Dear Petra, thank you for sharing your brilliant remark on the silence by Meghan after Harry's book release. I remember Meghan praised Harry publicly just once as "the best husband in the whole wide world." It was shortly after they married. I looked up to the Queen Elizabeth II during her reign. I believe the Queen greatly influenced Great Britain in a positive way especially regarding women's rights. However, I would prefer to guard sheep in the coldest village of Siberia than marry into the Royal Family.
I believe that Harry has been devalued by his father, brother, sister-in-law, step-mother & his birth order. Now, Harry is simply devaluing himself by publicly complaining & explaining. Harry & Meghan have co-existed in an ever changing shared fantasy and they have lost respect and any chance for redemption by leaving their royal duties behind. They can't have it both ways. Diana did not have it easy either. Harry might be confusing his mother with his wife as well. Tragedy, CPTSD, entitlement, stages of narcissism & discard is always happening amongst that family, while their public lovebombs away...
I am from America and I see through Harry's wife. I think looking at even the late night comedians, a lot of people are tired of them and they way they complain and smear their families. They are rich, and if they were so in love they wouldn't be doing this. People in love love back. Also the mouth speaks what the heart is full of. They are full of unjustified rage and envy. Also know they pay people to write comments against people who expose them or have flying monkeys who know they are bad and like it.
I don't give two hoots about H&M, but I'm strongly against keeping secrets about family dysfunction. Secret keeping is one of the reasons we get C-PTSD. That said, there's a big difference between a trauma survivor and a sniveling, rich, spoiled brat.
That's a very interesting topic to discuss. I've actually been in a similar situation. At first the narcissist showed me a lot of support and was always on my side, then she dragged me into a conflict with a third person (she used manipulations and rumours, I wasn't mature enough to spot it), and then she just stepped aside so it looked like I was the one who started it while she remained silent. I remember how devastated I felt. So, yeah. It does ring a bell to me.
Narcs silently create drama and sit back and wait for things to unfold. They throw rocks and hide their hands. If you are intuitive, you can pick up on their behavior and hidden agenda without them uttering a word
I have been reading Harry's book. He speaks very little about his family. But he does slam the media for writing lies about him since he was a teenager, thus making his life difficult and at times miserable.
First of all thank you for this video. I appreciate your work. Respectfully, can we look at Meghan as showing a dignified front by being silent as well. Clearly there is nothing that she can do right in a huge percentage of the public's eyes. Everything she does gets criticized. If Meghan speaks out to support her husband it's going to be wrong. If she remains silent it's wrong. Perhaps they have an agreement between the two of them that she remains silent. I too, have admired the royal family for years but it is quite possible that they may have some ugly truths that they need to be addressed like so many of us. Ignoring the truth will not fix it. As in many families, as long as you "cooperate" and act like it never happened we will get along just fine. As soon as someone chooses to bring up the "thing" that we don't talk about then you're no longer part of the family. Also, sometimes it takes someone speaking out to bring change. I have not read the book nor am I disagreeing with your views I simply want to add different perspective. Thanks.
Yes but speaking up and speaking out is done directly to the abusive party or to those who you need to protect you….not to the whole world. It’s mean spirited. If he was doing this for the greater good, he would’ve done it for free.
@@carmelita.8860 Thank you for sharing your views. I'm not objecting against what was said in the video or with what you are saying. I just wanted to look at it from another angle. The problem is we've only heard one side of the story. We don't know how much was discussed or addressed behind closed doors. How many times has Harry tried to reach out to the royals? Did he try to reach out to the royals? I'm sure there has been a great deal of discussion between Harry and his family as well as between Harry and Meghan that we don't know about. We just don't know. My preference would be to discuss matters privately. However, this is not me. I'm just saying maybe this was the only way he felt he would be heard. Was it the best way? Maybe not. I'm not one to judge. Honestly, I believe issues ran deep between Harry and his family before Meghan ever came into the picture. Again, this is simply me speculating.
@@carmelita.8860 That he didn't do it for free doesn't discredit any of the things he's shared. He needs money too ,he has two kids to look after and it's not as if he can toss burgers at McDonalds when his inheritance runs out. I would love to write the most scathing book about the abusive people in my family and include every sordid detail for the whole world to read because why should such people get away with it without any accountability whatsoever ? Toxic people or people who buy into toxic family dynamics always seem to enjoy respectability in society whereas the victims are further gaslighted and shamed for sharing what happened to them. I'm glad he's able to make money out of it. At least there's that because there wouldn't be any accountability from his father who drove his mother up the wall before her tragic death
Interesting concept. I believe, while I do feel that both of them are immature, and yes, Megan is the influencer with Harry, that she also is being coached and does as she is being told. Having said that, they get exactly what they want: publicity. Their behavior is immature and disrespectful. Ridiculous! I’m a 64yr old German living in California.
Wow... I never saw it from this perspective. Here in America, Harry is generally loved and is praised for standing up to the royal family and speaking out. Meghan is well liked here, too. The royal family is not really liked in the US. I guess we don't see it from the other side. I really hope Meghan is not a narc and Harry is not being abused. We really like Harry.
I've seen a lot of hate for her from Americans. What irritates me about this whole thing is how whether or not she's a narc overshadows his narration of his own experiences. Everyone's focused on her but what about him ? I have no real interest in the royals but Diana intrigued me and lately I watched some interviews of Harry. He comes across as someone who is really trying hard to fix a dysfunctional situation with his family and that makes him quite relatable.
Do all Narcissistic relationships go through the value, devalue, discard (poss hoover) phase? I ask others here because the opinion seems a bit divided. Some say yes and others say no. Or you always get devalued/discarded but maybe not in an obvious way (i.e you see that person everyday then total radio silence for a fortnight/months, then they just show back up with no explanation) That was a "mini" discard. On the subject of the News. I no longer watch it, I let others be my filter on that stuff now. Never thought too much of the royal family, but then when I was a child (after Diana's death) the love for them had really turned to dislike and distrust so here most don't actually like them anymore. I often think they are no different from any other family and just as dysfunctional. Another great video, Petra!
Most relationships be it parter, family, friends etc do through the normal cycle. But some relationships go in a continuous loop over and over (Ideal, Devalue, Discard) until there is a final discard. But a discard is never a discard just a shelfing.
I love your content but I have to disagree with you here. I don't know if it's appropriate to say this without reading the book. This idea that he is being brainwashed infantalises him. She may or may not be narcissistic , but the way his criticism of the rest of his family and his narration of his own experiences is dismissed as ideas planted by her triggers me, as someone who has been through narcissistic abuse from toxic family members. I was dismissed the same way when I raised concerns. If she's silent it's probably because of just this- that she'd be accused of ghost writing the book. I know very little about her and have little interest in her but I can see why she's silent. She can't win. If she speaks she's be bashed if she doesn't something is fishy. Now about the Royals ,I'm afraid you're biased. It wouldn't be a stretch to say the royal family is an institution with a legacy of much toxicity and dysfunction. Regardless of that if Harry feels the way he does about things his revelations shouldn't be seen as a hysterical outburst by a puppet. Theirs could be a dignified silence or a simple refusal to be accountable. They drove Diana crazy with the toxicity mind games and gaslighting . Now they're doing the same to her son, most through the press by proxy.
Meghan has had enough abuse, now it’s Harry’s turn. Why would she want to get embroiled in the fallout from his stupid book as well? She’s a woman. Maybe not a very nice one, I don’t even know, but being a woman allows for a million times the abuse that a man would ever endure. Let him deal with his own crappy book.
Wow. Although I like you and your content, I have to disagree with you. It's a do or don't. Meagan can't win either way. Maybe she's silent because if she speaks something negative is said about her. If she doesn't speak now she's too quiet and working behind the scenes to convince her husband. You just invalidated Harry in my opinion. WOW 🤔
Dear Petra, thank you for sharing your brilliant remark on the silence by Meghan after Harry's book release. I remember Meghan praised Harry publicly just once as "the best husband in the whole wide world." It was shortly after they married. I looked up to the Queen Elizabeth II during her reign. I believe the Queen greatly influenced Great Britain in a positive way especially regarding women's rights. However, I would prefer to guard sheep in the coldest village of Siberia than marry into the Royal Family.
I believe that Harry has been devalued by his father, brother, sister-in-law, step-mother & his birth order. Now, Harry is simply devaluing himself by publicly complaining & explaining.
Harry & Meghan have co-existed in an ever changing shared fantasy and they have lost respect and any chance for redemption by leaving their royal duties behind. They can't have it both ways. Diana did not have it easy either. Harry might be confusing his mother with his wife as well. Tragedy, CPTSD, entitlement, stages of narcissism & discard is always happening amongst that family, while their public lovebombs away...
I am from America and I see through Harry's wife. I think looking at even the late night comedians, a lot of people are tired of them and they way they complain and smear their families. They are rich, and if they were so in love they wouldn't be doing this. People in love love back. Also the mouth speaks what the heart is full of. They are full of unjustified rage and envy. Also know they pay people to write comments against people who expose them or have flying monkeys who know they are bad and like it.
I think you were really gentle on this subject. I feel very strongly on it. I see a bad ending when the discard comes. Love your videos. Good topic.
Keep the faith Petra and thanks for sharing and caring
I don't really pay attention to celebrity stuff, but I do pay attention to you, Petra. Thanks for your thoughtful analysis. It makes a lot of sense.
Thank you for this video. It makes so much sense. Your videos help me so much ❤️
I don't give two hoots about H&M, but I'm strongly against keeping secrets about family dysfunction. Secret keeping is one of the reasons we get C-PTSD. That said, there's a big difference between a trauma survivor and a sniveling, rich, spoiled brat.
That's a very interesting topic to discuss. I've actually been in a similar situation. At first the narcissist showed me a lot of support and was always on my side, then she dragged me into a conflict with a third person (she used manipulations and rumours, I wasn't mature enough to spot it), and then she just stepped aside so it looked like I was the one who started it while she remained silent. I remember how devastated I felt. So, yeah. It does ring a bell to me.
Narcs silently create drama and sit back and wait for things to unfold. They throw rocks and hide their hands. If you are intuitive, you can pick up on their behavior and hidden agenda without them uttering a word
This is fantastic. Consider changing the title of this to more of an analysis h&m because I think people would love to hear this.
Their life is sad.
Sad's not the word!!
I have been reading Harry's book. He speaks very little about his family. But he does slam the media for writing lies about him since he was a teenager, thus making his life difficult and at times miserable.
We are all outside looking in.
Very interesting. I agree with you. I appreciate your thoughtful analysis.
Wow never thought about it
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I haven't had an interest in this subject, but the observations here are interesting.
First of all thank you for this video. I appreciate your work. Respectfully, can we look at Meghan as showing a dignified front by being silent as well. Clearly there is nothing that she can do right in a huge percentage of the public's eyes. Everything she does gets criticized. If Meghan speaks out to support her husband it's going to be wrong. If she remains silent it's wrong. Perhaps they have an agreement between the two of them that she remains silent. I too, have admired the royal family for years but it is quite possible that they may have some ugly truths that they need to be addressed like so many of us. Ignoring the truth will not fix it. As in many families, as long as you "cooperate" and act like it never happened we will get along just fine. As soon as someone chooses to bring up the "thing" that we don't talk about then you're no longer part of the family. Also, sometimes it takes someone speaking out to bring change. I have not read the book nor am I disagreeing with your views I simply want to add different perspective. Thanks.
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Yes but speaking up and speaking out is done directly to the abusive party or to those who you need to protect you….not to the whole world. It’s mean spirited. If he was doing this for the greater good, he would’ve done it for free.
@@carmelita.8860 Thank you for sharing your views. I'm not objecting against what was said in the video or with what you are saying. I just wanted to look at it from another angle. The problem is we've only heard one side of the story. We don't know how much was discussed or addressed behind closed doors. How many times has Harry tried to reach out to the royals? Did he try to reach out to the royals? I'm sure there has been a great deal of discussion between Harry and his family as well as between Harry and Meghan that we don't know about. We just don't know. My preference would be to discuss matters privately. However, this is not me. I'm just saying maybe this was the only way he felt he would be heard. Was it the best way? Maybe not. I'm not one to judge. Honestly, I believe issues ran deep between Harry and his family before Meghan ever came into the picture. Again, this is simply me speculating.
@@carmelita.8860 That he didn't do it for free doesn't discredit any of the things he's shared. He needs money too ,he has two kids to look after and it's not as if he can toss burgers at McDonalds when his inheritance runs out. I would love to write the most scathing book about the abusive people in my family and include every sordid detail for the whole world to read because why should such people get away with it without any accountability whatsoever ? Toxic people or people who buy into toxic family dynamics always seem to enjoy respectability in society whereas the victims are further gaslighted and shamed for sharing what happened to them. I'm glad he's able to make money out of it. At least there's that because there wouldn't be any accountability from his father who drove his mother up the wall before her tragic death
Interesting concept. I believe, while I do feel that both of them are immature, and yes, Megan is the influencer with Harry, that she also is being coached and does as she is being told.
Having said that, they get exactly what they want: publicity. Their behavior is immature and disrespectful. Ridiculous!
I’m a 64yr old German living in California.
Wow... I never saw it from this perspective. Here in America, Harry is generally loved and is praised for standing up to the royal family and speaking out. Meghan is well liked here, too. The royal family is not really liked in the US. I guess we don't see it from the other side. I really hope Meghan is not a narc and Harry is not being abused. We really like Harry.
I've seen a lot of hate for her from Americans. What irritates me about this whole thing is how whether or not she's a narc overshadows his narration of his own experiences. Everyone's focused on her but what about him ? I have no real interest in the royals but Diana intrigued me and lately I watched some interviews of Harry. He comes across as someone who is really trying hard to fix a dysfunctional situation with his family and that makes him quite relatable.
Yes I feel this way as an American. I don't understand the anti Meghan views, but maybe I am missing something?
Do all Narcissistic relationships go through the value, devalue, discard (poss hoover) phase? I ask others here because the opinion seems a bit divided. Some say yes and others say no. Or you always get devalued/discarded but maybe not in an obvious way (i.e you see that person everyday then total radio silence for a fortnight/months, then they just show back up with no explanation) That was a "mini" discard.
On the subject of the News. I no longer watch it, I let others be my filter on that stuff now. Never thought too much of the royal family, but then when I was a child (after Diana's death) the love for them had really turned to dislike and distrust so here most don't actually like them anymore. I often think they are no different from any other family and just as dysfunctional.
Another great video, Petra!
Most relationships be it parter, family, friends etc do through the normal cycle. But some relationships go in a continuous loop over and over (Ideal, Devalue, Discard) until there is a final discard. But a discard is never a discard just a shelfing.
I love your content but I have to disagree with you here. I don't know if it's appropriate to say this without reading the book. This idea that he is being brainwashed infantalises him. She may or may not be narcissistic , but the way his criticism of the rest of his family and his narration of his own experiences is dismissed as ideas planted by her triggers me, as someone who has been through narcissistic abuse from toxic family members. I was dismissed the same way when I raised concerns. If she's silent it's probably because of just this- that she'd be accused of ghost writing the book. I know very little about her and have little interest in her but I can see why she's silent. She can't win. If she speaks she's be bashed if she doesn't something is fishy. Now about the Royals ,I'm afraid you're biased. It wouldn't be a stretch to say the royal family is an institution with a legacy of much toxicity and dysfunction. Regardless of that if Harry feels the way he does about things his revelations shouldn't be seen as a hysterical outburst by a puppet. Theirs could be a dignified silence or a simple refusal to be accountable. They drove Diana crazy with the toxicity mind games and gaslighting . Now they're doing the same to her son, most through the press by proxy.
Thanks.
Meghan has had enough abuse, now it’s Harry’s turn. Why would she want to get embroiled in the fallout from his stupid book as well? She’s a woman. Maybe not a very nice one, I don’t even know, but being a woman allows for a million times the abuse that a man would ever endure. Let him deal with his own crappy book.
Wow. Although I like you and your content, I have to disagree with you. It's a do or don't. Meagan can't win either way. Maybe she's silent because if she speaks something negative is said about her. If she doesn't speak now she's too quiet and working behind the scenes to convince her husband. You just invalidated Harry in my opinion. WOW 🤔