerrymonk. I especially like Gavin Newsom. But I respect your opinion, of course, and he is definitely NOT universally liked. Also, I can see how becoming a general authority could be disastrous for an insecure guy. Sounds like Bednar is a little wobbly in the self-awareness department. The illusion of being worshipped is irresistible to most of us. Bednar is kind of a classic example of the danger, and political leaders are also susceptible.
@@kathygreen2557 He is shorter than the other GAs. That may make him feel less important compared to them. Not defending him, but just an observation.
@@carolyearsley Oh! That's interesting. Short man syndrome. :) You may be on to something.
Bednar came to a stake conference in WA where I was living at the time. I had never heard of him before, so I had no opinion other than "cool, a GA is here". When he started speaking I was struck by his arrogance, his lack of connecting to the audience, and some of his remarks struck me as very odd, almost bossy like. It's the first time ever I got up and walked out of stake conference, out to the parking lot where I couldn't hear his voice, waiting for him to finish. It was the first time I'd ever felt a coldness emanating from someone who supposedly should be important. I can't stand his demeanor. It was the worst stake conference I've ever attended. I didn't say anything to my friends, I thought it was just me. Until the next year when I heard others say almost exactly what I felt. I'm now an ex-Mo and could care less what he says.
“Could not care less”
Susan needs to escape, run Susan, run.
She seems to be under very deep mind control, like most of the GAs wives.
Remember... free agency doesn't mean that you actually get to choose
He came to my mission and spoke. Our mission president and his wife later told us in a zone conference (I think) that they had a private meal with him and his wife. They asked "What happens when the disobedient missionaries baptise?". His response was "They are condemned to hell." I didn't question it or think much of it as a missionary, but looking back now, that never made sense to me and wasn't an intelligent answer, just very culty and fear mongering. Obedience above all else I guess!
This feels like the creepiest story of all. Yes, no intelligence at all in that response. It sounds like his brain is on a reptilian-like auto pilot. If that was the path to hell, you'd think doctrine would address it. I wonder how many other wackadoodle bonus paths to hell his mind is manufacturing.
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I don't have any experience with Bednar, but I will say that his radical views and mannerisms (even by Mormon standards) are not at all surprising. We are living in a culture where the rift between fundamentalist religion and everone else is getting wider by the minute. There really is no middle ground anymore. Either you stand with religious extremists, or you stand with everyone else. Even people who consider themselves to be quite religious are often blindsided by the level of extremism that some of their peers and colleagues exhibit. That being said, they don't do anything to stop it. Someone like Bednar, who is disliked by most people, will still rise to prominence within the church because people won't speak out against him. Instead, they will leave the religion and go elsewhere while those who support Bednar will adopt his attitude of belittlment, judgement, and strict fundamentalism. I wouldn't be surprised if Bednar is the first of what will eventually be many church leaders like him.
I left and took my descendants with me, instructing them as to the dangers of this horrible sex cult, in case the missionaries knock on their doors
“Susan Bednar’s husband,” “Darth Bednar,” but someone once in a live chat said, “David A. Shit the Bednar,” and that’s been my favorite ha.
😂😂😂 that’s funny
I don't know Mr. . Betnar but when he took free agency away from the LDS community,, that more than broke my shelf. What I see and hear from the guy , I'm not a fan. He's a very controlling, hierarchy ( And I would not be shocked at all if he treated his wife really bad at home when he's not in public) and she lives in a very controlling environment. Again just my opinion.... What I was thinking today is why in the world would they allow president monson who had dementia at least 5 years before he passed,, remain as president of the church. I think there were a few things during his reign he was not able to have an opinion on that he or President should have. At least one that talks to God. Why would the Mormon church leaders not perceive or receive Revelation about their future say 20 years ago? Winter garden prepared them for this to change a few things in their doctrine and their ways to protect their gospel? Yes if the church was true God would have done this. There would have been plenty of foresight with the leaders. Just think about it. They were too comfortable, traveling getting their bills paid not having to pay tithing enjoying life laid-back and not listening. September 6 and when they came out with the book saints. They should have told the truth. After reading a few books about the history of the church I started reading the first book The saints. I know that more than likely the whole thing was gaslight. The saints series The books are all gaslight. Just like the history of the church.
Have you seen the cartoon literature that is made for young children on polygamy?? They had gone from full denial to there was Fanny.. to Polygamy for Kids to groom them into sexual situations
My boyfriend lives in Oakland and I lived with him for two years. I find it so bizarre that he is from there. Everyone there is so nice and chill. Why is he the way he is?? I don't get it
I don't know Bednar at all, but have seen him at Church Conferences and other affairs pertaining to the church. He seems like he's in love with his calling, thus, with himself . I was surprised see that he is an Apostle of the LDS Church. It didn't take long to not like him.
Perfect description of a narcissist.
I don’t know… his Gen Conf Talk about making pickles 🥒 changed my life forever 😂
The parable
of the pickle! 🥒😂😅😂
I met an old neighbor of his who said that he was one of the meanest men, totally dis respectful and not even being close to being humble. Ironically he said very nice things about his wife but he said something didn’t seem right about his marriage based on how his wife acted. I was a Temple worker at the time and short of shrugged all of this off but since then I have heard the same thing from others. Not know what to say now as an active Mormon who believes these men should be living by a higher standard.
The age of the Apostles is long past. Claiming Apostles exposed LDS as a cult
I’m almost 40 years exmo. Holy cow. This guy sounds like a true narcissist.
Met him once, when president at Ricks, he was very hollow, and had a big wall up that was very sad to see
He think he’s a big shot because he wasn’t called from the 70s lol.
Thanks!
Thank you for doing these videos both here and tik tok
The Bednars leaving a musical because of phrases like "Good God" or words like "hell" is HILARIOUS to me. What a perfect example of CLOSE-MINDEDNESS!
Even just his demeanour in videos of him show that he's probably the most arrogant of all the apostles.
I remember when I was going through my faith crisis, Bednar came to my hometown. Naturally I attended. I hoped to get some guidance or a spiritual experience. It may have been almost exclusively a Q&A. If the Church were real and there was an apostle somewhere to answer questions, that would be a great opportunity to give specific, inspired guidance to God's children, right? Instead, many of his answers were in the vein of "Read your scriptures and pray, silly; you don't need to ask me that and you should know better" even though people were being somewhat vulnerable in a room of over 500 people, probably. It was one of many nails in the coffin.
When I was a teen I shook hands with L. Tom Perry, who was at my ward unannounced for some reason. I was there to prepare the sacrament and not many were there, or hadn't noticed him yet, so I briefly had him to myself. He seemed genuine and friendly.
As far as cussing in 1856--I saw it once, and don't remember any swear words. Maybe the actors were more polite. It doesn't bother me that he walked out if he was expecting better, as one would, since it's a play written by members.
Love your videos on RUclips and TikTok. ❤
David Bednar, born 3rd month 22nd day of Hebrew calendar (Sivan 22 is 3.22 on Hebrew calendar) his dad was born 3.10 on Julian calendar and his mom died its reverse 10.3… his dad was born 6.21 on hebrew calendar and died its reverse 1.26 on Gregorian calendar… his whole family was ritually murdered. Bednar is the skull and bones proohet and his fascination with number 322 is over the top
On my mission, he visited and did a Q&A with the missionaries. After a few questions, he told everyone that they were asking the wrong questions. He was so condescending to the whole mission. I was such a TBM at the time, that I thought that I was in the wrong for being curious about the "wrong" things.
My last contact with Bednar was at Rose Bowl 1.1 2010… he sat to my right in stadium for about an hour… prior to that i ran into Bednar at BYU Hawaii visitor center when they had the Dead Sea scroll display.. last physical contact with Bednar was in cruise ship Norweigian Pearl 17May2012 off coast of Canada headed to 8n land passage of Alaska,, he can’t erase himself from the manifests,,,
I’ve gotta ask, was HE in a suit and tie for all that, if you say no, I will be so disappointed 😂😂😂😂😂
@@China-Clay 7.16 2005 in Medford temple he had temple cloths with black apron… and a mustache.
I'm just curious as to what he was doing at the Rose Bowl?
3 of my grandparents were told in their patriarchal blessing they would live to see the second coming
Okay, so I don’t support the author anymore, but I am so heavily reminded of the Harry Potter books. Especially with the reading assignments, this man is practically professor Lockheart’s uglier twin! 😂
Lmao you know what’s so funny, I had the same thought 😅
@ im so glad I wasn’t the only one. He has all of the arrogance, self-importance, at this point infamy, and lack of empathy without any of the charisma and charm.
Omg 5:15..that poor woman! I hope she meets someone more loving.
10:10 - how much do you want to bet he turned this story into a talk about how he and Susan were the only ones righteous/brave/obedient enough to leave?
Grant Palmer [R.I.P] stated : "Mormonism needs a new Jesus".
Fully agree!. I do not believe the real Jesus to have anything to do with the Mormon church based on the crap quality of G.A's appointed by Mormongod.
That's what happens when a normal man gets to much power!
One of the first cracks in my testimony was wondering if the General Authorities actually had a direct hotline to God.
HE WALKED OUT OF 1776!? LOOOOOOOOSER! 1776 is the shit. I’m still convinced that’s how it really went down, with everyone just purposely trying to make John Adams mad.
Also, this is completely off him as a subject but at 7:11 you mention patriarchal blessings. I still have mine, and it. is. wild. I mean like, storybook/movie wild. Though there’s a funny bit in it where it says I would be given the gift of tongues, and will be amazed at the things that I say.
Which, honestly, having been an exmo since 2009, is strikingly true. Because I am amazed that I went from desperately needing some faith changing thing when I was a practicing Mormon to now feeling I never needed any of that, and just needed Alan Watts lectures 🤣
I’m not sure where it was, it might be on Nemo’s channel but for part 2 you HAVE to talk about that REALLY creepy video of bednar at a face to face or something and manhandling a 10 year old boy as an object lesson for “sin keeping you from returning to the right path” or some bull. It’s really concerning
At the very least it was emotional abuse of a minor in a public place
Thank you so much for all your insights and for sharing so much of yourself.
How do I access the video about Bednar loosing his s#””=t?
You tell somebody they are an Apostle, what do you expect?
He reinforces my suspicions about what people with a Religious Spirit in them look and act like.
And he looks like he is miserable and sick.
Not surprised he acted like that. One of his kids lived in my mission. He'd visit around Christmas time and was known to be little elders. He always has that gross look when he meets local members, like there dirty or something.
I can’t get enough of Bednar being an ass hole stories.
Hell yeah, you’re in the right place 😁💕
I've kind of felt wary of him from the moment I first saw him speak. I guess I was right
Good video. I left the church decades ago. He seems like a total tool.
I always thought he was a chill guy but nope it's the opposite lol, he really thinks he's something else eh, can't wait for part 2.
5:08 oh god, girl please divorce him....you're too good for him.
The patriarchal blessing thing seems to be a joke now that im older. It says the generic crap about having a spouse, kids, going on a mission etc. Here i am in my 40s: single, childless and never went on a mission and my mom whos a devoted mormon was like well, youll have a family in the " next life". Whatever. Also, i went to my bishop about my sexual abuse and ask for possible counseling. He denied my request and then he told me it wasnt my fault but then told me to read the scriptures, pay my tithing and read some article from the ensign about being a subservient wife..like wtf did that even have to do with my situation? Then expected me to follow up with him in a few weeks. I know this is not about Bednar but still. I was already having doubts in the church and having a shitty bishop does not help. I know they are not psychologists but still. Showing some empathy would be helpful and would make people feel more welcome into a church.
They don't commune with God they are false prophets and apostles
When Bednar comes in, the Spirit goes out. Such coldness and emptiness in his eyes.
Your Bednar video is a hit! It seems that everyone recognizes the monster for what it is!
You have made a difference in my life! I’ve met you in person, you’ve wonderful- I’m fully transgender woman and you’re great with that
Hi! I met David A. Bednar in Riga 10+ years ago. He was there with some other prominent elders like Ronald A. Rasband (not an apostle then yet) and Gerald Causse. I played the piano for the meeting. After the event apostle Bednar came up to me and shook my hand and said thanks for playing the piano. I felt honoured for such a notice, because my role was quite minor, accompanying hymns sang by the congregation. Also I remember he shook hands with everybody who wanted to meet him after the event. So from my experience there was nothing negative. He accepted questions from the audience, but before that he did indeed lay out a framework for those questions, that people would not ask just anything, that I remember!
It's good to get a more complete picture of the man. Thanks.
7:43 Long cold fingers, hollow eyes, off-putting disposition. Is he... Nosferatu?
No, daylight doesn’t kill him and he is too short but he is as loathsome, slimy, mean & controlling as the old bloodsucker
He sounds like the donnie trump of LDS.
Good point. However, I think Joseph Smith has already claimed that title.
Makes me want to go to something where he is speaking or doing a q&a and ask him if he’s always repenting for treating his wife like shit. I would tell him we all notice and hope for her sake that he is humbled and repents.