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Maruti हो या Hyundai - ऐसी Perfect Family CAR नहीं बनाई - 8.4 लाख से शुरू DCA
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Simple roads per b 160 per jo confidence ye car deti hai vo koi or car nahi deti i proud i am owner of altroz
Bhai itna tez na chalaya karo.
Haanjee
Stability sahee hai
Lekin 100 ke oopar mat jayaa karo
Ha yaar kabhi Punto aur polo chalaya he ya garibi me din nikal diya 🤣🤣🤣
@@swapy450 kaun si bohot mehengi cars hai ye.
@@rajeshv6274 bilkul bhai
Being an Altroz XZ owner (manual), I'm very much satisfied with this car...😊
Any ground clearance problem?
@@sarangnalguntwar3332 Abhi tak to kabhi bhi niche se nahi lagi. Kharab raste se thoda slow nikalna padta hai.
@@sarangnalguntwar3332 not at all...
Same i also own XZ +I turbo and I am very much satisfied really Tata do great job 👍
@@SAURABHKUMAR-rw1hs any turbo lag bro
Tata should introduce this gearbox in Nexon both petrol and diesel... Then it will be a benchmark in the segment
Exactly.... jaldi laao tata
Please update if you have any info on this
I’m sure a lot of customers are waiting. In sub 4 segment there are no cars available with 5 star safety and a proper automatic.
@@DDSravi tata altroz manuals ya dca
DCT with Diesel is less used combination i think. From what i saw, Most of the Diesel automatics in Indian cars are either Torque converter based or normal AMT/AGS. But using DCT/ Torque Converter increases cost because they are expensive
It's slow af 0 to 100 takes 18+ sec
Day by day TATA is improving it quality in their vehicles .Good job,I salute to Tata,
Engines abi v shi nhi h
@@SinghMS143 pehle se bohot improve hua hai. Bina kuch pata boa mat kr
@@Robert-sb8ew bhai pehla no. Tou aap baat krna sikh lo,, dusra no. Mai khud tata ki gadiya bhut pasand krta hu,, meri family mai taigo 2017 model hai, you muje achi trh pta hai,,
Par tata ne dealer staff aur service ko bhi dhiyan dena chahiye
@@SinghMS143 Bs6 2phase wala video dekho sanskari sumit ka kl wala
I am Altroz iTurbo (xz) owner . Very much satisfied with my Car. In 4 months I have driven around 8k kms and whatever Ravi is saying about stability, response in potholes , steering control everything is true !!. Also no any ground clearance issue faced after driving in village area. At last , getting 17-19 avg on highways (and somewhat city Traffic included). Best decision till now.
I have xe plus manual
Do ur variant have interior plastic noise issue?
My door handles make scratchy noise while driving
And engine noise inside the cabin?
@@rajeshv6274Sir have you done any aftermarket modification..?
@@rajeshv6274 every Altroz owner has this thing in common. SC has not inserted screw there and if you check , there is option to to that . I think problem will get resolved. You can go for after market fitment for that . I would suggest to check with service centre and mention that in feedback
@@manishukaskar6560 thnx sir
@@devanshgupta4107 no sir
Feels good when you give honest review of Tata. 4 years back I bought Tiago after watching your videos ,it was one of my best decisions ever 💯
How much Tiago cost you of which varient? Also is it a good car in that price range??
Sabse fair aur real review yaha milte he ❤️DDS
Whenever he says "bhaisaab" we get the emotions behind 😃
Yes
It is only to be felt
I have taken 90 to 100 degree turns in 70 plus speed in top gear with zero body roll
I am Altroz DCA owner and drive in Mumbai. Everything he said is completely spot on with comfort, mileage and highway stability. The DCA is butter smooth, cannot feel the gear changes once engine warms up, unlike AMT in this range. Only wishlist items are 6 airbags and ventilated seats. iTurbo would be nice, but even 1.2 NA engine is good enough with this gearbox.
Does this car has hill assist
@@vimalchandran4372 nope
@@atozedzerotonine is stop and start on hills difficult will car roll backward
@@vimalchandran4372 I've not faced any problems yet as the creep function keeps car stable on light slopes. On steep slope, use handbrake and give light accelerator, then remove handbrake like in manual transmission.
@Nik Chitalia only 500 kms and that too in Mumbai? Bhai 14 is good mileage then, assuming driving with AC on
I own Altroz iturbo...love the punch & driving dynamics!!!
Guys, those who are concerned about ground clearance please note wheel base length also matters. If you notice then you will find Tata car's wheelbase length is shorter than other cars in the same segment which is why Tata car's do not touch the breaker easily. However approch angle is slightly low for premium hatchback cars like Altorz which gives it additional stability at high speed
Correct but the bumper is made up of good solid metal so it doesn't come out due to collision with breaker.
Correct
@@y_adityamahajan bumpers are made of plastic pls do proper research
@@rex77x Thanks for correction mate!
@@IndianStockMarketTrader jo bhi ho bhai uski quality acchi hai..
I drove Altroz petrol manual from Bhubaneswar to Bangalore and back with family. The drive was very good. Space and comfort is best in this segment. Average Mileage i got was 19-20kmpl
Bumper tutaa? Itne kmm ground clearance m
I own Altroz DCA and whatever Ravi bhai said its all facts about the car. He is not exaggerating anything.
Average 14-15 kmpl in city.
A pillar visibility issue , got to be carefull at turns and signals.
I got 19.8 on MID driving on highway without AC.
No jerks whatsoeverin city or hills.
I went for hill rides for 5km distance , car never gave any jerks.
The stabilitu as Ravi bhai said is true on the curves and highways.
Yup, headlights are decent in night.
I am yet to try the manual gear change.
AC works nice, you get chills for extended use.
Music system is awasome , all my family has lot of praise for the car.
How do you manage with rolling back on steep roads?
Maine apni DCA Mein 23 in MID liya hu bhai with AC on highways 🙃
@@pijushasinha9491 saui hai.. kithni speed range maintain ki thi highway par ?
@@vahed11 60 speed mein rakha tha initially for 30 mins, to check kitna de sakti hai, 26 diya tha, par maza nahi aa raha tha, so increased my speed to 80, and it gave me 23, in cruise mode for 3 hour constant on samruddhi expressway
Hi vahed. Yaar nexon amt theek rahegi ya altroz dca? Halke panje se chalata hu main, zyada nahi bhagaata.
3cylinder can be compromised fr safety ... service issue has to be improved along with dealership and sales person behaviour for us to feel happy while buying ..
Thank you Ravi bhai for such a detailed video. I own XZ+ dark edition NA Petrol and as you correctly said, so easy to drive in city and so fantastic to drive on highways. A proud owner of an Indian car that is safest and smartest in hatchback segment.🙂
I bought the Altroz inspite of knowing that its ground clearance is very low. But, to be very honest i do not know how it never touches any breakers or anywhere in the rough patches. I have driven this car on the worst roads possible. If driven carefully, it is an excellent vehicle. ❤️
High stability is Oh boy Oh boy just chumma! ❤️
Only one big complaint i have is sala iska rear bahut ganda hota hai. No idea why. Maybe due to the design.
Not only GC but wheelbase length also matters. If you notice , in comparison to other cars in segment tata car's wheelbase is shorter which is why tata car's do not touch the breakers easily
Yes i took test drive for around 20 kms in roads with pot holes, many speed breakers and also on highway. I didnt feel any problem pertaining to gc. I think wheel base along with suspension setup prevents it from touching the ground.
Dust magnet hai saab yeh
Sir, most of the youtubers never touch the "AC performance" aspect of cars. Although the AC is non essential on hills, but still your opinion regarding the AC would be appreciated very much.
Tata cars have the best AC
AC is fine sir
Bhai aap tata ki unnecassory itna badiya btate ho....aapke wajah se mene tata ki nexon li but 6 month ke ander hi mujhe tractor ki feeling aa rahi h.gaadi ka har purja pinjar ho gya lagta h
ye bss tata tata krta rehta hai
Ravi ji ka transformation ✅
Camera upgrade...
Khub tarakki
Racer edition with DCA aa jaye to alag hi level ki car ban jayegi Altroz...
So true✌️
Tata updated their 1.2 engine for BS6 phase 2 ♥️♥️
Yes they have updated
Great Video Bro. I just wanna ask one thing....
In Dec 2022, 48th GST council had decided TAX for Cars with 3 conditions - Ground Clearance above 170mm , engine above 1500CC and length more than 4mt will only be considered as proper SUV and will have higher TAX slabs of 50% (GST + Cess), but none of Auto manufacturers have reduced the tax slabs for Brezza, Nexon segment cars.
Can you please tell us when will new tax slabs be applicable ???
Would be great to know how the older cars are holding up after 100000+ KMS. I personally have difficulty on trusting TATA & Mahindra due to the past experiences on reliability and longevity!
Even our last Scorpio made us cry, when it came to breaking down and fixing! At the end we just gave it up!
Mostly our driving is Hilly roads!
In my observation only Mahindra Bolero has been reliable, but again it's not a family car in terms of comfort and safety!
Between two, i would still choose Mahindra over TATA till date.
I must say, after your feedback I am really keen on Altroz DCT/DCA .. need to do some research 🤔💭
pahle ki baat alag thi ab tata 21 lakh km chala kr test krte hain
Taki pahle jesi nobat na aye or ek already video upload kiya hai dds ne nexon 2 lakh chal chuki hai
I agree with you. I am concerned about the dct maintenance and how this dct will be after long term usage. Love tata cars❤
I have altrroz manual n driven 78k till date it's working fine till now
2 saalo se Ravi bhai ke videos dekh raha hu..
Aaj bhai saab ne 1st time heavy driving dikhayi ♥️
I got delivery of my nexon today... Very happy 😍
Congratulations 🎉
I was thinking to go for this and was lookign for your review on Altroz DCA but aisa detailed review ni tha but now m happy to watch this. Thank you so much. :)
Excellent Quality Review 👌, Good Video Graphy & Valuable Content 👏.
Recently tata has updated their petrol engine and it is much more refined make a video on that ravi bhai
Bhai Altroz mai ek bahut bari problem hai....Puri gari me ek saal ke baad rusting shuru ho jati hai....5 saal me Puri gari gal kar khatam ho jayegi
Ravi bhai… one suggestion… don’t test like this on a difficult road like this.. it’s not only risky for you but also for the person coming from other end… pls prefer to test in a hilly track or block the road from both ends before testing on a real road for few minutes if possible… I believe these roads are not crowded mostly.. otherwise you are doing a great job.. Good luck 🤞🏻
This year will be massive for tata motors 😍 and 2024-2025 will be made for tata and only tata.
Altroz and puch both card are good but only issue with these both cars is that lock can be open by any one even by children while driving the car. There no perfect locking system
Bilkul sahi baat boli
Dar lagta hai jab bachhe piche baithe hote hai
@@pradeepsinghyadav8210 this only the reason to change my mind and buy another company car
Every car has child lock
This design is implemented in every European cars
Polo also has this
If you want to drive with child simply lock via child lock it will not unlock by child.
@@RahulThakur-nm8bj hey buddy I know but not every time we remember to use child lock, what if we go just few blocks and we dont want to use child lock. I understand but still u may forget sometime
In my opinion if we care about aur child we will always remember it
It's a simple practice which can prevent major mishap
What if you locked the door and central locking got failed you can not easily unlock door from inside but in this case you are always able to open door even in accident because it's mechanically operated
In my opinion this is safety feature suppose your daughter booked a cab and the nasty driver locked the door it can become impossible to open the door and escape from the car whereas if this is according to European car you can always open the door and exit
If buy a car this habit will get developed you should not change your buying decision because this will remain as it is it will not change in the future models.
TATA is improving itself day by day
Watching this video 3rd time in a day... As it's a Combo ( Great Car + Great person)
I HAVE DCA Xz+ same colour , Best car till now .. can i add CNG in DCT ..?
Please reply
I am also planning to add cng in my DCA ..
I dont think it will be sucessful
Thanks Ravi Sir for reviewing Altroz DCA on hill areas, maine kuch din pahle hi aapse puchha bhi tha aapke punch k laddakh tour k video me ki kya Altroz ko Laddakh le jana sahi h, ab mera wo doubt bhi clear ho gya h
Sahi hai bhai balki best kahin se bhi nikal jaegi
I am enjoying my Manual Altroz. Only one and minor problem is power between 1&2 gear.
Ravi : Ground clearance ka koi issue nahi hai isme.
SUVs: Hum job chhod de?
Currently in dalhausie with my altroz dca dark. It’s definitely a head turner. I drove it for 6 hrs with 2 5 to 10 mins of tea break and I’m not feeling tired at all. Only issue I’m facing is tata Kosmo jalandhar’s After sales service. Its pathetic.
DCA matlab konsa type ka automatic hai? Please reply sir
Tiago NRG, delivered on Nov 2022. Oct 2022 VIN number. Driven 8.5k Kms, 2nd service done. Ultra smooth engine and gear box. Brilliant car. Coming from someone who's past daily driver was i20 Active for 2.75lakh kms.
Automatic h kya bhai
Kya AVG h
@@velleyrao6276 Manual. My average speed on highways is around 100kmph and I try to maintain 2000rpm acceleration. Average, In city 14kmpl and on highways around 19-20kmpl, tank to tank.
@DDS As of Jan2023, only Hyundai i10 is BS6 P-II compliant and only its top model i.e. ASTA comes with 6 airbags (which would be mandatory from Oct2023 in India). My Q: Shall automatic gear new car buyers in hatchback segment (Budget: Rs. 8-12L) wait for newer facelifts? What are the expected launches by mid 2023? Thanks in advance.
I am too confused between i10/Aura AMT and Altroz DCA. All please suggest ur inputs.
Believe me my cousin have altoroz ...n I live in hilly region ...very bad pick up and very bad group clearance....pls ...give honest review
Worst car i have driven even my 8 year old grand i10 has better pickup and is more silent even after 120000 km.
I totally agree with the handling part. I own Altroz iTurbo dark and have driven in Himachal twice just for the fun of it. It’s so much fun to drive on mountains and highway both. Solid feel.
Milege kitna de rahi hai city aur highway pr
Abhi mere ko Xuv 300 turbo sport pe ❤️ aa rakha hai.Uska bootspace mere liye manageable hai.On paper bhale hi hatchback jaisa ho lekin samaan usme hatchback se zyada ata ha.💥👍
Aajkal whi chala rha hu dost.... jald aega video
@@DDSravi superb ravi bhai.Aapne meri muh ki baat cheen li 💥👍
Bhaiya gaadi aap chla rhe ho..maja yaha aa rha h😅....Thank You Ravi ji❣️
Everything said in the video is on spot. I am Driving The altroz DCA BS6 Phase 2 variant wherein the NVH levels are also reduced and i took my Car to Hills Last week and crazy performance. No lag , No momentum break and climbing hills like a piece of cake and that is with 4 people and luggage in the car, The gearbox manages the engine perfectly so no stress on the driver and the control and stability at high speeds ( 120 +) is awesome. Like he said the Altroz owners should take their car to hills once to be able to enjoy the drive. the car didn't break its momentum even once in the whole trip. Best Car in this segment.
🙏🇮🇳।। "T" फ़ॉर टाटा मोटर्स:-ट्रको और बसों के निर्माते। 1995 से हम भी गर्विष्ठ टाटा प्रोडक्ट ओनर।।🇮🇳🙏
Ravi bhai punch or altroz me se konsi jyada achhi hai, i am planning to buy a new car
Buy punch for suv feel and more ground clearance and better ride quality
रवि भाई पहाड़ों के लिए सबसे मस्त गाड़ी है altroz.
Specially Automatic
@@DDSravi हां भाई जी।
I am proud owner of altroz ,perfect car for family
Why was this car not launched 2 years back🥲🥲 had bought i20 ivt sports instead of altroz only because of the gear reason, this dca seems soo much fun to drive😍
Excellent review of an excellent car. How would you compare the stability of Altroz with your Freestyle?? Is Tata more stable than Ford??...
The way he is enjoying awesome 😎
Ravi bhai i am planning to buy a car but confused in Tata Tiago and Punch ,need a car for city traffic,pls suggest
Thank you
Never seen ravi enjoying any other car like this
Altroz is out of segment in terms of stability, handling and steering!
Just got one last Friday. XTA. Seems good
Altroz is amazing best steering response, stability, safety , mileage , confidence ❤️❤️❤️❤️
But we want tata improve its panel gaps
I am from Himachal Pradesh and proud owner of Tata altroz . Man this car corner stability control just amazing plus breaking next level . Both of these things boost my confidence in mountains .
# Vocal for local 🇮🇳
Which model? Petrol or diesel??
When will the RDE compliant engine Altroz DCA release ?any updates, also YOY sales of Altroz is dipped by 16%, does it make sense to buy this now, how does it effect re-sale ?, I am 1st time car buyer. Suggestions are appreciated
Instead of this buy punch...
U will get high gc...
And this DCA gearbox is a new one...
We don't know much this is reliable or not...
Recently in team bhp one guy has posted one review that oil is leaking from this DCA gearbox...
U can read the full article thoroughly in team bhp website...
And this DCA is underpowered..
It takes 17 seconds to reach 100...
I am looking to buy a car by end of next year and this will definitely be in my radar. Kudos to you Ravi ji for bringing such great content to us. #MakeinIndia
I am a TATA employee myself and have been watching all in depth review of Ravi and this is right up there. This is a great car and was eagerly waiting for its launch. I had shortlisted few including this one but as soon as I came to know that this one doesn't have hill hold,this was out of my list. I recently bought Magnite CVT which is a great complete package with all necessary features.i think on steep slopes this one would surely roll back as it doesn't have hill assist. Would have bought this one of they had added this one important feature.
Wait fof Altroz Racer
as an altroz owner i cn assure u dat u'll gt d best feel evr... stability is lyk nxt lvl.. awsm car hain..
Ravi bhai you have used Tata Punch as well, so if possible can you please try to create a comparison video for punch vs altroz
Ravi bhai, Aspire petrol 2019 hai. Us se behtar performance/handling hai kya? Agar hai to le lunga altroz. Please batao.
Handling behtar hai. Performance halki si down lgegi but automatic me maja aega
@@DDSravi wow thanks bhai. Le raha hi racer edition pakka ab.
Mere pass diesel xz+ dark edition hai bhai highways par 160-170 chalao koi dikkat nahi hai full maje karati hai aur pani ki Tarah chalti hai fir bhi milage deti hai 😄
Tata may improve their technology but it should also improve their exectives and service experiences of customer
@Young Thug bro I have brezza you won't get any tata car in breeza range with good engine and 4 star saftey
Bhai hum garib honge pr kisi ka mazak nahi banate.
Impressive video shots! 1:20 to 1:36 shot was impressive.
Hollywood movie style shots!
The ground clearance is only 165mm. Did you find any issue in offroad drive or bigger road hump?
GC is 170 mm in this. Not 165
170 mm is decent GC in most situations depending on wheelbase length and suspension tuneup.
In many cars they give more GC but if fully loaded their GC decreases.
Altroz is a good choice.. but I'd pick Punch AMT over this for SUV benefits.
ok
Leg room, boot space is very small. Leg room will be useful for second row passenger with some bags.
I have an Altroz XT petrol Manual, I just love to drive this car on highways. Its steering response & stability is just as good as VW.❤️
I drove 1000km in 12 hours on the highway n believe me Altroz is the love of my life which never disappoints...I own altroz xz na petrol
I want to buy altroz but very confused between dca and iturbo .. turbo is good in power but milage ? Dca good in convenience but no turbo. Please 🙏 help
Pick DCA
@@DDSravi thank you for your valuable reply. Fan of yous never missed any video of yours ..
My first choice was altroz, but had to go with baleno because of the response I got from showroom,they were not even interested in selling their vehicle
Haha
hi Ravi, excellent video.. thanks.... Altroz ground clearance is only 165mm, was looking in this video if you will cover if any issues with such small ground clearance.. however, can you please let me know your views about ground clearance of altroz
Bilkul shi ravi bhai mere bade bhai k pass Altroz hai or mujhe Altroz ki stability, Handling, suspensions or music system itna Zabardast lgaa ki ab me apni car choad kr unki car le jata hu 😄
TATA ALTROZ Next level hai bhai chlane me jo confidence jo feel hai vo kisi i20, baleno waleno me rattii bhr bhi nhii Hai
TATA ALTROZ 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Sir suggest me kwid rxl 1.0 opt or s presso vxi
Secand hand mai 2 se 3 lakh ka bughet me konsi gadi loo
Either from SX4 or Etios.
Ritz also
@@DDSravi Sir how is the stability of liva as compared to Altroz on highway?
I mostly drive my Altroz manual at night.. And I'm very much happy with the headlight.. I most of the times maintain 120kmph.
And yes compared to both I20 and Baleno, this engine is dull but if u learn downshifting u will have no complaints from the engine.
Very much satisfied I'm.
Mine is xe plus
Interior plastic especially on door handles makes scratchy noise
@@rajeshv6274 So sorry to hear that.. I actually haven't face this problem yet. Contact SC
Is this a car I should consider in 2024. Should I go for a turbo or non turbo. FYI this will be my first car and I am a novice driver. Please help and guide
I’m Altroz XZ+ dark edition diesel owner, car is awesome. Stability, mileage, performance, build quality, I feel auto dimming IRVM should be provided it helps in night driving. Auto dimming IRVM should be considered as safety feature instead of luxury feature.
Only ground clearance is stopping me to purchase this car. Ravi Bhai is the ground clearance of the car enough with 4 members on board
Yes...We were 3 onboard with full of luggage and our equipments
Punch iss se jyada behtar hai.
@@shreedhartend3878 ground clearance ke liye, otherwise altroz is far better than punch in stability, space, boot space, premium ness etc...
Altroz must add a new variant like tiago nrg in term of ground clearance only..where lamborghini can add ground clearance then tata can easily add
Ground clearance of altroz is same as Swift. I don't think Swift has issues regarding ground clearance.
I am a proud owner of XZ petrol (Na) what all Ravi Bhai said is very true.
In terms of ride quality, steering response, suspension, highway stability and confidence.
Thank you Ravi Bhai for the content.
Keep up the good work.
Bhai paisa to nhi hai per tata ki gadi lene ka dil or desh ki khud ki gadi hai to or jada dill upar se sir ratan tata ji ki gadi hai to dil dimag sub karta hai bus thoda kama kama kar seving kar raha ho upar wale ne caha to le lege bus jo jo cmnt kar raha hai like kar do bhai 😅
Thank you for this review sir. I own Altroz DCA. Its still new and We are also nee drivers. But I'm enjoying driving this car.
After watching this video I also went to test drive this in Chandigarh but came back very disappointed - not with the car but with the agency & their sales person. She had 0 knowledge about the product or its various trims or how many different interior colours were on offer. The one I drove had an all black interior and it felt suffocating. The car infotainment calendar was set in 2018 - small things which really put me off completely.
The sales person told me not to expect mileage beyond 12-13 in city.
Hey Ravi. Normally don't comment but ye video ki production quality is just fantastic. Isko dekh kar wo puraane din yad aa gaye jab nayi Tigor ka tyre phatt gya tha. Tab se lakar aaj tak apki journey me bohot acha laga aap ke saath. Very happy to see you rise up and stand among the best.
Please keep going, love your content, love your candor, and love the desi-ness in DDS.
-A.
Edit: Aree baap re baap; comment karne ke 2 min bad Nano bhi yaad aa gayi shittt man mai aur mere papa sath me baith ke dekha karte the. Aaj bhi dekhte hain. 😀
R V going to get racer edition with Diesel engine as well?
I have Altroz Manual, This is my first car and I have no experience of driving other cars as well. After getting this video It seems I made a right choice, I got 26 Avg in MID.
Diesel or petrol
It is very near to take place of POLO GT....🔥🔥
Racer edition 🔥🔥🔥
भेड़चाल से अलग कार😍😍👌
hmmm
Sir same esa review Nexon k sth m bhi milega kya ??
I myself is a tata owner..nexon..but ye video is praising altroz a lot
Rattling truck is what I like to say. Tata really need to focus on engine refinement, NVH levels, fit n finish, overall engine and electronics reliability.
Bhai vo sb problem April k baad dur ho jayegi tumhari
Have clocked over 1.2L kms in my Manza and nothing was changed except tires and battery. Car is a cream to drive and plastic quality is better than some of the mid-size SUVs found today.
Tata❣️
Maine highway pe 130+ me chlai,
Bahut stable hai. Full confidence ata h drive krte time
12:15 Agreed , this pillar is a big issue. Same with my nexon(facelift 2024)
Don't buy. Too much engine noise
Tata Fan Boy 😁🤣
Sir punch engine me update hua h kuch . Refinement se related 2023 model me
Is it worth to buy extended warranty for altroz dca bs6 phase 2 ?