The initial guitarist on "Red Baron" was Tommy Bolin, he died he was only 25, played with Billy Cobham, replaced Ritchie Blackmore in Deep Purple, few other projects all in a matter of a couple of years only. Check out his few solo work as well. Guthrie's work with Steven Wilson is also outstanding.
Yes of course , Tommy Bolin a natural , playing beyond his years , only 22 when the album was recorded! Couldn't read music , but produced sounds out the guitar even today is astonishing! It's not just technique , Tommy Bolin was something else, that was Billy Cobham insight into asking him and Lee Sklar to play on the album . Check out Lee Sklar you tube channel to see his story of making the album . Guthrie Govan is an amazing player , what a talent
I've listened to Gershwin's 'Summertime' and Cobham's 'Red Baron' (composed nearly 40 years apart) probably about fifty times each. That GG brings the Summertime melody into his solo at 4:27 amazes me every time I hear this wild thrilling version. Who would have thought they could be melodically linked? Really inventive, GG!
No one like Guthrie... but some segments starting at 4:27 are Jeff Beck-like... VERY reminiscent in fact... even his tone. Guthrie no doubt enjoyed Jeff's playing and it influenced him in some ways. If not, then it's one incredible coincidence. Keep playing and amazing, Mr. Govan, and R.I.P., Mr. Beck... some of us look forward to hearing you again at some point, somewhere in eternity!
I've listened to this 2/3 times a day, every day since I found this. Those two notes he plays at the start of those bars (BEE-boow) is so infectious, and the whole rhythm section is so tight. Plus those keys layered underneath the guitar oooo this just gets me going the way Buckethead did when I first found him.
Wow, cover me bad! Loved this track off the Spectrum album and wore out the grooves long before anyone I knew had heard of fusion. The original can never be topped - particularly Billy's deep deep pocket - but oh my... the interpretations of "Red Baron" are so very interesting and GOOD! The fast section starting about 5:12 seems to me a tribute to the moog playing of Jan Hammer, another great technical player with a gorgeous ear for lead playing. This rendition makes me smile!
Hat tip DR for the Jan Hammer reference; too many only know of him from the Miami Vice theme and have no clue about Mahavishnu Orchestra or his work with Jeff Beck
I still have the album with grooves in it also lol! 😂 I remember standing out in the high street having just bought the album from the record store in Blackpool Dickson Road Lancashire, in 1974 or 75 thanks to the Old Grey Whistle Test music programme!
I am so ready for a Billy Cobham tour with Guthrie Govan. Or maybe have Mr. Govan do a tour as guest-guitarist with Corea & Return To Forever. I wanna' see Guthrie playing with the top US jazz musicians. The time is right!! Go Guthrie Govan!!!!
Love Cobham. Love Bolin. Love Quadrant 4. Love the Red Baron. This is skull peeling. So funky it leaves welts and the shred will cut you. I hope they let Guthrie visit his home planet once in awhile.
+Antoine Duez (Professor Z) Summertime is actually a jazz standard =) Many people have played it from Ella Fitzgerald to, as you said, Janis. Check it out.
Great rendition brilliant. I was face to face with Tommy Bolin at Winterland a few months before he died. He is the reason I play but that night he was sick and played poorly. I was 3 feet from Billy C at guitar showcase in Campbell Ca at a drum clinic. Wow he was powerful and that was around 1980.
@@naufrago7676 I love Paul Gilbert he's killer but I've always felt like he doesn't have the same level of vocabulary and phrasing that the other guys you mentioned have, I'd personally say he's not on the other guys' level. I think it's the fact that almost everything he plays is alternate picking based, it's always that same style of 16th note 3 note per string patterns with him. The other's have all had decent backgrounds in Jazz I feel like that's maybe something to do with why their phrasing and note choices sound so much less predictable and repetitive. Just my ears though, still think Paul's awesome
Really nice version!! There's a lot of Jeff in his theme part expression and tone, maybe he's using the tremolo in the same way too. Who was the bass player? Really good bass tone!
Does anyone know where this is from ? I'm guessing that this is a live recording from somewhere, and if there's audio i bet there's a video, too. Id love to see him playing this; shit got so much feeling and touch, HOT DAMN. Guthrie nailed this one 11/10. Cant get enough of this shit and been listening to this almost daily for the past year or so, and everytime hear it, i get goosebumps
Great word, adds D and you got it, and not only is he the master of shredding but he also retains character, style and emotion which alot if shredders lose, I truest believe he is the best in the world atm
check out The Aristocrats. Him, Bryan Beller and Marco Minnemann. Legit one of the best bands out there for fusion-y/jazz rock. Those three have a chemistry on stage that I've never seen before. They're almost the perfect trio.
From what Guthrie said in a recent interview, his Suhr "signature" was just a ready-made model that Suhr wanted to slap Guthrie's name onto. Charvel on the other hand was willing to build a whole new guitar from the ground up for him.
What is there to mourn about a personal choice made by the one playing the instrument? We all have our personal preferences...with all due respect to the Suhr aficionados.
It's not really his change of guitars, but the amp that bothers me more. I really liked his previous tone actually. Same with Richie Kotzen, his tone was amazing with Cornford.
it doesnt sound like it. he doesnt bend strings on fretless guitars (he still "bends" notes up and down, just not the string physically). i think this was on the suhr website originally and they didntmake fretless guitars for guthrie.
Agreed, Bill. Meant no disrespect here. A fine tribute. Although I must partly disagree with your previous comment about TB "but too fu to play at a gig"....saw TB in America w/ Deep Purple followed by a few solo gigs and he was solid (1976) with a stellar band lineup(s). I am not discounting his addictions which did lead to his under performing at times and untimely death. Regardless, your comment here is well taken. We appreciate and acknowledge talent.
I'm confused, the first time you commented on this video was 3 years ago saying this is insane. Then a year later, you're talking down on Guthrie as though you can play better? Lmfao dude, Guthrie is the LEAST "stiff upper lip" of all the shredders I've ever seen
He is so good you can't even see his hands moving
😂😂😂
Extra
Lmaooo
Thankyou mate you knew we'd be missing out on a great deal if you hadn't posted it
The initial guitarist on "Red Baron" was Tommy Bolin, he died he was only 25, played with Billy Cobham, replaced Ritchie Blackmore in Deep Purple, few other projects all in a matter of a couple of years only. Check out his few solo work as well. Guthrie's work with Steven Wilson is also outstanding.
…and he plays beautifully on this one, also……
I mean Tommy (and Guthrie too, of course)
Yes of course , Tommy Bolin a natural , playing beyond his years , only 22 when the album was recorded! Couldn't read music , but produced sounds out the guitar even today is astonishing! It's not just technique , Tommy Bolin was something else, that was Billy Cobham insight into asking him and Lee Sklar to play on the album . Check out Lee Sklar you tube channel to see his story of making the album . Guthrie Govan is an amazing player , what a talent
I've listened to Gershwin's 'Summertime' and Cobham's 'Red Baron' (composed nearly 40 years apart) probably about fifty times each. That GG brings the Summertime melody into his solo at 4:27 amazes me every time I hear this wild thrilling version. Who would have thought they could be melodically linked? Really inventive, GG!
No one like Guthrie... but some segments starting at 4:27 are Jeff Beck-like... VERY reminiscent in fact... even his tone. Guthrie no doubt enjoyed Jeff's playing and it influenced him in some ways. If not, then it's one incredible coincidence.
Keep playing and amazing, Mr. Govan, and R.I.P., Mr. Beck... some of us look forward to hearing you again at some point, somewhere in eternity!
I've listened to this 2/3 times a day, every day since I found this. Those two notes he plays at the start of those bars (BEE-boow) is so infectious, and the whole rhythm section is so tight. Plus those keys layered underneath the guitar oooo this just gets me going the way Buckethead did when I first found him.
Do you listen to Billy Cobham's version? Fire.... I like Guthrie, too!
SAME BOAT
Legitimately @ 3:45 just the way Guthrie comes in is so unique and quirky his style is truly his own. Absolute Master!
Wow, cover me bad! Loved this track off the Spectrum album and wore out the grooves long before anyone I knew had heard of fusion. The original can never be topped - particularly Billy's deep deep pocket - but oh my... the interpretations of "Red Baron" are so very interesting and GOOD! The fast section starting about 5:12 seems to me a tribute to the moog playing of Jan Hammer, another great technical player with a gorgeous ear for lead playing. This rendition makes me smile!
Hat tip DR for the Jan Hammer reference; too many only know of him from the Miami Vice theme and have no clue about Mahavishnu Orchestra or his work with Jeff Beck
He actually played a rhodes through a ring mod for these "synth" sounds on red baron.
I still have the album with grooves in it also lol! 😂 I remember standing out in the high street having just bought the album from the record store in Blackpool Dickson Road Lancashire, in 1974 or 75 thanks to the Old Grey Whistle Test music programme!
@@RobotChampionSCBoomer here. I had a 1975 vinyl from Jan Hammer: "The first seven days". Awesome.
I am so ready for a Billy Cobham tour with Guthrie Govan.
Or maybe have Mr. Govan do a tour as guest-guitarist with Corea & Return To Forever.
I wanna' see Guthrie playing with the top US jazz musicians. The time is right!!
Go Guthrie Govan!!!!
WOOOOOW!!!! And the bassist is AMAZING!!!! Great Band...
That solo is probably the best thing I’ve ever heard come out of a guitar , it’s not even of this world. Wow
San Francisco January 2011. The first solo is by Peter Fuji. I was there and it was awesome.
Anything he plays is simply amazing.
Love Cobham. Love Bolin. Love Quadrant 4. Love the Red Baron.
This is skull peeling. So funky it leaves welts and the shred will cut you.
I hope they let Guthrie visit his home planet once in awhile.
Your quip about Guthrie's home planet deserves so much more than a mere thumbs-up. Thanks for a genuine belly-laugh!!
what a joy to listen to Guthrie play!
I bought Spectrum as a kid, so great to hear a refreshing new version. Guthrie is just such a stunning player. Is there anything this fella cant do.
NO.
Nope!
Anyone else notice hime quote "Summertime" around 4:30?
+Walker Masuda of Janis Joplin ? I don't find this
+Walker Masuda Yes, he mentions it around 2 min too ahah
Nice
+Antoine Duez (Professor Z) Summertime is actually a jazz standard =) Many people have played it from Ella Fitzgerald to, as you said, Janis. Check it out.
Sérgio Pinto janis from accounting?!! lol
Hell yes, and I think he does it due to fluent jazz chops, very much in the vein of Jeff Beck.
man Guthrie's straight on his game on this track!
I even hear Kotzeny style in some parts, especially 5:25 dude is insanely good
Great rendition brilliant. I was face to face with Tommy Bolin at Winterland a few months before he died. He is the reason I play but that night he was sick and played poorly. I was 3 feet from Billy C at guitar showcase in Campbell Ca at a drum clinic. Wow he was powerful and that was around 1980.
Nice one Guthrie! John Tropea will love this
Jeff beck vibes in there❤
Never noticed before really but in this-mostly the head- how much of a Jeff Beck influence G G has going there.
Led boots!
Guthrie's solo here is one of the most powerful musical statements I've ever heard.
Thank you for sharing this!
Thanks for sharing, awesome !
Amazing Cover! Dude went IN!
thanks for add this one!
Amazing job! It takes skill to cover another master musician, and Guthrie definitely did do an outstanding job here! Love it!
I think the lick at 5:16 sounds inspired by Jan Hammer's solo off of the studio version of Red Baron
Guthrie is the top,top man atm.Splitting hairs between him and Buckethead. Supreme talents☘
For me, Guthrie, Matteo Mancuso, Paul Gilbert, Nick Johnston and Buckethead. Honorable mentions: Tom Quayle and Steve Morse
@@naufrago7676 Check out a guy called Fernando Miyata,think you'll be impressed ☘
@@naufrago7676 And Alex Hutchings ftm☘
@@naufrago7676 I love Paul Gilbert he's killer but I've always felt like he doesn't have the same level of vocabulary and phrasing that the other guys you mentioned have, I'd personally say he's not on the other guys' level. I think it's the fact that almost everything he plays is alternate picking based, it's always that same style of 16th note 3 note per string patterns with him. The other's have all had decent backgrounds in Jazz I feel like that's maybe something to do with why their phrasing and note choices sound so much less predictable and repetitive. Just my ears though, still think Paul's awesome
Don't like the guys playing.
Take away all the tapping, whammy bars and effects units and what have you got?
The fellowship , they always make the classic tunes better and better.........
Billy Cobham!!!!! couldnt stop to watch their live performance.
Can’t stop playing
Awesome solo,guthrieeeeeeeee.........
He can play it all..
Love hearing this near the tempo of the '76 Montreux version. Sweet. Heard other versions and they feel a little 'rushed' to me.
He did it justice!
Gurtihrue plays Tommy Bolin.
This is insane. I drive my Challenger like Kowalski.
Thanks for sharing.
Really nice version!! There's a lot of Jeff in his theme part expression and tone, maybe he's using the tremolo in the same way too. Who was the bass player? Really good bass tone!
Red baron with Summer time...master piece!
The band Deszon Clairborne Dr. Joel Smith Bs. Peter FUjii Gt...... it was nice to meet Mr.Govan
Is it really you, the real Peter Fujii??
Lorenzo Siri Yes it's the real me....haha lefuj
Lorenzo Siri Check out my RUclips channel hope your good ☮️💔....Le
@@lefujyou Wooow, I'm honored that you're talking right to me!! Absolutely, I'll check it! I hope you're good too 😎
Summertime at the start of guthries solo! incredible
That bass 6:58
Karthik Hari simple pentatonic run bit still so sick
Does anyone know where this is from ? I'm guessing that this is a live recording from somewhere, and if there's audio i bet there's a video, too. Id love to see him playing this; shit got so much feeling and touch, HOT DAMN. Guthrie nailed this one 11/10. Cant get enough of this shit and been listening to this almost daily for the past year or so, and everytime hear it, i get goosebumps
He’s the master of ‘Shrelody’ 😉 (is that a thing yet or have I just invented the word?🤔)
Guthrie and Herring both. That's why they're my favorite guitarists.
Great word, adds D and you got it, and not only is he the master of shredding but he also retains character, style and emotion which alot if shredders lose, I truest believe he is the best in the world atm
5:25 Just amazing! lick so well placed.
Qué buena versión , es uno de mis temas favoritos de Cobham
This song is the best high
Great piece !
So tasty! Thanks for sharing man :)
fantàstic!!!
Best,most knowledgeable comment yet.
Lucky you man
Totally awesome!
guthrie shoud have a funk,jazz,groove band project
The Fellowship is exactly that
check out The Aristocrats. Him, Bryan Beller and Marco Minnemann. Legit one of the best bands out there for fusion-y/jazz rock. Those three have a chemistry on stage that I've never seen before. They're almost the perfect trio.
He does, The Aristocrats
Sounds similar to Scott Henderson's technicality
SUPER !!!👍👍👍👍👍
Groove
Govan on Bolin :)
THX!!!
I simple guy, see Guthrie, click Guthrie
Awesome. When was this?
OMG!
Let me say that again...
OMG!
you can say that again!
6:19 Jesus
O WOW
Unico, innovador, melódico, armónico, me gustaría mas emotivo y creativo seria novedoso, adictivo y grandioso
Mrinding dengarnya 😄
Straight up shedder!
ce mec peut tout jouer !
5:14 - 5:30 fuck yeah
Boy do I hear Jeff Beck in some of his sounds and style on this song. Of course GG is his own virtuosity.
Tastiest. Shit. Ever.
Anyone else mourn his move from Suhr to Charvel?
+dwftube it was on the suhr website so i think it's his suhr
+Jordan Watkins God no, his Charvel sounds much smoother than this.
From what Guthrie said in a recent interview, his Suhr "signature" was just a ready-made model that Suhr wanted to slap Guthrie's name onto. Charvel on the other hand was willing to build a whole new guitar from the ground up for him.
What is there to mourn about a personal choice made by the one playing the instrument? We all have our personal preferences...with all due respect to the Suhr aficionados.
It's not really his change of guitars, but the amp that bothers me more. I really liked his previous tone actually. Same with Richie Kotzen, his tone was amazing with Cornford.
5:42
basically the dumbledore of guitar
Very Jeff Beckish!
Geilo...
Genial!!!
Tommy Bolin is still the gold standard.
Gooood,very gooood!
hermoso
Bolin beats everyone!
SECOND THAT.
Loved Tommy. Saw him live, great studio musician, but too fucked up to play at a gig. Sad.
Is this with the Erotic Cakes band?
GregsBassWorld I think it's with his band, The Fellowship. I'm not sure about the drummer, but his brother Seth plays in the band, and on the EC album
+TheSkipjack95 his brother is a kick ass bass player,..I was listening to erotic cakes. ...great playing,...must run in the family,...
The band on this track consisted of local musicians from the Bay area.
nice
level 20 for sure
I guess Guthrie decided to channel his "Inner Jeff Beck" !!! 😊🎸
Totally
I’m hearing much Beck influence
Great great…..but the Cobham thing with his incredible Band was….the Killer….😉👏👏👏👏
7:47 gandalf
This is like trival tech
Jeff Beck's sound ideas taken to a new level.
Any idea who the other guitarist playing here is?
Could Be dave Kilminster
Peter Fujii. It was announced in another track from the same set.
Guthrie Govan
This sounds like Govan and Vai to me?
@@kmgood329 not to me, when they're on stage, Vai cuts him off lmao
I really pity the people who havent discovered Guthrie yet
I'm a little disappointed with the drums! Isn't it a cobham tune?
LOL
is guthrie playing a fretless? vigier or something?
definitely
it doesnt sound like it. he doesnt bend strings on fretless guitars (he still "bends" notes up and down, just not the string physically).
i think this was on the suhr website originally and they didntmake fretless guitars for guthrie.
if you're asking about the first solo, I'm not sure what guitar that is, but it's not guthrie playing
"is guthrie playing a fretless?"
No. But he uses the whammy a lot.
la vache wtf
Nice try. Miles beyond Bolin
Y’all can cover tis all y’all want. Improvement upon cannot be realized. Without contempt, just saying. Nasty tho…
white.
Late Tommy Bolin beats this stiff upper lip guy 10-1. One point for trying. Perioid.
TOTALLY.
Tommy was great, but he died 45 years ago. This is an amazing tribute to someone Guthrie was influenced by. Ive seen both, well done.
Agreed, Bill. Meant no disrespect here. A fine tribute. Although I must partly disagree with your previous comment about TB "but too fu to play at a gig"....saw TB in America w/ Deep Purple followed by a few solo gigs and he was solid (1976) with a stellar band lineup(s). I am not discounting his addictions which did lead to his under performing at times and untimely death. Regardless, your comment here is well taken. We appreciate and acknowledge talent.
Tommy!
I'm confused, the first time you commented on this video was 3 years ago saying this is insane. Then a year later, you're talking down on Guthrie as though you can play better? Lmfao dude, Guthrie is the LEAST "stiff upper lip" of all the shredders I've ever seen